[00:53] <quantibility> my screen keeps staying blank when i restart the computer, it takes 3 or 5 times before it comes back up.
[00:54] <quantibility> any way to fix this?
[00:54] <quantibility> porfavor
[00:56] <quantibility> hello? ive been in the freaking room days now and no one out of 116 people is paying any mine.
[00:56] <quantibility> except when people make comments about the bots.. now please can someone come up with a answer to this question
[00:59] <quantibility> my screen keeps staying blank when i restart the computer, it takes 3 or 5 times before it comes back up.
[00:59] <quantibility> my screen keeps staying blank when i restart the computer, it takes 3 or 5 times before it comes back up.
[00:59] <quantibility> my screen keeps staying blank when i restart the computer, it takes 3 or 5 times before it comes back up.
[00:59] <quantibility> my screen keeps staying blank when i restart the computer, it takes 3 or 5 times before it comes back up.
[00:59] <quantibility> my screen keeps staying blank when i restart the computer, it takes 3 or 5 times before it comes back up.
[01:00] <quantibility> my screen keeps staying blank when i restart the computer, it takes 3 or 5 times before it comes back up.
[01:01] <quantibility> this is supposed to be about xubuntu help.. why isn't anyone helping
[01:01] <quantibility> ??
[01:02] <sinewav> quantibility: what version of xubuntu and what kind of computer?
[01:03] <quantibility>  HexChat: 2.10.2 ** OS: Linux 4.4.0-34-generic x86_64 ** Distro: Ubuntu "xenial" 16.04 ** CPU: 4 x AMD A8-3520M APU with Radeon(tm) HD Graphics (AuthenticAMD) @ 900MHz ** RAM: Physical: 5.3GiB, 46.5% free ** Disk: Total: 452.9GiB, 68.6% free ** VGA: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] BeaverCreek [Radeon HD 6620G] ** Sound: HDA-Intel - HD-Audio Generic1: HDA-Intel - HD-Audio Generic **
[01:03] <quantibility> Ethernet: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. CIe Gigabit Ethernet ** Uptime: 1d 6h 25m 20s **
[01:03] <quantibility> thank you sinewav
[01:05] <quantibility> i believe that it has something to do with dual screen but it happens when i turn it off too
[01:06] <quantibility> but as soon as i upgraded it went to crap
[01:06] <sinewav> Is this a laptop or desktop?
[01:06] <quantibility> laptop
[01:07] <sinewav> ah ok. Is the vga cable plugged in when you boot up?
[01:07] <quantibility> hdmi and sometimes
[01:08] <quantibility> i was wondering if the MINT fix would work on Xubuntu
[01:08] <quantibility> but i want some advice from someone before i do that
[01:09] <sinewav> Disclaimer: I am not a developer. I had a similar problem with xubuntu. If I started my computer with the external monitor plugged in I would often get a blank screen. I can't say for sure, but I think it might be related to xubuntu only. I have since switched to MATE and I have not had this problem.
[01:10] <sinewav> So unfortunately I don't know if it is XFCE that is the problem.
[01:10] <sinewav> I am not having the problem with MATE.
[01:10] <sinewav> To me that says it might be related to the desktop environment rather than Ubuntu.
[01:12] <sinewav> On Xubuntu, it would always boot fine when the external monitor cable was unplugged. Also, sometimes the screen would come on if I pressed the laptop's function key to switch LCD/VGA modes.
[01:12] <quantibility> the developers don't pay much mind to things.. or they don't test it enough cause now whenever i open a zip file my indicators go screwy and need to be shut down cause it will keep popping up.. don't understand why zipping and unzipping files causes that issue but it does
[01:13] <sinewav> There are big time bugs in XFCE and Thunar, which is why I am using MATE. I Love Xubuntu, but there are currently too many little annoyances with it.
[01:14] <sinewav> Still, I hope to return to using it one day, which is why I lurk in this channel -- to hear good news.
[01:14] <quantibility> well one is the indicators don't stay to the side anymore they keep hugging the menu icon.. but move over when ever i open something but always hugging left... it happened the moment i started adding and removing stuff.. they needs a better programmer
[01:15] <sinewav> One of the problems with these types of problems, especially the one you are having, is because it's not always clear if the bug is in Ubuntu or XFCE. Those are two separate development teams.
