[00:07] <transhuman_>  so I guess I learned a new trick if the version of a package is something...something.something...ubuntu.....deb and you have a package version conflict...try the ones in debian cause they have short names
[00:08] <OerHeks> That would be an awesome trick, to make a frankstein-ubuntu
[00:09] <transhuman_> yes but it just got me out of a mess with gstreamer http://www.andrews-corner.org/ubuntu/mplayer.html with libocs and ocs dev
[00:10] <CodFection> I love ubuntu repository
[00:10] <CodFection> anything I want is there :)
[00:10] <CodFection> like it.
[00:10] <transhuman_> worked like a charm actually got it installed! Yipppeee!
[00:10] <TXRoadkill> Yes, the Software Center in Unity is wonderful
[00:11] <CodFection> the only reason why I would not switch to arch is repo
[00:11] <CodFection> they have AUR which is untrusted. ubuntu repos are trusted, right?
[00:12] <mjayk> :)
[00:13] <OerHeks> transhuman_, i don't see where short debian names are involved ?
[00:13] <CinnamonRickRoll> Hey, does anybody know if its possible to change the unity window manager?
[00:14] <transhuman_> OerHeks, the names of the packages as labed during  the install included ubuntu in name so I installed the debian versions of those to non system critical packages which were the same except the last part of the file didnt have ubuntu as registered with the package manager
[00:16] <CodFection> what would be the best way if I want the latest software on ubuntu?
[00:16] <CodFection> do I need to compile it my self or is there any other way?
[00:20] <OerHeks> latest software .. care about dependencies and other services that might not do what you want to
[00:20] <OerHeks> best would be waiting for updates.
[00:21] <CodFection> thanks OerHeks
[00:21] <CodFection> so I have to just install it from official repos through apt get right?
[00:22] <OerHeks> Yes, you *can* build things, or find a trusted PPA .. 3then you should know what you do and howto reverse things
[00:23] <CodFection> hmm ok
[00:23] <abu_shawarib> Hello there
[00:24] <abu_shawarib> Can anyone reproduce this bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/1542733
[00:28] <Dodge> I am seeking help with version 16.04. I tried to upgrade to 16.04.1, but the upgrade stalled. I rebooted, but now get a blank screen with the curser mid left hand of screen. What can I do to retreive the data from the installation before reinstalling??
[00:28] <elisa87> hey how can I solve this issue? http://pastebin.com/YBRV08ss
[00:30] <lambordath9> f
[00:32] <abu_shawarib> Dodge: if you want to reinstall you can use live usb and copy your stuff to it
[00:33] <Dodge> I tried using a live usb, but it would not show or read the other installation
[00:35] <Bashing-om> elisa87: PPA ? holding the versions elevated from that of the repo ? what returns ' apt-cache policy init-system-helpers lsb-base ' ?
[00:35] <abu_shawarib> can't find storage device in file manger?
[00:35] <screename> yo
[00:36] <screename> So, This comp is just sitting at ACPI Controller IRQ 9 when i try to boot ubuntu
[00:36] <screename> off usb
[00:36] <elisa87> Bashing-om: http://pastebin.com/zmL7J9YE
[00:37] <Guest90646> Sorry guys, noob question here. I downloaded ubuntu and I followed the steps to put it into an usb (using rufus) however when I try to boot from the usb a message appears saying no OS was found, what should I do. Should I give my specs?
[00:37] <screename> how are you booting from usb?
[00:38] <screename> I mean what did you create to make the usb bootable
[00:38] <Guest90646> I followed the steps from the ubuntu website (redirected from the subreddit)
[00:39] <Guest90646> I used rufus
[00:39] <screename> Well, a few things. You can try going into bios and looking for the option to allow booting off of a usb.
[00:39] <screename> Rufus has never worked for me with linux
[00:39] <screename> Try YUMI
[00:39] <screename> one sec ill get a link
[00:39] <screename> http://www.pendrivelinux.com/
[00:40] <Guest90646> I know my laptop is able to boot from usb cause I installed windows that way
[00:40] <screename> sorry this is the dl page http://www.pendrivelinux.com/yumi-multiboot-usb-creator/
[00:40] <screename> Im having a problem like that
[00:40] <abu_shawarib> maybe there's an option to launch efi file in the bios?
[00:40] <screename> im guessing you have UEFI so what you can do. I think.. is extract the ISO to a fat32 drive and boot from EFI then find the efi file in the usb
[00:41] <screename> it might find it for you
[00:41] <Guest90646> thanks, I'll try with yumi now. Also, is it possible to delete windows from my pc, I just want to use ubuntu
[00:41] <screename> yea you can wipe it from the ubuntu install
[00:41] <screename> just delete the partition
[00:41] <screename> backup your data tho
[00:42] <screename> You really probably can just extract the iso to a usb and boot from the efi file if you have UEFI support
[00:42] <Guest90646> There's only thrash in the laptop, it is really old and I am don't need anything from it.
[00:42] <Guest90646> Should I still backup?
[00:42] <screename> you dont have to
[00:42] <screename> if you have like docs or pics you dont want to loose ya
[00:43] <Bashing-om> !info docker-engine
[00:44] <Bashing-om> !info docker-engine trusty
[00:44] <gshmu> Ubuntu 16.04.1 4.4.0-34 after wake from suspend sametimes http://img.vim-cn.com/e6/8338d7f4442a10580349511e3127887bceec24.png
[00:44] <Bashing-om> elisa87: seems docker-engine is not a ubuntu package . what is it's origin ?
[00:44] <TXRoadkill> my Dell P4 still won't wake from screen sleep under 16.04 :/
[00:45] <TXRoadkill> My Inspiron 1525 doesn't have the issue
[00:45] <TXRoadkill> heard it was something with old Nvidea (sp?) cards
[00:45] <screename> hey thats what i have
[00:46] <screename> Nvidia SPIT
[00:46] <elisa87> can you please help me with this? http://pastebin.com/2Xqrrs47
[00:46] <screename> have you rebooted?
[00:47] <screename> idk never used docker so im useless there
[00:47] <Guest90646> Like, I downloaded from the ubuntu dl page, but the file that I think is suppose to be the image is 'Disc Image File' and yumi is not opening it since its not an .iso
[00:47] <screename> try sudo docker -d
[00:47] <screename> whats the file? .img
[00:48] <Bashing-om> !info docker
[00:48] <Dodge> an anyone help me with the issue I posted at 10:28 please
[00:48] <screename> Download the iso from http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop
[00:49] <Guest90646> yeah
[00:49] <Bashing-om> !info docker trusty
[00:49] <Guest90646> .img
[00:50] <Tin_man> Dodge, times are all local, my 10:28 was 9 hours ago..
[00:50] <screename> Guest90646, id download the ISO from the ubuntu website
[00:51] <Dodge>  I am seeking help with version 16.04. I tried to upgrade to 16.04.1, but the upgrade stalled. I rebooted, but now get a blank screen with the curser mid left hand of screen. What can I do to retreive the data from the installation before reinstalling??
[00:52] <Tin_man> dodge your data? try to save it?
[00:52] <Bashing-om> elisa87: Where did you get that version of docker  ? Maybe can remove it and install from the repository ?
[00:52] <Dodge> I have a back up, but it is not fully current
[00:52] <Guest90646> I followed the guide from ubuntu website. Where can I find the iso?
[00:53] <Tin_man> do you have a live ubuntu disk you can boot?
[00:53] <azuulzarate> hi
[00:53] <azuulzarate> ahre
[00:53] <Dodge> I did that but it didnt recognise the other instal
[00:53] <Tin_man> does it see you drive? and folders?
[00:54] <Tin_man> your*
[00:54] <Dodge> not any of it
[00:54] <Bashing-om> Dodge: Are you sure you need to re-install ? Can you not boot to console ( crl+alt+F1 ) at the login screen ? or boot to terminal from grub ?
[00:54] <Tin_man> bummer
[00:54] <azuulzarate> solo hablaningles :v no enrtender nah
[00:55] <Dodge> tried that, and it shows as 16.04.1 and asks for login which I obviosly dont have
[00:56] <bruce_dev> hey guys. having an issue for over a day now. I'm using HeidiSQL and cannot figure out how to login to mysql via remote access
[00:56] <azuulzarate>  hey guys. having an issue for over a day now. I'm using HeidiSQL and cannot figure out how to login to mysql via remote access
[00:56] <bruce_dev> I do tcp/ip > IP of my server > root > root password
[00:56] <bruce_dev> and it says
[00:57] <bruce_dev> Can't connect to mysql server on IP ADDRESS
[01:15] <feneco> any recommendations on a program launcher? something like spotlight/alfred?
[01:17] <matiasleidemer> server thecode51.irc.slack.com
[01:18] <home> hi
[01:22] <prettyinmauve> http://www.renegadebroadcasting.com/truth-hertz-toxic-products-toxic-bible-8-29-16/
[01:22] <Bray90820> k1l: Thanks one of the links you sent me seems to boot ubuntu
[01:22] <_VXx> ess_
[01:22] <_VXx> [21:22:15] [ cliluw          ] [ Gigglemesh      ] [ Laurenceb      ] [ OpenSorce      ] [ subthalamus     ] [ ztane           ]   │ Agent_Smith_
[01:22] <_VXx> [21:22:15] [ clobrano        ] [ giraffe         ] [ lauri          ] [ or4n           ] [ sudormrf        ] [ zw              ]   │ AgentClank
[01:22] <_VXx> sorry
[01:23] <OerHeks> prettyinmauve, please don't spam on #freenode
[01:24] <prettyinmauve> OerHeks, It's an excellent broadcast.
[01:24] <prettyinmauve> Highly recommended.
[01:24] <OerHeks> !ot | prettyinmauve you know the rules
[01:24] <Bray90820> Question: is there a way to copy a working wifi driver from 14.04 to a 16.04 live USB?
[01:25] <OerHeks> Bray90820, sure, softwarecenter gives that option, or see !offline
[01:25] <OerHeks> !offline
[01:25] <screename> so this computer just sits at ACPI controller when loading pci devices when i try to boot off a linux usb
[01:26] <screename> It loads PCI devices and gets to ACPI and sits, for hours
[01:26] <screename> I have tried everything other than a bios update, Which i can not for the life of me find
[01:27] <pusty> screename: bios
[01:27] <Bray90820> OerHeks: Just to make sure were talking about the right thing I have 14.04 ISO that has working wifi and a 16.04 Iso that does not have working wifi I just wanna copy the wifi drives from the 14.04 iso to the 16.04 iso
[01:27] <pusty> Bray90820: backport
[01:27] <Bray90820> pusty: what do you mean?
[01:27] <OerHeks> there are a few open driver on the iso AFAIK, the rest comes from the internet.
[01:28] <Bray90820> But can I transfer the driver from ISO to ISO?
[01:28] <pusty> 16.04 is a disease
[01:29] <OerHeks> not sure what driver you talk about, Bray90820, i think those are available in 16.04 too
[01:29] <pusty> Bray90820: enable other in software update
[01:29] <Bray90820> OerHeks: it's a midfield version of 14.04 with the correct drivers
[01:31] <OerHeks> Bray90820, this all does not make sense to me, sorry
[01:31] <screename> idk what happened there
[01:32] <Bray90820> OerHeks: I have a midfield version of 14.04 with wifi work and I am installing 16.04 but the wifi isn't working so can I transfer the working wifi driver from the modified 14.94 to sock 16,04 so wifi will work?
[01:32] <Polarcraft> tomreyn, I don't know if you are still here or not, but I fixed the delivering of the emails but I don't know how I would log into imap/smtp connections.
[01:33] <OerHeks> i have no clue what midfield is,  stock drivers are also available in 16.04. so if you made custom drivers, say so.
[01:33] <Bray90820> Sorry I meant modified
[01:33] <Bray90820> Does anyone else understand what I mean?
[01:35] <fione> hello.
[01:35] <OerHeks> custom build are build against a kernelversion, so i guess no, use the same howto to build them on 16.04/4.4 kernel ?
[01:36] <pusty> Bray90820: you can enable other repositiriez in software update.
[01:36] <ghislain> allo every one...  I have downloaded and installed Ubuntu-Mate (from a torent).  Are there any things I need to do after the installation ?
[01:36] <Bray90820> pusty: I don't have wifi so no I can't
[01:36] <pusty> Bray90820: enable them. Refresh then update
[01:36] <fione> I want to ask about the installation of genymotion. This phrase in the installation guide "./genymotion-<version>_<arch>.bin -d <Genymotion installer path>", what is Genymotion installer path?
[01:36] <Bray90820> pusty: I can't I don't have wifi
[01:36] <ghislain> i have off course installed the upgrades...
[01:37] <pusty> Bray90820: how you get the iso
[01:37] <Bray90820> I downloaded it from another computer
[01:38] <Bray90820> Maybe if I can get a deb of ndiswrapper  from somewhere that might work
[01:38] <pusty> Bray90820: download latest version that works. Then try bistro upgrade
[01:40] <Bray90820> Maybe some knows where I can get a deb of ndiswrapper?
[01:43] <screename> so the only place I can find offering a bios update is BIOSAgent which seems like a scam
[01:44] <screename> im totally not paying for a bios update
[01:46] <Hydr0p0nX> screename: what kind of computer are you trying to get a bios update for ?
[01:46] <screenname> im about to try a chinese bios update
[01:46] <screenname> its a NFORCE 570 SLITA v5.1 Mobo
[01:47] <Hydr0p0nX> this one http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813135026 ?
[01:47] <screenname> yep
[01:47] <screenname> http://www.ecs.com.tw/ECSWebSite/Product/Product_Detail.aspx?DetailID=678&MenuID=16&LanID=0
[01:48] <ghislain> allo everyone.  I have installed ubuntu-MATE, from the torrent,  and the creation an iso image.  Afterwards, I downloaded the updates.
[01:48] <screenname> thats the manufacture im guessing
[01:48] <screenname> couldnt download the global bios update, so i tried the chinese one
[01:48] <ghislain> Are there any things to do, after the instatllation ?
[01:48] <Nani_Dragon> I am having issues with xorg, it crashed on me last night. Where should I start?
[01:48] <screenname> its telling me OnBoard Bios Not AWARD bios
[01:48] <screenname> which is total bs
[01:48] <screenname> BIOS Version/Date	Phoenix Technologies, LTD 6.00 PG, 10/20/2006
[01:49] <screenname> System Model	AWRDACPI
[01:49] <Hydr0p0nX> screename: phoenix != award
[01:49] <screenname> not equal to?
[01:49] <screenname> but it pops up and says AWARD bios!
[01:49] <screenname> Phoenix Tech - AWARD BIOS LTD 6.0
[01:50] <Hydr0p0nX> maybe a bug in their update utiity then ?
[01:50] <screenname> thats what i figured
[01:50] <screenname> but I need a darn update
[01:51] <Hydr0p0nX> well, that board is pretty old
[01:51] <screenname> I want to use linux on this old system
[01:51] <screenname> yea ik
[01:51] <cfhowlett> ghislain, enable firewall  install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[01:51] <dli> the audio keeps falling back to analog output from HDMI after sleep. How can I make pulseaudio to use HDMI whenever available?
[01:52] <Hydr0p0nX> screename: I don't see any reason it wouldn't ... what's happening ?
[01:52] <screenname> It hangs at ACPI controller for hours when I boot from usb.
[01:53] <ghislain> thank you cfhowlett...  do I have to instal codec packages?   if yes, which one?    I use  VLC a lot to watch movies, and tv series
[01:53] <Hydr0p0nX> boot from cd/dvd ?
[01:53] <screenname> it loads up PCI devices, gets to ACPI controller and hangs
[01:53] <screenname> both CD and USB
[01:53] <cfhowlett> ghislain, sudo apt install ubuntu-restricted-extras             should get you all the codecs you are likely to use
[01:53] <Nani_Dragon> can anyone help me troubleshoot xorg?
[01:54] <screenname> I am able to boot into a windows usb
[01:54] <cfhowlett> !ufw | ghislain,
[01:54] <screenname> from some reason it hates linux
[01:54] <Hydr0p0nX> screename: try checking the bios for a "enable support for legacy usb devices" and disable if it's there
[01:54] <screenname> Enabled it
[01:54] <screenname> ohh
[01:55] <screenname> disable it??
[01:55] <screenname> Ill give it a shot and let you know
[01:55] <Hydr0p0nX> try that, if it doesn't work, you may need to disable acpi in the bootloader
[01:56] <daemon55> anybody know how to start my laptop from flickering on battery?
[01:56] <screename> moment of truth
[01:56] <daemon55> stop
[01:56] <daemon55> *
[01:56] <screename> Still hanging but ill give it a few to see if it pushes through
[01:57] <screename> bootloader?
