[00:00] <SupaYoshi> So i need to manually chown and move my folders now. Quite annoying.
[00:00] <SupaYoshi> SO am wondering if there is a better way than raising permissions to 775.
[00:00] <Anonaly> yeah I suppose I could just connect to my ssh server,
[00:00] <Anonaly> its nice having a cord to plug them in though
[00:00] <Anonaly> (my wife)
[00:00] <Ben64> SupaYoshi: what i normally do on my servers is have the web root directory under the user's home directory, and have them own it
[00:00] <reisio> heh
[00:01] <SupaYoshi> Ben64 , I see.
[00:01] <SupaYoshi> So your files would look like, .. username:www-data
[00:01] <Ben64> nope, username:username
[00:01] <Anonaly> reisio, so I added myself to the udev rules, and I made a 51-android.rules file
[00:02] <SupaYoshi> ah right. because your webserver runs files under that permission too.
[00:02] <reisio> Anonaly: why'd you do that?
[00:02] <Ben64> SupaYoshi: the webserver only needs to be able to read
[00:02] <SupaYoshi> Yeah Im just so used to running everything under www-data that I'm just so normally with that.
[00:02] <SupaYoshi> Ah okay. x
[00:02] <Ben64> so it falls under "Other" in permissions
[00:02] <apb1963_> OK, I've purged most of my ppa's... the few remaining I'm not sure how to remove.  For example, dropbox.
[00:02] <Anonaly> reisio, because I cannot see the device in my file manager in ubuntu
[00:02] <apb1963_> cat dropbox.list
[00:02] <apb1963_> deb [arch=i386,amd64] http://linux.dropbox.com/ubuntu trusty main
[00:02] <Anonaly> (16.04)
[00:02] <SupaYoshi> But I've had it, that when files where owned by root, that didn't work.
[00:02] <reisio> Anonaly: what device is it?
[00:03] <SupaYoshi> So your saying I could just chown my webserver files and directories to username.
[00:03] <blackflow> Ben64: so why not have the webserver in the usergroup ? that way you don't need o+r
[00:03] <SupaYoshi> Instead of www-data
[00:03] <Ben64> blackflow: o+r is pretty standard on all files
[00:03] <Anonaly> reisio, the samsung galaxy s3 and galaxy s6
[00:03] <blackflow> Ben64: it isn't if you have sftp cchroot
[00:03] <blackflow> *chroot
[00:03] <Ben64> well if you're just making up scenarios sure
[00:03] <blackflow> homedirs are then 750 and owned by root:usergroup
[00:03] <blackflow> I'm not, that's better advice than o+r
[00:04] <Ben64> you really are, SupaYoshi said nothing about chroot
[00:04] <Anonaly> reisio, when I use us mtp-detect, I can get the PID and the VID of the device
[00:04] <blackflow> Ben64: well, it's a _requirement_ for sftp chroot, but even without it, it's a secure way to run things
[00:05] <blackflow> afaik even cpanel these days runs homedirs with 750
[00:05] <Ben64> still not relevant
[00:05] <SupaYoshi> riighhtt I was looking for answers and I have more questions in my mind now hehe.
[00:05] <SupaYoshi> I have always been thought, directories 755. files 644.
[00:05] <SupaYoshi> for webserver files.
[00:05] <Ben64> SupaYoshi: yeah just make yourself the owner
[00:06] <blackflow> Ben64: pretty relevant, because you gain nothing with 755 and gain a lot with 750
[00:06] <blackflow> and all it takes is to put the web server into user group
[00:06] <reisio> Anonaly: what ubuntu version?
[00:06] <Ben64> what do you gain? nothing
[00:06] <Anonaly> reisio, PM
[00:07] <blackflow> Ben64: you gain that other users can't see your files
[00:07] <Ben64> he said there are no other users
[00:07] <SupaYoshi> Thanks
[00:07] <Ben64> are you even listening
[00:07] <blackflow> users as in unix system users, not just people
[00:07] <SupaYoshi> There are no other system users.
[00:08] <Ben64> then you have your webserver user having access to all your files
[00:08] <blackflow> SupaYoshi: of course there are. one for webserver, for example, www-data. then your site's users, then a bunch of uid<1000 system users, then one for each service/daemon you run, etc...
[00:08] <SupaYoshi> oh right.
[00:08] <SupaYoshi> Yeah
[00:08] <blackflow> Ben64: which is still better than o+r
[00:08] <Ben64> nope.pdf
[00:09] <todayistheday> hey, my ubuntu wont connect to the network anymore, it worked fine this morning
[00:09] <blackflow> I won't argue with you. I'll just say you're giving bad advice and I'm advising SupaYoshi to consider running o-rwx
[00:09] <todayistheday> for some reason interface eth0 is not showing if I do ifconfig
[00:09] <todayistheday> any ideas?
[00:09] <blackflow> todayistheday: missing firmware?
[00:10] <todayistheday> nah, it was working this morning
[00:10] <todayistheday> havent touched it
[00:10] <daniel_> Hello
[00:11] <blackflow> SupaYoshi: it's simple. running o-rwx is a very good practice as one day you _will_ have more than one site, and along with that, a well established habit to isolate them from each other.
[00:11] <sagi_> Good IDE for python?
[00:11] <blackflow> sagi_: PyCharm
[00:11] <sagi_> thanks.
[00:11] <daniel_> hello sagi
[00:11] <SupaYoshi> blackflow , with "isolate" websites from each other
[00:12] <SupaYoshi> Do you recon, having them owned all specifically by their own system users?
[00:12] <blackflow> SupaYoshi: exactly.
[00:12] <SupaYoshi> so website 1 = user1.
[00:12] <SupaYoshi> website 2 = user2
[00:12] <SupaYoshi> I see..
[00:12] <SupaYoshi> I've never done this before. that's bad I see.
[00:12] <SupaYoshi> thanks mate.
[00:12] <blackflow> yw
[00:13] <SupaYoshi> and the webserver will not have problems with this, because I remember I had files owned by root:root
[00:13] <SupaYoshi> and 755.
[00:13] <SupaYoshi> But wordpress and joomla did not like it.
[00:13] <sagi_> seems like "PyCharm" for professionals.. i need something to beginnerדץץ
[00:13] <SupaYoshi> same goes for user:user owner. if i believe.
[00:13] <blackflow> SupaYoshi: it's the principle of least privilege. Absolutely no reason to run as open as o+r, even with single site on the machine.
[00:14] <SupaYoshi> I see. what you mean.
[00:14] <SupaYoshi> Thanks!
[00:14] <SupaYoshi> any one an idea how to disable join / leave messages on IRC? / ZNC?
[00:15] <Ben64> !quietirc | SupaYoshi
[00:15] <squinty> SupaYoshi, if using hexchat right click on channel button
[00:16] <SupaYoshi> got it ty.
[00:16] <SupaYoshi> :D amazing.
[00:16] <apb1963_> I'm having difficult installing wine.. recent details here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23105248/
[00:16] <apb1963_> s/difficult/difficulty/
[00:17] <Ben64> apb1963_: why are you running as root? didn't you ask here a while ago how to purge wine ppa?
[00:17] <apb1963_> Ben64: and I did that...
[00:18] <Ben64> apb1963_: and what is debug.sh
[00:18] <apb1963_> Ben64: And then added back the "official" wine team repo.  Which was the same one I was already using
[00:19] <sypher> apb1963_: You didn't actually properly purge the ppa as instructed earlier. Your package database is still trying to pull in a ppa version of wine.
[00:19] <apb1963_> It varies according to what I'm doing.  Right now it's "sudo aptitude --full-resolver -f install $1"
[00:20] <apb1963_> sypher: As I said... I added it back.  Otherwise it can't find wine.
[00:20] <Ben64> pastebin the output of "apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade"
[00:20] <sypher> oh, how does one query packages via ubottu ?
[00:21] <todayistheday> sorry about leaving whoever was helping me, the internet dc for me (ironic no?)
[00:22] <apb1963_> Ben64: working on it
[00:22] <todayistheday> so my problem was the ubuntu computer is not connected to the network, another computer works fine
[00:22] <todayistheday> eth0 does not show up in ifconfig
[00:22] <Bashing-om> sypher: Something like : ' /msg ubottu !info <package> ' .
[00:22] <romrider7> Hi all... any news re usa 3.0 support for 16.04?
[00:23] <romrider7> e e usb 3.0
[00:23] <sypher> Bashing-om: Perfect, thank you.
[00:23] <bazhang> romrider7, its been there always
[00:23] <Student> Oi
[00:23] <Student> If someone could send me a direct link to Lenovo e455 It would be most greatly appreciated
[00:24] <bazhang> Student, contact lenovo directly
[00:24] <romrider7> buzhang fosent work for me and see pleanty of others with same complaint.. eh?
[00:25] <bazhang> romrider7, it has worked for many many releases of ubuntu
[00:25] <sypher> romrider7: And it works without fail for me. Anecdotes go both ways.
[00:25] <romrider7> bazhang: is there some trick or tip re: getting it to work...?
[00:25] <bazhang> romrider7, dont buy knockoff usb 3
[00:25] <romrider7> I suspect it has to do with MB and bios version etc..?
[00:26] <Student> No phone very cruddy telephone line
[00:26] <romrider7> bazhang: sorry to have to mention it but this is a mainstream pc and the usb devices are all known firms.. (and work u7nder the enemies os of course!)
[00:26] <moon_man> Hey guys it moonman here and we gonna kill some niggers today!
[00:26] <Student> Just a link to website will do. Much website suffering today
[00:27] <bazhang> lenovo.com Student
[00:27] <Student> TY
[00:28] <bazhang> romrider7, so you got a faulty one, or its failing
[00:28] <romrider7> bazhang: is bit of a pain in the ar*e of course to have a 1tb usb3 drive working so lame on the usb 2.0 ports
[00:29] <bazhang> cannot help sorry romrider7 , all usb 3 work perfectly here without fail
[00:29] <romrider7> eh - 5 different usb3 devices all working under wind* and all faulty under ubuntu - give me a break pal.. they dont show up in the drives overview..
[00:29] <morph> u
[00:29] <morph> iii
[00:29] <morph> oooio
[00:30] <romrider7> bazhang: ok maybe realistic to not expect a lota support from sbdy who don't have the same bug/problem.. ;=) thanks anyhows..
[00:32] <romrider7> btw - I am generally very impressed with 16.04 - I had taken a break from linux for a year or so and was into w10 insider prog etc.. untill just after end of the free upgrades from MS the system faild completly - including accronis backups not working etc.. grrr..
[00:32] <romrider7> ubuntu has been the salvation so far.. ;=)
[00:33] <romrider7> not yet ptied to use the scanner on my brother dtc 1510 - in past distros that was the major reason for heading off to MS
[00:34] <polarbear> give it a shot romrider u might be surprised
[00:34] <Student> Lol fails
[00:36] <apb1963_> Ben64: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23105317/
[00:45] <naknomik> I want to install Horde mail, calendar and address book. Which Ubuntu package should I install? I see php-horde-groupware php-horde and php-horde-webmail
[00:46]  * EldonMcGuinnes wishes Polari could ignore connect/disconnect messages
[00:46] <naknomik> and they all look like huge installs getting hundreds of packages... which one do I need?
[00:47] <EldonMcGuinnes> Considering all that is needed for horde, it is no wonder there are a ton of deps
[00:53] <OerHeks> naknomik,  i think php-horde-webmail https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/php-horde-webmail/5.2.12-1build1
[01:10] <danny_> What is a DE with a good balance between eye candy and performance?
[01:11] <danny_> I'm using mate but I kinda wish maximizing a video for instance didn't look so jerky
[01:11] <waffles> gnome?
[01:12] <danny_> waffles, haven't tried it, I've heard its heavy on performance though
[01:12] <waffles> It is. But looks pretty.
[01:13] <danny_> eh, I might give it a shot then.  I really hate almost all of the default apps for Mate so its not like I'm giving up something great
[01:14] <danny_> seriously, caja and rhythimbox are hateful
[01:14] <waffles> LXDE is quite lite.
[01:14] <danny_> I heard thats even more minimal than mate though
[01:15] <Bashing-om> danny_: If ya do not mind the learning curve, ther is xfce4 . very configuable once you know how . It is fast !
[01:15] <waffles> xfce is probably one of the minimalist though, never used it though.
[01:15] <danny_> Bashing-om, does it have support for decent eyecandy?  Mate's is pretty lacking
[01:15] <danny_> I did have my eye on xfce though
[01:15] <TXRoadkill> LXDE is really quick and easy on the computer resources
[01:16] <TXRoadkill> used it on an old P4 with only 512M of RAM
[01:16] <TXRoadkill> but now that I have the power for it, I really like the Unity interface
[01:16] <EldonMcGuinnes> I've found Gnome3 growing on me
[01:17] <danny_> TXRoadkill, I'm running mate right now and am trying to find one with more eyecandy
[01:17] <EldonMcGuinnes> Though I have a campus full of Unity boxes I manage
[01:17] <waffles> Unity is quite enjoyable.
[01:17] <sypher> Gnome3 with classic shell for me.
[01:17] <danny_> The sidebar of Unity is scary to me.  Old habits die hard and I like my desktop with a bar at the bottom
[01:17] <Bashing-om> danny_: http://wiki.xfce.org/howto/xfwm4_theme ; http://xfce-look.org/ .
[01:18] <TXRoadkill> danny_> The sidebar of Unity is scary to me.  Old habits die hard and I like my desktop with a bar at the bottom << you can put there if you like, by changing the preferences
[01:19] <guzzlefry> Is it possible to filter `apt-cache search [query]` results to show only installed packages?
[01:19] <danny_> TXRoadkill, Unless I'm missing something it seems more like a MacOS dock than the windows bar I'm used to
[01:19] <danny_> Bashing-om, Yeah, I think xfce might be what I was looking for
[01:20] <TXRoadkill> danny_ > I am used to the Mac world, so Unity made the transition easier for me
[01:20] <danny_> TXRoadkill, I'm not knocking it, it seems like a really well polished experience, it just doesn't appeal to me
[01:21] <waffles> guzzlefry > dpkg --list
[01:21] <TXRoadkill> Have you tried installing the Unity Tweak Tool?  You can do all sorts of customization there
[01:21] <danny_> and I'm someone who has never touched a mac box for more than 10 minutes and still doesn't understand how docks are supposed to work
[01:21] <Bashing-om> guzzlefry: Maybe something like ' dpkg --get-selections ' will dump a list of all packages you have installed .
[01:21] <squinty> danny_,  unity tweak tool for changing to the bottom
[01:22] <danny_> TXRoadkill, yeah, it helped me get mate into a passable state, but now I'm just being greedy and feel like some eyecandy
[01:23] <guzzlefry> dpkg --list | grep <query> works, thanks. :)
[01:23] <waffles> guzzlefry > Awesome :D
[01:24] <danny_> I think you can just do dpkg -l waffles
[01:25] <waffles> danny_ > Yeah, that works as well.
[01:26] <danny_> What are everyones thoughts on KDE?
[01:26] <danny_> the preview videos look pretty cool
[01:26] <waffles> Don't have much experience with KDE but looks pretty cool from the screenshots I've seen.
[01:26] <waffles> Mostly used gnome and unity.
[01:26] <cfhowlett> danny_, for chitchat and opinions, please ask in #ubuntu-offtopic.  hardcore ubuntu support here.  thanks.
[01:27] <OerHeks> #kubuntu
[01:27] <Bashing-om> danny_: Eyecandy for sure . Consumes lots of resources .
[01:27] <EldonMcGuinnes> Gnome always felt more homely, if that can possibly make sense
[01:27] <EldonMcGuinnes> or homey rather
[01:28] <sector_0> hey
[01:29] <sector_0> I'm using ubuntu16.04 LTS and I'm trying to use the power manager to set the security options, so that the computer is locked when the screen goes off, or when it goes to sleep
[01:29] <sector_0> the settings work fine, but whenever the computer is turned off the settings aren't saved
[01:29] <sector_0> why is that so?
[01:29] <sector_0> aN
[01:29] <sector_0> and how can I fix it?
[01:30] <TXRoadkill> I just use the Brightness and Lock tool for that
[01:31] <sector_0> TXRoadkill, brightness and lock tool?
[01:31] <sector_0> are you talking about the light locker?
[01:31] <TXRoadkill> System Tools/Brightness & Lock
[01:32] <sector_0> that actually isn't installed on my system by default
[01:32] <sector_0> I'm using xfce
[01:32] <sector_0> perhaps that's why
[01:32] <TXRoadkill> Ah OK, I'm using Ubuntu/Unity
[01:34] <bullrid3r> does running an IRC client (irssi) compromise the functionality of Tor if running at the same time?
[01:34] <cfhowlett> sector_0, settings > power manager > security > lock screen when system is going for sleep
[01:35] <guzzlefry> Are there any good desktop system monitors other than conky and gnome-system-monitor?
[01:35] <DeathRowe>  glances isn't bad. Uses python
[01:36] <sector_0> cfhowlett, that's what I'm doing, the problem is when the computer restarts I the settings aren't saved
[01:36] <sector_0> when I adjust the settings it works fine up until the computer is restarted
[01:37] <apb1963_> Is there a way to simulate booting?
[01:37] <cfhowlett> apb1963_, your end goal is ...?
[01:38] <TXRoadkill> guzzlefry > System Load Indicator - https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/precise/indicator-multiload/
[01:38] <fmiltonga> I simulate booting in VMware
[01:39] <RustyShackleford> I'm having issues with my intel 6th gen (skylake) graphics
[01:39] <RustyShackleford> running up to date kernel on 16.04
[01:39] <DeathRowe> TXRoadkill > does System Load Indicator work without a DE?
[01:39] <RustyShackleford> I've read some things online that suggest a newer kernel has better support
[01:39] <RustyShackleford> is there an easy way to run 4.6 or so?
[01:40] <apb1963_> cfhowlett: To see whether it will boot without any problems... including all daemons, etc.
[01:40] <TXRoadkill> DeathRowe> TXRoadkill > does System Load Indicator work without a DE? << DE?
[01:40] <TXRoadkill> I just installed it from the Software Center
[01:40] <Bashing-om> RustyShackleford: Maybe: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2328993 <- 16.04 install the i965-va-driver skylake .
[01:41] <DeathRowe> TXRoadkill > Sorry, DE = Desktop Environment.
[01:41] <cfhowlett> apb1963_, virtualize and boot?  virtualbox and vmware come to mind
[01:41] <TXRoadkill> As I've mentioned, I'm a Mac person.  I rarely install anything that isn't available from the Software Center
[01:41] <TXRoadkill> Yeah, Ubuntu/Unity here
[01:42] <DeathRowe> TXRoadkill > Oh okay, Yeah I like to stick with monitoring tools that work in CLI. I generally won't install a desktop environment on a server.
[01:42] <apb1963_> cfhowlett: Yeah... I started reading this.. http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/62861/how-to-figure-out-grub2s-menu-output and then I started to wonder if it was the best or even only solution.
[01:42] <TXRoadkill> 10 Awesome Indicator Applets for Ubuntu’s Unity Desktop - http://www.howtogeek.com/118908/10-awesome-indicator-applets-for-ubuntus-unity-desktop/
[01:42] <apb1963_> I like virtual box... everything just kind of worked for me.
[01:42] <cfhowlett> answer #1 apb1963_ ... VM
[01:43] <apb1963_> cfhowlett: Right... but I was hoping to find explicit details.. such as are in the link I posted.
[01:50] <DeathRowe> apb1963_, so have you tried simulated your grub boot in a VM, which was mentioned in the link you provided?
[01:55] <nullPtr> hey
[01:55] <nullPtr> can someone tell me where to go if i want to learn bash
[01:56] <cfhowlett> get off irc.  download "the linux command line".  read.
[01:56] <jonathan_> above answer
[01:56] <DeathRowe> ^^
[01:56] <jonathan_> how does one get better at using the command line?
[01:57] <DeathRowe> continue to use it.
[01:57] <cfhowlett> "bash guide for beginners"  read it.  learn it.  use it.
[01:59] <Bashing-om> !terminal | jonathan_
[02:00] <explodes> 1
[02:01] <jonathan_> so what made people switch to linux?
[02:01] <DeathRowe> Windows 10
[02:01] <cfhowlett> great question for chitchat in #ubuntu-offtopic DeathRowe .  thanks
[02:01] <cfhowlett> jonathan_, ^^^
[02:02] <jonathan_> ah I'm new to this irc thing, is there a beginner channel someone could point me towards?
[02:02] <DeathRowe> Depends what you're looking to chat about.
[02:03] <jonathan_> well becoming a self taught programmer for the most part as it's always going to be a valuable skill
[02:04] <apb1963_> DeathRowe: I have not.  That's for later when my brain has had a chance to untwist.
[02:05] <DeathRowe> apb1963_, oh okay. I would definitely start there before going a any further.
[02:05] <FoeHammered> I want to draw a few simple things, but mtpaint won't let me make an ellipse. The tool is there, and greyed out. What program should I use, and how?
[02:05] <apb1963_> DeathRowe: well... i have to read up on kvm vs qemu vs virtualbox ...
[02:06] <cfhowlett> FoeHammered, inkscape.  read the tutorial #1
[02:06] <Bashing-om> jonathan_: Beginner programmer ? then http://mywiki.wooledge.org/FullBashGuide is a great place to start .
[02:06] <FoeHammered> Inkscape, noted. Will immediately look into it.
[02:06] <DeathRowe> apb1963_, Virtualbox is quite easy to get started with but if you really want to get a good understanding of VMs I would use KVM
[02:06] <apb1963_> FoeHammered: gimp is another possibility to look into
[02:07] <gulr> newbie to linux, trying to learn html css javascript but atom editor only for 64bit. tried brackets but they only use chrome but chrome 32 bit. now what?
[02:07] <FoeHammered> apb: I looked into drawing ellipses, and the beginning wasn't promising. docs.gimp.org's first line is, "14.2. GIMP is not designed to be used for drawing."
[02:07] <FoeHammered> Which explains a lot.
[02:07] <apb1963_> DeathRowe: oh I understand vm's in general.... it's the specifics that are nebulous at the moment.
[02:07] <FoeHammered> apb1963_, why didn't I use the tab key...
[02:07] <jonathan_> Bashing-om, thanks I'll take a look
[02:08] <cfhowlett> !editor | gulr
[02:08] <apb1963_> FoeHammered: lol... didn't know that,  Thanks.
[02:08] <FoeHammered> apb1963_, no problem. We are greater together than apart!
[02:09] <DeathRowe> apb1963_, ah, well kvm will let you really dive into the specifics of VMs but if you're looking to work on just the specifics of the guest OS and not worry about the caveats of VMs Virtualbox may be a good choice.
[02:09] <apb1963_> FoeHammered: you know what they say... if you have a dollar and I have dollar and we trade dollars... we each have 1 dollar.  But if you have an idea and we trade ideas.... we each have two ideas.
[02:10] <DeathRowe> Vim!!
[02:10] <FoeHammered> apb1963_, though the physics of a scenario where if I touch my taper to yours, my flame is, in fact, diminished, makes for a fun thought experiment.
[02:10] <apb1963_> DeathRowe: yeah... which means I have to puzzle out how to do it
[02:11] <gulr> ubottu: thanks. will look into them. want the server plug in like atom.
[02:11] <apb1963_> FoeHammered: but only for a moment while you're touching my taper.  I'll thank you to stay away from my taper though please.
[02:12] <gulr> just read that some distros will retire 32bit. True? :(
[02:12] <FoeHammered> apb1963_, fair enough! Thanks, cfhowlett, Inkscape seems quite useful so far for my very basic editing and drawing needs.
[02:12] <cfhowlett> FoeHammered, it's a fun program, nicely documented.  see your library for the non-free titles.
[02:12] <apb1963_> FoeHammered: don't know what yo're working on, but okular provides some annotation tools that allow drawing of basic shapes.
[02:13] <gulr> Anybody using 32bit for web development? Is so, what tools are you using?
[02:13] <cfhowlett> gulr, 32bit is on the way out.  accept it and adapt.
[02:13] <gulr> For some reason, I had to switch to Opera on lubuntu bcuz Firefox was WAY SLOW!
[02:14] <apb1963_> Back in my day, we only had 8 bits and we were glad to have it.
[02:14] <gulr> cfhowlett: SAD! Just got a 32 bit hand me down.
[02:14] <bruce_dev> hey guys, when I setup mysql and I go to edit the /etc/mysql/my.cnf all these guides are showing how it should have alot of commented code, but I do  not see this code in my file at all
[02:15] <cfhowlett> apb1963_, when I was coming up, we had a bit - ONE bit!  for the Dev Team! And we had to share the bit!
[02:15] <FoeHammered> apb1963_, that might actually suffice. I'll bear it in mind. I'm editing a star map from a 4X game to highlight, encircle and place text over various things in it so I can give a sitrep to the players. I'll be posting the finished file as a .jpg or .png or something online.
[02:15] <apb1963_> bruce_dev: did you grab the sample they supply?
[02:15] <bruce_dev> They don't preload it?
[02:15] <bruce_dev> I didn't grab it no
[02:15] <bruce_dev> didn't even know they had one
[02:15] <apb1963_> cfhowlett: Now that's a bit far fetched.  I could see if you shared a nibble but...
[02:16] <apb1963_> FoeHammered: okular handles pdf's quite well...  I don't remember if it can handle png or jpg
[02:17] <apb1963_> bits and nibbles and bytes Oh My
[02:17] <bruce_dev> what is the 16.04 equiv to "GRANT": https://rbgeek.wordpress.com/2014/09/23/enable-remote-access-of-mysql-on-ubuntu/
[02:18] <bruce_dev> I am guessing GRANT is for the old ubuntu
[02:18] <apb1963_> FoeHammered: what format does the star map start out?
[02:18] <FoeHammered> apb1963_, .png, so I'm apt to keep it that way.
[02:18] <apb1963_> bruce_dev: grant is an SQL command... ie. mysql
[02:18] <bruce_dev> I have mysql installed, not sure why its not working then
[02:18] <apb1963_> FoeHammered: Yup.
[02:19] <niytro> Hi folks, I just needed some help completely uninstalling a program and its configs so I can reinstall and start over with it, any help appreciated =)
[02:19] <DeathRowe> apt-get purge?
