[00:25] Noskcaj, hopefully this weekend, but if you are interested, please go on ahead === dkessel_ is now known as dkessel [07:29] bluesabre, mugshot updated in the svn, might need the disable clutter patch but otherwise good to go [07:30] i'll have a look at the other stuff tomorrow arvo [08:58] knome: didn't think about it during last meeting, but "vote mail out on 29th August with vote ending on 4th September" isn't a full week even lol [08:58] shall send it out tomorrow I guess [10:36] flocculant, ack [13:00] it's time to upgrade my system to the devel version ;) [13:09] Noskcaj, great, thanks! [13:32] nairwolf: lets hope it works then :p [13:32] hi bluesabre [13:33] yes, some people told me that using the same /home partition could create some issues with two OSes different [13:34] for example, if there use different config files [13:34] could [13:34] but, I think it would not be a problem (or not frequent) because it's just the n+1 version, it stills Xubuntu, etc etc [13:34] have you been annoyed by that ? [13:34] not personally [13:35] sometimes I get a mismatch on firefox versions - but that's just addons [13:36] and [13:36] I don't have a shared home either, I just have symlinks to ff/tbird and hexchat, data elsewhere [13:36] oh, ok ;) [13:37] all my other data is on partitions/drives and added to fstab [13:37] I can't do that, because I'm using a laptop with small space for my data. [13:37] yup [13:37] anyway, I think it should be okay [13:37] should be [13:37] I'm using backup daily [13:38] and I shouldn't come back to the n-1 version often, so... [13:38] yea [13:38] I backup just after it all goes wrong - then forget about it till the next time :p [13:39] ah ah ^^ [14:21] now, I'm using the dev version ;) [16:43] hey flocculant [16:43] spooky - I'd just sat here ... [16:43] I know. [16:44] O.O [16:44] stop kickin gthat football around then :| [16:44] too noisy [16:44] :D [16:45] can't believe we've all actually almost made it to a council :p [16:45] * flocculant might forget to stop the poll after he starts it [16:45] :D [16:46] just got today's daily installed and set up [16:47] looks like I need to nag ochosi_ about some greybird issues [16:47] I turned of the shimmer ppa [16:48] bluesabre: which particular issues? [16:49] on the whole it's all pretty stable at least - if we forget the no desktop at all issue :p [16:50] weird things in general, login screen is unthemed, "Preferred Applications" seems to have the font not line up with the icons, each of the progress blips in the installer have a tiny bit of progress, sometimes checkboxes are grey, other times are white [16:50] it does seem very stable [16:51] which is reassuring [16:51] yes noticed the progree blips this morning actually [16:51] not noticed grey/white tbh [16:51] preferred apps looks ok to me - but old eyes ... [16:52] I'll probably go through and screenshot and give ochosi_ a bunch of bug reports [16:52] might be my font choice [16:52] maybe a bug in fontconfig [16:52] bluesabre: did you not notice the wandering skip button when installing :p [16:52] flocculant, don't think I saw that one [16:53] I was going to see if tiny bit of progress happened in ubuntu before I reported that - got a screeny ready [16:53] :) [16:53] bluesabre: and I assume you've not got shimmer ppa? [16:53] flocculant, not currently [16:53] http://i.imgur.com/iBQc5DH.png [16:54] need to review each of those and make sure they build correctly [16:54] ok - just making sure - cos that breaks things a bit [16:55] my issue might actually be gtk3 ppa related https://i.imgur.com/FvFBFWP.png [16:55] oh yea - that's well out of line [16:55] must be if I can see it ;) [16:55] judging by the headerbar there [16:55] probably a bug I created tbh :D [16:55] lol [16:55] I'd not added that one yet [16:56] or rather not added it locally - have a vm with it [16:57] probably wise [16:59] though happy to check it out when asked of course [16:59] goodie [17:00] probably not going to pull in any gtk3 components for yakkety, but might start with z [17:00] bluesabre: what font is that though - can check that first I guess [17:01] * flocculant uses noto sans [17:01] bluesabre: z works for QA :D [17:01] Fira Sans 10, https://launchpad.net/~bluesabre/+archive/ubuntu/fonts/+files/fonts-fira-sans_0.01+git-0~26fb0a2_all.deb [17:01] oh right some random thing :D [17:01] flocculant, indeed, I'm sure you're not bothered by that at all ;) [17:02] bluesabre: I will still be hanging around - just really need a rest from beating my head on that wall :p [17:02] understandably [17:02] maybe get some spackle and patch the hole you've left there [17:02] :) [17:03] ooh - -brb - that font's doing funky stuff [17:03] :D [17:04] * bluesabre causes trouble [17:05] not sure what that's all about [17:06] could be out of line - REALLY hard to tell :p [17:06] http://i.imgur.com/Z7U1dDl.png [17:06] * flocculant does a shrug and moves swiftly back [17:06] ah [17:06] thats fira sans light [17:07] should be a regular option there somewhere, not that you'll ever be able to see again [17:07] or [17:07] "Thin" [17:07] it seems [17:07] hard to read ;) [17:07] oh right ... [17:08] got it - pref apps looks fine here still [17:09] cool [17:09] so its greybird or exo, caused by me or ochosi :D [17:09] well - it's something caused by someone that's not installed here :p [17:10] if you want I can add the gtk ppa and check that here [17:10] nah, don't worry about it [17:10] okey doke [17:11] bluesabre: when we get to beta, I'm going to let Dave decide for QA what position to take on release [17:11] flocculant, sounds good to me [17:11] I'll still jump up and down for RC and final this time [17:12] :D [17:12] release tantrums are the best tantrums [17:14] heh [17:15] bluesabre: glad wqe got that sru finally, couldn't confirm the issue on trusty - but given only a few months left anyway [17:15] I think ... [17:16] I still got a mild dislike of thunar though lol [17:16] flocculant, indeed, surprised it actually moved along without issue [17:16] yea [17:16] feel a bit to blame there - should have put my foot down at release [17:17] flocculant, yeah... thunar isn't getting better (even in y), and I'm not opposed to moving to a different file manager, but that suggestion tends to rock the boat a bit [17:17] yea [17:17] I understand *why* [17:17] just believe that if we moved on then the fault(s) might get looked at more [17:18] though I don't know that for sure [17:18] yeah [17:18] I can understand that it's pretty much core xfce, but on the other hand we're not xfce, we're xubuntu [17:18] * bluesabre agrees [17:19] :) [17:20] I guess at the end of the day - I take the problems more personally - cos I sign it off as ok from qa perspective - even though I don't want to and know it's broken [17:20] but heyho - I get to not worry soon :) [17:20] :D [17:20] I can watch Dave's hair fall out :p [17:20] if he's got any that is [18:12] not alot of it.. even less now its been cut this morning [18:12] :) [18:13] setting yourself up for a fall then :p [18:13] also re the file manager.. must admit I usually prefer nautilus [18:14] I prefer pcmanfm [18:15] well that's not quite true - I prefer thunar - but it's fighting back :) [18:16] at least my main file manger problem is agnostic :D [18:16] can't eject usb3 [18:16] and it stay ejected ... [18:17] well same here.. been using thunar mainly in the last few cycles.... only swap to nautilus now for when connecting to windows networks