[01:57] <Hydr0p0nX> screename: some people had to add acpi=off nolapic to the grub boot commandline
[01:57] <screename> How do i do that
[01:58] <screename> im guessin its in the usbs ubuntu files?
[01:58] <Hydr0p0nX> on the boot screen, when you see the choices to boot the live image, etc.. there's an option to edit the boot command, you'll need to do that, then add those parameters
[01:59] <screename> I cant even get there
[01:59] <screename> It seriously just sits at ACPI I wish I could take a picture to show you guys
[01:59] <screename> ACPI controller*
[01:59] <screename> IRQ 9
[02:00] <Hydr0p0nX> what physical cards do you have plugged in?
[02:02] <screennname> i keep getting booted for some reason
[02:02] <screennname> but yea, It just stalls, I dont see where I would turn off ACPI
[02:03] <abu_shawarib> do you have access to grub?
[02:04] <screennname> nope
[02:04] <cfhowlett> screennname, let's hope there's a simple fix.  md5sum the .iso you downloaded and the USB you made with the .iso
[02:04] <screennname> It seriously just hangs trying to load PCI device
[02:04] <cfhowlett> !md5sum | screennname
[02:05] <screennname> I have tried to use 5 different operating systems
[02:05] <screennname> Debian Fedora Kali Ubuntu and backtrack
[02:05] <screennname> well see
[02:06] <cfhowlett> sounds like you just might have a hidden software incompatibility or setting then
[02:06] <screennname> I found a grub.cfg file
[02:07] <screennname> I know my ISO is legit
[02:07] <cfhowlett> nope.  if you are notting even getting to boot menu, i.e. grub, that's not the issue
[02:07] <screennname> right
[02:08] <cfhowlett> screennname, have you changed any bios settings other than the boot order?
[02:08] <screennname> I have reset the CMOS like 3 times
[02:08] <screennname> 2 times
[02:08] <cfhowlett> ? why?
[02:08] <screennname> Just in case whoever had this thing before me fd with anything
[02:09] <abu_shawarib> what is your device/mobo?
[02:09] <screennname> I loaded basic optimal settings, Tried with legacy enabled & disabled. I tried with IRQ 9 Reserved
[02:09] <screennname> the device is
[02:09] <screennname> this is the mobo http://www.ecs.com.tw/ECSWebSite/Product/Product_Detail.aspx?DetailID=678&MenuID=16&LanID=0
[02:10] <cfhowlett> screennname, note your current settings.  reset them all to defaults and reboot
[02:10] <screennname> Did that like 20 times
[02:10] <screennname> I have never had this much trouble booting a linux os lol
[02:11] <screennname> ill do it again
[02:11] <screennname> gimme one min
[02:12] <cfhowlett> screennname, nah, you already tried repeatedly
[02:14] <screennname> so the one thing that i have never seen in here is OS \ 2
[02:14] <screennname> it says OS Select for DRAM, NON-OS\2
[02:14] <cfhowlett> last attempt: Lubuntu.  it's optimized for legacy hardware which this seems to be.
[02:14] <screennname> or I can set OS\2
[02:14] <screennname> Sounds good to me
[02:14] <cfhowlett> !lubuntu
[02:14] <screennname> ill give it a shot
[02:16] <YankDownUnder> screennname: The CD/DVD drive that you're using - is the lens clean? Is the CD/DVD itself free from fingerprints/dust/crap? => and on that note, the USB you're using - have you double-checked the partition/partition table and made sure it was formatted properly? (Without errors)
[02:16] <screennname> YankDownUnder, Yes sir
[02:16] <screennname> I have booted windows 7 cds and usbs without issues
[02:17] <cfhowlett> screennname, you know, just for fun, try the mini as well
[02:17] <cfhowlett> !minimal
[02:18] <YankDownUnder> screennname: I'm merely trying to point out that something very silly could be the root of all the issues that you're having...kinda been there done that here far too many times - and have developed a particular paranoia pertaining to CD drives, CD's and USB's...
[02:18] <screennname> ill try both
[02:18] <screennname> YankDownUnder, oh i know, deffinitally appretiate it
[02:18] <cfhowlett> !mini
[02:18] <YankDownUnder> screennname: Cheers and donuts.
[02:18] <cfhowlett> ?  "beer and cronuts"!  FTFY
[02:19] <YankDownUnder> cfhowlett: I don't drink, ergo, donuts...preferring coffee over tea...
[02:19] <Guest63251> dear
[02:19] <cfhowlett> YankDownUnder, :0
[02:20] <screennname> Im hoping on lubuntu
[02:20] <screennname> How did WUBI work? Ill do whatever it use to do manually
[02:20] <screennname> if someone know lol
[02:20] <dax> poorly
[02:21] <cfhowlett> screennname, NO do not wubi
[02:21] <Guest63251> lol?
[02:21] <cfhowlett> wubi has been broken for years and it WILL break your ubuntu
[02:21] <screennname> I never had any issues with it
[02:21] <cfhowlett> and it should not be included in the installer at all but ....
[02:21] <screennname> at least when it came with ubuntu
[02:21] <cfhowlett> !wubi
[02:22] <screennname> !install
[02:22] <screennname> well damn
[02:22] <abu_shawarib> screennname: everything I found so far about this problem says that you should test with hhd unplugged and check cmos battery. doesn't seem usefull
[02:22] <screennname> Yea, I tried with the HDD unpluged too
[02:22] <screennname> cmos bat is good, Just cleared it again
[02:23] <screennname> this comp is just redic
[02:23] <screennname> im hoping on lubuntu
[02:25] <abu_shawarib> don't think it's an os problem at this point
[02:25] <cfhowlett> agreed.
[02:29] <PsiKloPx> I have the ports forwarded on my Linksys router to SSH to my server. I can connect from within my local network using my routers external IP address. But I cannot connect from outside the local network. Any ideas to what I'm doing wrong?
[02:29] <scristiano> hello...ive been trying to use ubuntu 16.04 but it freezes out of the blue and I also cant make nvidia work :(
[02:29] <anheru> hello
[02:31] <cfhowlett> scristiano, assuming the 2 are related, try the nomodeset option to temporarily get in and fix your graphics settings.
[02:31] <cfhowlett> !nomodeset
[02:33] <scristiano> i tried that then I get this gigantic 1024x768 screen but I dont know how to fix it. I even tried to install the stock nvidia driver from nvidia itself to no avail
[02:33] <abu_shawarib> scristiano: installing drivers from nvidia is a bad idea.
[02:33] <cfhowlett> !nvidia | sounds like a graphics issue
[02:34] <abu_shawarib> i mean from their website
[02:34] <ScreeName> idk why my network keeps going down
[02:34] <cfhowlett> ScreeName, one issue at a time plz
[02:34] <alextricity25> Does anyone know of a good diagram drawing app for ubuntu?
[02:34] <TXRoadkill> abu_shawarib> scristiano: installing drivers from nvidia is a bad idea. << 14.04 had no problem with my nvidia card.  Something got broken in 16.04
[02:34] <cfhowlett> alextricity25, several.  simple simple more complex
[02:35] <ScreeName> yea no doubt
[02:35] <alextricity25> cfhowlett: I'm just looking for something reliable. A program that doesn't crash often
[02:35] <scristiano> TXRoadkill, i see...ive tried a bunch of different distros and had the same problems :( Im on pcbsd now but it doesnt support all my stuff :/
[02:36] <cfhowlett> alextricity25, dia, libreoffice draw come to mind
[02:36] <abu_shawarib> scristiano: what sources you tried to install the driver from?
[02:36] <alextricity25> cfhowlett: Thanks :) I'll try 'em out.
[02:36] <ScreeName> okay so even i think this is a dumb question. But. It couldnt be the hard disk could it
[02:36] <scristiano> abu_shawarib, first i tried the ones that come with ubuntu
[02:37] <cfhowlett> there are also some less well know ones ; edrawsoft.com for one
[02:37] <scristiano> nv makes the box freeze every time, nvidia legacy 304.xx gives me a black screen and huge sluggishness on he sytem
[02:39] <cfhowlett> and if you do not use the NV drivers?
[02:39] <scristiano> id really like to use ubuntu cuz it looks awesome on my 40" screen but the freezing is getting on my nerves
[02:39] <PsiKloPx> alextricity25: Have you tried Dia?
 TXRoadkill, i see...ive tried a bunch of different distros and had the same problems :( Im on pcbsd now but it doesnt support all my stuff :/ << just saying my old P4 box with nvidia worked fine under 14.04
[02:41] <scristiano> cfhowlett, vesa gives me 1024x78, nv freezes and nvidia gives me a huge black screen
[02:41] <ScreeName> alright, prefered method to make a bootable usb
[02:41] <ScreeName> I have used Unetbootin and YUMI
[02:41] <cfhowlett> from what OS?
[02:41] <ScreeName> Windows my bad
[02:41] <scristiano> ScreeName, i usually go with dd
[02:41] <cfhowlett> !usb
[02:41] <scristiano> never let me down
[02:41] <ScreeName> i cant dd in windows :/
[02:42] <scristiano> oh...netbootin then?
[02:42] <scristiano> *unetbootin
[02:43] <TXRoadkill> Ubuntu 16.04 Black Screen when waking from suspend - http://askubuntu.com/questions/774540/ubuntu-16-04-black-screen-when-waking-from-suspend
[02:43] <TXRoadkill> I never had a problem with 14.04
[02:43] <TXRoadkill> never installed a driver
[02:43] <scristiano> TXRoadkill, I get the black scren soon after login
[02:43] <cfhowlett> TXRoadkill, 14.04 is still supported.  I don't usually recommend dropping back but ...
[02:44] <TXRoadkill> I've just set the Brightness & Lock utility to 'never' for now
[02:44] <TXRoadkill> I'm sure they'll fix it eventually
[02:44] <TXRoadkill> otherwise no major problems with 16.04 on the P4
[02:45] <TXRoadkill> Dell Dimension 8400, btw
[02:46] <alextricity25> PsiKloPx: Re: Dia, I have not tried dia.
[02:46] <ScriptThis> Does anyone know why Terminator terminal emulator would not show colors on terminal but Gnome terminal does?
[02:46] <ghislain> to:  CFHowlett....     thankyou very much  for those 2 web links,  about UFW and iptables.  For both,  I really had absolutely NO ideas that they even existed.   Will re-read all this material, to ensure my system is safe.  Thanks, good niter
[02:47] <cfhowlett> happy2help! ghislain
[02:47] <orangespark> hi
[02:47] <cfhowlett> TXRoadkill, did I read correctly?  8400 from 2004?  yowza!
[02:47] <ghislain> ;)
[02:47] <PsiKloPx> alextricity: it's been a while but Dia worked for my needs as well as Visio.
[02:47] <orangespark> i have trouble with software update
[02:47] <cfhowlett> details orangespark?
[02:48] <orangespark> i am using do-release-upgrade
[02:48] <orangespark> but its showing no release found
[02:48] <cfhowlett> orangespark, what does lsb_release -a tell you?
[02:49] <orangespark> its showing No LSB modules are available. Distributor ID:	Kali
[02:49] <orangespark> i had installed katoolin once
[02:49] <cfhowlett> orangespark, kali is not ubuntu.  not supported here.  ask kali
[02:49] <cfhowlett> !kali | orangespark
[02:49] <orangespark> lisen to me
[02:49] <orangespark> i installed katoolin in ubuntu
[02:50] <cfhowlett> your distributor ID is kali.
[02:50] <orangespark> after that the headers changed to kali
[02:50] <orangespark> but its still ubuntu
[02:50] <orangespark> willy werewolf
[02:50] <orangespark> ubuntu 15.10
[02:51] <orangespark> i removed the katoolin
[02:51] <orangespark> but still it changed my grub
[02:51] <cfhowlett> !eolupgrade | orangespark might work
[02:51] <orangespark> and now its not allowing me to update
[02:51] <ScreeName> ahhhhhh
[02:51] <ScreeName> I killed my drive
[02:51] <jswe> whats the best sftp client at the mo'?
[02:51] <ScreeName> darnit!
[02:52] <cfhowlett> ScreeName, ?
[02:52] <orangespark> what is eol
[02:52] <cfhowlett> end of life
[02:52] <ScreeName> cfhowlett, nvm just partitioned funky
[02:52] <orangespark> how is this gonna help me
[02:52] <cfhowlett> orangespark, 15.10 is end of life.  you need to do an eolupgrade
[02:52] <orangespark> oh
[02:52] <orangespark> so it will work
[02:53] <orangespark> in this kali ubuntu also
[02:53] <cfhowlett> there IS not kali ubuntu. 2 separate distros
[02:54] <ScreeName> kali is based on debian, just like ubuntu
[02:54] <ScreeName> https://www.Kali.org/
[02:54] <OerHeks> and Kali is offtopic, they have their own channel
[02:54] <ScreeName> So I think I made my USB read only
[02:54] <cfhowlett> and yet they are NOT the same!  this is checkers not chess.  for kali support ask KALI.
[02:54] <cfhowlett> ScreeName, that is the usual.
[02:55] <ScreeName> I cant delete the partition it created
[02:55] <ScreeName> now my usb is a 2mb instead of 16gb
[02:55] <orangespark> what are u talking about
[02:55] <orangespark> dude
[02:55] <orangespark> its ubuntu
[02:55] <orangespark> i installed a software to get kali tools'
[02:55] <cfhowlett> ScreeName, you can but you need to use sudo.
[02:55] <ScreeName> cfhowlett,  im in windows
[02:55] <orangespark> which just renamed my ubuntu headers at certain places
[02:56] <ScreeName> orangespark, you can, but why wouldnt you just use kali at that point
[02:56] <OerHeks> orangespark, 15.10 is EOL, so upgrade, and what you do with kali tools, is not supported here
[02:56] <cfhowlett> orangespark, and I already sent you the eolupgrade link - which I am sure you have read ...
[02:56] <orangespark> it still gets its update from ubuntu
[02:56] <ScriptThis> Does anyone know how to retain newlines using logger command?
[02:56] <OerHeks> orangespark, so you have no issues then, good.
[02:56] <cfhowlett> orangespark, end of life = DEAD.  to bring it back to life, use the eolupgrade method
[02:56] <orangespark> okay
[02:57] <ScreeName> cfhowlett, is there a way I can recover this drive in windows?
[02:57] <scristiano> ScreeName, i think ya need a partitioning tool
[02:57] <ScreeName> ill get minitool
[02:57] <cfhowlett> ScreeName, delete the partitions and start over
[03:02] <ScreeName> yay lol
[03:02] <TXRoadkill> cfhowlett> TXRoadkill, did I read correctly?  8400 from 2004?  yowza!  << was thinking 2006, but yeah ;)  Linux does wonders for old PC hardware.  Had it running LXDE in 512MB RAM
[03:02] <cfhowlett> eh?
[03:03] <TXRoadkill> upgraded the RAM to 2.5 and installed Ubuntu
[03:04] <ScreeName> So. What if I hey isnt there an MBR tool for windows that you can add another OS? Ill partition the drive in advance
[03:04] <ScreeName> oops..
[03:05] <sysFailure> has anyone installed tor on their ubuntu system?
[03:05] <cfhowlett> yep.  lubuntu is the stuff for old hardware!
[03:05] <OerHeks> some silly mind got the same thought, ScreeName https://sourceforge.net/projects/grub2win/
[03:06] <cfhowlett> ScreeName, the windows repair utility includes a partitioning tool or ( I think) there is a windows gparted download
[03:06] <cfhowlett> !tor
[03:06] <cfhowlett> sysFailure, please do not "has anyone ..."?  state YOUR issues and details
[03:06] <OerHeks> that would do the same as ubuntu installing grub
[03:06] <ScreeName> I got my drive partitioned
[03:06] <sysFailure> ok, sorry cfhowlett
[03:07] <ScreeName> grub2win looks like it could be something
[03:07] <orangespark> guys still no luck
[03:07] <TXRoadkill> ScreeName> I got my drive partitioned << is that like slang for, the computer kicked my arse?
