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Bashing-omMission accomplished. North 40 done for the week .00:32
OerHeks:-)00:47
LimeadeI'm hoping I'm asking this in the correct channel: are there any guides for encrypted swap partition for 16.04? Or will the guides for 14.04 work still?01:32
Bashing-omNope, this is a coordination/discussion channel . You will get a broader audience in #ubuntu channel .01:34
LimeadeOk thanks. I didn't know if it was a true "support" question. :) Will do.01:35
Bashing-omsee ya there Limeade .01:36
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polarbearhello05:43
thinkypopey: i am using iphone at the moment but i would definetely buy if you release ubuntu phone10:51
thinkynative ubuntu not android10:51
popeysuper. maybe later, when there are phones available10:51
popeyit's possible to buy them on ebay10:52
thinkybut when? no plan for future?10:52
popeyI don't know, I don't work in that department10:52
thinkyok10:53
* popey goes to light a bbq in the rain10:55
popeyo/10:55
thinkyenjoy10:57
Ben64why not android now11:08
BluesKajHiyas all11:31
thinkyBen64: android is not professional, full of spams and virus11:51
thinkyit is garbage11:51
Ben64no11:52
Ben64only full of spams and virus if you install them, i suppose11:52
thinkyBen64: i have a lot of friends who use android phones all complaining about spams11:54
thinkythey turned to iphone11:54
Ben64anecdotal11:54
BluesKajthat's why I use use it as a phone with data turned off , even the wifi connections get spam etc, but taht's more controllable12:00
Ben64also depends what you mean by spam12:01
Ben64normally thats an email thing, not a phone thing12:01
BluesKajso called apps for advertized products12:01
Ben64?12:02
thinkymalwares virus etc12:05
thinkyBen64:12:05
thinkyapps mostly12:05
Ben64so don't install those :|12:05
thinkygoogle shouldnt allow everybody to create app12:05
Ben64just like any computing device12:05
thinkythere should be standart12:05
thinkyinternet is not secure why google allows everything in appstore?12:06
Ben64it doesn't allow everything12:06
thinkyi dont trust google12:06
thinkyi dont even use chrome anymore12:06
Ben64well thats on you12:06
thinkyBen64: i was using chrome for long time12:06
thinkysome months ago my credit card hacked12:07
thinkyeven i use antivirus on my pc12:07
Ben64just because you don't like google doesn't make your claims true12:07
thinkyBen64: telling you12:07
Ben64antivirus isn't 100%12:07
thinkyi usually do online shopping12:07
thinkyand i connect to my bank on internet12:07
Ben64cards can get stolen any number of ways12:08
thinkyon chrome12:08
Ben64quite silly to blame the browser12:08
Ben64more likely to be the site12:08
thinkywell that s the only think i blame at the moment12:08
Ben64doesn't even make sense12:08
thinkyit is for you12:08
Ben64so google stole your credit card?12:08
thinkyno google is not safe for online transactions12:08
Ben64so google stole your credit card?12:08
thinkyi mean it is not safe12:08
thinkyi dont say it stole12:09
thinkybut with unsecure browsing it prepared the position12:09
Ben64no that was your fault for browsing to sites without proper security12:09
Ben64that would happen on literally any browser12:09
thinkyi choose sites when i do online shop12:09
Ben64not carefully enough12:10
thinkyebay, amazon ..12:10
BluesKajc'mon Ben64 you know what he means, someone found an exploit on the purchase site . probly ebay ...amazon is quite secure12:11
Ben64no, it doesn't make any sense12:11
Ben64implying google is complicit in whatever happened to the credit card information is ridiculous12:12
thinkyBen64 google chrome is not totally secure12:12
thinkyi wanna give u example12:12
Ben64please do12:12
thinkywhen u search on bing it doesnt show u pornographic12:12
thinkybut gogle does12:13
thinkygoogle*12:13
