[00:11] anyone got experiences with openstack on 16.04 multi nodes? === sikun_ is now known as sikun [01:15] thai_: We have a 16-node openstack cluster (that is 16 compute nodes, routers and storage are separte) at work. I think it's till on 14.04. I could ask around if you have a specific question [03:33] I'm setting up a dev lamp server. How should I go about granting permissions for my user and the web server to write to /var/www/html? [03:39] I'm thinking maybe I should make www-data the owner of the group and add my user to that group? [05:04] Zeranoe: that's one decent way; I dislike the idea that the server may have the ability to write to those files, so I'd also suggest that www-data itself not own those files; either group or world permissions to read them is better, imho === lifeless_ is now known as lifeless [05:37] sarnold: So maybe don't touch own, but add the user to www-data and grant write permissions for groups for /var/www/html ? [05:38] I guess I'm not seeing how that's any different... [05:40] Zeranoe: I just like to make sure that the web server itself can only write to its log files and database / fpm sockets if you can [05:40] sarnold: Doesn't that cripple a large number of web applications...? [05:41] Zeranoe: if your apps have to allow uploading stuff, maybe that too :) [05:42] I think a better solution would be to have decently written code so that rouge writes don't happen [05:47] somehow 'write bug-free code' just never gets to the top of manager's priorities :( [05:47] I hear that [06:57] "write bug-free code" never gets on employee priorities either [06:57] or rather, results [06:57] so why bother [08:46] sarnold: hallyn: Thanks. :) [08:56] tomreyn: there? [08:56] I have got the kernlog and the syslog [08:56] from the server [08:58] I have a weird problem. I upgraded ubuntu server 12.04 LTS to 1.404 LTS. [08:58] 14.04 LTS [08:59] as soon as i upgraded the keyboard and network stopped working [08:59] The keyboard works till we load grub. [08:59] as soon as the kernel is load the kb stops working [09:00] funnily enough the kb and network both work in the live boot [09:01] i have tried installing image-extra-generic, update-usbids, linux-firmware, linux-firmware-nonfree followed by update-initramfs -k all -c [09:07] Hello. I have a weird problem I am building deb packages for ubuntu trusty, the control file in the deb package is broken. In the depends section some other packages have an extra dash - at the end, and this makes the package impossible to install [09:07] https://code.launchpad.net/~zioproto/ubuntu/+source/cinder/+git/cinder/+merge/304341 [09:10] anyone had a similar problem before ? [09:18] zioproto: Can you paste an example of the problematic file? [09:19] Odd_Bloke: check the comment here https://code.launchpad.net/~zioproto/ubuntu/+source/cinder/+git/cinder/+merge/304341 [09:19] I pasted the file [09:20] zioproto: Oh, apologies. [09:20] no problem [09:20] the package where I have the problem is python-cinder [09:21] di you see that python-novaclient- ? the ending - in the control file brakes the dependencies [09:22] zioproto: Yeah, that's strange. [09:23] zioproto: How are you building your .dsc? (And can you paste it?) [09:23] sure, give me a second [09:24] here is the dsc http://pastebin.com/2jCg74gu [09:25] zioproto: Hmm, not really sure what the problem is I'm afraid. [09:27] I have a weird problem. I upgraded ubuntu server 12.04 LTS to 14.04 LTS as soon as i upgraded the keyboard and network stopped working The keyboard works till we load grub. as soon as the kernel is load the kb stops working [14:30] funnily enough the kb and network both work in the live boot i have tried installing image-extra-generic, update-usbid [09:32] sorry I have to be away from keyboard for 30 mins, I will be back [09:32] do you see anything in /dev/input [09:32] do you see anything in the syslog about the network devices being loaded/brought online or failing [09:33] ikonia: i get by-id by-path event [0-4] js0 mice mouse0 mouse1 [09:33] where do you get that ? [09:33] i have livebooted inot the system [09:34] *into [09:34] thats not really going to help diagnose the problem [09:34] i have the chrooted dmesg and sys logs [09:35] dmesg isn't a file [09:35] if it can help [09:35] it's real time information [09:35] so thats not going to help getting dmesg from the livecd [09:35] I assume you have no boot splashes enabled when the system boots [09:35] no [09:35] when the system