[03:07] <orangespark> didnt work
[03:07] <ScreeName> TXRoadkill, I mean my usb isnt 2mb anymore lol
[03:08] <orangespark> eol update method didnt work
[03:08] <orangespark> *uograde
[03:08] <orangespark> *upgrade
[03:08] <orangespark> -_-
[03:09] <TXRoadkill> ScreeName >> don't feel bad, my PPC Macs are USB 1 ;)
[03:09] <cfhowlett> orangespark, download the version you need and clean install
[03:09] <cfhowlett> orangespark, also, be advised that mixing distros leads to unpredictable results
[03:10] <ScreeName> EasyBCD thats what i was looking for
[03:10] <orangespark> i didnt do it knowingly
[03:10] <orangespark> i just tried what this software is
[03:11] <orangespark> then i cam to know this is shit
[03:11] <cfhowlett> orangespark, anything that meses with your source files should be considered suspect
[03:11] <orangespark> but updating or upgrading doesnt show anywhere about kali
[03:11] <orangespark> the source.list has the links to willy
[03:12] <orangespark> why is this happening
[03:12] <orangespark> is there no other way
[03:12] <orangespark> other than fresh install
[03:12] <orangespark> becoz i have lots of software installed
[03:12] <johnc4510> J4510cLinux
[03:12] <orangespark> i don t want remove them
[03:12] <johnc4510> meh...sorry
[03:13] <ScreeName> So my idea is to partition 50gb and then install grub to it with EasyBCD
[03:13] <cfhowlett> ScreeName, sounds sane
[03:13] <orangespark> maybe u guys can fix it
[03:13] <orangespark> why is every solution clean install
[03:13] <orangespark> every time
[03:13] <cfhowlett> orangespark, nope.  if eolupgrade doesn't work, clean install
[03:14] <orangespark> u remember cfhwolett right
[03:14] <orangespark> i c=had come here before
[03:14] <orangespark> look
[03:14] <orangespark> my software and updates is not working
[03:14] <orangespark> it doesnt open
[03:14] <orangespark> lets fix that
[03:14] <orangespark> maybe that could help
[03:14] <ianga> good evening everyone. Does anyone here know how to navigate the vagaries of EFI/BIOS booting? I have already scoured the internet but have a particular problem in implementing (Macbook Pro 6,1 with hybrid NVIDIA/Intel graphics card)
[03:15] <orangespark> fresh install is the last wayout
[03:15] <orangespark> come on cfhowlett
[03:15] <orangespark> dont give up
[03:15] <orangespark> there is always a way
[03:15] <orangespark> find that please
[03:15] <OerHeks> orangespark, you don't even run ubuntu.... we can read back
[03:15] <OerHeks> :-D
[03:15] <orangespark> i cannot reinstall every other software
[03:16] <OerHeks> do a fresh ubuntu 16.04 install
[03:16] <orangespark> see guys when u r getting a problem normally we try a lot
[03:16] <orangespark> becoz its ubuntu
[03:16] <cfhowlett> the idea is that the system manager (YOU) will upgrade BEFORE eol ...
[03:16] <cfhowlett> orangespark, ?  let's.  clean install.
[03:16] <cfhowlett> ianga, you might need to ask the mac folk
[03:16] <cfhowlett> !mac | ianga
[03:16] <cfhowlett> orangespark, you messed around with repo stuff that is completely outside of ubuntu.  you waited until the easy upgrade option expired.  adopt better practices in the future. and of course you can reinstall softwawre.
[03:16] <orangespark> anything can be done with sudo
[03:17] <orangespark> look at this as a problem
[03:17] <orangespark> to solve
[03:17] <OerHeks> sudo fix -now -y
[03:17] <OerHeks> no, kali changes too much.
[03:17] <cfhowlett> orangespark, your question was asked and answered.  best of luck
[03:17] <orangespark> i didnt mess up with the ubuntu
[03:17] <orangespark> repo
[03:17] <OerHeks> succes with reinstall orangespark
[03:18] <orangespark> i need to find some new help whose every answer is not fresh install
[03:18] <orangespark> u guys are pathetic
[03:19] <krupke> ianga: search 'rod smith efi'
[03:19] <krupke> may help
[03:21] <cfhowlett> and the trolling begins.  on your way please.
[03:32] <Zeranoe> I'm setting up a dev lamp server. How should I go about granting permissions for my user and the web server to write to /var/www/html?
[03:32] <cfhowlett> Zeranoe, great question for #ubuntu-server channel
[03:34] <dmz> howdy y'all, I recently upgraded from 14.04 to 16.06 and I can't hear sound that comes in from my line-in anymore.  If I edit my audio settings I can see the audio level going up & down as the music comes in but it's not mixing with the speaker out. anyone have any suggestions?
[03:37] <d1n9> ?
[03:45] <circ-user-0Xa9d> can grub menu auto detect other operating systems after it has been installed by its self
[03:45] <cfhowlett> circ-user-0Xa9d, usually but be prepared to run sudo grub-update
[03:47] <circ-user-0Xa9d> i installed it on a single harddrive hooked up and grub on it as well then installed my other harddrives this way i could just use bios to boot into which ever harddrive my grub did only contain ubuntu but now it also has my windows
[03:47] <circ-user-0Xa9d> did that happen because i updated/upgraded ubuntu
[03:48] <cfhowlett> no idea what you just wrote.  try grammar
[03:48] <circ-user-0Xa9d> yea sorry my grammar is bad
[03:49] <cfhowlett> circ-user-0Xa9d, step.  by.  step.  please.   and I'll try
[03:51] <circ-user-0Xa9d> I installed ubuntu on the only hard drive hooked up to my motherboard. I also installed grub on the same hard drive. Then I connected my windows hard drive. When i initially booted grub it only contained ubuntu, but now it has my windows as well.
[03:52] <cfhowlett> circ-user-0Xa9d, got it.  so what is the problem?
[03:52] <circ-user-0Xa9d> I wanted to know how windows was added to the grub menu.
[03:52] <circ-user-0Xa9d> I did not add it.
[03:52] <Zeranoe> circ-user-0Xa9d: Are you using UEFI?
[03:53] <circ-user-0Xa9d> i believe so.
[03:53] <circ-user-0Xa9d> I am new to linux and am just trying to learn.
[03:54] <cfhowlett> circ-user-0Xa9d, updating with new kernels would trigger grub-update which should see the additional OS.
[03:55] <circ-user-0Xa9d> I installed ubuntu 16.04.4 i believe. When i upgraded did i upgrade the kernal?
[03:56] <cfhowlett> circ-user-0Xa9d, you do not have 16.04.4 as current release is 16.04.1
[03:56] <circ-user-0Xa9d> I thought I was off sorry about that.
[03:57] <cfhowlett> circ-user-0Xa9d, open a terminal:  lsb_release -d
[03:58] <TXRoadkill> circ-user-0Xa9d> I installed ubuntu 16.04.4 i believe. When i upgraded did i upgrade the kernal << 16 uses kernal 4
[03:58] <circ-user-0Xa9d> It is 16.04.1 like you said.
[03:59] <cfhowlett> circ-user-0Xa9d, right.  so since 16.04 released there have been about 3 kernel upgrades iirc
[03:59] <TXRoadkill> I went from 14 to 16, that's kernel 3 to 4
[03:59]  * TXRoadkill remembers that kernal was an Amiga thing
[04:03] <circ-user-0Xa9d> where would i look to see information on kernel updates?
[04:04] <cfhowlett> www.unixmen.com/how-to-uninstall-the-old-kernels-in-ubuntu/
[04:05] <cfhowlett> or reboot, in grub select advanced options and you should see the list of kernels
[04:06] <circ-user-0Xa9d> Zeroing out a hard drive at the moment.
[04:07] <circ-user-0Xa9d> That link just sends me to the main page.
[04:09] <cfhowlett> circ-user-0Xa9d, open a terminal: dpkg -l | grep linux-headers*
[04:12] <fadoe> hi
[04:13] <fadoe> I just installed wine and updated my system dunno why my sound is dead
[04:33] <deweydb> vm.overcommit_memory and vm.overcommit_ratio are?
[04:33] <deweydb> oops
[04:33] <deweydb> i mean, how do i check what the current value of vm.overcommit_memory and vm.overcommit_ratio are?
[04:41] <rockstar5> is it possible to run a simple interface (without setting up a network share folder) over wifi which works just like a2dp bluetooth and streams all audio from android device (regardless of which app you run) to ubuntu pc. this is very simple with bluetooth but i want something over wifi
[04:42] <fabiobik> Hi guys! i have a file written in HEX  52 65 70 C3 BA 62 6C 69 63 61. is there any tool to convert it to text?
[04:42] <rypervenche> fabiobik: You want to convert it to ASCII?
[04:42] <fabiobik> comand line tool
[04:43] <cfhowlett> rockstar5, yes.  streaming from device A to device B?  vlc could do that.  don't know about the specific network set up.
[04:43] <rockstar5> my purpose is to just stream everything audio without using files local to an app or a share folder
[04:43] <mjz19910> xxd -ps -r (hexfile)
[04:44] <OerHeks> he is asking in multiple channels, wait for fabiobik to answer :-D
[04:45] <OerHeks> Please continue doing his homework
[04:46] <cfhowlett> what .... oh HECK no!!
[04:46] <TheNH813> I have 4 soundcards. One dosen't show up. lspci sees it, but pavucontrol dosen't. Neither does alsamixer or the Ubuntu sound settings.
[04:46] <rypervenche> Well, homework-doer taught me something new, so everybody wins ;)
[04:46] <mjz19910> What does it show as in lspci?
[04:47] <TheNH813> 02:06.0 Multimedia audio controller: Ensoniq ES1371 / Creative Labs CT2518/ES1373 (rev 09)
[04:48] <TheNH813> The other three sound cards are a UTV007 capture device, the onboard sound, and graphics HDMI.
[04:48] <TheNH813> Those three work
[04:48] <TheNH813> OH yeah, there's two webcams with mics as well
[04:49] <TheNH813> Is that too much IO for ALSA to handle?
[04:49] <cfhowlett> should not matter unless you have all those streams going at once
[04:50] <TheNH813> I only use 3 at a time max.
[04:50] <TheNH813> Never had any stuttering or anything.
[04:51] <TheNH813> Just suddenly disappeared. Hm... I'l check to make sure the firmware is still in /lib/firmware.
[04:51] <TheNH813> If it needs any
[04:52] <OerHeks> ES1371 is listed here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToSetupSoundCards
[04:53] <OerHeks> else here the build instructions from alsa http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix:Module-ens1371
[04:53] <TheNH813> Well, there's my problem. Wonder where it went.
[04:53] <TheNH813> modprobe: FATAL: Module snd-es18xx not found in directory /lib/modules/4.4.0-34-generic
[04:56] <TheNH813> Nevermind, it uses the  snd-es1938
[04:56] <TheNH813> Forcing modprobe to load it fixed the problem
[04:56] <TheNH813> with the -f option
[04:56] <TheNH813> Now, why dosen't it load by default anymore?
[04:56] <cfhowlett> TheNH813, is that persistent?  reboot
[04:57] <TheNH813> I'l try that. BRB
[04:57] <Bray90820> So sometimes when I tried to boot ubuntu live usb to the desktop it doesn't work other times it does
[04:57] <Bray90820> Most of the time it doesn't boot tho
[04:57] <TheNH813> Bray90820: I'v found older AMD hardware to be the issue lots of the time when that happens.
[04:57] <TheNH813> Especially integrated graphics.
[04:57] <TheNH813> ...
[04:57] <TheNH813> BRB now gonna restart
[04:59] <cfhowlett> Bray90820, try lubuntu : old hardware optimized
[04:59] <Bray90820> cfhowlett: it's an intel baytrail tablet
[05:00] <cfhowlett> Bray90820, tablet ... completely outside my range.  perhaps ask #touch??
[05:00] <cfhowlett> !touch
[05:00] <Bray90820> I'm not using ubuntu touch tho
[05:01] <Bray90820> I'm using ubuntu x64
[05:02] <chinaghost> me too
[05:02] <OerHeks> Bray90820, but you fixed it .. so sometimes is not now .. <Bray90820>	k1l: Thanks one of the links you sent me seems to boot ubuntu
[05:03] <Bray90820> Actually with the new usb I made it booted about 1 out of 5 trues
[05:03] <Bray90820> tries
[05:03] <XFZ5> hi
[05:04] <EriC^^> hi
[05:04] <chinaghost> hi
[05:04] <Bray90820> OerHeks: I think it will be ok after I install it
[05:04] <TheNH813> MEh, had to force it to load again after reboot
[05:04] <XFZ5> guys ineed help here
[05:04] <TheNH813> I'l just throw a script into init.d anf forget about it
[05:04] <cfhowlett> !ask | XFZ5,
[05:05] <chinaghost> What's master with your os?
[05:05] <XFZ5> !ask how to install alfa on this system
[05:05] <XFZ5>  how to install alfa on this system
[05:05] <OerHeks> 16.10 alfa ?
[05:05] <OerHeks> !ubuntu+1
[05:06] <chinaghost> 0.0...
[05:06] <OerHeks> the download url is in the topic
[05:06] <XFZ5> im new around here
[05:07] <OerHeks> new and want to run alfa versions, have fun! type: /join #ubuntu+1
[05:07] <cfhowlett> *alpha*
[05:07] <TheNH813> Soundcard problem fixed. Put a script into init.d that load the driver and restarts pulseaudio. Well, that's a hack, but it fixed it.
[05:07] <TheNH813> I'l look into the root cause someday..... maybe,.....
[05:08] <TheNH813> Who am I kidding. I'm too lazy for that. If it works I don't care. XDDD
[05:08] <user_____> hi
[05:08] <TheNH813> Hello
[05:08] <XFZ5> well  u r lazy but im arabic and my english is dumb -_-
[05:08] <msustudent> hi
[05:09] <XFZ5> and i wish to be a good programmer -_-
[05:09] <cfhowlett> XFZ5, please stay on topic: ubuntu support
[05:09] <screenname> So i figured id update you guys and let you know that I got linux to boot on this pos
[05:09] <XFZ5> how
[05:10] <cfhowlett> screedo, language! we strive to be family friendly  :)
[05:10] <TheNH813> Yeah, this chat is for issues with Ubuntu. It's advised to avoid discussing anything not related to that.\
[05:10] <chinaghost> -.-
[05:10] <cfhowlett> XFZ5, you asked about alpha.  alpha is discussed in #ubuntu+1
[05:10] <TheNH813> But, for the record, XFZ5, English is one of the hardest languages to learn.
[05:10] <screenname> I used PowerISO to create a bootable USB-ZIP drive. IDK how YUMI or UNETBOOTIN partition the drive but  yea
[05:11] <screenname> thanks for the support guys, appreciate it!
[05:11] <screenname> keep doing what you do, --peacepeace
[05:11] <cfhowlett> happy2help! screenname
[05:11] <rypervenche> TheNH813: The "correct" way would likely be to do pretty much the same thing but using the modprobe file to load the module.
[05:11] <screenname> :D
[05:11] <TheNH813> Hm.... where is that file located?
[05:12] <TheNH813> Funky BIOS? screenname: Glad you figured it out. I had similar issues before. It's NOT fun. XD
[05:12] <TheNH813> Oh, they're gone.
[05:13] <TheNH813> rypervenche: Ah, you mean modprobe.conf.
[05:13] <TheNH813> I'l check that out then.
[05:14] <rypervenche> TheNH813: Or the modprobe.conf.d directory usually, yes.
[05:14] <TheNH813> Maybe the kernel upgrade a few days back wiped it out. Haven't used the card ina week. Probably been off and didn't notice it
[05:15] <TheNH813> Guess I'l go with modprobe.conf. Modprobe.conf.d dosen't exist.
[05:15] <TheNH813> Oh, nevermind, it's modprobe.d
[05:20] <TheNH813> rypervenche: What's the syntax to load a module? I read the manual but it's not clear. I only remember how to use blacklist.
[05:21] <TheNH813> Is it the install command
[05:23] <rypervenche> TheNH813: Just the module name will suffice.
[05:24] <TheNH813> Ok, thanks
[05:28] <mtcj> Is there a way to get out of the menus sometimes shown on modems and the like when you telnet into the device?
[05:40] <Bray90820> I almost have it I am getting an error tho
[05:40] <Bray90820> the grub-efi-ia32 failed to install
[06:00] <cfhowlett> !ping
[06:02] <mtcj> !foo
[06:03] <mtcj> I am pleasantly surprised
[06:03] <mtcj> Although I see qux is missing.
[06:05] <m0kc> Hello all
[06:06] <m0kc> Anyone know anything about social media marketing?
[06:07] <cfhowlett> m0kc, off-topic in #ubuntu support channel
[06:07] <m0kc> Ah, gotcha lol
[06:08] <m0kc> @cfhowlett any idea what rooms might be better suited for such questions?
[06:09] <cfhowlett>   #ubuntu-offtopic?  but with such a generalized question, you might find it more informative to go straight to the the wikipedia entry
[06:10] <m0kc> drat. ...it's a little more of a web dev question, but about said topic.
[06:10] <m0kc> I'll dig around. Thanks cfhowlett
[06:10] <cfhowlett>  happy2help!
