[00:11] <thai_> anyone got experiences with openstack on 16.04 multi nodes?
[01:15] <RoyK> thai_: We have a 16-node openstack cluster (that is 16 compute nodes, routers and storage are separte) at work. I think it's till on 14.04. I could ask around if you have a specific question
[03:33] <Zeranoe> I'm setting up a dev lamp server. How should I go about granting permissions for my user and the web server to write to /var/www/html?
[03:39] <Zeranoe> I'm thinking maybe I should make www-data the owner of the group and add my user to that group?
[05:04] <sarnold> Zeranoe: that's one decent way; I dislike the idea that the server may have the ability to write to those files, so I'd also suggest that www-data itself not own those files; either group or world permissions to read them is better, imho
[05:37] <Zeranoe> sarnold: So maybe don't touch own, but add the user to www-data and grant write permissions for groups for /var/www/html ?
[05:38] <Zeranoe> I guess I'm not seeing how that's any different...
[05:40] <sarnold> Zeranoe: I just like to make sure that the web server itself can only write to its log files and database / fpm sockets if you can
[05:40] <Zeranoe> sarnold: Doesn't that cripple a large number of web applications...?
[05:41] <sarnold> Zeranoe: if your apps have to allow uploading stuff, maybe that too :)
[05:42] <Zeranoe> I think a better solution would be to have decently written code so that rouge writes don't happen
[05:47] <sarnold> somehow 'write bug-free code' just never gets to the top of manager's priorities :(
[05:47] <Zeranoe> I hear that
[06:57] <xmj> "write bug-free code" never gets on employee priorities either
[06:57] <xmj> or rather, results
[06:57] <xmj> so why bother
[08:46] <Odd_Bloke> sarnold: hallyn: Thanks. :)
[08:56] <ajikny> tomreyn: there?
[08:56] <ajikny> I have got the kernlog and the syslog
[08:56] <ajikny> from the server
[08:58] <ajikny> I have a weird problem. I upgraded ubuntu server 12.04 LTS to 1.404 LTS.
[08:58] <ajikny> 14.04 LTS
[08:59] <ajikny> as soon as i upgraded the keyboard and network stopped working
[08:59] <ajikny> The keyboard works till we load grub.
[08:59] <ajikny> as soon as the kernel is load the kb stops working
[09:00] <ajikny> funnily enough the kb and network both work in the live boot
[09:01] <ajikny> i have tried installing image-extra-generic, update-usbids, linux-firmware, linux-firmware-nonfree followed by update-initramfs -k all -c
[09:07] <zioproto> Hello. I have a weird problem I am building deb packages for ubuntu trusty, the control file in the deb package is broken. In the depends section some other packages have an extra dash - at the end, and this makes the package impossible to install
[09:07] <zioproto> https://code.launchpad.net/~zioproto/ubuntu/+source/cinder/+git/cinder/+merge/304341
[09:10] <zioproto> anyone had a similar problem before ?
[09:18] <Odd_Bloke> zioproto: Can you paste an example of the problematic file?
[09:19] <zioproto> Odd_Bloke: check the comment here https://code.launchpad.net/~zioproto/ubuntu/+source/cinder/+git/cinder/+merge/304341
[09:19] <zioproto> I pasted the file
[09:20] <Odd_Bloke> zioproto: Oh, apologies.
[09:20] <zioproto> no problem
[09:20] <zioproto> the package where I have the problem is python-cinder
[09:21] <zioproto> di you see that python-novaclient- ? the ending - in the control file brakes the dependencies
[09:22] <Odd_Bloke> zioproto: Yeah, that's strange.
[09:23] <Odd_Bloke> zioproto: How are you building your .dsc?  (And can you paste it?)
[09:23] <zioproto> sure, give me a second
[09:24] <zioproto> here is the dsc http://pastebin.com/2jCg74gu
[09:25] <Odd_Bloke> zioproto: Hmm, not really sure what the problem is I'm afraid.
[09:27] <ajikny_> I have a weird problem. I upgraded ubuntu server 12.04 LTS to 14.04 LTS as soon as i upgraded the keyboard and network stopped working The keyboard works till we load grub. as soon as the kernel is load the kb stops working [14:30] funnily enough the kb and network both work in the live boot i have tried installing image-extra-generic, update-usbid
[09:32] <zioproto> sorry I have to be away from keyboard for 30 mins, I will be back
[09:32] <ikonia> do you see anything in /dev/input
[09:32] <ikonia> do you see anything in the syslog about the network devices being loaded/brought online or failing
[09:33] <ajikny_> ikonia: i get by-id by-path event [0-4] js0 mice mouse0 mouse1
[09:33] <ikonia> where do you get that ?