boots do you see any errors/warnings, especailly around the network [09:36] it stops at waiting for network configuration [09:36] for 60seconds and then proceeds with boot without full config [09:36] are you using dhcp ? [09:36] no.. static config [09:37] ok - so the syslog from the system should show it trying to bring up the devices [09:37] find that in the syslog and see what it's doing with the network [09:37] okayyy... hold on [09:43] Odd_Bloke: I am trying to rebuild the package without my patch to see if I have anyway the problem with the control file [10:06] Odd_Bloke: James Page from canonical commented on the merge request saying I am maybe hitting a known bug of cloud-archive-utils [10:06] and yes I am able to reproduce the problem even with the upstream package without my patch [10:06] jamespage: oh you are here :) [10:06] zioproto, hey! [10:07] zioproto, just digging on your problem now [10:07] jamespage: to push the fixed changelog, should I just commit amend and push force, or you prefer a tree with multiple commits ? [10:07] jamespage: thank you ! [10:07] zioproto, amend and force push is good for me [10:08] zioproto, can you confirm your cloud-archive-utils pkg version? [10:09] jamespage: Installed: 0.1-0~50~ubuntu16.04.1 [10:09] zioproto, ok that's good [10:09] * jamespage thinks [10:09] jamespage: check the merge request page, I added more stuff [10:10] jamespage: my doubt is, when I use the command sbuild-liberty, then in the chroot what version of could-archive-utils will be used ? [10:10] zioproto, for reference you can drop "-d trusty-amd64" from your build line - sbuild-liberty deals with that [10:10] zioproto, it should pick a trusty schroot [10:10] zioproto, schroot -l might be helpful here [10:11] I have a two lines output [10:11] zioproto, there is another possibility - do you keep your schroots up-to-date? [10:11] chroot:trusty-amd64 [10:11] source:trusty-amd64y [10:11] zioproto, that's fine - no need for -d at all then [10:11] how can I update the chroot ? [10:12] I think this all vm where I am working is at most two weeks old [10:13] zioproto, well it should be ok [10:13] lemme dig out my update script [10:14] zioproto, http://paste.ubuntu.com/23111240/ [10:14] I have that on cron.daily [10:15] zioproto, could you pastebin the entire build log? [10:15] jamespage: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. [10:15] looks like it was upgraded already [10:16] jamespage: yes, do I have to screen scrape it or it is automatically saved in a file ? [10:16] zioproto, its saved to a file locally [10:16] zioproto, we had a bug in dh-python todo with dependency parsing which this looks like [10:16] but I'm not 100% convinced [10:16] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dh-python/1.20140128-1ubuntu8.2 [10:16] as I fixed that [10:17] I guess you want this file right ? [10:17] /home/ubuntu/ubuntu/logs/cinder_7.0.2-0ubuntu1_amd64-20160830-0942.build [10:17] it is a symlink in the folder where I did the build [10:19] jamespage: can you download it from here ? https://www.dropbox.com/s/y8u3m1sxog39ovo/cinder_7.0.2-0ubuntu1_amd64-20160830-0942.build?dl=0 [10:20] zioproto, hmm [10:20] dh-python_1.20140128-1ubuntu8 [10:20] that looks wrong [10:21] how can I update that ? [10:22] zioproto, well the sbuild-liberty wrapper should do that [10:23] ikonia: read the logs, the network manager tries to do a dhcp request [10:23] ikonia: this is my first time reading logs and understanding so sorry it took some time to understand. I am willing to learn and get my hands dirty tough [10:24] jamespage: so I did not do anything wrong :) [10:24] zioproto, no - just trying to figure out why you schroot is not picking that update up - mine is! [10:25] so is our backport-o-matic for the UCA [10:25] grrr [10:25] what is backport-o-matic ? === Geom` is now known as Geom [10:27] Respected all [10:28] I got a really weird problem on upgrading ubuntu 12.04 to 14.04 [10:28] after the upgrade the keyboard an network stopped working. [10:29] I cannot ssh into the system and i cannot type anything [10:29] The keyboard and network work in liveboot [10:30] Also keyboard works untill the grub menu. Once linux starts loading the wired usb keyboard stops working. The leds turn off [10:34] zioproto, its the automated process of backporting openstack related packages to the ubuntu cloud archive [10:34] it uses cloud-archive-utils as well [10:35] infact that's what cloud-archive-utils was written