[06:10] <TheNH813> Got a.... unique.... other problem. When I type in nautilus it dosen't search. But as another user or root it does.
[06:11] <TheNH813> What setting did I mess up?
[06:14] <TheNH813> Ah, something in GConf messed up.
[06:14] <TheNH813> Need to correct a key according to the internets.
[06:15] <ten30> so I just did an apt-get update and upgrade after not using this system for months. Now I somehow installed grub2 beta and now I cannot boot into ubuntu.
[06:15] <ten30> can I get some help please?
[06:15] <TheNH813> Hm.... do you have a LiveCD?
[06:15] <TheNH813> Or USB?
[06:16] <ten30> I'm downloading an iso now
[06:16] <ten30> there is no rescue or repair from the grub2 menu?
[06:16] <TheNH813> There is, but it depends what went wrong.
[06:16] <ten30> when I type ls I don't see any kernels or /
[06:17] <ten30> just 3 drives listed
[06:17] <TheNH813> It likely isn't configured right and can't find the root partition, this why it can't boot.
[06:17] <ten30> I also have fde
[06:17] <cfhowlett> ten30, ls -l doesn't list kernels.   dpkg -l | grep linux-headers*
[06:17] <ten30> will that be a problem as well?
[06:17] <TheNH813> System won't boot
[06:17] <TheNH813> They said. Right?
[06:17] <ten30> cfhowlett: I'm in grub2
[06:17] <ten30> I cannot get into my system
[06:18] <cfhowlett> ten30, boot into a terminal
[06:18] <TheNH813> One way to boot into the system is with GRUB4DOS
[06:18] <TheNH813> OR sysylinux
[06:18] <cfhowlett> rescue mode
[06:19] <cfhowlett> !recovery | ten30
[06:20] <ten30> cfhowlett: that is not for grub2
[06:20] <ten30> I accidentally installed grub2
[06:20] <TheNH813> I'd say it's easier to install another bootloader from Puppy Linux.
[06:20] <ten30> now I cannot boot
[06:20] <TheNH813> ten30: Do you have a disk with Puppy Linux on it?
[06:20] <kmodefive> hhttp://www.renegadetribune.com/scott-roberts-reality-check/
[06:20] <cfhowlett> ten30, grub2 is the ubuntu default
[06:20] <ten30> I do not
[06:21] <ten30> well this is not like my old boot loader
[06:21] <ten30> it's different
[06:21] <TheNH813> Do you have any kind of LiveCD/USB?
[06:21] <ten30> aptget installed it
[06:21] <ten30> I didn't install it
[06:21] <cfhowlett> kmodefive, off-topic and rude.  don't spam the channel.  thank you.
[06:21] <ten30> I can't figure this out at all
[06:22] <TheNH813> Do you have a live bootable medium?
[06:22] <TheNH813> You can start the OS with another bootloader, and remove the bad one
[06:22] <TheNH813> Such as at the Ubuntu installation disk boot screen, press ESC to get the boot: prompt.
[06:22] <eoli3n> hi
[06:23] <TheNH813> You could then manually load the kernel, initrd and specify root partition
[06:23] <eoli3n> how to force downloading and keeping, only the current kernel, and the latest ?
[06:23] <TheNH813> like linux /boot/vmlinuz
[06:23] <TheNH813> initrd /boot/initrd.lz
[06:24] <TheNH813> then : append root=/dev/something
[06:24] <TheNH813> To boot into the broke system\
[06:24] <TheNH813> And correct the problems by uninstalling the bad bootloader, and reinstalling a good one.
[06:24] <alkisg> eoli3n: the latest of your selected series will always be there if you just apt upgrade your system. To keep the current one, just apt install it once more, so that it's marked as "manually installed" and never autoremoved.
[06:25] <alkisg> ten30: do you have an ubuntu live cd or usb stick? E.g. the one you installed your system with?
[06:26] <TheNH813> alkisg: That's what I was asking too. XD Well if they do, I left instructions to use SYSLINUX from the LiveCD to manually boot the partition.
[06:26] <TheNH813> Done that a few times before with GRUB4DOS and Syslinux and man is it a real tiem saver
[06:26] <alkisg> TheNH813: yup, I just thought to ask him again because he hasn't answered you
[06:26] <TheNH813> Yeah.
[06:28] <ten30> sorry I'm trying to figure this out
[06:28] <ChickenFryRy> Hey hey does anyone here have experience with something called Gerrit.
[06:28] <ChickenFryRy> I'm trying to set this up and I'm getting an error 400 on my server
[06:29] <TheNH813> ten30: Can you please answer the question: Do you have a LiveDVD/CD/USB? Of Ubuntu or any Linux operating system?
[06:29] <Abe_> what should I use for a file system on an external HDD?
[06:29] <cfhowlett> Abe_, ext4 is the ubuntu default
[06:29] <ten30> yes
[06:29] <TheNH813> Do you know to get into the boot prompt of the disk?
[06:29] <TheNH813> IF you boot it and instead of selecting install, press esc.
[06:30] <ten30> yes
[06:30] <TheNH813> You can use that to boot your operating system if you know where the kernel is at.
[06:30] <Abe_> cfhowlett: I'm just putting files on it. can windows read ext4 external hdd? i'm using ubuntu but i might connect the drive to a windows pc every now and then.
[06:31] <ten30> what about the fde?
[06:31] <TheNH813> fde?
[06:31] <ten30> full disk encryption
[06:31] <TheNH813> Are you using full disk encryption?
[06:31] <ten30> yes
[06:32] <cfhowlett> Abe_, windows does not natively read ext4 IIRC.  you can set it to ntfs, but it will not be as secure as if it were ext4.  also, when booted into windows, fragmentation is likely leading to issues on the ubuntu side.  choose wisely
[06:32] <TheNH813> Oh, that's a tricky one. You'l need to use a install of GRUB on an external device, like a USB.
[06:32] <ten30> I am booting now off dvd drive
[06:32] <ten30> it's slow
[06:33] <TheNH813> DVD drives are always slow.
[06:33] <cfhowlett> of course it is.  it's all loaded in ram.
[06:33] <Abe_> cfhowlett: i think i just use ntfs. ext4 would be nice but not if I need to connect to a windows pc.
[06:33] <TheNH813> tem30: Can you mount the drive after you get to the live Desktop?
[06:33] <TheNH813> Tell me when you can if it works
[06:33] <cfhowlett> Abe_, look for ext4 plugins on windows.  there might be soe
[06:33] <cfhowlett> some
[06:33] <ten30> I don't know yet
[06:34] <ten30> yes
[06:34] <ten30> I see my drives
[06:34] <Abe_> cfhowlett: yes but if i'm on somebody elses pc. i don't want to mess with anything. it should plug and play
[06:34] <ten30> they say encrypted
[06:34] <alkisg> ten30, TheNH813, since the fde is managed by the initramfs, the trick that TheNH813 suggests should still work, as long as you load the initramfs from the hard disk and not from the CD. But in general if you already have a boot loader in your hard disk, you can use that one instead of the live CD's syslinux.
[06:34] <ten30> what am I doing now?
[06:35] <ten30> when I tried to decrypt the drive I encountered a bug
[06:35] <TheNH813> Can you locate where initramfs and vmlinuz for the operating system are?
[06:35] <TheNH813> AKA which partition they are on?
[06:36] <alkisg> E.g. sudo parted -l
[06:37] <ten30> ok I see a luks error
[06:38] <ten30> unrecognised disk label
[06:38] <TheNH813> The boot partition should be unencrypted. Where is the kernel and initrd located?
[06:38] <ten30> Model: Linux device-mapper (crypt) (dm)
[06:38] <Abe_> so i went with ntfs for the compatibility
[06:39] <alkisg> ten30, put the output of `sudo parted -l` to pastebin
[06:40] <alkisg> (or the output of `sudo lsblk --fs`)
[06:42] <ten30> boot appears to be /dev/sdc1
[06:42] <crazyhorse18> right.. i'm going to buy this 8tb hdd.. but it says "Windows PC Drive" available for download / mac os driver available for download.. i'm assuming it'll just work with linux right?
[06:42] <crazyhorse18> it's usb3 external 8tb seagate hdd
[06:43] <ten30> dev/sda1 is EFI system and /dev/sda2 and 3 say linux filesystem
[06:43] <TheNH813> How large are they?
[06:43] <TheNH813> Specifically sda2 and 3
[06:43] <ten30> sda2 is 244M and 3 is 237.8G
[06:44] <ten30> sda1 us 512M
[06:44] <ten30> *is
[06:44] <TheNH813> Can you mount sda2 and check what's inside it?
[06:44] <TheNH813> I think that's what we need to look at.
[06:44] <OerHeks> crazyhorse18, did it say linux?
[06:44] <crazyhorse18> http://www.seagate.com/au/en/consumer/backup/backup-plus-desk/
[06:44] <crazyhorse18> nope
[06:45] <crazyhorse18> it didnt's
[06:45] <cfhowlett> then do not assume
[06:45] <OerHeks> then you answered yourself
[06:45] <TheNH813> ten30: It should be unencrypted and have a boot or grub folder in it?
[06:45] <ten30> dev/sda3 us crypt-luks
[06:45] <ten30> sda2 is ext2
[06:45] <TheNH813> Can you mount /dev/sda2?
[06:45] <ron_> gloups
[06:46] <TheNH813> ten30: If you can, we can reinstall the bootloader.
[06:46] <ten30> sda2 us efi extlinux and grub folders
[06:47] <ten30> and memtests.elf and .bins
[06:47] <ten30> cd grub?
[06:47] <TheNH813> Good! Now we need to run  a few commnds.
[06:47] <ten30> ok
[06:49] <TheNH813> ONe second
[06:49] <ten30> k
[06:49] <TheNH813> Got my screen stuck in 640x480
[06:52] <TheNH813> You still there?
[06:52] <ten30> yes
[06:53] <TheNH813> Okay. So do you know how to manually install grub?
[06:53] <ten30> no
[06:53] <TheNH813> Ok, l tell you.
[06:54] <muskcdn> sdf
[06:54] <muskcdn> sdf
[06:56] <Dynetrekk> hi, I'm changing between 2 keyboard layouts and I want to keep caps lock as a CTRL key
[06:56] <TheNH813> Ok, does the command grub-install exist?
[06:57] <TheNH813> type grub-install --help
[06:57] <TheNH813> If it says help that measn it's working
[06:57] <ten30> yes ok
[06:57] <Hydroxide> Hi everyone. I'm trying to download the right amd64 Ubuntu 16.04 Server image for use in an environment with bad or no Internet. will the default installer image give me access to all the files I might want to install without having to rely on the network after this download, or is there a different media I should grab?
[06:58] <TheNH813> Hydroxide: If you need to install software afterwords, no.
[06:58] <OerHeks> there is no 7 dvd collection, you need internet
[06:58] <TheNH813> ten30: Ok, where is /dev/sda2 mounted?
[06:58] <Hydroxide> TheNH813: does Ubuntu Server offer a different download that includes all the software?
[06:58] <TheNH813> Hydroxide: Not any more.
[06:58] <ten30>  /media/ubuntu/long list of numbers
[06:59] <ten30> I'm in said directory in Terminal
[06:59] <TheNH813> Ok, can you unmount /dev/sda2?
[06:59] <ten30> yes
[06:59] <redvixen> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j17ROeStWHk
[06:59] <Hydroxide> TheNH813, OerHeks: thanks. I will be shipping this to Ethiopia - usually there is internet there, but it is more frequently bad-quality or offline than we people from the developed world would expect :)
[06:59] <TheNH813> ten30: I'd suggest mounting it as /bootrepair or something easy.
[07:00] <ten30> ok 1 sec
[07:00] <OerHeks> Hydroxide, install a mirror on the hdd, so they have all repo's to start with.
[07:01] <ten30> ok
[07:01] <TheNH813> ten30: Ready?
[07:01] <ten30> yes
[07:01] <OerHeks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Debmirror
[07:01] <TheNH813> Did you mount it as /bootrepair?
[07:02] <ten30> yes in /tmp
[07:02] <TheNH813> Type "sudo grub-install /dev/sda --boot-directory=/tmp/bootrepair" without the quotes then.
[07:02] <TheNH813> Tell me if it completes successfully.
[07:03] <Hydroxide> OerHeks: good idea. thanks.
[07:03] <ten30> well it started off well
[07:03] <ten30> got to Installing for i386-pc Platform
[07:04] <ten30> but then warning this GPT partition lavel contains no BIOS Boot Partition
[07:04] <ten30> embedding won't be possible
[07:04] <ten30> GRUB can onluy be installed in this setup by using blocklists
[07:04] <ten30> However, blocklists are UNRELIABLE nd thie use is discouraged.
[07:04] <TheNH813> Dont' continue
[07:05] <TheNH813> Let me search something up. EFI options for grub. BRB
[07:05] <ten30> ok
[07:06] <TheNH813> Copy and paste this command in and tell me what it says:
[07:06] <TheNH813> [ -d /sys/firmware/efi ] && echo "EFI boot on HDD" || echo "Legacy boot on HDD"
[07:06] <TheNH813> Exactly as is is on tha tline.
[07:07] <ten30> EFI boot on HDD
[07:08] <TheNH813> Ok, can you mount /dev/sda1 in /tmp as /tmp/efiboot
[07:08] <ten30> ok
[07:09] <TheNH813> One second, let me make a command
[07:09] <ten30> I have EFI directory
[07:09] <TheNH813> So, there's an EFI directory idside sda1, right?
[07:10] <ten30> yes
[07:10] <tdiesel> hello
[07:12] <ChickenFryRy> Can someone tell me how to fix my error 400 problem with a missing .js file that Chrome is reporting to me when Gerrit hangs on the Loading Gerrit Code Review screen. :/
[07:12] <TheNH813> ten30: Ok, type this command: "sudo grub-install /dev/sda --boot-directory=/tmp/bootrepair --efi-directory=/tmp/efiboot"
[07:13] <steven_> need to give a perminant color when i list my directories, the directories v have default blue color, i wanna change it to yellow, not only if i logged in as root but also when i log in as a user, i need yellow color when i list directories. can anyone help?
[07:14] <tdiesel> Hi steven_
[07:14] <ten30> same error
[07:14] <TheNH813> steven_:efibootmgr --verbose | grep debian
[07:14] <TheNH813> ten30: LEt me think then...
[07:14] <TheNH813> steven_: I meant
[07:15] <ten30> ok
[07:15] <TheNH813> steven_: http://www.linux-sxs.org/housekeeping/lscolors.html
[07:15] <TheNH813> Ok, I have an idea.
[07:15] <TheNH813> unmount /dev/sda1 and /dev/sda2
[07:16] <steven_> @TheNH813 lemme try
[07:16] <ten30> ko
[07:16] <ten30> ok
[07:17] <TheNH813> I found an application that may help. Does the LiveCD have internet access?
[07:18] <ten30> it might but I would have to disconnect
[07:18] <TheNH813> One second then
[07:19] <steven_> need to give a perminant color when i list my directories, the directories v have default blue color, i wanna change it to yellow, not only if i logged in as root but also when i log in as a user, i need yellow color when i list directories in ubuntu linux
[07:20] <TheNH813> Set the value of LS_COLORS in .bashrc
[07:20] <TheNH813> steven_:
[07:20] <TheNH813> ...
[07:20] <TheNH813> ten30: Ok. one mre second, I got the command
[07:21] <TheNH813> Enter the following command:
[07:21] <TheNH813> ten30: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install python-software-properties; sudo apt-add-repository ppa:yannubuntu/boot-repair; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install -y boot-repair; sudo boot-repair
[07:21] <ten30> ok
[07:21] <steven_> i tried to set the values, 33 for yellow, but it changes only for root not all users
[07:21] <TheNH813> ten30: Exactly as I stated there, semicolons and all.
[07:21] <ten30> ok
[07:21] <TheNH813> steven_: Hm.... I'l think about that. Wait till I'm done helping ten30
[07:21] <tdiesel> Hey! Steven_ Where can I find pictures for impress
[07:22] <steven_> okay@the nh813
[07:23] <TheNH813> ten30: Tell me when it's done installing.
[07:23] <TheNH813> And th eprogram loads
[07:23] <tdiesel> Someone help me with the pictures
[07:23] <ducasse> steven_: you need to set the LS_COLORS variable for each user you log in as
[07:24] <tdiesel> what do you say
[07:24] <steven_> @ducasse but my boss need to have a command that change sfor every user :( having a head ache here, tried a lot
[07:25] <ten30> ok installing
[07:25] <TheNH813> ten30: IF it asks anything, press enter.