BluesKajthinky, it's not the browser, it's the site12:13
thinkygoogle search12:13
Ben64what? bing is known for being a great place to search for porn12:13
Ben64and that has nothing to do with the browser12:13
thinkywrite p..y on bing12:13
thinkyjust example12:13
thinkysorry12:13
Ben64yep, comes up with porn12:13
thinkynot in my location maybe12:13
thinkygoogle giving a lot of results12:14
BluesKajhave fun guys12:14
thinkyanyway internet is not secure at all12:14
Ben64"the internet" has never been secure12:14
thinkyi dont trust antivirus too12:14
Ben64<thinky> even i use antivirus on my pc12:14
thinkymy facebook account hacked too :S12:14
thinkyyes12:15
Ben64you probably have a virus12:15
thinkyi use antivirus too12:15
Ben64don't blame chrome for your mistakes12:15
thinkyBen64: i am using internet properly beleive me12:15
thinkymore than many ppl12:15
thinkybut it happened12:15
thinkythen i decided to change the browser12:15
Ben64i have trouble believing you after you got your cc# taken, and your facebook hacked12:16
Ben64sounds an awful lot like user error12:16
thinkyBen64: come on12:16
thinkydoes google pay you?12:17
Ben64nope12:17
thinkywhy u pointing me all the time?12:17
thinkyit is always possible browser mistake and user mistake12:17
thinkyit is hard to find out that12:17
Ben64i don't like people spreading FUD12:17
thinkyi am trying to be careful when i surf in internet12:18
thinkyalso when i do online shopping12:18
thinkybut it just happened12:18
thinkyit is my decision to leave chrome12:18
thinkyopera is fine but not good enough12:18
Ben64yeah thats fine, but don't go around saying it's not secure12:18
thinkyBen64: i dont trust google12:19
thinkyit is my opinion12:19
Ben64that's fine too12:19
Ben64but don't spread lies12:19
thinkyi am free to tell12:19
thinkyit is not lie12:19
thinkyi tell my ideas about it12:19
thinkyit is my right12:19
Ben64"i don't trust google" - opinion12:19
Ben64"google is not secure" - false12:19
thinkygoogle is search engine12:19
thinkythey dont need need to get in all field to get bigger company12:19
thinkythey produce phone, laptop, browser, app, bla bla bla ...12:20
Ben64yep12:20
thinkyfull of garbage12:20
Ben64they make good stuff, you don't have to use any of it12:20
thinkynot in my opinion12:21
NoSeeUbuntu touch was underrated13:17
lotuspsychjegood evening to all18:51
OerHekshey hey lotuspsychje18:53
lotuspsychjehey OerHeks18:54
lotuspsychjehow are you18:54
OerHeksFine, cooked last few days .. and you?18:54
lotuspsychjeall fine here18:54
lotuspsychjeOerHeks: pretty busy at work18:56
lotuspsychjeOerHeks: i hope to work less hours from september18:56
lotuspsychjeand 1 week holiday is planned last week18:58
OerHeksYes i understand, what to do with all that money when you have no time spending it18:58
lotuspsychjetrue true18:58
lotuspsychjemust be a good balance between work & life18:58
ikoniawin 419:01
lotuspsychje4?19:02
OerHeksblackjack or backgammon i think19:03
ikoniaor just a typo19:09
lotuspsychjelol19:09
lotuspsychjehttp://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/08/kde-connect-1-stable-release19:40
lotuspsychjehi ComputerPassion19:40
lotuspsychjehey BluesKaj19:46
BluesKajhi lotuspsychje,how's things ?19:47
lotuspsychjefine tnx19:47
lotuspsychjealot of work and alot of sunshine :p19:48
BluesKajgood :-)19:48
lotuspsychjewelcome20:09
Exterminadorhey guys.  did anyone ever tried qweechat? is that GUI or CLI?20:09
Exterminadorty lotuspsychje20:10
lotuspsychjeim on hexchat Exterminador20:10
Exterminadorto be honest, i dont like it20:10
Exterminadori've used it twice20:10
lotuspsychjedidnt use weechat myself20:10
lotuspsychje!info weechat20:11
ubot5weechat (source: weechat): Fast, light and extensible chat client. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4-2 (xenial), package size 2 kB, installed size 60 kB20:11
