[00:32] <Bashing-om> Mission accomplished. North 40 done for the week .
[00:47] <OerHeks> :-)
[01:32] <Limeade> I'm hoping I'm asking this in the correct channel: are there any guides for encrypted swap partition for 16.04? Or will the guides for 14.04 work still?
[01:34] <Bashing-om> Nope, this is a coordination/discussion channel . You will get a broader audience in #ubuntu channel .
[01:35] <Limeade> Ok thanks. I didn't know if it was a true "support" question. :) Will do.
[01:36] <Bashing-om> see ya there Limeade .
[05:43] <polarbear> hello
[10:51] <thinky> popey: i am using iphone at the moment but i would definetely buy if you release ubuntu phone
[10:51] <thinky> native ubuntu not android
[10:51] <popey> super. maybe later, when there are phones available
[10:52] <popey> it's possible to buy them on ebay
[10:52] <thinky> but when? no plan for future?
[10:52] <popey> I don't know, I don't work in that department
[10:53] <thinky> ok
[10:55]  * popey goes to light a bbq in the rain
[10:55] <popey> o/
[10:57] <thinky> enjoy
[11:08] <Ben64> why not android now
[11:31] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:51] <thinky> Ben64: android is not professional, full of spams and virus
[11:51] <thinky> it is garbage
[11:52] <Ben64> no
[11:52] <Ben64> only full of spams and virus if you install them, i suppose
[11:54] <thinky> Ben64: i have a lot of friends who use android phones all complaining about spams
[11:54] <thinky> they turned to iphone
[11:54] <Ben64> anecdotal
[12:00] <BluesKaj> that's why I use use it as a phone with data turned off , even the wifi connections get spam etc, but taht's more controllable
[12:01] <Ben64> also depends what you mean by spam
[12:01] <Ben64> normally thats an email thing, not a phone thing
[12:01] <BluesKaj> so called apps for advertized products
[12:02] <Ben64> ?
[12:05] <thinky> malwares virus etc
[12:05] <thinky> Ben64:
[12:05] <thinky> apps mostly
[12:05] <Ben64> so don't install those :|
[12:05] <thinky> google shouldnt allow everybody to create app
[12:05] <Ben64> just like any computing device
[12:05] <thinky> there should be standart
[12:06] <thinky> internet is not secure why google allows everything in appstore?
[12:06] <Ben64> it doesn't allow everything
[12:06] <thinky> i dont trust google
[12:06] <thinky> i dont even use chrome anymore
[12:06] <Ben64> well thats on you
[12:06] <thinky> Ben64: i was using chrome for long time
[12:07] <thinky> some months ago my credit card hacked
[12:07] <thinky> even i use antivirus on my pc
[12:07] <Ben64> just because you don't like google doesn't make your claims true
[12:07] <thinky> Ben64: telling you
[12:07] <Ben64> antivirus isn't 100%
[12:07] <thinky> i usually do online shopping
[12:07] <thinky> and i connect to my bank on internet
[12:08] <Ben64> cards can get stolen any number of ways
[12:08] <thinky> on chrome
[12:08] <Ben64> quite silly to blame the browser
[12:08] <Ben64> more likely to be the site
[12:08] <thinky> well that s the only think i blame at the moment
[12:08] <Ben64> doesn't even make sense
[12:08] <thinky> it is for you
[12:08] <Ben64> so google stole your credit card?
[12:08] <thinky> no google is not safe for online transactions
[12:08] <Ben64> so google stole your credit card?
[12:08] <thinky> i mean it is not safe
[12:09] <thinky> i dont say it stole
[12:09] <thinky> but with unsecure browsing it prepared the position
[12:09] <Ben64> no that was your fault for browsing to sites without proper security
[12:09] <Ben64> that would happen on literally any browser
[12:09] <thinky> i choose sites when i do online shop
[12:10] <Ben64> not carefully enough
[12:10] <thinky> ebay, amazon ..