[09:33] <ajikny_> i have livebooted inot the system
[09:34] <ajikny_> *into
[09:34] <ikonia> thats not really going to help diagnose the problem
[09:34] <ajikny_> i have the chrooted dmesg and sys logs
[09:35] <ikonia> dmesg isn't a file
[09:35] <ajikny_> if it can help
[09:35] <ikonia> it's real time information
[09:35] <ikonia> so thats not going to help getting dmesg from the livecd
[09:35] <ikonia> I assume you have no boot splashes enabled when the system boots
[09:35] <ajikny_> no
[09:35] <ikonia> when the system boots do you see any errors/warnings, especailly around the network
[09:36] <ajikny_> it stops at waiting for network configuration
[09:36] <ajikny_> for 60seconds and then proceeds with boot without full config
[09:36] <ikonia> are you using dhcp ?
[09:36] <ajikny_> no.. static config
[09:37] <ikonia> ok - so the syslog from the system should show it trying to bring up the devices
[09:37] <ikonia> find that in the syslog and see what it's doing with the network
[09:37] <ajikny_> okayyy... hold on
[09:43] <zioproto> Odd_Bloke: I am trying to rebuild the package without my patch to see if I have anyway the problem with the control file
[10:06] <zioproto> Odd_Bloke: James Page from canonical commented on the merge request saying I am maybe hitting a known bug of cloud-archive-utils
[10:06] <zioproto> and yes I am able to reproduce the problem even with the upstream package without my patch
[10:06] <zioproto> jamespage: oh you are here :)
[10:06] <jamespage> zioproto, hey!
[10:07] <jamespage> zioproto, just digging on your problem now
[10:07] <zioproto> jamespage: to push the fixed changelog, should I just commit amend and push force, or you prefer a tree with multiple commits ?
[10:07] <zioproto> jamespage: thank you !
[10:07] <jamespage> zioproto, amend and force push is good for me
[10:08] <jamespage> zioproto, can you confirm your cloud-archive-utils pkg version?
[10:09] <zioproto> jamespage: Installed: 0.1-0~50~ubuntu16.04.1
[10:09] <jamespage> zioproto, ok that's good
[10:09]  * jamespage thinks
[10:09] <zioproto> jamespage: check the merge request page, I added more stuff
[10:10] <zioproto> jamespage: my doubt is, when I use the command sbuild-liberty, then in the chroot what version of could-archive-utils will be used ?
[10:10] <jamespage> zioproto, for reference you can drop "-d trusty-amd64" from your build line - sbuild-liberty deals with that
[10:10] <jamespage> zioproto, it should pick a trusty schroot
[10:10] <jamespage> zioproto, schroot -l might be helpful here
[10:11] <zioproto> I have a two lines output
[10:11] <jamespage> zioproto, there is another possibility - do you keep your schroots up-to-date?
[10:11] <zioproto> chroot:trusty-amd64
[10:11] <zioproto> source:trusty-amd64y
[10:11] <jamespage> zioproto, that's fine - no need for -d at all then
[10:11] <zioproto> how can I update the chroot ?
[10:12] <zioproto> I think this all vm where I am working is at most two weeks old
[10:13] <jamespage> zioproto, well it should be ok
[10:13] <jamespage> lemme dig out my update script
[10:14] <jamespage> zioproto, http://paste.ubuntu.com/23111240/
[10:14] <jamespage> I have that on cron.daily
[10:15] <jamespage> zioproto, could you pastebin the entire build log?
[10:15] <zioproto> jamespage: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[10:15] <zioproto> looks like it was upgraded already
[10:16] <zioproto> jamespage: yes, do I have to screen scrape it or it is automatically saved in a file ?
[10:16] <jamespage> zioproto, its saved to a file locally
[10:16] <jamespage> zioproto, we had a bug in dh-python todo with dependency parsing which this looks like
[10:16] <jamespage> but I'm not 100% convinced
[10:16] <jamespage> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dh-python/1.20140128-1ubuntu8.2
[10:16] <jamespage> as I fixed that
[10:17] <zioproto> I guess you want this file right ?
[10:17] <zioproto> /home/ubuntu/ubuntu/logs/cinder_7.0.2-0ubuntu1_amd64-20160830-0942.build
[10:17] <zioproto> it is a symlink in the folder where I did the build
[10:19] <zioproto> jamespage: can you download it from here ? https://www.dropbox.com/s/y8u3m1sxog39ovo/cinder_7.0.2-0ubuntu1_amd64-20160830-0942.build?dl=0
[10:20] <jamespage> zioproto, hmm
[10:20] <jamespage> dh-python_1.20140128-1ubuntu8
[10:20] <jamespage> that looks wrong
[10:21] <zioproto> how can I update that ?
