[00:00] <Bashing-om> Keitaro: And how old is this tutorial you are following ? .. I Assure you that with optimus the better result is with the proprietary driver and nvidia-prime to control the graphos's sets .
[00:01] <amnix> inerti4: how?
[00:02] <Bashing-om> Keitaro: The "supported products" tab -> GeForce GTX 950M, GeForce 945M, GeForce 940MX, ......
[00:02] <inerti4> amnix: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[00:03] <amnix> inerti4: should there be anyting inside /boot/efi ?
[00:03] <amnix> inerti4: that folder is empty
[00:04] <Keitaro> oki Bashing-om
[00:04] <Keitaro> sorry i will do that
[00:05] <Bashing-om> Keitaro: Much preferable to purge what is now installed .. and we do have a Trusted/tested PPA to install new version drivers !
[00:05] <Keitaro> Bashing-om,  i still have a question why during the install it said that it can't configure in secure boot mode and ask a password ?
[00:06] <Keitaro> ye^i will uninstall those drivers and install the new one
[00:06] <Bashing-om> Keitaro: I would hazard a guess at DKMS. in that 331 has no support for it .
[00:06] <nacc> inerti4: that seems really weird
[00:07] <Keitaro> oki
[00:07] <Bashing-om> Keitaro: Do you have the PPA .. and are you comfortable working with this PPA to install the 367 version driver ?
[00:07] <Jack> hello
[00:07] <Keitaro> i install with the ppa mode or by the link you gave to me ?
[00:07] <Keitaro> euh ppa ?
[00:08] <Keitaro> what is that  ? i have to check tutorial first
[00:08] <Bashing-om> !ppa | Keitaro
[00:09] <Keitaro> oki thx
[00:10] <Bashing-om> Keitaro: Ya want to fix this quick . or take the learning process to understand ?
[00:10] <Keitaro> so official driver on the is better than the ppa who is third party package ?
[00:10] <Keitaro> oh i can read ppa and learn to
[00:12] <Bashing-om> Keitaro: Our trusted PPA : https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa for the driver .
[00:12] <Keitaro> thx
[00:16] <DexterF> hi
[00:17] <DexterF> old nvidia 9500GT, want to use it on 15.04 for video accel. nouveau wont cut it. cannot upgrade at the moment. which nvidia driver can I use?
[00:17] <DexterF> 304 and 340 won't load
[00:19] <Bashing-om> DexterF: 340 version per: http://www.nvidia.com/object/IO_32667.html .
[00:21] <DexterF> Bashing-om, thanks, that's the one I got installed now. any idea why it fails to load?
[00:23] <Bashing-om> Well, the log file /var/log/Xorg.0.log will show if the driver built . If so maybe issues in the GUI config ??
[00:24] <Bashing-om> DexterF: Also .. 15.04 is long dead. try a supported release .
[00:28] <modp> Got a Logitech C170 that's not working properly in cheese in Ubuntu 16.04. Upon executing cheese, the webcam light comes on for a second, then goes off and the CLI says Failed to allocate buffer.
[00:45] <Keitaro> Bashing-om, i did sudo add-apt-repository ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa and update my list
[00:45] <Keitaro> what package should i install ?
[00:46] <Bashing-om> Keitaro: ' sudo apt-get install nvidia-367 nvidia-prime ' . You did purge the old driver. yes ?
[00:48] <Keitaro> oki thx
[00:48] <Keitaro> yep
[00:48] <Keitaro> i did sudo ap-get remove --purge nvidia*
[00:48] <Keitaro> i hoped that was the good command xD
[00:49] <Bashing-om> Keitaro: Yeah .. should workie great .
[00:49] <Bashing-om> Keitaro: OH ! Ya want to remove the old config file also !
[00:51] <energizer> Whenever I try to apt install something, it says the packges cannot be authenticated
[00:51] <Keitaro> Bashing-om, which config file ?
[00:52] <Keitaro> purge remove the config file right ?
[00:52] <Bashing-om> Keitaro: " /etc/X11/xorg.conf " .
[00:53] <Bashing-om> Jellyg00se: ' sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf ' . it is just a single file .
[00:53] <Keitaro> ok i will do a rm on it
[00:53] <Bashing-om> Keitaro: ^^ apologies Jellyg00se .
[00:53] <Keitaro> sorry for that ^^
[00:54] <jhorsfall41> hello
[00:55] <polarbear> hello
[00:58] <Keitaro> Bashing-om, there is no 367.44 version of nvidia on the repository ?
[00:59] <loganlee> hello
[00:59] <polarbear> hello
[01:00] <noslin> hello
[01:00] <loganlee> i replaced win10 on my $300 laptop with ubuntu 16.4
[01:00] <loganlee> so far works ok
[01:00] <polarbear> everything working? i found better support for hardware in 16.04 than 14.04 for me anyway
[01:01] <loganlee> polarbear, everything works but i had to tweak a grub for bay trail cpu
[01:02] <polarbear> oh ok u did a clean install or dual boot?
[01:02] <loganlee> polarbear, clean install
[01:03] <Bashing-om> Keitaro: What release are you running ?? I will verify .
[01:03] <polarbear> yer me too replaced my hdd with a ssd on my hp sleekbook, after running dual boot on factory hdd, never looking back, now i can use the 1tb hdd that came out of the laptop in my ps4 :)
[01:05] <polarbear> loganlee pm?
[01:06] <loganlee> why?
[01:06] <polarbear> oh nvm u from the village same loganlee?
[01:07] <loganlee> polarbear, oh shit yeh
[01:07] <loganlee> polarbear, i thought u looked familiar
[01:07] <Keitaro> Bashing-om, i run the last ont MTS 16.04
[01:07] <Keitaro> LTS
[01:07] <Keitaro> and shoud i need to do sudo apt-get install vdpau-va-driver for the accelerate GPU ?
[01:07] <polarbear> yer ubuntu is good for a comp all u have to do is emails and webbrowsing very happy with it
[01:08] <Bashing-om> Keitaro: The driver is there " nvidia-graphics-drivers-367367.44-0ubuntu0~gpu16.04.1 " .
[01:09] <polarbear> i regret buying win10, only use it on the desktop for a few games but rarely use it
[01:10] <Keitaro> Bashing-om, this package is better the nvidia-367 ?
[01:11] <Bashing-om> Keitaro: Well, it is what nVidia recommends . Better many times is subjective . limited vdpau decoding support I think is a thing of the past . Installing the driver should be all that is needed .
[01:12] <Keitaro> oki
[01:12] <polarbear> anyone got any ubuntu security tips? for webbrowsing and secure the computer in general?
[01:13] <Keitaro> but your package nvidia-graphics-drivers-367367.44-0ubuntu0~gpu16.04.1 works only for that version of ubuntu ? if i upgrade update by exemple i have to reinstall a different package ?
[01:14] <Keitaro> Bashing-om, i still have the same problem with my login loopup
[01:14] <Keitaro> with the package nvidia-367
[01:15] <Bashing-om> Keitaro: Nope, that is the great thing about installing from PPA rather than from nVidia direct . The PPA driver will be included for any upgrades ( mayne not a Telease-upgrade ) .
[01:16] <Keitaro> what should i do resolve my loopup with my login menu
[01:16] <Keitaro> i can only use the tty atm
[01:16] <Bashing-om> Keitaro: Been sudo'n where you should not have ? And now 'root' owns your home ? .. what returns ' ls -al .Xauthority ; ls -al .ICEauthority ' ?
[01:17] <Keitaro> i thin i did the sudo apt-get install in the tty
[01:17] <Keitaro> it is bad ?
[01:18] <bazhang> Keitaro, please run the command and give the results
[01:18] <Bashing-om> Keitaro: No.. that way is the proper way .. that is for us old timmers . I always prefer the CLI .
[01:20] <loganlee> what is this about ubuntu running on windows 10?
[01:20] <bazhang> !ubuwin
[01:20] <ritztech> anyone with Vmware if we add from 200GB to like 210GB in client and im on a xfs_growfs is that it
[01:20] <Keitaro> Bashing-om, you want to know the permission ?
[01:20] <ritztech> i have XFS
[01:20] <bazhang> please see the channel above loganlee
[01:21] <ritztech> but im not seeing in fdisk -l that it took the extra space from VM
[01:21] <Keitaro> it said -rw-------------
[01:21] <Keitaro> for both of them
[01:21] <loganlee> bazhang, thx
[01:21] <Bashing-om> Keitaro: Authorization verification is that next logical step .
[01:21] <Keitaro> ah ?
[01:22] <Keitaro> what sould i configure ?
[01:23] <Bashing-om> Keitaro: Need to know who owns the files and what group . "ls -al .Xauthority is a one linner and can thus be passed here in the channel .
[01:24] <Keitaro> owner and group is the same
[01:25] <Keitaro> i have only one linux account
[01:25] <Keitaro> the account that i use to install ubuntu
[01:26] <Bashing-om> Keitaro: "< Keitaro> owner and group is the same" .. and is this same the same as your username that you have on this system ?
[01:27] <Keitaro> Bashing-om, yes of course
[01:27] <Keitaro> the same name that i enter when i install ubuntu
[01:29] <Keitaro> it is the nickname of my account but the real name that appear in the login windows is my realname that is affiliate to the nick
[01:30] <Bashing-om> Keitaro: Good .. then next we look and see if the driver did build . There is a log file for that . ' cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | nc termbin.com 9999 ' the result is a URL back in terminal, pass that link back here and we have read of that log file .
[01:31] <el_sinistro> where are my fans?
[01:34] <Keitaro> termbin.com/594o
[01:35] <Keitaro> that was the url Bashing-om
[01:35] <Bashing-om> Keitaro: Reading . I will be a while .
[01:35] <Keitaro> oki thx
[01:36] <polarbear> anyone know of good documentation on how to remote view cctv thats linked to the internet? in ubuntu 16.04?
[01:38] <Bashing-om> Keitaro: Well ,, Right off . is the boot parameter ' nomoeset" that you have set . That parameter defeats Kernel Mode Setting . What results now when you remove 'nomodeset' and reboot the machine ?
[01:39] <Keitaro> ok i check that
[01:39] <loganlee> correction nomodeset
[01:40] <energizer> Is it ok to mount my second internal hard drive as /seconddrive
[01:40] <loganlee> sure
[01:41] <energizer> loganlee: is somewhere else preferred
[01:41] <loganlee> energizer, maybe /mnt/seconddrive
[01:41] <OerHeks> polarbear, 'cctv liked to the internet'.. that would be just a browser?
[01:41] <rachelr> I am trying to connect to my MongoDB server remotely through port 27017 of my Ubuntu Server...netstat is showing it is only listening for that port on the local host IP of my ubuntu server.  Does anyone know how I update this so that it will listen on any IP for that port?
[01:43] <Keitaro> wow it works
[01:43] <Keitaro> thx a lot Bashing-om
[01:43] <Bashing-om> Keitaro: Hey hey .. We, do good work , no ?
[01:44] <Keitaro> now i am in 1920*1080 thx :)
[01:44] <Keitaro> yep you do a great work i only retype the command ^^
[01:45] <Keitaro> and is it true (because the url of french documentation is pretty old) for the optimus we have to switch between the graphic card and the intel GPU manually ?
[01:45] <Bashing-om> Keitaro: Major thanks go to all the hard work of nVidia and our PPA composers . I just held your hand .
[01:46] <Bashing-om> Keitaro: no ! .. that is the function of nvidia-prime .
[01:47] <Keitaro> oh oki it is automaticly
[01:47] <Keitaro> thx for all man :)
[01:48] <Keitaro> another question do we need a lot of skils or aknowledge to help ubuntu project in the source codes ?
[01:48] <el_sinistro> can anyone explain whats the buzz Im recently perceiving about "bacon"???
[01:49] <Keitaro> i mean i will enter in engineer school (computer science ) this september
[01:49] <Keitaro> so i am thinkin if it is possible to participate or it is very hard ?
[01:50] <el_sinistro> Keitaro, r u afraid?
[01:50] <el_sinistro> Keitaro, r u fears?...
[01:50] <Keitaro> a little
[01:50] <Bashing-om> Keitaro: Help .. we can use all we can get in what ever capacity you are able to offer . http://cheesehead-techblog.blogspot.com/2015/10/point-new-participants-to-find-task.html .
[01:50] <el_sinistro> Keitaro, have any background?
[01:50] <Keitaro> i am not really skill even if i know to code a little :x
[01:51] <Keitaro> oki i will read that
[01:51] <bazhang> Keitaro, el_sinistro please take the chit chat elsewhere
[01:51] <el_sinistro> Keitaro, I got in school withou knowing to switch the box on!!!!
[01:51] <el_sinistro> hey bazhang !
[01:51] <bazhang> !ot | el_sinistro
[01:52] <Keitaro> to say i have a master of science in physics but in september i will be in ingeneer school
[01:52] <bazhang> this is support only, thanks
[01:52] <Keitaro> but the speciality that i chose is not really software engineering i took securtiy system
[01:52] <el_sinistro> Keitaro, bazhang asked us to not chat this here
[01:52] <bazhang> Keitaro, thats you too
[01:52] <Keitaro> even i have some programming course but less than software engineering speciality
[01:53] <bazhang> #ubuntu-offtopic  Keitaro
[01:53] <Keitaro> oki sorry
[01:54] <Keitaro> i go wash my dishes and i back in a couple of minutes
[01:54] <Keitaro> thx again Bashing-om  for your help
[02:00] <Bashing-om> Keitaro: No problem, help is what we do .. Glad to offer help .
[02:00] <gio> hi
[02:00] <el_sinistro> yo Bashing-om
[02:01] <Bashing-om> el_sinistro: You rang ?
[02:01] <mario3154> would it be possible for someone to give me a small basic rundown on proper irc chat commands and manners
[02:01] <el_sinistro> nope
[02:02] <mario3154> k
[02:02] <OerHeks> !coc
[02:02] <OerHeks> basicly: keep it family friendly :-)
[02:10] <polarbear> anyone with ubuntu security tips on securing it better?
[02:12] <loganlee> bakayaro
[02:13] <polarbear> yer nvm i have easier methods
[02:16] <jmadero> hi all - I'm getting miserable rsync speeds over CIFS from local to remote machine
[02:16] <jmadero> also sporadic long pauses (currently been stuck at 0% for.....15 minutes)
[02:21] <l33n>  trying to route all traffic through vpn server, and the a wiki says make sure to update /etc/ufw/before.rules with -A POSTROUTING -s 10.8.0.0/24 -o eth0 -j MASQUERADE but to change the ip to the one specified in openvpn/server.conf, but my config files in /etc/openvpn with pia for the regional servers do not have that information, should I be looking in the /etc/openvpn/update-resolv-conf.sh script for that information
[02:32] <slime_> hello
[02:48] <jmadero> hi all - two linux machines seeing 1/8th the wifi speeds as Android and Windows (7 and 10) - Ubuntu 14.04
[02:57] <antipsychiatry> Hello! How u protect ubuntu users against MIND READING technology used by bastards secret service
[03:08] <lasindi> Hi all, I'd like to be able to "ping6 ipv6.google.com" (right now I get "Network is unreachable"). I understand I'm supposed to modprobe ipv6, but this doesn't seem to actually load an ipv6 module. (When I lsmod, there are some modules with ipv6 in the name but not sure those are what I need.) Any ideas?
[03:09] <antipsychiatry> Hi
[03:09] <eaglef00t> lasindi: Is your router passing IP6?
[03:10] <antipsychiatry> How can protect ubuntu users against technology: mind reading ....used by these secret service bastards????
[03:11] <UnTr3> SSX Tricky
[03:11] <lasindi> eaglef00t, I think so ... (I'm sorry I know next to nothing about ipv6.) When I look it gives me an "IPv6 Status" page with various information
[03:12] <lasindi> I'm not sure if there's a key thing in there that indicates whether or not it is "passing IP6"
[03:13] <Phanes> ha, upgrade to Xenial was flawless on this 14.04 EC2 instance in AWS guys.  Well done!
[03:13] <jane_> I've been using a Live system and I'd like to install. If I do, how do I include the stuff I've set up in the live system to be included with the installed system?
[03:14] <Phanes> jane_, you're going to spend 4 hours of work to save 2 hours of work on a live system?
[03:15] <lasindi> eaglef00t, It has the following info, for example:
[03:15] <lasindi> IPv6 Address Assign Type:	
[03:15] <lasindi> SLAAC
[03:15] <lasindi> IPv6 Address:	
[03:15] <lasindi> ::
[03:15] <lasindi> Link-local Address:	
[03:15] <jane_> Phanes: Nah. If it's non-trivial I'll just redo the work.
[03:16] <eaglef00t> lasindi: Did your try pinging your router with ping6?
[03:16] <Phanes> he can't respond because someone is obnoxious and thoughtless with their bot
[03:16] <jane_> He's muted for the moment
[03:17] <lasindi> eaglef00t, If I do "ping6 -I eth0 fe80::c6e9:84ff:fe9f:9802" it works
[03:17] <lasindi> My understanding is a "link-local" address is specific to the link, i.e. from my computer to the router
[03:17] <lasindi> Don't know if that's correct
[03:17] <jane_> I had an issue with Windows suddenly not allowing local logons... don't even ask me how. Turns out I'm completely happy with Ubuntu for everything I was doing on Windows.
[03:17] <lotuspsychje> !yay | jane_
[03:18] <nIRV_> greetings; is there a way to know what configuration flags have been used to compile the Qt5 library in ubuntu's repository?
[03:18] <jane_> I've used Linux systems a lot in the past but not for probably over a year.
[03:18] <jane_> No real reason for the change.
[03:18] <jane_> (from using them to not using them)
[03:20] <lasindi> eaglef00t, Sorry, I think I was muted because I accidentally flooded the channel (sorry about that as well)
[03:20] <lasindi> If I do "ping6 -I eth0 fe80::c6e9:84ff:fe9f:9802" it works
[03:20] <lasindi> My understanding is a "link-local" address is specific to the link, i.e. from my computer to the router
[03:20] <lasindi> Don't know if that's correct
[03:21] <eaglef00t> jane_: I recommend 'playonlinux' which will allow you to use some windows programs.
[03:23] <abdelfattah> hey
[03:23] <eaglef00t> lasindi: np, your response came through and I'm thinking...
[03:23] <abdelfattah> any one have a 3642 open port ?
[03:24] <lotuspsychje> abdelfattah: how is it related with ubuntu?
[03:25] <eaglef00t> lasindi: did you try the IPv6 hex address of ipv6.google.com?  I'm a IP6 noob as well.
[03:27] <tourdejord> Hello.  First time using IRC here.
[03:27] <TravisDillo> hi
[03:27] <th3g3ntl3man> Same! I'm new to IRC here too
[03:28] <tourdejord> right on.  gentleman?  How did you here about IRC?  or what brought you to it?
[03:28] <th3g3ntl3man> I was a cyber security intern this summer. My coworkers told me i should check out IRC
[03:28] <lotuspsychje> !ot
[03:29] <lasindi> eaglef00t, I tried using the Google DNS server 2001:4860:4860::8888 (from here: https://developers.google.com/speed/public-dns/docs/using) but no cigar
[03:29] <lasindi> by "use" I mean tried to ping6 it
[03:30] <tourdejord> I need to know if anyone has a suggestion or video for downloading linux to an asus chromebox.  I don't trust my own search results.
[03:30] <tourdejord> currently I have Gallium
[03:32] <lotuspsychje> !download | tourdejord
[03:33] <dloc> sup
[03:33] <tourdejord> Thanks for the direction Ubottu!
[03:33] <Keitaro> why in ubuntu why i shoud have 8 giga of ram i only see 7.7 in the parameter ?
[03:33] <dloc> i have no sound i need help
[03:34] <cantoo> i use pavucontrol to mute abohrrent sound cards of seal descent
[03:35] <eaglef00t> lasindi: http://askubuntu.com/questions/645008/ipv6-connect-network-is-unreachable may help. Sorry I'm out of ideas.
[03:35] <dloc> ive gone through settings and still have no sound i am on a raspberry pi 3 any ideas of whats wrong?
[03:36] <lasindi> eaglef00t, Alrighty thanks for the attempt. I'll let you know if I figure it out :(
[03:36] <eaglef00t> dloc: Sound thru HDMI or audio jack? Just picked up a pi3 myself.
[03:36] <lotuspsychje> !arm | dloc
[03:36] <dloc> audio theres no option for hdmi on mate
[03:37] <Bashing-om> Keitaro: Bios sharing some amount of ram with the video card ?
[03:38] <eaglef00t> dloc: *shrug* Maybe try another distro such as OSMC, RetroPie, etc.
[03:39] <energizer> Is there a file manager that has that cool nesting thing like osx finder has?, where you see all the items in the whole tree down to where you are
[03:39] <energizer> in columns
[03:43] <TravisDillo> energizer> in columns << you mean Nautilus?
[03:43] <TravisDillo> That's what I use as the 'Finder' in Ubuntu
[03:44] <energizer> i'm talking about the interface
[03:44] <energizer> TravisDillo:  i mean you click on ~/Downloads and it leaves ~ open and creates a new column to the right of ~'s directory, and shows ~/downloads, click on something in there, and you get three adjacent columns. |~ | Downloads | subfolder |
[03:45] <cantoo> i would like to attach a photograph of my id to all my photographs to share.  is this legal in America and were it not, can it be done with ubuntu using either gif or jpeg format ?