[12:11] <BluesKaj> c'mon Ben64 you know what he means, someone found an exploit on the purchase site . probly ebay ...amazon is quite secure
[12:11] <Ben64> no, it doesn't make any sense
[12:12] <Ben64> implying google is complicit in whatever happened to the credit card information is ridiculous
[12:12] <thinky> Ben64 google chrome is not totally secure
[12:12] <thinky> i wanna give u example
[12:12] <Ben64> please do
[12:12] <thinky> when u search on bing it doesnt show u pornographic
[12:13] <thinky> but gogle does
[12:13] <thinky> google*
[12:13] <BluesKaj> thinky, it's not the browser, it's the site
[12:13] <thinky> google search
[12:13] <Ben64> what? bing is known for being a great place to search for porn
[12:13] <Ben64> and that has nothing to do with the browser
[12:13] <thinky> write p..y on bing
[12:13] <thinky> just example
[12:13] <thinky> sorry
[12:13] <Ben64> yep, comes up with porn
[12:13] <thinky> not in my location maybe
[12:14] <thinky> google giving a lot of results
[12:14] <BluesKaj> have fun guys
[12:14] <thinky> anyway internet is not secure at all
[12:14] <Ben64> "the internet" has never been secure
[12:14] <thinky> i dont trust antivirus too
 even i use antivirus on my pc
[12:14] <thinky> my facebook account hacked too :S
[12:15] <thinky> yes
[12:15] <Ben64> you probably have a virus
[12:15] <thinky> i use antivirus too
[12:15] <Ben64> don't blame chrome for your mistakes
[12:15] <thinky> Ben64: i am using internet properly beleive me
[12:15] <thinky> more than many ppl
[12:15] <thinky> but it happened
[12:15] <thinky> then i decided to change the browser
[12:16] <Ben64> i have trouble believing you after you got your cc# taken, and your facebook hacked
[12:16] <Ben64> sounds an awful lot like user error
[12:16] <thinky> Ben64: come on
[12:17] <thinky> does google pay you?
[12:17] <Ben64> nope
[12:17] <thinky> why u pointing me all the time?
[12:17] <thinky> it is always possible browser mistake and user mistake
[12:17] <thinky> it is hard to find out that
[12:17] <Ben64> i don't like people spreading FUD
[12:18] <thinky> i am trying to be careful when i surf in internet
[12:18] <thinky> also when i do online shopping
[12:18] <thinky> but it just happened
[12:18] <thinky> it is my decision to leave chrome
[12:18] <thinky> opera is fine but not good enough
[12:18] <Ben64> yeah thats fine, but don't go around saying it's not secure
[12:19] <thinky> Ben64: i dont trust google
[12:19] <thinky> it is my opinion
[12:19] <Ben64> that's fine too
[12:19] <Ben64> but don't spread lies
[12:19] <thinky> i am free to tell
[12:19] <thinky> it is not lie
[12:19] <thinky> i tell my ideas about it
[12:19] <thinky> it is my right
[12:19] <Ben64> "i don't trust google" - opinion
[12:19] <Ben64> "google is not secure" - false
[12:19] <thinky> google is search engine
[12:19] <thinky> they dont need need to get in all field to get bigger company
[12:20] <thinky> they produce phone, laptop, browser, app, bla bla bla ...
[12:20] <Ben64> yep
[12:20] <thinky> full of garbage
[12:20] <Ben64> they make good stuff, you don't have to use any of it
[12:21] <thinky> not in my opinion
[13:17] <NoSee> Ubuntu touch was underrated
[18:51] <lotuspsychje> good evening to all
[18:53] <OerHeks> hey hey lotuspsychje
[18:54] <lotuspsychje> hey OerHeks
[18:54] <lotuspsychje> how are you
[18:54] <OerHeks> Fine, cooked last few days .. and you?
[18:54] <lotuspsychje> all fine here
[18:56] <lotuspsychje> OerHeks: pretty busy at work
[18:56] <lotuspsychje> OerHeks: i hope to work less hours from september
[18:58] <lotuspsychje> and 1 week holiday is planned last week
[18:58] <OerHeks> Yes i understand, what to do with all that money when you have no time spending it
[18:58] <lotuspsychje> true true
[18:58] <lotuspsychje> must be a good balance between work & life
[19:01] <ikonia> win 4
[19:02] <lotuspsychje> 4?
[19:03] <OerHeks> blackjack or backgammon i think
[19:09] <ikonia> or just a typo
[19:09] <lotuspsychje> lol
[19:40] <lotuspsychje> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/08/kde-connect-1-stable-release
[19:40] <lotuspsychje> hi ComputerPassion
[19:46] <lotuspsychje> hey BluesKaj
[19:47] <BluesKaj> hi lotuspsychje,how's things ?
[19:47] <lotuspsychje> fine tnx
[19:48] <lotuspsychje> alot of work and alot of sunshine :p
[19:48] <BluesKaj> good :-)
[20:09] <lotuspsychje> welcome
[20:09] <Exterminador> hey guys.  did anyone ever tried qweechat? is that GUI or CLI?