[10:22] <jamespage> zioproto, well the sbuild-liberty wrapper should do that
[10:23] <ajikny_> ikonia: read the logs, the network manager tries to do a dhcp request
[10:23] <ajikny_> ikonia: this is my first time reading logs and understanding so sorry it took some time to understand. I am willing to learn and get my hands dirty tough
[10:24] <zioproto> jamespage: so I did not do anything wrong :)
[10:24] <jamespage> zioproto, no - just trying to figure out why you schroot is not picking that update up - mine is!
[10:25] <jamespage> so is our backport-o-matic for the UCA
[10:25] <jamespage> grrr
[10:25] <zioproto> what is backport-o-matic ?
[10:27] <ajikny_> Respected all
[10:28] <ajikny_> I got a really weird problem on upgrading ubuntu 12.04 to 14.04
[10:28] <ajikny_> after the upgrade the keyboard an network stopped working.
[10:29] <ajikny_> I cannot ssh into the system and i cannot type anything
[10:29] <ajikny_> The keyboard and network work in liveboot
[10:30] <ajikny_> Also keyboard works untill the grub menu. Once linux starts loading the wired usb keyboard stops working. The leds turn off
[10:34] <jamespage> zioproto, its the automated process of backporting openstack related packages to the ubuntu cloud archive
[10:34] <jamespage> it uses cloud-archive-utils as well
[10:35] <jamespage> infact that's what cloud-archive-utils was written for
[10:35] <zioproto> jamespage: how can I get a shell into the chroot using the schroot command to debug
[10:35] <zioproto> ?
[10:38] <zioproto> got it schroot -c trusty-amd64
[10:39] <zioproto> in the chroot I have this candidate for dh-python Candidate: 1.20140128-1ubuntu8
[10:40] <zioproto> jamespage: I think the problem is in the chroot I have only trusty/main and not trusty-updates/main
[10:42] <jamespage> zioproto, yes that's the problem
[10:42] <jamespage> zioproto, not quite sure how you managed to create a schroot like that tho
[10:42] <jamespage> zioproto, how did you create the schroot?
[10:42] <zioproto> following the ubuntu docs :)
[10:42] <zioproto> hold on
[10:42] <zioproto> I will show you
[10:43] <zioproto> I use this script https://github.com/zioproto/ubuntu-cloud-archive-vagrant-vm/blob/xenial/bootstrap.sh
[10:44] <zioproto> jamespage: look at this documentation page at step 7, there is SKIP_UPDATES=1 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SimpleSbuild
[10:44] <zioproto> jamespage: could that be the problem ?
[10:44] <jamespage> zioproto, yeah - I'd drop
[10:44] <jamespage> SKIP_UPDATES="1"
[10:44] <jamespage> SKIP_PROPOSED="1"
[10:45] <jamespage> SKIP_UPDATES stops you getting any updates for packages in 14.04
[10:45] <jamespage> which you need
[10:45] <zioproto> OK, I will update my scripts
[10:45] <jamespage> proposed is SRU's in test for 16.04
[10:46] <zioproto> I have to grab something to eat now, I will test asap and I will give you feedback. I will try to do it today.
[10:46] <zioproto> are you going to be around in IRC for the rest of the day ?
[10:47] <zioproto> thanks for the help. talk to you later
[11:01] <jamespage> zioproto, yeah I'll be around for another 6 hrs or so
[12:05] <LuisM> hi folks
[12:08] <Ussat> o/
[12:13] <LuisM> Ussat: how to deal with memory recognize in Ubuntu Server inside ESXi?
[12:13] <Ussat> not sure what ya mean
[12:13] <LuisM> i want to do ubuntu hot add memory
[12:13] <LuisM> https://kb.vmware.com/selfservice/microsites/search.do?language=en_US&cmd=displayKC&externalId=1012764
[12:13] <LuisM> look
[12:14] <LuisM> acpi_memhotplug
[12:14] <Ussat> I have never hot-added memory in ESXi
[12:14] <Ussat> in my experiance never works right
[12:14] <patdk-wk> why wouldn't it work right?
[12:14] <Ussat> X86 just isnt up to it imho
[12:14] <patdk-wk> I have never had it not work
[12:14] <patdk-wk> what does x86 have to do with it?
