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bluesabreflocculant, knome, it's ok to leave my name wrong :D00:26
bluesabreI can go by S. Davis going forward00:26
knome(:00:27
bluesabreknome, pleia2, not sure if I should author an article about becoming MOTU through xubuntu when I have been talking about working towards motu for several cycles and not done it yet00:28
bluesabrea bit unqualified :D00:28
knomebluesabre, well, you'll get to it eventually00:28
bluesabre(to write the article that is)00:28
knomeand i don't really mean even about the mentoring side00:28
bluesabreI'm definitely up for mentoring00:29
knomei'm talking about communicating that we always have things to upload, and we are usually relatively clear about what we want, so there might be some relatively hanging fruit here00:29
knomepleia2, sorry, i took another one of your work items00:31
knome...aaaaand the pad is almost empty, just some knome things left00:33
knomebluesabre, see what i did today ;) http://staging.xubuntu.org/news/release/14-04/00:34
knome(note: staging)00:34
knomeand a glimpse to the admin side: http://temp.knome.fi/xubuntu/website/release-link-edit.png00:35
bluesabreknome, so, expiring release announcements... or?00:36
knome:D00:39
knomenope00:39
knomemoving the press stuff under the release pages00:40
knomeand the download links00:40
knomeand the screenshots00:40
knomecurrently we have this: http://xubuntu.org/news/release/14-04/00:40
knomeso now you can get all information from one page00:41
knomeand it's automagically collected together00:41
knome(and adding press links is so much easier)00:41
bluesabreoh, alrighty, neat01:06
bluesabrelong day01:06
bluesabre:)01:06
knomemhm01:07
knomeit's 4am :D01:07
bluesabresleep man01:07
bluesabre:D01:07
knomenooo01:07
flocculantbluesabre: good - sorry about that :)07:04
knomepleia2, heeeey, my latest push is online :D10:00
knomepleia2, (o hai 5am!)10:00
knomeokay, onto migrating content...10:01
knomele sigh!10:02
knomepleia2, ok, something for you to be aware of:10:41
knomepleia2, i'm going to land a change that changes the URLs for the releases10:41
knomepleia2, currently: http://xubuntu.org/news/release/16-04/10:41
knomepleia2, will be: http://xubuntu.org/release/16-04/10:41
knomepleia2, (since it's not only news any more)10:41
knomepleia2, are you very worried about this or will we just go with it? now it's adding one array inside another, if we want to keep both urls available, it'll be much more work10:42
knomepleia2, ok, all content is migrated to new format, i'll tackle the changes needed elsewhere on the site later today12:40
pleia2knome: breaking all our old urls is a bit :(13:36
pleia2but I'm not sure how widely distributed these were13:36
pleia2mostly it was the blog posts people saw and were shared in announcements and things13:37
pleia2I think13:37
knomeyep13:42
knomewe could go fix our own links if that helps13:42
knomebasically i'd like to support .'s in the urls, but that's a bit hacky13:46
* knome goes file another rt ticket13:47
knomepleia2, tip for the UWN (and a shameless plug): http://open.knome.fi/2016/08/29/a-wordpress-theme-for-ubuntu-community-teams/14:14
pleia2knome: ty15:09
pleia2it'll go in next week15:19
knomeno worries15:27
knomepleia2, wordpress and dokuwiki updates done17:13
pleia2ty17:14
knomenp17:15
NoskcajCan one of the guys with the relevant powers please sync xfce4-weather-plugin, small fix to the api url just got put into debian20:22
Noskcajbluesabre, What's the issue with the clutter camera affecting mugshot in xenial? Is the fix needed in debian or yakkety?20:38
Unit193Recent GTK3 uploads to Debian: libxfce4ui (4.13.0-1, no glade), xfce4-power-manager (1.6.0-1), xfce4-terminal (0.6.90-1)20:44
Unit193Noskcaj: LP hasn't picked it up yet.20:44
NoskcajUnit193, oh ok, it's coming up on requestsync just without a changelog20:47
Unit193Thus not getting picked up yet, yep.20:47
pleia2knome: ok, how do I do this thing22:26
knomego to admin, then release links and "add new"22:26
pleia2ty22:26
knomein the first box, just leave the press selection there22:26
knomein the second box, you enter the link title and url22:26
pleia2hey, what happened to our pad D:22:26
knomeand in the first one, you enter the author site, then author editor and author url (you can leave editor empty)22:27
knomehaha22:27
knomei did everything that was in there22:27
pleia2I put all the links in there!22:27
knomeand moved the rest to the blueprints22:27
