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| pitti | (whoops, forgot to reset on Friday) | 04:32 |
| pitti | Good morning | 04:32 |
| jbicha_ | pitti: good morning, have you seen bug 1614820 ? | 04:37 |
| ubottu | bug 1614820 in apport (Ubuntu) "Respect gsettings org.gnome.desktop.privacy report-technical-problems" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1614820 | 04:37 |
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| pitti | jbicha_: hey, good morning! I saw it fly by, just haven't looked at it yet (ETIME, sorry) | 04:38 |
| jbicha | ok, maybe next release cycle then | 04:39 |
| pitti | jbicha: it would be really hard to avoid generating the /var/crash/ files, but merely not reporting them should be fairly straightforward in apport-gtk? | 04:48 |
| pitti | jbicha: i. e. this is just checking for that gsettings key? | 04:48 |
| pitti | org.gnome.desktop.privacy report-technical-problems false | 04:50 |
| pitti | jbicha: but why is this off by default? | 04:50 |
| pitti | jbicha: we certainly don't want that | 04:50 |
| jbicha | we can ship a gsettings override, perhaps in apport itself, for that | 04:52 |
| pitti | jbicha: not in apport, that would be rude (changing defaults of some other package) | 04:52 |
| jbicha | the package is gsettings-desktop-schemas | 04:53 |
| jbicha | we have lots of overrides in ubuntu-default-settings and ubuntu-gnome-default-settings but some people don't have those installed | 04:53 |
| jbicha | (ubuntu-settings) | 04:53 |
| jbicha | the only thing actually using that key right now I believe is Fedora's abrt so it doesn't hurt anything to set that key how we want it | 04:54 |
| pitti | jbicha: another concern is that we already have such a setting somewhere ("Send error reports to Canonical") | 04:57 |
| pitti | so that ^ one should move to this new official key | 04:57 |
| pitti | I followed up to the bug with a summary | 04:57 |
| jbicha | pitti: the gsettings key is from update-notifier so maybe that part of the bug doesn't need any apport changes | 05:04 |
| jbicha | but the other part of the bug is that GNOME expects the bug reporting service to run a org.freedesktop.problems.daemon dbus service, what do you think about that? | 05:05 |
| pitti | jbicha: apport isn't a daemon, what should this do? | 05:11 |
| pitti | and what happens if it's not there? | 05:11 |
| jbicha | if it's not there, GNOME doesn't show the on/off switch to report bugs in Intial Setup and gnome-control-center's Privacy pages | 05:12 |
| jbicha | we could run a service that does nothing (that works) or we could patch the 2 apps to skip checking for that service | 05:13 |
| jbicha | I guess patching the apps would be better if there's no reason otherwise for apport to listen on dbus | 05:32 |
| pitti | rharper, smoser: FYI, netplan 0.10 just landed in y, with support for vlan | 05:59 |
| pitti | mwhudson, rharper, smoser: I'm going to look into wifi with networkd first (blocking ogra), is there anything else which is blocking you wrt. netplan? | 06:00 |
| cpaelzer | good morning | 06:16 |
| mwhudson | pitti: if you could spend 5 mins looking at https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/1765 that'd be great | 07:15 |
| mwhudson | pitti: but i am off sick _and_ EOD so no hurry :) | 07:16 |
| LocutusOfBorg | jbicha, hi, do you plan to look at kido? | 07:21 |
| LocutusOfBorg | I see some upstream activity | 07:22 |
| jbicha | LocutusOfBorg: the best I came up with was filing bug 1617835 but if you can do better, go ahead | 07:30 |
| ubottu | bug 1617835 in kido (Ubuntu) "Please remove fcl 0.5.0-1 from yakkety-proposed" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1617835 | 07:30 |
| LocutusOfBorg | jbicha, fcl is fixed in Debian I see | 07:32 |
| LocutusOfBorg | let me see | 07:32 |
| LocutusOfBorg | it might be trivial | 07:35 |
| Saviq | pitti, morning, could I ask you to restart the last missing test in https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/static/britney/ticket-1864/landing-067-xenial/excuses.html - it seems to have disappeared - and also https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/static/britney/ticket-1864/landing-067-yakkety/excuses.html - not sure what made it uninstallable there | 07:46 |