[03:45] <TravisDillo> as I said, that's what I use in Ubuntu
[03:45] <TravisDillo> Nautilus works fine for me
[03:46] <TravisDillo> there may be other similar utilities you can install, but I generally stick with what Ubuntu provides
[03:47] <cantoo> btw, grub also supports booting from iso.. there is a requirement.  you must have an iso on your hard drive
[03:48] <Keitaro> Bashing-om, normally no
[03:48] <Keitaro> in windows when i check it said that i have 8 Giga of ram
[03:49] <TravisDillo> just installed 16.04 and am playing with it a bit
[03:49] <Keitaro> other question is the guest account useful ? because i am thinking to remove it. it looks like that for security it is not very good if everybody can log in with it
[03:50] <cantoo> Keitaro, linux very good for you as long as it multiarch or 64 bit.  thats what i know for memory above 4gb.  many times ago a iso been downloading from times past you had to have a hardened security kernel.  those are the days of the speed tweakers.  we didn't need core 2 duos back then.
[03:51] <cantoo> oops.  i meant server kernel.  i'm no rights reserved for all that i speak.  it never hit or miss though.
[03:53] <Keitaro> euh cantoo can i explain again plz i didn't understand
[03:54] <cantoo> Keitaro, if you are using ubuntu with either nothing but 64-bit (feared) or 64-bit and 32 bit.  it seem all your memory and it put to best use per regulation.
[03:54] <cantoo> see
[03:55] <bitcoinassassin> Keitaro: re: a guest account, if you're the only one using your computer, you can just create your own user log in. you don't need a guest account.
[03:56] <cantoo> in the future, it a hand picking
[03:56] <Keitaro> oki i will remove it
[03:56] <fowl> hi i lost power and when i turn it back on, gtk looks like garbage look at this: http://i.imgur.com/QQe0dZm.png how do i fix it
[04:03] <fowl> this is what gnome-tweak-tool looks like (such garbage) http://i.imgur.com/CONFm1K.png
[04:20] <dat>  seems like im being forced into 16.04
[04:20] <modprime> How do I get Ubuntu 16.04 to see my Creative Soundblaster X-Fi SB0950 Expresscard sound card?
[04:34] <jmadero> hi all - I'm getting speed test results of ~3.5Mb/s in Ubuntu 14.04, 22 in Windows 7/Android
[04:37] <Y4kuzi> I wish I had such results, jmadero
[04:37] <Y4kuzi> my BCM chip is pretty messed up.
[05:07] <aleoreina> BUenas noches como estan gente?
[05:11] <z3usx> Buenas noches
[05:12] <z3usx> buenas noches
[05:12] <z3usx> good night
[05:12] <z3usx> ?
[05:13] <anshu2212> leave
[05:25] <jmadero> hi all - I'm getting speed test results of ~3.5Mb/s in Ubuntu 14.04, 22 in Windows 7/Android
[05:42] <z3usx> hello
[05:42] <z3usx> wenas?
[05:42] <fowl> no
[05:42] <z3usx> :)
[05:44] <TravisDillo> Canonical _so_ needs to make file sharing available out of the box, as Mac has since longe before OS X
[05:45] <TravisDillo> *long
[05:45] <TravisDillo> a File Sharing utility in System Tools
[05:45] <z3usx> Hello how are you friends?
[05:45] <TravisDillo> see the above frustration
[05:48] <z3usx> Hello any from venezuela?
[05:49] <z3usx> any dev?
[05:50] <Keitaro> dev ?
[05:52] <z3usx> Developer
[05:52] <Guest45148> hi
[05:52] <z3usx> How are you?
[05:53] <Guest45148> good
[05:53] <Guest45148> i am new to this hexchat
[05:53] <Guest45148> whats it about?
[05:54] <jmadero> it's about support for ubuntu
[05:54] <Guest45148> ok
[05:54] <TravisDillo> a generally useful IRC client
[05:54] <TravisDillo> lots of networks and channels out there
[05:54] <TravisDillo> Freenode has many, many topics of interest
[05:55] <TravisDillo> politics, economics, ham radio, health, you name it
[05:55] <Guest45148> so how can add a new channel
[05:56] <LordLaravel> how 2 get channel list
[05:56] <TravisDillo> http://hexchat.readthedocs.io/en/latest/getting_started.html
[05:57] <TravisDillo> from the Server menu, select List Of Channels
[05:58] <TravisDillo> Click on the Download List button
[06:06] <z3usx> jeje ok
[06:06] <z3usx> I new in the chat IRC
[06:07] <z3usx> Any developer?
[06:07] <z3usx> in php or Python
[06:07] <lotuspsychje> !alis | z3usx
[06:07] <TravisDillo> only monty
[06:10] <custservice> Ubuntu should of made a phone
[06:10] <TravisDillo> they're working on it
[06:10] <TravisDillo> Ubuntu Mobile
[06:10] <custservice> TravisDillo: sure
[06:11] <TravisDillo> http://www.ubuntu.com/phone
[06:11] <custservice> TravisDillo: like Firefox phones
[06:11] <z3usx> Travis your from?
[06:11] <TravisDillo> Earth
[06:11] <xoxoxo> :))
[06:11] <z3usx> hehehe
[06:11] <xoxoxo> our solar system
[06:12] <custservice> xoxoxo: what is the name of your solar system
[06:12] <lotuspsychje> !ot
[06:13] <custservice> Android is great on phones but terrible for desktop use
[06:14] <xoxoxo> our solar system
[06:14] <mihael_k33hl> I have Ubuntu 16.04 installed on my laptop. It has a very high CPU usage whenever I browse the Internet using Chrome or Firefox. What could be the problem for it?
[06:15] <TravisDillo> Browsers use lots of power for their rendering engines
[06:19] <phablet> hello
[06:19] <phablet> anybody?
[06:19] <lotuspsychje> !ask | phablet
[06:20] <fowl> ask your question so nobody can answer you
[06:20] <phablet> what!?
[06:21] <phablet> 和他clean /usr /share directory
[06:22] <phablet> how
[06:22] <phablet>  to
[06:25] <z3usx> ??
[06:52] <woodrag> I have installed a 16.04.1 Ubuntu Server on an openstack platform with Apache2 and i am trying to run roundcube which is a PHP webapplication. When visiting the main page of roundcube on this new server, i see PHP code instead of the roundcube application. Somehow the PHP is not executed but printed. What am i doing wrong??
[06:55] <auronandace> woodrag: you can try asking in #ubuntu-server as they are more geared towards server issues
[06:55] <woodrag> Thankx
[06:57] <xtreamwayz> Ubuntu has multiple clipboards? I'm using keepass2 and I couldn't paste in some programs. I just figured out that ctrl+shift+insert did work. But if I copied something from the browser first and afterwards keepass2 ctrl+shift+v pastes the text from the browser and ctrl+shift+insert from keepass2.
[06:57] <xtreamwayz> So my guess is there are multiple clipboards
[06:57] <xtreamwayz> Is there any way to sync those?
[07:23] <milamber> xtreamwayz: http://askubuntu.com/questions/26655/how-do-you-know-when-to-use-shiftinsert-vs-ctrl-v-vs-right-click-paste-to-paste
[07:27] <xtreamwayz> milamber: thanx, that explains it
[07:27] <milamber> xtreamwayz: np
[07:46] <bullrid3r> hey
[07:50] <daun> what is the firs step to SSH using my iphone?
[07:51] <daun> (jailbroke) FYI
[07:53] <daun> what program do I need to install for initial SSH setup using Ubuntu sheeple?
[07:53] <james_51> RedStarOS
[07:54] <daun> thank you!
[08:01] <tdiesel> Hello
[08:05] <gr8zatara> +
[08:07] <loan> Hi ! I have a problem : I modified my GRUB_DEFAULT Variable and i set the string of the boot entry, but i can't boot my server anymore... How it's possible ? I've also tryed with numbers !
[08:10] <Minege> Someone ?
[08:11] <Minege> HHEY ?
[08:11] <zergov> Hello
[08:11] <RustyShackleford> hey guys
[08:12] <tarjo> is the server local or remote ?
[08:12] <RustyShackleford> my intel nuc (6th gen processor) doesn't play nice with the ubuntu 16.04 kernel
[08:12] <RustyShackleford> um hold on, I'll find the stackoverflow post
[08:13] <RustyShackleford> apparantly it is resolved in a newer kernel
[08:13] <RustyShackleford> is there a way to try this in a live usb to verify? I'd like to make sure before I install
[08:13] <RustyShackleford> http://askubuntu.com/questions/752743/ubuntu-16-04-skylake-6th-generation-screen-flickering
[08:17] <Minege> Hi zergov
[08:17] <Minege> I have modified my grub config file to boot to another kernel, with string and with number
[08:17] <Minege> every time it block to boot
[08:17] <Minege> so, it can't boot at all
[08:17] <Minege> and i need to reinstall my server
[08:18] <tarjo> is the server local or remote ?
[08:20] <zergov> hellllo
[08:21] <phucktank> Anyone want to help me with bridged networking? My VM has internet access just I can't ping through network
[08:22] <RustyShackleford> could someone running 16.04 LTS kindly share which kernel they're running
[08:22] <phucktank> 4.4.0-31-generic
[08:23] <phucktank> Rustyshackleford, 4.4.0-31-generic
[08:23] <Minege> @tarjo the server is remote
[08:23] <RustyShackleford> I guess I need 4.4.0-18 or newer
[08:24] <phucktank> Rustyshackleford, what kind of issue are you having
[08:24] <RustyShackleford> phucktank, ubuntu 16.04 LTS doesn't play nice with my 6th gen intel mobile processor
[08:24] <RustyShackleford> lots of graphic artifacts, its unusuable
[08:25] <phucktank> Rustyshackleford, ahh. Can't hurt to update it
[08:25] <RustyShackleford> I'd like to try with a live usb first...
[08:25] <RustyShackleford> can I run a newer kernel on a live usb?
[08:26] <RustyShackleford> some are saying to go even newer to resolve issues with this processor
[08:26] <RustyShackleford> 4.6 or so
[08:26] <phucktank> Rustyshackleford, that is a question I do not know. if people are saying it on forums then I'd give it a shot
[08:27] <phucktank> Rustyshackleford, is it currently running on a live usb, or do you have it installed?
[08:27] <RustyShackleford> well I have a working windows installation right now
[08:27] <Minege> TARJO, the server is remote
[08:27] <RustyShackleford> I did originally install ubuntu, faced these issues, and wiped the drive
[08:28] <RustyShackleford> I suppose I could just install to disk and experiement with different kernels
[08:28] <phucktank> That's what I would do if I were you. Worst case you can always go back
[08:28] <elhoir> i remember that xserver was having problems with intel HD 4400 GPUs
[08:28] <elhoir> maybe its your issue
[08:28] <RustyShackleford> i haven't had luck with linux hardware support in like two years :/
[08:29] <RustyShackleford> elhoir, 6th gen intel
[08:29] <bekks> Minege: if it is a remote server, is it some VPS?
[08:29] <RustyShackleford> funny enough, I had the same issue on my laptop (3rd gen)
[08:30] <Minege> yes, bekks
[08:30] <Minege> it's a remote vps server
[08:30] <bekks> Minege: So contact your hoster for a reinstallation.
[08:30] <bekks> Minege: You cannot reinstall it on your own.
[08:30] <Minege> I can do the reinstallation myself
[08:30] <Minege> i have a panel
[08:30] <bekks> Minege: So do it.
[08:30] <Minege> but it's the 5 reinstallation i do
[08:30] <Minege> and every time
[08:30] <Minege> my grub don't agree
[08:30] <Minege> but i had the correct things...
[08:30] <Minege> i added
[08:30] <bekks> Minege: Then stop the things you are doing after reinstalling since you obviously break things then.
[08:31] <bekks> Minege: And stop using enter that often please. Enter is not a punctuation sign.
[08:31] <leo_> prova
[08:31] <Minege> Yes, but i need to modify my grub, and i will always break it, so i want to do it correctly
[08:31] <bekks> Minege: If you have a panel there is entirely no need for touching grub at all.
[08:32] <Minege> Why ?
[08:32] <bekks> Minege: Why are you touching grub?
[08:33] <bekks> Minege: your panel offers a reinstallation, including grub.
[08:33] <Minege> Because i need to boot to a other kernel
[08:33] <Minege> openVZ
[08:33] <bekks> Minege: your panel offers your to reinstall your vps, and ships a openvz kernel which is booted by default.
[08:34] <bekks> Minege: Or do you manually reinstall, like attaching the install media, etc.?
[08:34] <Minege> With my panel i can reinstall OS, but not directly with openVZ in, so i do it myself, and it work, but when i modify /etc/default/grub, and i do a update-grub, it won't reboot
[08:35] <bekks> Minege: thats a manual reinstallation, which is pretty much useless.
[08:35] <bekks> Minege: Contact your hoster for reinstalling your vps.
[08:35] <fowl> GRAH
[08:36] <Minege> In my panel i do Reinstall - > Flavor i want -> Ok
[08:36] <Minege> So that's not a manual installation
[08:36] <bekks> Minege: And whats the problem with that onstall then? If everything works why do you need to change a kernel then?
[08:37] <Minege> I reinstall on normal version of ubuntu, debian.. Then, i install openvz, and if i want to use openvz, i need to boot into it. So, because it's a remote server, i don't have grub interface, so i modify the default grub boot to openVZ, and then, it broke the grub voilà
[08:38] <bekks> Minege: So you are trying to install openvz in an openvz server?
[08:38] <bekks> Thats not going to work.
[08:39] <Minege> Why this not going to work ?
[08:39] <Minege> It's a virtual system
[08:39] <bekks> Minege: Because its not supported?
[08:39] <Minege> i can do all i can in it
[08:39] <Minege> ...
[08:39] <Minege> bye.....
[08:39] <bekks> Your VPS already IS an openvz instance. You cannot run a nested openvz instance in it.
[08:39] <bekks> Bye.
[08:39] <RustyShackleford> bah I should just buy a macbook lol
[08:39] <RustyShackleford> linux on the desktop hates me
[08:40] -terabits:#ubuntu- join ##kill-all-the-jews
[08:58] <asar> please help
[08:58] <asar> ubuntu-desktop : Depends: unity but it is not going to be installed
[09:00] <davide_> buon giorno a tutti
[09:01] <davide_> cerco delle serie tv... potete aiutarmi?
[09:03] <bekks> asar: Pastebing the entire output please, and provide the URL.
[09:16] <sonu_nk> Hi , i am installing Network Security Service libraries and it showing me Breaks existing package 'libnss3-nssdb' dependency libnss3 error
[09:16] <TheLawyer> I'm trying to format a sdcard (/dev/sdb) using fdisk while it's mounted, when I write it returns an error message "Re-reading the partition table failed.: Device or resource busy"
[09:16] <TheLawyer> if I umount it and it's not longer available to fdisk ... how shall go about that?
[09:16] <TheLawyer> this is mount entry of the mentioned sdcard
[09:16] <TheLawyer> /dev/sdb1 on /media/jen/1B16FA646EF8E696 type fuseblk (ro,nosuid,nodev,relatime,user_id=0,group_id=0,default_permissions,allow_other,blksize=4096,uhelper=udisks2)
[09:17] <bekks> You cannot format it while it is mounted.
[09:18] <Guest57844> kokoti
[09:18] <Guest57844> dementi
[09:18] <Guest57844> curaci
[09:18] <Guest57844> fuck off
[09:18] <Guest57844> fuck off
[09:18] <Guest57844> fuck off
[09:18] <Guest57844> fuck off
[09:18] <Guest57844> fuck off
[09:18] <TheLawyer> bekks: and fdisk doesn't see it if it's not mounted
[09:18] <bekks> TheLawyer: fdisk does not format anything and is irrelevant at that point. And fdisk doesnt care about partitions/devices being mounted.
[09:19] <bekks> TheLawyer: Unmount the sd card, recreate the filesystem on it.
[09:36] <V7> Hey everyone
[09:36] <V7> I have some troubles with WiFi on new Ubuntu 16.04
[09:37] <V7> Issue: I'm connectint to WiFi gracefully, but after 3-5 mins of connection I have no connection
[09:37] <me_> Hi.
[09:37] <V7> WiFi connected, but no internet connection exists ...
[09:37] <me_> When starting openvpn client the tun interface is not created. I am thinking that may be some kernel module missing. Can anyone advise?
[09:37] <V7> Now I'm connected through lan
[09:38] <V7> Might be that because of Ubuntu Keyring ?
[09:38] <Tano75> ciao a tutti
[09:39] <me_> V7: have you tried other devices ( after the connection is broken )?
[09:39] <V7> Other adapters or devices ( Like Mobile phone ) ?
[09:39] <me_> V7: mobile will be find.
[09:39] <asar> guys help me... i remove unity from my pc and now it doesnt show up
[09:39] <V7> I'll try now
[09:39] <me_> asar: strange...and seriously are you in cli now?
[09:40] <me_> asar: if it doesn't start at all you need to start system in single user mode ( via grub ) make chroot on the system and istall unity from apt-get.
[09:41] <me_> asar: not a ubuntu guy so can't give you specifics.
[09:41] <bekks> asar: Can you pastebin the information request?
[09:41] <bekks> *requested
[09:41] <V7> me_: Ha ... My smartphone ( Galaxy S5 ) is connected to WiFi router about 25 mins ... and I didn't disconnect it. So ... now I can't load any page ...
[09:41] <V7> That's strange ...
[09:42] <bekks> And totally unrelated to Ubuntu.
[09:42] <V7> I even can't load any page through any app, like YouTube
[09:42] <V7> But WiFi connected
[09:42] <V7> Is that means that WiFi router just fu* up ?
[09:43] <me_> V7: isp is fucked most probably. Had the same issue few days ago.
[09:43] <bekks> Check the status page of the router.
[09:43] <Tano75> !list
[09:43] <me_> V7: ip r and ping the default gateway.
[09:43] <V7> bekks: 1 sec
[09:43] <yuval6547> hello
[09:43] <me_> Hi.
[09:44] <yuval6547> Any one here is good at networking configuration
[09:44] <yuval6547> ?
[09:44] <me_> Wouldn't say good but may try to help. What do you need?
[09:44] <V7> bekks: opens
[09:44] <yuval6547> Do you know what multicast is?
[09:45] <V7> Yeah
[09:45] <me_> yuval6547: don't have hands on expirience. Sorry.
[09:45] <V7> I opened a page through Phone
[09:45] <V7> But I can't open it in Ubuntu
[09:46] <yuval6547> Do you know a good book about advance networking
[09:46] <bekks> V7: So read the content. Check the status of your routers internet connection. And ALL THAT is unrelated to this channel, and offtopic in here.
[09:46] <V7> bekks: I can't open it in Ubuntu !
[09:46] <V7> Phone opened
[09:46] <yuval6547> Is there a channel about networking on linux?
[09:46] <bekks> V7: hardware diagnosis of a router isnt ontopic here.
[09:46] <bekks> yuval6547: Yes.
[09:46] <asar> bekks: i tried to install unity with sudo apt install unity but it says unity 7.4.xxx is already installed
[09:47] <bekks> yuval6547: ##networking
[09:47] <V7> bekks: That's not a router issue, sir
[09:47] <bekks> asar: Third time: please pastebin the entire output and provide the URL.
[09:47] <V7> I think that this is Ubuntu Keyring ....
[09:47] <yuval6547> Ok thanks
[09:47] <bekks> V7: With an invalid keyring, how would you successfully connect to a wifi?
[09:48] <V7> I don't know, but ... mb
[09:48] <asar> bekks: here is it http://paste.ubuntu.com/23096787/
[09:48] <V7> I din't had that Ubuntu Keyring about years, but suddenly it apeared when I've installed Ubuntu 16.04 )))
[09:49] <asar> bekks: maybe i should restart my pc and see
[09:49] <bekks> asar: So unity is successflly installed. And why do you thuink reboot solves problems?
[09:49] <bekks> asar: your initial question was a different one.
[09:49] <V7> And network just shuts off after 3-5 mins after connection ...
[09:50] <V7> I have Lenovo X201 and clear Ubuntu 16.04 installed on it )
[09:50] <asar> bekks: i first it didn't allow me to install. it shows this error( you have held a broken packages)
[09:51] <V7> On this laptop is a tiny led which shows WiFi usage, so when Internet shuts of this Led shows that WiFi is using by something ...
[09:51] <V7> off *
[09:51] <bekks> V7: It shows "wifi is on".
[09:52] <bekks> V7: It doesnt show "wifi is used by something"
[09:52] <V7> Yup, but when it uses then it blinking
[09:52] <V7> it's *
[09:53] <pepijndevos> I have a usb wifi dongle that shows up as 0bda:818b Realtek Semiconductor Corp. Does that work in any way with Ubuntu?
[09:54] <V7> pepijndevos: I think that name of USB dongle won't tell you the workness of this dongle :D
[09:55] <V7> operability *
[09:55] <georgia13> Hello. Sony Vaio VPCEH. WiFi isn't hard blocked or anything like that- and I can see the WiFi names but when I enter the password, after 30 seconds it requests me the password again. Infinitely.
[09:55] <pepijndevos> V7, right, so how do I find out? It for sure isn't recognized out of the box. I found some Debian page about firmware-realtek, but no luck.
[09:56] <V7> Might you need a driver ?
[09:56] <georgia13> I don't know.
[09:56] <pepijndevos> Probably, but how do I find out which? I have no idea which chipset it uses, and how to find out.
[09:57] <georgia13> THere was a command doing this exact thing
[09:57] <georgia13> I don't remember though
[09:58] <V7_> Internet ...
[09:58] <V7_> Try this one https://sites.google.com/site/easylinuxtipsproject/reserve-7
[09:59] <V7_> Internet ...
[09:59] <V7_> Try this one https://sites.google.com/site/easylinuxtipsproject/reserve-7
[10:00] <RealPanV> Hello. Sony Vaio VPCEH. WiFi isn't hard blocked or anything like that- and I can see the WiFi names but when I enter the password, after 30 seconds it requests me the password again. Infinitely.