[07:25] <ten30> ok
[07:26] <TheNH813> steven_: Put it in /etc/profile then.
[07:27] <ten30> ok
[07:27] <ten30> boot:command not found
[07:27] <TheNH813> type sudo boot-repair
[07:28] <ten30> it's asking if I have raid
[07:28] <ten30> I have luks that's all
[07:29] <TheNH813> Hm..... let me check
[07:29] <EriC^^> ten30: what problem are you having?
[07:29] <TheNH813> ten30: I'd say no
[07:30] <ten30> ok
[07:30] <TheNH813> EriC^^: Running boot repair for a botched UEFI secure boot grub
[07:30] <EriC^^> TheNH813: ten30 botched how?
[07:31] <EriC^^> i might be able to help with that stuff
[07:31] <TheNH813> It goes to the rescur eprompt
[07:31] <ten30> Error GPT-Detected Please create a Bios-Boot partition
[07:31] <TheNH813> Hm.....
[07:31] <EriC^^> ten30: is it a fresh install?
[07:31] <ten30> no
[07:31] <EriC^^> ten30: anything happened before it stopped booting?
[07:31] <EriC^^> windows update or something maybe?
[07:32] <ten30> I did apt-get update and upgrade
[07:32] <ten30> haven't used the system in a good while
[07:32] <EriC^^> ten30: what happens right now when you try booting it?
[07:32] <TheNH813> ten30: I have no idea then. Let EriC^^ help you. Sorry I couldn't help, I use EFI, but apparantly your setup is a bit different because of the LUKS.
[07:32] <TheNH813> ten30: Hope you get it fixed.
[07:32] <ten30> I can get in and see my drives
[07:32] <ten30> thanks TheNH813
[07:32] <ten30> I can see all my data
[07:33] <ten30> just can't boot
[07:33] <EriC^^> ten30: what does it show when you try booting?
[07:33] <ten30> grub2 beta
[07:33] <TheNH813> ten30: If you can get you stuff, and don't already have a backup, make sure it's backed up incase worst case scenario you need to reinstall. Have a nice day.
[07:33] <EriC^^> ten30: a grub rescue> prompt?
[07:33] <ten30> thanks. I do have a backup
[07:34] <ten30> I haven't done the rescue prompt part yet
[07:34] <ten30> when I type ls I'm not seeing vmlinuz
[07:34] <EriC^^> oh
[07:34] <ten30> just the drives
[07:34] <ten30> did I hose my kernel?
[07:34] <tdiesel> Hello again
[07:34] <EriC^^> ten30: is it decrypted right now?
[07:34] <ten30> yes
[07:35] <EriC^^> ten30: can you upload a pastebin of sudo parted -l ?
[07:35] <tdiesel> ten30 where can I find pictures for impress
[07:35] <TheNH813> tdiesel: What's impress?
[07:36] <TheNH813> LibreOffice Impress?
[07:36] <ten30> well I would but it's very late now. I'm going to reinstall
[07:36] <tdiesel> yes
[07:36] <TheNH813> tdiesel: Like stock images?
[07:37] <tdiesel> yes
[07:37] <TheNH813> I have an account on a free site. Let me find it.
[07:37] <TheNH813> I'l take this to PM as it's a bit off topic
[07:39] <TheNH813> tdiesel: Guess I can't PM you.
[07:40] <TheNH813> tdiesel: Here's a start. http://www.freeimages.com
[07:42] <TheNH813> tdiesel: Well, I gotta get going, I need to sleep. But that site is pretty decent for stick images.
[07:42] <TheNH813> *stock
[07:42] <TheNH813> ...
[07:43] <TheNH813> PS: Any mods reading this, yes I tried to take the off-topic to a PM but it didn't work.
[07:44] <TheNH813> tdiesel: And https://www.pexels.com. Bye.
[07:44] <ikonia> TheNH813: pm is nothing to do with the channel
[07:45] <TheNH813> Yeah, I know. I just wanted to take a slightly off-topic conversation to pm instead of here. But, it didn't work so I was just apologizing as I posed likns to help someone find stick imaes for LibreOffice Impress.
[07:45] <ikonia> just join #ubuntu-offtopic if you want to chat to some one
[07:46] <ianga> Is it possible to have /boot/EFI and a BIOS compatible partition?
[07:46] <TheNH813> Ah, there's an IRC for that? I'l remember for nest time
[07:46] <TheNH813> ianga: Maybe. Depends if the MB supports EFI from a non-gpt partition
[07:48] <ianga> so how do I tell grub to install onto the BIOS partition instead of the EFI partitioin?
[07:48] <ianga> it won't let me select the appropriate partition
[07:48] <ianga> btw, running Macbook Pro 6,1 (hybrid NVIDIA/Intel)
[07:49] <ianga> and while I can get it to work in EFI mode (NVIDIA only) I don't have access to VTTY nor intel gpu
[07:49] <ianga> and I can't get it to run in STUB since there isn't a proviso for setpci
[07:50] <analogmi1d_> Hi guys, I tried to run do-release-upgrade on my vps to update to the latest ubuntu. Somehow it got stuck add a ncurses screen asking me whether to auto-restart services (libssl) and after that it went back to prompt. now when I try to run do-release-upgrade again it gives me an error on libapt-pkg.so.5.0: cannot open shared object. Any ideas on how to proceed?
[07:56] <Exagone313> analogmi1d_: what do you mean by running again?
[07:56] <Exagone313> you just had to keep openssh service
[08:03] <Bray90820> So I have ubuntu installed on a UEFI machine but after grub loads it hangs at a black screen it finally boots if I reboot like 10 times
[08:04] <Bray90820> 32bit UEFI tablet
[08:06] <EriC^^> Bray90820: did you try removing "quiet splash" from grub?
[08:06] <Bray90820> Will try that now
[08:06] <Bray90820> Should I replace it with anything or just remove i.e.?
[08:06] <Bray90820> *It
[08:06] <EriC^^> Bray90820: no, just remove and see what it hangs on
[08:06] <Bray90820> Ok
[08:07] <analogmi1d_> Exagone313: I don't my upgrade has been done
[08:07] <analogmi1d_> in the libssl screen I should have chosen yes/no, but instead, I ended up in my console
[08:08] <analogmi1d_> without having selected yes/no option in libssl
[08:10] <ELLIOTTCABLE> o7 all
[08:11] <ELLIOTTCABLE> I want to extract PIDs from `lsof`, and I'm using `awk`; but I want to discard the first line
[08:11] <Bray90820> EriC^^: Same thing after the purple grub screen it hangs on a black screen with the backlight on
[08:11] <ELLIOTTCABLE> lsof -i tcp:5858 | awk '{print $2}' is a start; but I need to discard the first line (headers)
[08:11] <ikonia> ELLIOTTCABLE: try #bash channel
[08:11] <ELLIOTTCABLE> <3
[08:12] <EriC^^> Bray90820: did you try nomodeset?
[08:12] <EriC^^> ELLIOTTCABLE: you could use | tail -n +2 or something between them as a easy fix
[08:13] <ELLIOTTCABLE> ooooo pretty
[08:13] <ELLIOTTCABLE> lsof -i tcp:5858 | tail -n+2 | awk '{print $2}' | xargs kill -9
[08:13] <ELLIOTTCABLE> perfect
[08:13] <Bray90820> EriC^^: if it boots once every like 10 times would nomodeset be the issue?
[08:13] <ELLIOTTCABLE> thanks!
[08:14] <EriC^^> ELLIOTTCABLE: no problem
[08:14] <EriC^^> Bray90820: not sure really, that is kind of odd, it's worth a try though
[08:14] <EriC^^> usually the black screen issue is a graphics driver problem
[08:14] <Bray90820> EriC^^: Replace "Quit Splash" with nomodeset?
[08:14] <EriC^^> Bray90820: yeah
[08:15] <Bray90820> EriC^^: It also happened with the Live CD
[08:16] <EriC^^> Bray90820: did you click to update while installing?
[08:16] <Bray90820> I did not
[08:17] <Netek> I am looking at creating a python script that will be triggered by PHP.  The python script allows creation of rtmp streams but I would like to create a panel type site.  Now the python script has to be run as sudo, are there best approaches for this in terms of security?
[08:17] <EriC^^> maybe updating might help, when it does boot, or if the live cd doesn't do it as often, you can update the install from it
[08:19] <Netek> I am looking at sudo helper.  if I was to set a sudo account as follows  ---    sudo_account ALL=(www-data) NOPASSWD: /home/user/pythonscript.py
[08:20] <Netek> does this allow all root functions of the script or only things that are within the set directory?
[08:20] <geirha> Netek: it allows sudo_account to run /home/user/pythonscript.py as user www-data without requiring a password
[08:20] <EriC^^> Netek: it allows any file that has that path to run that file as root
[08:21] <Bray90820> EriC^^: what does nomodeset really even do
[08:21] <geirha> it does not allow running it as root ...
[08:21] <EriC^^> Bray90820: something about the kernel modesetting, i'm not entirely sure :)
[08:21] <Netek> geirha and EriC^^ what I mean was, if the script contains I dont know, sudo mkdir /var/www/vhost/site  would this still be executed with this setup?
[08:22] <EriC^^> geirha: oh ok
[08:22] <Netek> geirha?
[08:22] <geirha> Netek: if www-data is allowed to run mkdir as root
[08:22] <Netek> geirha hmm, ok.  I think I will need to think of another way
[08:23] <geirha> (which I would recommend against giving it)
[08:23] <frodox> What is the best safe way to mount NFS storage on boot?
[08:24] <Netek> geirha any recommendations on how to get this securely done?
[08:25] <Ben64> i wouldn't get www-data any sudo access at all, it specifically is set to run as not root because of security
[08:25] <geirha> Netek: Allow the script to be run as root, have the script run everything with sudo -u www-data, except the things that need root
[08:25] <geirha> Netek: And make sure the script is only editable by root
[08:25] <uebera||> Hi. After restarting an Ubuntu 16.04.1 machine today, I found that the /var/run/mysqld/ directory where mysqld.sock is supposed to live (which is referenced, e.g., in /etc/mysql/debian.cnf) did not exist (anymore?), thus the DB node would not come up. After (re)creating it manually, everything worked--but where is this supposed to be created in the first place?
[08:25] <Netek> geirha ok, this is a start.  I will keep on researching :) thank you for your input
[08:26] <Ben64> not even sure why your script needs to be run as root
[08:26] <DaX_> hello everyone
[08:27] <DaX_> could someone explain me how to run python?
[08:27] <DaX_> i installed it
[08:27] <Guest38544> did make and make test
[08:27] <HappyLoaf> /usr/bin/env python
[08:27] <Guest38544> but can't run it
[08:27] <ikonia> you shouldn't be doing "make"
[08:27] <ikonia> as that is compiling
[08:27] <Bomber4Chats_> sorry, I'm back
[08:28] <uebera||> DaX_: What happens if you type "python" on the command line?
[08:28] <Bomber4Chats_> so for some reason, I have the variable $ANDROID_HOME set and it works, but I cannot run the program android
[08:28] <Bomber4Chats_> It used to work before
[08:28] <Bomber4Chats_> now it doesn't
[08:29] <Ben64> Bomber4Chats_: can you explain what you're doing, what you want to accomplish
[08:29] <Guest38544> thanks
[08:29] <Guest38544> it works
[08:31] <Bray90820> EriC^^: nomodeset seems to do it
[08:32] <Bray90820> I also have s kernel patch that might work better
[08:33] <EriC^^> Bray90820: cool
[08:33] <Bomber4Chats_> Ben64:  I want to run the android program
[08:33] <Bomber4Chats_> in my Android SDK directory
[08:34] <Bomber4Chats_> the SDK directory is set in my $ANDROID_HOME
[08:35] <Bomber4Chats_> I was once able to simply run "android"
 not even sure why your script needs to be run as root  <--- was this referring to me?  I just noticed the message now
[08:37] <mcphail> Bomber4Chats_: what is the output of "which android || echo not found"?
[08:38] <andreyv_> Hello. How do I install a package as "automatically installed" with apt-get? So that it gets removed when "apt-get autoremove" is run.
[08:38] <Bomber4Chats_>   /media/bomber/Data/Android/Sdk/tools/android
[08:38] <Bomber4Chats_> wait..
[08:38] <Bomber4Chats_> OK, this was in a new terminal
[08:38] <mcphail> Bomber4Chats_: and is that the correct and current path to the android program?
[08:38] <ducasse> andreyv_: apt-mark auto packagename
[08:39] <Bomber4Chats_> yes yes, that happened in a new terminal
[08:39] <mcphail> Bomber4Chats_: and what happens if you type "android" in that terminal?
[08:39] <dingd1n9> hello everyone, how to set TAB to 4 spaces  in vi (not vim)
[08:39] <Ben64> Netek: yes
[08:40] <Bomber4Chats_> mcphail: it works in the new terminal, there are certain terminals it doesn't work. BRB with specifics
[08:40] <andreyv_> ducasse: Thanks. Can I also do it in one step with apt-get? Like   sudo apt-get install --magic-option xyz
[08:41] <Bomber4Chats_> OK, I think there was some case that upon startup the terminal was somehow unable to run my android command...
[08:41] <Netek> Ben64 I guess the only other option would be to give www-data access to the required directories/files?
[08:41] <Bomber4Chats_> can I please learn how to reset the terminal with bashrc?
[08:41] <ikonia> reset the terminal ?
[08:41] <Ben64> Netek: what does it do that needs extra permissions
[08:41] <Bomber4Chats_> (or reset bashrc - I'm really not good with the terminology, I just know of the existence of the files and their use)
[08:41] <ikonia> Bomber4Chats_: what do you actually want to achieve ?
[08:42] <Bomber4Chats_> make sure that my terminal has all the environment variables set, based on the values in ~/.bashrc
[08:42] <ikonia> Bomber4Chats_: that will happen when you open a new terminal
[08:42] <ikonia> or source the file in the current terminal
[08:42] <Bomber4Chats_> and in case I suspect a terminal needs to have the bashrc reset, then to reset that terminal
[08:42] <mcphail> Bomber4Chats_: if you have changed something in bashrc, the shell running in the terminal will not see that unless it is reloaded. You can run ". ~/.bashrc" or simply close and reopen the terminal
[08:42] <ducasse> andreyv_: not that i know of. a package is usually marked as manually installed when you use apt-get to install it.
[08:42] <ikonia> Bomber4Chats_: it would never need resetting
[08:42] <Bomber4Chats_> ikonia: sure, but without openning a new terminal
[08:43] <ikonia> Bomber4Chats_: just source the file
[08:43] <Bomber4Chats_> mcphail: that was it
[08:43] <Bomber4Chats_> thank you
[08:43] <Bomber4Chats_> ". ~/.bashrc"
[08:43] <Netek> Ben64 well its new with me, and most of the commands that I have manually used in the past was always run with sudo.  This therefore gave me the impression that it would require root access to run
[08:45] <andreyv_> ducasse: Thanks
[08:45] <Netek> Ben64 also when adding new vhosts nginx rtmp needs to be reloaded also, does this not require root access to do this?
[08:46] <ozmage> ubuntu 16.10 is already using systemd only ?
[08:47] <ducasse> andreyv_: you could create a script, though, and run that instead.
[08:47] <ozmage> who can tell me
[08:47] <ozmage> ?
[08:47] <hateball> ozmage: #ubuntu+1
[08:47] <ozmage> ok
[08:48] <giri> help! my ctrl key is not working .for pressing ctrl we use alt+ctrl.. how to correct this error [ubuntu 16.04 lts]
[08:54] <anonV> Yo anyone knows why the sound go crazy noisy when using VMware?
[08:58] <mokl> hi, I'm trying to use a different window manager in 16.04 but neither the .xinitrc/.xsession method nor the custom x session method seems to work, any ideas?
[08:59] <MacroMan> Just trying to do a simple if in bash, but getting "[]: command not found".
[08:59] <MacroMan> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23110935/
[09:02] <ajikny_> I have a weird problem. I upgraded ubuntu server 12.04 LTS to 14.04 LTS as soon as i upgraded the keyboard and network stopped working The keyboard works till we load grub. as soon as the kernel is load the kb stops working [14:30] funnily enough the kb and network both work in the live boot i have tried installing image-extra-generic, update-usbid
[09:03] <Ben64> MacroMan: missing ; on line 3
[09:03] <joelio> MacroMan: you need to learn to check if var exists or has value? Either way whatever you've written is wrong, you need to equate it to something. (check -z)
[09:03] <joelio> also, go to the right channel ;)
[09:04] <ajikny_> any help will be greatly appreciated
[09:08] <MacroMan> joelio, According to http://tldp.org/LDP/Bash-Beginners-Guide/html/sect_07_01.html I can just do `if [string]` to test for non-zero length.