| pitti | mwhudson: ugh, get well soon! | 07:59 |
| pitti | Saviq: sorry, had to kill some running tests due to cloud maintenance, will restart | 08:00 |
| Saviq | tx | 08:05 |
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| ogra_ | pitti, nothing else for now ... | 08:50 |
| ogra_ | (we dont have networkd on the images though) | 08:50 |
| ogra_ | (and i dont see it in the xenial archive) | 08:51 |
| pitti | ogra_: sure you do | 08:52 |
| pitti | it's in the systemd package :) | 08:52 |
| ogra_ | ah, it doesnt have its own binary package ? | 08:52 |
| * ogra_ kind of expected that | 08:52 | |
| gb_mks | hello | 09:48 |
| gb_mks | I found a bug related in the package "click-review". Can anyone help me to solve it? https://bugs.launchpad.net/click-reviewers-tools/+bug/1617288 | 09:49 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1617288 in Canonical Click Reviewers tools "click-review assumes Ubuntu vendor" [Undecided,New] | 09:49 |
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| Saviq | pitti, hey, we're trying to get to grips with unity8 failures in britney, we've a bunch of flaky fixes in store, but the most common issue these days seems to be a time out, how long is the timeout on autopkgtests in britney by default? from looking at timestamps, it seems to be 3h - a passing run of unity8 seems to be between 2h and 2h54m (even though http://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/packages/u/unity8/yakkety/amd64/ says 5h33m, but that seems to be some | 09:57 |
| Saviq | delay outside of the test run itself?) | 09:57 |
| pitti | Saviq: right, the default timeout is 10,000s, i. e. roughly 2:50 hours | 09:58 |
| pitti | Saviq: right, lcy01 has been very unstable (should be fixed now), so some tests were attempted several times | 09:58 |
| Saviq | yup, that sounds about right | 09:58 |
| Saviq | pitti, is it possible to increase the time out for unity8? | 09:59 |
| pitti | Saviq: but these cloud failures should not appear as test failures, they get auto-retried until it finishes | 09:59 |
| Saviq | I can easily imagine it going over the 2:50h mark if the system load is higher, for example | 09:59 |
| pitti | Saviq: it is, if they legitimately take that long | 09:59 |
| pitti | so if they don't just hang eternally on something | 09:59 |
| pitti | Saviq: does that affect all arches? | 10:00 |
| Saviq | pitti, we only claim victory on those on amd64 and i386, and both sometimes go over the 2h50m limit | 10:00 |
| Saviq | pitti, it would go down considerably if they were run in parallel | 10:01 |
| pitti | Saviq: qmluitests.sh seems to need around 1:45 h, well below the 2:50 h limit | 10:01 |
| Saviq | because there's at least some time spent in those tests waiting (we're improving that now, too) | 10:01 |
| pitti | Saviq: do you actually see such a timeout in http://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/packages/u/unity8/yakkety/amd64/ ? I don't | 10:02 |
| Saviq | pitti, I think it depends a lot on the load, https://objectstorage.prodstack4-5.canonical.com/v1/AUTH_77e2ada1e7a84929a74ba3b87153c0ac/autopkgtest-vivid-ci-train-ppa-service-landing-092/vivid/i386/u/unity8/20160822_110521@/log.gz | 10:02 |
| pitti | the failures there are pretty fast | 10:02 |
| Saviq | pitti, I've only seen those on PPA tests, couldn't find any example on proposed migration | 10:03 |
| Saviq | lemme have a good look again | 10:03 |
| pitti | Saviq: so this might rather be vivid vs. yakkety? | 10:03 |
| pitti | Saviq: anyway, I can bump it, but I'd really not do it if these are eternal hangs | 10:03 |
| pitti | these are blocking the infra long enough already | 10:03 |
| Saviq | pitti, we have one potential example of an eternal hang there, we're working on fixing that now, too - but it's tricky to say it really is if we're getting timeouts for other reasons, too | 10:05 |
| Saviq | pitti, about parallel, do the test nodes have more than one core? | 10:05 |
| pitti | Saviq: normally not | 10:06 |
| pitti | Saviq: we can mark it as "big test" and give it 4 cores and more RAM, if that helps to speed up the test considerably, i. e. if it actually *can* run in parallel | 10:06 |
| Saviq | pitti, they do run in parallel in our CI | 10:07 |