knomeyou did?22:27
knomewell you can still get to the history22:27
pleia2yeah22:27
knomesorry, i didn't notice i wiped that stuff22:27
pleia2I guess I didn't22:27
* pleia2 greplogs22:27
knomeyeah22:28
knomei remember you pasted them in the PM i guess22:28
knomeor sth22:28
knomeor channel?22:28
pleia2would have helped me to have them struck out rather than deleted though, I wanted to look at the pad again ;)22:28
knomewell.. you still can get the history :D22:28
pleia2time slider is annoying22:28
pleia2yeah22:28
knomehaha22:28
pleia2pleia2 hates deleting things, it's knome's hobby...22:28
knomei moved the done action items that were important enough to the blueprints as well22:29
knomepleia2, http://pad.ubuntu.com/ep/pad/view/xubuntu-marketing-august-2016/rev.125322:30
knomepleia2, i started deleting stuff after that22:30
* pleia2 nods22:30
knomepads are transient anyway22:30
pleia2yay, very pretty :) http://xubuntu.org/news/release/16-04/22:34
knomeindeed22:35
knomeon the last update i'm also ordering by link title22:35
pleia2I still like our big /press page22:36
knomethe archive is pretty meh22:36
pleia2er, press/archive22:36
pleia2no, it's great22:36
knomehaha22:36
knomewell22:36
knomejust wait22:36
pleia2a whole history of awesome!22:36
knomeat some point in the near future i'll do something for that22:36
* pleia2 nods22:36
knomei don't know exactly what yet22:37
pleia2I can to the copy/pasta to put them all in our new system if that's the way we go22:37
knomenope22:37
pleia2s/to/do22:37
knomei did that already22:37
pleia2k22:37
knomeso if we want the press archive still22:37
pleia2we do22:37
knomei'll just create a shortcode that prints everything22:37
knomeor sth22:37
pleia2ok22:37
knomebasically i'd like a "start page" for releases22:37
knomethat would serve as some kind of history page as well22:38
knomemaybe something like that would work for you?22:38
knomeor do you want a plain list of all the links?22:38
pleia2I like what we have now22:39
knomei know you hate deleting and change too ;)22:39
pleia2lol22:39
pleia2<322:39
pleia2I find great value in the historical niceness of having an archive page22:40
pleia2wouldn't want to click through all the releases to see them all22:40
knomemmh.22:40
knomemaybe.22:40
pleia2make it so!22:40
knome:D22:40
pleia2hehe22:40
knomelater22:40
pleia2k22:40
knomei mean, it's not a big task22:40
knomehow do we want to handle the main press page?22:41
pleia2I think it's fine22:41
knomenooo :D22:41
pleia2except actually list those 16.04 ones ;)22:41
knomei mean, we *really* don't want to duplicate the effort22:41
knomeso make the shortcode accept a parameter to get stuff from one release only22:42
pleia2it still pulls the links from the same place, right?22:42
knomenot right now22:42
pleia2so make 16.04 links show up on /press and the release page22:42
knomethe release pages are the only automatic ones now22:42
pleia2yeah, right now it's still manual22:42
knomedo we want to auto-guess the latest release?22:42
pleia2well, we have to update the /press page anyway to say that it's the whatever release22:43
pleia2so a bit to flip when we do that?22:43
knomewell, when we auto-guess the latest release, we can get all information related to that release22:43
knomeincluding the name22:43
pleia2ah22:43
pleia2suppose we could guess, the data exists22:43
knomeyep22:43
pleia2go numbers, and sequential time22:44
knomewell,22:44
knomethere's one problem22:44
knomewell not really22:44
knomewe likely want to switch to the latest release only after its releaes22:44
pleia2yeah22:44
knomeso when we register the release, we need to make sure we add the release date there22:44
* pleia2 nods22:44
knomeanother thing we aren't tracking technically yet is the LTS status22:44
pleia2right22:44
knomeso maybe a simple checkbox22:44
knomeone minor thing i was considering is to move the codename with the release/eol dates22:48
knomewith this amount of content, it starts to be a bit overwhelming22:49
pleia2you're the expert :)22:52
knomehaha22:52
knome:)22:52
knomei play one by my trade22:52
bluesabreevening all23:21
knomehello simon23:21
knomei mean sean23:21
bluesabreNoskcaj, the issue affecting xenial is that the clutter API I used was completed deprecated between clutter releases... and from what I understand, clutter itself is also due to be completed deprecated in the future23:22
bluesabreknome, :P23:22
knome(:23:22

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