[09:08] <MacroMan> I'll head over the #bash anyway
[09:09] <joelio> MacroMan: also, spaces...
[09:09] <MacroMan> joelio, spaces?
[09:09] <jeboydennis> Hey, I am trying to use Ubuntu 16.04 after installing it succesfully. I have a AMD R9 390 video card and I used Ubuntu versions that support fglrx previously succesfully. Now that fglrx is no longer supported all I get is a black screen if I boot without nomodeset.
[09:10] <jeboydennis> Any ideas of how I can fix this?
[09:10] <Dirkos> I have a "CER" and "CRL" file. How can i instlal this on ubuntu?
[09:10] <joelio> MacroMan: yea, spaces.. ["$thing"] is wrong [ "$thing" ]
[09:10] <MacroMan> joelio, Ah ok. Didn't realise spacing was important there.
[09:11] <MacroMan> joelio, Great, working now thanks.
[09:12] <joelio> personally I'd check it's not null, rather than just existing as a variable
[09:12] <joelio> but not sure what else you're doing..
[09:13] <MacroMan> joelio, A script to email me the contents of the file if it's not blank.
[09:20] <ajikny> any body had problem with keyboard working after upgrade from 12.04 to 14.04 ?? server??
[09:21] <cfhowlett> ajikny, for an actual useful response, avoid "anyone else..." and post YOUR details and YOUR issues.
[09:22] <ajikny> cfhowlett: I have a weird problem. I upgraded ubuntu server 12.04 LTS to 14.04 LTS as soon as i upgraded the keyboard and network stopped working The keyboard works till we load grub. as soon as the kernel is load the kb stops working [14:30] funnily enough the kb and network both work in the live boot i have tried installing image-extra-generic, update-usbid
[09:24] <cfhowlett> ajikny, keyboard and network should not be related ... is this a bluetooth KB
[09:24] <ajikny> cfhowlett: no its a wired usb keyboard
[09:25] <ajikny> cfhowlett: I agree they must not be related. But since network stopeed i cannot ssh into the server. and cannot enter any command
[09:25] <cfhowlett> punt: take this to #ubuntu-server   ajikny
[09:28] <ajikny> cfhowlett: i will. thanku... I am really on time crunch here.
[09:33] <nikolam> where to put option on USB flashed drive (prepared form ISO with dd), so I can have terminal SERIAL access to GRUB on boot?
[09:34] <nikolam> I would be content to have sshd enabled by default on USB image. Do I have to use server Image for that instead?
[09:34] <nikolam> so when it boots from Live USB, I can connect to it with SSH
[09:35] <ceegee> hi
[09:38] <yacc__> Just wondering, the standard Ubuntu 16.04 unity install has no animated screen savers, right?
[09:39] <backbox> hi al
[09:39] <backbox> all
[09:39] <dingd1n9> hi
[09:40] <Tims_Tech> hi
[09:40] <ikonia> yacc__: animated screen savers are dead in most distros
[09:40] <ikonia> black screen / power off is the norm now
[09:42] <yacc__> ikonia, and I did not complain for years either, because my default of never turning it off worked well for me.
[09:43] <yacc__> ikonia, but seems like my new display has a tendency to screen burn :(
[09:43] <ikonia> then install a screen saver
[09:43] <ikonia> or make sure it powers off after 30 minutes
[09:43] <ikonia> or blank screen
[09:43] <ikonia> nothing to burn thne
[09:43] <ikonia> then
[09:45] <Smoht> hey guys, I'm looking for some linux hardware. In particular I need antennas for my desktop, bluetooth and wifi. Do you have anys suggestion?
[09:45] <ikonia> you need antennas ?
[09:46] <OerHeks> linux-antennas?
[09:46] <ikonia> just look at the hardware compatability info for linux kernel versions in your distro
[09:46] <ikonia> and make sure you buy one of those that has native support
[09:46] <ikonia> wifi you'll struggle to beat intel
[09:46] <cfhowlett> I have only ever used an antenna when I was ... borrowing ... someone else's wifi.
[09:46] <OerHeks> there are wifi and combo antennas, i would ask in ##hardware
[09:47] <joelio> I think everyone will have used an aerial with a piece of radio hardware, just whether they were internal/external and the amunt dB gain..
[09:48] <Smoht> you guys are confusing me, thanks
[09:49] <ducasse> Smoht: in short - get intel, avoid realtek
[09:49] <joelio> Smoht: do you literally mean antennas, or the whole piecve of hardware?
[09:50] <Smoht> It's for domestic use
[09:51] <Smoht> I want my desktop to have wifi and bluetooth for cheap
[09:52] <cfhowlett> bluetooth is quite cheap as are most ISP's.  suggest you pay for both.
[09:54] <ceegee> the ubuntu 14.04 lts installer just probes on eth0 for a dhcp lease, any chance to discover on other interfaces, too? its required for unattanded installation
[09:55] <joelio> you can just set to auto, it'll detect whatever's got link
[09:55] <joelio> if that's what you mean?
[09:56] <ceegee> joelio: there is a link on both NICs, but dhcp is only available behind eth1
[09:57] <ceegee> initrd interface=auto is passed
[09:57] <joelio> ceegee: well, that's wrong
[09:57] <joelio> in preseed - d-i netcfg/choose_interface select eth1
[09:57] <joelio> or via kernel..
[09:57] <joelio> netcfg/choose_interface=eth1
[09:59] <joelio> https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/installation-guide/amd64/apbs04.html#preseed-network
[09:59] <stephanlap> Hello. my computer (with Kubuntu 16.04) is booting properly. it stops during the boot process, the last two messages shown are kernel panics, Qone with the message "not syncing: Attempted to kill init! exitcode=0x00000009", the other basically the same, but saying "attempted to kill init!"
[10:00] <stephanlap> sorry, it should havesaid "isn't booting properly2, of course.
[10:14] <prospero__> hi folks
[10:14] <prospero__> i have problems with my lubuntu, can i get solutions here?
[10:16] <k1l_> prospero__: just ask
[10:16] <OerHeks> prospero__, ask, wait and see
[10:17] <prospero__> ok, the problem is - most of the time my computer boots fine and works great. but sometimes it crashes
[10:17] <prospero__> the apport log says the environment variable dbus... is not set
[10:17] <DaX_> hello all
[10:17] <Guest22375> is there any solution for google drive?
[10:18] <Guest22375> that sync files all the time
[10:18] <Guest22375> on our hard drive
[10:18] <Guest22375> ?
[10:18] <zerammar> downloud torrent
[10:18] <zerammar> free slow
[10:18] <prospero__> kil, OerHeks i wasn't sure if this was the right room
[10:18] <cfhowlett> Guest22375, see the software center
[10:19] <k1l_> Guest22375: you can mount the gdrive as an external share on nautilus. but that still has some issues.
[10:19] <OerHeks> prospero__, so not always ?
[10:19] <cfhowlett> zerammar, torrent speeds vary.  not an ubuntu issue.
[10:19] <OerHeks> maybe worth a try to look at your memory, with memtest86
[10:19] <prospero__> OerHeks, no, most of the time if boots fine
[10:19] <Guest22375> how do i change my nick here lol
[10:19] <k1l_> prospero__: we need the logs when that crash happens. so after a crash you need to look at the dmesg and syslog in /var/log to see what happend
[10:19] <prospero__> OerHeks, i hate flaky bugs
[10:20] <Exodious> nvm found it
[10:20] <prospero__> ok kil, what am i looking for in those logs?
[10:21] <v7> So ... I've sent a request to modinfo's developer email ... about iwlwifi driver ...
[10:22] <v7> So ... orsmga001.jf.intel.com told that ( Delivery Status Notification ) -> Unknown address error.
[10:23] <v7> So ... at man page for modinfo iwlwifi is fake address written
[10:23] <cfhowlett> could be
[10:23] <v7> Bad :(
[10:25] <Tin_man> Exodious, are you currently using ocamlfuse?
[10:25] <Exodious> @Tin_man don't even know what you are using
[10:25] <Exodious> talking about*
[10:25] <Tin_man> here is a link..
[10:26] <k1l_> prospero__: hard to say without seeing the logs from the crash.
[10:26] <Tin_man> http://www.webupd8.org/2013/09/mount-google-drive-in-linux-with-google.html
[10:26] <prospero__> kil how can i show you the logs
[10:26] <prospero__> pastebin?
[10:27] <k1l_> prospero__: when happened the last crash?
[10:27] <prospero__> i will post a link to a pic
[10:28] <prospero__> is it ok to post links in here?
[10:28] <cfhowlett> !paste | prospero__
[10:28] <k1l_> prospero__: pastebin service like paste.ubuntu.com is better most times.
[10:28] <prospero__> i think it's a problem during boot when the resolution is changed
[10:28] <prospero__> http://imgbox.com/MbOD6cvm
[10:29] <prospero__> i pic of what happens when it crashes, tho that pic is upside down
[10:29] <prospero__> a
[10:29] <Exodious> Tin_man this won't sync files back to the server
[10:30] <Tin_man> never tried it with the server, just my pc..
[10:30] <prospero__> ok ubottu
[10:31] <prospero__> a bot right
[10:31] <Tin_man> prospero__, yes
[10:32] <Asad2005> Aftyer upgrading to 16.04 my microsoft wireless mutlimedia keyboard 1.1 function keys and probalbly some other short cuts like ^insert not working is this a driver issue, any help?
[10:37] <ducasse> Asad2005: by 'function keys' do you mean f1-f12?
[10:40] <mx-butterfly> hey
[10:44] <Netek> hrrmmm, is this a false alert or an actual hack attempt?  reverse mapping checking getaddrinfo for 217.30.65.218.broad.xy.jx.dynamic.163data.com.cn [218.65.30.217] failed - POSSIBLE BREAK-IN ATTEMPT!
[10:45] <headcat79> anyone has issues with docking station and laptops on 16.04 I used 14.04 and could dock and undock my laptop with no issue on 16.04 if I dock or undock my laptop the screen freezes
[10:45] <Mathisen> Netek, ##security
[10:45] <Netek> Mathisen this is a channel?
[10:45] <Mathisen> Netek, yes
[10:46] <Netek> k I didnt know there was this channel, I will ask there.  Thanks
[10:46] <k1l_> headcat79: that depends on the exact make and model. in general that works like it was on 14.04.
[10:48] <headcat79> its a think pad T460
[10:51] <k1l_> headcat79: the dock works like it should with my x230
[10:52] <headcat79> ok thanks maybe something I over looked hopefully ubuntu mate can continue to grow not big fan of unity
[10:54] <jeboydennis> hello everyone! I am having a problem with my R9 390 video card and Ubuntu 16.04. fglrx driver is no longer supported, but when I boot now without "radeon.nomodeset=0" I only get a black screen. How can I find/install the correct driver? Because using nomodeset makes the performance really bad...
[10:58] <baash05> Hey all.. I'm running ubuntu on a macpro (2015)
[10:59] <baash05> I've found the system starts up slower..
[10:59] <baash05> It was really snappy when I first installed Ubuntu.
[11:00] <baash05> I'm wondering if there is a way to test the hardware.
[11:03] <v7> baash05: run in terminal: systemd-analyze
[11:04] <baash05> Startup finished in 39.841s (kernel) + 4.122s (userspace) = 43.964s
[11:05] <chacanthus> hello
[11:05] <chacanthus> Hello
[11:05] <anonV> hello citizen
[11:07] <jeboydennis> anyone here to help me with what I said above?
[11:07] <Asad2005> ducasse: yes
[11:09] <v7> baash05: Yeah
[11:09] <v7> baash05: Now systemd-analyze blame
[11:09] <baash05> does that not seem slow..
[11:09] <v7> And pastebin that
[11:10] <baash05> http://pastebin.com/7C3WHCCq
[11:10] <baash05> ps  didn't know about pastebin.. cool
[11:12] <baash05> Those seem to be limited to a rather small percentage.
[11:13] <v7> baash05: ... hmm
[11:13] <v7> You pasted the first one row of blame ?
[11:14] <baash05> Ah.. sorry..
[11:14] <ducasse> baash05: pastebin the whole thing, please
[11:14] <k1l_> baash05: "systemd-analyze blame | nc termbin.com 9999" and show the url here
[11:14] <baash05> http://pastebin.com/317u9R3N
[11:15] <v7> k1l_: ha ... I was searching for this command :D
[11:16] <v7> So ... nothing is using 40 seconds of load ...
[11:16] <v7> Did you checked you hard drive ?
[11:16] <k1l_> could it be, that is waits several seconds for your encrypotion password to be entered?
[11:16] <baash05> I didn't encrypt the sys.
[11:16] <baash05> How to check the HD..
[11:17] <k1l_> baash05: are you sure? then why the crypted swap service is running?
[11:18] <jeboydennis> anyone know the good driver for AMD R9 390?
[11:18] <v7> baash05: terminal: gnome-disks there, Benchmark – Measure Drive Performance. A new window with charts opens.You will find and two buttons. One is for “Start Read Only Benchmark” and another one is “Start Read/Write Benchmark”. When you click on anyone button it starts benchmarking of hard disk.
[11:18] <jeboydennis> With default driver I only get a black screen
[11:19] <k1l_> jeboydennis: since 16.04 there is no fglrx anymore since amd stopped making it. you now can use radeon or amd_gpu if amd_gpu supports your card
[11:19] <v7> jeboydennis: https://www.reddit.com/r/linux_gaming/comments/3z4w35/r9_390_on_linux/?st=ishdsg6h&sh=eb44d3f0 ?
[11:19] <v7> jeboydennis: http://askubuntu.com/questions/754307/how-do-i-install-the-proprietary-amd-r9-390-drivers-in-ubuntu-14-04-if-the-gui-o
[11:20] <jeboydennis> v7 thats for 14.04 which still supports fglrx drivers, 16.04 doesnt
[11:20] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:20] <jeboydennis> k1l_: amd_gpu should support my card but I only get a black screen so apparently the driver is not being used or something weird..
[11:21] <v7> jeboydennis: :(
[11:21] <jeboydennis> how can I try out these drivers or find out which one is used now? k1l_
[11:22] <Asad2005> Aftyer upgrading to 16.04 my microsoft wireless mutlimedia keyboard 1.1 function keys and probalbly some other short cuts like ^insert not working is this a driver issue, any help?
[11:23] <Guest94222> tem algum BR aqui?
[11:24] <ducasse> Asad2005: do they send keyboard events at all? you can test with xev.
[11:24] <BluesKaj> jeboydennis, which graphics card? fglrx is replaced on most Radeon cards with the amdgpu driver
[11:25] <jeboydennis> BluesKaj: I am using a AMD R9 390 graphics card.
[11:26] <Asad2005> ducasse: yes i can see a different cursor in shell
[11:26] <jeboydennis> Interesting, booting without nomodeset got me the desktop for 1 second and now I have a black screen again
[11:28] <baash05> 1.3 GB/s (100 samples)  -  708.2 MB/s (100 samples) - 0.08 msec (1000 samples)
[11:28] <BluesKaj> jeboydennis, ok at the login page drop to a VT/TTY (ctl+alt +F1-F6) , login then go , sudo apt install vserver-xorg-video-amdgpu, then reboot
[11:28] <ducasse> Asad2005: type 'xev -event keyboard'. put the cursor in the little white window, and press the keys that don't work. does it say 'keypress event' and 'keyrelease event'?
[11:28] <baash05> that seems reasonable.
[11:29] <BluesKaj> kr correction xserver
[11:29] <silver310> Hello, I'm having issues with Ubuntu server 16.04, I tried installing ldap-account-manager (i previously had phpldapadmin installed) but I keep getting this error "invoke-rc.d: initscript apache2, action "reload" failed"
[11:29] <v7> baash05: so ?
[11:30] <jeboydennis> BluesKaj: It tells me it is already installed
[11:30] <silver310> Also, now if i run the apt-get command, no matter what i try to install/remove, apt will always try to remove ldap-account-manager
[11:31] <Asad2005> ducasse: yes but not in the white window its in the terminal window
[11:32] <baash05> I'm not sure what to do with the output of the scan.
[11:32] <Asad2005> ducasse: it also give "KeymapNotify event, serial 30, synthetic NO, window 0x0"
[11:32] <BluesKaj> jeboydennis, ok , next step is to try the recovery kernel in grub or sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade at the VT/TTY
[11:32] <ducasse> Asad2005: i know. what does it say after 'keycode'? it should be something like 'keycode 70 (keysym 0xffc1, F4)'
[11:34] <Asad2005> ducasse: keycode 189 (keysym 0x1008ff68, XF86New), same_screen YES
[11:35] <Asad2005> ducasse: keycode 64 (keysym 0xffe9, Alt_L), same_screen YES
[11:35] <Asad2005> ducasse: I pressed alt F4
[11:36] <ducasse> Asad2005: you may be using the wrong keyboard layout, i'm not really sure. that is not the right event for f4.
