[00:25] <bluesabre> Noskcaj, hopefully this weekend, but if you are interested, please go on ahead
[07:29] <Noskcaj> bluesabre, mugshot updated in the svn, might need the disable clutter patch but otherwise good to go
[07:30] <Noskcaj> i'll have a look at the other stuff tomorrow arvo
[08:58] <flocculant> knome: didn't think about it during last meeting, but "vote mail out on 29th August with vote ending on 4th September" isn't a full week even lol
[08:58] <flocculant> shall send it out tomorrow I guess
[10:36] <knome> flocculant, ack
[13:00] <nairwolf> it's time to upgrade my system to the devel version ;)
[13:09] <bluesabre> Noskcaj, great, thanks!
[13:32] <flocculant> nairwolf: lets hope it works then :p
[13:32] <flocculant> hi bluesabre 
[13:33] <nairwolf> yes, some people told me that using the same /home partition could create some issues with two OSes different
[13:34] <nairwolf> for example, if there use different config files
[13:34] <flocculant> could 
[13:34] <nairwolf> but, I think it would not be a problem (or not frequent) because it's just the n+1 version, it stills Xubuntu, etc etc
[13:34] <nairwolf> have you been annoyed by that ? 
[13:34] <flocculant> not personally 
[13:35] <flocculant> sometimes I get a mismatch on firefox versions - but that's just addons
[13:36] <flocculant> and
[13:36] <flocculant> I don't have a shared home either, I just have symlinks to ff/tbird and hexchat, data elsewhere
[13:36] <nairwolf> oh, ok ;)
[13:37] <flocculant> all my other data is on partitions/drives and added to fstab
[13:37] <nairwolf> I can't do that, because I'm using a laptop with small space for my data. 
[13:37] <flocculant> yup
[13:37] <nairwolf> anyway, I think it should be okay
[13:37] <flocculant> should be 
[13:37] <nairwolf> I'm using backup daily
[13:38] <nairwolf> and I shouldn't come back to the n-1 version often, so...
[13:38] <flocculant> yea
[13:38] <flocculant> I backup just after it all goes wrong - then forget about it till the next time :p
[13:39] <nairwolf> ah ah ^^
[14:21] <nairwolf> now, I'm using the dev version ;)
[16:43] <bluesabre> hey flocculant 
[16:43] <flocculant> spooky - I'd just sat here ...
[16:43] <bluesabre> I know.
[16:44] <bluesabre> O.O
[16:44] <flocculant> stop kickin gthat football around then :|
[16:44] <flocculant> too noisy 
[16:44] <bluesabre> :D
[16:45] <flocculant> can't believe we've all actually almost made it to a council :p
[16:45]  * flocculant might forget to stop the poll after he starts it 
[16:45] <bluesabre> :D
[16:46] <bluesabre> just got today's daily installed and set up
[16:47] <bluesabre> looks like I need to nag ochosi_ about some greybird issues
[16:47] <flocculant> I turned of the shimmer ppa
[16:48] <flocculant> bluesabre: which particular issues?
[16:49] <flocculant> on the whole it's all pretty stable at least - if we forget the no desktop at all issue :p
[16:50] <bluesabre> weird things in general, login screen is unthemed, "Preferred Applications" seems to have the font not line up with the icons, each of the progress blips in the installer have a tiny bit of progress, sometimes checkboxes are grey, other times are white
[16:50] <bluesabre> it does seem very stable
[16:51] <bluesabre> which is reassuring
[16:51] <flocculant> yes noticed the progree blips this morning actually
[16:51] <flocculant> not noticed grey/white tbh
[16:51] <flocculant> preferred apps looks ok to me - but old eyes ...
[16:52] <bluesabre> I'll probably go through and screenshot and give ochosi_ a bunch of bug reports
[16:52] <bluesabre> might be my font choice
[16:52] <bluesabre> maybe a bug in fontconfig
[16:52] <flocculant> bluesabre: did you not notice the wandering skip button when installing :p
[16:52] <bluesabre> flocculant, don't think I saw that one
[16:53] <flocculant> I was going to see if tiny bit of progress happened in ubuntu before I reported that - got a screeny ready
[16:53] <bluesabre> :)
[16:53] <flocculant> bluesabre: and I assume you've not got shimmer ppa?