[12:14] <patdk-wk> hot add/remove memory was designed for laptops
[12:15] <patdk-wk> for power savings
[12:15] <LuisM> yeah, i'm in x86, but my VMs are 64-bits
[12:16] <Ussat> I always down my Linux systems to add mem or cpu or whatever, my AIX systems otoh, I DLPAR flawlessly
[12:16] <ogra_> patdk-wk, it surely works better oon all these s390x laptops than on x86 ... :P
[12:16] <patdk-wk> ogra_, never had an issue doing it on linux, to add/remove ram
[12:17] <Ussat> I know in theory it works on Power arch, but I have not tried it
[12:17] <Ussat> maby will play with that a bit sometime
[12:18] <Ussat> and by X86 I dont mean 32 or 64 bit, I mean X86 chipset
[12:24] <LuisM> uhum
[12:25] <LuisM> Ussat: in Solaris or AIX, hot memory add is flawlessly
[12:25] <LuisM> :D
[12:25] <Ussat> LuisM, I have not use Solaris in YEARS
[12:25] <Ussat> I use AIX daily
[12:26] <LuisM> aix > solaris
[12:26] <LuisM> ;)
[12:26] <Ussat> LuisM, but more and more I am doin all the Linux stuff here
[12:26] <LuisM> same here
[12:35] <patdk-wk> hot-add has always worked flawless in linux and ubuntu for me
[12:35] <patdk-wk> dunno what the issue is
[12:35] <patdk-wk> now, when you add memory, linux kernel doesn't enable that memory automatically, so you have to do that, or add a udev rule to do it for you
[12:36] <patdk-wk> SUBSYSTEM=="cpu", ACTION=="add", TEST=="online", ATTR{online}=="0", ATTR{online}="1", RUN+="/usr/bin/logger onlining cpu: $env{DEVPATH}"
[12:36] <patdk-wk> SUBSYSTEM=="memory", ACTION=="add", TEST=="state", ATTR{state}=="offline", ATTR{state}="online", RUN+="/usr/bin/logger onlining memory: $env{DEVPATH}"
[12:36] <Ussat> patdk-lap, but in AIX or Solaris its automatic.....thats my point
[12:36] <patdk-wk> and the kernel won't get the notification if you don't have the acpi_memhotplug module loaded
[12:36] <patdk-wk> Ussat, heh? it is automatic here also
[12:37] <Ussat> you dlpar  memory,or a cpu or a pci slot...
 now, when you add memory, linux kernel doesn't enable that memory automatically, so you have to do that, or add a udev rule to do it for you
[12:37] <Ussat> you said it wasnt right there......
[12:37] <patdk-wk> maybe you mean, enabled
[12:37] <patdk-wk> it's automatically added, it's not automatically enabled
[12:37] <Ussat> I mean its automatically added and enabled
[12:37] <patdk-wk> enabling it automatically, can be debated if that is a good idea
[12:38] <Ussat> Not much to debate, you add it when you need it.
[12:38] <Ussat> Or you have a system that automatically balances based on load
[12:38] <patdk-wk> hmm, I add it to my laptop when I don't need it
[12:38] <Ussat> laptop.....
[12:38] <patdk-wk> I don't want to waste power in my laptop, except when I NEED the memory
[12:39] <Ussat> ok I am talking real enterprise systems
[12:39] <patdk-wk> this hot-add was designed and created for laptops
[12:39] <Ussat> not little laptops
[12:39] <patdk-wk> my laptop has 64gigs ram
[12:39] <Ussat> I dont even bother with a *nix on a laptop or desktop
[12:39] <Ussat> like I said, little laptop
[12:39] <patdk-wk> your loss
[12:39] <Ussat> Not at all
[12:40] <Ussat> My enterprise systems have 512G RAM or better
[12:40] <patdk-wk> still, I dunno of any laptops that can have >64gigs ram
[12:40] <Ussat> and he was talking about ESXi, not a toy
[12:41] <patdk-wk> no, he was talking about hot-add memory
[12:41] <patdk-wk> that acpi interface was designed by and for laptops
[12:41] <patdk-wk> the fact esxi uses it, doesn't matter
[12:41] <patdk-wk> it's a power savings feature
[12:42] <Ussat> No, it really isnt desinged as that, but believe what you eill
[12:42] <Ussat> will
[12:46] <patdk-wk> http://www.acpi.info/DOWNLOADS/ACPIspec-2-0a.pdf
[12:47] <Ussat> I know what acpi is, and it was not desinged for hot-add memory......that was a later addition
[12:47] <patdk-wk> heh?
[12:48] <patdk-wk> how is a later addition, and being part of the specification matter?
[12:48] <patdk-wk> it's part of the acpi standard
[12:48] <patdk-wk> it doesn't matter if it was in predraft 0.1, or 1.0, or 2.0, or whatever, if it's in there it is a part of it
[12:48] <Ussat> believe what you want, you are incorrect
[12:49] <patdk-wk> well, go tell esxi to stop using acpi for hot-add memory
[12:49] <Ussat> esxi uses an extension to acpi to accomplish that correctly, and it still has some major issues
[12:50] <Ussat> and it can not be solved via software, its a limitation of the X86 chipset
[12:53] <LuisM> patdk-wk: so, how to load that module in ubuntu-server if it doesn't exist? :(
[12:53] <LuisM> what package do i need to install?