| pitti | Saviq: the tradeoff is that they are much more likely to fail due to cloud capacity issues | 10:07 |
| pitti | Saviq: so if they automatically use more available cores, I can add it to that list | 10:07 |
| Saviq | pitti, we rely on DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS=parallel, is that going to be set? | 10:08 |
| pitti | yes, that happens automatically | 10:08 |
| Saviq | pitti, I'd say let's try that | 10:08 |
| pitti | Saviq: oh, is the autopkgtest a package build? | 10:08 |
| Saviq | pitti, no | 10:08 |
| Saviq | it's 1300 UI tests | 10:08 |
| pitti | D_B_O is only set for builds, not for tests | 10:08 |
| pitti | as this is a dpkg-buildpackage specific thing | 10:09 |
| Saviq | hmm, bug #1399177 ? | 10:09 |
| ubottu | bug 1399177 in autopkgtest (Ubuntu) "adt-run should parallelize builds as necessary by default" [Wishlist,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1399177 | 10:09 |
| pitti | tests should ask nproc or /proc/cpuinfo etc. | 10:09 |
| Saviq | ah ack | 10:09 |
| Saviq | so builds but within adt-run | 10:09 |
| Saviq | still | 10:09 |
| Saviq | we'll fix that then | 10:09 |
| pitti | eek, indeed | 10:09 |
| Saviq | pitti, let's mark unity8 big, then, and I'll land a fix to the test script to talk nproc | 10:10 |
| pitti | Saviq: is it really necessary to build the package for running the tests? | 10:10 |
| Saviq | pitti, we're not building the package | 10:11 |
| Saviq | we're building a few mocks | 10:11 |
| pitti | Saviq: also, the build doesn't happen via "Restrictions: build-needed" by autopkgtest itself, but the test calls dh_auto_configure etc., so it's manually building the package without dpkg-buildpackage | 10:11 |
| Saviq | pitti, it's not building the whole thing, only some mocks | 10:11 |
| Saviq | but yes, we're doing away with that too | 10:12 |
| pitti | ah, ok | 10:12 |
| Saviq | we'll package those mocks soon | 10:12 |
| pitti | Saviq: so, back to the question: will any of this actually use more than one core if they are available? | 10:12 |
| Saviq | pitti, not right now, if adt-run doesn't set D_B_O parallel, I'll have to fix the test to do that from nproc then | 10:13 |
| Saviq | so maybe it doesn't make sense to mark it big yet | 10:14 |
| Saviq | to not block the infra | 10:14 |
| Saviq | pitti, can we increase the time out to 3h30m or so for now, it should give us a bit more info on whether we have a real issue or not | 10:15 |
| Saviq | and I'll work on getting nproc in and we'll mark unity8 big after that's done | 10:16 |
| pitti | Saviq: I can set it to 40,000 s by adding it to the "long_tests" list (i. e. roughly 12 h) | 10:16 |
| Saviq | pitti, right, if I see any time out there then, we'll know it's our fault | 10:17 |
| Saviq | that would work | 10:17 |
| pitti | Saviq: ok, rolled out that change | 10:19 |
| Saviq | pitti, thanks, I'll let you know how we're doing | 10:19 |
| pitti | ack | 10:19 |
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| mardy | pitti: hi! a new version of gnome-control-center-signon has landed in yakkety, so hopefully the version number is now consistent | 10:44 |
| mardy | pitti: (talking about bug 1565772) | 10:44 |
| ubottu | bug 1565772 in gnome-control-center-signon (Ubuntu Yakkety) "[SRU] Allow plugins to decide which username to set on new accounts" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1565772 | 10:44 |
| LocutusOfBorg | jbicha, kido is good | 11:20 |
| LocutusOfBorg | fcl too, assuming somebody removes the armhf binary :) | 11:20 |
| pitti | mardy: thanks! I'll mark it as v-needed (dropping v-failed) once LP comes back (has been down for me in the last 10 mins) | 11:22 |
| mardy | pitti: OK, thanks | 11:23 |
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| smoser | pitti, we do need bonds. | 12:34 |
| ogra_ | james bonds ? | 12:36 |
| pitti | smoser: ok, I have that on the list for early September | 12:58 |
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| kenvandine | pitti, ping | 13:48 |
| kenvandine | pitti, we're about ready to land some work in libertine that makes it build depend on content-hub, which depends on ubuntu-app-launch... which of course depends on upstart :) | 13:48 |