[11:37] <Asad2005> ducasse: how do i change the layout i have ms wireless multimedia keyboard
[11:37] <ducasse> Asad2005: depends on your desktop, probably under keyboard or language settings.
[11:39] <BluesKaj_> JeanSprouts,
[11:39] <BluesKaj_> jes
[11:39] <BluesKaj_> oops
[11:41] <baash05> v7.. seeing that..
[11:41] <baash05> what next?
[11:42] <surajx> I just upgraded to 14.04.5 (HWE) from 14.04.4 and I'm having issues after waking from suspend, the whole screen is frozen and unable to click anything...
[11:42] <surajx> Any idea whats causing this?
[11:45] <surajx> The system had been stable for 3 years, but this lates HWE update had made my laptop quite unusable
[11:49] <k1l_> surajx: most resume issues are issues when the kernel module (driver) is loaded while the hardware is not ready yet. look at the logs what the issue is.
[11:51] <david__> Hi, does anyone know how I can set qt5 as default for Ubuntu? QTCreator shows up No valid kits found and I cannot build anything with it
[11:55] <surajx> @k1l_ The only issue I found in the kern.log is a WARNING saying:  linux-lts-xenial-4.4.0/drivers/gpu/drm/drm_irq.c:1326 drm_wait_one_vblank [drm] vblank wait timed out on crtc 0
[11:56] <baash05> surajx: do you now how to do what they suggested?
[11:56] <ceegee> during installation of ubuntu 14.04 installer fails with kernel setup: linux-image-generic: Depends: linux-image-extra-3.13.0-95-generic but it is not going to be installed
[11:57] <surajx> I am going through the log generated during wake from suspend in /var/log/kern.log
[11:58] <surajx> is there another way to know if a module was loaded while the harware is not ready?
[12:04] <v7> ImFromIndonesia, forever alone :D
[12:05] <DrNo> I'm having a really tough time upgrading from 15.10 to 16
[12:05] <DrNo> :(
[12:05] <DrNo> I've tried disabling 3rd party sources etc
[12:05] <v7> DrNo ... don't upgrade
[12:05] <DrNo> Why? 0_0
[12:05] <v7> Better download ISO and install freshly
[12:05] <Ben64> what? you need to upgrade. 15.10 is no longer supported
[12:06] <Ben64> !eolupgrade | DrNo
[12:06] <DrNo> ^
[12:07] <LuisM> hi folks
[12:07] <DrNo> Fresh install would be ideal, but it's impractical due to the inability I have to make a bootable usb for this daft PC
[12:07] <v7> DrNo, You might create CD :)
[12:07] <Ben64> upgrade should work, especially if you've disabled 3rd party repos
[12:07] <LuisM> how to hot add memory in ubuntu?
[12:07] <v7> Ben64, ... ah ... these uprades ...
[12:07] <Ben64> LuisM: you don't
[12:07] <DrNo> I haven't had a CD drive for nearly 10 years!
[12:08] <joelio> DrNo: what's the actual error?
[12:08] <LuisM> Ben64: why?
[12:08] <v7> After upgrading from 14 to 16 ... system made slowly as cr**
[12:08] <LuisM> acpi_memhotplub ?
[12:08] <Ben64> LuisM: because you can't add memory to a running system
[12:08] <surajx> @baash05 Any idea
[12:08] <surajx> ?
[12:08] <LuisM> no, I can
[12:08] <DrNo> It just spews out multiple options saying the upgrade failed
[12:08] <baash05> no.. I was hoping you had a clue for me actually..
[12:08] <DrNo> nothing specific whatsoever
[12:08] <LuisM> in my environment, machines are VM
[12:08] <joelio> DrNo: so pastebin the errors and shate
[12:08] <baash05> I've been on 16 for a while.
[12:08] <joelio> *share
[12:09] <Ben64> LuisM: you failed to mention that
[12:09] <v7> Before upgrade systems used 1-2 GB of ram, after 4GB ... and 40seconds of starting services.
[12:09] <baash05> But the boot up is taking a long time.
[12:09] <LuisM> hehe
[12:09] <surajx> Aha, I have a desktop setup on 16, I have mouse pointer dissapearing issues, and text dissapearing issues
[12:09] <surajx> from lock and wake...
[12:09] <LuisM> i can't load that modules to hot add memory
[12:10] <baash05> About 80seconds
[12:10] <v7> oops, 4 minutes
[12:10] <Ben64> LuisM: still probably not possible
[12:10] <v7> After clean install all worked perfectly ... and system boots up in 5 secs
[12:11] <surajx> I cant clean install lot of painstaking customization over the last 3 years
[12:11] <surajx> and really need the system asap for a 2 week deadline I'm cramming for :(
[12:11] <v7> surajx, aren't you able to save your customization ?
[12:12] <surajx> ive compiled lot of packages from source... and I dont remember what all things I did over the years...
[12:12] <LuisM> Ben64: look
[12:12] <LuisM> https://kb.vmware.com/selfservice/microsites/search.do?language=en_US&cmd=displayKC&externalId=1012764
[12:15] <drmoebius> where to report the following bug:
[12:16] <drmoebius> where to report the following bug (ubuntu 16.04):
[12:16] <drmoebius> for i in 1 2 3 4 5; do echo $i >> test; done
[12:16] <drmoebius> does not append if test is on an sftp mounted folder
[12:17] <kevin0496> yay
[12:17] <kevin0496> someone here ?
[12:17] <v7> kevin0496, ...
[12:18] <kevin0496> yes ?
[12:18] <v7> drmoebius, Have you tried FTP ?
[12:18] <surajx> Found another wierd thing... If I switch to tty1 and back to vt everything freezer
[12:19] <Ben64> drmoebius: how are you mounting it
[12:19] <drmoebius> v7: no, I do not have an ftp share ready to test
[12:19] <drmoebius> Ben64: using thunar  sftp://server/... I have an ssh key
[12:22]  * joelio uses sshfs
[12:22] <joelio> can mount via fstab that way too
[12:22] <Ben64> drmoebius: works here
[12:22] <Ben64> therefore - not a bug
[12:23] <drmoebius> hmmm I can reproduce the issue on 2 computers
[12:23] <surajx> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1583817
[12:35] <jamie_1> hey i am currently having an odd issue, I am trying to fix dependancies but i need libproxy1 and i currently have libproxy1v5 installed also... but it wont let me unisitall libproxy1v5 i have to use libproxy1 due to a program i need for school only allows libproxy1
[12:35] <jamie_1> does anyone know how to solve this issue?
[12:37] <jamie_1> i currently cant install or remove any packages untill the conflict is resolved
[12:42] <jamie_1> any suggestions on how to make the dependancies for libproxy1v5 depend on libproxy1 instead?
[12:44] <mcphail> jamie_1: don't fight the package manager. Go back to default. You can link your program to the other lib using LD_PRELOAD or LD_LIBRARY_PATH. You don't need to install your new lib to the system directories
[12:48] <sasadw4748> :-D
[12:49] <sasadw4748> hi?
[12:49] <mypainter> hi @sasadw4748
[12:50] <sasadw4748> how are you?:)
[12:53] <mypainter> @sasadw4748 Great! how about ubun-u?
[12:54] <sasadw4748> i just first time in freenode irc
[12:55] <ceegee> I just installed ubuntu 14.04 with foreman (preseed), with the preseed finish script I modify /etc/network/interfaces but my modifications seem to be overwritten. any hints what could be the reason?
[12:55] <jamie_m9> hey i am having an issue on my laptop with a packages conflict. I am using a program called clear pass which i need to have acces to the internet at college but it depends upon libproxy1 instead of libproxy1v5... so i had to force install but now i cant remove libproxy1v5 due to other packages depend on it... any ideas on how to swap them to 1 instead of 1v5?
[12:56] <joelio> ceegee: it's a bug in debian installer
[12:56] <joelio> ceegee: I've had the same issue before, when setting up bridged interfaces
[12:56] <mypainter> Network manager might also take over some of that
[12:56] <ceegee> joelio: any workarounds?
[12:56] <joelio> yea, can copy into target as the post-install hook
[12:57] <jamie_m9> right now due to this packages conflict i cannot install any programs or remove any untill the conflict in packages is resolved
[12:57] <joelio> ceegee: one sec, I'll grab the actual config I used..
[12:58] <sasadw4748> i am rookie about Ubuntu :)
[12:58] <joelio> ceegee: https://paste.ubuntu.com/23111745/
  neat well, welcome!
[12:58] <OerHeks> !info libproxy1-plugin-networkmanager
[12:59] <sasadw4748> i know few knowledge
[12:59] <joelio> ceegee: adjust to tate (kvm.sh is superfluous here...)
[12:59] <jamie_m9> OerHeks: currenty version in libproxy1v5 which i cant use for clear pass
[13:00] <ceegee> joelio: I just need the copy from /target to / right?
[13:00] <joelio> ceegee: so bascially a late_conmand cp /target/etc/network/interfaces /etc/network/interfaces;
[13:00] <OerHeks> jamie_m9, i read that, but i cannot find libproxy1 anywhere .. maybe you need this plugin ?
[13:01] <jamie_m9> OerHeks: i have libproxy1 installed via a source file
[13:01] <jamie_m9> i had to do it that way due to i had no internet at the time except on my phone
[13:02] <OerHeks> i have no clue :-(
[13:02] <ceegee> joelio: preseed finish is executed before or within the normal preseed process? I thought first comes preseed, then preseed finish. I am wondering if a late command will take effect for my problem
[13:03] <jamie_m9> OerHeks: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=libproxy1
[13:04] <joelio> ceegee: late_command
[13:04] <OerHeks> Trusty 14.04 is your solution then..
[13:04] <joelio> ceegee: I've just taken it directly from my preseeds, where I had the same issue
[13:05] <ceegee> joelio: I believe, I was just wondering how things come together
[13:05] <NicoRookie> lol
[13:05] <jamie_m9> OerHeks: im on 16.10
[13:06] <ducasse> jamie_m9: #ubuntu+1 for 16.10 support
[13:06] <joelio> ceegee: there's a debian installer 'function' that copies back the interfaces file into the target, so any changes in target, are overwritten
[13:07] <joelio> to fix that if you copy out the target and overwrite the stateless interface file, then you get the correct outcome
[13:07] <jamie_m9> ducasse: its not a specific 16.10
[13:07] <joelio> it's hacky, there's a bugzilla open for it
[13:07] <jamie_m9> issue
[13:07] <ducasse> jamie_m9: if you have a problem with 16.10, you need to ask in #ubuntu+1. it's not supported here, see the topic.
[13:08] <jamie_m9> ducasse: like i said its not a 16.10 issue its a package issue
[13:09] <Exodious> is there a chance to add touchpad gestures? like pinch to zoom or three fingers scrolling to switch applications and so on?
[13:10] <_unreal_> opinion question, I have a netbook 2gb single 64bit core 1.6ghz. I totally botched my HD by dd'ing an image to the worng partition. should I go with lbuntu xubuntu or ubuntu mate?
[13:10] <_unreal_> intel atom core
[13:11] <mikelp1973> ubuntu mate.
[13:11] <_unreal_> why mate?
[13:12] <joelio> is that still based on old gtk2?
[13:12] <mikelp1973> it's lightweight as xfce but I just like it better.
[13:12] <rahlquist> any way to stop find/locate running away with ram usage when it updates at night? when mine kicked off last night it eventually scaled to 13Gb ram use
[13:13] <mikelp1973> yes it is still gtk2
[13:13] <zykotick9> rahlquist: it's NOT find... find doesn't use a database.  for locate - i have no idea.
[13:13] <joelio> gtk2 still under active development then?
[13:14] <mikelp1973> I don't think so Mate is being migrated to GTK3 it's just not complete yet.
[13:14] <rahlquist> mikelp1973 http://pastebin.com/BheYXarS  here is a snap of the line from PS shortly before I killed it
[13:15] <ducasse> rahlquist: find out what filesystem makes it use so much memory, and exclude that from the scan.
[13:16] <rahlquist> ducasse hmm but then it wont be indexed?
[13:17] <ducasse> rahlquist: if you actually need every fs to be indexed because you use locate, then you pretty much need to let it run, don't you?
[13:19] <ducasse> rahlquist: you could try to install gnu locate instead, maybe it behaves differently when building the index.
[13:20] <rahlquist> ducasse maybe I will try that, when something like this happens I have never been able to let it finish, its a server and once the ram sprials up that high the load hits 50 and I kill it
[13:21] <ducasse> rahlquist: do you actually _use_ locate regularly?
[13:21] <rahlquist> yes quite often, probably 5 time a week or more
[13:22] <ducasse> rahlquist: and you need every fs to be indexed?
[13:23] <rahlquist> ducasse the problem first manafested when I initially staged the server and it still only had 6tb of drives, since then I have added another 6tb, I am probably pushing around 500k files or more
[13:24] <rahlquist> ducasse I may be able to trim it down some but seems silly that I should have such a huge scaling issue even when its just a bare 16.04 server install with maybe 10k files
[13:25] <ducasse> rahlquist: my fileserver has 18tb, i just disabled locate and use find instead. there are also other indexing tools you could try.
[13:26] <rahlquist> ducasse ok I guess I will have to try, just built this server to replace my fedora 19 box and it never had this issues, will look into alteratives
[13:26] <rahlquist> thanks for the advice guys
[13:26] <ducasse> rahlquist: maybe fedora uses gnu locate, i don't know.
[13:32] <ljosberinn> hi all! so.. i'm trying to write a script which should run on startup for ubuntu 16.04... i had it in /etc/init.d/ in older ubuntu version, now i'm trying to rewrite it as a service in /etc/systemd/system/
[13:32] <ljosberinn> it is extremely simple "service"... just running a bash script...
[13:33] <ljosberinn> however, i am running on bunch of problems when trying to register the service
[13:33] <ljosberinn> like: insserv: warning: script 'log_listener' missing LSB tags and overrides
[13:33] <ljosberinn> update-rc.d: error: log_listener Default-Start contains no runlevels, aborting.
[13:33] <ljosberinn> this is my script: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23111832/
[13:34] <ljosberinn> so, what am i doing wrong here?
[13:35] <ljosberinn> i was googling about moving from initd to sysv and i got few examples like this: https://www.digitalocean.com/community/questions/convert-run-at-startup-script-from-upstart-to-systemd-for-ubuntu-16
[13:35] <ljosberinn> it seems pretty straight forward, but for some reason i keep getting those errors and cannot make it work
[13:36] <ducasse> ljosberinn: how are you trying to enable it?
[13:37] <ljosberinn> ducasse, this command: sudo systemctl enable log_listener
[13:37] <ljosberinn> i saved the file as /etc/systemd/system/log_listener.service
[13:37] <ljosberinn> gave it chmod +x and even tried chmod 777
[13:39] <rahlquist> ducasse https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1243951&page=2  looks like this comes up from time to time that thread never had resolution but they seem to blame it on ionice
[13:40] <ducasse> rahlquist: that's possible, you could try removing it from the job or changing the options.
[13:41] <rahlquist> yeah thats the route I am going to try first, I know that manually updating takes very little time and seems to work whereas the scheduled job, not so happy lol
[13:44] <ducasse> rahlquist: should be easy to test :)
[13:44] <rahlquist> yeah doing it now, have iotop running and just kicked it off
[13:47] <NicoRookie> :-D
[13:47] <Kurowa> hello.
[13:51] <blut> how can i setup nis with a preseeded configuration?
[13:51] <blut> Or puppet
[13:56] <blut> I really just want the nis installation to be performed without prompt... However even with 'DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive' and 'apt-get install -q -y -o Dpkg::Options::="--force-confdef" -o Dpkg::Options::="--force-confold" nis' The installation waits for input
[13:57] <Braven> what does it mean if ubuntu get the grub screen but after the kernel is selected it black screens.
[13:58] <blut> Braven: try pressing Alt+Ctrl+F1
[13:58] <blut> Braven: and ESC
[13:58] <zykotick9> !nomodeset | Braven
[13:59] <Braven> this is ubuntu server
[13:59] <ducasse> for preseed you might get better/more help in #ubuntu-server.
[14:00] <Braven> I will try again..
[14:03] <blut> I hate this operating system -.-
[14:05] <YankDownUnder> blut: Your choice.