[12:53] <LuisM> acpid?
[12:54] <LuisM> or just add that udev rule?
[12:54] <patdk-wk> it does exist
[12:54] <patdk-wk> I just posted all the info above
[12:54] <LuisM> yeah
[12:54] <LuisM> but the module doesn't exist :(
[12:54] <LuisM> i'm in 16.04
[12:55] <patdk-wk> hmm, haven't done 16.04 in a vm yet
[12:56] <coreycb> ddellav, jamespage: I have changes coming for ceilometer in newton if you haven't already started those
[12:57] <jamespage> coreycb, no  - I was looking at keystone
[12:57] <jamespage> coreycb, ddellav: did the syncs from exp this am btw
[12:57] <patdk-wk> LuisM, there is no need
[12:57] <coreycb> ddellav, jamespage: ah thanks.  I'd like to wrap up the remaining non-client updates so that probably got some of them
[12:57] <patdk-wk> it's built in on 16.04, it's not a module now
[12:58] <patdk-wk> so only the udev rules would be needed to make it enabled automatically
[12:58] <jamespage> coreycb, keystonemiddleware and auth1 need doing I think
[12:58] <coreycb> jamespage, ok
[12:58] <patdk-wk> CONFIG_ACPI_HOTPLUG_MEMORY=y
[12:58] <LuisM> patdk-wk: hmmm, great
[12:58] <ddellav> jamespage coreycb im working on keystonemiddleware atm
[12:58] <LuisM> where did you see that?
[12:58] <coreycb> ddellav, sweet thanks
[12:58] <patdk-wk> in the kernel config file in /boot
[13:03] <jamespage> coreycb, ddellav: seeing some crypto breaks in glance and barbican
[13:03] <jamespage> something may be broken outside the direct dep chain I think
[13:03] <jamespage> as xenial does not show the same issues
[13:05] <LuisM> patdk-wk: config-4.4.0-21-generic
[13:05] <LuisM> rox
[13:05] <LuisM> I was doing a for to change state of memory to "online"
[13:06] <LuisM> in /sys/devices/system/memory/memory/*/state
[13:06] <LuisM> ;)
[13:07] <jamespage> coreycb, urgh
[13:07] <jamespage> https://launchpadlibrarian.net/281726807/buildlog_ubuntu-yakkety-amd64.python-oslo.db_4.12.0-1_BUILDING.txt.gz
[13:07] <jamespage> our switch in default dialect in sqlalchemy bites us at long last
[13:08] <coreycb> jamespage, I think I've patched tests like that before because of the switch
[13:09] <coreycb> jamespage, but I wonder if we should revisit that switch
[13:12] <coreycb> jamespage, python-mysqldb now uses the mysqlclient fork so it has py3 support
[13:12] <jamespage> grag
[13:14] <coreycb> jamespage, anyway too late for this cycle
[13:28] <coreycb> jamespage, for the openssl errors, I wonder if this has something to do with it: https://github.com/openstack/requirements/blob/master/upper-constraints.txt#L95
[13:28] <coreycb> jamespage, we're at 1.5 in yakkety-proposed
[13:35] <jamespage> coreycb, I think so - I see google hits on other projects seeing similar issues
[13:35] <jamespage> that said that was an autogenerated upper-constraints that fixed that at 1.4
[13:51] <zioproto> jamespage: I confirm that removing SKIP_UPDATES and SKIP_PROPOSED lines fixed the problem
[13:51] <zioproto> jamespage, coreycb: any change to fix the documentation on this page ? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SimpleSbuild
[13:53] <coreycb> zioproto, personally I'd be hesitant to update that one since it's not mine, is there a bug?
[13:53] <zioproto> jamespage: can you recap the bug about python-dh ?
[13:54] <jamespage> zioproto, I've updated the wiki
[13:54] <zioproto> coreycb: you replied by email that is metter to push multiple commits when contributing, while james suggested git commit amend and force push :) Both are fine to me. Just agree on one that makes everyone happy :)
[13:54] <jamespage> made it more opininated 'might -> will'
[13:54] <jamespage> and added a comment why
[13:55] <jamespage> zioproto, I prefer a single commit per change - if you need to tweak a commit, its still a single commit
[13:55] <jamespage> not multiple imho
[13:56] <coreycb> zioproto, for little changes like a typo I'm ok with a new commit, but ideally a clean history is what we want to see
[13:57] <zioproto> I see the point. So if I am working with a Yakketi schroot I can safely put SKIP_UPDATES=1. But trusty is old so I need the updates
[13:57] <zioproto> OK guys, I hope my contributions will get cleaner with time
[14:00] <jamespage> zioproto, tbh I run all my chroorts with updates enabled
[14:00] <jamespage> so that at the point of release its a no-op to switch
[14:00] <blut> how can i setup nis with a preseeded configuration?