[02:19] <niytro> tried
[02:19] <gulr> cf
[02:20] <bruce_dev> nvm figured it out
[02:20] <DeathRowe> dpkg -f ?
[02:20] <DeathRowe> dpkg -r ? **
[02:20] <apb1963_> niytro: why do you think it didn't work?
[02:20] <nullPtr> what distro are you guys running?
[02:20] <DeathRowe> Ubuntu...?
[02:20] <nullPtr> *flavour
[02:20] <DeathRowe> Ubuntu?
[02:21] <nullPtr> i'm running MATE
[02:21] <DeathRowe> Thats a desktop environment.
[02:21] <nullPtr> I just hated the desktop
[02:21] <apb1963_> running mate?  For who?  Trump?
[02:21] <nullPtr> well yeah i guess
[02:21] <niytro> apb1963_, im on 16.04, i messed up an installation on playonlinux so i purge and reinstall but it still has the virtual drives listed
[02:21] <nullPtr> haha
[02:22] <DeathRowe> niytro, dismount the virtual drives?
[02:22] <TXRoadkill> To be fair, Mint is also based on Ubuntu
[02:22] <apb1963_> niytro: methinks you should supply more information on that... though I don't know if playonlinux is supported here,... I don't know anything about it.
[02:23] <niytro> apb1963_, maybe it did work but I need everything to go back to when i first ran it. I tried to install FL Studio and it went through the installation just fine but i hit something wrong at the end and now when i try to install it, it fails right in the beginning
[02:23] <apb1963_> niytro: for example, I would show us those virtual drives.... possibly in a pastebin
[02:23] <niytro> apb1963_, i just removed them in the POL
[02:23] <apb1963_> niytro: I would suggest capturing your entire session and pastebinning it
[02:24] <niytro> apb1963_, yikes i dunno how to
[02:24] <apb1963_> well, you said there are virtual drives listed so I'm going with the assumption you're running POL under ubuntu?
[02:24] <DeathRowe> niytro, lsblk
[02:25] <DeathRowe> df -h
[02:25] <RustyShackleford> well the i965-va-driver did not help with my intel skylake graphics problems
[02:26] <niytro> ubuntu 16.04LTS
[02:27] <DeathRowe> niytro, Alright. Can you run lsblk or df -h in terminal?
[02:27] <anthony__> hey world
[02:27] <niytro> DeathRowe, yes where do i paste
[02:27] <apb1963_> niytro: again... don't really know what yo're doing, but if you're running POL from the command line... just type "script".  No quotes.  It will pop a new shell and capture your output... at least with normal programs... not sure about POL
[02:28] <DeathRowe> niytro, http://pastebin.com/ then send link
[02:28] <niytro> apb1963_, im trying to install FL Studio 12.3 from POL GUI
[02:28] <apb1963_> niytro: yeah... maybe they have an error log
[02:28] <RustyShackleford> is there an easy way to use a newer kernel with 16.04 lts?
[02:29] <DeathRowe> RustyShackleford, http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2016/05/install-linux-kernel-4-6-ubuntu-16-04/
[02:29] <niytro> DeathRowe, apb1963_ http://pastebin.com/61iSmZMi but let me pastebin the error i get from POL maybe you all will have some insight
[02:30] <DeathRowe> niytro, not seeing a virtual disk.
[02:30] <niytro> DeathRowe, I believe i deleted it in POL sorry
[02:30] <RustyShackleford> was hoping for a way with apt. Maybe like a ppa
[02:31] <niytro> DeathRowe, Im tryint to install FL Studio again and I'll pastebin the error
[02:31] <DeathRowe> niytro, oh okay. Then what's the issue now? just trying to clean up a failed install?
[02:31] <DeathRowe> niytro, okay.
[02:33] <getem> hello
[02:33] <niytro> DeathRowe, well when I first installed POL and went through the program adding wine and it installed something called gecko etc. All I know is the installation worked but I cancelled it at the end or pushed something wrong and now when I try to install it fails immediately. I just wanted to wipe the program and config and try to "start over"
[02:35] <niytro> DeathRowe, apb1963_ http://pastebin.com/2qcQiNJS the error
[02:35] <apb1963_> try apt-get install --reinstall packageName
[02:35] <DeathRowe> ^^
[02:35] <RustyShackleford> why does the linux kernel hate me?
[02:35] <DeathRowe> RustyShackleford, what did it tell you?
[02:36] <RustyShackleford> I just have bad luck with hardware support
[02:36] <apb1963_> niytro: did you install winetricks?
[02:36] <OerHeks> " newer kernel with 16.04 lts " LTS stands for long term support, so stable packages. *if* you need a newer kerenl, see the mainline ppa
[02:36] <OerHeks> !mainline
[02:37] <RustyShackleford> i'm gonna take a stab at a newer kernel. the next question is which to try
[02:37] <DeathRowe> 4.6
[02:37] <RustyShackleford> 4.6 or 4.7 something
[02:37] <niytro> apb1963_, I believe POL does it automatically and its listed in my applications
[02:37] <OerHeks> RustyShackleford, carefull, newer kernels are unsupported, you are on your own.
[02:38] <RustyShackleford> OerHeks, can I add that to sources.list like a ppa?
[02:38] <RustyShackleford> all the instructions I see online look like a more manual install
[02:38] <apb1963_> niytro: then I guess everything is working and no need to try it :)
[02:38] <OerHeks> RustyShackleford, no, read the wiki howto get the 3 packages and which order to install
[02:39] <niytro> apb1963_, i get this error http://pastebin.com/2qcQiNJS when on the first install i had no errors
[02:39] <niytro> apb1963_, when i try to install aoo through POL
[02:40] <OerHeks> RustyShackleford, a newer kernel does not mean your issue will be solved, there might be a lot more involved
[02:40] <niytro> apb1963_, eh i dunno im just really trying to get apps i use to work on linux so i dont have to switch over to windows partition
[02:40] <Student> Niytro
[02:40] <Student> Dual Boot?
[02:40] <niytro> yes
[02:40] <DeathRowe> niytro, are you installing through WINE?
[02:41] <niytro> playonlinux uses wine yes
[02:41] <RustyShackleford> OerHeks, its a stab in the dark yeah. I did read that these issues are supposedly solved in 4.6 and newer
[02:41] <DeathRowe> niytro, duh, sorry...
[02:41] <niytro> DeathRowe, but the installation is guided with POL but its wine yes
[02:41] <RustyShackleford> I could try to find a distro that bundles 4.6. I think fedora does
[02:41] <OerHeks> RustyShackleford, if it does not work, you can easily boot into the older kernel, so try it :-)
[02:42] <apb1963_> niytro: I hear ya.  It looks like something is wrong with wine... I would reinstall it just to be sure.
[02:42] <Student> Latest Wine Update?
[02:42] <Student> 11.4?
[02:43] <apb1963_> niytro: I mean you're talking about an emulator that's running a program that barfs.  It's got to either be the program, or the environment.
[02:44] <niytro> apb1963_, well like i said it installed fine the first time so im assuming wine, how to completely remove wine and wine configs
[02:44] <niytro> apb1963_, so i can start over
[02:45] <DeathRowe> sudo apt-get purge wine < tab complete to appropriate version.
[02:46] <DeathRowe> then sudo apt-get autoremove
[02:46] <OerHeks> with that staging ppa ? use ppa-purge, and remove the ~/.wine folder
[02:46] <niytro> DeathRowe, heard
[02:46] <apb1963_> niytro: apt-get purge wine
[02:47] <apb1963_> niytro: listen to them
[02:47] <Student> ?
[02:47] <RustyShackleford> brb wish me luck
[02:47] <Student> Wine 11.4 update?
[02:47]  * apb1963_ heads out for food     Thanks all!
[02:48] <niytro> apb1963_, DeathRowe alright purging all wine and pol. should i clear package cache before reinstalling?
[02:48] <niytro> Student, ?
[02:50] <RustyShackleford> well how about that
[02:50] <DeathRowe> niytro, Don't think it will hurt.
[02:50] <Student> Latest Wine is 11.4?
[02:51] <RustyShackleford> it seems to work much better with ubuntu 4.7.2
[02:51] <RustyShackleford> linux 4.7.2 woops
[02:51] <RustyShackleford> no kernel panics so far
[02:52] <RustyShackleford> and graphics tears are gone
[02:52] <Bashing-om> RustyShackleford: :) What graphics driver in use ? For my info .
[02:53] <niytro> Student, not sure
[02:53] <Student> K
[02:53] <RustyShackleford> i965-va-driver
[02:53] <RustyShackleford> intel graphics
[02:55] <ativauman> Does the current daily build of yakkety include kernel 4.7?
[02:55] <mladen5> hey guys, i am having trouble with my key bindings, i need to reset them, how to do that?
[02:56] <RustyShackleford> still some glitches in chome while watching youtube
[02:56] <RustyShackleford> firefox is working just fne
[02:57] <Bashing-om> RustyShackleford: Thanks for the update/advisement . Marked for reference .
[02:57] <DeathRowe> ativauman, yakkety kat will have 4.8.
[02:57] <DeathRowe> ativauman, yakkety yak*
[02:57] <DeathRowe> ativauman,supposedly...
[02:58] <ativauman> Deathrowe: Does it have it now? If not, then when will it be added?
[02:59] <DeathRowe> ativauman, not sure. Far as I know Yakkety yak has not be released yet, nor beta. So we'll see?
[02:59] <OerHeks> !ubuntu+1
[02:59] <OerHeks> they can tell you
[03:00] <TXRoadkill> think I'll wait until they get the bugs worked out of 16.04 ;)
[03:00] <ativauman> Deathrowe: I have had problems manually updating to 4.7, but I guess I'll try updating to 4.8 and see if I get better results.
[03:00] <TXRoadkill> only had it installed for about a week, but I'm liking the upgrades
[03:01] <DeathRowe> ativauman, any reason you want to be on the latest?
[03:01] <Bashing-om> RustyShackleford: Did you also install the gstreamer1.0-vaapi package ?
[03:03] <ativauman> Deathrowe: I am using a polaris gpu and having problems with installing the proprietary driver on ubuntu gnome. It installed on kubuntu, but I am having numerous problems with the KDE de that are not necessarily related to the driver issue.
[03:04] <ativauman> I was also hoping that the newer version of kubuntu might fix the problems I am having with it.
[03:06] <ativauman> Actually, would it be okay if I asked for help with my kubuntu problems here? #kde and #kubuntu seem to be dead all the time.
[03:07] <ativauman> On second thought nvm, they're probably too extensive to be dealt with over irc.
[03:12] <Demon> anyone able to help me with website basics on my digital ocean server?
[03:13] <amazoniantoad> Hey guys! I'm trying to watch a blu-ray disk on my comp but it won't play. I tried some solutions online but it won't play because the blu-ray disk is newer
[03:13] <amazoniantoad> Any solutions you know of?
[03:13] <graamont> i have a delay with the audio when i play a youtube video...anyone knows how to fix this issue?
[03:15] <OerHeks> amazoniantoad, besides this tutorial, if your disc is too new, no clue >http://www.howtogeek.com/240487/how-to-play-dvds-and-blu-rays-on-linux/
[03:15] <DeathRowe> amazoniantoad, what are you using to play the file? Do you see that the disc is mounted to the file system?
[03:15] <TXRoadkill> amazoniantoad> Any solutions you know of? << Ubuntu has a problem with playing DRM DVDs
[03:15] <amazoniantoad> DeathRowe: vlc
[03:15] <TXRoadkill> doesn't have the authorization for the codecs
[03:15] <amazoniantoad> TXRoadkill: OerHeks I have heard of methods that don't involve ripping it from the disk
[03:16] <OerHeks> amazoniantoad, i read about that too, ripping and streaming again..
[03:16] <OerHeks> long time ago, current verion of blue ray has newer keys
[03:25] <amazoniantoad> Hey guys. Here is a solution that works: https://gist.github.com/coolaj86/4167539#file-install-bash
[03:25] <amazoniantoad> If you want to play blu-ray
[03:25] <amazoniantoad> see yah
[03:37] <Dylan____> hello guys
[03:37] <Dylan____> hey guys
[03:37] <Dylan____> i finally installed ubuntu after cd disks saying that it wouldnt let me
[03:38] <Dylan____> anyway can someone tell me how to get the latest version of wine
[03:39] <OerHeks> the wine version in our repos is tested, why the latest?
[03:41] <OerHeks> people come in here, that ppa's for wine do not work and we must help them to reverse that.
[03:41] <OerHeks> i won't.
[03:41] <niytro> DeathRowe, well after purging and reinstalling POL still showed wine 1.9.17-Staging installed... when i did sudo apt-get purge wine and hit tab there was nothing left after uninstalling
[03:41] <OerHeks> :-D
[03:41] <OerHeks> see, another victim
[03:42] <niytro> lol
[03:42] <niytro> and this is why i dual boot too much hassle im not skilled enough
[03:43] <niytro> i try to learn and its hours of nada
[03:44] <frost_> i use to dual boot but windows 10 is a pos
[03:44] <niytro> frost_, i dual w7
[03:45] <frost_> ah gotch lol i use to have xp/ fedora before just goin solid linux
[03:45] <niytro> i wish i could go linux only but i use programs on windows that i just cant get to work on linux
[03:45] <niytro> its frustrating
[03:46] <frost_> trust me i hear ya i have a windows computer in my office just for that
[03:46] <frost_> lol pain in the ass
[03:50] <niytro> so you went from dual boot to a whole seperate rig?
[03:50] <niytro> lol
[03:51] <niytro> windows 7 is even broken now, i did a fresh install and after service pack 1 the updater refuses to update
[03:54] <CharlesMu> who knows Chinese Deepin Linux 2015
[03:55] <OerHeks> CharlesMu, you better ask in ##linux, this is ubuntu support only
[03:56] <CharlesMu> why someone talk about win10?
[03:56] <ciretex> how do i start torgaurd on boot?
[03:56] <sypher> CharlesMu: Don't know, that's kinda off topic, too.
[03:56] <sypher> CharlesMu: Well, not kinda. It is off-topic.
[03:56] <OerHeks> win10 was mentioned in dual boot, i guess
[03:57] <CharlesMu> ok
[03:57] <DeathRowe> ciretex, https://www.reddit.com/r/linux4noobs/comments/22nts3/how_can_i_autoconnect_to_a_vpn_on_startup_with/
[03:58] <OerHeks> torguard on boot .. so it has root priv .. awesome!#
[04:02] <malice95> yo
[04:03] <ciretex> kali vs. ubuntu ?
[04:04] <DeathRowe> ciretex, depends on your needs.
[04:04] <OerHeks> unsupported and offtopic vs. supported
[04:04] <malice95> kali is the devil's distrp
[04:04] <DeathRowe> both debian based.
[04:06] <ciretex> i have used ubuntu but kali looks interesting. seems like i will set up a dual boot
[04:06] <malice95> Why does Kali look interesting to you?
[04:07] <OerHeks> !kali
[04:07] <SQL> bruce_dev: what do you need?
[04:07] <ciretex> seems kali has a lot me software to test security
[04:08] <DeathRowe> You can just load on usb and run live instance, instead of install. If you're just curious.
[04:08] <ciretex> Death that is probably what i will do
[04:10] <malice95> Im running a dualboot of ubuntu and debian. Can anyone explain why I can connect to wifi on ubuntu, but my wirless card doesen't seem to register when i run debian.
[04:10] <OerHeks> malice95, join #debian ?
[04:11] <morf> malice95: yes #debian is better place to ask... and you are most likely missing proprietary drivers for your wifi card in debian
[04:11] <OerHeks> unlikely they have no packages, but ask there to be sure
[04:11] <DeathRowe> You need to install the packages on debian...
[04:11] <morf> malice95: it's easy to do a bit of googling about your wifi type / driver and simply install it manually in debian
[04:11] <morf> gl
[04:14] <ciretex> i am making my daughter only use the computer to code. i don't want her to use it to watch youtube. any coding videos you have?
[04:15] <DeathRowe> ciretex, sounds contradictory...
[04:15] <DeathRowe> ciretex, what language?
[04:16] <ciretex> i know php and http but not locked on those
[04:17] <DeathRowe> ciretex, has a lot of introductory to different languages: https://www.codecademy.com/
[04:17] <ciretex> my wife is it in network. i have ccna and network 101
[04:21] <sypher> network 101, huh?
[04:21] <ciretex> nothing to learn about cisco's ios. my brother was the vp of cloud servives.
[04:22] <ciretex> yeah network 101
[04:22] <sypher> ciretex: And which vendor is that one through?
[04:22] <DeathRowe> Network 101?
[04:22] <DeathRowe> How many addresses available in /23?
[04:22] <sypher> Oooh, ooh, I know that one.
[04:23] <ciretex> network 101 was a bs progrAM TO LEARN CCNA
[04:23] <mindofmateo> Hello.  Is there a way to enable window snapping in 16.04 using the 'win'/'super' + L/R/U/D keys?
[04:23] <sypher> ciretex: c'mon, a ccna should know how many addresses are available in a /23 off the top of his head.
[04:24] <ciretex> /24?
[04:24] <ciretex> SUBNET
[04:24] <ciretex> i actually work as a general contractorer
[04:25] <sypher> DeathRowe: :)
[04:26] <DeathRowe> :D
[04:26] <DeathRowe> How many address in /24?
[04:26] <DeathRowe> Anyone?
[04:27] <ciretex> 255
[04:27] <DeathRowe> So how about a /23?
[04:27] <rypervenche> DeathRowe: This channel is for Ubuntu support. You might want to take your quizzes to off topic.
[04:28] <DeathRowe> rypervenche, sorry, off topic.
[04:28] <ciretex> DeathRowe: ewboydconstruction.com
[04:30] <ciretex> ewboyd construction.com
[04:30] <ciretex> ewboydconstruction.com
[04:31] <sypher> ciretex: Please stop.
[04:33] <jmadero> hi all - trying to permanently disable wifi power management in 16.04 tried these instructions but on reboot it's still enabled https://itechscotland.wordpress.com/2011/09/25/how-to-permanently-turn-off-wi-fi-power-management-in-ubuntu/
[04:34] <DeathRowe> jmadero, http://askubuntu.com/questions/606446/power-management-for-wireless-unable-to-turn-off-in-xubunu-15-04-vivid
[04:35] <ciretex> tnx fuck
[04:35] <jmadero> thanks DeathRowe - investigating
[04:35] <DeathRowe> ciretex, ??
[04:43] <Cypher-Punk> Does exFat filesystem on an external harddrive work with Ubuntu?
[04:43] <DeathRowe> Yes.
[04:44] <Cypher-Punk> I'm debating on formatting as NTFS or exFAT for my 6 terabyte external HDD. It'll be used with Ubuntu AND Windows.
[04:44] <DeathRowe> I used it on my usb drive extensively, since it works with pretty much any device.
[04:44] <dylan> hey guys im having trouble installing synaptic package manger
[04:45] <dylan> apprently also before i setup ubuntu i tried to install wps office and gdebi resulting in some error icon displaying : an error occured please run package manger goes on to say package wps office needs to be reinstalled
[04:55] <jmadero> if I'm running a bash job in crontab, do I actually have to call on bash?
[04:55] <jmadero> or can I just put the path to the file in crontab
[04:56] <SwedeMike> jmadero: depends if the file is +x and has #!/bin/bash at the beginning
[04:56] <jmadero> both yes
[04:56] <SwedeMike> jmadero: then you don't need to include bash
[04:56] <salamanderrake> my xorg is using 1072MiB of video ram, I believe there is a video mem leak.
[04:57] <jmadero> thansk
[04:59] <DeathRowe> salamanderrake, why do you believe there is a video memory leak?
[05:00] <salamanderrake> DeathRowe: why would Xorg need over half my video memory for?
[05:00] <salamanderrake> s/for//
[05:00] <jason_> exit
[05:01] <green64286> VIDEO MEMORY!!
[05:01] <salamanderrake> yes video memory
[05:02] <DeathRowe> free -m?
[05:02] <salamanderrake> https://gist.github.com/salamanderrake/2417598450085f454c570ad75ea3d004
[05:02] <salamanderrake> DeathRowe: nvidia-smi
[05:03] <agazed> hello
[05:04] <DeathRowe> nvidia-smi -i 0 -q -d MEMORY,UTILIZATION ?
[05:07] <salamanderrake> DeathRowe: https://gist.github.com/salamanderrake/5c5f2593f590c5ee65f512a4185ef0e9
[05:08] <salamanderrake> DeathRowe: free -m https://gist.github.com/salamanderrake/11ff42cdcc92554fda2f78f0d7a638d7
[05:10] <agazed> I just installed Ubuntu
[05:11] <jmadero> in rc.local, if I add multiple commands do I need & at the end of each line?
[05:16] <DeathRowe> ps aux --sort -rss ?
[05:18] <sorryclub> ls
[05:18] <jmadero> if I want to run this command on every boot, where should I put it? iwconfig wlp2s0 power off
[05:19] <agazed> just do sudo rm -rf
[05:20] <guzzlefry> agazed: Don't joke about that.
[05:20] <DeathRowe> don't do sudo rm -rf....
[05:20] <jmadero> lol unfunny
[05:20] <CharlesMu> hahaha
[05:21] <DeathRowe> agazed, how about dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda
[05:21] <siva_machina> sudo rm -rf c:
[05:22] <salamanderrake> DeathRowe: https://gist.github.com/salamanderrake/7dfac060168405c4e2a13a8d998907d6
[05:23] <DeathRowe> salamanderrake, weird, it doesn't look like xorg is really using much memory except in the nvidia-smi command....
[05:24] <salamanderrake> yeah, nvidia-smi is video memory, the others are system memory.
[05:26] <hateball> jmadero: you can put it in /etc/rc.local for instance
[05:26] <jmadero> hateball: it doesn't work there :-/
[05:26] <hateball> jmadero: Hmmm, it should. Unless systemd ignores that now perhaps
[05:31] <Bray90820> How would I boot ubuntu from a grub console
[05:31] <DeathRowe> salamanderrake, I'm at a loss at the moment. You try a reboot and see how much it consumes on a fresh boot?
[05:31] <salamanderrake> yeah, I will wait till #xorg picks up
[05:32] <DeathRowe> Okay. Sounds like a plan.
[05:32] <hateball> salamanderrake: are you running kubuntu 16.04?
[05:33] <salamanderrake> hateball: no its actually kde neon
[05:33] <salamanderrake> but its kdes stuff on top of xorg
[05:34] <salamanderrake> *on top of ubuntu.
[05:34] <hateball> salamanderrake: yea
[05:34] <hateball> salamanderrake: I was just thinking because default 16.04 is not very stable, so using the kubuntu ppa would have been preferable
[05:34] <hateball> but neon is even more updated, so
[05:35] <salamanderrake> hateball: it may be xorg, or the nvidia drivers having an issue with xorg.
[05:35] <hateball> salamanderrake: what driver are you using?
[05:36] <hateball> version, that is
[05:36] <salamanderrake> nvidia-367 which is 367.44 release version.
[05:36] <hateball> should be quite recent enough then
[05:37] <hateball> salamanderrake: tried with 370?
[05:37] <hateball> I use the nvidia ppa and 370 driver, works well for me at least
[05:37] <green64286> exit
[05:37] <green64286> exit
[05:40] <salamanderrake> hateball: the 367.44 are supposed to be the stable release drivers, and the 370 are the beta, but I will try the beta tomorrow, its late and I need some sleep.
[05:45] <hateball> salamanderrake: yea, I keep using betas tho. had some issues where 367 doesnt display anything with sddm. had to switch to tty1 and back and then it would work
[05:48] <factorx> Hi guys, can anyone help me with my mail server running on xenial? I want to use spamassassin for filtering discarding incoming spam. I see in /var/log/mail.log that mails are identified as spam, nevertheless, they are still delivered back to my MTA, instead of being discarded. What am I doing wrong? I'm using spampd as spam-proxy.
[06:03] <ceis> hello everyone
[06:03] <ceis> I want some friend
[06:03] <hateball> ceis: This channel is for Ubuntu support
[06:03] <hateball> !ot | ceis
[06:04] <ceis> okay thanks
[06:05] <YankDownUnder> hateball: Awwwwww...he just wanted a friend... ;)
[06:05] <OerHeks> !find selfie
[06:19] <daemon55> anybody know the command to install the laptop version of kubuntu
[06:21] <OerHeks> desktop-version = laptop-version, daemon55
[06:22] <daemon55> no thats not true i tried the dektop install on ubuntu and it didnt show the battery or battery options
[06:24] <OerHeks> Not sure why you have no battery indicator, still the dekstop image is also for laptops.
[06:24] <LUMIA930>  RAILS_ENV=development bundle install
[06:24] <LUMIA930> -bash: /usr/local/bin/bundle: /usr/bin/ruby1.8: bad interpreter: No such file or directory
[06:24] <LUMIA930> How to get this resolved
[06:24] <LUMIA930> already i have in /opt/rubies/ruby-2.2.3/bin.
[06:39] <Kabe0|2> anyone know how to specify the order for the DNS?
[06:39] <hateball> Kabe0|2: Care to elaborate?
[06:39] <Kabe0|2> I need my private network to load first
[06:40] <Kabe0|2> otherwise it can't resolve the domain
[06:40] <Kabe0|2> unless that's a sign of something else being wrong with the dns...
[06:41] <Kabe0|2> i have dns-nameserver and dns-search added to the interfaces config, but if the other public nextwork is also running it's getting appended first in the resolv.conf
[06:41] <Kabe0|2> *network
[06:41] <chinaghost> :)
[06:42] <anda> 第一次使用xchat
[06:43] <theos> hi
[06:43] <anda> 全部都是中国人吗？
[06:43] <hateball> !cn | anda
[06:44] <theos> i am searching for a file in nautilus and its not able to find it. but its on the disk. it does find it when i search it from just outside it's folder. but not when i search it from the top folders etc. it looks like nautilus is ignoring a full partition for some reason. what can be the cause of it?
[06:44] <ubuntu887> hey guys question can I migrate a non existing setup that has 2 partitions, one /boot and one non encrypted root, to a boot and an encrypted root just by copying the / files, creating a cryptsetup luks volume for the / and copying the / files back ?