for [10:35] jamespage: how can I get a shell into the chroot using the schroot command to debug [10:35] ? [10:38] got it schroot -c trusty-amd64 [10:39] in the chroot I have this candidate for dh-python Candidate: 1.20140128-1ubuntu8 [10:40] jamespage: I think the problem is in the chroot I have only trusty/main and not trusty-updates/main [10:42] zioproto, yes that's the problem [10:42] zioproto, not quite sure how you managed to create a schroot like that tho [10:42] zioproto, how did you create the schroot? [10:42] following the ubuntu docs :) [10:42] hold on [10:42] I will show you [10:43] I use this script https://github.com/zioproto/ubuntu-cloud-archive-vagrant-vm/blob/xenial/bootstrap.sh [10:44] jamespage: look at this documentation page at step 7, there is SKIP_UPDATES=1 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SimpleSbuild [10:44] jamespage: could that be the problem ? [10:44] zioproto, yeah - I'd drop [10:44] SKIP_UPDATES="1" [10:44] SKIP_PROPOSED="1" [10:45] SKIP_UPDATES stops you getting any updates for packages in 14.04 [10:45] which you need [10:45] OK, I will update my scripts [10:45] proposed is SRU's in test for 16.04 [10:46] I have to grab something to eat now, I will test asap and I will give you feedback. I will try to do it today. [10:46] are you going to be around in IRC for the rest of the day ? [10:47] thanks for the help. talk to you later [11:01] zioproto, yeah I'll be around for another 6 hrs or so [12:05] hi folks [12:08] o/ [12:13] Ussat: how to deal with memory recognize in Ubuntu Server inside ESXi? [12:13] not sure what ya mean [12:13] i want to do ubuntu hot add memory [12:13] https://kb.vmware.com/selfservice/microsites/search.do?language=en_US&cmd=displayKC&externalId=1012764 [12:13] look [12:14] acpi_memhotplug [12:14] I have never hot-added memory in ESXi [12:14] in my experiance never works right [12:14] why wouldn't it work right? [12:14] X86 just isnt up to it imho [12:14] I have never had it not work [12:14] what does x86 have to do with it? [12:14] hot add/remove memory was designed for laptops [12:15] for power savings [12:15] yeah, i'm in x86, but my VMs are 64-bits [12:16] I always down my Linux systems to add mem or cpu or whatever, my AIX systems otoh, I DLPAR flawlessly [12:16] patdk-wk, it surely works better oon all these s390x laptops than on x86 ... :P [12:16] ogra_, never had an issue doing it on linux, to add/remove ram [12:17] I know in theory it works on Power arch, but I have not tried it [12:17] maby will play with that a bit sometime [12:18] and by X86 I dont mean 32 or 64 bit, I mean X86 chipset [12:24] uhum [12:25] Ussat: in Solaris or AIX, hot memory add is flawlessly [12:25] :D [12:25] LuisM, I have not use Solaris in YEARS [12:25] I use AIX daily [12:26] aix > solaris [12:26] ;) [12:26] LuisM, but more and more I am doin all the Linux stuff here [12:26] same here [12:35] hot-add has always worked flawless in linux and ubuntu for me [12:35] dunno what the issue is [12:35] now, when you add memory, linux kernel doesn't enable that memory automatically, so you have to do that, or add a udev rule to do it for you [12:36] SUBSYSTEM=="cpu", ACTION=="add", TEST=="online", ATTR{online}=="0", ATTR{online}="1", RUN+="/usr/bin/logger onlining cpu: $env{DEVPATH}" [12:36] SUBSYSTEM=="memory", ACTION=="add", TEST=="state", ATTR{state}=="offline", ATTR{state}="online", RUN+="/usr/bin/logger onlining memory: $env{DEVPATH}" [12:36] patdk-lap, but in AIX or Solaris its automatic.....thats my point [12:36] and the kernel won't get the notification if you don't have the acpi_memhotplug module loaded [12:36] Ussat, heh? it is automatic here also [12:37] you dlpar memory,or a cpu or a pci slot... [12:37] now, when you add memory, linux kernel doesn't enable that memory automatically, so you have to do that, or add a udev rule to do it for you [12:37] you said it wasnt right there...... [12:37] maybe you mean, enabled [12:37] it's automatically added, it's not automatically enabled [12:37] I mean its automatically added and enabled [12:37] enabling it automatically, can be debated if that is a good idea [12:38] Not much to debate, you add it when you need it. [12:38] Or you have a system that automatically balances based on load [12:38] hmm, I add it to my laptop when I don't need it [12:38] laptop..... [12:38] I don't want to waste power in my laptop, except when I NEED the memory [12:39] ok I am talking real enterprise systems [12:39] this hot-add