[20:10] <Exterminador> ty lotuspsychje
[20:10] <lotuspsychje> im on hexchat Exterminador
[20:10] <Exterminador> to be honest, i dont like it
[20:10] <Exterminador> i've used it twice
[20:10] <lotuspsychje> didnt use weechat myself
[20:11] <lotuspsychje> !info weechat
[20:11] <Exterminador> and the interface is kinda weird for me that always have used Windows and GUI irc clients
[20:11] <OerHeks> SO you ask if it is gui or cli, but you used it twice :-D
[20:12] <Exterminador> OerHeks: hexchat yes, twice.. qweechat never
[20:12] <Exterminador> and weechat neither.. just Irssi.. :)
[20:12] <lotuspsychje> Exterminador: tryout a few perhaps
[20:12] <Exterminador> i know weechat is CLI..
[20:12] <dax> qweechat isn't really what i'd call active
[20:12] <Exterminador> not sure abt qweechat
[20:13] <OerHeks> oh qweechat is no typo ..?
[20:13] <dax> qweechat is also not a standalone client, it's a relay for weechat
[20:13] <dax> OerHeks: https://github.com/weechat/qweechat
[20:13] <Exterminador> dang
[20:13] <dax> similar to how weechat-android is a relay for weechat and not standalone either
[20:14] <Exterminador> so, weechat or Irssi.. always stuck to CLI.. i really need to understand how HexChat works on aliases and stuff
[20:14] <Exterminador> i need GUI
[20:14] <dax> if you need GUI, why are you pondering weechat and irssi...
[20:14] <dax> just use hexchat
[20:15] <Exterminador> like i've said, i dont like the GUI of hexchat much
[20:15] <Exterminador> and i have no clue how aliases work
[20:16] <lotuspsychje> Exterminador: what kind of GUI are you looking for exactly?
[20:16] <Exterminador> lotuspsychje: something like AdiIRC
[20:17] <OerHeks> hexchat with standard settings is boring indeed.
[20:17] <Exterminador> and now, the most weird question.. any GUI vpn app like HotSpotShield? :x
[20:18] <lotuspsychje> https://dev.adiirc.com/boards/6/topics/195?r=207
[20:18] <lotuspsychje> adiirc screens, lemme take a look
[20:19] <lotuspsychje> looks like the Mirc
[20:20] <Exterminador> it's a kinda fork
[20:20] <Exterminador> free of charge
[20:21] <Exterminador> it's Open Source Software, i guess
[20:21] <Exterminador> i know i need wine
[20:22] <lotuspsychje> Exterminador: depends what you really need of adiirc, many clients do have themes
[20:22] <Exterminador> to run it on Xubuntu.. but i'm having a few errors relating to wine
[20:23] <Exterminador> lotuspsychje: AdiIRC uses the same system of aliases as mIRC
[20:23] <Exterminador> so, to create a connection alias is /bla /server -m host:port
[20:24] <Exterminador> i.e to a znc is /znc /server -m host:port user:pass
[20:24] <Exterminador> how do i create that on hexchat?
[20:24] <Exterminador> :x
[20:24] <lotuspsychje> Exterminador: talk to the #hexchat guys
[20:25] <lotuspsychje> its a pretty decent client
[20:25] <lotuspsychje> also for security reasons, i wouldnt go messing with mirc kind of client
[20:26] <Exterminador> why not?
[20:26] <lotuspsychje> Exterminador: i mean choose a well supported client for ubuntu
[20:26] <Exterminador> adiirc is well supported
[20:27] <lotuspsychje> on windows?
[20:27] <Exterminador> i guess
[20:27] <Exterminador> also on linux (with wine)
[20:27] <lotuspsychje> that doesnt make it safe
[20:27] <Exterminador> natively, i know hexchat is one of the bests
[20:27] <Exterminador> or xChat
[20:27] <lotuspsychje> !xchat
[20:28] <Exterminador> wow
[20:28] <Exterminador> RIP xChat
[20:29] <lotuspsychje> Exterminador: tryout a few, hexchat,konversation,chatzilla,etc
[20:29] <lotuspsychje> then makeup your mind what you likle best
[20:30] <Exterminador> about wine, i ask here or in #ubuntu?
[20:31] <lotuspsychje> https://www.slant.co/topics/1323/~irc-clients-for-linux
[20:32] <lotuspsychje> Exterminador: ubuntu related issues, feel free to ask #ubuntu to get more chance of solving
[20:33] <Exterminador> lotuspsychje: ty a lot again.. i'm kinda new to linux and it's the first time in my life i use a GUI distro
[20:38] <Exterminador> and about a GUI Vpn? i cant access irc throught the hotspot i use, without a vpn.. :x
[20:39] <lotuspsychje> Exterminador: also ask in #ubuntu support chat please
[20:39] <lotuspsychje> (if using vpn + ubuntu
[20:56] <lotuspsychje> im outa here guys, working day tomorrow
[20:57] <lotuspsychje> nite nite