[06:46] <theos> this has never happened before
[06:48] <Ben64> it's possible that nautilus doesn't go into other filesystems
[06:50] <theos> its just ext4 on a data storage partition. and nautilus could very easily search files till a few days ago
[06:50] <theos> i was thinking maybe badbocks made some directories inaccessible but looks like its not the case
[06:52] <theos> there is /media/data1 and /media/data2 . so i go to /media and search for a file. the files can be found on data1 but not on data2.
[06:54] <Kabe0|2> you know what... this might be kvm that's messing up my world
[06:54] <Kabe0|2> oh has to be static...
[06:58] <Kabe0|2> wow im even dummer, ping only looks at the first interface
[06:58] <Kabe0|2> you have to specify it manually to ask which interface to use
[06:58] <Kabe0|2> well good to know after wasting 30 minutes
[07:00] <Meganizm> hi
[07:00] <Meganizm> anyone here
[07:00] <Kabe0|2> me
[07:00] <cfhowlett> ask your ubuntu questions Meganizm
[07:01] <Meganizm> im on a Linux basics class right now
[07:01] <Meganizm> just getting familliar with this distrbutive
[07:02] <Meganizm> hows everyone doing_
[07:02] <cfhowlett> Meganizm, chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic. do you have an UBUNTU question??
[07:02] <Meganizm> ah alright, no i dont have for now
[07:03] <Meganizm> how can i activate Root on Ubuntu
[07:03] <Kabe0|2> sudo su
[07:03] <Kabe0|2> or
[07:03] <Kabe0|2> just sudo
[07:03] <cfhowlett> !root | Meganizm
[07:03] <Meganizm> whats the difference
[07:03] <cfhowlett> read the above please
[07:03] <OerHeks> no we don't answer class questions :-D
[07:04] <Meganizm> are there any risks with root
[07:04] <Kabe0|2> If you have ever used any other unix like OSX or BSD they all contain good material on this subject as well
[07:04] <Meganizm> its not a class question, im just curious ÖD
[07:04] <Kabe0|2> yes you can delete everything
[07:04] <Meganizm> even the unix
[07:04] <cfhowlett> Meganizm, yes.  be aware that ubuntu does not enable root by default, thus use sudo not root.
[07:05] <Meganizm> how to enable suod
[07:05] <Meganizm> sudo
[07:05] <Kabe0|2> you don't enable it
[07:05] <cfhowlett> Meganizm, open your terminal and type        man root
[07:05] <Kabe0|2> the module is installed on all ubuntu distros
[07:07] <Meganizm> ok
[07:08] <Meganizm> i typed sudo ap instal.... thing in the terminal and the process has finished successfully
[07:08] <Meganizm> does that mean im sudo now
[07:08] <Kabe0|2> I suggest for now just messing around your home folder until you get comfortable enough to venture into the system files. Never use sudo unless your sure what your doing.
[07:09] <Meganizm> im on a virtual machine so its fine
[07:09] <auronandace> Meganizm: sudo allows you to run commands as root, it is enabled by default
[07:09] <Kabe0|2> sudo is a one time action it is not a permanent state
[07:09] <Rarrikins> Meganizm: sudo only runs one command as root
[07:10] <LUMIA930> Can some one help me out in setting up bash profile ?
[07:10] <Kabe0|2> depends
[07:10] <Kabe0|2> what are you wanting to do?
[07:10] <blackflow> Meganizm: the only permanent state is that it remembered you entered your password correctly, for a certain period, so subsequent commands would not again require password.
[07:11] <OerHeks> Rarrikins, noit true, the 2nd command with sudo, you don't nbeed to type password again, for 5 minutes or so
[07:11] <LUMIA930> < -bash: /usr/local/bin/bundle: /usr/bin/ruby1.8: bad interpreter: No such file or directory>
[07:11] <OerHeks> man sudo
[07:12] <Kabe0|2> when are you getting this error
[07:12] <Rarrikins> OerHeks: I was talking about the number of commands it runs, not its entire specification.
[07:14] <OerHeks> Rarrikins, you say it as you have no root priv with the 2nd command.
[07:14] <LUMIA930> how do fix bash issue ?
[07:14] <Rarrikins> OerHeks: No, I said that sudo only does one command at a time
[07:15] <auronandace> OerHeks: i think what he means is that whatever command you want to run as root you'll need to prefix with sudo (regardless of whether you need to enter the password again or not)
[07:15] <Rarrikins>  OerHeks: The second time, it will also run only one command.
[07:15] <Kabe0|2> you add anything to your bash config recently like a macro?
[07:15] <OerHeks> run one command <> need to type password again, i get the difference
[07:17] <Netek> if the server is using ssh key to connect with root account, would allow root login still disable the key based login?
[07:18] <Netek> PermitRootLogin I mean
[07:18] <maxb> Use "PermitRootLogin without-password"
[07:18] <Netek> maxb ok I will check it out thanks
[07:18] <Kabe0|2> you can't login as root
[07:19] <Kabe0|2> oh you can enable it?
[07:19] <Kabe0|2> but you still have to go in and sudo su no?
[07:19] <cfhowlett> Kabe0|2, bad idea on multiple levels ...
[07:19] <Kabe0|2> yea
[07:19] <Kabe0|2> i always lock it personally
[07:21] <Netek> so I should stick with sudo. and disable root entirely
[07:21] <Kabe0|2> think of it this way, how important is the data on that computer
[07:22] <Netek> Kabe0|2 not too important, I have other servers that have root disabled entirely.
[07:22] <Netek> I will disable root entirely though as seems best practice
[07:22] <Kabe0|2> also be carful with ssh keys. Make sure it has a password on it so that someone cannot just steal your key and use it
[07:22] <blackflow> Netek: it's advised to do that, but it's marginally more secure than logging in as root, if you know what you're doing. In other words, don't think it's much more secure just because direct root access is disabled.
[07:22] <maxb> "so I should stick with sudo. and disable root entirely" .... those words don't really make sense, sudo is just another way of becoming root
[07:23] <rory> not necessarily maxb, you can use sudo to escalate individual commands
[07:23] <Netek> maxb I am referring to login
[07:23] <blackflow> maxb: correct, hence the false sense of security with disabling direct login
[07:23] <maxb> rory: yes, to root
[07:23] <rory> maxb: It just means avoid the habit of using "sudo -s" or "sudo su"
[07:23] <rory> maxb: and don't let "root" user be directly logged in to
[07:24] <maxb> I worry how much people seize this concept and think it makes them 'more secure'
[07:24] <rory> yes true, but disabling direct root logins IS slightly more secure especially if you have ssh server on the internet
[07:24] <Netek> maxb well it is more secure than allowing direct root login
[07:24] <j4son> even worse, they never properly learn to handle the # prompt
[07:24] <Kabe0|2> it slows them down a bit
[07:24] <Kabe0|2> maybe not by much
[07:24] <j4son> it's this big scary thing they've been told not to touch forever and ever
[07:24] <maxb> I agree it would be foolish to allow password login to root over a network connection.
[07:25] <j4son> why?
[07:25] <Netek> having to guess a sudo user on a server is surely more secure than somebody using root and they have direct access to super commands
[07:25] <blackflow> Netek: yes, but marginally more.
[07:25] <rory> j4son: because someone bruteforcing the internet right now (thousands of them) are definitely trying "root" user first
[07:25] <j4son> rory: ok, pick a strong passphrase
[07:25] <j4son> problem solved
[07:25] <rory> agreed it is a little bit "security through obscurity" but I prefer to think of security through layers
[07:26] <maxb> If making usernames hard to guess is a part of your security policy, IMO you're doing security wrong :-/
[07:26] <rory> Disabling root logins is a PART of a broad security policy
[07:26] <rory> No single part should allow the whole thing to come crumbling down though
[07:26] <cfhowlett> +!
[07:26] <cfhowlett> +1
[07:27] <rory> anyway #ubuntu-offtopic ?
[07:27] <j4son> prolly
[07:27] <blackflow> rory: exactly!
[07:27] <blackflow> defense in depth, security onion, layers.
[07:29] <blackflow> who knows how many vulns there are for an attacker to abuse the kernel or a running process and become root WITHOUT knowing any passwords. If the attacker has logged into your system, you're compromised, game over. root or no root, sudo or no sudo.
[07:29] <blackflow> so disabling root? yes, sure, just don't think of it more than being another (small) lock on your door.
[07:30] <Kabe0|2> next in security passwords... Game passwords... Play a game for 5 minutes and the software tracks your gaming patterns to determine if the user is authentic.
[07:30] <blackflow> don't concentrate on securing your door if the windows are wide open. :)
[07:40] <agazed> Hey guys! I found a new trick that will speed up your system! Just type in "sudo rm -rf --no-preserve-root /" into your terminal and wallah!
[07:40] <cfhowlett> agazed, stop that immediately
[07:40] <OerHeks> hahaha ....
[07:40] <OerHeks> !danger
[07:40] <cfhowlett> !ops | agazed
[07:40] <OerHeks> go to school, kiddo.
[07:41] <Colin__> hello
[07:41] <Colin__> I'm trying to contact beijing, China
[07:41] <blackflow> whoever runs that command, published by someone on irc, without knowing what it does, deserves the lesson. why the drama? :)
[07:41] <Colin__> i know that's weird and not necessarily related to Ubuntu
[07:41] <cfhowlett> Colin__, ?? and this is ubuntu support so???
[07:41] <cfhowlett> Colin__,  they have phones there ...
[07:41] <Colin__> I know...
[07:42] <Colin__> ...but my friend is an ubuntu dev there
[07:42] <Colin__> and I'm not going to get the phone number until tomorrow and I just want to leave a note saying a variable was misnamed before I go to bed...
[07:42] <OerHeks> try #ubuntu-cn ?
[07:43] <cfhowlett> Colin__, most Dev teams have considerable online.  even the #ubuntu-cn team
[07:43] <Tin_man> don't they have email in china?
[07:43] <iceeey> Hi, I was wondering if there could be any issues arising from running ntpd and then setting up a cronjob to run ntpdate every 10 minutes? I came into a situation where my server's time has drifted by more than 15 minutes and wondering if this could be the cause (e.g. they don't play well together). Running Ubuntu 14.04.2. Thanks for any ideas.
[07:44] <OerHeks> iceeey, if such time differences occur, did you tweak/overclock the mobo?
[07:44] <blackflow> iceeey: wrong approach. if you run ntpd, your time should be correct, if it isn't, then you have to find out why: does ntpd work at all, or the clock is so broken even ntpd won't adjust it?
[07:44] <YankDownUnder> iceeey: Is there any software that's been installed that is dependent on time, or requires time checking in some sense?
[07:44] <cfhowlett> iceeey, no idea about the clock but you might want to upgrade.  current release is 14.04.5
[07:44] <OerHeks> or the bios-clock is off-time ..
[07:45] <blackflow> but running both ntpd and cron'd ntpdate has zero sense
[07:45] <YankDownUnder> CMOS battery costs: $1.95 AUD
[07:46] <OerHeks> i Yank them from old pc's ( i love the wordgame)
[07:46] <YankDownUnder> OerHeks: :)
[07:47] <iceeey> It wasn't my idea to set it up this way :) Basically, we had some issues where a remote service that we make requests to is dependent on the our server being within 15 minutes of the remote service. Someone setup the ntpdate cronjob, and apparently that still hasn't fixed the problem :)
[07:48] <iceeey> blackflow: as far as I know, ntpd works -- I mean, it is logging messages to syslog that it is correcting the time
[07:48] <blackflow> iceeey: just run ntpd, and you can monitor the offset with ntpq
[07:48] <blackflow> iceeey: then you don't need ntpdate via cron
[07:49] <YankDownUnder> iceeey: The time at the client side of the situation - is it in sync with you? I ask this only because I've been in a situation where the client was actually (drum roll) wrong...
[07:51] <iceeey> YankDownUnder: the time seems to be correct at this moment, but it wasn't 6 hours ago (according to the remote service -- I have no idea if that's accurate)
[07:52] <YankDownUnder> iceeey: The hardware that the server lives on - is there actual doubt about it's veracity? (Is it possible the CMOS/BIOS is not functioning properly?)
[07:52] <theos> hi
[07:53] <theos> is there a way to change the default "sort by" in nautilus search?
[07:53] <theos> i managed to do it in the folder view but cant figure out whats the search called
[07:54] <OerHeks> theos, in nautilus options you can sort by all fields .. "arrange items by: ... "
[07:54] <theos> OerHeks how to make it default
[07:54] <iceeey> YankDownUnder: I honestly don't know -- I wouldn't rule it out...
[07:54] <OerHeks> theos once set, it will be default.
[07:55] <theos> OerHeks it isnt default in search
[07:55] <blackflow> iceeey: instead of trusting that remote service, monitor your ntpd offset. something like Munin can graph it for you nicely, there's ntp_offset plugin.
[07:55] <blackflow> iceeey: and true, that then means you're trusting the ntp peers instead.
[07:56] <theos> OerHeks i have to do it everytime i search something
[07:57] <theos> i am on lubuntu 16.04 though. if that changes things
[07:57] <iceeey> blackflow: good idea, I will take a look into monitoring it.. thanks :)
[07:57] <blackflow> iceeey: also the logs will tell you how much has been corrected, so you can observe from that as well
[08:00] <OerHeks> theos, i see, no there is no entry for search order, i checked dconf too > org > gnome > nautilus > preferences
[08:01] <theos> OerHeks but it was the default behavior in the previous install. so maybe there is a way to set it again?
[08:02] <OerHeks> theos, i have no clue, cannot find such info, even it was available in older versions
[08:02] <cfhowlett> theos, well, when things go horrifically scrambled for a user in XFCE, you can nuke the .xfce settings and revert to factory fresh
[08:03] <theos> cfhowlett this behavior IS factory default so there is  no use nuking the settings
[08:03] <cfhowlett> theos, ?  sorry, I must have misunderstood
[08:04] <theos> its ok. i want to change the default behavior and make it default.
[08:05] <OerHeks> factory default search preference setting??  not seen it..
[08:06] <theos> the search system is using a default setting though. no?
[08:07] <OerHeks> i think you want gnome-search-tool >> http://i.stack.imgur.com/YYIV6.png
[08:08] <theos> thanks. that would be overkill.
[08:09] <OerHeks> I 'd love that in nautilus, anyway.
[08:09] <theos> yes i would love that built-in nautilus. mainly regex
[08:12] <YankDownUnder> theos: It would appear that Gnome - in their infinite wisdom, have quite removed much of the "customisation" of searching...what I have found is of very little usage...and doesn't pertain to much other than "Contacts, Documents then everything else"...
[08:17] <theos> YankDownUnder i see
[08:19] <alakx> Hello. I am trying to use pkcs11 engine on ubuntu 14.04 and i get this error : http://pastebin.com/WNjmfzmh .. Googled it, found nothing useful
[08:20] <alakx> I get the feeling there is a problem within libary
[08:44] <Wanderer-> How can i mount an external harddrive which is HFS+ with write access on ubuntu? Ive tried many ways but even when it says i can write to it, i still get Read Only
[08:45] <OerHeks> Wanderer-, you need to disable journaling, but you don't want that .. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/hfsplus
[08:45] <OerHeks> * if you want to use it again on a mac
[08:46] <Wanderer-> so the answer is i cant?
[08:46] <OerHeks> You can, but it will be a problem then.
[08:47] <OerHeks> it is not written in big red letters on that wiki > Disabling journaling on your main OS X partition is not recommended however  ...
[08:52] <YankDownUnder> Wanderer-: Just as a word of warning - I had to give up on using HFS+ due to consistent issues with permissions - and have dealt with data loss on externals...sadly so...
[08:53] <Exterminador> hello.. i'm trying to do, if i can call it a shell script, to use ssh tunneling trought my vps. i've used the following syntax: nano proxy; wrote "ssh -p 22 1080 user@host" (without quotes); saved the file; typed "chmod u+x proxy".. when i type: ./proxy it works.but asks me to enter the password manually for the user.. how can i automate the process?
[08:56] <KpuCko> Exterminador you have to use key based authoriozation
[08:58] <KpuCko> Exterminador http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/how-to-set-up-ssh-keys-on-linux-unix/
[09:02] <tdiesel> Hello
[09:03] <tdiesel> Hello
[09:05] <tdiesel> Someone here
[09:05] <blackflow> !ask | tdiesel
[09:06] <soee> what does it mean: mogrify: unable to open image `20160828_170001.jpg': Permission denied @ error/blob.c/OpenBlob/2712. i can edit that photo with any gui
[09:06] <tdiesel> Hiiiii!!!!!!
[09:07] <tdiesel> Hello
[09:09] <williy> guten tag
[09:10] <moai> Hi. I'm using ubuntu 14.04 and can't log into unity properly anymore. If I try, I only get an empty desktop (no panels and shortcuts like ctrl+alt+T don't work)
[09:10] <moai> I think the window manager might not start properly
[09:11] <tdiesel> Hi can anyone help me with my lubuntu,
[09:11] <tdiesel> every time I open the picture Halas and confused .
[09:11] <blackflow> moai: "anymore"? did you change anything before that?
[09:12] <williy> kein Deutsch
[09:12] <hateball> !de | williy
[09:12] <moai> blackflow: no. not intentionally at least. maybe an update/upgrade broke smth
[09:12] <blackflow> moai: and was there an update/upgrade before that?
[09:13] <tdiesel> so now that you mention
[09:13] <Wanderer-> YankDownUnder, i gave up on it as well and this is my second time encountering such an issue and i consider myself an advanced user. Does apple just lock peoples data under their proprietary file system if you could even remotely call it that.
[09:13] <moai> blackflow: probably. i don't ususally immediately reboot/relogin after an update. so there probably was a time delay
[09:14] <blackflow> moai: whenever I see an update to anything unity or xorg specific I always restart lightdm, or you can just reboot.
[09:14] <moai> i have rebootet since the problem appeared this morning. doesn't fix it
[09:15] <moai> as a quick fix, how can I select mate-desktop in the lightdm login step?
[09:15] <tdiesel> οκ
[09:15] <blackflow> moai: and was there an update? which packages, if so? You can check in /var/log/apt/history.log
[09:16] <tdiesel> ohh! i have to go bye
[09:17] <blackflow> moai: if you have it installed, there should be an icon/option to change DE on the login prompt
[09:18] <moai> blackflow: there was a huge update a week ago that included the x-server and graphics stuff like mesa. I think my problem might be related to compiz not working properly. but honestly, right now i'm moe interested in a quick fix so i can at least get back to work
[09:18] <shadie> hi all
[09:19] <moai> blackflow: i have installed mate with apt-get install mate-desktop. I think the DE-selction button should be next to my login name in lightdm, right? But there is nothing
[09:19] <blackflow> it should yes
[09:19] <moai> do I have to update lightdm somehow?
[09:20] <blackflow> moai: I don't know, but quick search yields this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/476793/how-to-change-the-default-desktop-environment-that-appears-in-the-greeter-in-1
[09:21] <moai> blackflow: I'm sorry, I'm not sure how to read this since I'm in the tty1 of my broken system right now
[09:21] <moai> could you be so kind and give me the gist of that site?
[09:21] <syby2> hey I'm taking the LFCE exam on friday and I picked ubuntu as my distro choice (for servers I'm more a debian guy - but debian isn't a choice) anyway... it seems this is 14.04 (not 16.04) ... and it seems 14.04 used upstart? (ick!) so i'm wondering do the usual systemctl commands work?  or should I specifically learn upstart ones?
[09:22] <blackflow> moai: okay, so ls /usr/hare/xsessions, do you see anything other than ubuntu.desktop?
[09:22] <shadie> any1 to help me to install ns2 ? i any helper ?
[09:22] <blackflow> moai: /usr/share/xsessions
[09:22] <blackflow> !ask | shadie
[09:23] <moai> blackflow: no, only ubuntu.desktop
[09:23] <maxb> moai: Try creating a new user account and logging into that. I have often found desktop issues can be related to the contents of your per-user configuration.
[09:24] <shadie> allright. i went through the steps in http://installwithme.blogspot.com.eg/2014/05/how-to-install-ns-2.35-in-ubuntu-13.10-or-14.04.html  , and could not perform the last part in step 4 "source ~/.bashrc"  nad it gave me this error "-su: /root/.bashrc: Permission denied" . what can i do ?
[09:25] <ducasse> syby2: you would need to learn the upstart way of doing things, it's different from systemd. no systemctl.
[09:25] <shadie> i do nto knwo what wrong i did in rpevious steps
[09:28] <blackflow> !info ns2
[09:28] <YankDownUnder> moai: If you're in a term, and you think that "compiz" might be the issue, what about renaming the compiz preferences (~/.config/compiz-1)(or similar) and trying to login again?
[09:29] <blackflow> shadie: there's a package in ubuntu, you just need to `apt-get install ns2`
[09:29] <Exterminador> sorry, i was away.. is there no way to make the script send the password?
[09:29] <shadie> blackflow, i am very newbie into linux. the problem is how to deal with linux itself
[09:29] <blackflow> shadie: actually prefix that with sudo
[09:30] <shadie> this command is not recommended as http://www.programming9.com/database/31-ns2-tutorials/260-install-ns2-2-35-on-ubuntu-14-04 says
[09:30] <moai> maxb: you were right. I can log into unity with a guest session. which account settings might cause my problem?
[09:31] <pbxman> what's the best IRC client for ubuntu?
[09:31] <maxb> moai: Well, that's tricky to say. At this point I usually start by moving aside ~/.config/, seeing if it fixes the issue, and then selectively moving bits back
[09:31] <blackflow> shadie: I don't know, but that page says it's "not recommended" because it segfaults. Well, maybe, for that user, back then (feb 2015). Did you try it now?
[09:31] <Exterminador> pbxman: maybe hexchat..
[09:31] <YankDownUnder> moai: What is the window manager you're using with Unity?
[09:32] <pbxman> thank you Exterminador
[09:33] <Exterminador> you're welcome
[09:33] <shadie> blackflow,  actually i need to fix my problem not to restart new installation.
[09:34] <maxb> shadie: If you're new to Linux, I think you'd be far better off using Ubuntu packages of software rather than some recipe on a blog with evil adverts and typos.
[09:35] <YankDownUnder> "Beware the Evil Advertisement and Typos!" hehehehe...love it...
[09:35] <moai> maxb: even in the guest login i have massive graphics artefacts. I think my recent xserver upgrade broke the graphics stack somehow
[09:36] <YankDownUnder> moai: You can reconfigure the graphics for xorg easily enough...you can do a console login to TTY1, do: sudo lightdm stop => sudo dpkg-configure xorg
[09:37] <maxb> That sounds like a different problem to the one mentioned before, though
[09:37] <YankDownUnder> maxb: Since he did an upgrade, and it borked xorg...yeah...it would bork many other bits and bobs...like compiz, for one...and Unity, for two...
[09:43] <blackflow> shadie:  well no, if you can use the ubuntu package, that's better as you have control over the files and any updates to the packages will come through regular apt-get upgrade. But if you want help with that specific error, and I don't know how much of a favor I'd be doing by helping you do that, you need to use sudo to edit root's bashrc. the question is why would you want to. I don't know that
[09:43] <blackflow> software, why does it need root's bash?
[09:54] <moai> YankDownUnder: dpkg-configure does not exist on my system
[09:55] <moai> is it dpkg-reconfigure maybe?
[09:57] <OerHeks> dpkg --configure or dpkg-reconfigure
[10:01] <deronnax> hey people
[10:03] <JasonSome> hi. How do I choose to use gcc 5 and not gcc 6 temporarily on Ubuntu 16.04?
[10:04] <Guest34258> update-alternatives
[10:05] <Guest34258> see: http://askubuntu.com/questions/26498/choose-gcc-and-g-version
[10:05] <geirha> CC=gcc-5 make
[10:08] <thiras> is there any command to purge all autoremoves?
[10:09] <qe> Can my computer run ubuntu? https://postimg.org/image/orezhftn7/
[10:09] <Mathisen> qe, stop showing off..you wrote that in multiple channels
[10:11] <thiras> ok found it
[10:12] <JasonSome> ok, thanks.
[10:13] <TheHackOps> Is there something wrong with launchpad
[10:13] <TheHackOps> or the official ubuntu mirrors
[10:13] <genbu> hello. how  i can restore original xenial splashscreen after kubuntu-desktop installation? I try many guides on internet but i failed
[10:13] <TheHackOps> Taking a billion years to install things via apt-get
[10:14] <OerHeks> Try changing mirror?
[10:15] <OerHeks> genbu, ' sudo update-alternatives --config default.plymouth ' should give you a menu to choose from
[10:16] <OerHeks> and after this>  sudo update-initramfs -u
[10:16] <hateball> genbu: sudo update-alternatives --config default.plymouth
[10:16] <OerHeks> http://askubuntu.com/questions/709025/how-to-change-splash-screen-ubuntu-back
[10:16] <hateball> genbu: pick the splash you want, then run sudo update-initramfs -u
[10:17] <hateball> OerHeks: ugh, I am so slow
[10:17] <hateball> oh well :D
[10:17] <genbu> yes. http://paste.ubuntu.com/23106822/
[10:17] <genbu> yes so i made
[10:18] <OerHeks> genbu, the original as before installing kubuntu is selected
[10:18] <genbu> yes. original splashscreen of ubuntu xenial
[10:19] <genbu> now i see only 3 squares
[10:21] <genbu> i have removed kubun splashscreen but it didn't restore the original ubuntu spalshscreen
[10:22] <genbu> i have tried to reintall also ubuntu plymouth logo, but it didn't fix
[10:22] <OerHeks> did you run that update part after that?
[10:23] <genbu> yes, every time
[10:23] <genbu> i run sudo update-initramfs -u
[10:23] <OerHeks> strange, as the logo remains ..
[10:24] <genbu> i try again
[10:24] <genbu> now i reboot
[10:24] <genbu> thanks
[10:25] <TheSuperGeek> Hello, i've got the same problem as here : http://askubuntu.com/questions/814184/ubuntu-16-04-intel-graphics-dual-extended-monitors
[10:26] <genbu> nothing
[10:26] <TheSuperGeek> can someone help me ?
[10:26] <mistralol> I am trying to use saslauthd but when start the services it just exits. It doesn't print anything in the logs and it does have START=yes int he /etc/default/saslauthd anyone any suggestions?
[10:27] <PCdude> I want to make an unattended version of ubuntu, I have seen some options like preseed, is that the simplest way to do it?