| kenvandine | so we need the libertine binaries to be removed for s390x in yakkety | 13:49 |
| kenvandine | pitti, can you please help out with that? | 13:50 |
| dobey | omg circular deps | 13:53 |
| pitti | kenvandine: removed; AFAICS the reverse dependencies of libertine shoudl already be removed | 13:58 |
| kenvandine | pitti, thanks! | 13:58 |
| kenvandine | ChrisTownsend, ^^ | 13:59 |
| ChrisTownsend | pitti: kenvandine: Thanks! | 14:00 |
| jonathon | Is it possible to get a package update into universe? The SRU wiki page doesn't mention universe (there's a link to an anchor from the MOTU page but it's not there any more). | 14:20 |
| pitti | jonathon: there is no difference wrt. the policy, i. e. "yes" | 14:20 |
| jonathon | Right-o, thank you. I'll read through the pages a few more times. :) | 14:25 |
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| rbasak | infinity: are you chairing the DMB meeting in five minutes? | 14:55 |
| rbasak | BenC: around? | 14:56 |
| rbasak | !dmb-ping | 15:00 |
| ubottu | bdmurray, BenC, cyphermox, infinity, micahg, rbasak, sil2100: DMB ping. | 15:00 |
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| pitti | awe: yay, I read the NM 1.4 announcement yesterday, seems our ofono patches are upstream now? congrats! | 15:10 |
| ogra_ | woah ! | 15:11 |
| awe | thanks pitti! | 15:11 |
| pitti | awe: Debian already has 1.4, so merge o'clock soon? | 15:11 |
| awe | hehe | 15:11 |
| * awe hopes there are no dbus interface changes | 15:11 | |
| pitti | awe: yeah, "Canonical contributed ... ofono support" was a nice read there :) | 15:11 |
| ogra_ | the result of years of work .... | 15:11 |
| awe | indeed | 15:11 |
| pitti | awe: allegedly the API has stayed very stable, even 1.2 plugins still work with NM 1.4 | 15:12 |
| awe | abeato got a nice mention as well for his statistics API | 15:12 |
| awe | pitti, yes... that's pretty much true, although the move to gbus had some unexpected side-effects | 15:12 |
| awe | also, there's still a bit of code that didn't get merged upstream | 15:13 |
| awe | so we'll still need to carry some patches | 15:13 |
| awe | but it was a good start | 15:14 |
| awe | and hopefully we can continue to push more code to them | 15:14 |
| cpaelzer | hi, anybody here knows how/where I should reach out to get s390x enabled in an ppa on LP ? | 15:37 |
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| attente | hi, i'm getting this debootstrap error: "chroot: cannot change root directory to '/home/william/tmp/root': Operation not permitted" | 16:02 |
| attente | this is when running it with fakeroot in my home directory | 16:03 |
| attente | is there a reason why debootstrap needs to chroot here? | 16:03 |
| attente | is there a better way than using fakeroot? | 16:07 |
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| jonathon | cpaelzer: #launchpad might worth a look? | 16:27 |
| dobey | attente: sudo? | 16:35 |
| attente | dobey: trying to do this unprivileged in my home | 16:48 |
| ogra_ | attente, wont work, deboostrap needs to create device nodes ... you can try fakechroot ... if you actually like cans of worms | 16:55 |
| ogra_ | (or just download an ubuntu-base tarball ;) instead of building yourself ) | 16:56 |
| dobey | yeah, download the preinstalled tarball then | 16:57 |
| attente | where is the tarball? i'll try that | 16:58 |
| ogra_ | http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-base/releases/xenial/release/ or http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-base/daily/current/ | 17:02 |
| ogra_ | depending what you want | 17:02 |
| elbrus | ginggs_: thanks (unfortunately the autopkg fails on ci.debian.net and I don't know why, as it works on my computer) | 19:32 |
| elbrus | here it doesn't ask the password and that is correct. however on ci.d.n it does ask and fails because the isn't a valid answer at all | 19:34 |
| * elbrus shakes his head in disbelief and will probably need to upload a package with more debugging output... but doesn't know what output would be good.... mysql -vvv or something | 19:35 | |
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| ginggs_ | elbrus: yw and good luck with the autopkg stuff | 19:41 |
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