[00:59] quick question, if I plug a second monitor in while xfce4 is running, is it likely to detect it? [01:08] nevermind, it did :P [01:11] yes, always better to ask random people on internet than *gasp* just try it :) [10:34] is there any need to install xubuntu-restricted-extras? sound and video already supported.. [10:42] ?? [10:43] me :is there any need to install xubuntu-restricted-extras? sound and video already supported.. [10:43] You can see, using `apt show xubuntu-restricted-extras`, whether you want the packages it includes. [10:45] if i install restricted extras, does that improve anything? [10:45] green1, if everything is working, don't install [10:46] green1, basically it adds support for some extra stuff, but again, if everything is working for you, you don't need it [10:46] eg. it doesn't "improve" anything that is already working, it only enables things to work [10:47] thank you all..:) [15:07] any damn bugs fixed now? [15:07] still hav issues with suspend freezes :/ [15:07] choki, just for reminder, whining doesn't help, patches do [15:07] chrome freezes after suspend [15:08] knome: i cant do anything :"( [15:08] knome: 15.04 worked like a charm [15:08] choki, but you can't expect that people fix bugs faster if you whine either [15:08] so why do you destroy 16.04 lts then? [15:08] knome: sorry but it is unusable :D [15:08] oh you're right, it must be us purposefully putting the bugs there... [15:09] ...nope. [15:09] i just dont understand how could someone call it LTS [15:09] now i know why people use mint that much [15:09] again, whining doesn't help [15:09] ok [15:09] i stop :"( [15:09] choki: All OSes have some situations they screw up on. [15:10] if you have filed bug reports and followed up with any information you are requested (if any), you have done everything you can (except if you can fix the bugs itself) [15:10] Rarrikins: i just hate how could someone destroy something that was working before like a charm <3 [15:10] i really wish to love xubuntu [15:10] the issue is with lightdm [15:10] so why not just up/downgrade? [15:10] choki, please, by saying somebody "destroys" something, you are implying that somebody has purposefully added the bugs. [15:10] because issues aren't black and white like that. [15:11] while lightdm has a new version, so has many libraries it uses too [15:11] oh [15:11] deps deps deps depend on deps [15:11] what a nightmare :/ [15:11] so while it may look like the issue is with lightdm, it might be something else [15:11] ok i understand now [15:11] it might be something unexpected in lightdm as well though [15:12] seriously, if the developers knew what is causing a bug, they *would* fix them [15:12] so far, they don't [15:12] knome: do you have these issues? [15:12] i don't suspend [15:12] lol [15:12] anyway, dinner time [15:13] (that doesn't mean i don't suspend because i'd have those problems, i just have no use for that feature) [15:13] knome: dont you use a laptop? [15:27] choki, yes, but i don't suspend, as i said [15:29] I use 1404 on thinkpad, and it works well. Last core. Fresh soft. No bugs. Support to 19 year. Don't upgrade. Don't make this mistake. [15:29] StayaSinic, except that xubuntu 14.04 is only supported until april 2017... [15:30] wow [15:30] on the same breath, i use 16.04 on a thinkpad, and it works well. [15:30] that's bad [15:31] 1604 has some graphical artefacts like windows freezes [15:31] maybe now its fixed [15:34] StayaSinic: but i made this mistake :/ [15:34] StayaSinic: also i dont like to use 3 year old software till 19 [15:35] StayaSinic: yes freezes all the time :/ [15:43] how about cpu temp? [15:43] not much [15:43] about cpu frequency? [15:43] low [15:44] :D [15:44] no, what number? [15:44] i5 [15:45] I had a bug that the driver intel_pstate make not correct frequency [15:45] 843 1329 1998 etc [15:45] i gonna switch back to lm17.3 soon [15:46] i cant even suspend on my desktop [15:46] it says it has no permissions do do so [15:46] like srsly [15:46] choki, please stop whining, it *really* doesn't help [15:46] knome: i dont [15:46] pc has freez. but i add intel_pstate=disable on /etc/defaul/grub and pc work well without this .. [15:46] and if mint works for you, then use that [15:46] knome: but you can't tell me your desktop never suspends [15:47] choki, yes i can. i don't suspend. [15:47] do you have 1.21 Gigawatts? [15:47] people have different usecases [15:47] i gtg soon [15:47] outta this train [15:47] in the real life! [15:47] without any freezes [15:48] knome: i gonna eat now see ya :3 [15:48] so, i am currently using non-x ubuntu and i downloaded xubuntu desktop with apt-get, but idk how to use [15:48] it [15:49] knome: i will be more silent then after i feel not that hungry anymore