[10:29] <sammyg> i need help with wifi connection
[10:29] <sammyg> i installed ubuntu 16.04 yesterday
[10:29] <sammyg> i type in correct key but it doesn't connect
[10:30] <sammyg> i tried 2.4 GHz and 5 GHz band... same!
[10:30] <sammyg> it appears it does not remember the key i typed in
[10:31] <sammyg> when i look at the edit window for the wifi connection the password field is blank? is this normal?
[10:33] <sammyg> i can see both of my wifi ap in the list of connections, but when i click on one of them i get a "wifi network authentication required" prompt
[10:33] <hateball> sammyg: if you run "dmesg" in a terminal after you try to auth, does it show anything interesting?
[10:33] <sammyg> i have to type in the password again... and even when i do, still... it does not connect... but it should, because it is correct
[10:34] <hateball> sammyg: what chipset/driver do you have? run "lspci -k"
[10:34] <sammyg> define "interesting"?
[10:35] <hateball> sammyg: error messages or something of the sort
[10:35] <hateball> !paste
[10:36] <sammyg> i see "unknown chipset" and i see "can't request region for resource", then "unsupported splx structure"
[10:36] <sammyg> these are red in color
[10:37] <mpl0de> ping
[10:48] <sammyg> hateball: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23106889/
[10:50] <sammyg> hateball: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23106898/
[10:51] <sammyg> Sky Lake Host Bridge? would that be the chipset?
[10:52] <hateball> sammyg: the wifi is the bottom entry
[10:53] <sammyg> ok
[10:54] <sammyg> so no driver for Intel Corporation Wireless 7265 then?
[10:56] <sammyg> driver in use iwlwifi? is this no good for my wifi?
[10:57] <hateball> sammyg: no it's as it should be
[10:57] <hateball> sammyg: what type of network are you trying to connect to? B, G, N, AC?
[10:58] <sammyg> N
[10:58] <sammyg> 2.4 GHz
[10:58] <sammyg> i also tried 5 GHz with same result
[10:58] <sammyg> i have dual band router
[10:59] <hateball> sammyg: Is it possible to change to G and connect to that?
[11:00] <hateball> sammyg: or we can just disable it in the driver first and see if it helps, that is probably easier
[11:01] <hateball> sammyg: run this: echo "options iwlwifi 11n_disable=8" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/iwlwifi.conf
[11:01] <hateball> sammyg: then you reboot the machine to have it boot with the new option. See if you can connect then
[11:10] <Bellator> I just discovered workspaces. AWESOME
[11:30] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:33] <daniele12457> Hi, I have problem with ubuntu and chrome
[11:33] <daniele12457> when chrome uses all my ram, it generates a lots of IO that makes ubuntu freeze
[11:33] <daniele12457> I wonder why the oom does not kill chrome?
[11:35] <BluesKaj> daniele12457, could be the adblocker if you have one installed
[11:37] <sagi_> it is impossible to do aircrack with usb wireless interface?
[11:39] <k1l> sagi_: yes, but we dont support wifi hacking in here. look into the documentation how to use aricrack
[11:40] <daniele12457> BluesKaj: really? how do you know that?
[11:40] <sagi_> k1l: got it. thanks.
[11:41] <BluesKaj> I had chrome installed and when I disabled the adblocker the cpu and memory usage dropped drastically, daniele12457
[11:43] <Jan\> how do I make lubuntu save files downloaded from firefox with 755 permissions by default ?
[11:45] <akik> Jan\: i don't think that's possible
[11:46] <akik> Jan\: even if you set umask to 0022 the files will not get the x bit
[11:47] <Jan\> akik: so I guess I have to chmod everything I download ?
[11:47] <LordLaravel> shouldn't have to
[12:01] <purope> Hi, quick question, how do I use merely bash commands in order to set a user to both sudo and to be able to run commands as sudo without having to type in a password?
[12:02] <mishero> man visudo
[12:02] <EriC^^> purope: sudo adduser <user> sudo adds him to the sudo group
[12:02] <purope> EriC^^: Got that
[12:02] <purope> EriC^^: but how to remove the need for the user to type in their password?
[12:02] <EriC^^> then you need this line in /etc/sudoers <user> ALL=(ALL:ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL
[12:03] <mishero> join ##java
[12:03] <mishero> join #java
[12:03] <EriC^^> you could append that line to it with echo "<user> ALL=(ALL:ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL" | sudo tee -a /etc/sudoers
[12:03] <purope> Cool
[12:04] <purope> Now sure what the tee commands does, but if it works I'm happy
[12:09] <Jan\> LordLaravel: how?
[12:12] <CodFection> why the hell do I keep getting error : unity scope encountered error?
[12:13] <CodFection> ??
[12:13] <Ramona> penis
[12:14] <CodFection> why the hell do I keep getting error : unity scope encountered error?
[12:16] <KlausedSource> hey, this might be a bit offtopic...i want to make a cronjob which runs twice per week on random weekday/time
[12:17] <KlausedSource> does it work as i want it with "* * * * 1 command"
[12:24] <KpuCko> KlausedSource this will run every monday
[12:24] <KpuCko> not on random time
[12:25] <KlausedSource> KpuCko, is there a way to achieve what i want with cron (built in) or would i need to make a script for that?
[12:27] <AEL-H> What is the difference between [[:digit]] and [:digit:], I found a question on askubuntu.com that used the former, but only the latter would work for me
[12:27] <KpuCko> you can use simple script to generate random numbers from 0 to 6 and use it as day of week, another script (line) with random generator for two digits numbers to use it on minutes field
[12:29] <AEL-H> KpuCko: Is this in response to me or someone else?
[12:30] <KpuCko> sorry AEL-H, this is response for KlausedSource
[12:31] <KpuCko> AEL-H i think there is no diffference between [[:digit]] and [:digit]
[12:32] <AEL-H> KpuCko: I thought the same, but only the latter allows this command to show correct output : "lsblk  --noheadings --raw | awk '$1~/s.*[[:digit:]]/ && $7==""'  "
[12:33] <KpuCko> KlausedSource see this about random generator http://unix.stackexchange.com/a/140751/172229
[12:35] <krexlip> hello i start to use i3wm in my ubuntu 14.04 and i use dmenu as application launcher but i don't know how can i display( launch ) my system preference ( setting program ) for change some config
[12:35] <blut> How can I tell apt to ignore any prompts posed by the installation of nis? I have already set the /etc/defaultdomain and --assume-yes does not avoid the prompt
[12:36] <Rarrikins> blut: Does pressing enter repeatedly work?
[12:36] <blut> Rarrikins: I need to script it
[12:36] <Rarrikins> blut: Right, but does pressing enter repeatedly work?
[12:36] <KpuCko> AEL-H can i pm to you?
[12:37] <AEL-H> KpuCko: Sure
[12:37] <blut> Rarrikins: You mean as a pipe?
[12:37] <Rarrikins> blut: I mean, if you were using a keyboard.
[12:37] <blut> Rarrikins: yes
[12:38] <Rarrikins> blut: You can do `yes '' | whatever`
[12:38] <blut> I just found a much nicer way. 'debconf-set-selection'
[12:42] <heedly> How do I find a font with a certain code point in it?
[12:46] <ikonia> what is a font code point
[12:46] <Rarrikins> heedly: Perhaps https://unix.stackexchange.com/a/258127/37148
[12:48] <\9> ikonia: location of a glyph in a font
[12:48] <\9> or rather, in an encoding such as ascii or utf-8
[12:59] <weise> Hay ich bin ein neu Zugänger soll ein Test sein Danke
[13:03] <heedly> ikonia: 68537
[13:06] <kittykitty> im using libproc and reading from /proc/loadavg but seemingly randomly on starting my program it will error out with "bad data in /proc/loadavg" and i cant find any info on it anywhere
[13:07] <ikonia> heedly: ?
[13:12] <Netek> I am using vsftpd, is there any way of viewing who is currentlt connected via ftp and possibly view traffic rate?
[13:12] <heedly> ikonia: that's the code point
[13:13] <kittykitty> anyone able to help me understand the units policy for ubuntu? I need to package across distributions and ubuntu is making that really hard. Maybe i'll just actively violate the policy and keep base 2?
[13:22] <KpuCko_> Netek you can watch the traffic rate realtime with tools for network monitoring. See iptraf, nload, nethogs, nmon and etc.
[13:22] <ducasse> heedly: are you looking for a particular glyph?
[13:22] <KpuCko_> Who is connected, maybe you can find this information on the status log.
[13:22] <KpuCko_> Or xfer log.
[13:22] <ThJ> RTL8821AE driver on Ubuntu 16.04 seems to be unstable. Connection dies suddenly without error, ping says "sendmsg: No buffer space available".
[13:22] <ThJ> I'm on a brand new Lenovo IdeaPad 110.
[13:22] <nadim> hi, I have a package manager problem.  I needed to recompile glic, i followed instructions found6 on internet (no link sorry), it asked for some extra packages. the installation fails saying that libc-dev-i386 will not be installed. since, many packages can't be installed because of that dependency. What do I do now?
[13:23] <ThJ> At first it refused to connect, now it works for a few minutes and then dies.
[13:24] <ThJ> It was timing out on auth earlier. I turned off UEFI Safe Boot in the BIOS and once I was in Ubuntu again it was able to connect, but not for long...
[13:25] <martinspedro> hello?
[13:25] <mcphail> nadim: you run away quickly. Recompiling libc is an excellent way to destroy your system, especially if you have no idea what you're doing
[13:26] <nadim> well there is no other choice but having another glibc on my system since someone decided it was going to be build with elision support and that breaks on many cpu/microcode on new machines
[13:27] <martinspedro> quit
[13:27] <OneM_Industries> Hey, so.
[13:28] <nadim> there is a request for having the possibility to switch TSX on/off at run time, but I doubt that will be implemented any time soon
[13:28] <Rarrikins> nadim: Are you sure it wasn't libc6-dev-i386?
[13:29] <ducasse> ThJ: that driver, or rather the chipset, is _crap_. the best thing to do is get a better wifi adapter.
[13:29] <nadim> even if I could live with the old libc, that is with threads in libuv (pthreads really) that segfault for some applications, I'd need to at least get my system to install simple things like links!
[13:29] <mcphail> nadim: having another version of libc is fine. Trying to shoehorn that version of libc in with the package manager is not fine. Build it, keep it somewhere else and LD_PRELOAD it when you need it
[13:29] <nadim> Rarrikins: libc6-dev-x32 and gcc-5-multilib are dependent on libc6-dev-i386
[13:30] <OneM_Industries> I'm having a bit of an odd issue. The backups utility is saying it is installed, but when I search for it, it is nowhere to be found. Any ideas?
[13:30] <nadim> mcphail: Indeed, that is also a solution and probably the lest risky. I still have the problem of getting the packaging system to work as before (that was my question to start with)
[13:31] <Rarrikins> nadim: Did you do something to the packaging system?
[13:31] <Peasant65> hey!! I have a problem with my nic. When I try to change the Ip of my nic from dhcp to static it ADDS the IP address, but doesn´t remove the dhcp one. I just want 1 static IP
[13:31] <nadim> Rarrikins: except trying to install packages, no
[13:31] <mcphail> nadim: what version of ubuntu is this anyway?
[13:31] <xangua> OneM_Industries: if you mean you can find the command in terminal but not in the menu, you may need to restart your user session, are you using unity desktop?
[13:32] <Rarrikins> nadim: Try `sudo apt update; apt show libc6-dev-i386`
[13:32] <Peasant65> This is my interfaces file: http://pastebin.com/wkhBEkVK
[13:32] <Peasant65> There´s nothing in interfaces.d
[13:33] <nadim> Rarrikins: 4.4.0-34-generic Kubuntu 16.04
[13:33] <nadim> Rarrikins: it says that it is unable to locate the package
[13:35] <OneM_Industries> xangua: I can find it in the software center, but not in the HUD. Not sure what the command for it in the terminal is.
[13:36] <golserma> I'm wondering if vmbuilder is still supported for  16.04.
[13:36] <nadim> Rarrikins: an apt-get -f install gives me an error (I think different from what I got a few days ago),  error processing archive ... trying to override /usr/include/bits
[13:36] <phantom10111> Hi, when I return back to my computer with my screen off and I move my mouse to show the lock screen I'm greeted with only a black screen and a mouse pointer and I can't enter my password (but ctrl+alt+f1 works). I can restart lightdm to fix this but it will kill my session and all my programs. Is there a way to fix this (like restart unity or something) without destroying my session?
[13:37] <golserma> it is trying to install linux-image-virtual and failing This kernel does not support a non-PAE CPU.
[13:38] <Rarrikins> golserma: You need a CPU with PAE enabled.
[13:38] <BluesKaj> Peasant65, comment out lines 8 & 9 as shown in the pastebin
[13:38] <Rarrikins> nadim: You can try deleting the archive file it mentions and trying again.
[13:39] <z999> is there a current update to adobe flash?
[13:39] <z999> it stops at 11.2
[13:39] <Peasant65> BluesKaj, what´s wrong with my loopback addr ?
[13:39] <nadim> Rarrikins: deleted file, ran apt-get -f install again and I get the same result
[13:40] <golserma> Rarrikins, if I look at /pro/cpuinfo I see PAE
[13:40] <Rarrikins> z999: See https://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/ (particularly the version it mentions you having and the Linux, Firefox section below)
[13:41] <nadim> Rarrikins: it seems that libc6-dev-i386 and libc-dev-amd64 both have /usr/include/bits
[13:41] <BluesKaj> Peasant65, not sure , but I'm using static IP settings too and I have  no auto lo or loopback in mine, and it works well
[13:41] <golserma> flags           : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe syscall nx lm constant_tsc arch_perfmon pebs bts rep_good nopl aperfmperf pni dtes64 monitor ds_cpl vmx est tm2 ssse3 cx16 xtpr pdcm dca lahf_lm tpr_shadow dtherm
[13:41] <ThJ> ducasse: huh, well, does it misbehave on windows?
[13:41] <golserma> The Kernel on the host is 4.4.0-34-generic #53-Ubuntu SMP
[13:41] <BluesKaj> Peasant65, I can pastebin my  interfaces file if you want
[13:42] <Rarrikins> golserma: It may be disabled in your BIOS settings. If not, I'm not sure of a fix.
[13:42] <golserma> Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU           E5345  @ 2.33GHz
[13:43] <golserma> I'm not using any 32bit stuff why do I need PAE?
[13:44] <Rarrikins> golserma: PAE and so on is generally needed for 64-bit.
[13:44] <BluesKaj> Peasant65, http://pastebin.com/FC8X4iCG
[13:45] <golserma> Rarrikins, is there a way to see if my current kernel is using PAE?
[13:46] <ThJ> ducasse: so far i've tried the rtlwifi-new-dkms to try to improve things for the rtl8821ae, but it still stalls.
[13:46] <nadim> Rarrikins: it seems that the packages that have unmet, or impossible, dependencies are not installed, can one tell the packaging system to simply flush thos uninstalled packaged from it"todo# list?
[13:46] <ThJ> i would imagine it's fixable but this is fairly new hardware isn't it.
[13:47] <ducasse> ThJ: no idea, all i know is that realtek are really bad at releasing the necessary info for building good drivers. the best driver i found was on github, and it still has problems.
[13:48] <Rarrikins> nadim: Not that I know of. The only way I found caused complaints when I tried to install something else later.
[13:48] <ThJ> ducasse: it's a shame to use up a usb port for wifi imho, and you don't get to use the screen antenna if the laptop has one...
[13:50] <Rarrikins> golserma: I'm not sure.
[13:50] <BluesKaj> golserma,  PAE is used if you wnat to add menory greater than 4GB and have your 32 bit pc use more than 4GB with the proper settings
[13:50] <golserma> maybe this is bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/vm-builder/+bug/1037607
[13:51] <nadim> Rarrikins: is there another forum where people knowing the packaging system can help? if I have to fight with the packaging system I can as well go back t Gentoo ;)
[13:53] <BluesKaj> golserma, check this site https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PAE/Enabling
[13:54] <EleanorEllis> I have a little windows program called beat.exe which runs fine in wine if I call it from the command line with wine ~/Downloads/beat.exe or if I right click on the file and click "Open with Wine". However, I added a shortcut to my programs menu with that same command and it doesn't run. When I select "Open in terminal" and run it from the programs menu, the terminal appears briefly and then disappears.
[13:54] <lock> Hello, I'm the developer of a software that is available in repositories: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/siril However, this software is not available in the software center. Is it because I did not write an appda.xml file in the package ? If yes, if I add this file in /usr/share/appdata it should fix the issue ?
[13:54] <Rarrikins> nadim: If the package that's missing is libc-dev-i386, the package you're trying to install is broken. If the package that's missing is libc6-dev-i386, you've probably messed with /etc/apt/sources.list or sources.list.d or added a PPA.
[13:55] <ikonia> lock: what repo is it in
[13:55] <Rarrikins> EleanorEllis: Run `which wine`
[13:55] <Rarrikins> EleanorEllis: Use that instead of wine in the shortcut.
[13:55] <Rarrikins> EleanorEllis: I mean, use whatever it outputs
[13:56] <nadim> Rarrikins: whsudo apt update; apt show libc6-dev-i38ere I can I get the original source.list, maybe overriding the one I have now would fix the problem.
[13:56] <lock> ikonia: it comes from debian: https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/siril
[13:57] <CustosLimen> So I'm considering XFX or MSI RX 470 or RX 480 - anybody using any of these ?
[13:57] <ducasse> ThJ: if it's on a mini-pci card you can just replace it.
[13:57] <nadim> Rarrikins: short of creating a vm just to install a fesh system just to diff with my system
[13:57] <ikonia> lock: what ubuntu repo is it in
[13:57] <ThJ> ducasse: i was thinking of that, lol
[13:57] <ThJ> ducasse: but it seems to claim to be an USB device.
[13:57] <EleanorEllis> Rarrikins: It makes no difference. The terminal still just flashes up and disappears so quickly I can't read it
[13:57] <lock> ikonia: I would say universe: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/siril
[13:58] <ikonia> lock: why do you think it's in universe
[13:58] <Rarrikins> EleanorEllis: I mean, press Ctrl+Alt+T, run `which wine`, write down what it tells you, and put that in place of "wine" in the shortcut.
[13:58] <golserma> Maybe the problem is that I'm running a SMP kernel?
[13:58] <ikonia> lock: you need to know what repo it's in - not guess
[13:59] <ikonia> lock: the next thing - is the universe repo enabled on your system
[13:59] <Rarrikins> nadim: If you have 16.04: https://askubuntu.com/a/775880/147763
[13:59] <EleanorEllis> Rarrikins: I did that. The result was /usr/bin/wine which I put in the shortcut so now it reads /usr/bin/wine ~/Downloads/beat.exe
[13:59] <lock> ikonia: because it is written hiere https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/siril : release (universe)
[13:59] <Rarrikins> nadim: Also, `ll /etc/apt/sources.list.d` to make sure there's nothing there.
[14:00] <ikonia> lock: ok, is the univsere repo enabled on your system
[14:00] <Rarrikins> EleanorEllis: Try changing ~ to /home/username
[14:00] <lock> ikonia: sure, I can dowload the software with apt install. My question is just why I can see it on software-center
[14:01] <ikonia> lock: software center should display it
[14:01] <ikonia> lock: as software center should just parse the repos, hence asking if universe is enabled
[14:01] <EleanorEllis> Rarrikins: Thanks. It was the ~ that was confusing it. I didn't realise that wouldn't work everywhere.
[14:01] <lock> ikonia: yes for sure, and I need to fix it
[14:02] <lock> ikonia: it just parse the repos ? No need of extra xml file ?
[14:02] <Rarrikins> EleanorEllis: No problem.
[14:02] <ikonia> lock: as far as I"m aware it shouldn't need anything else
[14:02] <mcphail> lock: one of the Ubuntu guys wrote a blog about this recently. I think the current software centre parses the .desktop file for information
[14:02] <lock> ikonia: because as I said I did not use an appdata.xml at first. But I'm thinking to fix it
[14:02] <ikonia> lock: do any of the other package manager frontends (synaptic for example) shouw it
[14:02] <mcphail> lock: (if other avenues aren't available)
[14:03] <lock> ikonia: I see it in synaptic (I believe, I need to retest)
[14:04] <cmishra> hello
[14:04] <ikonia> lock: so there must be something (as you suspect) that software center is expecting, very surprised by this
[14:05] <cmishra> has anyone faced any connection problems with ubuntu make?
[14:05] <Guest11157> Meow
[14:05] <ikonia> cmishra: connection to what
[14:05] <nadim> Rarrikins: I have a few files in /etc/apt/sources.list.d, google-earth (broken) some graphic drivers and wine repos, shall simply remove them?
[14:05] <rahul_kumi> could someone help me out with the a installation of LTspice for ubuntu
[14:05] <Guest11157> MEEEEEOOOOOOWWW!!!!!!!!!!!!! KITTY!
[14:05] <ikonia> Guest11157: please don't do that
[14:05] <cmishra> as in my institute has blocked ports i guess.. as a result of which i am not able to use hexchat..
[14:06] <mcphail> lock: ikonia: http://mhall119.com/2016/03/help-make-gnome-software-beautiful/
[14:06] <Rarrikins> nadim: You can move them to a new directory in your home directory for now.
[14:06] <lock> ikonia: I've read it: https://people.freedesktop.org/~hughsient/appdata/
[14:06] <cmishra> similarly i am facing problems with ubuntu make when trying to install anything
[14:06] <Rarrikins> nadim: Then try `sudo apt update; apt show libc6-dev-i386`
[14:06] <Guest11157> MEEEEEOOOOOOWWW!!!!!!!!!!!!! KITTY!!
[14:06] <lock> ikonia: But I did not know if it was mandatory. But know I think that it is
[14:06] <ikonia> lock: I'm surprised by that
[14:07] <mcphail> lock: looks as if you need "Type=Application" as a minimum in your .desktop file for it to be indexed
[14:08] <lock> ikonia: mcphail: thx for the link, I will read it. I am surprised too. But I have a desktop file in my package with Type=Application yes
[14:09] <mcphail> lock: coo. Sounds as if you'll need to search abit deeper as to why your package isn't being indexed, but I strongly suspect it is something to do with this AppStream business
[14:09] <Fixer> irc.freenode.net
[14:09] <lock> mcphail: ok, so adding the appdata.xml file should fix it
[14:10] <nadim> Rarrikins: hehehe!, I removed the files, replaced the contents, then tried to install meld, I get the same problem with unmet dependencies. the packaging system obviously is an old bastard that can't let go.
[14:10] <rahul_kumi> can LTspice be installed on ubuntu
[14:10] <nadim> Rarrikins: I'll try sudo apt update; apt show libc6-dev-i386
[14:10] <nadim> didn't see your comment before
[14:11] <marshal> Hey Im Workng On Building A Debian Based OS
[14:11] <nadim> Rarrikins: still the same, following packages have unmet dependencies
[14:12] <mcphail> lock: I hope so. It seems needlessly complicated, doesn't it?
[14:12] <Fixer> #ubuntu
[14:12] <Fixer> hello there
[14:12] <lock> sure it is
[14:12] <lock> mcphail: sure it is
[14:13] <Rarrikins> nadim: What about `sudo apt install -f libc6-dev-i386` ?
[14:13] <lock> mcphail: I'm building package for debian, ubuntu, linux mint and fedora.... so you can imagine
[14:13] <Fixer> -->
[14:13] <Fixer> <
[14:13] <Fixer> <  >
[14:14] <mcphail> lock: well, at least it should be a distro-agnostic solution ;)
[14:14] <lock> mcphail: I hope so. I will commit my changes and will see
[14:15] <marshal> I Just Got A Lite Installaton Of My New Debian Based OS
[14:15] <ikonia> marshal: this doesn't releate to this channel
[14:15] <marshal> Oh Ok
[14:16] <marshal> Well Im Writing On A Ubuntu Host:3
[14:16] <marshal> #ubuntuislife
[14:16] <lock> ikonia: thx for the link, I will read it
[14:16] <ikonia> this channel is not for your debian based OS, sorry
[14:16] <ikonia> lock: you found it, not me,
[14:16] <ikonia> lock: I'm as surprised as you
[14:17] <lock> ikonia: In fedora at least, this is a new rule. Application without appdata.xml are not listed in software center anymore. But I did not found something on Ubuntu or Linux Mint.
[14:17] <nadim> Rarrikins: same problem as before, /usr/include/bits is also in libc6-dev-amd64
[14:18] <JAY6390> hi. Wondering if someone here can help with upgrading 10.04.4 LTS to a more recent version? Tried to do this myself via the do-release-upgrade and changed my sources to the old-releases sources since they were failing, but still can’t do it
[14:18] <JAY6390> It’s a server install, so command line only
[14:18] <lock> ikonia: Fedora seems to use the same Appstream data by the way. Indeed, the share the same comments for applications, so I think this is the same database
[14:18] <Keitaro> hello all
[14:19] <mcphail> lock: yes - looks as if Ubuntu tries to hack around missing appstream data by using the .desktop file, but often fails
[14:19] <Gue-clone> what did do-release-upgrade say?
[14:20] <JAY6390> Gue-clone 1 sec, let me run it again. It went to a different screen, and basically said to press x to close, or r to start it again
[14:20] <lock> mcphail, ikonia: Yes. take a look here: https://wiki.debian.org/AppStream/Guidelines Siril exist. But here http://appstream.ubuntu.com/xenial/universe/metainfo/index.html it does not.
[14:20] <Gue-clone> pastebin the exact output if possible
[14:21] <Rarrikins> nadim: Try this: https://askubuntu.com/a/585811/147763
[14:21] <lock> mcphail ikonia: sorry the first link is: https://appstream.debian.org/stretch/main/metainfo/index.html
[14:24] <nadim> Rarrikins: unchanged!
[14:24] <mcphail> lock: hope you get it sorted. Must be incredibly frustrating when your are commiting time to package apps and facing situations like this.
[14:27] <lock> mcphail: yes... This project this is 3 years of my life. I would expect to see it in the software center of Ubuntu LTS, but no :(. (I am a debian user, so I did not see it until yesterday)
[14:28] <lock> mcphail: thx for your kindness!!
[14:29] <JAY6390> Gue-clone: http://pastebin.com/mvnj2dMm
[14:30] <nadim> Rarrikins: I continued to purge all the packages that kept poping out till I came to a point where it seems to work!