was designed and created for laptops [12:39] not little laptops [12:39] my laptop has 64gigs ram [12:39] I dont even bother with a *nix on a laptop or desktop [12:39] like I said, little laptop [12:39] your loss [12:39] Not at all [12:40] My enterprise systems have 512G RAM or better [12:40] still, I dunno of any laptops that can have >64gigs ram [12:40] and he was talking about ESXi, not a toy [12:41] no, he was talking about hot-add memory [12:41] that acpi interface was designed by and for laptops [12:41] the fact esxi uses it, doesn't matter [12:41] it's a power savings feature [12:42] No, it really isnt desinged as that, but believe what you eill [12:42] will [12:46] http://www.acpi.info/DOWNLOADS/ACPIspec-2-0a.pdf [12:47] I know what acpi is, and it was not desinged for hot-add memory......that was a later addition [12:47] heh? [12:48] how is a later addition, and being part of the specification matter? [12:48] it's part of the acpi standard [12:48] it doesn't matter if it was in predraft 0.1, or 1.0, or 2.0, or whatever, if it's in there it is a part of it [12:48] believe what you want, you are incorrect [12:49] well, go tell esxi to stop using acpi for hot-add memory [12:49] esxi uses an extension to acpi to accomplish that correctly, and it still has some major issues [12:50] and it can not be solved via software, its a limitation of the X86 chipset [12:53] patdk-wk: so, how to load that module in ubuntu-server if it doesn't exist? :( [12:53] what package do i need to install? [12:53] acpid? [12:54] or just add that udev rule? [12:54] it does exist [12:54] I just posted all the info above [12:54] yeah [12:54] but the module doesn't exist :( [12:54] i'm in 16.04 [12:55] hmm, haven't done 16.04 in a vm yet [12:56] ddellav, jamespage: I have changes coming for ceilometer in newton if you haven't already started those [12:57] coreycb, no - I was looking at keystone [12:57] coreycb, ddellav: did the syncs from exp this am btw [12:57] LuisM, there is no need [12:57] ddellav, jamespage: ah thanks. I'd like to wrap up the remaining non-client updates so that probably got some of them [12:57] it's built in on 16.04, it's not a module now [12:58] so only the udev rules would be needed to make it enabled automatically [12:58] coreycb, keystonemiddleware and auth1 need doing I think [12:58] jamespage, ok [12:58] CONFIG_ACPI_HOTPLUG_MEMORY=y [12:58] patdk-wk: hmmm, great [12:58] jamespage coreycb im working on keystonemiddleware atm [12:58] where did you see that? [12:58] ddellav, sweet thanks [12:58] in the kernel config file in /boot [13:03] coreycb, ddellav: seeing some crypto breaks in glance and barbican [13:03] something may be broken outside the direct dep chain I think [13:03] as xenial does not show the same issues [13:05] patdk-wk: config-4.4.0-21-generic [13:05] rox [13:05] I was doing a for to change state of memory to "online" [13:06] in /sys/devices/system/memory/memory/*/state [13:06] ;) [13:07] coreycb, urgh [13:07] https://launchpadlibrarian.net/281726807/buildlog_ubuntu-yakkety-amd64.python-oslo.db_4.12.0-1_BUILDING.txt.gz [13:07] our switch in default dialect in sqlalchemy bites us at long last [13:08] jamespage, I think I've patched tests like that before because of the switch [13:09] jamespage, but I wonder if we should revisit that switch [13:12] jamespage, python-mysqldb now uses the mysqlclient fork so it has py3 support [13:12] grag [13:14] jamespage, anyway too late for this cycle [13:28] jamespage, for the openssl errors, I wonder if this has something to do with it: https://github.com/openstack/requirements/blob/master/upper-constraints.txt#L95 [13:28] jamespage, we're at 1.5 in yakkety-proposed === JanC_ is now known as JanC [13:35] coreycb, I think so - I see google hits on other projects seeing similar issues [13:35] that said that was an autogenerated upper-constraints that fixed that at 1.4 [13:51] jamespage: I confirm that removing SKIP_UPDATES and SKIP_PROPOSED lines fixed the problem [13:51] jamespage, coreycb: any change to fix the documentation on this page ? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SimpleSbuild [13:53] zioproto, personally I'd be hesitant to update that one since it's not mine, is there a bug? [13:53] jamespage: can you recap the bug about python-dh ? [13:54] zioproto, I've updated the wiki [13:54] coreycb: you replied by email that is metter to push multiple commits when contributing, while james suggested git commit amend and force push :) Both are fine to me. Just agree on one that makes everyone happy :) [13:54] made it more opininated 'might -> will' [13:54] and added a comment why [13:55] zioproto, I prefer a single commit per change - if you need to tweak a commit, its still a single commit [13:55] not multiple imho [13:56] zioproto, for little changes like a typo I'm ok with a new commit, but ideally a clean history is what we want to see [13:57] I see the point. So if I am working with a Yakketi schroot I can safely put SKIP_UPDATES=1. But trusty is old so I need the updates [13:57] OK guys, I hope my contributions will get cleaner with time [14:00] zioproto, tbh I run all my chroorts with updates enabled [14:00] so that at the point of release its a no-op to switch [14:00] how can i setup nis with a preseeded configuration? [14:01] what does it mean if after selecting the kernel in grub. The screen goes black [14:01] talk to you later, I have another meeting, 1 hour away from keyboard :) thanks for the help! === seg_ is now known as seg [14:10] patdk-wk: your udev rule didn't work :( [14:15] oh? maybe something more has changed in 4.4 kernel [14:16] can i get an archive admin promote python-yaql and python-monascaclient to main please? There were approved MIR's but no promotion: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python-yaql/+bug/1586069 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python-monascaclient/+bug/1590836 [14:16] Launchpad bug 1586069 in python-yaql (Ubuntu) "[MIR] python-yaql" [Undecided,Fix released] [14:16] Launchpad bug 1590836 in python-monascaclient (Ubuntu) "[MIR] python-monascaclient" [Undecided,Fix released] [14:17] they are needed for heat [14:21] coreycb, oslo.db fixed up [14:22] ddellav, that might be better asked in -devel === alexisb-afk is now known as alexisb [14:23] jamespage ack [14:23] ddellav, its possible that if the heat version that required those new deps was not in main at the time of promotion, they would have been demoted again [14:24] coreycb heh, keystonemiddleware is already at 4.9, it's just unreleased [14:24] jamespage that's what coreycb was saying, yea [14:27] ddellav, that makes it easier, I wonder if it didn't get release for a reason though. jamespage may know. [14:28] ddellav, when I looked last week depends in experimental where not quite up-to-date [14:28] coreycb looks like it was updated 5 days ago [14:28] I pushed as much of my local work as I could [14:28] as everything else would catchup [14:31] jamespage same deal with keystoneauth1? [14:31] yah [14:31] gah I need to fixup python-hacking still [14:31] yikes [14:38] ddellav, can you note that in bug 1579670 that you tested designate-dashboard and it's working in yakkety? be good to let them know. [14:38] bug 1579670 in designate-dashboard (Ubuntu) "Designate dashboard 2.0.0-1 throws exception in Xenial" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1579670 [14:39] coreycb done [14:53] coreycb, ddellav: python-hacking munged to work again [14:53] its not submittable upstream atm [14:54] jamespage, that's good, so we're sorted out for yakkety? [14:54] coreycb, yah [14:54] basically its a 'skipall' [14:54] but tbh I'm less worried about hacking tests being skipped in distro [14:55] jamespage, I agree [15:01] jamespage, coreycb: i have patches for ceilometer test suite. Am I allowed to just upload it and commit/push to https://git.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-server-dev/ubuntu/+source/ceilometer ? or should I raise a merge proposal against it? [15:01] what's the drive-by contribution workflow for server team? [15:02] xnox, oh I think coreycb was working those as well? [15:02] heh [15:03] xnox, contributions are always welcome :) [15:03] xnox, was it etc updates or something else? [15:03] coreycb, what is "etc" ? [15:04] i'm looking at ADT test suite failure for s390x, which looks like missing depends in the debian/tests/control and/or packages themself. [15:04] e.g. python-libvirt is now needed to start the services and test that they are available. [15:04] however not sure how come things succeed on other arches for that test, as i'm failing to see how that would ever work =) [15:04] i'll send a merge proposal to discuss =) [15:05] xnox, there was just some config file updates that I was working on. ah, ADT fixes would be a welcome addition, I wasn't working on that. [15:05] xnox, thanks [15:23] coreycb, jamespage : I am going offline, let me know with launchpad