[10:01] <V7_> RealPanV: Is that means that You have ubuntu installed ?
[10:01] <RealPanV> Yes
[10:01] <V7_> Which one ?
[10:01] <RealPanV> I have Ubuntu 16.04 LTS
[10:02] <RealPanV> Installed yersteday on a "broken" laptop with unbootable Windows 7
[10:02] <RealPanV> do you want the kernel version too?
[10:02] <V7_> Me too ... and I have WiFI issue too, but another )) My WiFi internet connection shuts off after 3-5 mins of connection, but WiFi connection is stable :D
[10:02] <RealPanV> I connect to the WiFi, I wait a bit after I entered the password, then it asks it again
[10:02] <RealPanV> and again and again and again
[10:03] <RealPanV> in this unending circle
[10:03] <V7_> I'm working on it now ... RealPanV http://askubuntu.com/questions/263529/wifi-keeps-prompting-for-password
[10:03] <RealPanV> THANKS lemme check
[10:04] <V7_> RealPanV: also http://askubuntu.com/questions/131919/wireless-keeps-asking-for-password
[10:04] <V7_> And http://askubuntu.com/questions/659153/wifi-keep-asking-password
[10:04] <RealPanV> wowwowow
[10:04] <RealPanV> too much information to handle
[10:04] <RealPanV> gosh I need to get better googling skills
[10:05] <RealPanV> writing the model isn't the solution always then- I thought Vaio's were known to have issues. Lemme check <3
[10:09] <blackflow> yummy, upgrading to yakkety!
[10:10] <RealPanV> doesnt seem to work, lemme check a bit more
[10:12] <RealPanV> nope, I tried almost all of them and still wont work
[10:13] <V7_> RealPanV: Ha veyou removed all wifi networks and reconnect to it ?
[10:13] <RealPanV> Lemme try once more
[10:14] <RealPanV> So
[10:15] <Exterminador> guys, i have a question. i want to install Ubuntu in dual boot. but can i set windows to boot by default?
[10:15] <V7_> Exterminador: Yup
[10:15] <V7_> They easly with Grub configuration
[10:15] <V7_> Very *
[10:16] <Exterminador> i'll try Xubuntu..
[10:16] <V7_> Exterminador: http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2014/04/install-grub-customizer-ubuntu-1404/
[10:16] <Exterminador> last time i tried, my hdd died
[10:16] <Exterminador> lol.. it was already in EOL
[10:17] <RealPanV> V7_: , no
[10:17] <Exterminador> i'll check that V7_
[10:17] <V7_> RealPanV: :(
[10:17] <RealPanV> Can I connect with WPS?
[10:17] <RealPanV> :c
[10:17] <RealPanV> nevermind that one
[10:18] <OnceMe> hello I have an issue copying č ć š ć from my pdf file on linux 12.04 lts, what to do?
[10:19] <V7_> RealPanV: maybe this one Open Network Manager > Edit Connection > Wireless tab > double-click your connection to edit it > make sure "Connect Automatically" box has a Tick-mark in it > Save and close > Done !
[10:19] <V7_> OnceMe: Which charset uses you PDF file ?
[10:19] <mikatone> guys an't install proftpd https://gist.github.com/fccpt/7f0a5a58fa0a4d1737883fdede5e8794
[10:19] <RealPanV> I somehow fixed it by opening the Network Settings and connecting from there
[10:20] <RealPanV> Wow.
[10:20] <alkisg> OnceMe: many pdf are broken and don't contain a proper map for the symbols to real characters, so the solution is actually to tell the authors to use better tools to generate the pdf
[10:20] <Exterminador> V7_: is it possible to change the way ubuntu deals with things when u write passwords? normally it dont show up anything. can i change it to appear "****"?
[10:21] <V7_> Exterminador: I'll try to find this one out, but Passwords are hidden so no-one can see over your shoulder when you enter it. It's a security measure.
[10:22] <Exterminador> yeah, i know it.. but instead of a blank it will appear a * for each character u type.
[10:22] <V7_> That way, someone who sees your screen can't see the length of your password.
[10:22] <Exterminador> it's a home pc and only i have access to it :)
[10:23] <Exterminador> my wife barely knows how to boot up windows
[10:23] <Exterminador> lmao
[10:23] <alkisg> mikatone: run sudo apt-get update, and try again; if you still have the issue, verify that you have the "universe" source enabled
[10:23] <Exterminador> and it's Windows only installed now
[10:23] <Exterminador> xD
[10:23] <V7_> Exterminador: http://www.howtogeek.com/194010/how-to-make-password-asterisks-visible-in-the-terminal-window-in-linux/
[10:24] <mikatone> alkisg I have runned apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[10:24] <V7_> mikatone: Do full-upgrade
[10:24] <alkisg> mikatone: do you have universe enabled?
[10:25] <Exterminador> V7_: tks.. that will work on a vps i have?
[10:25] <rangergord> is this the right channel for questions about Ubuntu Server?
[10:25] <Exterminador> i got root accese
[10:25] <Exterminador> *access
[10:25] <alkisg> mikatone: $ apt policy proftpd-basic ==> 500 http://gr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial/universe i386 Packages
[10:26] <V7_> If provider gives you a root access then you'll do the trick
[10:26] <Exterminador> yeah, i have it. :)
[10:26] <asar> bekks: this help http://askubuntu.com/questions/17381/unity-doesnt-load-no-launcher-no-dash-appears
[10:27] <me_> Can't find tun.ko.gz kernel module. Any idea where to get it?
[10:28] <mikatone> alkisg WARNING: apt does not have a stable CLI interface yet. Use with caution in scripts.
[10:28] <alkisg> mikatone: that doesn't matter, the basic question is if you have enabled universe or not
[10:28] <alkisg> mikatone: if you don't understand the question, tell me to rephrase it with more words
[10:30] <alkisg> mikatone: what's the output of this command? grep -r '^[^#].*universe' /etc/apt/sources.list*
[10:30] <Exterminador> V7_: do i need to restart the machine?
[10:30] <asar> guys help me out http://paste.ubuntu.com/23097022/
[10:30] <V7_> Exterminador: After what ?
[10:31] <Exterminador> after set the asterisks stuff
[10:31] <MonkeyDust> mikatone  i know what ^ does, but what's ^[^#]
[10:31] <Exterminador> it still dont show up
[10:31] <Exterminador> i've followed the tutorial
[10:31] <alkisg> MonkeyDust: if you're asking me, it means "doesn't start with a comment, #"
[10:31] <V7_> Exterminador: First try to log out
[10:31] <mikatone> MonkeyDust thats the output nothing else
[10:32] <Exterminador> i've done that V7_
[10:32] <V7_> MonkeyDust: That's regex
[10:32] <MonkeyDust> alkisg  yes, i addressed the wrong person
[10:33] <V7_> So Exterminador that means that it shows up ?
[10:33] <mikatone> alkisg https://gist.github.com/fccpt/7f0a5a58fa0a4d1737883fdede5e8794
[10:33] <alkisg> mikatone: that is the old output, what about the command I told you to run?
[10:33] <Exterminador> V7_: nope. still blank
[10:33] <V7_> Try reboot
[10:34] <alkisg> mikatone: run `software-properties-gtk` and enable the universe repository
[10:34] <mikatone> is there the second comment
[10:34] <alkisg> mikatone: ok, you don't have universe enabled
[10:34] <alkisg> Run software-properties-gtk and enable it
[10:35] <mikatone> alkisg https://gist.github.com/fccpt/7f0a5a58fa0a4d1737883fdede5e8794
[10:35] <Exterminador> erm.. i'll reboot it later.. too many procs running now
[10:35] <V7_> Exterminador: roger ... I'll back soon
[10:35] <alkisg> mikatone: which environment is that? e.g. xubuntu, or ubuntu-server etc
[10:36] <mikatone> alkisg ubuntu-server 14.04
[10:36] <alkisg> mikatone: try this one: sudo add-apt-repository universe
[10:36] <alkisg> (then apt-get update etc)
[10:37] <mikatone> alkisg updated gist
[10:38] <alkisg> mikatone: err it seems that your sources.list was complete deleted in the past. Try this one now: sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list.apt-setup /etc/apt/sources.list; sudo apt-get update
[10:44] <mikatone> alkisg updated gist
[10:45] <SmackFinSp> Hello! Can I clone a ubuntu machine to antoher one with different hardware suing clonezilla? Is only 32bits/64bits the only restriction?
[10:46] <MonkeyDust> !clone | SmackFinSp
[10:47] <asar> guys help me out http://paste.ubuntu.com/23097022/
[10:48] <SmackFinSp> It's more than replicating software packages, but config files, themes, and specific files than cannot be stored in a ISO produced by remastersys for example...
[10:48] <SmackFinSp> as ISO has a 4GB limit size
[10:49] <MonkeyDust> SmackFinSp  you can use rsync to make a copy of your /home
[10:49] <MonkeyDust> copy/backup
[10:49] <mikatone> alkisg any idea https://gist.github.com/fccpt/7f0a5a58fa0a4d1737883fdede5e8794
[10:50] <SmackFinSp> MonkeyDust: but users accounts and configurations, sudoers, etc...
[10:50] <SmackFinSp> that's not stored in /home
[10:51] <SmackFinSp> again my question...is it bad to just clone partition to antoher machine with different hardware? will that make trouble?
[10:51] <MonkeyDust> SmackFinSp  you can backup those too, /etc et al
[10:52] <mikatone> alkisg managed to install but having issues
[10:52] <bekks> SmackFinSp: And dont forget to store data under /var in case you need it, like mysql databases, user mail, etc.
[10:54] <GLaDER> Is there a specific channel ubuntu server?
[10:54] <MonkeyDust> GLaDER  #ubuntu-server
[10:54] <GLaDER> MonkeyDust: Ofc. I only tried #ubuntuserver. Cheers
[10:54] <SmackFinSp> But please could anybody answer me if cloning whole partition to antoher machine with different hardware would cause any problem, please?
[10:55] <mikatone> anyone please check my gist https://gist.github.com/fccpt/7f0a5a58fa0a4d1737883fdede5e8794
[10:55] <SmackFinSp> !clone
[10:55] <Henry_> that would depend how diff that hardware is
[10:55] <Henry_> quick
[10:56] <mikatone> Solved some permission issue! ;)
[11:09] <tdiesel> I'm back
[11:13] <tdiesel> Hi!
[11:18] <tdiesel> Hello!!!
[11:19] <Sord> Hi. I have overheating problem with amd gpu. For some reason fans are near idle no matter what is temperature.
[11:19] <Sord> 16.04
[11:21] <BL4DE> Does anyone know how to set up empathy to work with SIP?
[11:21] <Sord> I looked some tips from here but those files are read only: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/ATI#Fan_Speed
[11:22] <BL4DE> I've been trying forever all sorts of configurations. the furthest I got was empathy asking me to provide password. I click on the + icon and nothing happens, says authentication failed
[11:25] <xoxoxo> hi, check this please: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23097135/
[11:27] <tdiesel> I check it
[11:27] <sonu_nk>  Hi can one help me to install Upwork on ubntu .. it is showing in issue when login connetion error , please check connection.. how wired message , i am doing intenet with speed
[11:27] <xoxoxo> is mispelled
[11:32] <Redbeardt> Can someone tell me how to know what my window manager is? An AskUbuntu question recommends reinstalling it for my issue but none of the packages they name as the window managers are installed on my setup.
[11:32] <Redbeardt> desktop environment*
[11:33] <adamg> what version of ubuntu?
[11:33] <Redbeardt> 16.04.01 LTS
[11:35] <tdiesel> Hi!
[11:36] <Redbeardt> The issue, btw, is that I installed a regular update like I always do and now I get a black login screen (with sound) when using my Nvidia GPU (Optimus tech).
[11:36] <Redbeardt> I really don't want to reinstall Ubuntu since I've had to do so many tweaks just to get my system working properly at all.
[11:37] <tdiesel> Ohh! I have to go,then bye bye!
[11:38] <Redbeardt> bai
[11:44] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:53] <v1nt> all hi
[11:54] <zonality> /exit
[11:55] <kang00> Anyone used Web Api?
[11:57] <bekks> web api of what?
[11:58] <kang00> bekks any Web Api which is fetching data from any website
[11:58] <bekks> How is that an Ubuntu question?
[11:59] <kang00> I don't think
[11:59] <kang00> Know
[11:59] <bekks> kang00: So what is your Ubuntu related support question?
[12:02] <kang00> Is there Any bridge bot for freenode and matrix channel?
[12:02] <bekks> kang00: So what is your Ubuntu related support question?
[12:02] <kang00> For Ubuntu channel
[12:04] <nexusguy59> Good morning everyone
[12:04] <V7> So ...
[12:04] <V7> I noticed on more problem in Ubuntu 16.04
[12:05] <V7> nexusguy59: morning
[12:05] <V7> one more *
[12:05] <V7> So ... when I'm enabling bluetooth on computer then Ubuntu's bluetooth icons shows me up that Bluetooth is disabled when it's enabled ...
[12:06] <V7> But ... when I'm disabling it in unity bar then it's disapearing !
[12:13] <V7> So ... anyone had a WiFi and BlueTooth trouble in Ubuntu 16.04 ?
[12:14] <liava_> ever used reaver?
[12:15] <V7> liava_: ?
[12:15] <V7> I don't need to hack it
[12:15] <V7> I need to work it stably :D
[12:16] <liava_> eh?
[12:16] <liava_> oh right ..
[12:16] <liava_> i just scan
[12:16] <liava_> not trying to hack
[12:16] <liava_> but.. does it fail sometimes ?
[12:17] <V7> liava_: 60%
[12:17] <liava_> hmmv k
[12:17] <V7> 'cause he uses bruteforce on WPS password
[12:17] <V7> So ... new routers have some bruteforce security chips or programs :D
[12:22] <Redbeardt> .. I guess I'm just going to  have to hopeand wait that another update fixes my problem. Nothing on AskUbuntu is working.
[12:22] <Redbeardt> Since it was an update that caused it, I suppose.
[12:24] <BluesKaj> Redbeardt, care to tell us your issue?
[12:25] <Redbeardt> Installed a routine update  Software Updater. Rebooted with Nvidia GPU selected (Optimus tech). Login screen is blank, but I hear the audio.
[12:25] <Redbeardt> Everything works fine with the Intel GPU selected.
[12:25] <geirha> If you've used the default desktop environment for Ubuntu, then make sure the package named ubuntu-desktop is installed
[12:26] <blackflow> 16.10 beta1 is out, but not for Unity. If I install the Yakkety daily build and continue updating that, is this essentially running the same software? as beta2 etc get cut out, it's all coming from the same, yakkety branch, so I should eventually end up on the official 16.10 release, correct?
[12:26] <geirha> Also, have you installed nvidia drivers manually?
[12:26] <geirha> blackflow: correct
[12:27] <geirha> blackflow: though #ubuntu+1 for support until it is released
[12:27] <Redbeardt> I don't even have ubuntu-deskop installed.. >_>
[12:27] <blackflow> geirha: ah yes, thanks.
[12:27] <BluesKaj> Redbeardt, Redbeardt I assume nvidia-prime is still installed
[12:27] <Redbeardt> BluesKaj: Yea
[12:28] <Redbeardt> BluesKaj: That's how I switch the GPUs
[12:28] <linuxperia> Hi All. I have a huge Problem with Ubuntu Desktop. everytime i try to start google-chrome from the command line with specific options Ubuntu Desktop ignores them which is wrong. However if i edit the local google-chrome.desktop file and add there the options to the exec line and start google chrome again from the command line without any arguments then it works! I need however to be able to...
[12:28] <BluesKaj> yeah
[12:28] <linuxperia> ...start google chrome from the command line with options otherwise bash scripts are broken in Ubuntu !!! How can i solve this broken startup of Application in Ubuntu Desktop ? I need somehow the possibility to tell ubuntu desktop to ignores everything ubuntu desktop specific and just execute the command line aka google-chrome --options....
[12:28] <geirha> Redbeardt: Well, did you switch desktop environment after installing ubuntu?
[12:28] <Redbeardt> geirha: Nah I've never changed anything like that
[12:29] <geirha> Then I'd install ubuntu-desktop again
[12:29] <blackflow> linuxperia: not sure I understand your question. You basically want to start google-chrome with specific --options? Why not just create a specific .desktop (launcher) file for it?
[12:29] <alkisg> linuxperia: that doesn't make sense... which "local google-chrome.desktop" are you referring to, in which path?
[12:29] <Redbeardt> geirha: What's it even do? It's 289 mb according to apt and it's not like I don't have a desktop environment at all.
[12:30] <geirha> It would be installed after a fresh install, so somehow you've uninstalled a package that has caused ubuntu-desktop to also be uninstalled
[12:30] <Redbeardt> geirha: Well that's odd
[12:30] <linuxperia> alkisg: /home/username/local/share/applications/google-chrome.desktop
[12:30] <geirha> ubuntu-desktop is an "empty" package that doesn't contain anything interesting in itself, but it depends on all the packages required for the default ubuntu desktop
[12:30] <geirha> so installing it makes sure all those other packages are installed
[12:31] <alkisg> linuxperia: how was that created? google-chrome gets installed to /opt normally
[12:31] <Redbeardt> geirha: I kinda doubt that's causing my problem with my Nvidia GPU though given that I can use Ubuntu just fine with my Intel GPU selected.
[12:31] <BluesKaj> Redbeardt, did you check the recommended nvidia gpu driver and intel gpu driver
[12:31] <Redbeardt> geirha: I'm installing it anyway though.. So we'll see.
[12:32] <Redbeardt> BluesKaj: According to ubuntu-drivers devices, the recommended is apparently nvidia-370, which I've already tried with no effect. Same goes with 367. I'm back on 361 now which is where I started.
[12:32] <linuxperia> alkisg: blackflow: it can easy be proved that Ubuntu Desktop Breaks Shell Scripts. Example try to start Google Chrome like this from command Line  => google-chrome --user-agent="TEST BROWSER" It will not work !!! However if you change the local application file to have same command line it works
[12:33] <V7> Hey
[12:33] <blackflow> linuxperia: "Ubuntu Desktop" does not break shell scripts :)
[12:33] <V7_> So .. now I'm from Windows telling you taht WiFi is working WELL !
[12:33] <alkisg> linuxperia: what is the output of this? "which google-chrome"
[12:34] <linuxperia> alkisg hmmm i installed it using apt-get install google chrome could be maybe i used a ppa from launchpad
[12:34] <linuxperia> stable version 52
[12:34] <blackflow> linuxperia: I'm not sure what you're talking about with that. but anyway, it should be easy to copy the default .desktop file to your ~/.local/share/applications  and adjust it with custom options
[12:34] <linuxperia> sorry apt-get install google-chrome
[12:34] <V7_> so ... bekks are you here ?
[12:34] <blackflow> linuxperia: just name it differently.
[12:35] <BluesKaj> Redbeardt, you've treid 367 and 370 since the issue or before it?
[12:35] <Redbeardt> BluesKaj: since
[12:35] <BluesKaj> ok
[12:35] <linuxperia> blackflow this is not a solution as it is not variable for shell scripts
[12:35] <alkisg> linuxperia: what is the output of this? "which google-chrome"
[12:35] <blackflow> linuxperia: what shell scripts?
[12:36] <linuxperia> alkisg: /usr/bin/google-chrome its a ppa
[12:37] <linuxperia> blackflow: shell script to automated start google chrome the way i like it !
[12:37] <pr_> hey friends my keyboard is not working properly there is wrong mapping of keys eg `=` is now 8=
[12:37] <geirha> linuxperia: Are you trying to run it from cron or at or something? if so, that won't work, since cron and at don't know about your X server
[12:37] <alkisg> linuxperia: and the output of this? apt policy google-chrome*
[12:37] <linuxperia> and it does not work becouse of ubuntu desktop
[12:37] <blackflow> linuxperia: so why not call that script from the Exec line of your custom .desktop file?
[12:38] <blackflow> linuxperia: you're convinced "ubuntu desktop" does not work, but it works just fine, you're just doing something wrong, and we can help figuring out what.
[12:38] <geirha> You just have to let go of the incorrect diagnosis you're so convinced of
[12:39] <linuxperia> blackflow: ohh my good becouse its not variable to call a fixed desktop file with fixed options from a shell script with variable application options ?!
[12:39] <alkisg> linuxperia: afaik, google-chrome is not provided by PPAs, only by google's own repository
[12:39] <blackflow> linuxperia: I don't understand what you're talking about. Can you give an example of what exactly you're trying to achieve?
[12:41] <linuxperia> alkisg apt policy is not availble as options! do you have other command line to try ?
[12:41] <Redbeardt> Guess I better start putting together a post for AskUbuntu
[12:41] <alkisg> linuxperia, apt-cache policy google-chrome*
[12:43] <linuxperia> alkisg: http://apaste.info/aWD
[12:44] <linuxperia> its from google itself
[12:44] <alkisg> linuxperia: right, it's not a ppa
[12:44] <alkisg> linuxperia: and are you running this from gnome-terminal, or from the dash (unity)?
[12:45] <linuxperia> but it looks like its heavy tailored for ubuntu desktop which in turn breaks caling this application from the command line
[12:45] <linuxperia> i am using the ubuntu terminal
[12:45] <linuxperia> the desktop ubuntu terminal
[12:45] <blackflow> it doesn't break anything, you're just using it wrong.
[12:46] <linuxperia> blackflow: its not possible to call the installed app from the command line with options in ubuntu desktop its a fact!