[14:01] <Braven> what does it mean if after selecting the kernel in grub. The screen goes black
[14:01] <zioproto> talk to you later, I have another meeting, 1 hour away from keyboard :) thanks for the help!
[14:10] <LuisM> patdk-wk: your udev rule didn't work :(
[14:15] <patdk-wk> oh? maybe something more has changed in 4.4 kernel
[14:16] <ddellav> can i get an archive admin promote python-yaql and python-monascaclient to main please? There were approved MIR's but no promotion: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python-yaql/+bug/1586069 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python-monascaclient/+bug/1590836
[14:17] <ddellav> they are needed for heat
[14:21] <jamespage> coreycb, oslo.db fixed up
[14:22] <jamespage> ddellav, that might be better asked in -devel
[14:23] <ddellav> jamespage ack
[14:23] <jamespage> ddellav, its possible that if the heat version that required those new deps was not in main at the time of promotion, they would have been demoted again
[14:24] <ddellav> coreycb heh, keystonemiddleware is already at 4.9, it's just unreleased
[14:24] <ddellav> jamespage that's what coreycb was saying, yea
[14:27] <coreycb> ddellav, that makes it easier, I wonder if it didn't get release for a reason though.  jamespage may know.
[14:28] <jamespage> ddellav, when I looked last week depends in experimental where not quite up-to-date
[14:28] <ddellav> coreycb looks like it was updated 5 days ago
[14:28] <jamespage> I pushed as much of my local work as I could
[14:28] <jamespage> as everything else would catchup
[14:31] <ddellav> jamespage same deal with keystoneauth1?
[14:31] <jamespage> yah
[14:31] <jamespage> gah I need to fixup python-hacking still
[14:31] <jamespage> yikes
[14:38] <coreycb> ddellav, can you note that in bug 1579670 that you tested designate-dashboard and it's working in yakkety?  be good to let them know.
[14:39] <ddellav> coreycb done
[14:53] <jamespage> coreycb, ddellav: python-hacking munged to work again
[14:53] <jamespage> its not submittable upstream atm
[14:54] <coreycb> jamespage, that's good, so we're sorted out for yakkety?
[14:54] <jamespage> coreycb, yah
[14:54] <jamespage> basically its a 'skipall'
[14:54] <jamespage> but tbh I'm less worried about hacking tests being skipped in distro
[14:55] <coreycb> jamespage, I agree
[15:01] <xnox> jamespage, coreycb: i have patches for ceilometer test suite. Am I allowed to just upload it and commit/push to https://git.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-server-dev/ubuntu/+source/ceilometer ? or should I raise a merge proposal against it?
[15:01] <xnox> what's the drive-by contribution workflow for server team?
[15:02] <jamespage> xnox, oh I think coreycb was working those as well?
[15:02] <xnox> heh
[15:03] <coreycb> xnox, contributions are always welcome :)
[15:03] <coreycb> xnox, was it etc updates or something else?
[15:03] <xnox> coreycb, what is "etc" ?
[15:04] <xnox> i'm looking at ADT test suite failure for s390x, which looks like missing depends in the debian/tests/control and/or packages themself.
[15:04] <xnox> e.g. python-libvirt is now needed to start the services and test that they are available.
[15:04] <xnox> however not sure how come things succeed on other arches for that test, as i'm failing to see how that would ever work =)
[15:04] <xnox> i'll send a merge proposal to discuss =)
[15:05] <coreycb> xnox, there was just some config file updates that I was working on.  ah, ADT fixes would be a welcome addition, I wasn't working on that.
[15:05] <coreycb> xnox, thanks
[15:23] <zioproto> coreycb, jamespage : I am going offline, let me know with launchpad comments if I can improve my patch. Thank you
[15:26] <xnox> coreycb, ceilometer-agent-ipmi fails to start and in the journal it tells me that EmptyPollstersList: No valid pollsters can be loaded with the startup parameters polling-namespaces and pollster-list.
[15:26] <xnox> is there a way to have some "dummy" ipmi pollster-list? or what is missing to get that going?
[15:26] <xnox> note that i'm inside a lxd container for adt tests on s390x, rather than bare metal =/
[15:26]  * xnox ponders if ipmi is a thing on s390x
[15:27] <xnox> looking at https://code.launchpad.net/~bladernr/checkbox/no-ipmi-s390x/+merge/291946 i'm guessing no
[15:39] <xnox> coreycb, i am pondering of how useful ceilometer-agent-ipmi is on s390x
[15:39] <xnox> given the lack of ipmi on that platform.