[01:15] <sinewav> Sometimes you report a but to Ubuntu and they say "not our problem, try reporting to XFCE"
[01:15] <sinewav> And vice verse.
[01:16] <quantibility> ugh
[01:16] <quantibility> "not our problem" is a punkass way to get out of it
[01:16] <morf> not our problem ;)
[01:16] <sinewav> I will say this, my boss at work has Xubuntu on a dual monitor setup with his desktop tower and it works flawlessly, so again, it could be related to laptops!
[01:17] <quantibility> probably
[01:17] <morf> i have tested all major UIs for linux
[01:17] <sinewav> In that case it would be Ubuntu, but then again, they might pass the buck upstream to Debian...
[01:17] <morf> returned hapily to xfce :P
[01:18] <sinewav> XFCE rocks, it's my fav. I just need it to be a wee bit more stable...
[01:18] <morf> dunno what do you mean, i'm using it for years without any major issues
[01:18] <quantibility> here's a way to fix the stupid "problem" that is not either one's. Try not combining teams to help make a ONE OS.. grow some nuts people and get it all together so no one can say "its not our problem"
[01:18] <sinewav> morf: yeah, it works great in most environments, I just happen to have a problematic one.
[01:19] <quantibility> poor practices by all.
[01:19] <sinewav> quantibility: That's how open source works. You can always go MS or Mac!
[01:21] <quantibility> yeah i know how open source works.. its just that people who try to help develop don't put enough effort in it and shouldn't bother trying. Bugs can be found if the person goes beyond getting that one thing to work and testing the entire system.. and if someone comes with an issue that person doing it should be on top of the shit.. but ya know the human race is lazy.
[01:22] <sinewav> The type of bug you have might be hardware specific, which is much harder to fix because you need that hardware in your development chain. That's all I'm sayin.
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[01:24] <sinewav> I do my best to donate to ubuntu/xfce/etc when I can so it helps developers out. As someone who has worked on an open source project it really is a labor of love and an overwhelming amount of work.
[01:24] <quantibility> perhaps. i wish i could connect a test board to this computer and catch all the calls the graphics card calls
[01:24] <quantibility> i believe you
[01:26] <Guest29279> ok... I never get on stuff like this but I have never had this problem before. I just installed Xubuntu on VMware and everything is working fine ran a basic update and now my passwords do not work... Tryed reinstalling again same thing.
[01:27] <quantibility> ??
[01:27] <quantibility> Guest
[01:27] <quantibility> have you tried.. nothing for a password?
[01:27] <Guest29279> no.. let me try
[01:27] <Guest29279> does not work
[01:28] <quantibility> but you original passwords do not work?
[01:28] <Guest29279> yes
[01:28] <quantibility> interesting
[01:28] <quantibility> you are stuck at the sign in screen right?
[01:28] <Guest29279> but its just after a update
[01:28] <quantibility> yeah i know i read that
[01:28] <Guest29279> it works fine till then
[01:29] <quantibility> we are talking about the password to sign in after boot up right?
[01:29] <sinewav> did you make a snapshot right before updating?
[01:29] <Guest29279> yes I am stuck in the sign in screen now
[01:29] <quantibility> wow
[01:29] <quantibility> ive never had that problem either
[01:29] <quantibility> thats a first for me
[01:29] <Guest29279> me too
[01:30] <quantibility> do you know how to sign in as an admin?
[01:30] <Guest29279> as root?
[01:30] <quantibility> yes
[01:30] <Guest29279> yes
[01:31] <quantibility> try that.. unless you set a password for it
[01:31] <Guest29279> ok
[01:31] <quantibility> cause if you get in as root you can change the password
[01:31] <quantibility> for your account
[01:32] <Guest29279> nope still not working
[01:32] <quantibility> you sure you caps locks are not on?
[01:33] <quantibility> you cap lock is not on?