hahah [15:49] ilzolende: you need to logout and on login screen there is a button to choose the desktop [15:49] how do i use xubuntu-desktop instead of unity? [15:49] oh okay [15:49] thanks [15:49] i will do that the next time i log out [15:49] ilzolende: it is a round circle button [15:49] thanks [15:49] ilzolende: but why you not just install xubuntu? [15:50] the download time was 10x the download time of ubuntu? [15:50] O_o [15:50] no [15:50] not in filesize [15:50] just in download time [15:50] xubuntu is smaller usually! [15:50] also you didn't seem to have signatures? [15:51] or at least i couldn't find a verification procedure [15:53] and you guys didn't have https [15:53] (did you say anything while my computer was closed?) [15:55] you can download xubuntu-core [15:55] what's the advantage of that? [15:55] https://unit193.net/xubuntu/core/ [15:55] oh, it's smaller [15:55] 500mb [15:55] it still isn't https [15:55] and is it signed? [15:56] MD5, SHA-256 [15:56] nice [15:56] the xubuntu-core ISOs aren't official, yet [15:56] realy? [15:56] and note that it isn't the same as the xubuntu desktop ISO [15:57] StayaSinic, yes, really. [15:57] i mean, i currently already have ubuntu, i can make it more xubuntu-like but it seems like a pain to uninstall and reinstall [15:57] ilzolende, you can install the xubuntu-desktop package if you want to run them side-by-side to test etc. [15:57] [nods] [15:58] ok. [15:58] i mean my friends with opinions say (xubuntu|kubuntu) > ubuntu [15:59] ilzolende: The directory of the ISO download will contain hashes and the signature for those hashes (e.g., http://mirror.us.leaseweb.net/ubuntu-cdimage/xubuntu/releases/16.04/release/). The signature can be verified with https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto [16:00] [nods] [16:01] what is a trouble? need xubuntu - install meta-package && uninstall unity [16:01] Go try uninstall unity...lol [16:02] if not a perfectionist - sets all desktop [16:02] uninstalling just unity will not leave you with the same desktop as a clean installation of xubuntu either [16:02] that's why suggested that installing them side-by-side is a good way to *test* both systems [16:04] idle talk [16:06] sir, yes, sir. [16:06] (seriously, i'm sure all suggestions are welcome for most people who *ask* for help) [16:07] i'll try rebooting later, and will hold onto the other suggestions as well [16:07] One nice trick if you have a good Internet connection is to get the minimal install ISO. It lets you choose which flavor you want to install and downloads the latest packages so you're up-to-date. [16:07] i'm not short on storage space [16:08] It also fits on a CD, unlike most flavors. [16:08] though you will end up downloading most of the packages you download with the ISO anyway [16:08] (just saying...) [16:08] Yep :) [16:09] I found this article super interesting: https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/library/l-linux-shells/ === ilzolende is now known as ilzo|afk [16:46] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD [17:18] knome: u back? [17:18] also who is knob ? :D [17:19] we have #xubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. [17:21] knome: but there is no other chit chat going on atm [17:21] and? [17:21] knome: i lik yu :3 [17:21] then take your chit chat to #xubuntu-offtopic [17:21] we need to meet some time! [18:28] does anyone know the location of the icons for the sidebar in thunar? [18:29] my music folder is missing the icon and id like to fix that [18:31] Hey everyone. Will xubuntu install on a 8gb USB stick? [18:32] so220, yes. [18:32] I would like my PC to rub off my usb [18:33] so220, it will work. [18:33] Thank yiu, g [18:33] so220, use rufus or unetbootin [18:33] Oh um I have my phone hosting an img. Never tried USB to usb [18:34] well ive never booted a live usb session/system from the internal storage of my phone, so.. [18:35] it will definatly work from an 8gb usb stick, but i have no idea about the internal storage of a phone.. [18:35] Thanks [18:38] where is the location of the icons used in the side panel of thunar? [18:44] where do xfce themes store their icons? [21:02] having an annoying error/slowdown with mousepad. anyone around? [21:02] the text editor that is [21:03] some sort of dconf error [22:36] hi [22:36] how much RAM does xubuntu use at first boot [22:44] Hey everyone, I'm using Trusty Tahr (14.04.2) and would like to know if the 4.2.0 lowlatency kernels on the trusty repositories are vunerable to the Off-path TCP Exploit. [22:47] I tried building my own 4.7.2 kernel but the NVidia DKMS drivers throws an error [22:47] driver === bazhang_ is now known as bazhang [23:54] First time trying out any Linux based system! Wish me luck