[12:46] <alkisg> linuxperia: google-chrome-stable.deb is not targeting ubuntu only. Anyway, what happens if you type: /usr/bin/google-chrome <parameters>, does it work with an absolute path?
[12:46] <blackflow> linuxperia: it's not a fact :) what exactly are you trying to achieve? can you give specific example?
[12:47] <alkisg> linuxperia: also, can you reproduce the issue with any other application except for google-chrome, which is supported by google and not ubuntu?
[12:47] <alkisg> E.g. with chromium-browser?
[12:47] <linuxperia> alkisg: will try it out just a second!
[12:47] <geirha> linuxperia: Show some example line that fails?
[12:48] <geirha> (along with any error messages)
[12:48] <blackflow> ((preferably in a pastebin))
[12:49] <alkisg> He claims that he puts `google-chrome --user-agent=xx` in a shell script of his, and google-chrome then is then launched with the parameters of his local/applications/google-chrome.desktop file Exec line, which doesn't make any sense (unless the /usr/bin/google-chrome wrapper is really screwed up - I don't have it installed to check)
[12:49] <linuxperia> will report back as soon for the full path. for every one that want try it out itself just install the official google-chrome deb from google then try to call google-chrome --user-agent="TEST" from the command line and it will not work as everything is ignored becouse of the desktop file in the local dir
[12:49] <geirha> "everything is ignored"? what is "everything" ?
[12:49] <blackflow> linuxperia: then you're not calling the actual bin, but some wrapper executable. absolute paths should be used.
[12:49] <linuxperia> the options you want launch the app
[12:50] <linuxperia> well tell this the shell scripts ...
[12:50] <blackflow> linuxperia: please give EXACT command line you're trying out, and please use ABSOLUTE paths.
[12:50] <linuxperia> i have gave the exact command line allready!
[12:50] <blackflow> not with absolute paths
[12:50] <geirha> linuxperia: what does ''type google-chrome'' output?
[12:51] <blackflow> linuxperia: you need to make sure you're calling the correct executable. if you're calling some shell script wrapper, it is quite possible the options are not passed on to the binary.
[12:51] <blackflow> linuxperia: that's why absolute paths.
[12:51] <linuxperia> google-chrome ist /usr/bin/google-chrome
[12:52] <linuxperia> blackflow: i just checked /usr/bin/google-chrome and its a shell script
[12:52] <linuxperia> one second
[12:52] <geirha> good, so it's using the right command, so no need for absolute path
[12:52] <mikatone> When trying to ssh get this output after login: This account is currently not available. Connection to tor closed.
[12:52] <alkisg> linuxperia: put that script to pastebin, and also try: google-chrome --version, and verify that it shows a version in your terminal
[12:53] <blackflow> linuxperia: there you go
[12:53] <blackflow> linuxperia: also, chromium does not have --user-agent option. Are you 100% sure that google-chrome does? maybe google-chrome --help will give more info?
[12:53] <linuxperia> here is /usr/bin/google-chrome shell script that is installed => http://apaste.info/S0E
[12:54] <linuxperia> blackflow: yeah user-agent exist in both chrome and chromium can confirm it
[12:54] <blackflow> linuxperia: I just checked, no such thing in chromium
[12:55] <linuxperia> blackflow: hmmm sorry but you are wrong!
[12:55] <blackflow> linuxperia: chromium-browser --help doesn't list it, the manpage doesn't list it, runnig chromium-browser with --user-agent="something" doesn't change the UA
[12:56] <_adb> chrome commandline flags are generally undocumented and subject to change at the dev's whim
[12:56] <linuxperia> i did test thus option buy calling it from the local desktop file and the user agent was changed . confirmed it by websites that show you the changed user agent
[12:56] <alkisg> linuxperia: ah, another thing. When you are running "google-chrome <params>", if you have a google-chrome window open, they are ignore and that window is reused. Did you know that?
[12:57] <blackflow> _adb: I guess that explains it
[12:58] <linuxperia> okey will try to call the bin file direct as suggested by alkisg instead by calling  shell script aka google-chrome which is the normal way
[12:58] <linuxperia> one moment
[12:58] <blackflow> linuxperia: not sure you have to, the shells cript passes on command line options through $@. I bet what _adb said is the case. did you test in a clean environment with on chrome running at the time?
[12:59] <_adb> also, be sure to close chrome completely between tests. if an instance is still running and you attempt to launch a new one, it may ignore your flags
[13:00] <_adb> (what's the objective? i got here late)
[13:00] <Redbeardt> bbl
[13:00] <BluesKaj> linuxperia, I fail to see what google-chrome shell scripts have to do with ubuntu btw
[13:00] <blackflow> linuxperia: okay, just tried with a clean session of chromium, it works from the command line. what _adb said it is, as I previously tried with an open session.
[13:00] <linuxperia> _adb: for every one that want try it out itself just install the official google-chrome deb from google then try to call google-chrome --user-agent="TEST" from the command line and it will not work as everything is ignored becouse of the desktop file in the local dir
[13:00] <alkisg> blackflow: I said that :)
[13:01] <blackflow> alkisg: okay, sorry, credit where credit is due. I guess I missed what oyu said :)
[13:01] <_adb> linuxperia: oh, cool, thanks
[13:02] <alkisg> _adb: He's reporting that running "google-chrome params" from a terminal ignores the params, and instead the params from his .local/applications/google-chrome.desktop Exec line are used. But it's possible that he just left a google-chrome window open.
[13:02] <_adb> ah, ok.
[13:02] <linuxperia> alkisg: hmm could not be true i have as first line killall google-chrome
[13:03] <alkisg> linuxperia: the application is called "chrome". While google-chrome is the wrapper and it's not running. Run `ps aux|grep chrome` to verify this.
[13:03] <linuxperia> ahh okey lets try
[13:04] <alkisg> linuxperia: also note that the script is using "exec -a", which means it will display a different name in ps
[13:04] <blackflow> it also passes on the command line options through $@, so...
[13:04] <alkisg> Run your killall command from a terminal to verify that it's working, before using it in your script
[13:06] <mikatone> Is this option available in ubuntu server when creating a user -s /usr/sbin/nologin user ?
[13:06] <mikatone> I can't see tat directory
[13:08] <linuxperia> alkisg: well i have a chrome process and no matter how much i execute sudo killall chrome it still exist maybe becouse of some other process also
[13:09] <linuxperia> could be that is allways reswapnd
[13:09] <linuxperia> the moment it get killed hmmmm
[13:09] <EriC^^> linuxperia: try killing it using the pid
[13:09] <linuxperia> with the standard options from the local desktop file
[13:09] <alkisg> linuxperia: what's the output of cat /proc/<pid-of-chrome>/cmdline
[13:10] <alkisg> You can see if a process is respawning if its pid changes
[13:10] <alkisg> If it's the same, you're just not using killall properly
[13:10] <landeros> someone here?
[13:10] <alkisg> (or pkill)
[13:10] <linuxperia> EriC^^: did killed the PID too but i really think its get reswapnd allways by a another active service with the standard options then
[13:10] <linuxperia> okey one moment
[13:11] <landeros> hey
[13:11] <alkisg> !ask
[13:11] <alkisg> landeros: ^
[13:12] <Redbeardt> Installing ubuntu-desktop had no effect on my issue, btw.
[13:12] <linuxperia> okey i can confirm it that chrome is respawning by a another service i am running so i have allways a active chrome process that prevent me then to use the options from the command line
[13:13] <linuxperia> damn
[13:13] <alkisg> linuxperia: so it's not a problem with ubuntu-desktop ;)
[13:14] <landeros> hi,its only ubuntu or general linux?
[13:15] <linuxperia> hoooooo why is it not possible to start chrome with another options when you have allready a existing chrome process ? will now try to shut down this respawning process and try to launch it from to command line. based on the reports here then it should work. alkisg one moment will just confirm itluence
[13:15] <_adb> landeros: this channel is for ubuntu support, but there will naturally be some overlap with more generic linux concepts
[13:20] <linuxperia> alkisg: okey i just rebooted my ubuntu desktop in a new cleaned session without starting anything. did a ps aux|grep chrome and it show me one active chrome process looks like ubuntu desktop on start load the chrome browser in stealth modus to start faster ...
[13:21] <alkisg> linuxperia: it's not ubuntu-desktop, it's the chrome developers :)
[13:21] <alkisg> linuxperia: ubuntu-desktop doesn't contain any code for chrome at all
[13:21] <a3gis> Hello! Anyone here familiar with PF? (the firewall)
[13:22] <linuxperia> when i try to kill it with sudo killall chrome it just get respawned with a different process id
[13:22] <linuxperia> oohhhhhhh my nerves
[13:22] <alkisg> linuxperia: maybe use chromium-browser instead? :)
[13:23] <linuxperia> yeahhh there must be something running in the background that i need to stop it
[13:23] <alkisg> linuxperia: what's the output of this? ps aux | grep chrome
[13:23] <alkisg> (pastebin)
[13:25] <blackflow> linuxperia: that sounds like malware :)
[13:25] <linuxperia> alkisg: http://apaste.info/Qrp
[13:26] <linuxperia> blackflow: its the official google package for ubuntu :-) need to find out what keeps caling this chrome process always that prevent me to start chrome with different options in ubuntu desktop
[13:27] <linuxperia> have the feeling like i work in windows now losing controll
[13:27] <linuxperia> bwaahh
[13:28] <BluesKaj> I doubt very much it's ubuntu desktop cuasing your problem
[13:29] <BluesKaj> causing
[13:29] <alkisg> linuxperia: I don't get it, if you see nothing in ps, why are you saying that it's running in the background?
[13:29] <linuxperia> i suppose you should all have the same problem when installing the official chrome package for ubuntu from google. speak having a running chrome process in background without able to kill it
[13:30] <linuxperia> all the time
[13:30] <alkisg> linuxperia: "official google package for ubuntu" means that it's a problem by google, not by ubuntu
[13:30] <alkisg> linuxperia: the same package is also used e.g. in debian
[13:30] <BluesKaj> linuxperia, IO run google chrome just fine here, but I don';t use shell scripts to set it up for my needs
[13:32] <linuxperia> BluesKaj: when you have google-chrome installed and run it with google-chrom from the command line do you still have the chrome process after killing it everytime with sudo killall chrome?
[13:32] <BluesKaj> linuxperia, I don't run it from the commandline , no need to
[13:33] <BluesKaj> linuxperia, let me try
[13:33] <linuxperia> well run it from the sise bar no problem just wanted be sure that you call the right browser
[13:34] <blackflow> linuxperia: iirc chrom(e\ium) has a settings options about keeping background processes running, and that's enabled, two checkboxed near the bottom of advanced settings. perhaps turning those off would help?
[13:36] <linuxperia> blackflow: thanks a lot will check it out. the chrome process is satrted however  right at booting of ubuntu desktop need to disable this as first
[13:37] <nedstark> chrome opens every tab and extension as a process and wants to run all the time
[13:38] <linuxperia> nedstark: ooohh baaadddd so this meand no possibility to start chrome with different options like a specific user agent
[13:39] <nedstark> yes you would need at least 2 processes for that
[13:40] <BluesKaj> linuxperia, chrome closes fine when the terminal is closed here
[13:41] <Fanlin> hi
[13:51] <linuxperia> BluesKaj: ahh okey thanks for confirmation. i can confirm now that i am able to set the user-agent for the google-chrome browser not sure what happend now but everything i tryed before it failed works now hmmmm
[13:52] <linuxperia> strange
[13:54] <blackflow> linuxperia: any specific reason you want google-chrome instead of chromium?
[13:58] <linuxperia> blackflow: not really beside the reason that i guess its google favorite product line. for ubuntu its the  unity desktop so i stick with what canonical and google favorite instead to use alternatives. by the way i am using ubuntu server in the google cloud and pay some good money hope this money comes to canonical and its developer
[13:59] <BluesKaj> blackflow, googe-chrome's embedded flashplayer works for starters , that's my reason
[13:59] <_adb> google-chrome also has better support for drm-protected media (amazon steaming, for example)
[14:00] <blackflow> linuxperia: I doubt there's any of that money going to canonical :)  though, google-chrome is a closed source version of Chromium, in fact it's Chromium with some patented codecs IIRC, or something like that. So unless you strictly need google-chrome, just use Chromium.
[14:00] <blackflow> BluesKaj: chromium's doesn't?
[14:00] <blackflow> and.... what is this... "flahs" you speak of? :D ;)
[14:00] <blackflow> *flash
[14:00] <blackflow> _adb: is that with widevine?
[14:00] <BluesKaj> it's unfortunate that HTML5 is slow to be adopted but that's our reality
[14:01] <_adb> blackflow: i think so? you can get chromium to do it, but it's convenient when things work out of hte box
[14:02] <BluesKaj> blackflow, video on some sites  still use flash and chromium can't play them
[14:02] <blackflow> BluesKaj: you can use chromium with pepperflash
[14:04] <zykotick9> BluesKaj: re: blackflow's comment, adding pepperflashplugin-nonfree to chromium will be "google's" flash
[14:04] <BluesKaj> blackflow, haven't had any luck with pepperflash , besides there's very little difference between the two other than chrome works on flash sites and chromium doesn't
[14:04] <linuxperia> BluesKaj: I have several over 50 USD Ubuntu Servers in the G-Cloud they sell it me. From my understand the should pay money to Canonicals as at the end its there Product. Would be surprised when they sell Ubuntu Server Images to Customers and Canonical and its Devs dont get anything. P.S. Maybe its becouse of this Patented stuff i want use Chrome he he he
[14:05] <blackflow> BluesKaj: shrug. The Chromium I use in Ubuntu with pepperflash works just fine.
[14:05] <linuxperia> ehh sorry message should go to blackflow
[14:06] <linuxperia> i guess i need some rest. my brain is on fire
[14:06] <blackflow> linuxperia: you do know that all that is open source and free to download? the only thing "payable" to Canonical is support and perhaps some specific service.
[14:06] <blackflow> I seriously doubt google pays anything to canonical, but I could be wrong.
[14:06] <linuxperia> yeah but ubuntu is registered mark to canonical
[14:07] <linuxperia> they cant sell ubuntu without paying them anything would not make sense
[14:07]  * BluesKaj shrugs as well,...to each his own I guess blackflow, but that's been my experience
[14:07] <linuxperia> its like selling coca cola
[14:08] <Redbeardt> Does anyone know if this line is of any significance "W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/i915/skl_guc_ver6.bin for module i915_bpo" it popped up while purging my nvidia drivers again
[14:09] <Cfhowlett> !quietirc
[14:09] <blackflow> linuxperia: are you referring to the recent demand by canonical from hosting companies to pay trademark royalties if they're offering Ubuntu?
[14:09] <bumblefuzz> how do I adjust the startup volume for ubuntu?
[14:10] <bumblefuzz> it always starts at 70% or higher
[14:10] <Metamorphosis> Hello. newbie here. does ubuntu support ArcGIS software? Google did not helped me with the issue
[14:11] <minimec> bumblefuzz: Adjust the sound volume and try 'sudo alsactl store'
[14:11] <Cfhowlett> Argis?
[14:11] <Redbeardt> Jesus I installed nvidia-current and it installed nvidia-304
[14:11] <Redbeardt> that's so OLD
[14:11] <minimec> bumblefuzz: maybe even use 'alsamixer' for the volume adjustment.
[14:12] <bumblefuzz> I can adjust the volume just fine
[14:12] <bumblefuzz> but every time I start up, the volume is back up again
[14:12] <blackflow> Redbeardt: which GPU? some older models are only supported by older drivers
[14:13] <Redbeardt> It's a 940M
[14:13] <minimec> bumblefuzz: Try to save current settings with 'sudo alsactl store', as mentioned.
[14:13] <bumblefuzz> ok, I did... we'll see if that workd
[14:13] <Redbeardt> I was running nvidia-361 until recently when my problem hit
[14:13] <minimec> bumblefuzz: Other option would be to create a script that sets the volume when starting the user session.
[14:14] <blackflow> Redbeardt: ah... that's definitely supported by the 361
[14:14] <blackflow> Redbeardt: what... problem, tho'?
[14:14] <linuxperia> blackflow: ahh did not know about this but they have all right to request trademark royalities especially from google. they just reported hughe profits thanks to growing cloud bussiness and canonical ubuntu server plays sure a important role in this as i only use ubuntu server images.
[14:14] <Redbeardt> blackflow: I did a routine software update a few days ago and now I get a blank login screen with sound.
[14:14] <Redbeardt> blackflow: It's fine if I use prime-select to switch to my Intel though, so it's purely a problem with the Nvidia.
[14:15] <blackflow> Redbeardt: hm..
[14:16] <Exterminador> Xubuntu installed successfully
[14:16] <blackflow> linuxperia: well, just using the distro is not grounds for any royalties or payment. and google is not "selling ubuntu server images". it's selling it's platform and offering Ubuntu for (free) installation.
[14:18] <blackflow> linuxperia: https://twitter.com/olesovhcom/status/744609239075799044
[14:18] <blackflow> canonical can only enfornce payments for trademark (ab)use.
[14:19] <Redbeardt> time for another attempt, rebootin'
[14:21] <linuxperia> blackflow: hmmm okey the free offering is a argument but at the end everything is automated. its not like you download the ubuntu server image itself and install it. its incoparted in there sell products. its a one click product solution they offer. its not like here is your hardware server and for the server you have to look itslef. they host the images itself and use the canonical...
[14:21] <linuxperia> ...trademark on there website
[14:22] <linuxperia> its like offering coca cola in a restaurant without to pay money to coca cola itself
[14:22] <linuxperia> when a customer choose to have a coca cola drink
[14:23] <linuxperia> even if coca cola is free elsewhere when you as business sell coca cola in a bottle
[14:23] <OerHeks> guys, move the trademark talk to #ubuntu-discuss or offtopic please
[14:23] <linuxperia> okey
[14:26] <jsparks> hi, having troubles with ftp not matter what only the user that installed the system can login... either vsftpd / proftpd any ideia please share
[14:27] <OerHeks> jsparks, on what ubuntu version and what guide did you follow?
[14:29] <jsparks> OerHeks thank you, I've installed first vsftpd and everything by default should let me in tryed several aproaches by only 530 as response
[14:29] <jsparks> than I tried proftpd and same
[14:30] <Redbeardt> Well that didn't work
[14:30] <osidsnjdnvd> hi please give me command to register my nickname
[14:30] <osidsnjdnvd> ?
[14:31] <Mathisen> currupipi, /msg nickserv register
[14:31] <OerHeks> !register
[14:31] <jsparks> created several users with all sort of options etc tried first enter via ssh then via ftp nothing every user is denied except for the user that installed the system
[14:31] <Redbeardt> Is there supposd to be an xorg.conf file in my /etc/X11/ directory?
[14:31] <Redbeardt> Coz there isn't
[14:31] <OerHeks> Redbeardt, nope, but you can make one if you need it
[14:31] <currupipi> /msg nickserv register papagayo kewinmaxplay19283@gmail.com
[14:31] <jsparks> OerHeks this is letting me really annoyed an logs say nothing except for 530 bit
[14:31] <Redbeardt> How do I know whether I need it? Heh :P
[14:32] <jsparks> *and
[14:32] <OerHeks> jsparks, what guide did you follow?
[14:32] <currupipi> hi
[14:32] <currupipi> do u give help on here about phones?
[14:32] <jsparks> Í haven't followed no guide I can install vsftpd for example
[14:32] <Redbeardt> I don't understand how linux fits together very well. I just see people putting graphics card information in this xorg.conf file, and I wonder whether it coudl help me.
[14:32] <jsparks> it is fairly simple
[14:32] <OerHeks> currupipi, join #ubuntu-touch for phone
[14:32] <OerHeks> jsparks, installing is simple, setting up an user is simple too ..
[14:33] <Mathisen> currupipi, and change your password you just sent it to the channel.. and if you use in on other sites email,fb whatever change it there to
[14:34] <jsparks> OerHeks ok i need to solve this I've lost an huge amount of time on this can you help me please?
[14:34] <OerHeks> old tutorial but should work https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-set-up-vsftpd-on-ubuntu-12-04
[14:34] <jsparks> OerHeks I'm now using proftpd
[14:34] <currupipi> Mathisen ok no problem, is there any other channel for android phones?
[14:35] <currupipi> i have a samsung galaxy a5 and when i restart it it throws me a message in red
[14:35] <currupipi> saying "recovery is not seandroid forcing
[14:35] <Redbeardt> Well I guess with the xorg.conf I'll try rebooting .. again!
[14:35] <Redbeardt> bbl
[14:35] <jsparks> OerHeks proftpd removed
[14:35] <Fanlin> hi
[14:35] <currupipi> Cannot join channel (+r) - you need to be identified with services
[14:35] <currupipi> why status says me that?
[14:36] <currupipi> how do i identify myself
[14:36] <zykotick9> !register | currupipi
[14:36] <currupipi> do i need to check my inbox?
[14:37] <hudnix> After last round of updates, nvidia driver no longer works. I can log in with nouveu driver, but then the windows are messed up. If I install any nvidia driver from the list, I can't login
[14:37] <Redbeardt_> Well, that didn't work..
[14:38] <Redbeardt_> Christ I wish I understood how to actually follow the clues and drill down to the problem. I'm just wading about in the dark here.
[14:38] <Redbeardt_> Add a file here, install a firmware there, try some different drivers, try a different kernel version, etc. etc.
[14:42] <hudnix> Does anyone know where the xorg.cong file is anymore? I don't have one in /etc/X11 or in /usr/share/X11
[14:43] <akik> hudnix: it's not created by default any more. its location is in /etc/X11 if you create it, it will be used
[14:43] <zykotick9> hudnix: it doesn't typically exist by default anymore... it's not usually required.