[14:30] <nadim> Rarrikins: many thanks, I may come back for more help though, i now have to figure out how to compile a glibc manually
[14:31] <Rarrikins> nadim: No problem.
[14:34] <de-facto> hmm pulling updates from main server... some come in quite fast, others are really slow, like 50 kB/s or such... why is that?
[14:35] <mcphail> mhall119: if maintainers like lock above ^^ get appstream metadata sorted out for their packages, do those changes get backported into xenial so the apps will show up in the software centre on the LTS release?
[14:36] <aryklein> is it possible to add a new printer in my server and make it not visible for some users?
[14:36] <mhall119> mcphail: backports aren't automatic, no
[14:37] <mcphail> mhall119: is there a process which can be trggered?
[14:37] <mhall119> the backports process :)
[14:37] <mcphail> mhall119: ha! Ok :)
[14:38] <frodox> Hi, guys! Is it "safe" to use `apt` for software installation/removing? Does it work as good as `aptitude` for deps resolving and system's consistency?
[14:39] <andrefreitas> Hi there, I have a bridge(br0) that uses em1, that is the default physical network interface. When the default gateway goes through em1 I can't ping anything. However, when it goes through br0, I can ping a node in the lan or internet. Is this an expected behaviour?
[14:40] <mcphail> frodox: from my experience, apt seems closer to apt-get than aptitude with regards to conflict resolution
[14:43] <frodox> mcphail, so, aptitude still do it better, right? :) I'm find with aptitude, except there is no installation progress and colors =\
[14:43] <frodox> *fine
[14:43] <mcphail> frodox: use whatever you prefer :)
[14:44] <frodox> mcphail, well, I do not want to get broken system after upgrade :D
[14:44] <mcphail> frodox: aptitude was broken for a while, around the multiarch transition, but I think it is safe to use now
[14:44] <frodox> oh
[14:46] <guntbert> frodox: in my experience apt/apt-get work without problems, even through upgrades
[14:47] <tdannecy> frodox: apt, apt-get, and aptitude all run on top of dpkg, so they use the same base tool for conflict/resource resolution.
[14:47] <kawkawoo> is there any application in ubuntu  that can scan my network for  Intruders like "Wifi guard" app ?? i used to have it in windows //
[14:48] <frodox> tdannecy, AFAIK, dpkg doesn't resolve deps itself (as like rpm), so, aptitude / apt do it manually in their way. Am I wrong?
[14:50] <JAY6390> Think my issue may stem a little deeper - http://pastebin.com/Mi1kFFWM
[14:50] <JAY6390> I tried the -f but that looks like it’s going to remove a lot of stuff my server needs
[14:51] <JAY6390> http://pastebin.com/7fUEBJmn
[14:51] <JAY6390> any ideas Gue-clone ?
[14:51] <kawkawoo> ????????????????????????,
[14:52] <NukeWithG> hey fellas, I just installed Lubuntu on my T41, and I'm trying to set up some third party plug ins for pidgin, how do I get to the folder where I throw the plug in files? can't seem to find it
[14:52] <Braven> what is command to confirm that grub was updated
[14:54] <m1dnight_> Hrm, something went wrong during dist-upgrade. Ssh is inaccessible, neither on the backup daemon that was provided on port 1022
[14:54] <m1dnight_> Should I hard reset my server?
[14:54] <BluesKaj> kawkawoo, wireshark
[14:56] <kawkawoo> BluesKaj : i heard about it wut its complicated !! is there an easy  application that can do this job for people <ho are not experts ????
[14:56] <krizoek> hi, someone of you know where i can find the best dash documentation? i read somewhere that someone said dash was non-interactive. what would that mean? wouldn't it allow for user-inputs?. and also whats a good site for finding collections of dash scripts?
[14:56] <mokl> this is rediculous but... what is the default user name and password for a new mysql installation?
[14:57] <JAY6390> mokl usually root with no pass
[14:57] <tdannecy> kawkawoo: You can get most of that information directly from your router.
[14:57] <mokl> that's what I tried but it doesn't work... always get a "access denied" error
[14:57] <skinnay> what would cause a repo not to be updated even though it's in sources.list?
[14:58] <JAY6390> mokl: try this - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MysqlPasswordReset
[14:58] <skinnay> apt-get update acts as if it's not there
[14:58] <kawkawoo> tdannecy: yes but am using linux so i have to install an app it in ubuntu
[14:59] <tdannecy> kawkawoo: No just go to 192.168.1.1 or whatever your router ip is. Then you can see all of your connected devices.
[15:00] <mokl> JAY6390, when I run mysql as suggested, then it justs quits after a second and produces no output in spite of --verbose
[15:01] <mokl> *mysqld
[15:01] <BluesKaj> kawkawoo, check netstat and it's associiated commands for incoming connections, usually the man pages will give some info
[15:01] <JAY6390> not sure then, I’m no expert. Best guess is it’s a corrupted db table or something in your my.cnf producing an error on startup
[15:02] <mokl> it's a brand new installation I never used for anything, so how could it be corrupted?
[15:03] <JAY6390> as I say, no expert those were just my guesses :)
[15:03] <nicomachus> hardware issues?
[15:03] <mokl> JAY6390, yeah I know, thanks nevertheless
[15:04] <mens745796> yuguiiuun
[15:05] <mens745796> hello
[15:05] <m1dnight_> Hrm, I got the server up via a hard connection, but I can't seem to SSH to it.
[15:05] <m1dnight_> Oh, network interface is gone :<
[15:06] <AndChat349076> What does hard connection mean?
[15:06] <m1dnight_> Well euh
[15:07] <m1dnight_> Oh, physical access :) I didn't think about that one
[15:20] <MrHall> Hello. Someone knows java irc channel?
[15:20] <poseidon> ##java?
[15:20] <Rarrikins> MrHall: ##java
[15:20] <MrHall> or programming irc chanel?
[15:20] <m1dnight_> Join ##Java
[15:20] <m1dnight_> Hrm, I can't get p5p1 to go up
[15:20] <poseidon> #DicksOutForHarambae?
[15:20] <m1dnight_> Ive tried clearing the /etc/network/interfaces file and replace it with defaults but it failed.
[15:21] <MrHall> are you joking? :S
[15:21] <m1dnight_> MrHall: Join ##java
[15:21] <m1dnight_> Not kidding.
[15:22] <MrHall> i can´t access
[15:25] <MrHall> guys i can´t  join ##java
[15:25] <DeaDSouL> hi, I wrote a small bash script,, but because of the 'Unknown' it doesn't work as it should... http://paste.debian.net/794831/
[15:25] <MrHall> and #java has pass
[15:26] <Pici> MrHall: ##java requires that you be registered and identified to join.
[15:26] <Pici> !register | MrHall
[15:26] <MrHall> Thanks pici
[15:29] <m1dnight_> Any tips on fixing this failed to bring up p5p1 thing?
[15:29] <m1dnight_> I had docker installed anda VPN, I guess it's those things that broke it.
[15:29] <m1dnight_> Apt-get is also borked because of mongodb and owncloud
[15:31] <ikonia> so far you've not said what the problem is
[15:31] <ikonia> just complained that things are broken
[15:31] <m1dnight_> The problem is that my interface doesn't come up.
[15:31] <m1dnight_> And it shows "Failed to bring up p5p1"
[15:31] <m1dnight_> As I said.
[15:31] <ikonia> how/where is it configured
[15:31] <ikonia> what happens if you manually try to bring it up
[15:32] <ikonia> what does the syslog show
[15:32] <m1dnight_> That very error.
[15:32] <m1dnight_> You mean dmesg?
[15:32] <ikonia> no, I mean the syslog
[15:36] <Guest96017> hola
[15:36] <Guest96017> espasi
[15:37] <ikonia> !es | Guest96017
[15:37] <Guest96017> gracias
[15:38] <m1dnight_> Nothing particular, ikonia
[15:38] <logical> anyone have iphon here connected to pc?
[15:38] <m1dnight_> If you mean syslog in /var/log/
[15:38] <Guest96017> #ubuntu-es
[15:38] <ikonia> m1dnight_: yes
[15:38] <brunch875> it's the first time I see someone use "espasi" to refer to spanish. And I'm spanish myself
[15:38] <ikonia> m1dnight_: how/where is your interface configured
[15:39] <m1dnight_> Well, here's the thing. I had a VPN setup as well as docker. I can remove docker, but that fails due to apt-get being borked.
[15:39] <Rarrikins> Guest96017: /join #ubuntu-es
[15:39] <m1dnight_> I had tried to remove the routes using `ip route del ..` but that doesnt fix it
[15:39] <ikonia> m1dnight_: the device is not a vpn device
[15:39] <m1dnight_> I see the interface in ifconfig, though.
[15:39] <ikonia> that is a physical network device
[15:39] <logical> I had a car accident and my iphone screen broke all i want is to extract data to pc, the phone is working but the screen is not so i cant click "trust now" for new device
[15:39] <m1dnight_> No, but maybe the bridge or w/e is breaking it.
[15:39] <ikonia> logical: ubuntu is not the OS to do that
[15:40] <logical> ikonia any advice?
[15:40] <ikonia> m1dnight_: if you stop/disable the vpn service the device should stop configuring bridges
[15:40] <Rarrikins> logical: Did you trust any computers?
[15:40] <ikonia> logical: contact apple
[15:40] <m1dnight_> i
[15:40] <logical> yes
[15:40] <ikonia> logical: it's not really something for this channel
[15:40] <Rarrikins> logical: You can probably do a backup via iTunes on that computer.
[15:40] <m1dnight_> In /etc/network/interfaces I have put "auto p5p1 \ iface p5p1 inet dhcp"
[15:40] <logical> well i asked is it possible to do with ubuntu :P, ok thx for info guys
[15:41] <ikonia> m1dnight_: what bridge or tun devices is that physical interface associated with
[15:41] <ikonia> m1dnight_: is the vpn service up and running ?
[15:42] <m1dnight_> The vpn service is indeed running. The physical interface is associated with p5p1
[15:43] <ikonia> m1dnight_: that is the physical interface
[15:43] <ikonia> m1dnight_: I'm asking what bridge or tun devices the physical interface as associated with
[15:43] <ikonia> m1dnight_: stop/disabled the vpn service too
[15:43] <m1dnight_> Okay I have done that.
[15:44] <m1dnight_> I had tun0 which was, I think, the vpn
[15:44] <m1dnight_> but ifconfig or ip route don't show it anymore.
[15:44] <m1dnight_> I still have the configuration files that kept track of how I configured it, I'll check, sec.
[15:45] <ikonia> m1dnight_: once you stop the vpn serice it should drop the vpn bridge devices
[15:46] <m1dnight_> Okay, then that is what happend, I guess.
[15:46] <m1dnight_> now I guess I should get rid of that pesky docker0 interface
[15:46] <rubens_> to install grub
[15:48] <skinnay> why is apt ignoring a ppa I've added when I update? I don't get any errors, it just skips over that one repo entirely
[15:48] <m1dnight_> Okay, I've removed the link, docker0
[15:48] <m1dnight_> I tried service networking restart, no fix
[15:49] <skinnay> ive tried it in sources.list and in its own file in sources.list.d/
[15:49] <tgm4883> skinnay: you'd need to put the file you added on a pastebin as well as the output of a apt-get update run
[15:50] <thisargumentisin> -R RUN RECURSIVELY ON http://* <= How is this useful?
[15:51] <thisargumentisin> -V SET VERSION NUMBER <= or this?
[15:51] <thisargumentisin> NAME     blerp SYNOPSIS     blerp {[ OPTION | ARGS ]...[ ARGS ... -f [FLAGS] ...}     blerp {... DIRECTORY ... URL | BLERP} OPTIONS ] -{} DESCRIPTION     blerp FILTERS LOCAL OR REMOTE FILES OR RESOURCES USING PATTERNS DEFINED BY ARGUMENTS AND ENVIRONMENT VARIABLES. THIS BEHAVIOR CAN BE ALTERED BY VARIOUS FLAGS. OPTIONS     -a      ATTACK MODE     -b      SUPPRESS BEES     -—      FLAGS USE EM DASHES     -c      COUNT NUMBE
[15:52] <thisargumentisin>     -d      PIPES OUTPUT TO DEBUG.EXE     -D      DEPRECATED     -e      EXECUTE SOMETHING     -f      FUN MODE     -g      USE GOOGLE     -h      CHECK WHETHER INPUT HALTS     -i      IGNORE CASE (LOWER)     -I      IGNORE CASE (UPPER)     -jk     KIDDING     -n      BEHAVIOR NOT DEFINED     -o      OVERWRITE     -O      OPPOSITE DAY     -p      SET TRUE POPE; ACCEPTS "ROME" OR "AVIGNON"     -q      QUIET MODE; OUTPUT IS PR
[15:52] <mcphail> thisargumentisin: stop spamming the channel please
[15:52] <thisargumentisin>     -q      QUIET MODE; OUTPUT IS PRINTED TO STDOUT INSTEAD OF BEING SPOKEN ALOUD     -r      RANDOMIZE ARGUMENTS     -R      RUN RECURSIVELY ON http://*     -s      FOLLOW SYMBOLIC LINKS SYMBOLICALLY     -S      STEALTH MODE     -t      TUMBLE DRY     -u      UTF-8 MODE; OTHERWISE DEFAULTS TO ANSEL     -U      UPDATE (DEFAULT: FACEBOOK)     -v      VERBOSE; ALIAS TO find / -exec cat {}     -V      SET VERSION NUMBER     -y 
[15:52] <thisargumentisin> srry not seen
[15:52] <m1dnight_> What is happening.
[15:53] <Erati> im so scared
[15:53] <m1dnight_> Is there any config I can just recover? I have my entire FS backed up on a NAS, so I could just copy over all the stuff I needed.
[15:53] <xangua> skinnay: what Ubuntu release, what repository?
[15:53] <Erati> i don't have hillary's emails stop trying to hack me bruh
[15:53] <SonikkuAmerica> !paste | thisargumentisin
[15:53] <thisargumentisin> http://pastebin.com/NTp3WwFQ <= Like this?
[15:54] <thisargumentisin> can someone explain this manual to me?
[15:55] <SonikkuAmerica> thisargumentisin - aye. What is that thing anyway?
[15:55] <tguthrie> Hi, I am having trouble with using partman in a preseed to partition two disks. I see examples for lvm and raid online but not just two separate disks. Does anyone know if this is possible?
[15:56] <thisargumentisin> it should be a program that migrates windows to ubuntu
[15:56] <thisargumentisin> so i can keep my wallpaper, etc.
[15:57] <thisargumentisin> but i dont understand that
[15:57] <danny_> So bluetooth. Still can't reliably connect with A2DP to my speaker
[15:57] <danny_> kinda infuriating really.  Windows does it easily, android does it easily
[15:57] <nubcake> how do i set date and time to the current via shell?
[15:58] <xangua> thisargumentisin: wallpapers, etc.? Just copy you wallpapers
[15:59] <thisargumentisin> settings
[15:59] <thisargumentisin> programs
[15:59] <thisargumentisin> like Firefox
[15:59] <skinnay> xangua: ubuntu precise, ppa:formorer/icinga
[15:59] <thisargumentisin> o^r word
[15:59] <xangua> skinnay: don't think precise is supported any longer
[15:59] <xangua> ! Precise
[16:00] <xangua> Oh it is
[16:00] <skinnay> just barely lol
[16:01] <skinnay> there is a package for precise in the repo so it should work
[16:01] <xangua> skinnay: so what's the output you get?
[16:02] <thisargumentisin>  http://pastebin.com/NTp3WwFQ How can i use this to mirgate windows to ubuntu?
[16:03] <skinnay> https://bpaste.net/show/8598dde484a5
[16:03] <k1l> skinnay: "sudo apt-get update" and then run "apt-cache policy packagename"
[16:03] <skinnay> I see a few lines in there from ppa.launchpad.net but can't tell if that's the one
[16:03] <brunch875> thisargumentisin: That doesn't look like a serious program. Where did you get it?
[16:04] <daverk> join #spiria
[16:05] <skinnay> k1l it still shows the older version of the package
[16:05] <thisargumentisin> @ brunch i was on google how to migrate windows to ubuntu, then i found a website
[16:05] <thisargumentisin> so this hapens
[16:05] <xangua> skinnay: did you put that line manually on your source file? Or did you use add-apt-repository ?
[16:05] <skinnay> xangua I tried both
[16:05] <k1l> skinnay: please show the output of "apt-cache policy packagename" in a pastebin
[16:06] <ducasse> thisargumentisin: that is not a real program, it's a pretty well-known joke
[16:06] <brunch875> thisargumentisin: oooh, xkcd made that joke
[16:06] <rahul_kumi> how to install wine
[16:06] <brunch875> it will not help you migrate windows to ubuntu :p
[16:06] <k1l> thisargumentisin: that is not a real command
[16:07] <thisargumentisin> i found it: http://xkcd.com/1692/
[16:07] <thisargumentisin> lol
[16:07] <thisargumentisin> i was realy triing to understand that
[16:07] <xangua> !ops | antipsychiatry spam on dm
[16:07] <brontosaurusrex>  -p      SET TRUE POPE; ACCEPTS "ROME" OR "AVIGNON" < nice one
[16:08] <deronnax> hi
[16:08] <skinnay> k1l: https://bpaste.net/show/c8d8520bb54f
[16:08] <deronnax> what would be a sane, portable way to find the syslog unix socket on linux ?
[16:09] <skinnay> that is the currently installed version, but if you look at the repo it should have 2.5.3 available https://launchpad.net/~formorer/+archive/ubuntu/icinga?field.series_filter=precise
[16:09] <thisargumentisin> antipsychiatry spam on dm: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) <= what is this?
[16:10] <ikonia> thisargumentisin: don't worry about it
[16:10] <ikonia> just focus on your own problem
[16:10] <k1l> skinnay: no. the package didnt build for 32bit and 64bit for precise
[16:10] <danny_> so bluetooth just straight up doesn't work properly on linux?
[16:11] <rahul_kumi> #radare2
[16:11] <brunch875> thisargumentisin: This is the ubuntu support channel, and it tends to clutter with people helping each other. For general chit-chat #ubuntu-offtopic can be used ☺
[16:11] <k1l> skinnay: https://launchpad.net/~formorer/+archive/ubuntu/icinga/+packages
[16:11] <skinnay> k1l oh I see now in package details it's the only one with an error, sorry nevermind then :) thanks
[16:12] <thisargumentisin> #ubuntu-offtopic Cannot join channel (+r) - you need to be identified with services <= what can i do?
[16:13] <k1l> !register | thisargumentisin
[16:29] <Ansari_> hello
[16:29] <Ansari_> can anyone see my message?
[16:30] <aragonem> Yes
[16:30] <Ansari_> helloo
[16:31] <Ansari_> helloo
[16:36] <ducasse> !ask | Ansari_
[16:37] <Ansari_> how can i use WIFI direct in ubuntu?
[16:38] <Dro> how can i remove the background noise of my internal microphone?
[16:41] <ThJ> what are people using for imap/exchange these days?
[16:43] <m1dnight_> Okay, so when I do apt-get autoremove it wants to install texlive
[16:43] <m1dnight_> I know that its broken, I just want to instantly wipe all of it.
[16:43] <m1dnight_> How can I do this?
[16:43] <arooni> so i have home fish installed; and i'd like to upgrade my version of fish from 2.2.0 to 2.3.1 (latest release);  how can i do this?
[16:45] <k1l> arooni: look for a PPA or other 3rd party repo
[16:46] <qswz> gosh I'd so much want to remove the top system toolbar
[16:46] <qswz> 1cm is a lot of space on my scrren
[16:47] <qswz> it's just a useless black bar
[16:47] <centaur5> My computer local admin user can see my printers I added but the ldap users I login with says there is no cups server connected but they can use the printers shared from another cups server.  How can I give my ldap users access to the localhost cups server?
[16:47] <qswz> with time, but i don't care of time
[16:47] <Oldcpv3> dood
[16:48] <Oldcpv3> you gotta listen
[16:48] <Oldcpv3> lol
[16:48] <k1l> qswz: use another desktop, i guess.
[16:48] <qswz> I'm not good at linux, that'll be hard
[16:50] <skinnay> qswx, all you do is install another DE, log out, select the DE at the login screen, then log in
[16:51] <qswz> hmm ok thanks if it's just that
[16:51] <PhishPhood> qswz: what DE are you not liking ?
[16:52] <qswz> unity
[16:52] <qswz> double system bars
[16:52] <qswz> on the left, on the top
[16:52] <qswz> I want none, well just one that auto-hide
[16:53] <qswz> 15" screen
[16:54] <PhishPhood> qswz: ah, OK. i moved to MATE myself :]
[16:54] <qswz> ok, will try it
[17:06] <dartf> I recovered a file with the photorec , but the same split it in several directories , how can I 're checking each directory and moving the file with the same extension for one location ?
[17:07] <dumle29> Any ideas why the openssl pacakge in the official ubuntu repos is 1.0.1g and not the newer t_
[17:07] <dumle29> ?
[17:07] <dumle29> all versions before t are vulnerable to a MITM attack
[17:08] <k1l> dumle29: due to depencies ubuntu doesnt change the version number with updates but recompiles with the patches included.
[17:08] <dumle29> ah cool
[17:08] <SonikkuAmerica> We probably offer a patched G
[17:08] <dartf> I recovered a file with the photorec , but the same files split it in several directories , how can I 're checking each directory and moving the file with the same extension for one location ?
[17:08] <dumle29> So CVE-2016-2107 is fixed in ubuntus g?
[17:08] <k1l> if you know the CVE you can look at ubuntu.com/usn
[17:08] <dumle29> will do
[17:09] <k1l> dumle29: spoiler: it is :)
[17:10] <holucon_> I'm on 16.04 server
[17:11] <dumle29> k1l: It's odd, because this site: https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/
[17:12] <dumle29> says our site is vulnurable to that CVE, but it shouldn't be when checking ubuntus usn
[17:14] <k1l> dumle29: "apt-cache policy openssl | nc termbin.com 9999"
[17:15] <k1l> dumle29: and some test-sites just check the openssl version, not if the security issue is fixed.
[17:15] <dartf> I recovered my files with photorec , entretando , all files are divided into several directories , how can I copy the " * .pdf " of all directories for a directory called " pdfs " ?
[17:16] <dumle29> k1l: http://termbin.com/zujw
[17:17] <k1l> dumle29: did you restart the webserver?
[17:17] <dumle29> No. I've not done any updates yet
[17:21] <dartf> find -name '*.pdf' -exec mv {} /home/backup/doc/ \; - done
[17:21] <dartf> thanks
[17:22] <qswz> note to self: never use Ubuntu software again, too slow
[17:22] <Rarrikins> dartf: -iname is usually preferable, since sometimes you might have .PDF instead of .pdf.
[17:22] <tgm4883> qswz: you joined just for that?
[17:22] <dartf> humm
[17:22] <dartf> Rarrikins: thanks
[17:23] <qswz> yes and I quit
[17:23] <tgm4883> ok
[17:23] <sammyg> hello
[17:23] <tgm4883> dumle29: wait, you haven't updated and you want to know why that site says you are still vulnerable?
[17:23] <dumle29> tgm4883: I just got access to the server
[17:24] <dumle29> tgm4883: It's the newest version (as you can see in the termbin above)
[17:24] <k1l> dumle29: if you didnt update and restarted the webserver the patch is not applied
[17:25] <tgm4883> dumle29: what is the output of "sudo grep 'libssl.*(deleted)' /proc/*/maps"
[17:26] <dumle29> I don't have root access yet. I just requested it
[17:26] <dumle29> It's a student arranged LAN event. It's as professional as we can do considering it's all a hobby
[17:28] <hsk3> Hey.
[17:29] <hsk3> If I install Ubuntu on my brand-new laptop that came with Windows, do I have to be careful not to erase existing Windows partitions? In case I want the bundled Windows later. The laptop didn't come with any Windows CD/DVD/USB stick.
[17:30] <sammyg> can someone help me connect to my wifi?
[17:30] <PCdude> hsk3:  yes you need to be careful, if done wrong u can remove the whole windows partition. U have to select somewhere in the installation screen to install it alongside windows and NOT erase the whole partition
[17:30] <sammyg> i can't connect at all
[17:30] <sammyg> something is wrong and i have no clue what
[17:30] <holucon_> Apparently I keep disconnecting.
[17:31] <silverfall> hsk3: you don't need to be careful, Ubuntu is noob friendly
[17:31] <_adb> hsk3: you can back the windows partition (or the entire disk) up with a tool like clonezilla or dd, but you'll need somewhere (like an external hard drive) to put it
[17:31] <hsk3> Ok thanks fellas
[17:31] <oceanDraft> You could install it alongside window like any other application
[17:32] <oceanDraft> And then uninstall without much hassle if anything goes wrong
[17:32] <siva_machina> silverfall: never dougt the level of human stupidity
[17:32] <Rarrikins> hsk3: Yes. First, back it up somewhere. Then, shrink the Windows partition (http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windows-vista/resize-a-partition-for-free-in-windows-vista/). Then, when you're installing, make sure to manually create two partitions: one swap the same size as your RAM and one ext4 with the rest of the space, mounted at /.
[17:32] <dartf> find . -type d -empty -exec rmdir {} \; = command ok?
[17:32] <silverfall> siva_machina: i suffer from the dunning kruger effect
[17:33] <z999> is chrome good?
[17:33] <_adb> dartf: looks ok. you could also replace \; with a + and be slightly more efficient if there are  a lot of them
[17:33] <Rarrikins> dartf: If the directories are ones you personally created, maybe.
[17:33] <Rarrikins> z999: If you have a 64-bit Ubuntu, sure.
[17:33] <MonkeyDust> z999  if you like it, then it's goo
[17:33] <hsk3> Rarrikins: if i create encrypted partition for ubuntu (during the installation), will that mess up my windows partition?
[17:33] <MonkeyDust> godd*
[17:33] <z999> i heard that chrome runs several processes and doesn't shut down
[17:33] <MonkeyDust> meh
[17:33] <dartf> Rarrikins: remove all empty folder
[17:33] <Rarrikins> hsk3: I'm not sure.
[17:33] <dartf> current directory
[17:34] <Rarrikins> dartf: Right, but it's not safe to do that in, say, /etc
[17:34] <sammyg> does ubuntu log the terminal commands? that would be handy right now... i issued a command and i don't know what it was so i have no idea how to reverse it, or what the heck it did... something to do with echo "something" | iwlwifi =8 something something
[17:34] <Rarrikins> dartf: It's only really safe to do it in a directory within, say, your home folder.