comments if I can improve my patch. Thank you [15:26] coreycb, ceilometer-agent-ipmi fails to start and in the journal it tells me that EmptyPollstersList: No valid pollsters can be loaded with the startup parameters polling-namespaces and pollster-list. [15:26] is there a way to have some "dummy" ipmi pollster-list? or what is missing to get that going? [15:26] note that i'm inside a lxd container for adt tests on s390x, rather than bare metal =/ [15:26] * xnox ponders if ipmi is a thing on s390x [15:27] looking at https://code.launchpad.net/~bladernr/checkbox/no-ipmi-s390x/+merge/291946 i'm guessing no [15:39] coreycb, i am pondering of how useful ceilometer-agent-ipmi is on s390x [15:39] given the lack of ipmi on that platform. [16:58] is there need for putting 'NEED_IDMAPD=yes' in /etc/default/nfs-common now a redundant one (in 14.04 onwards) as I can see with just nfs-kernel-server installed - that rpc.imapd is running [16:58] (sorry for repost, i realised this chan was a better bet) === iberezovskiy_ is now known as iberezovskiy_off [17:03] xnox, I agree if s390x doesn't have ipmi support then ceilometer-agent-ipmi isn't going to be of much use [17:04] coreycb, i'll skip testing that in the autopkgtest, but keep everything else in place for now. [17:04] xnox, ok sounds good [17:06] ddellav, are you done with the oslo's too? [17:07] coreycb: not yet, I'll post with packages for your review in a bit [17:09] ddellav, ok I can take some and work on them this afternoon if you haven't started on them. let me know. [17:16] Anyone know of a tool to multithread encryption? Trying to zfs send over ssh and ssh's encryption is a bottleneck [17:24] cscf: known problem - using mbuffer will help, but won't give you encryption [17:25] cscf: so I guess it all depends on whether you're on a provate network or are using zfs send over the open internet [17:25] RoyK, I thought surely there must be a tool that AES-encrypts in a pipeline in parallel, like pigz for gzip [17:25] RoyK, Internal network but a big one, encryption preferred [17:26] cscf: ok - not sure - sorry [17:33] ddellav, did you do neutron-lib? if not I'll do that. neutron needs it. [18:21] ddellav, neutron-lib uploaded, that should at least fix some of the current neutron failures [18:34] coreycb, jamespage: please review https://code.launchpad.net/~xnox/ubuntu/+source/ceilometer/+git/ceilometer/+merge/304406 [18:35] darn, i need to rebase i think [18:36] xnox, sorry, yeah I pushed some changes under you [18:37] coreycb, repushing, lp should regenerate in a second or two [18:41] coreycb, looking good now. [18:41] xnox, ok looking [18:48] xnox, pushed, thanks! ok if that doesn't get uploaded for another week? we are expecting upstream to release beta 3 this week or early next week. [18:50] coreycb, that's all good. [18:50] coreycb, hopefully next upload with actually migrate to yakkety from -proposed. [18:51] coreycb, at the moment yakkety release is still at 6.0.0 and b2 is stuck in yakkety-proposed, but my patches should fix that. [18:54] xnox, let me upload then so we can make sure it migrates from proposed. it's a little tricky ,but manageable, because we've been pushing updates to keep up with upstream tip. === JanC is now known as Guest64850 === JanC_ is now known as JanC [21:53] i have an intersting problem to solve. I just upgraded the server form ubuntu 12.04 to 14.04. As soon as the upgrade got over, which went smooth, [21:53] After the reboot the keyboard and mouse stopped working. [21:54] After the reboot the keyboard and *network stopped working [21:54] so i neither i can ssh into the server nor can i type anything. [21:54] What can i do?? [22:16] ajikny: you have physical access to the server to confirm it actually booted? [22:17] yess [22:17] i was in front of it. i see the tty [22:18] i have livebooted and kb works in the live boot and uptil grub [22:18] i have got syslogs. if you are interested [22:20] I (or others) can look at them maybe [22:21] ya sure, ill upload them in a sec and share the link [22:22] http://s000.tinyupload.com/?file_id=43836141207735899929 [22:24] can you use a site that doesn't serve junk ads? [22:24] sorrry [22:24] this is polite :) http://paste.ubuntu.com/ === i- is now known as OverACoder === OverACoder is now known as i- [22:26] I didn't really see any ads :) [22:26] I made the mistake of enabling the site in noscript to try to download the original file [22:26] I never saw the file, just