[14:43] <jsparks> OerHeks tail -f log outputs: https://gist.github.com/fccpt/727174bd9908469d0819e2eacfffb453
[14:43] <hudnix> Thanks
[14:43] <akik> hudnix: there are snippets of xorg configuration in /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/
[14:44] <hudnix> akik: thanks
[14:45] <Redbeardt_> What does the xorg.conf file do?
[14:46] <zykotick9> Redbeardt_: it's the config file for xorg (the gui foundation)
[14:46] <Redbeardt_> I figured that much >_<
[14:48] <jsparks> OerHeks now even the user that installed the system can login so any ideia?
[14:49] <jsparks> OerHeks *can't, sorry
[14:52] <uotzap> Hey, guys
[14:52] <uotzap> How do I start a live usb in uefi mode?
[14:53] <EriC^^> uotzap: try esc when the laptop boots then boot options then uefi usb
[14:54] <pyroall123> hi
[14:54] <pyroall123> I would like to run xscreensaver-command -lock after the system starts, any idea? I need to run a server but the needed programm needs a desktop, however I dont want the system exposed.
[14:56] <uotzap> EriC^^: I know this part but my live usb just boot in csm mode :(
[14:56] <blackflow> pyroall123: xscreensaver is no longer used, there's a dbus/logind based lock iirc
[14:57] <uotzap> I'm trying to install Ubuntu in dual boot with Windows 10, because my wife can't use just Linux
[14:59] <jsparks> OerHeks thanks man great help finally I made it on my own
[14:59] <jsparks> greets
[15:03] <pyroall123> blackflow: can you further help to realise a lock screen after book
[15:03] <pyroall123> thank you
[15:05] <ovrflw0x> sup folks what are your problems? ubuntu oracle is here!
[15:05] <blackflow> pyroall123: sorry, I don't understand.
[15:06] <raymondillo>  /quit
[15:10] <pyroall123> backflow: after my system boots it will start LXDE and log in the user. However I want to lock the screen direkly after start/reboot.
[15:11] <pyroall123> i tried to run "xscreensaver-command -lock" in /etc/profile but is does not work
[15:12] <blackflow> pyroall123: and what happens after the user is logged in? I'm not sure I understand this, do you have a program that just needs Xorg, or does it need a full blown, user session desktop?
[15:13] <blackflow> pyroall123: does it help if you configure locking via regular settings? the lowest time period is after 30 seconds
[15:14] <blackflow> pyroall123: alternatively, after login something must start your program, correct? so that can be a script where you lock manually. check this out: http://askubuntu.com/questions/457204/how-can-i-lock-the-screen-using-the-new-lockscreen-from-the-command-line
[15:15] <pyroall123> I try to run the owncloud clint, but unfortunately it need a running desklop as far I understood.
[15:16] <blackflow> pyroall123: there's owncloudcmd for cli based client
[15:17] <bumblefuzz> there are two install downloads for a program I'm looking at
[15:18] <bumblefuzz> they look otherwise identical but one of them has (glibc 2.3) written next to it
[15:18] <bumblefuzz> what difference does that make?
[15:18] <blackflow> bumblefuzz: what programs?
[15:18] <OerHeks> bumblefuzz, a lot. what program are you talking about?
[15:18] <bumblefuzz> bittorrent sync
[15:18] <pyroall123> blackflow, ok thank you. I will give the owncloudcmd a try
[15:19] <bumblefuzz> https://getsync.com/platforms/desktop/
[15:19] <bumblefuzz> how do you decide between the linux downloads?
[15:20] <OerHeks> bumblefuzz, don't choose, let ubuntu grab the right package, recent tutorial http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2016/02/howto-install-bittorrent-sync-from-its-official-repository/
[15:21] <bumblefuzz> but when I try to sync using that, it tells me it's out of date
[15:21] <rojo> hello
[15:21] <OerHeks> if so, contact the maintainer of that package
[15:23] <V7> Guys ... I still have troubles with my WiFi connection
[15:23] <V7> WiFi adapter connected to WiFi router, but no connection after 3-5 minutes
[15:24] <antimist> Um, help required on installed the Hardware EnableMent Stack Security Upgrades
[15:24] <antimist> I get conflicts whenver I try to install
[15:24] <antimist> on XUbuntu 14.04
[15:25] <antimist> it says: conflicts libegl1-mesa and the rest
[15:25] <blacknred0> is there a way to export only uncorrupted files from a tar file without having to specify each one to be skip?
[15:27] <V7> Guys ? Noone had this isse ?
[15:27] <V7> issue *
[15:27] <MonkeyDust>  blacknred0 maybe the people in #bash can help you with that
[15:28] <jmadero> hi all - I've been having dramatic differences in wifi speed between Linux and Windows/Android - I get about 1/6th the speed results
[15:28] <jmadero> 3-4 Mb/s in Linux, 20-22 on Android/W7
[15:29] <ovrflw0x> sub thugs
[15:29] <ovrflw0x> sup
[15:29] <ovrflw0x> jmadero, it's the driver
[15:29] <ovrflw0x> jmadero, you must be using opensource driver
[15:29] <jmadero> ovrflw0x: any solution? I've seen a variety of suggestions online and none work
[15:30] <ovrflw0x> jmadero, use the driver of the manufacturer
[15:30] <jmadero> does intel have a manufacturer driver?
[15:30] <zach2825> hi, im not sure if this is the right place for this questions. but, in my htaccess im trying to specify the php version to use like this url says to do https://www.siteground.com/kb/how_to_have_different_php_versions/ but its not working, do i need an apache module or something?
[15:31] <ovrflw0x> jmadero, sure look at intel site
[15:31] <jmadero> ovrflw0x: not sure what I was thinking, it's a broadcom chipset and I'm using the STA driver
[15:31] <jmadero> which from my understanding is not the open source driver
[15:32] <ovrflw0x> jmadero, what exact model wifi card you got?
[15:32] <jmadero> trying to find that out now
[15:32] <jmadero> 04:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g LP-PHY
[15:33] <ovrflw0x> jmadero, http://askubuntu.com/questions/11993/how-do-i-install-bcm4312-wireless-drivers
[15:34] <jmadero> yes - I have STA installed already
[15:34] <ovrflw0x> jmadero, is it newest version?
[15:34] <jmadero> whatever is with 14.40
[15:35] <jmadero> I'm going to try the other driver really quick (the open source one) to compare results
[15:35] <ovrflw0x> jmadero, https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2190925
[15:35] <ovrflw0x> bye now
[15:49] <V7> Hello
[15:49] <V7> I've tried to look up for this issue all day, but nothing
[15:49] <V7> Asking last time
[15:51] <V7> Issue: Connecting to WiFi and all works, but after 3-5 minutes internet doesn't work. Connection to WiFi exists, but nothing pings and also I can't load a router page.
[15:51] <V7> Tried on Windows, same laptop and all works.
[15:51] <V7> Also that started after I've installed 16.04 LTS
[15:52] <SchrodingersScat> V7: what card do you have?
[15:52] <V7> SchrodingersScat: 1 sec
[15:52] <Redbeardt> Well this is weird. I just noticed that something is deleting my xorg.conf whenever I change it.
[15:53] <V7> SchrodingersScat: Should I type lspci ?
[15:53] <V7> SchrodingersScat: Network controller: Intel Corporation Centrino Ultimate-N 6300 (rev 35)
[15:54] <V7> Driver iwlwifi
[15:55] <V7> Before 16.04 there was 14.04 and all worked.
[15:56] <faulkes> exit
[15:56] <|WaV|> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=798036 There is bug in konversation 1.6 which is fixed in 1.6.2 regarding QCA support. is there anyway to get the new version via apt-get? Ive tried building from source but i get an endless amount of errors from cmake.
[15:56] <Redbeardt> Well, I'm at my wit's end so I finally put my post up on AskUbuntu if anyone wants to have a bash at it. https://askubuntu.com/questions/817504/16-04-01-lts-blank-login-screen-w-sound-after-recent-routine-software-update
[15:57] <AndChat|326081> Rn
[16:01] <jmadero> okay done with that test - getting 1/6th speed wifi in ubuntu vs. Android/W7, no difference between open and STA driver
[16:02] <jsparks> guys can't install smbclient getting this error under 14.04 http://pastebin.com/QFKiYMSq
[16:03] <V7> SchrodingersScat: I've send a message to ilw@linux.intel.com, so ... maybe they'll help ..
[16:03] <jmadero> jsparks: have you been messing around with your repos?
[16:04] <_adb> is there a way to get setxkbmap options to stick around after unplugging/plugging in a keyboard?
[16:04] <V7> SchrodingersScat: Thank you for trying
[16:04] <SchrodingersScat> V7: sorry, was just trying to get further detail, hoping maybe someone would have an idea
[16:04] <SchrodingersScat> !details
[16:05] <_adb> i've got setxkbmap -option ctrl:nocaps, but my keyboard cord is touchy, so it keeps going back to the default layout
[16:05] <jsparks> most probably yes jmadero
[16:05] <V7> SchrodingersScat: Yeah I understood ... so I can give you all need information if you want !
[16:05] <jmadero> jsparks: then you'll have to resolve that.....it's not recommended to screw with repos if you're not sure what you're doing
[16:06] <jmadero> jsparks: check to see if you have extra repos in /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[16:06] <jsparks> jmadero look It might happened by mistake
[16:07] <jmadero> jsparks: yeah sorry - not judging ;) just saying that there's not much anyone here can do if you're installing additional repos that have newer/incomplete binaries
[16:07] <jsparks> jmadero can i restore repos
[16:08] <V7> So SchrodingersScat do you need any information ?
[16:08] <jmadero> jsparks: you can purge them, but if you have installed software from those repos you could screw up your system
[16:08] <SchrodingersScat> V7: does anything show up in logs when it loses connection?  like maybe dmesg or etc?
[16:08] <jsparks> i get that but by now only used ondeij php etc
[16:09] <jsparks> jmadero *ondrej
[16:09] <jmadero> jsparks: that's not the issue, the issue is that you could have packages installed that conflict with default repos, when you purge a repo you could screw stuff up
[16:09] <jmadero> just running base system you have thousands of packages installed
[16:09] <V7> SchrodingersScat: I though about it ... I need to get by connecting to WiFi, but if I start to check that I'll lose connection to you :D
[16:09] <jmadero> jsparks: what do you have in that directory I asked about
[16:09] <jmadero> /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[16:10] <SchrodingersScat> V7: true, so may need to gather that later, or connect to irc via a more stable machine?  can you have both wired and wireless so your irc will stay up then watch the wireless struggle?
[16:10] <jsparks> jmadero understand so what's my best expectations here?
[16:10] <jsparks> jmadero 1 sec
[16:10] <SchrodingersScat> jsparks: and you likely added the owncloud repo? if so which?
[16:10] <V7> SchrodingersScat: I'll connect via mobile to irc
[16:10] <V7> So ... I'll be there after 5 mins or earlier
[16:10] <SchrodingersScat> V7: might be hard to pastebin like that, but whatever you need to do.
[16:11] <jsparks> SchrodingersScat no I havent'
[16:11] <jsparks> I added it by wget and tar
[16:11] <SchrodingersScat> ok
[16:11] <jsparks> jmadero http://pastebin.com/C2ppN38y
[16:11] <jsparks> SchrodingersScat no problem :D
[16:12] <jsparks> this system is problematic from long time too many experiences :D
[16:12] <jmadero> jsparks: .... so I can give you adivce, but it might break everything
[16:13] <jmadero> clearly those are related to your problem
[16:13] <jsparks> lol
[16:13] <jmadero> there is no need to install repos for mysql....ever
[16:13] <jsparks> k
[16:14] <jsparks> so now perhaps i can add smbclient by hand?
[16:14] <greenleaf> hi
[16:14] <jmadero> jsparks: that would be miserable
[16:14] <jsparks> I know that
[16:15] <jsparks> I guess I will  sudo rm /etc/apt/sources.list
[16:15] <jmadero> my recommendation is get rid of those repos
[16:15] <jmadero> sudo rm /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*
[16:15] <jmadero> sudo apt-get update
[16:15] <OerHeks> use ppa-purge, removing the lists does not reverse packages
[16:16] <OerHeks> and you end up, adding the ppa again and use ppa-purge :-D
[16:17] <jsparks> jmadero still the same
[16:18] <jsparks> I need original /etc/apt/sources.list
[16:19] <jmadero> yes you do - at this point it's likely your repo is just screwed, try what OerHeks said
[16:20] <_V7> SchrodingersScat I'm here from mobile
[16:21] <nedstark> jsparks, this will let you generate a sources list https://repogen.simplylinux.ch/
[16:22] <OerHeks> his sourceslist is not changed, ubuntu puts repos in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ folder
[16:23] <jmadero> OerHeks: unless he manually added :-b
[16:23] <jmadero> in my early linux days I'd do that so...it's possible
[16:23] <jsparks> nedstrak I've done it here  https://repogen.simplylinux.ch/generate.php
[16:23] <OerHeks> I hope not
[16:24] <jsparks> yes it's about the same I've deleted the list updated it seems fine lets install the package
[16:24] <jmadero> ....deleted the list? then you have no repos??
[16:24] <jmadero> dangit, I can't for the life of me get decent wifi speeds in Linux.....
[16:25] <OerHeks> deleting a added repo list will only work, if that repo never contained packages for your ubuntu version.
[16:25] <jsparks> yes and finished to install smbclient
[16:25] <jsparks> :D
[16:25] <jsparks> I've added only universe and not so much
[16:25] <jmadero> nice
[16:26] <jmadero> now solve my wifi issue :-b
[16:26] <jsparks> lol
[16:27] <jsparks> jmadero I'm really bad linux user I barely understand how sticky bit works :D LOL
[16:28] <V7_> SchrodingersScat: you know ... it's strange, but ... I'm connected to mobile tethering WiFi hotspot and after 5 mins it works well
[16:28] <jmadero> we're all here to learn
[16:28] <V7_> Continue watching
[16:29] <SchrodingersScat> V7_: hmm, k
[16:30] <jsparks> jmadero ;) that is true
[16:30] <jsparks> as always thank you very much
[16:33] <orion> Hi. On Xenial which service do I need to restart to pickup changes to /etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf?
[16:34] <johnharris85> Anyone got any suggestions for this issue? http://askubuntu.com/questions/815558/upstart-logs-dont-exist
[16:34] <jsparks> jmadero what is the problem with your wifi?
[16:34] <jmadero> jsparks: way slower speeds compared to Windows or Android
[16:35] <jsparks> drivers
[16:35] <jsparks> whats your device?
[16:36] <jmadero> jsparks: I've tried multiple drivers
[16:36] <OerHeks>  BCM4312 .. not the best supported wifi device, this is linux wide, not just ubuntu
[16:36] <jsparks> ok then what your device ;)
[16:36] <jsparks> that broadcom ?
[16:36] <OerHeks> but you should know this by now, this is not the 2nd day you try to fix speed
[16:37] <jmadero> OerHeks: indeed, just trying to see if there is some fix that I haven't tried yet - a ton of suggestions online
[16:37] <jsparks> jmadero lshw -C network
[16:37] <jsparks> jmadero product?
[16:38] <jmadero> jsparks: OerHeks already said, BCM4312
[16:38] <jsparks> I get that but need to confirm please
[16:38] <jmadero> trying another solution, brb
[16:39] <jmadero> how can bcmwl-kernel-source not be installed when I'm using b43 driver....
[16:41] <jsparks> jmadero have you compiled from source?
[16:41] <jsparks> have tested speed from terminal?
[16:43] <jsparks> jmadero i know you're ahead of me but sometimes little things escape and when you know too much tend to forget simple stuff, anyway I leave with this link perhaps you have read it anyway has plenty of information on the subject happy speeds :D
[16:43] <jsparks> http://askubuntu.com/questions/55868/installing-broadcom-wireless-drivers
[16:44] <somethingdope> Is there a reason not to update everything on ubuntu whenever the nag box shows up?
[16:45] <OerHeks> somethingdope, there is no partial update.. so what is your goal?
[16:46] <somethingdope> OerHeks, I dunno, up to date software that won't break?  basically right now I run "sudo apt update" then "sudo apt upgrade" I'm wondering if this is a bad practice
[16:47] <OerHeks> somethingdope, that comand is oke, if you keep packages holding back, use sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get full-upgrade
[16:48] <OerHeks> somethingdope, i would just use softwareupdates, it notifies when you need to reboot.
[16:48] <OerHeks> * this is not clear manually
[16:49] <somethingdope> OerHeks, I usually do use the nagbox thing.  Next question is it possible to check which if any of the incoming updates will require a system restart?
[16:49] <somethingdope> OerHeks, I know how to check after they are installed
[16:49] <TXRoadkill> usually, if it asks you for you PW it will require a restart
[16:50] <TXRoadkill> at least that's been my experience
[16:50] <OerHeks> somethingdope, Normally if the file /var/run/reboot-required  exists you should reboot.
[16:51] <OerHeks> but this is comandline, the gui shows a notification
[16:51] <somethingdope> OerHeks, Yeah I know that, I want to know if the incoming update will require a reboot before I upgrade
[16:52] <V7_> SchrodingersScat: Works well...
[16:52] <V7_> I can't understand ...
[16:52] <V7_> So... this one will be noticed ...
[16:53] <V7_> So ... other question. When I'm starting an Opera browser, system asks me for Ubuntu Keyring ...
[16:53] <OerHeks> An admin should test on a single machine.. too much work to check any update if you need to reboot or not.
[16:53] <V7_> Why ?
[16:54] <OerHeks> Opera wants to store keys in the future, so it wants access to your keyring, but it does not store something there, without your permission
[16:54] <OerHeks> and you can revoke access in keys & passwords
[16:54] <V7_> OerHeks: But I didn't set up my Keyring ..
[16:54] <somethingdope> OerHeks, seems stupid, I'm only admining one computer, my own
[16:54] <V7_> I've just installed Ubuntu (fresh)
[16:54] <OerHeks> V7_, well, that is what opera complaints about
[16:55] <V7_> OerHeks: Also that happens when I'm just start up my comp.
[16:55] <V7_> ... Ubuntu Keyring ...
[16:55] <OerHeks> somethingdope, beside a kernel it is hard to say, if a service needs full reboot to load things right, or finish updates.
[16:56] <somethingdope> OerHeks, but how does it know to create the file in /var/run then?  It seems the update should be able to identify itself as needing a reboot
[16:57] <OerHeks> not sure how ..
[16:57] <V7_> OerHeks: found one http://forums.opera.com/discussion/1873940/why-does-starting-opera-produce-an-unlock-login-keyring-error/p1
[16:58] <V7_> OerHeks: Do you know how to disable that if I didn't store password in browser ?
[16:59] <OerHeks> V7_, nope, opera is not my thing...
[17:00] <OerHeks> just use keyring, i see no reason not to.
[17:01] <SchrodingersScat> opera has never asked this of me ;(
[17:02] <V7_> SchrodingersScat: Me too ! So I'm asking ... 'cause this's strange to me too !
[17:02] <V7_> So ... I did this one http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2013/07/disable-unlock-login-keyring-ubuntu-13-04/
[17:02] <V7_> Now nothing apearing
[17:03] <V7_> nothing appears *
[17:03] <OerHeks> SchrodingersScat, that is you have setup keyring
[17:03] <SchrodingersScat> that's what that means?  And the only benefit of opera is if you like their proxy.
[17:04] <V7_> SchrodingersScat: You know ... that's weird ... WiFi still works ... I'm communicating with you via laptop
[17:04] <V7_> WiFi connected through Mobile Data -> HotSpot
[17:04] <SchrodingersScat> V7_: could just be quirky ;(  I have a couple cards that don't always play nice with every access point
[17:05] <V7_> SchrodingersScat: Might be ... but ...
[17:05] <V7_> iT'S WeiRD
[17:06] <SchrodingersScat> V7_: check logs if it happens again, you may see something relevant
[17:06] <V7_> SchrodingersScat: I'll do
[17:07] <V7_> Never ... never ... I tell you NEVER type down word "weird" into Google ...
[17:08] <somethingdope> How do you, in libre office, smoothly graph time ranges from pm to am?  An example would be if you were plotting when you went to sleep
[17:11] <V7_> somethingdope: https://ask.libreoffice.org/en/question/74084/how-to-concatenate-12-hr-time-and-the-text-am-or-pm/ ?
[17:12] <V7_> Also https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=30291&start=0
[17:12] <mich> any hardware experts here?
[17:12] <mich> my computer keeps shutting off
[17:12] <mich> I have no idea what's wrong!
[17:12] <enkei> check heatsink
[17:12] <fsociety> hello
[17:13] <fsociety> good night..
[17:13] <fsociety> may i qeustion??
[17:13] <elias_a_> !ask
[17:14] <somethingdope> V7_, Unfortunatly not, it properly recognizes it as a time already
[17:14] <fsociety_404> elias_a:hi..
[17:14] <mich> when I reboot, it shows several messages
[17:14] <mich> /dev/sda2:   Clearing orphaned inode
[17:15] <mich> means nothing right?
[17:15] <fsociety_404> how get install synaptic on ubuntu 16.04 lts?
[17:15] <jmadero> interesting, I'm trying to activate b43 driver but on reboot it reverts to wl driver
[17:15] <jmadero> fsociety_404: sudo apt-get install synaptic
[17:16] <mich> can anyone help/?
[17:16] <varaindemian> how does apt-get differ from apt? does the later one clean files after installation and stuff?