[16:58] <stevenm> is there need for putting 'NEED_IDMAPD=yes' in /etc/default/nfs-common now a redundant one (in 14.04 onwards) as I can see with just nfs-kernel-server installed - that rpc.imapd is running
[16:58] <stevenm> (sorry for repost, i realised this chan was a better bet)
[17:03] <coreycb> xnox, I agree if s390x doesn't have ipmi support then ceilometer-agent-ipmi isn't going to be of much use
[17:04] <xnox> coreycb, i'll skip testing that in the autopkgtest, but keep everything else in place for now.
[17:04] <coreycb> xnox, ok sounds good
[17:06] <coreycb> ddellav, are you done with the oslo's too?
[17:07] <ddellav> coreycb: not yet, I'll post with packages for your review in a bit
[17:09] <coreycb> ddellav, ok I can take some and work on them this afternoon if you haven't started on them.  let me know.
[17:16] <cscf> Anyone know of a tool to multithread encryption?  Trying to zfs send over ssh and ssh's encryption is a bottleneck
[17:24] <RoyK> cscf: known problem - using mbuffer will help, but won't give you encryption
[17:25] <RoyK> cscf: so I guess it all depends on whether you're on a provate network or are using zfs send over the open internet
[17:25] <cscf> RoyK, I thought surely there must be a tool that AES-encrypts in a pipeline in parallel, like pigz for gzip
[17:25] <cscf> RoyK, Internal network but a big one, encryption preferred
[17:26] <RoyK> cscf: ok - not sure - sorry
[17:33] <coreycb> ddellav, did you do neutron-lib?  if not I'll do that. neutron needs it.
[18:21] <coreycb> ddellav, neutron-lib uploaded, that should at least fix some of the current neutron failures
[18:34] <xnox> coreycb, jamespage: please review https://code.launchpad.net/~xnox/ubuntu/+source/ceilometer/+git/ceilometer/+merge/304406
[18:35] <xnox> darn, i need to rebase i think
[18:36] <coreycb> xnox, sorry, yeah I pushed some changes under you
[18:37] <xnox> coreycb, repushing, lp should regenerate in a second or two
[18:41] <xnox> coreycb, looking good now.
[18:41] <coreycb> xnox, ok looking
[18:48] <coreycb> xnox, pushed, thanks!  ok if that doesn't get uploaded for another week?  we are expecting upstream to release beta 3 this week or early next week.
[18:50] <xnox> coreycb, that's all good.
[18:50] <xnox> coreycb, hopefully next upload with actually migrate to yakkety from -proposed.
[18:51] <xnox> coreycb, at the moment yakkety release is still at 6.0.0 and b2 is stuck in yakkety-proposed, but my patches should fix that.
[18:54] <coreycb> xnox, let me upload then so we can make sure it migrates from proposed.  it's a little tricky ,but manageable, because we've been pushing updates to keep up with upstream tip.
[21:53] <ajikny> i have an intersting problem to solve. I just upgraded the server form ubuntu 12.04 to 14.04. As soon as the upgrade got over, which went smooth,
[21:53] <ajikny> After the reboot the keyboard and mouse stopped working.
[21:54] <ajikny> After the reboot the keyboard and *network stopped working
[21:54] <ajikny> so i neither i can ssh into the server nor can i type anything.
[21:54] <ajikny> What can i do??
[22:16] <JanC> ajikny: you have physical access to the server to confirm it actually booted?
[22:17] <ajikny> yess
[22:17] <ajikny> i was in front of it. i see the tty
[22:18] <ajikny> i have livebooted and kb works in the live boot and uptil grub
[22:18] <ajikny> i have got syslogs. if you are interested
[22:20] <JanC> I (or others) can look at them maybe
[22:21] <ajikny> ya sure, ill upload them in a sec and share the link
[22:22] <ajikny> http://s000.tinyupload.com/?file_id=43836141207735899929
[22:24] <sarnold> can you use a site that doesn't serve junk ads?
[22:24] <ajikny> sorrry
[22:24] <sarnold> this is polite :) http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[22:26] <JanC> I didn't really see any ads  :)
[22:26] <sarnold> I made the mistake of enabling the site in noscript to try to download the original file
[22:26] <sarnold> I never saw the file, just junk..
[22:28] <ajikny> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23113849/
[22:28] <sarnold> ahh much better, thanks ;)
[22:29] <ajikny> :)
[22:30] <sarnold> it sure looks like the keyboard disconnects and reconnects every minute
[22:30] <sarnold> is it a broken KVM switch perhaps? or a broken keyboard?
[22:30] <JanC> there seem to be a lot of mouse connect/disconnects
[22:30] <sarnold> broken usb switch?
[22:31] <ajikny> the keyboard works very normally in live boot and in grub.