Exterminadorand the interface is kinda weird for me that always have used Windows and GUI irc clients20:11
OerHeksSO you ask if it is gui or cli, but you used it twice :-D20:11
ExterminadorOerHeks: hexchat yes, twice.. qweechat never20:12
Exterminadorand weechat neither.. just Irssi.. :)20:12
lotuspsychjeExterminador: tryout a few perhaps20:12
Exterminadori know weechat is CLI..20:12
daxqweechat isn't really what i'd call active20:12
Exterminadornot sure abt qweechat20:12
OerHeksoh qweechat is no typo ..?20:13
daxqweechat is also not a standalone client, it's a relay for weechat20:13
daxOerHeks: https://github.com/weechat/qweechat20:13
Exterminadordang20:13
daxsimilar to how weechat-android is a relay for weechat and not standalone either20:13
Exterminadorso, weechat or Irssi.. always stuck to CLI.. i really need to understand how HexChat works on aliases and stuff20:14
Exterminadori need GUI20:14
daxif you need GUI, why are you pondering weechat and irssi...20:14
daxjust use hexchat20:14
Exterminadorlike i've said, i dont like the GUI of hexchat much20:15
Exterminadorand i have no clue how aliases work20:15
lotuspsychjeExterminador: what kind of GUI are you looking for exactly?20:16
Exterminadorlotuspsychje: something like AdiIRC20:16
OerHekshexchat with standard settings is boring indeed.20:17
Exterminadorand now, the most weird question.. any GUI vpn app like HotSpotShield? :x20:17
lotuspsychjehttps://dev.adiirc.com/boards/6/topics/195?r=20720:18
lotuspsychjeadiirc screens, lemme take a look20:18
lotuspsychjelooks like the Mirc20:19
Exterminadorit's a kinda fork20:20
Exterminadorfree of charge20:20
Exterminadorit's Open Source Software, i guess20:21
Exterminadori know i need wine20:21
lotuspsychjeExterminador: depends what you really need of adiirc, many clients do have themes20:22
Exterminadorto run it on Xubuntu.. but i'm having a few errors relating to wine20:22
Exterminadorlotuspsychje: AdiIRC uses the same system of aliases as mIRC20:23
Exterminadorso, to create a connection alias is /bla /server -m host:port20:23
Exterminadori.e to a znc is /znc /server -m host:port user:pass20:24
Exterminadorhow do i create that on hexchat?20:24
Exterminador:x20:24
lotuspsychjeExterminador: talk to the #hexchat guys20:24
lotuspsychjeits a pretty decent client20:25
lotuspsychjealso for security reasons, i wouldnt go messing with mirc kind of client20:25
Exterminadorwhy not?20:26
lotuspsychjeExterminador: i mean choose a well supported client for ubuntu20:26
Exterminadoradiirc is well supported20:26
lotuspsychjeon windows?20:27
Exterminadori guess20:27
Exterminadoralso on linux (with wine)20:27
lotuspsychjethat doesnt make it safe20:27
Exterminadornatively, i know hexchat is one of the bests20:27
Exterminadoror xChat20:27
lotuspsychje!xchat20:27
ubot5xchat and xchat-gnome have not had stable releases in years. xchat was removed from Ubuntu for 16.04. Consider using hexchat instead, which is actively developed and available in 14.04 onwards.20:27
Exterminadorwow20:28
ExterminadorRIP xChat20:28
lotuspsychjeExterminador: tryout a few, hexchat,konversation,chatzilla,etc20:29
lotuspsychjethen makeup your mind what you likle best20:29
Exterminadorabout wine, i ask here or in #ubuntu?20:30
lotuspsychjehttps://www.slant.co/topics/1323/~irc-clients-for-linux20:31
lotuspsychjeExterminador: ubuntu related issues, feel free to ask #ubuntu to get more chance of solving20:32
Exterminadorlotuspsychje: ty a lot again.. i'm kinda new to linux and it's the first time in my life i use a GUI distro20:33
Exterminadorand about a GUI Vpn? i cant access irc throught the hotspot i use, without a vpn.. :x20:38
lotuspsychjeExterminador: also ask in #ubuntu support chat please20:39
lotuspsychje(if using vpn + ubuntu20:39
lotuspsychjeim outa here guys, working day tomorrow20:56
lotuspsychjenite nite20:57

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