[17:16] <enkei> mich : try fsck disk check
[17:17] <BluesKaj> too may people watching Mr Robot :-)
[17:17] <somethingdope> varaindemian, apt is just an interface to apt-get and apt-cache with a few features like a progress bar baked over it
[17:18] <somethingdope> varaindemian, I use apt cause I like the progress bar but if you are gonna put it in a script use apt-get, apt-cache cause the interface for apt isn't stable apparently
[17:19] <absolutelyNoWayI> hi
[17:19] <varaindemian> somethingdope: I see
[17:20] <somethingdope> varaindemian, they are both interfaces over dpkg btw, not that it matters
[17:20] <blinchk> h
[17:21] <_V7> Hi absolutelyNoWayI
[17:23] <absolutelyNoWayI> I'm a noob to irc and just tryna get some good linux tips and tricks for both admin related stuff and hacking(for my job)
[17:23] <_V7> So ... you're hacker ?
[17:23] <absolutelyNoWayI> Legally, yes!
[17:24] <SchrodingersScat> !offtopic | absolutelyNoWayI this is specifically for ubuntu support, you can maybe try the offtopic or try !alias for other channels.  Feel free to idle though and maybe you'll see something interesting.
[17:24] <SchrodingersScat> it's !alis actually, not alias
[17:24] <V7_> absolutelyNoWayI: hacker with 2602:306:c5c7:a6c0:11cd:9a21:6e23:5f7d ip
[17:24] <V7_> :D
[17:24] <fsociety_404> thanks for solution
[17:25] <absolutelyNoWayI> hahaha _V7 that's why I'm a noob, but I'm defintely in the wrong channel according to SchrodingersScat and ubottu! Thanks!
[17:27] <Scooty> Has anyone experienced weird issues with virtual console and i915? For me, whenever I wake my screen from power saving sleep, xorg would be fine but all virtual consoles freeze on me
[17:27] <jmadero> if I'm considering replacing my wifi card in my laptop - what's a decent choice to get similar speeds/support as Windows?
[17:31] <LinuxGuy2020> I think this would be considered on topic since its an install question so here goes (I'm sure someone will complain anyways). I have two matching 120GB SSDs installed. I want to dual boot alongside Windows 7 for games. If I choose the install option to install along side Windows, will I get to choose the second physical drive for Ubuntu? Also will the GRUB install automatically ask me what to boot after rebooting? I've never dual boote
[17:31] <pubunt> help....computer does a hard reboot on me
[17:32] <pubunt> cannot figure out what is wrong.... anything I can try or test?
[17:32] <EriC^^> LinuxGuy2020: i doubt, try the "Something else" option
[17:32] <jmadero> yup - try something else option
[17:32] <LinuxGuy2020> ok
[17:32] <EriC^^> pubunt: have a look at /var/log/kern.log
[17:32] <LinuxGuy2020> thanks guys
[17:33] <Guest32644> Is there any relation between nice values and relative CPU share? Even if it requires some assumption like there are only two processes - just something more precise than - more nice is less cpu?
[17:33] <LinuxGuy2020> I might be asked for partition sizes maybe. What size should swap be? Same size as RAM?
[17:33] <EriC^^> LinuxGuy2020: yeah, if you want hibernation
[17:34] <LinuxGuy2020> ok
[17:34] <LinuxGuy2020> Sounds good thank you
[17:34] <pubunt> EriC^^, nothing is there?
[17:34] <pubunt> what program do I use to open it?
[17:34] <EriC^^> pubunt: cat
[17:35] <pubunt> nothing
[17:35] <pubunt> :(
[17:36] <pubunt> cat /var/log/kern.log
[17:36] <SchrodingersScat> Guest32644: as far as I know nice value is only priority.  do you maybe want something like taskset or cpulimit?
[17:36] <pubunt> ?
[17:36] <EriC^^> pubunt: yeah
[17:36] <pubunt> there's no output
[17:36] <EriC^^> pubunt: try ls /var/log/kern.log*
[17:39] <pubunt> log.1 has output
[17:39] <pubunt> but what to make of it?   dunno
[17:40] <jwr> I'm trying to sync music to an iphone using usb. i can see the iphone in `dmesg` when i connect it, but banshee doesn't show any device for it. the apple device support extension in banshee is enabled. anybody using banshee to sync an iphone?
[17:43] <pubunt> now what?  can anyone help?
[17:45] <assem> hey
[17:45] <assem> any ruby devs arount?
[17:45] <assem> fuck
[17:45] <SchrodingersScat> !ohmy | assem
[17:46] <assem> ok
[17:46] <assem> anyone with ruby knowledge?
[17:46] <SchrodingersScat> ask your question or check #ruby
[17:47] <pubunt> no one helps here
[17:47] <pubunt> are the forums any better?
[17:47] <pubunt> I would help you with ruby if I knew it
[17:47] <pubunt> ruby on rails, right?
[17:56] <hhee> hey
[17:56] <hhee> any nice app for linux for text snippets?
[18:02] <reisio> hhee: for what now?
[18:03] <hhee> reisio, for code
[18:06] <jwr> hhee: what do you want to do with those snippets?
[18:07] <hhee> jwr, well, mostly for storage most useful function, classes, and so on
[18:07] <reisio> hhee: for like, use in what?
[18:07] <reisio> an editor/IDE, or your shell, or what?
[18:08] <hhee> reisio, maybe in another application. i know there is "snippets" in mac (as separate app)
[18:09] <SchrodingersScat> hhee: git?
[18:09] <hhee> SchrodingersScat, cool idea! but now..
[18:09] <hhee> how
[18:09] <hhee> *
[18:09] <gweedo767> I am using nvidia-setrings to configure a multi monitor setup in 16.04 and saving the xorg conf out. Config looks good. But on reboot the settings arent applying. I have to re open nvidia-setrings and do it again. Thoughts?
[18:10] <reisio> hhee: I guess you just want a clipboard manager
[18:10] <reisio> hhee: ask your package manager about it
[18:10] <reisio> gweedo767: did you save to /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[18:11] <hhee> reisio, well, no. clipboard - store everything. but i want to store something like best
[18:11] <reisio> hhee: pardon?
[18:11] <hexhaxtron> Do you know which Desktop Environment is this one? http://img04.deviantart.net/6af9/i/2010/316/7/d/conky_style_2_and_tint2_by_br_lin-d32pul6.png
[18:11] <gweedo767> reisio: sure did
[18:11] <hhee> reisio, well, clipboard manager - store anything. i want to store selected classes, functinos and so on
[18:12] <OerHeks> hexhaxtron, gnome3 maybe. or Fedora .. or redhat, suse or mint ..
[18:13] <reisio> hhee: I'm pretty sure classes & functions are a superset of 'anything'
[18:14] <reisio> s/super/sub/
[18:15] <existenze> hey there
[18:15] <hexhaxtron> Olá! existenze
[18:15] <existenze> how do I know wich graphic card is being used for DE?
[18:16] <existenze> I have an intel and a nvidia (driver installed)
[18:16] <OerHeks> hhee, check out Eclipse, which has a really nice snippet manager
[18:17] <reisio> existenze: sudo lspci -k | egrep -i 'vga|in use' | grep -i vga -A 1
[18:17] <reisio> existenze: or read /var/log/Xorg*log
[18:18] <existenze> it's the intel
[18:18] <existenze> nice
[18:18] <zykotick9> reisio: is do actually required for that lspci command?  it doesn't seem to be...
[18:18] <hhee> OerHeks, got it, thx
[18:18] <zykotick9> reisio: s/do/sudo/
[18:19] <reisio> zykotick9: dunno, I don't keep track of where Ubuntu puts things
[18:19] <zykotick9> reisio: it's cool though - thanks.
[18:19] <reisio> in sane distros lspci is in sbin
[18:19] <existenze> Di I need to install some proprietary driver for intel graphics (or any other intel stuff)?
[18:19] <reisio> also in sane distros, lsblk -f doesn't need sudo, either :p
[18:19] <reisio> existenze: pretty unheard of
[18:20] <reisio> or at least, proprietary in the sense of binary
[18:20] <Bray90820> Can someone help me get ubuntu installed on an Intel Atom Z3735F every time I try to boot  the live USB i click try ubuntu without installing and then the screen goes black
[18:20] <zykotick9> reisio: well, i use a sane ditro... and lspci is in /usr/bin but "lsblk -f" works ;)
[18:20] <existenze> I mean anything other than the default drivers
[18:20] <reisio> there's a subtle but important difference between free software that's only developed by a single, for-profit organization, and free software that is developed by an open community
[18:20] <reisio> you could take mysql as an example
[18:21] <reisio> zykotick9: <shrug> no shared standard really, and that is fine
[18:21] <reisio> the actual problem is that sudo is widely misused these days
[18:21] <zykotick9> reisio: on that, we agree!
[18:21] <reisio> back in the days when sudo was not widely misused, you could just say 'run lspci', and if it didn't work, you'd know to swithc to root first
[18:21] <reisio> switch*
[18:22] <reisio> or use the full path, etc., etc.
[18:22] <johnharris85> Anyone got any suggestions for this issue? http://askubuntu.com/questions/815558/upstart-logs-dont-exist
[18:22] <reisio> Bray90820: ask ubottu about nomodeset
[18:22] <reisio> johnharris85: upstart isn't used by contemporaneous versions of Ubuntu, no?
[18:23] <reisio> s/contemporaneous/up-to-date
[18:24] <johnharris85> reisio, I'm on 14.04
[18:24] <johnharris85> systemd is used from 15 onwards I believe
[18:25] <reisio> why do you want to go debugging something that isn't even an issue if you were updating at a proper interval?
[18:25]  * reisio shrugs
[18:25] <EriC^^> 14.04 is still supported
[18:26] <johnharris85> reisio, huh?
[18:26] <johnharris85> 14.04 is an LTS
[18:26] <johnharris85> people only deserve support on the bleeding edge?
[18:26] <johnharris85> *shrugs*
[18:26] <elias_a_> Nope. Bleeding edge is for devs, teenagers and dummies. :P
[18:27] <reisio> the relevance of "LTS" aside
[18:27] <reisio> there is a newer LTS you could be using
[18:27] <reisio> there has been for a while
[18:27] <johnharris85> OK
[18:28] <enecon> I have 3 users in ubuntu and for some reason Mozilla and Skype dont work properly in one of them , any ideas why? Mozilla cant see the members here http://www.math.u-psud.fr/-Les-membres-167- and Skype so ofline some online contacts
[18:28] <johnharris85> how is that in anyway relevant to my question?
[18:28] <fucshiagirl> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICA19oKPi5I
[18:28] <reisio> and if you _ever_ plan on updating, then having spent time on this upstart issue will have been a waste of time
[18:28] <reisio> because upstart is gone
[18:28] <johnharris85> reisio, that is a spectacularly stupid point of view.
[18:28] <johnharris85> Even for the internet.
[18:28] <reisio> fucshiagirl: fuc-shi?
[18:28] <reisio> johnharris85: it's simple logic <shrug>
[18:28] <johnharris85> I think you need to re-do your logic course.
[18:29] <reisio> mmm
[18:30] <justMK> s
[18:31] <fucshiagirl> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-R-HBfkBTw
[18:41] <frenda> Hi there
[18:41] <frenda> I need a program to draw simple arrows/rectangulars/circles on screenshot! Do you know anyone?
[18:41] <Guest32644> \quit
[18:42] <dancingd3mon__> frenda
[18:42] <dancingd3mon__> on ubuntu https://github.com/ShareX/ShareX
[18:42] <OerHeks> libreoffice draw can do that
[18:43] <reisio> frenda: dia would work
[18:43] <OerHeks> or inkscape to make good vectorgraphics
[18:43] <OerHeks> dia indeed
[18:43] <OerHeks> tons of options
[18:43] <frenda> dia? isn't it a CLI app for making diagrams?
[18:43] <frenda> reisio: ^
[18:44] <reisio> no, it's a GUI app, for making diagrams (drawing simple arrows/rectangulars/circles)
[18:45] <frenda> Look, I need a simple app to put some arrows on screenshot to show some part of a screenshot! (I'll try dia)
[18:46] <OerHeks> http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/ubuntustudio-graphics http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/ubuntustudio-publishing
[18:47] <OerHeks> try and use what you like best, there is no single best
[18:48] <reisio> frenda: dancingd3mon__'s suggestion might be more what you want, assuming it works
[18:49] <dancingd3mon__> It does
[18:52] <enecon> I have 3 users in ubuntu and for some reason Mozilla and Skype dont work properly in one of them , any ideas why? Mozilla cant see the members here http://www.math.u-psud.fr/-Les-membres-167- and Skype so ofline some online contacts
[18:57] <frenda> dancingd3mon__
[18:57] <frenda> Isn't ShareX a Win app?
[18:58] <frenda> Here https://getsharex.com/ the download link gives an exe file!
[18:59] <dancingd3mon__> yeah i use it on windows but thought it had a linux release too
[19:00] <_adb> enecon: so things work correctly for two users, but fail for the third? have you checked user group membership?
[19:00] <rimdeker> Hey all, I'm running ubuntu 16.04 and for some reason it keeps crashing every now and then. I checked dmesg and see this with a few lines constantly repeating: ata2: exception Emask 0x10 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x4000000 action 0xe frozen
[19:01] <rimdeker> I thought it might be a disk failure until I realized I have no disk connected on ata2
[19:01] <gweedo767> reisio: yeah, tried a few more things...stuff I have set in xorg.conf is getting ignored on reboot
[19:02] <reisio> frenda: still, useful information: http://alternativeto.net/software/sharex/?license=opensource&platform=linux
[19:02] <reisio> gweedo767: 16.04 you said?
[19:02] <gweedo767> reisio: yes
[19:04] <reisio> gweedo767: if /etc/X11/xorg.conf is in place, you might find your xorg.conf.d and temporarily mv anything in there elsewhere
[19:05] <gweedo767> reisio: wher eis xorg.confg.d?
[19:05] <reisio> gweedo767: think it's in /usr/lib/X11 on Ubuntu
[19:05] <reisio> gweedo767: or /usr/share/X11
[19:05] <rimdeker> Can someone explain this to me? I don't even have a disk connected to ata2 http://paste.ubuntu.com/23099000/
[19:05] <gweedo767> reisio: /usr/share/X11 for the win
[19:06] <reisio> rimdeker: might just hit up ##linux
[19:06] <rimdeker> reisio: Thank you, will do
[19:09] <frenda> reisio: I found a good one called "HotShots"
[19:10] <reisio> gj
[19:10] <frenda> thx
[19:10] <reisio> wonder how it compares to the much more highly voted (on alternativeto.net) 'shutter'
[19:14] <frenda> Shutter is feature rich
[19:16] <airoplain> Hi how do I delete all lines from a file that don't contain a : with sed?
[19:18] <WaV> airoplain: http://ccm.net/faq/1451-delete-lines-from-a-file-using-sed
[19:18] <Mathisen> sed '/^:/ d'
[19:18] <Mathisen> try it out on a test file first
[19:19] <airoplain> thanks
[19:27] <therightman> hey
[19:27] <therightman> so I have a problem
[19:28] <geirha> grep : file > newfile
[19:28] <therightman> ubuntu seems to think that my screen is bigger than it actually is
[19:28] <therightman> I know this from when I take screenshots
[19:32] <szb> therightman: On first thought this sounds like a scaling problem with your graphics card... what GPU are you using and what driver is installed (open-source or proprietary)?
[19:32] <Guest696969> therightman, try and type your issues on one line to keep channel de-cluttered. Mention your make/model of monitor, video card and cable connection method.
[19:34] <eril-713> hi everyone??
[19:34] <ikonia> hello
[19:36] <enecon> I have 3 users in ubuntu and for some reason Mozilla and Skype dont work properly in one of them , any ideas why? Mozilla cant see the members here http://www.math.u-psud.fr/-Les-membres-167- and Skype so ofline some online contacts
[19:38] <reisio> enecon: what makes you think those are problems?
[19:38] <Redbeardt> Hey all. Me again with my GPU issue. I pulled some stuff out of dmesg after a boot attempt. Can anyone take a look at this pastebin and let me know if they have insights about it? http://pastebin.com/SjKadL0L
[19:38] <enecon> reisio isnt not being able to see a website on mozilla a problem by definition ?
[19:39] <Redbeardt> Particularly the 'this pci device is not a vga device'
[19:39] <reisio> enecon: no, but that's not what you just described, either
[19:39] <Redbeardt> I want to drill down further but I dunno where to go
[19:40] <enecon> reisio to me a program not doing what is suposed to do is a problem, what I describe I think is that mozilla doesnt show a part of the site
[19:41] <bekks> enecon: which might be caused by poor programming skills of the website author.
[19:42] <bekks> enecon: Or by some addons/plugins you are using.
[19:42] <enecon> bekks well the other users can see it ( on mozilla again )
[19:42] <bekks> enecon: so its most likely caused by some addon you are using.
[19:43] <enecon> bekks seems like they are the same
[19:43] <Bashing-om> Redbeardt: I can take a stab at this, see what I can see . in small steps . is the display manager satisfied ' cat /var/log/gpu-manager.log ' ? see whsare we go from here .
[19:43] <Archeus_> hello ppl
[19:43] <binaryDragon> Hello
[19:43] <bekks> enecon: seems like? Did you check? And did you check versions, too?
[19:43] <Archeus_> is there any way to copy a 7.8GB file to a hard disk
[19:43] <Archeus_> ?
[19:44] <bekks> Archeus_: sure, thats what the cp command is for.
[19:44] <Archeus_> it is a single 7.8 GB so cant make it smaller
[19:44] <enecon> bekks I checked from the add-on menu
[19:44] <Archeus_> how to use cp ?
[19:44] <szb> Archeus_: To a NTFS disk?
[19:45] <reisio> enecon: screenshot?
[19:45] <Archeus_> i thnk yes
[19:45] <Archeus_> btw how to use cp command ?
[19:45] <bekks> Archeus_: cp source target
[19:45] <Redbeardt> Bashing-om: I suppose I'd have to switch over to my Nvidia to get the info you need. I have to switch back to my Intel to log in successfully ATM.
[19:46] <Archeus_> how ?
[19:46] <szb> Archeus_: NTFS has a limit of 4GB for files, it's just how it was designed, I don't think the cp command will help you in this case!
[19:46] <enecon> reisio of what? add-ons? the site not beeing seen ?
[19:46] <bekks> Nothing but a smaller file will help at that point.
[19:46] <Archeus_> btw the hard disk is msdos type file
[19:46] <reisio> enecon: ...whatever it is you perceive as the problem
[19:46] <Redbeardt> Bashing-om: I'll brb in a few minutes with the output of that file
[19:46] <reisio> Archeus_: he means FAT, not NTFS, szb
[19:46] <akik> szb: you're thinking of fat32
[19:46] <Bashing-om> Redbeardt: That file is static .. should not matter what the graphic's set in use is .
[19:46] <bekks> enecon: a screenshot showing the sire region correctly, and one from your browser.
[19:47] <Redbeardt> Bashing-om: Oh.. Well then, I'll just pastebin it.
[19:47] <Archeus_> no its not FAT its msdos
[19:47] <enecon> bekks they are both from my browsers , just different users
[19:47] <enecon> ok wait
[19:47] <Redbeardt> Bashing-om: http://pastebin.com/c6QVWb14
[19:48] <Bashing-om> Redbeardt: Look'n .
[19:48] <szb> Archeus_: You could use the Archive Manager and create several smaller .rar or .zip-files and recreate the file once they are all copied!
[19:48] <bekks> Archeus_: then you need smaller files.
[19:48] <Archeus_> its a game file
[19:48] <szb> reisio, akik, Archeus_: whoops, yes! my bad, i was thinking of fat32!
[19:48] <bekks> Archeus_: The type of the file is irrelevant - it is too big.
[19:48] <Archeus_> tht cant get smaller than 7.8
[19:48] <Archeus_> ah
[19:48] <Archeus_> so no way to transfer it to another PC ?
[19:49] <Archeus_> thts got windows ?
[19:49] <bekks> 0827 214810 < szb> Archeus_: You could use the Archive Manager and create several smaller .rar or .zip-files and recreate the file once they are all copied!
[19:49] <bekks> Did you read that?
[19:49] <Archeus_> yes
[19:49] <Archeus_> but i dont understand how
[19:49] <bekks> Then you know the answer is "yes".
[19:49] <bekks> Open the archive manager, and create a new archive containing your file.
[19:50] <Lpzie> im gay
[19:50] <uRock> How do I add a default route? I have two network cards and am able to connect to devices on both networks at the same time, but only one of them has an internet connection.
[19:50] <Bashing-om> Redbeardt: Humm . a bit confusing here as " Has nvidia? no " and " How many cards? 1 " .. Is the nVidia card turned on in bios ?
[19:51] <bekks> uRock: look at "netstat -rn", to see wether there is a default route already.
[19:51] <Redbeardt> Bashing-om: It ought to be. I haven't touched the BIOS for months. I only suddenly had issues a few days ago when I downloaded a routine software update.
[19:51] <Archeus_> well
[19:51] <Archeus_> that file dosnt show in archive manager
[19:51] <Archeus_> its a .ggpk file
[19:52] <antipsychiatry> For ubuntu users : WHAT CAN U DO TO STOP MIND READING TECHNOLOGY??????????
[19:52] <uRock> bekks, it does right now, but gets lost when I connect to the second AP
[19:52] <bekks> Archeus_: the file extension is totally irrelevant.
[19:52] <Archeus_> means ?
[19:52] <bekks> uRock: look at "netstat -rn", to see wether there is a default route already.
[19:52] <Guest696969> antipsychiatry, wrong chan
[19:52] <bekks> Archeus_: that the file extension is irrelevant for a file being shown or not.