[17:34] <MonkeyDust> sammyg  type    history
[17:34] <z999> why thee are no updates for adobe flash in mozilla?
[17:34] <dartf> Rarrikins: photorec create 1220 folders
[17:34] <dartf> Rarrikins: kkk
[17:34] <silverfall> z999: flash is dead
[17:34] <Rarrikins> sammyg: Yes. `cat ~/.bash_history
[17:35] <z999> silverfall, when i go to xfinity it ask updated version of flash
[17:35] <Rarrikins> z999: Chrome (not Chromium, but Chrome) has the latest Flash.
[17:35]  * sammyg thanks MonkeyDust and Rarrikins
[17:36] <LTCD> Hey. I am using Linux Mint (I think problem will be same on Ubuntu). I installed MAT (metadata anonymisation toolkit) using Software Manager. Even when I use mat --version I get this error: http://pastebin.com/h7wYamjV
[17:37] <siva_machina> if you are useing 16.04 you can grab browser-plugin-freshplayer-pepperflash
[17:37] <sammyg> ok so here is the command now: echo "options iwlwifi 11n_disable=8"|sudo tee -a /etc/mobprobe.d/iwlwifi.conf
[17:37] <sammyg> how do i undo this?
[17:37] <sammyg> what does it do?
[17:37] <sammyg> it disables wireless n?
[17:38] <BasketCase> sammyg: it added that line to the file
[17:38] <BasketCase> (at the end)
[17:38] <sammyg> whatever it does, it did not help solve my connection problem
[17:38] <Rarrikins> sammyg: `sudo nano /etc/modprobe.d/iwlwifi.conf` then remove the line then press Ctrl+O, Ctrl+X
[17:38] <gerep> Hello good people! I'm trying to make Bucardo to auto-start in my machine. I have a script in /etc/init.d https://gist.github.com/gerep/23ae60d39e0bbd5d7918d2804bfd7c38 When I run it, it complains about Bucardo's permission to access the database: "DBI connect('dbname=bucardo','bucardo',...) failed: FATAL:  Peer authentication failed for user "buca
[17:38] <gerep> rdo"" When I start bucardo using its binary: bucardo start, it works. What am I missing here?
[17:39] <siva_machina> z999: uninstall flashplugin-installer and install browser-plugin-freshplayer-pepperflash. If you are Ubuntu 16.04
[17:39] <Antares> https://vk.com/rexant
[17:39] <siva_machina> z999: You should get the latest flash in Firefox this way.
[17:40] <skinnay> or better yet just leave it uninstalled
[17:40] <siva_machina> skinnay: agreed
[17:41] <siva_machina> I personally refuse to use it myself
[17:41] <siva_machina> but sadly some sites need it still
[17:43] <z999> i don't see pepperflash
[17:44] <siva_machina> put this into your terminal
[17:44] <siva_machina> apt search browser-plugin-freshplayer-pepperflash
[17:44] <k1l> z999: what ubuntu are you on exactly? "lsb_release -sd" will show it
[17:45] <z999> 16.04
[17:45] <sammyg> thank you Rarrikins
[17:45] <Rarrikins> sammyg: No problem.
[17:46] <sammyg> so can someone help me connect to the wifi? why is it not working?
[17:46] <siva_machina> z999 did you run the command I gave you?
[17:46] <sammyg> i installed ubuntu 16.04 yesterday on a new asus zenbook
[17:46] <sammyg> i can't connect to wifi for some reason
[17:48] <z999> yes
[17:48] <z999> it is there
[17:48] <FrenchT> hello :))
[17:48] <lenovo_> هلا
[17:48] <lenovo_> بيك
[17:48] <lenovo_> ^_^ i am new
[17:48] <z999> Full Text Search... Done
[17:48] <z999> browser-plugin-freshplayer-pepperflash/xenial 0.3.4-3 i386
[17:48] <z999>   PPAPI-host NPAPI-plugin adapter for pepperflash
[17:49] <siva_machina> sudo apt purge flashplugin-installer && sudo apt install browser-plugin-freshplayer-pepperflash
[17:49] <siva_machina> z999 that should help you
[17:49]  * FrenchT is new
[17:50]  * siva_machina is sorta new to this irc channel
[17:50] <sammyg> why is my laptop not connecting to my wifi?
[17:50] <sammyg> wlan
[17:51] <siva_machina> sammyg: not sure I do know there is a bug related to wifi in 16.04
[17:51] <FrenchT> have you drivers installed ?
[17:51] <sammyg> do i need a driver?
[17:51] <k1l> sammyg: some wifi chips need special treatment because the manufacturers dont ship drivers for linux. so that depends on what exact hardware that is.
[17:51] <FrenchT> maybe
[17:51] <siva_machina> or it could just be your drivers
[17:51] <k1l> sammyg: "lspci" will tell you what exact wifi chip that is. please run "lspci | nc termbin.com 9999" and shot the url here
[17:52] <sammyg> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23106898/
[17:52] <sammyg> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23106889/
[17:52] <sammyg> is this chip affected?
[17:53] <k1l> thta should work, iirc
[17:53] <siva_machina> z999: any luck so far?
[17:53] <sammyg> why is it not working then?
[17:54] <sammyg> i have no network cable and no network port
[17:54] <sammyg> i can't connect to internet without wifi
[17:54] <sammyg> not even to local network
[17:55] <sammyg> is iwlwifi the problem?
[17:55] <k1l> sammyg: no. to me it looks like it should work. doesnt it work with the network manager?
[17:56] <siva_machina> sammy: can you tether to the computer?
[17:56] <siva_machina> sammyg*
[17:56] <siva_machina> useing a phone and usb
[17:57] <heedly> Hi, how do I get all code points in unicode?
[17:57] <heedly> I installed unifont and moto but still see some missing
[17:57] <sammyg> k1l: by network manager you mean the gui thing where i can edit connection details?
[17:57] <k1l> sammyg: yes
[17:58] <sammyg> yeah, it works, i mean my wifi ap appears at the top in the status bar or whatever you call that
[17:59] <sammyg> but there is something odd about the network manager, it shows the password as blank
[17:59] <sammyg> even though i had typed it in previously
[17:59] <k1l> that is a security feature.
[18:01] <k1l> wait, in network-manager when editing the connection you should be able to clikc on "show password" for the security settings.
[18:01] <k1l> sammyg: what ubuntu is that exactly?
[18:02] <sammyg> so to sum it up, i can see "my-funny-wifi-ap" at the top of my screen, i can click it to connect, it asks for password or key, i type it in... and nothing... just sits there. then i click the wifi icon again, and i can see it in the list of wifi aps, and i don't have to click "more" to see it (since there are several wifi aps around here it makes it more accessible to me because i had entered
[18:02] <sammyg> the password once for this one), and if i click it i get a prompt for password again?... why? i did not select to prompt for password every time, i selected to save it for all users
[18:02] <sammyg> k1l: it's 16.04
[18:03] <k1l> sammyg: what desktop?
[18:03] <sammyg> desktop version yes
[18:03] <sammyg> oh you mean... yeah it's unity 7 i think
[18:03] <sammyg> the default
[18:04] <anonV> sup lizards
[18:04] <Rarrikins> anonV: Rarr!
[18:04] <anonV> lol
[18:04] <sammyg> k1l: ubuntu-16.04-desktop-amd64.iso
[18:04] <k1l> sammyg: click on the wifi icon, then choose "edit connections". then change the details of that wifi ap to your needs there
[18:05] <anonV> network connections on launcher
[18:07] <danny_> Best way to synch and backup to dropbox?
[18:07] <danny_> rclone looks promising but it isn't in the repos
[18:07] <siva_machina> sammyg your desktop is called Unity
[18:08] <k1l> danny_: teh dropbox client for nuatilus?
[18:09] <tdiesel> Hello
[18:09] <tdiesel> Hello
[18:09] <danny_> k1l, I want to sync and backup, I think that client only supports syncing.  Plus it seems resource heavy
[18:10] <sammyg> k1l: it's working! :D thank you!
[18:10] <blackbird1> Hi
[18:11] <z999> siva_machina, how do i remove the old one?
[18:11] <blackbird1> Please someone tell me what's wrong with this regex (email validation): ^([[:alpha:]]+[[:alnum:]\-._]*)@[[:alnum:]\-._]+\.[[:alpha:]]{2,4}$
[18:11] <tdiesel> hi blackbird1
[18:11] <danny_> k1l, meaning, I want to have these files synced across my devices yes.  But I also want a backup so that if I delete it on one of my computers it isn't gone everywhere
[18:11] <blackbird1> hi tdiesel
[18:12] <sammyg> k1l: but what was the problem? so when i want to connect to wifi i have to go to edit connections dialog? i can't just click on it, let it prompt me for password, i type it in and it works? doens't work like that in ubuntu?
[18:12] <z999> siva_machina, i installed pepperflash but the old flash is still recognized
[18:12] <sammyg> this seems like a bug to me...
[18:13] <Rarrikins> z999: Did you exit Firefox and restart it?
[18:13] <BluesKaj> sammyg, it should if you have the correct wifi driver installed
[18:13] <tdiesel> bb
[18:13] <blackbird1> same regex works in C++n but not in bash !!!
[18:13] <blackbird1> C++*
[18:13] <z999> Rarrikins, yes even rebooted puter
[18:13] <k1l> sammyg: seems like something went wrong when you first entered the password.
[18:13] <k1l> blackbird1: #bash might help you on that
[18:14] <Rarrikins> z999: What version does https://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/ think you have?
[18:14] <tdiesel> hi
[18:14] <blackbird1> k1l thanks
[18:14] <BluesKaj> sammyg, what's your mobile intenet controller with lspci in the terminal
[18:15] <z999> 11.2
[18:15] <siva_machina> z999 did you run the command I gave you?
[18:15] <z999> yes
[18:15] <siva_machina> restart firefox
[18:15] <sammyg> k1l: then it goes wrong like that every time i enter the password in the prompt
[18:15] <z999> i did several times
[18:16] <sammyg> k1l: i can repeat this, and it will behave the same each time
[18:16] <k1l> sammyg: did you relogin?
[18:16] <siva_machina> sudo apt purge flashplugin-installer && sudo apt install browser-plugin-freshplayer-pepperflash
[18:16] <siva_machina> you ran that right?
[18:16] <BluesKaj> sammyg, or wirteless network adapter
[18:16] <k1l> sammyg: do you have autologin enabled for that user?
[18:17] <hitch> hi
[18:17] <hitch> hello guys
[18:17] <k1l> sammyg: did you make the wifi "be used by every user" in the wifi settings?
[18:17] <tdiesel> ehm,Ihave a tablet with android and my internet stops. What do i do????
[18:17] <hitch> can you help ?
[18:17] <sammyg> k1l: no, i rebooted... before i used edit connection dialog, i went in there and deleted all saved wifi connections, then rebooted, then came back in, clicked on my wifi ap, entered password in the prompt, it failed to connect, then i wen in edit connections dialog and entered the same password again there
[18:17] <tdiesel> what???
[18:17] <k1l> tdiesel: ask the #android guys?
[18:18] <sammyg> it seems like it takes the password when i enter it in the edit conenctions dialog, but doesn't take it from the prompt
[18:18] <sammyg> k1l: yes, stored for all users on the computer
[18:18] <blackbird1> k1l, tdiesel Where I can found new designs for Impress ?
[18:18] <matumbo> Does Ubuntu 16.04 implement systemd user sessions? e.g. Is systemctl --user supposed to work?
[18:19] <k1l> blackbird1: the internet should be full of themes for impress.
[18:19] <anonV> Es mesmo matumbo!
[18:19] <k1l> blackbird1: they are called templates: http://templates.libreoffice.org/template-center
[18:19] <tdiesel> In your computer blackbird1
[18:20] <k1l> !ot | anonV tdiesel
[18:20] <tdiesel> bb guys
[18:20] <siva_machina> z999 you ran, sudo apt purge flashplugin-installer && sudo apt install browser-plugin-freshplayer-pepperflash right?
[18:21] <blackbird1> k1l, I looked there, there is no templates !
[18:21] <sammyg> k1l: i thank you for your help! but this looks like a bug to me, something to do with the gui and or unity, something along the line "ubuntu accepts wifi password entered in edit connection dialog but not in the password prompt for the same wifi ap"
[18:22] <z999> it tells me i need to update flash minimum is 11.8 to view xfinity
[18:22] <z999> yes siva
[18:22] <siva_machina> ffs
[18:23] <siva_machina> then run firefox -p in ther terminal
[18:23] <siva_machina> make another profile and see what happens
[18:24] <siva_machina> z999 then go to here in firefox about:addons and check your plugins
[18:24] <tdiesel> yes
[18:25] <tdiesel> hello
[18:25] <siva_machina> hello
[18:25] <tdiesel> how are you???
[18:25] <k1l> tdiesel: please keep this channel clear for ubuntu support. thanks
[18:26] <z999> shockwave 22 is there and also shockave 11.2
[18:26] <z999> when i disable one both disable and when i activate one both activate
[18:26] <BluesKaj> lighten up k1l , it was only 2 enties
[18:27] <jackson> I need some help.
[18:27] <k1l> BluesKaj: look at backlog :/
[18:27] <BluesKaj> jackson, just tell us your issue
[18:27] <Guest12760> Guest12760?
[18:27] <Guest12760> I mean really.
[18:27] <Guest12760> Anyway
[18:27] <Guest12760> I recently got an SD card, and I attempted to format it
[18:28] <Guest12760> During the process I removed the SD card because I thought it finished.
[18:28] <z999> when i disable one both disable and when i activate one both activate
[18:28] <Guest12760> ...Now it doesn't show up
[18:28] <tdiesel> ohh
[18:28] <z999> siva_machina, when i disable one both disable and when i activate one both activate
[18:29] <tdiesel> my SD card its not working
[18:29] <k1l> Guest12760: then format it again? with gparted?
[18:29] <Guest12760> Even when I do fdisk -l... it doesn't show SDB
[18:29] <Guest12760> I don't know how to format it again
[18:29] <Rarrikins> Guest12760: Try running `gnome-disks`, then insert it, select it on the left, click the gear icon in the middle, and do whatever.
[18:29] <k1l> Guest12760: can you show us "sudo parted -l" and "dmesg" after you put the sdcard in again?
[18:29] <Guest12760> Sure
[18:30] <elmoustacho> hello
[18:30] <tdiesel> hello
[18:30] <siva_machina> z999 run apt search flash and see if flashplugin-installer is installed and anyone that doesn't mention pepperflash
[18:31] <elmoustacho> I would like to know if "release upgrade" (instead of new fresh installation) is a reliable solution in enterprise ? thanks !
[18:31] <tdiesel> blackbird1
[18:31] <Guest12760> Oh, formatting with gnome-disks works
[18:31] <Guest12760> Nevermind
[18:31] <Guest12760> Thanks.
[18:31] <Rarrikins> Gnome Disks is very nice :)
[18:31] <Guest12760> But I find it somewhat offensive that all I am now is a Guest, with a number attached
[18:31] <Guest12760> Kinda makes me not human, eh?
[18:31] <Guest12760> Anyway
[18:31] <Guest12760> I'll go now
[18:32] <tdiesel> Anyway my SD card its working now
[18:32] <k1l> elmoustacho: why not. the upgrades do get automated testings and should work. ubuntu offers LTS to LTS upgrades.
[18:33] <matumbo> Sorry for asking this twice but seemed like it got lost in the flood. Does Ubuntu 16.04 implement systemd user sessions?
[18:33] <z999> siva_machina, several
[18:34] <siva_machina> take a screenshot please
[18:34] <siva_machina> if you need a place to upload it I suggest imgur
[18:34] <siva_machina> z999
[18:35] <siva_machina> or copy everything into pastebin
[18:35] <siva_machina> pastebin is a website
[18:35] <danny_> Is there an easy way to track how much power parts of my computer are using?
[18:36] <siva_machina> z999
[18:36] <k1l> danny_: powertop
[18:37] <Melandosis> Hello. Does anyone happen to know how to solve this problem? https://askubuntu.com/questions/794158/redshift-f-lux-not-working-on-ubuntu-16-04-with-intel-hd-graphics
[18:38] <z999> siva_machina, http://pastebin.com/tYw6bysd
[18:38] <danny_> k1l, perfect, I'll need to learn how to read it but its an ideal solution, thank you
[18:40] <purope> Hi, How do I allow a user to use sudo without having to type sudo?
[18:40] <siva_machina> sudo apt purge adobe-flash
[18:41] <Rarrikins> purope: You don't. What are you trying to accomplish?
[18:41] <purope> what
[18:41] <purope> I want to be able to use a script that is meant to be used by root, but instead with a non-root user
[18:42] <siva_machina> z999 sudo apt purge adobe-flashplugin
[18:42] <tomreyn> purope: so why do you want to run it as non-root user instead?
[18:43] <Bashing-om> Melandosis: I run ATI grapics. and a kernel upgrade did break redshit. I ' sudo apt install --reinstall redshift ' to reconfigure .. and it works .
[18:43] <z999> z999@Cassandra:~$ sudo apt purge adobe-flash
[18:43] <z999> [sudo] password for z999:
[18:43] <z999> Reading package lists... Done
[18:43] <z999> Building dependency tree
[18:43] <z999> Reading state information... Done
[18:43] <z999> E: Unable to locate package adobe-flash
[18:43] <tomreyn> !paste | z999
[18:44] <siva_machina> z999 yeah I typoed
[18:44] <siva_machina> sudo apt purge adobe-flashplugin
[18:44] <siva_machina> I meant that
[18:45] <z999> siva did it
[18:45] <z999> siva_machina, will try again
[18:45] <siva_machina> you ran it without the plugin part
[18:45] <Melandosis> Bashing-om: Unfortunately that didn't fix it, but thanks for the help. It looks like it is indeed kernel related however. https://github.com/jonls/redshift/issues/357
[18:45] <Melandosis> I guess I will just have to wait patiently for a fix.
[18:46] <Rarrikins> purope: https://serverfault.com/questions/184072/how-can-i-allow-all-users-to-run-a-given-command-via-sudo
[18:46] <Bashing-om> Melandosis: reading .
[18:46] <Rarrikins> purope: You can make it where all users can use sudo to run a script without needing a password.
[18:46] <Rarrikins> purope: Though, if you can put it into a compilable language and compile it, you can use setuid root instead.
[18:47] <Melandosis> Bashing-om, f.lux has the same problem.
[18:48] <Bashing-om> Melandosis: What results starting redshift in terminal ' redshift -l 35.458608:92.032814 -t 6000:5000 -b 0.8:0.6 ' . Where this is my location .
[18:49] <Melandosis> Bashing-om: It doesn't seem to do a thing. The colors aren't changed.
[18:50] <z999> siva_machina, video taking long time to load
[18:51] <siva_machina> z999, is firefox still saying you have 11 installed/
[18:51] <siva_machina> ?*
[18:52] <z999> no siva_machina but video is not loading
[18:52] <Stuttergart> curious if anyone knows the current state of dpkg package distribution via tools like apt-p2p?
[18:52] <tomreyn> Melandosis: according to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1617686/comments/47 this (?) issue is fixed by newer kernel versions
[18:52] <Stuttergart> I'm looking for a way to speed up infra deployments without having to deploy + manage large package depots in every environment.
[18:52] <siva_machina> z999, is firefox still saying you have 11 installed?
[18:53] <Snert_> will the latest ubuntu server install on an intel processor? The name seems to indicate and only.
[18:53] <Stuttergart> also, container-based pre-bake only gets you so far.
[18:53] <z999> siva_machina, no
[18:53] <Melandosis> tomreyn: Yes, it looks like it. I guess I'll have to wait for that version to arrive in Ubuntu.
[18:53] <Rarrikins> Snert_: Yes.
[18:53] <Bashing-om> Melandosis: :( .. Well. now above my skill level .
[18:53] <Rarrikins> Snert_: amd64 is for all x86-64 chips, despite the name.
[18:53] <Snert_> Rarrikins: thx. The name on it is amd64 so I was not sure.
[18:53] <Snert_> Ubuntu here I come!
[18:54] <Snert_> I love ubuntu
[18:54] <siva_machina> z999 then there is a high probablity xfinity is useing a stupid drm thing that prevent flash from loading without it. and I do not know how to get that to work with the newer flash
[18:54] <siva_machina> nor have I really ever cared enough to look into it
[18:54] <siva_machina> I do not use xfinity for cable
[18:54] <siva_machina> just internet
[18:55] <z999> siva ok thx anyway
[18:55] <Mersaul> Hello!
[18:55] <siva_machina> I have youtube and red...I mean Netflix for entertainment
[18:55] <siva_machina> z999 might want to try google chrome to see if you have better luck
[18:55] <Rarrikins> I hear Netflix is coming soon to Firefox.
[18:56] <z999> ok siva_machina
[18:57] <coolbrah33> Does anyone know a good installation guide for installing nvidia drivers on Ubuntu 14.04. I've tried adding the nvidia ppa but it breaks my OS every time
[18:58] <generic> coolbrah33 why not install the NVIDIA-drivers supplied from nvidia ?
[18:58] <ksft> coolbrah33: I'm having the same problem, I think
[18:59] <ksft> I upgraded to 16.04, and it didn't help
[18:59] <coolbrah33> I tried that, went on the website downloaded and installed them
[18:59] <generic> and ?
[18:59] <ksft> what exactly does it break?
[18:59] <coolbrah33> Didn't work
[18:59] <generic> installing or running ?
[18:59] <coolbrah33> Which is odd though because that's the way I did it originally
[18:59] <ksft> when I install the proprietary drivers, I can't log in the next time I start X
[18:59] <Melandosis> Bashing-om, tomreyn: Thanks for the help.
[19:00] <tomreyn> welcome :)
[19:00] <coolbrah33> I think it was both, it got these weird errors, il try it again though
[19:00] <generic> ksft: have you checked /var/log/Xorg.log ?
[19:00] <coolbrah33> Ksft do you get the log in loop?
[19:00] <ksft> generic: I've looked at it, but I don't know what I'm looking for.
[19:00] <ksft> coolbrah33: yes
[19:00] <coolbrah33> Have you looked up and tried the fixes?
[19:00] <generic> ksft: can you pastebin it ?
[19:00] <ksft> sure
[19:01] <ksft> er, actually, I probably can just give you a link from when I've done taht before
[19:01] <ksft> that*
[19:01] <coolbrah33> If you type in login loop Ubuntu in Google there should be a good guide on the first result
[19:01] <tomreyn> ksft: (E) is what you're looking for. and i don't mean pills.
[19:03] <ksft> eh, can't find it
[19:03] <ksft> I should go through what I did before to get the login loop thing before I look at the log, right?
[19:03] <ksft> coolbrah33: do you mean the permissions on the files in my home directory?
[19:03] <ksft> I've checked those
[19:04] <tomreyn> ksft sorry, actually "(EE)" , not just "(E)"
[19:09] <coolbrah33> ksft: ya that's what I meant
[19:09] <tomreyn> ksft: grep -hE '(Current Operating System|\(EE\))' /var/log/Xorg.* | uniq | grep -vF '(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.'
[19:10] <tomreyn> ...to check your past X server logs for errors
[19:10] <coolbrah33> generic: I downloaded the Graphics driver .run file, ran it with bash and I got error pre install failed, do you still want to continue?
[19:10] <coolbrah33> And I'm almost positive if I continue it will not work
[19:11] <generic> what does it say ?
[19:11] <ksft> tomreyn, generic: here's the output of that: http://termbin.com/mtud
[19:13] <coolbrah33> The error logs say nvidia-installer command line: ./nvidia-installer and than basically nothing
[19:17] <tomreyn> ksft: which hardware? lspci -knnv | fgrep VGA
[19:17] <ksft> it's a GTX 960M
[19:17] <tomreyn> oh i guess that would be supported ;)
[19:17] <ksft> that one only lists the Intel one
[19:17] <ksft> "Intel Corporation 4th Gen Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller"
[19:18] <ksft> because I have an integrated one too, which I forgot to mention
[19:18] <tomreyn> well most people have nowadays
[19:21] <tomreyn> ksft: is this >0 ? fgrep nomodeset /boot/grub/grub.cfg | fgrep -cv recovery
[19:21] <ksft> tomreyn: says 5
[19:22] <souravbadami> I'm not seeing the splash screen with ubuntu logo while booting. 16.04.1
[19:22] <tomreyn> ksft: so you use nomodeset as a default kernel option, whichmay or may not be okay, i'm not actually sure. but it's worth trying without.
[19:22] <generic> ksft: lot's of errors.. one of them says it's unable to find the nvidia-driver
[19:23] <tomreyn> in the past i think you needed to disable kernel mode setting to make the proprietary drivers work. but i think nowadays that's no longer so.
[19:23] <tomreyn> (and may actually be vice versa)
[19:23] <generic> how do i stop the xdm in ubuntu ?
[19:24] <ksft> generic: I think that's because I got rid of it because I couldn't log in with it installed
[19:24] <ksft> tomreyn: how do I turn that off?
[19:25] <varaindemian> do I need to add sudo add-apt-repository ppa:openjdk-r/ppa in order to install opnejdk 8?
[19:26] <varaindemian> more precisely I am refering to openjdk-8-jdk package
[19:27] <Bray90820> I am trying to install ubuntu 16.04 an intel Atom Z3735F i can load grub but then when i click try ubuntu without installing i get a black screen
[19:27] <Bray90820> I already tried nomodeset
[19:28] <tomreyn> ksft: got any output here? grep -ri nomodeset /etc/grub.d/ | grep -Fv GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_RECOVERY
[19:29] <tomreyn> ksft: also have you tried to run nvidia-xconfig to (hopeffully) generate a working /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[19:30] <Karlangas> Hello!
[19:31] <tomreyn> hello, and hello again
[19:31] <Bashing-om> Bray90820: Maybe : i915.i915_enable_rc6=1 <- works see:https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/PowerManagement/PowerSavingTweaks .
[19:32] <Karlangas> So, what is going on, today?