[16:53] <bluesabre> flocculant, not currently
[16:53] <flocculant> http://i.imgur.com/iBQc5DH.png
[16:54] <bluesabre> need to review each of those and make sure they build correctly
[16:54] <flocculant> ok - just making sure - cos that breaks things a bit 
[16:55] <bluesabre> my issue might actually be gtk3 ppa related https://i.imgur.com/FvFBFWP.png
[16:55] <flocculant> oh yea - that's well out of line
[16:55] <flocculant> must be if I can see it ;)
[16:55] <bluesabre> judging by the headerbar there
[16:55] <bluesabre> probably a bug I created tbh :D
[16:55] <flocculant> lol
[16:55] <flocculant> I'd not added that one yet 
[16:56] <flocculant> or rather not added it locally - have a vm with it
[16:57] <bluesabre> probably wise
[16:59] <flocculant> though happy to check it out when asked of course
[16:59] <bluesabre> goodie
[17:00] <bluesabre> probably not going to pull in any gtk3 components for yakkety, but might start with z
[17:00] <flocculant> bluesabre: what font is that though - can check that first I guess
[17:01]  * flocculant uses noto sans 
[17:01] <flocculant> bluesabre: z works for QA :D
[17:01] <bluesabre> Fira Sans 10, https://launchpad.net/~bluesabre/+archive/ubuntu/fonts/+files/fonts-fira-sans_0.01+git-0~26fb0a2_all.deb
[17:01] <flocculant> oh right some random thing :D
[17:01] <bluesabre> flocculant, indeed, I'm sure you're not bothered by that at all ;)
[17:02] <flocculant> bluesabre: I will still be hanging around - just really need a rest from beating my head on that wall :p
[17:02] <bluesabre> understandably
[17:02] <bluesabre> maybe get some spackle and patch the hole you've left there
[17:02] <flocculant> :)
[17:03] <flocculant> ooh - -brb - that font's doing funky stuff 
[17:03] <bluesabre> :D
[17:04]  * bluesabre causes trouble
[17:05] <flocculant> not sure what that's all about
[17:06] <flocculant> could be out of line - REALLY hard to tell :p
[17:06] <flocculant> http://i.imgur.com/Z7U1dDl.png
[17:06]  * flocculant does a shrug and moves swiftly back 
[17:06] <bluesabre> ah
[17:06] <bluesabre> thats fira sans light
[17:07] <bluesabre> should be a regular option there somewhere, not that you'll ever be able to see again
[17:07] <bluesabre> or
[17:07] <bluesabre> "Thin"
[17:07] <bluesabre> it seems
[17:07] <bluesabre> hard to read ;)
[17:07] <flocculant> oh right ... 
[17:08] <flocculant> got it - pref apps looks fine here still
[17:09] <bluesabre> cool
[17:09] <bluesabre> so its greybird or exo, caused by me or ochosi :D
[17:09] <flocculant> well - it's something caused by someone that's not installed here :p
[17:10] <flocculant> if you want I can add the gtk ppa and check that here
[17:10] <bluesabre> nah, don't worry about it
[17:10] <flocculant> okey doke 
[17:11] <flocculant> bluesabre: when we get to beta, I'm going to let Dave decide for QA what position to take on release
[17:11] <bluesabre> flocculant, sounds good to me
[17:11] <flocculant> I'll still jump up and down for RC and final this time
[17:12] <bluesabre> :D
[17:12] <bluesabre> release tantrums are the best tantrums
[17:14] <flocculant> heh
[17:15] <flocculant> bluesabre: glad wqe got that sru finally, couldn't confirm the issue on trusty - but given only a few months left anyway 
[17:15] <flocculant> I think ...
[17:16] <flocculant> I still got a mild dislike of thunar though lol
[17:16] <bluesabre> flocculant, indeed, surprised it actually moved along without issue
[17:16] <flocculant> yea
[17:16] <flocculant> feel a bit to blame there - should have put my foot down at release 
[17:17] <bluesabre> flocculant, yeah... thunar isn't getting better (even in y), and I'm not opposed to moving to a different file manager, but that suggestion tends to rock the boat a bit
[17:17] <flocculant> yea 
[17:17] <flocculant> I understand *why*
[17:17] <flocculant> just believe that if we moved on then the fault(s) might get looked at more 
[17:18] <flocculant> though I don't know that for sure
[17:18] <bluesabre> yeah
[17:18] <flocculant> I can understand that it's pretty much core xfce, but on the other hand we're not xfce, we're xubuntu
[17:18]  * bluesabre agrees
[17:19] <flocculant> :)
[17:20] <flocculant> I guess at the end of the day - I take the problems more personally - cos I sign it off as ok from qa perspective - even though I don't want to and know it's broken
[17:20] <flocculant> but heyho - I get to not worry soon :)
[17:20] <bluesabre> :D
[17:20] <flocculant> I can watch Dave's hair fall out :p
[17:20] <flocculant> if he's got any that is 
[18:12] <akxwi-dave> not alot of it.. even less now its been cut this morning
[18:12] <knome> :)
[18:13] <flocculant> setting yourself up for a fall then :p
[18:13] <akxwi-dave> also re the file manager.. must admit I usually prefer nautilus
[18:14] <flocculant> I prefer pcmanfm
[18:15] <flocculant> well that's not quite true - I prefer thunar - but it's fighting back :)
[18:16] <flocculant> at least my main file manger problem is agnostic :D
[18:16] <flocculant> can't eject usb3
[18:16] <flocculant> and it stay ejected ...
[18:17] <akxwi-dave> well same here.. been using thunar mainly in the last few cycles....  only swap to nautilus now for when connecting to windows networks