[19:52] <Archeus_> hmmm
[19:52] <Bray90820> Can someone help me get ubuntu installed on an Intel Bay Trail Atom Z3735F
[19:53] <enecon> http://i.imgur.com/r1IdkGg.png   http://i.imgur.com/w6xtEsp.png   reisio , bekks
[19:53] <uRock> bekks, Yes, it has it right now. I'll connect, but likely to drop this connection.
[19:53] <Bray90820> Every time I try to boot  the live USB i click try ubuntu without installing and then the screen goes black
[19:53] <uRock> bekks, it has both networks as a default route
[19:53] <szb> Archeus_: (1) Open the "Archive Manager". (2) Go to File > New Archive. (3) Tell it where the big file is located and choose a file type (.zip for example). (4) Click "other options" and check "split files into several archives" and give them a size (for example 1024 MB). (5) Now you'll get 8 files with around 1GB. (6) Copy all of them to the location where you want your file to be. (7) Select the first file, right-click "extract here"
[19:53] <szb> and the rest will be done automatically.
[19:53] <enecon> reisio bekks I just realized the lagnuadge parameter :(
[19:53] <Bashing-om> Redbeardt: K, then let us surmise that in the update process the graphic's driver for nVidia got broke, . What returns ' sudo lshw -C display ' ?
[19:54] <enecon> reisio bekks talking to you helped seeing it though so thanks :P
[19:54] <uRock> bekks, oddly enough if I already have a connection open on the AP with internet, then the right one is listed on top.
[19:54] <Redbeardt> Bashing-om: http://pastebin.com/3usqswNt
[19:55] <Redbeardt> Bashing-om: I wonder if that output would be different if I had the nvidia selected with PRIME though.
[19:55] <bekks> uRock: you cannot have more than one default route.
[19:55] <Guest696969> Bray90820, google nomodeset ubuntu
[19:55] <bekks> !nomodeset | Bray90820
[19:55] <uRock> bekks, 0.0.0.0         192.168.1.1     0.0.0.0         UG        0 0          0 wlp3s0
[19:55] <uRock> 0.0.0.0         192.168.254.1   0.0.0.0         UG        0 0          0 wlp2s0
[19:56] <Guest696969> ty bekks
[19:56] <bekks> uRock: Use a pastebin. More than one default gateway means that you will experience network issues.
[19:56] <Bashing-om> Redbeardt: Yes the output would be different .. as this is sky lake ! .. what release are you on ?.. 16.04 does support the sky lake graphic set .
[19:56] <uRock> bekks, where do I configure it manually?
[19:57] <varaindemian> after locking the screen it is not going black
[19:57] <Redbeardt> Bashing-om: I'm on 16.04.01 LTS
[19:57] <bekks> uRock: In a terminal, by setting the routes. If that all works, you have to manually configure your networking files.
[19:57] <Redbeardt> Bashing-om: I've been on 16 before it was LTS because 15 had such poor support for my hardware.
[19:59] <Bashing-om> Redbeardt: Think we want to change the graphic's driver ! .. see : https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2328993 . Have a read and we discuss this further .
[20:00] <Redbeardt> Bashing-om: Actually I've changed the driver 5 times. :< I was trying to find a version that would work.
[20:01] <Bashing-om> Redbeardt: 16.04 supports skulake . the recommnedation in the thread is to go with i965-va-driver for the Intel interface . Have you been there ?
[20:02] <donatas__> Is there a duck hunting game on ubuntu?
[20:02] <Redbeardt> Bashing-om: Hang on. I don't understand. Why do I need to change my intel interface driver when it's working just fine? It's the Nvidia one that's busted.
[20:03] <Bashing-om> Redbeardt: Because nvidia feeds through the Intel set .
[20:03] <Redbeardt> Bashing-om: Gah
[20:03] <Redbeardt> Bashing-om: Ok, I'll try this then
[20:04] <Redbeardt> Bashing-om: Oh. Apparently I already have the package 'i965-va-driver' installed.
[20:04] <Bashing-om> Redbeardt: As you only have the one monitor connection , then some means must exist to swich the video inputs through that one connection .
[20:05] <Bashing-om> Redbeardt: Presently used "  configuration: driver=i915_bpo  " .
[20:06] <Redbeardt> Bashing-om: Well.. The package is installed, so I suppose I have to kill off the 915 driver somehow?
[20:06] <binaryDragon> hakunna
[20:07] <binaryDragon> yes yes
[20:07] <binaryDragon> espanol?
[20:07] <Bashing-om> Redbeardt: Now we are both going places I have never been before . I have limited experience with Intel .
[20:07] <Redbeardt> Bashing-om: Haha damn.. I'm a little scared of busting up what IS working, which is booting with the Intel selected with PRIME.
[20:08] <_adb> !es | binaryDragon
[20:08] <Redbeardt> Bashing-om: There is this page though, https://01.org/linuxgraphics/downloads/intel-graphics-installer-linux-1.4.0 maybe I could give that a shot.
 Hiya. When I press backspace I get `12345 on my screen. Enter gives me ASDFG. What should I do?
[20:11] <somethingdope> why do so many people seem to use xfce over mate?
[20:11] <uRock> because they like it
[20:11] <somethingdope> uRock, I get that but are there any objective benifits?
[20:12] <Bashing-om> Redbeardt: I play catcvhup . post #8 from mc4man ( I totally trust ) . "There is nothing to configure. Run vainfo & see what it returns." . I am looking at yor latest link now .
[20:12] <uRock> somethingdope, Since both are very configurable, I'd say they grabbed what the like most. Both can be configured to do the same things.
[20:13] <Redbeardt> Bashing-om: The odd thing is that vainfo mentions the i965 driver, but lshw -C display shows that i915_bpo is in use
[20:13] <uRock> somethingdope, My experience has been with XFCE being a bit faster on my little Netbook.
[20:14] <Guest696969> somethingdope, for me, it just makes sense. no frills config yet can look elegant without speed sacrifice.
[20:14] <somethingdope> uRock, Ok, I don't really have any problems with mate except I don't like the system bar, but its not worth migrating just for that
[20:15] <Guest696969> somethingdope, so mod it to your needs....
[20:15] <Guest696969> oops nevermind
[20:15] <somethingdope> Guest696969, thats why I went with mate, it had pretty much the same tagline
[20:15] <Guest696969> k
[20:15] <Remind> Hey everyone, using Ubuntu 16.04 64-bit here. Just a question regarding hybrid nvidia/intel cards. I have a NVIDIA GTX950M and can't get the drivers/system to work without having to reinstall ubuntu. Any advice?
[20:16] <Bashing-om> Redbeardt: Going to Intel (IEM) is the means of last resort . A real pain to maintain the driver then . Besides it is beta .. and you are the tester !. Let's take a look at the config file for X see if there is something out of place ' cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf ' Be aware I am the more familiar with this file with nVidia as the card in use .
[20:16] <uRock> As long as it has Network Manager, I can use it.
[20:16] <Redbeardt> Bashing-om: Looks like I don't have an xorg.conf
[20:17] <Bashing-om> Remind: What driver are you using  for the 950M ?
[20:17] <Redbeardt> Bashing-om: I'm on 361 atm
[20:17] <Remind> Bashing-om, I just reinstalled. When I go to additional drivers it says its using the X.Org X serer right now
[20:18] <uRock> bekks, I was able to find a GUI workaround. NM has a Route button in the IpV4 tab, once clicked, I was able to select a checkbox setting the connection to be for LAN use only.
[20:18] <Remind> The other option is 'Using NVIDIA binary driver - version 361.42'
[20:18] <Bashing-om> Redbeardt: Ouch ! now that is an issue .. that file must exist for switching to take place ! // OK. let's try this .. can you boot with the nVidia card ? and we have the system generate the file .
[20:18] <bekks> uRock: and that leaves you with only ony default gateway in "netstat -rn"?
[20:18] <bz-> hi, has anyone noticed that qimo4kids.com is down?
[20:19] <Redbeardt> Bashing-om: Actually I had put a file there a few hours ago, and then I checked later while continuing to diagnose and it was gone. Something is deleting it.
[20:19] <bekks> bz-: No on in here cares, actually.
[20:19] <ikonia> nothing to do with ubuntu bekks
[20:19] <uRock> bekks, yes
[20:19] <ikonia> bz-: even
[20:19] <ikonia> sorry bekks
[20:19] <bekks> ikonia: ;)
[20:19] <Redbeardt> Bashing-om: I noticed at the bottom of the gpu-manager log you asked me to paste earlier, there was mention of deleting xorg.conf.
[20:19] <uRock> ikonia, lol
[20:19] <bz-> how come?
[20:20] <Bashing-om> Remind: Consider : http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/106780/en-us ; where nVidia recommends the 367 version driver .
[20:20] <Remind> When I select the prooprietary driver (Using NVIDIA binary driver - version 361.42) and restart, my System Details still says I'm using Intel for my graphics
[20:20] <bekks> bz-: It is not related to Ubuntu.
[20:20] <bz-> it's not?
[20:20] <bz-> ok
[20:20] <bekks> bz-: "No."
[20:20] <ikonia> bz-: this channel is for ubuntu discussion
[20:20] <Redbeardt> Bashing-om: "Moved /etc/X11/xorg.conf to /etc/X11/xorg.conf.08282016" from gpu-manager.log
[20:20] <bz-> sorry, i thought it was urrm, like an ubuntu extension
[20:21] <bz-> i thought this was a channel which may have also been responsible for other creations of ubuntu, including qimo, my bad....
[20:21] <Remind> Bashing-om, I tried that just a bit ago, which is why I had to restart. I had to CTRL+ALT+F1, service lightdms stop, and installed the driver. It gave me an error saying it didn't install, and when I restarted
[20:21] <ikonia> bz-: no problem
[20:21] <bz-> so like
[20:21] <Remind> I would log in, and be immediatly logged off
[20:21] <bz-> thanks.
[20:21] <Bashing-om> Redbeardt: In hybrid graphics. the file should get switched our for use by the "in-use" graphic set . If that file does not exist ... then X has no directive of what to do .
[20:21] <Remind> Could this have something to do with needing to get bumblebee or something to do with prime/optimus? I've read about these but not sure which route to go. I just want to use my graphics card and have a working Ubuntu :P
[20:21] <Redbeardt> Bashing-om: Oh right
[20:22] <Bashing-om> Redbeardt: Try and have the system generate a new file ??
[20:23] <Redbeardt> Remind: My experience was that bumblebee just doesn't work very well. Things got a lot easier when I started using PRIME.
[20:23] <szb> Remind: Maybe you can add Ubuntu's "official" Nvidia ppa and install the latest driver that way... At least from there they are properly packaged! Had success with this on a friend's Linux Mint when the older driver from the repo and the newer from Nvidia's website wouldn't work!
[20:23] <Redbeardt> Bashing-om: Uhhh how do I do that? hah
[20:23] <szb> Remind: Read about / Find it here: hat just a bit ago, which is why I had to restart. I had to CTRL+ALT+F1, service lightdms stop, and installed the driver. It gave me an error saying it didn't install, and when I restarted
[20:23] <ikonia> bumblebee is dead
[20:24] <szb> Remind: Argh... ignore that, I don't even know why I had that in my clipboard!? here's the link to the ppa: https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[20:25] <Bashing-om> Redbeardt: Try boot up with the nVidia card as in use , and in terminal run : ' sudo nvidia-xconfig ' . Should build us an appropriate file .
[20:25] <Redbeardt> Remind: ikonia: Bumblebee is so dead that if you use the Nvidia PPA mentioned by szb and download driver packages from it, nvidia-prime comes with them.
[20:25] <Remind> szb, Bashing-om, thank you guys very much
[20:25] <Redbeardt> Bashing-om: Ok, brb then ;)
[20:25] <Remind> Is there a way to verify that my system is utilizing the NVIDIA card and not the intel card?
[20:26] <Redbeardt> Remind: prime-select query ... if you have it installed
[20:26]  * uRock That warm fuzzy you get when you find how to do something without opening the terminal.
[20:27] <Remind> Thank you :)
[20:27] <Bashing-om> Remind: I do follow what nVida recommends - 367 - However ! That driver is to be gotten from our PPA . depending on how you feel about PPAs and what you want to do .
[20:28] <Remind> So after adding this PPA, would I just apt-get install nvidia-graphics-driver-367 ?
[20:29] <szb> Remind: Yup, pretty much! Not sure if you need to run 'nvidia-xconfig' after installation... Bashing-om? ^-^
[20:29] <Bashing-om> Remind: Yes, just remember to purge the o;ld driver .. and also remove the old config file ' sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf ' . A new one will be nade up with the driver install .
[20:30] <Remind> sudo apt-get remove --purge nvidia* ?
[20:30] <LordLaravel> strange, few days ago I have root -> root logging in 1440 times
[20:30] <LordLaravel> the past few days
[20:30] <Remind> Thank you guys so much for helping me out
[20:30] <LordLaravel> always 1440
[20:31] <Bashing-om> szb: Yeah .. there are those rare cases where the config file does not build . rare though .
[20:33] <Redbeardt> Bashing-om: Well I generated the new xorg.conf and it differed rather drastically compared to the old one, but it had no effect on my problems. :<
[20:34] <ElectroLex> me is using "Ubuntu Kylin" it's pretty cool...
[20:35] <Remind> Added the PPA, seemed to work fine. However it can't find that nvidia package. Could I be doing it incorrectly? sudo apt-get install nvidia-graphcis-drivers-367
[20:35] <Remind> E: Unable to locate package nvidia-graphics-drivers-367
[20:36] <_adb> which package do i need for apache to execute perl cgis? (it currently displays content of file without executing. Options +ExecCGI is included in config)
[20:36] <EriC^^> Remind: did you run sudo apt-get update ?
[20:36] <Remind> I sure did!
[20:36] <EriC^^> Remind: try apt-cache search 367
[20:37] <Remind> nvidia-367 - NVIDIA binary driver - version 367.44
[20:37] <Remind> I got quite a bit of results though
[20:37] <EriC^^> try apt-cache policy nvidia-367
[20:37] <Bashing-om> Redbeardt: And what driver is in use ? ' sudo lshw -C display ' ..
[20:38] <Redbeardt> Bashing-om: Well I'm logged in so now it'd be the Intel... and it is
[20:38] <Remind> Bashing-om, it shows both my intel and my GTX 950M in two seperate display listings
[20:38] <banditti> Hello all.  I did do-release-upgrade from 14 to 16.04 and now things don't work.  For example, I can't ssh to the box now.  Thoughts?
[20:38] <Redbeardt> Bashing-om: I might go run that with the nvidia selected just to see what it says.. brb
[20:38] <Bashing-om> Remind: Might be good to make sure that BunbleBee is not a factor and all nVidia deiversa are purged ' dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia ' and I give ya the new install routine .
[20:39] <Remind> Bashing-om, iHR nvidia-367                                  367.44-0ubuntu0~gpu16.04.1                                  amd64        (no description available)
[20:40] <Bashing-om> Remind: ' sudo add-apt-repository ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa ' ?? and did you update afterward ???
[20:41] <Remind> Bashing-om, I sure did, just checked my .bash_history too
[20:41] <EriC^^> Remind: the nvidia package is still half installed
[20:42] <Bashing-om> Remind: Humm show me in a pastebin ' dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia ' . See what is .
[20:42] <Remind> Well, I think it was because I jumped the gun and ran 'apt-get install nvidia-367'
[20:42] <Remind> Now when I dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia
[20:43] <Remind> http://termbin.com/thub
[20:43] <Remind> Sorry I thought that'd be a bit easier
[20:43] <Redbeardt_> Bashing-om: With the Nvidia selected by PRIME, sudo lshw -C display returns http://pastebin.com/bYTWz7nB .. so it shows both!
[20:44] <Bashing-om> Remind: Looks good to me .. reboot and let's see what the effect is .
[20:45] <Remind> Bashing-om, will do, and thank you so much
[20:45] <Remind> Sorry to ask for so much help. I absolutely love linux and want it to be my only OS (which is what I'm doing now)
[20:45] <Remind> It's just this is the part that is always a huge speed bump
[20:45] <Remind> Crossing my fingers that this survives a reboot, brb!
[20:46] <Bashing-om> Redbeardt: Looks good .. but I do not understand now why " driver=i915_bpo  ' is used as the updated driver is installed . let's take a look at the control file ' cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf ' .
[20:47] <Redbeardt> Bashing-om: Well it's gone again since I'm booted with Intel selected.
[20:48] <Remind> It survived! I think it may have worked. Maybe this isn't the right way to check but when I go to settings > details > Graphics says "GeForce GTX 950M/PCIe/SSE2"
[20:48] <Bashing-om> Redbeardt: Ouch .. something is seriiusly ammiss, I think ! .. as Intel also must have it's config file in place . should have switched out !
[20:49] <Redbeardt> Bashing-om: Here is the xorg.conf that was generated by the nvidia command though: http://pastebin.com/E4nkd7zx
[20:49] <Bashing-om> Remind: Welcome to the linux learning curve . If you use the system and all is good .. you are in good shape . :)
[20:50] <Redbeardt> Bashing-om: I'm not even sure if there's any warrant for concern for a lack of xorg.conf file when I boot into the Intel, since the Intel seems to work just fine.
[20:50] <Phanes> using the gui in an implementation-specific GUI is not a "linux learning curve"
[20:50] <Remind> Sweet! Thank you so much! I'm in school right now learning linux installation/troubleshooting but we use RedHat and CentOs. However, everything I hear is Ubuntu is geared towards home users
[20:50] <Remind> Glad to finally ditch windows and make the switch. Thank you for being around and help me out. I really do appreciate your time
[20:50] <Phanes> stop telling people solutions only application to one window manager
[20:51] <Phanes> *applicable
[20:51] <ksft> Remind: were you having problems with an Nvidia/Intel graphics card thing?
[20:51] <Remind> ksft, I was, but Bashing-om got me fixed up!
[20:51] <ksft> I'm still having trouble with mine
[20:51] <Phanes> Bashing-om, for example, i use i3
[20:52] <ksft> if I install proprietary nvidia drivers, I get a login loop the next time I start X
[20:53] <knokon> quit
[20:53] <Phanes> anybody using the new GTX 1080 yet?  how's proprietary driver support?
[20:54] <Redbeardt> I'm starting to get burnt out again on this issue.. Already done heaps of digging myself, then the AskUbuntu question, now here with you Bashing-om. It's starting to seem unsolvable.
[20:54] <tammy_> I've dug myself a hole :( /boot is full and I get errors when try to apt-get purge or apt-get autoremove.  I can't use apt-get upgrade or install because it complains that my linux-headers-generic have unmet dependencies. Can anyone knowledged enough point me out of this hole please?
[20:55] <spartan2276> How can I find out where the config files for the Wacom Tablet devices
[20:56] <Bashing-om> Phanes: Supported ! in our PPA . see: http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/106780/en-us .
[20:56] <reisio> spartan2276: why do you ask?
[20:57] <GoSu> tammy_, can't you archive and then move older versions of the kernel?
[20:58] <tables> how do i stop postfix from starting up?
[20:58] <GoSu> what is the size of your /boot partition?
[20:58] <spartan2276> because I have an Wacom Intous 12x9 and the ring to zoom in and out is not working. The tablet itself seems to work fine except for that
[20:58] <tammy_> I'm trying aptitude remove
[20:58] <tammy_> things are thinging
[20:58] <spartan2276> I tried using the GUI that is in the systems settings but not working
[20:58] <tammy_> so that's good
[20:58] <Bashing-om> Redbeardt: Oh it is solvable . I do not know the why however that the system does not pick up on the keyboard, mouse and monitor ! .. (Kernel Mode Setting) should take care of all that !
[20:59] <tammy_>  /boot is 184MB :(
[20:59] <GoSu> tables, disable the service to start on boot time
[20:59] <GoSu> tammy_, wow
[20:59] <GoSu> what files do you have there?
[20:59] <tammy_> that's the way this box is setup I guess
[20:59] <tammy_> a few kernels
[20:59] <tammy_> I forgot to remove them for a while :(
[20:59] <Bashing-om> Redbeardt: Gonna go smaoke on this .. be back soonest .
[20:59] <GoSu> try 'uname -r' and see what you are using
[21:00] <GoSu> then, the ones that are not needed, archive them end move them to another directory
[21:00] <tammy_> 3.2.0-99-generic
[21:00] <Bashing-om> tammy_: Got the operational overhead available for apt to work ' try ' sudo apt-get autoremove ' to remove old kernels .
[21:00] <tammy_> aptitude looks like it's saving my ass at the moment
[21:00] <spartan2276> reisio also the selection for the modes is also not working within the ring
[21:01] <tammy_> Bashing-om: I did that and it was nope. 4MB free on /boot
[21:01] <tammy_> aaaaand kernel has depends that were not there yet
[21:01] <tammy_> aptitude is working it's magic still
[21:01] <tammy_> I think this will do it
[21:02] <tammy_> power better not go out
[21:02] <GoSu> isn't aptitude more optimized than apt-get?
[21:02] <tammy_> beats me, never used it before just now
[21:02] <sorin-mihai> I'm trying to understand which components from the Ubuntu Cloud stack require a paid subscription and which not, and if I could work around that at least for a while, using different software. any ideas?
[21:02] <promet> I have a working nfs share, I'm trying to add a second exported folder on my nfs server. The client sees and correctly names this second folder, but upon opening, it is actually a mirror of the first shared folder. Anyone seen this?
[21:02] <Redbeardt> Bashing-om: So I just booted with the Nvidia again and checked out the xorg.conf and gpu-manager.log. Looks like the newly generated xorg.conf we did earlier is being overwritten by the older version it was using. I have no idea where the xorg.conf that it swaps in sits.