junk.. [22:28] http://paste.ubuntu.com/23113849/ [22:28] ahh much better, thanks ;) [22:29] :) [22:30] it sure looks like the keyboard disconnects and reconnects every minute [22:30] is it a broken KVM switch perhaps? or a broken keyboard? [22:30] there seem to be a lot of mouse connect/disconnects [22:30] broken usb switch? [22:31] the keyboard works very normally in live boot and in grub. [22:31] Sachiru: not sure where you see keyboard disconnects? [22:31] sarnold: I mean [22:32] JanC: `you're right they're all mice; I just assumed it'd be a keyboard on a server and didn't read it all that closely [22:33] ajikny: is that a an USB keyboard? [22:33] yes [22:37] there seems to be an USB keyboard directly attached, and one attached to or emulated by an USB KVM switch? [22:37] s/an/a/ [22:37] :P [22:39] There is only one that is attached.. [22:41] I dont follow, Does kernel accept only the emulated kb?? [22:42] it should not [22:43] things can break when a broken keyboard (real or emulated) is attached though [22:43] still wouldn't explain networking, I guess [22:43] Yes, they must be unrelated. [22:45] =https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1313497 Can this be relevent?? [22:45] Launchpad bug 1313497 in linux (Ubuntu) "USB keyboard unresponsive on fresh install" [Undecided,Invalid] [22:46] :) [22:51] hi [22:55] ajikny: did the networking need special drivers that are not part of the default Ubuntu kernel? [22:55] or were not [22:57] also “Aug 30 13:20:01 mail mdadm[1471]: DegradedArray event detected on md device /dev/md/1” [23:01] JanC: no, just confirmed with previous sys admin. on 12.04 The nework ran on the default kernel [23:01] This error must refer to the one disk of raid 1 which is wearing out. . The machine has a softwware raid [23:02] “Aug 30 13:19:58 mail kernel: [ 21.372184] init: failsafe main process (1071) killed by TERM signal” [23:03] not sure where that comes from [23:03] What NAS protocol do you guys recommend for being used as additional storage to one ubuntu computer? [23:04] ajikny: for the keyboard I would suggest trying to use one keyboard/KVM at a time & maybe try a different keyboard too [23:04] and try different USB ports & disconnect all other USB devices [23:05] just to make sure it's not a hardware issue [23:05] maybe try PS/2 :) [23:10] ajikny: did you see my suggestion? [23:10] JanC: I have connected on all ports and have different keyboards, [23:10] yes.. [23:10] i lost connection for a while [23:12] no network card detected in the kernel logs from what I can tell [23:15] danny_: I would use NFS, but that's mostly because Samba needs special options to be able to use filenames that contain "?" and such over SMB/CIFS :) [23:17] JanC, Ok, I was planning on using NFS. Now my only problem is getting write permissions on my pc [23:20] okay.. That is grave [23:21] JanC: if in the live boot i mount the drive and bind /dev /dev/pts/ /proc/ /sys /run ... followed by chroot mount point will my commands run as if i was on host system [23:23] danny_: 'easiest' is to ensure that youv'e got the same userid numbers on both systems [23:25] sarnold, Sorry I'm new to this, what exactly does that mean? Is userid different than username? [23:26] danny_: yes; unix assigns every user a number for their userid, a number for groupid, and numbers for group memberships [23:26] danny_: the names often suffice but NFS uses the numbers; it expects them to be common to all clients and servers [23:26] danny_: in larger installments people may use NIS or NIS+ or LDAP or something similar ot synchronize user accounts across all their machines [23:27] with just two machines it's probably easier to create users with the correct account nubmers from the start, or manually modify them as needed [23:28] sarnold, ok, I gotta eat then I'mma learn all of this [23:28] I just used sshfs for this for a while. Wasn't too bad actually! [23:29] even the torrent client was happy haha. [23:30] trippeh_: ha I figured you'd use xprtrdma :) [23:31] hehe yeah sshfs didnt scale too well to 10G [23:31] topped out at a hair over 2Gbps [23:32] trippeh_: patdk's got some ssh patches he uses for high-throughput ssh.. [23:32] https://www.psc.edu/index.php/hpn-ssh [23:34] yeah, they arent too effective for local stuff, unless you hit cpu limits on the crypto parts [23:35] nowadays just use aesni ;) [23:37] some NAS devices have settings to allow all NFS clients equal access (haven't looked at how exactly they implement this)