[19:32] <Bray90820> Bashing-om: I am thinking it has to do with the kernel version
[19:33] <Bray90820> Because I was able to get a version of 14..04 booted
[19:33] <Karlangas> I am on kernel 4.4 and it fucked with Elementary OS repos. Wifi stopped working so, I went back to Ubuntu GNOME
[19:35] <tomreyn> ksft: a somewhat more likely location you'll find nomodeset option (and where it can be removed for testing purposes) is /etc/default/grub
[19:35] <tomreyn> you'd need to run update-grub afterwards
[19:40] <Karlangas> Hello!
[19:40] <eodnhoj> Hello everyone.
[19:40] <thinky> hi there
[19:41] <mypainter> hi!
[19:41] <thinky> i dont know why my cpu is getting too hot
[19:41] <thinky> it was around 57-58 but today it jumps to 76-78c
[19:41] <Bashing-om> Bray90820: Show us what we are wirking with ; - lspci -k | grep -EA2 'VGA|3D' - in a pastebin please .
[19:42] <thinky> how can i look for cpu usage and temp in ubuntu 16.04?
[19:43] <Bashing-om> thinky: Cleaned the box lately ?
[19:43] <eodnhoj> thinky: use top to monitor process.
[19:43] <thinky> what box Bashing-om ?
[19:44] <thinky> eodnhoj: what is top monitor process ?
[19:44] <ksft> tomreyn: no output from that first command
[19:44] <ksft> "nvidia-xconfig: command not found"
[19:45] <eodnhoj> thinky: it displays linux tasks. Type man top
[19:45] <Bashing-om> thinky: The box is your system enclosure . I must clean my nachine on a regular basis due to overheating issues .
[19:45] <thinky> u mean the fan?
[19:45] <thinky> fan is pretty new yet
[19:45] <thinky> i replaced it last week
[19:45] <thinky> 2 weeks ago lets say
[19:46] <thinky> eodnhoj: type man top in terminal?
[19:46] <Bashing-om> thinky: Yeah, and the air ducts, blow the dust off the graphic's card :)
[19:46] <eodnhoj> thinky: correct. "man top"
[19:48] <eodnhoj> thinky: Just use TSHOOT methodology. =)
[19:49] <thinky> ook eodnhoj i will check it later
[19:49] <eodnhoj> Does any one know of a channel that for analytics?
[19:49] <thinky> another thing is i upgraded kernet from 4.4.0.34.36 to 4.4.0.36.38 but it still shows old one when i check kernel version
[19:50] <eodnhoj> that's*
[19:50] <tertu|pocket> so i've been having some networking trouble
[19:51] <Bray90820> Bashing-om: All I can boot to is a grub console so will the code work there
[19:51] <tertu|pocket> i can manage to connect to my university's wireless network but that's about it, DNS lookup does not seem to work
[19:51] <Bashing-om> !info linux-image-generic
[19:52] <eodnhoj> tertu|pocket: try ping -c4 8.8.8.8
[19:52] <tertu|pocket> doesn't work
[19:52] <SonikkuAmerica> Is linux-meta the replacement package for the linux package now?
[19:52] <eodnhoj> Its not a dns issue.
[19:52] <tertu|pocket> alright
[19:53] <eodnhoj> How are you on irc right now? Different pc?
[19:53] <Bashing-om> Bray90820: Yeah .. I would substitute "quiet splash" in the boot line . will not hurt to try and see .
[19:53] <tertu|pocket> phone already connected to the same network
[19:53] <eodnhoj> ahh. well played. Are you getting and IP address?
[19:54] <tertu|pocket> i have an IP address and Dolphin's network: viewer is showing me ofher
[19:54] <tertu|pocket> machines which i know exist
[19:54] <Snert_> Which VNC is best - I have ubuntu, latest. I DO NOT want that little gray VNC box that looks weird. I'm after a full desktop upon login.
[19:55] <Snert_> so is that tightvnc - is there an ubunti package for that?
[19:55] <Bray90820> Bashing-om: So I should put "; - lspci -k | grep -EA2 'VGA|3D'" in place of quit splash?
[19:55] <Bashing-om> Bray90820: Wait, think I have my wires crossed .. i915.i915_enable_rc6=1 as the boot parameter to boot to GUI .
[19:56] <eodnhoj> open shell and do ifconfig, confirm ip address. After type route -n to get your gateway device.
[19:56] <Bray90820> Bashing-om: So I should put that code in place of quit splash?
[19:56] <eodnhoj> tertu|pocket: ping your gateway device.
[19:57] <tertu|pocket> huh
[19:57] <Bashing-om> Bray90820: Try : i915.i915_enable_rc6=1 . ctl+x then to continue the boot process .
[19:57] <eodnhoj> tertu
[19:57] <eodnhoj> oops
[19:57] <eodnhoj> tertu|pocket: route -n
[19:57] <tertu|pocket> i cannot ping my gateway
[19:57] <Bray90820> Bashing-om: my grub has "quit splash ---" should I remove the dashes as well or not?
[19:57] <eodnhoj> do you have a static IP?
[19:58] <tertu|pocket> no
[19:59] <tertu|pocket> so would this be a symptom of misconfigured peap perhaps?
[19:59] <tertu|pocket> or would that just result in me not being able to connect at all
[19:59] <eodnhoj> tertu
[19:59] <Bashing-om> Bray90820: Well .. easier to work this from the grub boot menu . at the menu 'e' key for edit mode . arrow down to the linux boot line and make the edit .
[20:00] <eodnhoj> not sure where you are getting your IP address from. It would be either static or from a remote dhcp server
[20:00] <tertu|pocket> it should be dhcp i think
[20:01] <Bray90820> Bashing-om: Yes I know that that's what I planned on doing but you said replace quit splash with that code I just don't know if I should remove the dashes after it as well
[20:01] <eodnhoj> Then you should be able to ping your gateway device. Unless the school is using something line MACSec
[20:01] <eodnhoj> like*
[20:01] <eodnhoj> But you wouldn't get an IP in that case.
[20:02] <alphazulu_> anyone have luck using the libpdf plugin in FF?  after I install and activate/allow it, all it shows are blank pages with the text "Hello"
[20:02] <eodnhoj> tertu|pocket: cat /etc/resolv.conf
[20:02] <eodnhoj> tertu|pocket: is there a name server defined?
[20:02] <tertu|pocket> localhost
[20:03] <tertu|pocket> rather the loopback address
[20:03] <eodnhoj> so dns will not work.
[20:03] <tertu|pocket> there's a search entry but i don't know what that means exactly
[20:03] <eodnhoj> try resetting the interface
[20:03] <eodnhoj> sudo
[20:05] <tertu|pocket> will ip link set down/up work or do i need to do more
[20:05] <eodnhoj> running ubuntu?
[20:05] <tertu|pocket> yeah
[20:06] <tertu|pocket> i was running arch previously, had very similar problems but worse
[20:06] <tertu|pocket> i think i got a working network connection about once
[20:07] <eodnhoj> sudo ifdown eth0 && sudo ifup eth0
[20:07] <souravbadami> I'm not seeing the splash screen with ubuntu logo while booting. 16.04.1
[20:07] <souravbadami> It's purple and then the login screen appears.
[20:07] <eodnhoj> or which ever your interface is =/
[20:07] <SWAT> I've installed 16.04.1 and apparantly my ATI cards works fine (with radeon module), but the Intel card doesn't at all. The Intel card gives a black screen only, but exists (since my mouse can move there and it's visible in xrandr). Any advice?
[20:08] <tertu|pocket> uh, ifdown and ifup don't recognize my interface
[20:08] <Bashing-om> Bray90820: In the kernel boot line " linux /boot/vmlinuz-3.2.0-24-generic root=UUID=dbd69ed2-530c-4409-8f5a-a3f1ea41fc67 ro quiet splash $vt_handoff " there are no dashes .
[20:08] <genii> tertu|pocket: interfaces may be named exotic unique names now. Use the one it shows from the ifconfig command
[20:08] <tertu|pocket> yeah
[20:09] <eodnhoj> tertu
[20:09] <lee2> exit
[20:09] <eodnhoj> tertu|pocket: will be a wlan interface also
[20:09] <tertu|pocket> i am, it's called wlp2s0 and it doesn't seem to recognize it
[20:09] <eodnhoj> tertu|pocket: sudo ifdown wlp2s0?
[20:10] <tertu|pocket> the only interface in /etc/network/interfaces seems to be lo
[20:10] <eodnhoj> I wonder if a module issue =\
[20:11] <tertu|pocket> could be
[20:11] <tertu|pocket> this machine has an ath10k wireless chipset and my understanding is that support for it is relatively new
[20:12] <varaindemian> how do I find out what apps used the swap?
[20:13] <varaindemian> I have 40k used
[20:16] <tertu|pocket> thanks for your help, i'll keep looking into this.
[20:16] <DANtheBEASTman> what package provides column? it's not in coreutils i have that installed
[20:17] <trism> DANtheBEASTman: bsdmainutils
[20:18] <varaindemian> anyone?
[20:18] <DANtheBEASTman> trism: thanks!
[20:20] <th0r> varaindemian, http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-which-process-is-using-swap/
[20:21] <hasselmm> is that low precision of the ubuntu geoip server intentional?
[20:22] <hasselmm> it only gives integers for latitude and longitude, which isn't very precise
[20:22] <Pici> hasselmm: geoip is not high precision to begin with.
[20:23] <sammyg> so i'm told that 1 pound sign in irc channel names means official channel, and 2 pound signs mean non official
[20:23] <ksft> sammyg: where did you get that information?
[20:23] <sammyg> since "#ubuntu" only has 1, then it's official?
[20:23] <Pici> sammyg: as I said, yes.
[20:23] <ksft> sammyg: This is an official channel, according to the topic, but as far as I know, that is not what that means.
[20:24] <Pici> Its a discussion for #freenode, not for #ubuntu.
[20:25] <hasselmm> Pici: sure, but usually one would expect city accuracy instead of something that's many 100 km off
[20:25] <sammyg> Pici: but what does that tell me? what does it mean to be official channel? how does it relate to freenode?
[20:26] <sammyg> Pici: is that like a verified page on facebook?
[20:26] <Pici> sammyg: you're on irc.freenode.net, they make the rules as to what official means.  #ubuntu itself is run by the Ubuntu IRC council, which was appointed by the Ubuntu Commuinity Council which was appointed by Mark Shuttleworth.
[20:27] <Pici> hasselmm: What exactly are you looking at to get that information. I wasn't actually aware that Ubuntu ran any geoip server.
[20:27] <skinnay> sammyg: Chan­nels on freen­ode fall into one of two cat­e­gories. Pri­ma­ry chan­nels, which be­gin with a sin­gle # char­ac­ter, are re­served for on-­topic projects. If you’d like to take over one of these chan­nels, then you’ll need to be as­so­ci­at­ed in some way with the project in ques­tion. Top­i­cal, or ‘about’ chan­nels, be­gin with two # char­ac­ters, and these are al­lo­cat­ed on a first-­come, first-served
[20:27] <skinnay> https://freenode.net/policies
[20:27] <trism> hasselmm: geoip.ubuntu.com/lookup isn't giving me integers for long/lat
[20:28] <Pici> hasselmm, trism: also they're likely using the maxmind databse, as thats what its output looks like normally.
[20:30] <hasselmm> Pici: looked at output of http://geoip.ubuntu.com/lookup
[20:30] <Bray90820> Bashing-om: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/33402675/IMAG0052.jpg
[20:30] <hasselmm> trims, pici: that's what i get from the ubuntu server: http://hastebin.com/unumarozah.xml
[20:31] <sammyg> skinnay: thank you!
[20:31] <Pici> hasselmm: must just be for your location then. I see non-integers for my IP
[20:32] <Bashing-om> hasselmm: Maybe better info : http://www.findlatitudeandlongitude.com/ ?
[20:32] <hasselmm> Pici: somehow i wonder if decimal point parsing fails somewhere under the hood
[20:32] <Bashing-om> Bray90820: look'n at your https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/33402675/IMAG0052.jpg .
[20:33] <hasselmm> like reading/importing a text file/database with german decimal point separator (comma, instead of dot)
[20:33] <Pici> hasselmm: I doubt it. I don't feel like pasting my location, but I'm getting 4 digits past the decimal point here.
[20:33] <Pici> hasselmm: its a database, it doesn't do a real-time lookup with your ISP.
[20:33] <hasselmm> Pici: sure, but that database must be feed somehow
[20:34] <hasselmm> Pici: honestly wouldn't be surpised if someone feed that database with a bad text file
[20:34] <Bashing-om> Bray90820: That looks to be the liveDVD, are you not trying to boot an installed system ?
[20:35] <hasselmm> just happens way too often
[20:35] <Bray90820> Bashing-om: I can't boot the live USB to be able to install ubuntu
[20:35] <Pici> hasselmm: yes, like I said, it looks like the maxmind databse file. See the geoip-database package and https://www.maxmind.com/en/home
[20:37] <Bashing-om> Bray90820: Booting the liveUSB is a horse of another color . Did yoy verify the copy ' check disk for defects ' at the boot options menu ? As a place to start .
[20:37] <hasselmm> pici: maxmind gives good numbers, it's just 10 km away from my real location
[20:37] <hasselmm> which is quite okay for geoip
[20:38] <Pici> hasselmm: they provide multiple databases, its possible that the one that Ubuntu is using doesn't have exact numbers for your IP.
[20:38] <Bray90820> Bashing-om: Check disk for defects also gives me a black screen
[20:39] <Bashing-om> Bray90820: Then we back up to verify the md5sum of the .iso file before going any further .
[20:40] <greengold> Can anyone help with an issue stemming from a screwed-up precise->trusty upgrade? The box is half-working and I don't want to do a reinstall unless absolutely necessary.
[20:40] <Bray90820> I have never actually varied an MD%5 so How would I go about doing that
[20:41] <Bray90820> *MD5
[20:42] <Bashing-om> !md5sum | Bray90820
[20:43] <zoli> hi. i have an AMD kaveri apu 7850k, but the the most recent ubunt lts (xenial) i have black sreen, and only can start system with nomodeset kernel option. But this way i dont have 3D acceleration. Can you tell me how could i start the system succcessfully without nomodeset?
[20:45] <saytek> bonjour
[20:47] <adrian_1908> hello. I wanted to install wine and noticed that i has tons of i386 dependencies (~734 MB total size). Is this necessary to support most programs, or is there a version without these that I may prefer?
[20:48] <k1l> adrian_1908: welcome to the wine world :)
[20:49] <adrian_1908> k1l: so that's the default and likely necessary I take it? :)
[20:49] <k1l> adrian_1908: yes. iirc there are 2 big players that depend on a lot of 32bit stuff: wine and steam.
[20:50] <k1l> which is no wonder if you compare the distribution of windows and linux with 64bit base OS.
[20:50] <adrian_1908> k1l: I see. I'll go ahead then and install the normal package. Thanks for the information.
[20:55] <remo> anyone here familiar with the tp-link T2UH
[20:57] <greengold> Looking for help to repair an interrupted precise->trusty upgrade. Login screen comes up OK; I can login to a GNOME desktop OK, but if I try to login to an Ubuntu desktop, I end up with a black screen and a movable mouse pointer.
[20:58] <murphy> i installed the Tp-link drivers and the light flashes but it doesnt seem to have installed it to show up in my wifi manager
[20:58] <murphy> i also tried https://github.com/hadess/rtl8723bs
[21:00] <jeffrey_f> Does anyone know of a prebuilt/turnkey Ubuntu (or other) PXE server distribution??
[21:05] <Bashing-om> greengold: Try ' sudo stop lightdm ; sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm ; sudo dpkg-reconfigure unity-greeter ; sudo service lightdm start ' .
[21:06] <greengold> Bashing-om: Will do.
[21:07] <Bashing-om> greengold: This should set lightdm - rather than gdm - as the default .
[21:07] <anew> i cant find a 32bit download link for ubuntu?
[21:07] <k1l> anew: why 32bit? is your cpu a 32bit only one?
[21:07] <anew> all i see is the torent download... is there a internet download
[21:07] <anew> yes i need it for my cpu
[21:08] <k1l> are you sure its 32bit?
[21:08] <anew> yes
[21:08] <k1l> anew: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/alternative-downloads
[21:09] <anew> i only see the torrent links there
[21:09] <Bashing-om> Bray90820: How ya look'n ? Long time no hear .
[21:09] <anew> where is the html download
[21:09] <k1l> anew: click on the mirror for the nearest country
[21:09] <Bray90820> Bashing-om: no idea what I'm doing
[21:09] <greengold> Bashing-om: I selected "lightdm" as the default when reconfiguring lightdm. The same symptoms are persisting. I think the greeter is working OK -- it's something about trying to launch the desktop post-login.
[21:09] <Bray90820> Bashing-om: I'm just walking around like a blind monkey at this point
[21:09] <anew> k1l, http://ubuntu.cica.es/releases/ but how do i knwo which one is 32 bit
[21:09] <k1l> anew: under "other images"
[21:10] <k1l> anew: click on the ubuntu release you want. then look at the naming of the .iso file
[21:10] <nani3> hello all
[21:11] <anew> http://www.mirrorservice.org/sites/cdimage.ubuntu.com/cdimage/releases/14.04.5/release/
[21:11] <anew> nothing in here says 32
[21:11]  * k1l wonders why cica.es got still 15.04 on their servers...
[21:11] <nani3> is this a good place to get support for ubuntu?
[21:11] <nani3> or is this just a general chat type room?
[21:11] <sammyg> Where should the boot loader be installed on an EFI system with GPT disk? On /sda or on /sda1? What's the difference? The sda1 is the first partition and this is the EFI system partition. The system will be dual booting with Windows 10.
[21:11] <k1l> anew: that mirror doesnt have 32bit
[21:11] <anew> http://mirror.pnl.gov/releases/14.04.5/
[21:11] <anew> does this one?
[21:12] <sankar> Hello
[21:12] <k1l> anew: yes. click on the i386 ido that you want
[21:13] <ad2f24c2> I've installed new HWE stack (pack of Xserver and kernel from 16.04) from 16.04 to my 14.04, and have no transparency in dash/launcher. How to fix that?
[21:15] <Bashing-om> Bray90820: We are here to help. where are you stuck ?
[21:15] <Bray90820> I have absolutely no idea where to even start with checking the MD5
[21:16] <sankar> Hey, can some one point me right article's to nderstand RSA keys. I am so confused
[21:16] <Bashing-om> Bray90820: What is the present operating system you have access to ?
[21:16] <sankar> please and thanks
[21:17] <Bray90820> Windows 10 and OS X
[21:17] <Bray90820> Bashing-om: I should note that this is the iso I used
[21:17] <Bray90820> http://linuxiumcomau.blogspot.com.au/2016/08/running-latest-ubuntu-on-intel-compute.html
[21:18] <Bashing-om> Bray90820: Windows' tutorial: http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows .
[21:18] <ad2f24c2> why there is no transparency in dash/launcher?
[21:19] <k1l> ad2f24c2: what video card? what driver in use?
[21:19] <Bray90820> Bashing-om: Where do I find the MD5 file tho
[21:19] <sezer> Hi!!!
[21:19] <ad2f24c2> all is _ok_ with driver and video card. if i am running 14.04 with 3.16 kernel and trusty xserver
[21:20] <sezer> anybody here? :)
[21:20] <ad2f24c2> but if i am running 4.4 kernel and xorg from 16.04 (this is called HWE stack in ubuntu), i have no transparency
[21:20] <ad2f24c2> opengl apps, though are running ok
 ad2f24c2: what video card? what driver in use?
[21:21] <ad2f24c2> it doesnt matter. radeon/radeon
[21:21] <ad2f24c2> driver is ok. problem is in HWE
[21:22] <JeanSprouts> Hi, I just paired some bluetooth headphones, but they skip/lag A LOT. Any suggestions? Ubuntu 16.04 w/ JBL Reflect Mini BT headphones
[21:22] <k1l> ad2f24c2: it does matter. since the issue with unity sounds like an issue with the 3d part of the video driver and in 3.16 with matching xorg and 4.4 kernel from 16.04 with the changed system from amd regarding radeon, fglrx and amd_gpu that is a very important part of information.
[21:23] <Bashing-om> Bray90820: and, you are attempting to install onto a Intel Compute Stick ? where the image file is patched thus we will have to see what the author has for the verification .
[21:23] <k1l> ad2f24c2: but good luck with your issue.
[21:24] <Bray90820> Actually I am using it on a nextbook flexx but it has the same processor
[21:25] <FoeHammered> Can somebody recommend me a CD ripper to move my music collection from CD to digital? I don't seem to remember what I used to use, and what I've found isn't working well.
[21:29] <orangemeal> hello?
[21:29] <nani3> how do I troubleshoot xorg issues? Mine crashed last night
[21:29] <k1l> nani3: look at .xsession-errors in the users home or in xorg.log in /var/log/
[21:30] <Bashing-om> Bray90820: Hummm ... " Also the ISOs only work on Intel Compute Sticks but they can be used with any model (STCK1A8LFC, STCK1A32WFC, STK1AW32SC, STK1A32SC, STK2M3W64CC, STK2M364CC and STK2MV64CC). " .
[21:31] <Bray90820> I'm thinking that event my tablet has the same processor that the ISO might not be compatible with my system
[21:31] <Bray90820> *eventhough
[21:32] <nani3> k1l: is this helpful? https://paste.ubuntu.com/23109150/
[21:32] <clifford_> I'm having a problem with 16.04 where Ubuntu is locking up for around 5 minutes after startup with tracker consuming 100% CPU. Been using since 12.04 and never came across this before. Recently split root to an ssd and changed CPU from i3 to amd
[21:32] <Bashing-om> Bray90820: Nothing wrong with trying . but we must verify this .iso file . No point if the foundation is not firm .
[21:33] <k1l> Bray90820: most times for that tablets/sticks you need special isos or a spcial treatment with changing stuff. so i suggest you look around if someone got ubuntu running on that device who got some more experience on that topic
[21:33] <FoeHammered> Never mind, I used to use Sound Juicer, that's right.
[21:33] <FoeHammered> Thanks, adios.
[21:33] <Bray90820> Bashing-om: So where should we go fro here
[21:33] <anelito> hi everyone
[21:33] <k1l> nani3: i dont see an error there
[21:34] <anelito> I need help with a special configuration for ubuntu 12.4
[21:34] <anelito> I am following https://mightycomputers.wordpress.com/2012/09/10/recently-i-foun/ which aims at setting up multiple tor daemons with privoxy and a unique squid instance as a sort of multiplexer
[21:34] <nani3> k1l: here is what I have in there not sure which log it is https://paste.ubuntu.com/23109156/
[21:35] <anelito> however, any wget/traceroute says there's no connection. How to debug it?
[21:35] <anelito> thanks
[21:36] <Bashing-om> Bray90820: Not looking too good yet for your install: http://linuxiumcomau.blogspot.com/ . Stoll looking for a means to check that download .
[21:36] <Bashing-om> still*
[21:38] <Bray90820> Bashing-om: Do you think the official ISO would work better?
[21:38] <anelito> anyone?
[21:39] <Bray90820> My issue with the official iso tho is that my system runs UEFI and I haven't been able to boot the official ISO in UEFi mode
[21:39] <Bray90820> if I'm even saying that correctly
[21:39] <k1l> Bray90820: let me guess: 32bit uefi?
[21:40] <Bray90820> k1l: Correct
[21:40] <k1l> that is a known issue on windows tablets/sticks. you need to modify the iso to run that 32bit uefi.
[21:41] <Bray90820> k1l: any idea on how I would modify it?
[21:41] <k1l> look at the howtos for running linux on your device.
[21:42] <k1l> nani3: you need to find the one with the crash in it.
[21:42] <ad2f24c2> k1l=read the docs somewhere on the internets
[21:43] <Bashing-om> Bray90820: Got me .. the 'buntu installer fully supports UEFI .
[21:43] <Bray90820> Bashing-om: Sorry what do you mean?
[21:44] <k1l> ad2f24c2: is this all what you want to contribute to this channel? tell supporters that you know everything and get sulky if one requests more informations? and afterwards make snarky comments?
[21:45] <k1l> Bray90820: is this the hardware? https://github.com/burzumishi/linux-baytrail-flexx10
[21:47] <Bray90820> k1l: Yes It is
[21:47] <k1l> then try that howto
[21:49] <skypce> hey guys , https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8BXTOusl5b6RmtwUGtvOGkyYjg  the liquorix kernel 4.6 run with nvidia-370 drivers very good
[21:49] <skypce> i am testing it now in my machine
[21:49] <Bray90820> k1l: I might be totally not right here but could I also take a working version of 14.04 and modify 16.04 with some parts of the 14.04 iso?
[21:49] <skypce> a question
[21:50] <k1l> Bray90820: yes, that old and crappy 32bit uefi part is needed
[21:50] <skypce> do you know some way to run multi core wine stagging?
[21:51] <Bray90820> So now the next question is do you think I should start with the github tutorial or use the 14.04 to modify 16.04?
[21:51] <Bray90820> k1l:
[21:52] <aubergine> hi everyone, is there anyone experienced with tor and privoxy?
[21:53] <k1l> Bray90820: https://sturmflut.github.io/linux/ubuntu/2015/01/21/installing-ubuntu-15.04-on-baytrail-tablets/  see if that works on modifying the 16.04
[21:53] <k1l> aubergine: i would ask the tor guys directly.
[21:54] <aubergine> k1l because I need help setting up a kind of Tor transparent proxy on an Ubuntu VPS
[21:54] <aubergine> k1l should I ask on #tor then?
[21:55] <OerHeks> tor and proxy, isn't that a contradiction?
[21:55] <k1l> aubergine: i dont get if that is an tor issue or a "that works on every linux but on ubuntu" issue. but the tor guys might have more experience in setting up that software, and that special setup of that software
[21:57] <custservice> Trump
[21:57] <aubergine> k1l just for you to know, I am following this guide https://mightycomputers.wordpress.com/2012/09/10/recently-i-foun/ but I am stuck since any wget/curl is somehow blocked
[21:57] <orangemeal> Hello! I am trying to set up Ubuntu on my acer chromebook 14. I tried booting from a usb that has a ubuntu-14.04.2-desktop-amd64.iso file on it via seabios -- but I think my machine doesn't have seabios. If I follow a guide I can provide the link to, I can install KDE beside chrome OS, but I can't seem to do it with Ubuntu. Can someone suggest how I can set it up through a method like this?: https://www.linux.com/learn/how-easily-i
[21:58] <aubergine> OerHeks why? Basically using privoxy and squid you can shrink possible tracking headers (like UserAgent) and, at the same time, avoid ads and malware
[21:58] <custservice> orangemeal: maybe you need 32bit
[21:59] <sammyg> orangemeal:  "Oops! Seems like this page doesn’t exist."