[21:02] <reisio> spartan2276: that's one of the color display computers?
[21:03] <GoSu> promet, any chance of having a symlink?
[21:03] <tammy_> apt-get autoremove is removing!
[21:03] <tammy_> WOO!!!!
[21:04] <promet> GoSu, I'm not sure what you mean
[21:04] <tammy_> I was ready to accept my fate of never updating this machine again
[21:04] <GoSu> tammy_, I had that issue once, although my /boot partition had 250MB
[21:04] <promet> between...
[21:04] <GoSu> resized it via 'fdisk'
[21:04] <spartan2276> reisio no is a drawing tablet like this https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/314x5FzCUqL._SX300_.jpg
[21:04] <spartan2276> reisio so that middle ring is not working
[21:04] <Redbeardt> Ah shit. I installed some packages from a PPA that was ostensibly supposed to have updated Intel drivers and now I'm getting weird rendering problems.
[21:04] <Redbeardt> Grrr fuck this problem
[21:05] <MarkusDBX> I got this superfull system, 100% full /, suggestions on temp files I can rm..  Apt get is not running it needs to  do stuff adn crashes, so I can't uninstall stuff
[21:05] <MarkusDBX> Any way to recover such a full system?
[21:05] <Bashing-om> tammy_: :) .. Mighty smart system is 'buntu !
[21:05] <Redbeardt> MarkusDBX: .. Logs? :3
[21:06] <timBandTech> So I tried to do a dist-upgrade from 14.0 to 16.0 and got stuck somewhere in the middle so that I have ability to login but am stuck with a myspell bug that locks out the package system
[21:06] <Redbeardt> Shit shit shit all my rendering is weird now. I gotta figure out how to rolllback all the stuff I just installed from that PPA.
[21:06] <MarkusDBX> Redbeardt: Still full, it seems it just eats the space I clear.
[21:07] <MarkusDBX> I guess it got cached writes to write.
[21:07] <Bashing-om> Redbeardt: I do not like at all that former xorg config file . Just do not have an idea yet of what is not taking place . I am going to go smoke and consider .
[21:07] <reisio> spartan2276: what's the model, again?
[21:07] <tammy_>  /boot is no 57% full.
[21:07] <MarkusDBX> Redbeardt: It's just a "goof" machine is I can kill anything, more suggestions?
[21:07]  * tammy_ breaths a sigh of relief
[21:07] <MarkusDBX> my boot is not full
[21:08] <MarkusDBX> is full though
[21:08] <Redbeardt> Does anyone know how to downgrade your packages if you upgraded them from a PPA? Like can you remove that PPA and then downgrade to the latest versions newly available somehow?
[21:09] <kostkon> !ppapurge | Redbeardt
[21:09] <spartan2276> reisio intuos4 12x9
[21:09] <Redbeardt> kostkon: thanks
[21:11] <reisio> spartan2276: meant to be a scroll wheel?
[21:11] <BL4DE> Is empathy actually any good? I've been trying all day to set up a SIP account. In the end wouldn't give me buttons to pick up calls while they rang.
[21:11] <tammy_> thanks for letting me freak out in your channel #ubuntu :)
[21:12] <daumie> Am using linux color palette formy terminal..still I don;t like the display..any other recommended color palleted
[21:12] <daumie> using zsh shell
[21:12] <spartan2276> I believe so
[21:14] <OerHeks> hint: Oh My Zsh
[21:14] <Bashing-om> Redbeardt: We have a bug report ! I be reading : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-drivers-common/+bug/1565516 .
[21:14] <OerHeks> daumie, see examples https://github.com/robbyrussell/oh-my-zsh/wiki/themes
[21:14] <Redbeardt> ohh
[21:15] <Redbeardt> This ppa-purge doesn't seem to be doing a whole lot
[21:16] <daumie> Not themes, color scheme OerHeks
[21:16] <daumie> For example in my terminal profile preferances an susing linux terminal color pallete
[21:16] <Bashing-om> Redbeardt: ^^ no solution offered . But you are not alone !
[21:16] <daumie> OerHeks: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
[21:18] <Redbeardt> Bashing-om: Damn. Well, thanks a bunch for your help
[21:19] <Redbeardt> Bashing-om: Now to figure out this new problem I've given myself with this PPA, and why ppa-purge isn't dealing with it properly.
[21:21] <GoSu> dimi34ka, hubav nick :)
[21:23] <Bashing-om> Redbeardt: ppa-purge should only revert that 367 driver to what is in the repo (361 ?) . and then you must remove the entry from the sourcs.list.d directory .
[21:24] <budder> page 33 of the installation guide says "To prepare the USB stick, you will need a system where GNU/Linux is already running and where USB is supported"
[21:24] <Redbeardt> Bashing-om: I actually added this ppa:oibaf/graphics-drivers because I thought it might help with the Intel.. but it has causedall sorts of strange rendering problems
[21:25] <budder> i am looking to dualboot alongside windows and DO NOT have a system already running GNU/Linux. what are my options?
[21:25] <akik> budder: first install windows, then linux. let grub boot both windows and linux
[21:25] <budder> akik: i do have windows installed
[21:26] <budder> akik: i did not understand the second part of your reply
[21:26] <akik> budder: you can resize (shrink) the windows partition to give space for the linux installation
[21:27] <akik> budder: this can be done within the disk management in windows
[21:27] <Bashing-om> Redbeardt: K; There is no doubt something strang is going on . What we do not yet know . Also there is no doubt in my mind that mc4man knows his stuff and as such with sky lake in 16.04 we want the i965-va-driver installed .
[21:27] <budder> akik: i have windows installed on my ssd and am looking to install ubuntu on my hdd. it is a 1tb hdd
[21:28] <akik> budder: is this an uefi system?
[21:28] <reisio> budder: what's the problem?
[21:29] <budder> akik: i'm not sure. i am running windows 10 64 on my ssd. want to install ubuntu on the hdd
[21:30] <Redbeardt> Gonna reboot.. Hopefully this rendering stuff is dealt with
[21:30] <budder> reisio: my concern is that in the installation guide it says "To prepare the USB stick, you will need a system where GNU/Linux is already running and where USB is supported" and i do not have a system already running GNU/Linux
[21:30] <budder> akik: custom PC with ASRock H97M pro4 motherboard
[21:30] <budder> akik: idk if that helps
[21:31] <bekks> budder: you can use a tool like Rufus for creating the USB using windows.
[21:31] <reisio> budder: referring to what, a usb stick for use as install media?
[21:32] <kholdstayre> where do i add a new path so that it applies to sudo? i added the path to /etc/environment and then sourced it, but that does not seem to have solved the problem
[21:32] <budder> reisio: yes i plan to use a USB stick as install media
[21:32] <Redbeardt_> Nope. ppa-purge apparently did nothing. Goddamnit.
[21:32] <reisio> budder: yeah okay, that's just a poorly written part of the install guide, then :)
[21:33] <reisio> budder: there's a variety of ways you can do it from Windows
[21:33] <budder> bekks: okay i am familiar with rufus. why does the installation guide not mention that alternative method then?
[21:33] <reisio> probably because nobody's paid to update it
[21:34] <tomreyn> kholdstayre: be sure to logout + login again to have changes apply.
[21:34] <kholdstayre> tomreyn, ah ok
[21:34] <kholdstayre> thx
[21:35] <budder> reisio: okay i see. so any specific reason it is not mentioned anywhere else in the installation guide?
[21:35] <Redbeardt_> Sigh. How the christ do I downgrade these packages now?
[21:35] <tomreyn> kholdstayre: also be aware that changes to /etc/environment apply for all users you may have. you can alernatively edit a users' $HOME/profile
[21:35] <Redbeardt_> I guess I'm getting frustrated after all that stuff about the other issue.
[21:35] <budder> reisio: do i have to partition my drive before I install ubuntu? or can I do that during the install? and how much space would you recommend? the guide says 10gb
[21:36] <reisio> budder: it probably says 10 is a "minimum"
[21:37] <reisio> budder: you don't have to, no, it can & will partition during installation
[21:37] <reisio> budder: I'd use a partition equivalent to the size of your ram for swap, and the rest for /
[21:37] <reisio> which is probably close to what it'll do automatically if you let it
[21:38] <budder> reisio: partition equivalent to the size of your ram for swap, and the rest for /
[21:38] <budder> what does that mean?
[21:38] <budder> i have 8gb ram
[21:39] <bekks> so 8 gb swap then.
[21:39] <tomreyn> Redbeardt_: you want to remove a ppa and remove packages installed from it / downgrade to supported package versions? i could guide you, but you'll need to bring along some patience and post some output to a pastebin, more than once..
[21:39] <budder> bekks: what is swap
[21:39] <reisio> budder: kinda like virtual memory
[21:39] <reisio> space for virtual memory
[21:40] <reisio> it's also used for suspend/hibernate, though
[21:40] <reisio> and is just generally useful, and expected
[21:40] <budder> reisio: you said partition equivalent to size of ram. i don't know what you mean by that. partition my hdd for linux equivalent to the size of my ram? that is what i get from that
[21:41] <reisio> budder: like bekks said
[21:41] <Redbeardt_> tomreyn: I merely re-added the PPA then ran ppa-purge on it again and it worked this time for some bloody reason. So that's that.
 kholdstayre: also be aware that changes to /etc/environment apply for all users you may have. you can alernatively edit a users' $HOME/profile
[21:41] <reisio> if you have 8gb of ram, then make 8gb for swap partition
[21:41] <bekks> budder: size of RAM = 8GB = size of the swap partition.
[21:41] <reisio> or you can just let it choose on its own
[21:41] <Dave666> Hi, anyone know how to get rc.local to run at startup in osmc? I think it's based on debian, but systemd doesn't seem to work properlu
[21:41] <budder> reisio:, bekks, so besides parititioning hard drive, is there something else that needs to be done?
[21:41] <reisio> budder: no, you don't even need to partition yourself, as I said :)
[21:41] <reisio> budder: I would suggest, though
[21:41] <tomreyn> Redbeardt_: fine. sometimes ppa-purge actually works.
[21:41] <bekks> budder: As reisio said :)
[21:41] <reisio> budder: if you have the option, to make your spinner the first drive, and your solid state the second
[21:42] <kholdstayre> tomreyn, i need the changes to apply for sudo. I have logged out and back in, but the problem persists, is there anything else I can do to add a path for sudo?
[21:42] <reisio> budder: that way you can keep grub more simply with the rest of Ubuntu, on the spinner, and not touch the windows installation at all
[21:43] <tomreyn> kholdstayre: when you run a command thorugh sudo it will, by default, use your normal users' environment.
[21:43] <budder> reisio, bekks, i'm just gonna dive into it. hopefully i'll learn these things along the way
[21:43] <reisio> budder: yeah you'll be fine
[21:43] <reisio> have any trouble, this is the place
[21:43] <budder> reisio: thank u
[21:43] <budder> bekks: thank u
[21:44] <tomreyn> kholdstayre: sory, i meant to say by default it does NOT preserve your users' environement.
[21:44] <reisio> np
[21:44] <tomreyn> kholdstayre: you could user the --preserve-env option to sudo, though
[21:45] <tomreyn> kholdstayre: this can have security implications, however. so be sure to read up on it on the man page first.
[21:45] <kholdstayre> tomreyn, ok let me try that. also, where are the env paths for sudo stored if not in etc/enviroment?
[21:45] <tomreyn> kholdstayre: /etc/sudoers(.d)
[21:57] <danny_> I'm setting up a server, should I create an a root account?  Or just always use sudo from a normal account?
[21:57] <Launched> It's more secure to use sudo from a regular account
[21:58] <reisio> not really
[21:58] <reisio> danny_: using sudo is the more Ubuntu way, however
[21:58] <reisio> either that means something to you or it doesn't
[21:58] <tomreyn> the question is not really whether or not to setup a root account, but whether or not to assign a password to the root account, since you will have a root account either way.
[21:59] <Launched> Good point
[22:00] <danny_> tomreyn, Actually no, according to the setup prompt right now "The root user should not have an empty password. If you leave this empty, the root account will be disabled and the system's initial user account will be given the power to become root using the "sudo" command."
[22:00] <reisio> well, one might argue that set-ting a password for root is kind of like a set-up of the root account :p
[22:00] <reisio> danny_: well he means "disabled"
[22:00] <ikonia> danny_: what setup prompt ?
[22:00] <antipsychiatry> Hey?????? What do u speak??? What security??? They use mind reading !!!!!! These secret service bastards!!!!!!!!
[22:00] <reisio> antipsychiatry: ikr
[22:01] <ikonia> antipsychiatry: enough please, stop with this sort of nonsense
[22:01] <danny_> ikonia, I'm setting up an open media vault server, (based on debian)
[22:01] <ikonia> danny_: ok - so this is nothing to do with ubuntu
[22:01] <ikonia> so nothing to do with this channel danny_
[22:01] <antipsychiatry> Ikonia!!!!! Read on ex -Nsa: remote neural monitoring.
[22:02] <ikonia> antipsychiatry: no - stop talking on this topic please
[22:02] <danny_> It seems like a topic relevant to all the debian variants ikonia.
[22:02] <ikonia> danny_: no it's not
[22:02] <ikonia> danny_: this channel support official ubuntu releases on ly
[22:02] <antipsychiatry> These secret service bastards - have clasified secret hi tech for spy on your minds.
[22:03] <Launched> Could we stop with the nsa talk?
[22:03] <OerHeks> danny_, ubuntu uses a disabled root password, so don't unfix that way
[22:03] <antipsychiatry> These bastards must be jailed!!!!!!!!
[22:03] <ikonia> OerHeks: he's not using ubuntu
[22:03] <ikonia> OerHeks: hence his question
[22:03] <phablet> gos
[22:03] <tomreyn> why don't you set a permanenet ban? he keeps coming back.
[22:04] <tomreyn> okay, that's offtopic.
[22:11] <timBandTech> Sorry guys, but given todays climate I do believe that the spooks are inside our OSs. Let's face it, how hard can it be to install backdoors in community maintained software? Any serious group can do this and so I suspect that numerous governments have done so. This is an abstract analysis and I have no actual proof, however you who are disabling this train of thought are the zombies. They who go off the deep end are not terribly
[22:11] <timBandTech> functional either. When your computer gets wierd you may have been hacked, but you may not have been; dealing in the unknown is tricky business, and the severe accumulation of software bulk is not helping this problem.
[22:12] <reisio> timBandTech: pretty hard
[22:12] <reisio> next
[22:13] <mario3154> that was a big rant for IRC
[22:13] <reisio> that was a pretyped copy & pasted "rant"
[22:13] <reisio> big rants are organic :p
[22:14] <zykotick9> ^ the BEST thing you can do about crap like above, is NOT talk about it!  ignore it - and it'll go away/stop/slow-down...  ymmv?!?!
[22:15] <poseidon> does ubuntu have decent touch screen support?
[22:19] <reisio> poseidon: yup
[22:22] <tomreyn> next!
[22:22] <Bricker> Desktop 14.04: System wont boot without monitor plugged in. I tried to add a dummy driver, but thats not working. Any solutions without requring a vga resistor setup? I'd like it to be pure software related no hardware
[22:23] <zykotick9> tomreyn: can i PM you?
[22:23] <OerHeks> that should be an bios option:  halt on no errors, for keyboard/vga
[22:24] <tomreyn> zykotick9: technically, yes
[22:24] <tomreyn> zykotick9: do it
[22:24] <Bricker> actually im kinda dumb...i tried pinging device from desktop when it has my ethernet cable :P it seemed to have worked
[22:24] <Bricker> lol
[22:34] <Guest75891> I'm running kubuntu 16.04 x64. how can i install ltsp-server-standalone without all these gnome & gtk dependencies?
[22:35] <reisio> Guest75891: could look into disabling recommends
[22:36] <Guest75891> apt-get --no-recommends package?
[22:37] <Guest75891> like that?
[22:37] <Bricker> any reason Wireless wouldnt connect when booting without a GUI?
[22:40] <reisio> Guest75891: http://superuser.com/questions/615565/can-i-make-apt-get-always-use-no-install-recommends
[22:40] <reisio> Guest75891: however
[22:40] <Guest75891> however?
[22:41] <reisio> however (you please)
[22:41] <reisio> tricky ole English
[22:41] <Guest75891> "however" is usually a conjunction :P
[22:41] <reisio> Bricker: yes, your autoconfigurator is probably GUI-based
[22:41] <reisio> Guest75891: and 'usually' indicates exceptions :p
[22:41] <Bricker> sounds right
[22:42] <Bricker> how do I overcome this? /etc/network/interfaces and specify wlan1 there?
[22:42] <Bricker> (this is 14 not 16)
[22:42] <Guest75891> I just don't see the need for all the gnome packages when I'm not serving a gnome environment.
[22:42] <reisio> Bricker: IME nm-applet, for example will actually write to the configuration file, so it _should_ work as long as your networkmanager service is actually running
[22:42]  * Guest75891 has never done anything like this before
[22:42] <reisio> Guest75891: very sane
[22:43] <Guest75891> my not wanting to install a bunch of crapi don't need (gnome) is sane?
[22:43] <Guest75891> cool. :)
[22:44] <reisio> yes, quite sane
[22:44] <reisio> my congratulations on you pursuing that
[22:44] <reisio> disabling recommends will help some
[22:44] <Bricker> sorry, whats IME mean? nm-applet when ran via commandline wants a gui
[22:44] <reisio> in my experience
[22:44] <Bricker> oh
[22:45] <reisio> nm-applet is probably what you had been using from GUI
[22:45] <reisio> but as I said, IME it saves to the configuration file
[22:45] <Bricker> well, when i plug ethernet in, its working, but not wireless. which is weird
[22:45] <Bricker> where does it save the config file?
[22:45] <reisio> so check that the networkmanager service is running, and it should work still
[22:45] <MonkeyDust> Bricker  not weird, ethernet doesnt need configuration, is faster and more stable
[22:45] <Guest75891> --no-install-recommends still wants all the gnome crap
[22:45] <Bricker> yes networkmanager is running, but ethernet is plugged in as well
[22:46] <reisio> that should be the file, the one you mentioned
[22:46] <reisio> Bricker: well it'll prefer wired over wireless, most likely
[22:46] <polarbear> would anyone recomend to change the swappiness and enable write caching?
[22:46] <reisio> Guest75891: could be an unavoidable dep based on how the package was configured/built, then
[22:46] <Bricker> yeah, only reason I plugged in the ethernet was to gain access back, as wireless wasnt working
[22:46] <reisio> Guest75891: could potentially build on your own
[22:46] <Bricker> this box is going to be deployed without ethernet
[22:46] <reisio> polarbear: for certain situations, yes
[22:46] <Bricker> which is the problem
[22:47] <reisio> Bricker: that sounds like an altogether unrelated problem, though
[22:47] <polarbear> well running 4gb ram and ssd, would u recomend or leave default?
[22:47] <Guest75891> if I install all the gnome crap, will it hurt my system?
[22:47] <Bricker> Im not following
[22:47] <Bricker> if wireless doesnt work on boot, then thats the issue
[22:47] <reisio> Guest75891: that's a good question :)
[22:48] <reisio> Guest75891: for the most part, it will just take up space, but some applications also take up resources (cpu/ram)
[22:48] <reisio> Guest75891: and some, badly made ones, can theoretically do things you don't want :p
[22:48] <Guest75891> i've read (and had a few bad experinces) with having multiple desktops installed
[22:48] <reisio> and if you're doing a server install, you do indeed not want GUI stuff
[22:48] <reisio> GUI stuff in particular, and more software than is required in general, will make a server less secure
[22:48] <Guest75891> the "server" is my desktop rig, with KDE 5 installed on it.
[22:48] <reisio> on top of less performant :p
[22:48] <Bricker> the whole point was to make the system boot without needing a monitor, which is where xorg.conf came in. When that happens, system boots (when wired) and everything works. if wired isnt there, i dont know if system boots or not, because i cant plug a monitor in to see what happened. but i know its not responding so networking isnt working
[22:48] <reisio> okay, so not so big a deal
[22:49] <Ralbalu> weather applet broken?
[22:49] <Guest75891> Bricker: can't you just ping it?
[22:49] <MonkeyDust> Guest75891  if you don't want gnome, install kubuntu, xubuntu, lubuntu ...
[22:49] <reisio> Bricker: should work the same without a monitor
[22:49] <akik> Bricker: here's /etc/network/interfaces configuration you could follow https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1403717 (post #5)
[22:49] <Bricker> ty
[22:50] <BL4DE> So did anyone manage to set up empathy to work with SIP calls? I managed to call from a different account, empathy rang but gave no windows or notifications to pick up the call
[22:53] <Bricker> hmm, akik, that doesnt seem to work either. it does give it a static ip etc, but cant ping out or anything. when i plug monitor in it shows wireless isnt connected
[22:53] <akik> Bricker: i'll test
[23:00] <Bricker> brb poo
[23:01] <akik> Bricker: doesn't work for me either. i've tried to find a nmcli command to start the wlan0 interface but haven't found it
[23:02] <Bricker> me either :(
[23:11] <Guest23181> anyone here?
[23:11] <Guest23181> nickname DaX
[23:11]  * dax raises an eyebrow
[23:11] <Guest23181> how can i install netbeans file i downloaded with "sh" extension
[23:12]  * hggdh considers probability of random match
[23:13] <SchrodingersScat> Guest23181: if it's a bash script you can try bash filename.sh or make it executable and ./filename.sh
[23:20] <polishdream> hello
[23:20] <polishdream> what is the most proper way of learning ubuntu OS ?
[23:23] <ElectroLex> polishdream, try a "live" version first
[23:23] <akik> polishdream: you could read https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/ubuntu-help/index.html