[22:31] <JanC> Sachiru: not sure where you see keyboard disconnects?
[22:31] <JanC> sarnold: I mean
[22:32] <sarnold> JanC: `you're right they're all mice; I just assumed it'd be a keyboard on a server and didn't read it all that closely
[22:33] <JanC> ajikny: is that a an USB keyboard?
[22:33] <ajikny> yes
[22:37] <JanC> there seems to be an USB keyboard directly attached, and one attached to or emulated by an USB KVM switch?
[22:37] <RoyK> s/an/a/
[22:37] <RoyK> :P
[22:39] <ajikny> There is only one that is attached..
[22:41] <ajikny> I dont follow, Does kernel accept only the emulated kb??
[22:42] <JanC> it should not
[22:43] <JanC> things can break when a broken keyboard (real or emulated) is attached though
[22:43] <JanC> still wouldn't explain networking, I guess
[22:43] <ajikny> Yes, they must be unrelated.
[22:45] <ajikny> =https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1313497 Can this be relevent??
[22:46] <ajikny> :)
[22:51] <JetNet> hi
[22:55] <JanC> ajikny: did the networking need special drivers that are not part of the default Ubuntu kernel?
[22:55] <JanC> or were not
[22:57] <JanC> also “Aug 30 13:20:01 mail mdadm[1471]: DegradedArray event detected on md device /dev/md/1”
[23:01] <ajikny> JanC: no, just confirmed with previous sys admin. on 12.04 The nework ran on the default kernel
[23:01] <ajikny> This error must refer to the one disk of raid 1 which is wearing out. . The machine has a softwware raid
[23:02] <JanC> “Aug 30 13:19:58 mail kernel: [   21.372184] init: failsafe main process (1071) killed by TERM signal”
[23:03] <JanC> not sure where that comes from
[23:03] <danny_> What NAS protocol do you guys recommend for being used as additional storage to one ubuntu computer?
[23:04] <JanC> ajikny: for the keyboard I would suggest trying to use one keyboard/KVM at a time & maybe try a different keyboard too
[23:04] <JanC> and try different USB ports & disconnect all other USB devices
[23:05] <JanC> just to make sure it's not a hardware issue
[23:05] <JanC> maybe try PS/2  :)
[23:10] <JanC> ajikny: did you see my suggestion?
[23:10] <ajikny> JanC: I have connected on all ports and have different keyboards,
[23:10] <ajikny> yes..
[23:10] <ajikny> i lost connection for a while
[23:12] <JanC> no network card detected in the kernel logs from what I can tell
[23:15] <JanC> danny_: I would use NFS, but that's mostly because Samba needs special options to be able to use filenames that contain "?" and such over SMB/CIFS  :)
[23:17] <danny_> JanC, Ok, I was planning on using NFS.  Now my only problem is getting write permissions on my pc
[23:20] <ajikny> okay.. That is grave
[23:21] <ajikny> JanC: if in the live boot i mount the drive and bind /dev /dev/pts/ /proc/ /sys /run ... followed by chroot mount point will my commands run as if i was on host system
[23:23] <sarnold> danny_: 'easiest' is to ensure that youv'e got the same userid numbers on both systems
[23:25] <danny_> sarnold, Sorry I'm new to this, what exactly does that mean?  Is userid different than username?
[23:26] <sarnold> danny_: yes; unix assigns every user a number for their userid, a number for groupid, and numbers for group memberships
[23:26] <sarnold> danny_: the names often suffice but NFS uses the numbers; it expects them to be common to all clients and servers
[23:26] <sarnold> danny_: in larger installments people may use NIS or NIS+ or LDAP or something similar ot synchronize user accounts across all their machines
[23:27] <sarnold> with just two machines it's probably easier to create users with the correct account nubmers from the start, or manually modify them as needed
[23:28] <danny_> sarnold, ok, I gotta eat then I'mma learn all of this
[23:28] <trippeh_> I just used sshfs for this for a while. Wasn't too bad actually!
[23:29] <trippeh_> even the torrent client was happy haha.
[23:30] <sarnold> trippeh_: ha I figured you'd use xprtrdma :)
[23:31] <trippeh_> hehe yeah sshfs didnt scale too well to 10G
[23:31] <trippeh_> topped out at a hair over 2Gbps
[23:32] <sarnold> trippeh_: patdk's got some ssh patches he uses for high-throughput ssh..
[23:32] <sarnold> https://www.psc.edu/index.php/hpn-ssh
[23:34] <trippeh_> yeah, they arent too effective for local stuff, unless you hit cpu limits on the crypto parts
[23:35] <trippeh_> nowadays just use aesni ;)
[23:37] <JanC> some NAS devices have settings to allow all NFS clients equal access (haven't looked at how exactly they implement this)