[01:33] <Guest29279> nope
[01:34] <quantibility> dude, like im surprised
[01:34] <quantibility> try.. admin as a password
[01:34] <quantibility> "admin"
[01:34] <Guest29279> ok.. hold on
[01:35] <Guest29279> still not working
[01:35] <quantibility> fu*k
[01:35] <quantibility> now im getting irritated
[01:35] <quantibility> lol
[01:36] <Guest29279> its fine if I don't install the last security update
[01:36] <quantibility> ugh
[01:36] <quantibility> i got one last hope for you if it works
[01:36] <sinewav> What's that key you press to boot to a command propmt?
[01:37] <sinewav> wait, I guess that wouldn't work either if you can't login as root. Might not even have a root password.
[01:37] <quantibility> try restarting and using the previous version at grub screen.. if the password doesn't work then i don't know what the issue is
[01:39] <Guest29279> well just thought I would say something about it because it seems to have something to do with the update.... Thanks
[01:39] <quantibility> what update?
[01:39] <quantibility> the latest?
[01:39] <quantibility> cause i see it
[01:39] <quantibility> just haven't updated
[01:39] <quantibility> wondering if i should avoid
[01:39] <quantibility> lol
[01:40] <Guest29279> well... I would test it first in vmware.
[01:40] <Guest29279> or vbox
[01:41] <quantibility> hmmm
[01:41] <Guest29279> I just like to run the security updates
[01:42] <Guest29279> but I guess I will pass
[01:44] <Guest29279> I can still get in as guest
[01:46] <quantibility> then try loging in through terminal
[01:46] <quantibility> if not go straight to admin to erase and make a new password
[01:54] <Guest29279> ok... I got in
[01:58] <quantibility> awesome
[01:58] <quantibility> wtf was the problem
[01:58] <quantibility> wasn't accepting the password
[01:59] <quantibility> ??
[01:59] <Guest29279> I guess
[01:59] <quantibility> thats some horse sh*t
[02:01] <Guest29279> I tryed it on two different install and had the same problem, right after the update...
[02:02] <quantibility> jeeze
[02:02] <quantibility> someone messed up
[02:02] <quantibility> but you can get in now right?
[02:02] <Guest29279> but it seems to be working with the update now
[02:02] <Guest29279> maybe it was a VMware problem
[02:03] <quantibility> or
[02:03] <Guest29279> anyways thanks for your help
[02:03] <quantibility> you probably needed a space before the password
[02:03] <quantibility> your welcome
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[12:43] <confusedbynature> anyone around?
[12:47] <knome> no, we're all hiding
[12:47] <knome> oops, i blew our cover.
[12:48] <knome> or in other words, why don't you ask the real question and find out?
[15:26] <imthenachoman> hey guys, what version of xfce is with xubuntu 16.04?
[15:31] <pleia2> imthenachoman: searching on packages.ubuntu.com I'm told 4.12.2 http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=xfce4
[15:32] <knome> 4.12 indeed
[16:50] <imthenachoman> thanks guys
[16:50] <imthenachoman> didn't know 16.04 is called xenial
[16:50] <imthenachoman> i hate tehse names
[16:50] <imthenachoman> why can't they just use 16.04
[16:50] <imthenachoman> bleh
[16:50] <imthenachoman> anyway, thanks. bye all
[17:28] <green1> can i use unity tweak tool in xubuntu?
[17:31] <green1> someone pls help me, can i use unity tweak tool in xubuntu?
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[21:29] <xubuntu12d> Does anyone know why 16.04 does not display panel and desktop? I get a panel for login on my A10-6800 based system, but only the wallpaper for a desktop.
[21:32] <xubuntu12d> I've downgraded, done a clean install, and still have no icons or panel (systray).
[21:41] <Rarrikins> xubuntu12d: There are a few different problems people have found https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=xubuntu+16.04+desktop+icons+missing
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[22:11] <xubuntu19d> So, I went through the links and had done most of them already. Apparently, this problem is not caused by any of those problems.
[22:12] <xubuntu19d> It has not helped in getting my panel and icons back. I have removed the splash screen as well. Now I will attempt to check more logs.
[22:41] <IvanDSM> Hey everyone, I'm using 14.04.2 and am using the 4.2.0-42-lowlatency kernel from the repositories. I want to know if it is vunerable to the Off-path TCP Exploit.