[21:59] <orangemeal> When I tried doing Ctrl + L after entering a few commands into the terminal, it beeped twice each time I did it.
[22:00] <orangemeal> https://www.linux.com/learn/how-easily-install-ubuntu-chromebook-crouton%20
[22:00] <orangemeal> that should exist
[22:01] <custservice> orangemeal: are you sure its 64bit you need?
[22:02] <orangemeal> Let me find out if this chromebook is 32 or 64. Does it seem like I would get those two beeps if I tried booting from an iso file that wasn't compatible?
[22:02] <custservice> orangemeal: most arm processors are 32bit
[22:03] <k1l> orangemeal: look what cpu it is. if its a x86 or arm one. they need different isos
[22:04] <custservice> k1l: yes chromebooks use various CPU tyoes
[22:04] <k1l> there are several different chromebooks with different cpus.
[22:04] <custservice> types
[22:04] <orangemeal> Intel Celeron N3160 / 1.6 GHz
[22:04] <orangemeal> is what mine is
[22:04] <sammyg> custservice: why did you just send private message and called me a dumb busterd?
[22:06] <orangemeal> This is a 64 bit machine!
[22:06] <orangemeal> So I must have the right iso...
[22:09] <tomreyn> http://acer--uk.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/27071/~/how-to-enable-or-disable-secure-boot
[22:10] <tomreyn> you might want to start with this
[22:10] <z3r0x_> Hey guys my tor web-browser doesn’t works.Do you now how I can fix it?
[22:11] <tomreyn> z3r0x_: not without more information. start by explaining what a "tor web browser" is, how you installed it, and what does not work or how you detect that it does not work as it should.
[22:12] <z3r0x_> Ok sry man
[22:13] <aubergine> hey guys, I have another question
[22:13] <z3r0x_> The part with the downloading and installing process doesn’t works
[22:14] <aubergine> is there a way to perform full disk encryption on a VM on the cloud?
[22:14] <YankDownUnder> z3r0x_: If you're downloading the package from Tor - the pre-built package, it's actually rather a simple process...what appears to be the problem?
[22:15] <z3r0x_> It doesn’t start the download process :(
[22:15] <tomreyn> aubergine: sure, you just enable it while installing. to decrypt it later, you will need 'remote console' , 'serial console', 'kvm' access or similar.
[22:15] <z3r0x_> I dont now why
[22:15] <k1l> z3r0x_: on the tor website? with what browser?
[22:15] <YankDownUnder> z3r0x_: What browser are you using to download the package?
[22:15] <Exterminador> guys, do you provide apache help? :X
[22:15] <zenguy> hmm some packages have been kept back ie: linux-generic
[22:15] <YankDownUnder> Exterminador: That would be #apache
[22:16] <zenguy> how do i install them
[22:16] <zenguy> ?
[22:16] <k1l> zenguy: "sudo apt full-upgrade"
[22:16] <zenguy> thanks k1l :)
[22:16] <aubergine> tomreyn I cannot as I am using a cloud provider that just allows me to log in SSH
[22:16] <Exterminador> YankDownUnder: i've supposed that.. but i've got redirected to httpd
[22:16] <Exterminador> :/
[22:16] <mjz19910> Sorry, it is sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[22:16] <k1l> aubergine: that doesnt work on cloud storage
[22:16] <tomreyn> aubergine: find a different provider or offer then
[22:16] <k1l> mjz19910: ubuntu shipps the new apt command
[22:17] <z3r0x_> I have downloaded it trough the the software center
[22:17] <zenguy> i like apt
[22:17] <YankDownUnder> z3r0x_: Ok...and?
[22:18] <z3r0x_> And the instakking process doesn't works
[22:18] <z3r0x_> installing*
[22:18] <zenguy> so instead of sudo apt-get install foo i just type sudo apt install foo?
[22:18] <k1l> zenguy: yes
[22:18] <zenguy> ok dokie
[22:18] <YankDownUnder> z3r0x_: What exactly do you mean "the installing process doesn't work"? That's rather ambiguous...
[22:19] <OerHeks> z3r0x_, our factoid says to use the tor bundle from 3rd parties
[22:19] <OerHeks> !tor
[22:20] <z3r0x_> Ok thx i try this way
[22:20] <OerHeks> :-)
[22:21] <YankDownUnder> ...must be a full moon...
[22:22] <SerialDev> is there any way to NOT use systemd and instead use sysvinit?
[22:22] <SerialDev> just a general question there
[22:22] <k1l> SerialDev: plain sysvinit? i doubt it. there was a upstart boot mode. but i dont know if that is still there.
[22:23] <SerialDev> so systemd just took over almost the whole linux scene without even a decent review, wow (i know this issue was over two years ago, but...)
[22:23] <k1l> SerialDev: yes. you are quite late to that party :)
[22:24] <SerialDev> yeah, there was a civil war over almost, i was just reading about it half the day today
[22:24] <SerialDev> *civil war over it
[22:25] <SerialDev> split the Debian community right down the middle from what i hear
[22:25] <k1l> SerialDev: yes. but we focus on tehcnical support in here. for the gossip we have #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[22:28] <Bray90820> What's the default kernel on 16.04.1
[22:28] <k1l> Bray90820: 4.4 kernel
[22:29] <OerHeks> !info linux generic
[22:29] <ad2f24c2> where i can talk with nux/unity developers
[22:29] <OerHeks> !info linux-generic
[22:30] <OerHeks> ad2f24c2, normally via mailinglists, not many dev hang out in IRC
[22:30] <OerHeks> https://launchpad.net/unity
[22:34] <screename> hey, is the WUBI installer outdated now?
[22:34] <screename> I cant get it to work. HTTP 404 error
[22:34] <k1l> screename: yes, wubi is deprecated
[22:34] <screename> darn
[22:34] <OerHeks> screename, yes, its ugly and newer windows does not support it
[22:35] <screename> im on 7
[22:35] <screename> I cant install via usb or CD!
[22:35] <screename> it hangs at boot CD:
[22:35] <screename> for kali ubuntu fedora and debian
[22:35] <k1l> screename: make a real install or use a vm
[22:35] <bilb_ono> is this how you are supposed to make a bootable device? https://bpaste.net/show/7e582c0cdad8
[22:35] <bilb_ono> or is that supposed to be the output
[22:35] <bilb_ono> it says "No bootable devices found"
[22:36] <bilb_ono> but im not sure if the dd statement worked
[22:36] <screename> bilb_ono, i think you should use the whole dir
[22:36] <k1l> bilb_ono: if dev/disk2 is the usb drive, yes
[22:36] <bilb_ono> screename: you mean on the if part?
[22:36] <screename> /home/user/downloads/ubunt.img
[22:36] <screename> I *think*
[22:36] <OerHeks> it completed, looks good
[22:36] <screename> bilb_ono, yea
[22:36] <k1l> screename: on modern OS that is not needed.
[22:37] <k1l> bilb_ono: booting that usb on a mac?
[22:37] <bilb_ono> ok i can try that. Though I feel like it would error out if it didn't find the iso
[22:37] <screename> gotcha
[22:37] <bilb_ono> k1l: yeah
[22:37] <bilb_ono> oh no not a mac actually
[22:37] <k1l> bilb_ono: and why the 12.04 one and not a recent one?
[22:37] <screename> bilb_ono, right it probably would
[22:37] <bilb_ono> on a dell computer
[22:37] <bilb_ono> k1l: I want to run software that only works on 12.04
[22:38] <bilb_ono> hmm so what else could it be. Is there another way to inspect the usb device for whether its "bootable"?
[22:38] <k1l> run a md5sum check on that usb and compare it
[22:38] <k1l> !md5sum | bilb_ono
[22:39] <screename> DD is dangerious
[22:39] <screename> why not use YUMI or unetbootin
[22:39] <bilb_ono> never heard of those
[22:39] <k1l> screename: that both make changes to the usb which can result in not be able to boot.
[22:39] <OerHeks> .. his command performed good, please don't spread doubt :-D
[22:40] <OerHeks> his machine is probably UEFI with fastboot
[22:40] <screename> k1l, i know, it usually works tho
[22:40] <screename> https://unetbootin.github.io/
[22:40] <bilb_ono> OerHeks: should I make it legacy instead?
[22:41] <screename> pendrivelinux.com
[22:41] <screename> enable legacy in your bios yea
[22:41] <OerHeks> !uefi
[22:41] <k1l> screename: not with different syslinux versions between those programs and the iso. hence dd is the most compatible way.
[22:41] <bilb_ono> screename: and then check all of the boxes?
[22:41] <OerHeks> bilb_ono, see the wiki
[22:41] <screename> bilb_ono, for what
[22:42] <bilb_ono> screename: on the bios for legacy boot
[22:42] <screename> yesw
[22:42] <orangemeal> If I set up kde on my chromebook, is it possible to then have ubuntu installed over it? Or instead of it?
[22:42] <screename> make sure legacy is enabled one sec ill find a pic
[22:42] <ajikny> hey, all
[22:42] <k1l> orangemeal: you can install seceral desktops and choose on the login screen what to use
[22:42] <screename> https://wpcf.neosmart.net/sites/5/2014/05/AMI-UEFI-BIOS.png
[22:42] <screename> I dont think trusty has uefi
[22:43] <screename> trusty is 12 i think
[22:43] <screename> way off
[22:43] <k1l> precise is 12.04
[22:44] <screename> yea i was a little off lol
[22:44] <watwat34> when the 16.04 bug where wifi is detected as ethernet fix?
[22:44] <OerHeks> 6 months support, the claim software only works on 12.04 is hard to believe
[22:44] <ajikny> I have a weird problem, while updating ubuntu server 12.04 LTS to 14.04 LTS. Before update the usb keyboard and network on server was working. after the update the network borke and keyboard became unresponsive.
[22:44] <screename> for some reason i feel like if dd is used it makes the pendrive read only. is that right?
[22:45] <ajikny> how o i proceed with any debuging?
[22:45] <bilb_ono> ok so I did the md5sum and it came back with 48b4edf237c489eebbfef208c2650d11  ubuntu-12.04.5-desktop-amd64.iso. this looks right?
[22:45] <OerHeks> screename, no, dd does not do that, the ubuntu iso itself is readonly
[22:45] <orangemeal> k1l, would you mind if I message you with a question about enabling one over the other?
[22:46] <k1l> orangemeal: just ask here
[22:46] <orangemeal> Sure. So using this guide
[22:46] <orangemeal> https://www.linux.com/learn/how-easily-install-ubuntu-chromebook-crouton%20
[22:46] <k1l> orangemeal: ubuntu-desktop will install the unity desktop and programs on a kubuntu install
[22:47] <screename> bilb_ono, try setting bios to legacy, thats probably the issue
[22:47] <tomreyn> ajikny: review logs, especially dmesg + syslog. re-plug the keyboard , re-connect the network cable, while looking at a tail -f on the logs.
[22:47] <screename> I doubt ubuntu 12.04 has uefi support
[22:47] <orangemeal> I'm using crouton to set up a linux system. It walks me though setting up kde. Is there something I need to do instead to get to an ubuntu setup like this? https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b4/Ubuntu_Desktop_12.10.png
[22:47] <screename> wrong again, google says 12.04 was the first to introduce uefi
[22:47] <orangemeal> Or is it just a step that follows after?
[22:48] <k1l> bilb_ono: 48b4edf237c489eebbfef208c2650d11 is the ubuntu-12.04.5-desktop-amd64.iso so that dd command was correct. as we said before
[22:48] <ajikny> @tomreyn I did reconnect the kb and the nw cable.
[22:48] <ajikny> How can i access logs without kb
[22:48] <ajikny> ??
[22:48] <sebas_> hola
[22:48] <sebas_> hello
[22:49] <sebas_> hello
[22:49] <tomreyn> ajikny: not, you do the tail -f /var/log/syslog, then re-plug the keyboard, then ctrl-c
[22:49] <screename> sebas_, ay
[22:49] <tomreyn> ajikny:oh wait you mean you have no means to provide any input to the system currently?
[22:49] <sebas_> hello
[22:50] <ajikny> yesss
[22:50] <sebas_> i'm just trying this
[22:50] <ajikny> cannt ssh into it
[22:50] <k1l> orangemeal: read more properly. "(If you don’t want KDE, then you can replace kde with xfce, or unity )"
[22:50] <ajikny> cant type into it
[22:50] <tomreyn> ajikny: oh okay, and no serial either?
[22:50] <screename> So is there a WUBI alternative?
[22:50] <k1l> orangemeal: the ubuntu desktop is called unity
[22:50] <sebas_> i'm new here in ubuntu mate
[22:50] <ajikny> there is no ps2 hardware
[22:50] <k1l> screename: no. make a real install or use a proper vm
[22:50] <orangemeal> aaahh
[22:50] <screename> k1l, I cant
[22:50] <orangemeal> I didn't realize unity was what I was looking for then
[22:51] <screename> I have made about 7 usbs with linux os, and 4 different cds
[22:51] <k1l> screename: you can.
[22:51] <tomreyn> ajikny: i meant a serial console. but you probably do not then.
[22:51] <screename> VM is out of the question with 4gb of ram and a dual core proccessor from 2004
[22:51] <screename> no virtualization at all
[22:51] <ajikny> funnything is. keyboard works till grub menu. As soon as the kernel is loaded the kb goes off.
[22:51] <screename> unplug it and plug it back in
[22:51] <tomreyn> ajikny: so i guess you press the power button and hope for it to come up fine again? since you can't make any input anyways
[22:51] <OerHeks> screename, lolx, then install, with such demands
[22:52] <screename> OerHeks, im trying to install
[22:52] <ajikny> yepp
[22:52] <screename> this system hangs at boot CD: from anything but windows usbs and CDS
[22:52] <ajikny> i booted into liveboot ubuntu 14.04 . there kb worked
[22:52] <screename> never seen anything like this piece of shit
[22:52] <tomreyn> ajikny: did network work there, too?
[22:52] <ajikny> and network too.
[22:53] <screename> http://www.ecs.com.tw/ECSWebSite/Product/Product_Detail.aspx?DetailID=678&MenuID=16&LanID=0
[22:53] <OerHeks> screename, please watch your language
[22:53] <screename> Sorry
[22:53] <screename> will do
[22:53] <erasmus> holy fucking shit Gene Wilder died =(
[22:53] <screename> yea he did
[22:53] <erasmus> so sad
[22:54] <tomreyn> ajikny: so since you can boot into the live cd and the keyboard works there, you can use it to mount your on-disk root or var file system and inspect the logs.
[22:54] <screename> ^
[22:55] <screename> woah
[22:55] <sankar> hi
[22:55] <screename> hi
[22:55] <sankar> How r u
[22:55] <screename> Good, and you?
[22:55] <sankar> goo, thnx
[22:56] <ajikny> okay, i will get back with the logs
[22:56] <ajikny> any other information i need to get??
[22:56] <screename> I wish i had a log so i could show you guys why any linux drives refuse to boot from this PC
[22:56] <screename> It litterally just sits at Boot CD:
[22:56] <screename> or ACPI something
[22:57] <tomreyn> ajikny: syslog should be sufficient. maybe also dmesg and messages
[22:57] <k1l> screename: try a ubuntu iso and see what the exact error is. that general "is not working" is very hard to support.
[22:57] <ajikny> i would need to be logged on for dmesg... is that correct ???
[22:58] <screename> If I make an UBUNTU ISO it sits at Boot CD:
[22:58] <edenist> hi there!
[22:58] <screename> it loads up shows some IRQs, sits at irq9 ACPI for about 1-2 mins and then goes to Boot CD:
[22:58] <k1l> screename: dd the iso onto the usb. then try again
[22:58] <screename> Damnit
[22:58] <edenist> was wondering if anyone has done the latest HWE update on 14.04?
[22:59] <bilb_ono> lol
[22:59] <ajikny> tomreyn: is there any other way to run dmesg?
[22:59] <screename> Is there a DD software for windows lol
[22:59] <k1l> edenist: what is the issue?
[22:59] <screename> to google!
[22:59] <yeats> edenist: I have
[22:59] <edenist> yeats, did it go smoothly? It's a pretty big jump, in both kernel and graphics stack [I'm running amd]
[23:00] <bumblefuzz> is there any reason that Weather Report 1.12.1 in my menu bar, won't update?
[23:00] <edenist> in particular, I'm going fro kernel 3.16 to 4.4, and I'm currently running zfs with the dkms module. As 4.4 has native nfs support, will this cause any issues?
[23:00] <bumblefuzz> I've waited several days and on tried on different networks but it just doesn't update
[23:01] <screename> can someone give me the dd command so i dont destroy my usb
[23:01] <ajikny> hi, all, i need some help.. After live booting in a system. Can i install packages on the harddisk???
[23:01] <screename> you could
[23:01] <Dreemurr> sudo dd if=(your image) of=/dev/sdX
[23:01] <screename> but they are not persistant
[23:02] <screename> Dreemurr, on windows
[23:02] <Dreemurr> (x is your drive)
[23:02] <screename> of=C:\*?
[23:02] <ajikny> any way to make them persistant?
[23:02] <k1l> ajikny: you need to chroot to that installed system first
[23:02] <tomreyn> ajikny: xou don't need to run dmesg, just get the logs.
[23:02] <ajikny> tomreyn: ok
[23:02] <k1l> screename: so you only have windows? then try "rufus"
[23:02] <screename> Rufus also fails
[23:03] <ajikny> k1l: i bound the /dev, /sys/ /proc and chrooted the hard disk
[23:03] <screename> The only system i have avilable is a windows one yea
[23:03] <screename> POS
[23:04] <ajikny> k1l: is this the courrect way??
[23:04] <screename> Ill try rufus again because it has that mbr feature ill update
[23:04] <screename> ill write down anythnig that pops up and be back.
[23:04] <Dreemurr> do you have administer access
[23:04] <screename> Dreemurr, me? yep
[23:04] <Dreemurr> hmmm
[23:05] <Polarcraft_> What would caused Postfix to not save to the Maildir?
[23:05] <k1l> ajikny: "for dir in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount --bind $dir /mnt/$dir; done "
[23:05] <Dreemurr> if rufus isn't working then i dont know what to tell you. have you tried to use dd instead of iso mode or vice versa
[23:05] <k1l> ajikny: after that you need for internet: "sudo mount -o bind /etc/resolv.conf /mnt/etc/resolv.conf"
[23:06] <tomreyn> Polarcraft_: lack of permissions, a read-only mounted file system.
[23:06] <Polarcraft_> tomreyn, what should the directory be set as?
[23:07] <tomreyn> Polarcraft_: one which postfix can write to.
[23:07] <Polarcraft_> What directory would that be? The email isn't being delivered to the users directory of 'Maildir'.
[23:07] <ajikny> tomreyn: thanks will be back with more info tommoro. Unfortunately I cannot access the server now.
[23:08] <ajikny> k1l: Thanks
[23:09] <tomreyn> Polarcraft_: what is home_mailbox set to?
[23:09] <Polarcraft_> Maildir/
[23:09] <tomreyn> fine
[23:10] <Polarcraft_> tomreyn, sorry?
[23:11] <Bashing-om> screename: Acer ?
[23:11] <tomreyn> Polarcraft_: that's correct if you want to store the mail in the users' home directory + Maildir/ which i assume is what you are trying to do
[23:12] <Polarcraft> tomreyn, correct, but my problem is the mail isn't actually in that directory currently.
[23:12] <tomreyn> Polarcraft: did you check postfix's logs?
[23:13] <tomreyn> Polarcraft: what do they have to say about the email you sent, and how it processed it?
[23:13] <sgen> Hey all Im on ubuntu 15 and I want to upgrade to 16 but apt-get dist-upgrade is finding no updates
[23:13] <tomreyn> Polarcraft: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostfixBasicSetupHowto#Setting_Postfix_Support_for_Maildir-style_Mailboxes
[23:13] <sgen> Im assuming this is because my /etc/apt/sources.list doesnt contain the 16 sources
[23:14] <k1l> sgen: ubuntu doesnt use apt to do that.
[23:14] <k1l> sgen: run "update-manager" on desktop or "sudo do-release-upgrade" in cli
[23:14] <sgen> ty
[23:14] <sgen> k1l: thanks!
[23:14] <k1l> sgen: that old way of upgradeing with apt is long time deprecated on ubuntu
[23:14] <maxb> You are not on Ubuntu 15. You are on either 15.04 or 15.10. These are distinct versions that are not part of some overarching Ubuntu 15 concept
[23:15] <sgen> maxb: Does the upgrade method change between 15.04 and 15.10?
[23:15] <screename> Bashing-om, It is ACER!
[23:15] <k1l> sgen: "lsb_release -sd" brings what output?
[23:15] <maxb> No, it's been the same for years
[23:15] <sgen> So what does it matter?
[23:15] <tomreyn> sgen: no its usage, no. internals probably have changed.
[23:15] <k1l> sgen: and yes, that is a big difference if you are on 15.04 or 15.10. since its 2 different releases
[23:15] <screename> but i dnot see that anywere on the mobo, itsa NFORCE 570 SLIT-A v5.1
[23:16] <maxb> You would probably find it awkward if I only typed the first half of every word, so don't do the equivalent with version numbers
[23:16] <screename> windows detected an ACER board, Phoenix AWARD bios update failed because it "Couldnt detect award bios"
[23:17] <sgen> So fo both yo ma
[23:17] <Sho__> hello.
[23:17] <screename> Also cleared the CMOS
[23:17] <Bashing-om> screename: Sounded like it . Ya got to circumvent Windows' shinanigan : see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2330267 <-  set "trust" on the Ubuntu/grub .efi files.
[23:18] <sgen> k1l: thanks for the heads up on do-release-upgrade Im upgrading now
[23:18] <screename> Bashing-om, thats the most promising thing i have heard in the past week
[23:18] <Polarcraft> tomreyn, this is what the log says: http://i.tripps.pw/error.txt
[23:18] <transhuman_> hi have a slight problem have to back date 2 packages to the ones in the ubuntu 14.04 repository whats the easiest way to fix this
[23:19] <transhuman_> it tries to remove a million packages
[23:19] <screename> Bashing-om, although Im fairly sure this thing doesnt have UEFI
[23:20] <screename> Okay! can anybody help me find a BIOS update that will actually run
[23:20] <screename> Phoenix Tech, AWARD BIOS 6.0
[23:20] <Bashing-om> screename: I still will not be surprised if ya got to set a password to boot anything but Windows .
[23:20] <OerHeks> you better try #hardware for that
[23:20] <OerHeks> or ##hardware
[23:21] <screename> Bashing-om, setting a bios pass?
[23:21] <tomreyn> Polarcraft: okay, so it locally relayed it to tripps-pw's Maildir
[23:21] <k1l> screename: you need a bios update from your manufacturer. you cant just flash a random bios.
[23:21] <screename> i know
[23:21] <Polarcraft> tomreyn, is there supposed to be a file in the directory?
[23:21] <screename> NFORCE 570 SLIT-A v5.1
[23:21] <screename> Phoenix Tech AWARD BIOS 6.0
[23:21] <fione>  I want to ask about the installation of Whatsapp on ubuntu. Can anyone point me to the right channel?
[23:22] <OerHeks> whatsapp on ubuntu .. try the wineHQ database ?
[23:22] <OerHeks> !wine
[23:22] <danny_> People often say, Use a vm, put it in a vm.  I get that this somehow compartmentalizes stuff but when and why would I do this?  Also how hard is it?
[23:22] <OerHeks> i think it is not possible
[23:22] <tomreyn> Polarcraft: i would expect a file to have been written into /home/tripps-pw/Maildir/ now, yes. i'm not really into Maildir much, though. Maybe talk to the postfix folks directly.
[23:22] <Bashing-om> screename: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2333630 more links to boot ubuntu on a Acer .
[23:23] <screename> Bashing-om, is it possible that my chip is incompatable with linux?
[23:23] <tomreyn> danny_: if you use something like virtualbox then it's really easy.
[23:24] <screename> Processor	Intel(R) Pentium(R) D CPU 3.00GHz, 3000 Mhz, 2 Core(s), 2 Logical Processor(s)
[23:24] <Bashing-om> screename: Doubtful, more likely vendor lockin for Windows .
[23:25] <screename> fuck it, ill see what happens if i set a supe pass,
[23:25] <screename> and with this rufus drive, rufus works for ubuntu right?
[23:25] <danny_> tomreyn, ok, thats nice, now I just need a reason to use one
[23:25] <OerHeks> ...
[23:26] <danny_> screename, to make a boot drive?  no rufus
[23:26] <OerHeks> screename, first you have a big mouth that you know what is best, now you troll?
[23:28] <screename> OerHeks, im just trying to get this fucker to boot
[23:28] <screename> sorry this sucker
[23:28] <screename> YUMI and unetbootin have always worked wonders for me
[23:29] <bazhang_> no cursing here screename
[23:29] <screename> Sorry I forgot
[23:31] <tomreyn> danny_: one thing you can use it for it to try the latest ubuntu installer ISOs. another is some other operating systems or linux distributions. yet another is to test out some live linux cd's.
[23:42] <_adb> while running do-release-upgrade (14.04 => 16.04) i get a message "16 installed packages are no longer supported by Canonical." included in this list are gimp and numlockx. both of these packages appear in the "upgrade" list later on. what gives? are these packages supported in 16 or not?
[23:43] <WaV> _adb: gimp is yes because I used it yesterday.
[23:44] <_adb> i expect that both packages will continue to work... i'm mostly confused why this tool reports that they're not supported
[23:45] <_adb> oh. apparently these packages were just moved from main to universe.
[23:45] <_adb> nevermind
[23:47] <decoder> :)
[23:53] <tomreyn> _adb: there are different levels of support. there are packages canonical will support, those in main. then there are thos community supported ones, and then there are others where no level of support is to be taken for granted at all.
[23:53] <tomreyn> ubuntu-support-status --show-all
[23:54] <tomreyn> ...provides canonicals' POV on your system.
[23:55] <_adb> oh, that's a neat tool. thanks!
[23:58] <tomreyn> welcome ;)