[14:05] <blut> YankDownUnder: nope -.-
[14:06] <ljosberinn> ducasse, just to let you know, i figured it out...  systemctl was obviously picking up the old file from /etc/init.d/.... when i deleted it, everything went just fine! :)
[14:08] <ducasse> ljosberinn: good, it confused me why it was saying that :)
[14:17] <eodnhoj>       
[14:21] <rahlquist> ducasse ok been testing but did not push it as far as last night but I figured out what happened, mlocate run with ionice -c3 when my server is 'idle' will move up to about 500k/sec of data according to iotop,
[14:21] <rahlquist> ducasse but I realized last night I had rsync running moving files from an old volume to a new volume, with that running mlocate gets pushed to 40k/s or less so it starts increasing ram use as it caches more changes so in the end the ionice bumping against rsync caused it
[14:30] <ubuntu-mate> Hello
[14:31] <ubuntu-mate> Hello i have a question please
[14:31] <YankDownUnder> ubuntu-mate: Just ask - don't ask to ask.
[14:32] <ubuntu-mate> understood,please how can i change user name if you please
[14:32] <YankDownUnder> ubuntu-mate: To change your name, type: "/nick Whatevernameyouwant"
[14:32] <ubuntu-mate> in the terminal,rightM
[14:33] <YankDownUnder> ubuntu-mate: Do you mean for IRC, or for your linux box?
[14:33] <compdoc> ubuntu-mate, username for IRC, or your ubuntu username?
[14:33] <ubuntu-mate> both please
[14:33] <genii> ubuntu-mate: The command given was to change the name you are currently using here on Freenode. to change the name of a user on your Ubuntu is a different set of commands
[14:34] <ubuntu-mate> understood, thank you for your time and help
[14:35] <ducasse> rahlquist: aha, well, good you found out. :)
[14:35] <ubuntu-mate> may i ask why does it so long for systeme to boot
[14:36] <ubuntu-mate> i thought linux was faster then windows
[14:36] <compdoc> ubuntu-mate, shouldnt take too long, unless you have a slow computer
[14:36] <compdoc> linux doesnt perform miracles
[14:36] <ducasse> ubuntu-mate: take a look at the 'usermod' man page to change your login name, especially the -l option.
[14:37] <ubuntu-mate> thank you so much guys for the help im q newbie
[14:37] <joelio> 1st boot always takes longer anyway, as it's writing dot files
[14:37] <ubuntu-mate> how can i take a screenshot if you please
[14:38] <joelio> s/boot/login
[14:38] <joelio> !scrot
[14:38] <joelio> ubuntu-mate: press print-screen
[14:38] <ubuntu-mate> done
[14:38] <joelio> ok, you should have a screenshot in the Picture filder
[14:38] <ubuntu-mate> thank you
[14:38] <rahlquist> ubuntu-mate been a sysadmin and programmer for since the early 90's, yes given the same piece of hardware linux can usually do more, it may not be faster, but def can accomplish more, for example my web server over at rackspace handles 9 domains, gets more than 10,000 emails a day runs them through spamassassin etc and has 1gb of ram and the load on that box never get over 3
[14:39] <ubuntu-mate> is it possible to donate money for developers
[14:40] <mfc_> ok ubuntu is giving me a DEAD END issue. here I explained with colors https://docs.google.com/document/d/1xBs0Ox3Vkbqb_0iVcBt7aAu_7kfb3eOzc405s5z_1zI/edit?usp=sharing
[14:40] <mfc_> basically trying to install build-essential but it turns into a dead loop...
[14:42] <ubuntu-mate> how can i change language please
[14:42] <ubuntu-mate> and im very sorry to bother you guys
[14:45] <mfc_> it was so easy to do on mint:(
[14:46] <k1l_> mfc_: looks like 3rd party repos installed?
[14:46] <YankDownUnder> ubuntu-mate: Can you be more specific?
[14:47] <mfc_> k1l_ yes, is that bad?
[14:47] <k1l_> mfc_: that is the root of your issue here. your 3rd party repos ship other versions than the original ubuntu packages needs as depencies
[14:48] <papabear|> #linux
[14:48] <mfc_> k1l_ http://i.imgur.com/r5P2kh8.png does this show those repos? it was like this
[14:48] <k1l_> mfc_: and that would be the same on mint, btw
[14:50] <k1l_> mfc_: wait. the numix ppa doesnt have any gcc stuff.
[14:50] <k1l_> mfc_: this looks more like a multiarch issue. did you enable 32bit arch?
[14:51] <mfc_> kl23 it is in a virtual machine but it is 64 bit(i think) hmm
[14:51] <mfc_> sorry wrong nick
[14:51] <Guest57378> Hey, I am using Ubuntu 16.04 server over VMware env. I
[14:52] <mfc_> k1l_ http://i.imgur.com/BS1TDlA.png it says 64bit
[14:52] <mfc_> and installed with xubuntu-16.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso
[14:53] <Guest57378> Hey, I am using Ubuntu 16.04 server over VMware env. IM trying to add new hard disk to the VM and the VM doesnt detects it. tried "echo "- - -" > /sys/...."  and also with rescan-scsi-bus. both doesnt work. anyone got an idea?
[14:54] <tdiesel> Hello
[14:54] <blackghost> may i ask which faster ubnutu mate or lubnutu
[14:55] <blackghost> for an old laptop
[14:55] <mypainter> lubuntu
[14:55] <mypainter> resource footprint is smaller
[14:55] <blackghost> thank you guys
[14:56] <HoloIRCUser> Is Kali linux based on debian
[14:56] <tdiesel> or xubuntu
 although there is a chance that better gfxcard support might make gpu based acceleration faster for ubuntu/ mate faster on a new laptop
 xubuntu also runs verywell as a middle ground if you like the older gnome "feel"
[14:57] <k1l_> HoloIRCUser: ask ##linux for that sort of questions
[14:58] <OrGaizer> Hey, I am using Ubuntu 16.04 server over VMware env. IM trying to add new hard disk to the VM and the VM doesnt detects it. tried "echo "- - -" > /sys/...."  and also with rescan-scsi-bus. both doesnt work. anyone got an idea?
[14:59] <k1l_> mfc_: are you using a local repo? can you run a "sudo apt update" and try again?
[14:59] <tdiesel> The xubuntu simply is a little heavier than lubuntu
[14:59] <mfc_> k1l_ I was using local repo but now switching to main and will retry. I did apt update tons of times btw
[15:00] <joelio> OrGaizer: what does dmesg say - also are you adding SCSI or IDE devices
[15:01] <joelio> generally, when I do this in kvm, just adding a device show it in dmesg of the guest (ymmv for vmware)
[15:01] <mfc_> k1l_ it's functioning now after switching to main repo!!! http://i.imgur.com/hXSZC6d.png why do local mirrors even exist...
[15:04] <mbps55> Hi
[15:04] <tdiesel> Hi mbps55
[15:05] <mbps55> What is the differences between those two? /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default.conf  vs /etc/apache2/sites-available/000-default.conf
[15:05] <mbps55> Sorry if Im asking it here, I cant post on httpd
[15:06] <tdiesel> Do you speek greek
[15:06] <joelio> mbps55: nothing, one is a symlink
[15:06] <joelio> managed by a2ensite or a2dissite
[15:06] <joelio> available means it's... available
[15:06] <joelio> enabled... enabled
[15:06] <mbps55> Which one is the symlink?
[15:07] <joelio> the enabled
[15:07] <genii> mbps55: "sites-enabled is ones you are actually using, which are symlinks to the actual files in site-available
[15:07] <joelio> !ubuntu-gr
[15:07] <satmandu> Anybody a kvm/libvirt user here? I'm having trouble with usb passthrough to a qemu VM since I upgraded from 14.04 to 16.04
[15:07] <mbps55> Thanks for the info though. Sorry for my english =)
[15:07] <k1l_> !gr | tdiesel
[15:08] <tdiesel> Hi
[15:08] <tdiesel> #ubuntu-gr
[15:08] <joelio> tdiesel: add /join to the start
[15:09] <tdiesel>  I have to go bb
[15:10] <jamie_1> anyone know any way to support visual basic development? i have monodevelop but it does not seem to support visual basic... and i cant get crap of a response from the mono people over in #mono
[15:17] <skykooler> Hello! I just upgraded Ubuntu to Xenial (from Trusty) and NotifyOSD notifications are no longer showing when a video is playing.
[15:17] <skykooler> This includes web videos like Youtube, local files, and even the webcam (tried both Cheese and CamDesk)
[15:18] <skykooler> I can force a message to display from nofity-send by adding --urgency=critical, but this doesn't help for any other applications that send notifications.
[15:20] <wad> So I've got a computer (64-bit Ubuntu 16.04 LTS desktop in a VM) on which I would like to use a specific non-public DNS, so I can test out a non-public thingy. It connects to the lan via a DHCP client. I can edit the ipv4 network connections and add additional DNS, but I need to replace the current provided ones. Thoughts?
[15:20] <ikonia> do just that
[15:21] <ikonia> change the dns server from dhcp and use a static mapping
[15:21] <ikonia> open the network manager tab and just change the dns setting
[15:21] <wad> I guess that would work, until another computer gets handed my same IP address by the DHCP server.
[15:21] <ikonia> err no
[15:21] <wad> Then I'll be hosing some other computer on the network...
[15:22] <ikonia> no you woulnd't
[15:22] <ikonia> what are you talking about,
[15:22] <joelio> dns settings != ip
[15:22] <wad> So the DHCP server handed me an IP address from the pool of dynamically allocatable addresses.
[15:22] <ikonia> right,
[15:22] <joelio> yea, and you can override the dhcp provided dns server....
[15:22] <joelio> but reatain the dhcp
[15:22] <peyolo> Hi. I'm trying to install ubuntu 16.04 on a computer asus with a Gtx 960. The install program is waiting to detect the GPU and runs indefinitly.
[15:23] <peyolo> some solutions ?
[15:23] <wad> If I stop using the DHCP client, and just statically choose an IP address, then there could be a collision, right?
[15:23] <ikonia> wad: who said stop using the dhcp client ?
[15:23] <joelio> no, that's not what we're saying :)
[15:23] <tgm4883> wad: you can set network manager to use DHCP for address only. then manually set a DNS server
[15:23] <wad> Ah, sorry, I interpreted "change the dns server from dhcp and use a static mapping" to mean stop using the DHCP client.
[15:24] <wad> Ah, I think I see it!
[15:24] <wad> I'll give this a try.
[15:24] <joelio> I'm sure very many kids use this way to get around dns filters
[15:29] <OrGaizer> Hey, I am using Ubuntu 16.04 server over VMware env. IM trying to add new hard disk to the VM and the VM doesnt detects it. someone got an idea maybe? its not like 14.04
[15:29] <ikonia> it's exactly the same as 14.04
[15:30] <ikonia> you add a virtual disk, probably need to reboot the guest
[15:30] <joelio> OrGaizer: I asked before, does it show in dmesg
[15:30] <joelio> you can hotplug devices in kvm fine, can't see why not in vmware, but what *type* of device are you adding, is it in dmesg etc.
[15:31] <OrGaizer> well its scsi device
[15:31] <OrGaizer> and what is the message i should see in dmesg (pretty new at it)
[15:31] <joelio> you should see a new device appear (if it is hotpluggable) as soon as you attach a volume
[15:32] <joelio> if not, then it's vmware support needed, not ubuntu
[15:32] <OrGaizer> VM-tools installed, let me unplug and plug again
[15:32] <joelio> yea, that's nothing to do with it really, but sure :)
[15:35] <OrGaizer> nothing in dmesg
[15:37] <joelio> OrGaizer: do you see anything when adding IDE devices?
[15:37] <joelio> tbh though, this is vmware support, not ubuntu issue
[15:38] <tgm4883> You can hot-add disks in vmware, you just need to scan for new devices
[15:39] <joelio> really, that's pretty poor, would expect that to be supported
[15:39] <tgm4883> http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/vmware-add-a-new-hard-disk-without-rebooting-guest.html
[15:39] <wastrel> hi <3  i installed 16.04 on new laptop, dual boot with windows, but broke windows booting.  http://paste2.org/f1vgIAcg
[15:39] <tgm4883> joelio: There's a way to do it automatically, but you've got to set it up
[15:39] <wastrel> pls to advice
[15:40] <tgm4883> joelio: which is probably how it is in KVM, it's just that it's set up to scan it by default
[15:40] <joelio> tgm4883: yea, tbh I just use kvm, so not dealty with that for a while
[15:40] <tgm4883> Yea I only use vmware at work. LXC at home
[15:40] <joelio> tgm4883: probably down to virtio-pci though
[15:40] <joelio> I wonder if using virtio-scsi it needs a scan too
[15:49] <w10id> Hello, I want to ask, better using nvidia driver or using noveau?
[15:51] <ubuntu_nub> can someone help me understand what I am doing wrong with my sshd configuration?
[15:51] <kidda> die
[15:52] <kereltis> Hi w10id, if you're gaming it's better to use the Nvidia driver.
[15:52] <kidda> this is awesome
[15:52] <joelio> ubuntu_nub: just ask the question, don't ask to ask ;)
[15:53] <ubuntu_nub> I have used puttykegen to create a pub and priv key pair on my windows box
[15:53] <ubuntu_nub> I have scp'd the public key to my server
[15:53] <kidda> u will have to install it again..
[15:53] <ubuntu_nub> i used cat publickey >> .ssh/suthorized_keys
[15:54] <ubuntu_nub> now when I connect from putty it tells me that my key is rejected
[15:54] <ikonia> look in the security log
[15:54] <ubuntu_nub> i did restart the service on my server as well
[15:54] <ikonia> the permissions are probably too open
[15:54] <ubuntu_nub> is that the auth.log?
[15:54] <ikonia> look at the permissions on the private key too
[15:54] <joelio> ubuntu_nub: ok, well firstly there's ssh-copy-id.. that handles the ssh key copying, no need to mess about with scping and appending
[15:54] <Pici> ubuntu_nub: you need to use puttykeygen to export a proper openssh key.
[15:54] <ikonia> I assume you have the private key loaded into pagent
[15:54] <joelio> ubuntu_nub: also, dod you ssh-add the private key on the client
[15:55] <EriC^^> ubuntu_nub: as ikonia said check the home dir that it's 750 and the .ssh and authorized_keys file
[15:55] <joelio> ubuntu_nub: finally, if you run with -v on ssh, you'll get more verbose info
[15:55] <ubuntu_nub> https://db.tt/mXTi6BhH
[15:55] <ubuntu_nub> thats what my putty setup is
[15:56] <ubuntu_nub> ok, let me check that
[15:56] <joelio> ah, you're on putty, ok
[15:56] <kidda> i cant install idle python 3.4 on ubuntu 16.04 lts?
[15:57] <ubuntu_nub> here are the permissions
[15:57] <ubuntu_nub> https://paste.ubuntu.com/23112329/
[15:57] <ubuntu_nub> does that look right?
[15:57] <ducasse> kidda: 16.04 has python 3.5
[15:57] <EriC^^> ubuntu_nub: set them to 600 for authorized_keys
[15:57] <Pici> kidda: and IDLE is shipped in the idle-python3.5 package.
[15:57] <EriC^^> ubuntu_nub: chmod 750 ~
[15:58] <EriC^^> ubuntu_nub: and chmod 770 ~/.ssh and chmod 600 ~/.ssh/authorized_keys
[15:58] <ubuntu_nub> ok
[15:58] <kidda> thanx
[15:58] <ubuntu_nub> done
[15:59] <EriC^^> ubuntu_nub: try ssh'ing
[15:59] <ubuntu_nub> still refused
[15:59] <ubuntu_nub> maybe restart service?
[15:59] <ikonia> do you have the private key loaded into pagent
[15:59] <EriC^^> ubuntu_nub: try cat /var/log/auth.log and see if it says anything
[15:59] <EriC^^> ubuntu_nub: nah it shouldn't need a restart
[16:00] <joelio> not sure auth.log would tell you that much unless you increased verbosity
[16:00] <joelio> or did it clientside
[16:00] <wastrel> .ssh/suthorized_keys != .ssh/authorized_keys
[16:00] <wastrel> but i assume that is an irc typo
[16:00] <EriC^^> joelio: it should mention ssh stuff i think
[16:00] <ubuntu_nub> Aug 30 08:59:27 ubuntu sshd[17555]: error: Received disconnect from 207.173.82.6                                                                                                                                                             8 port 37959:13: Unable to authenticate [preauth]
[16:00] <ubuntu_nub> Aug 30 08:59:27 ubuntu sshd[17555]: Disconnected from 207.173.82.68 port 37959 [                                                                                                                                                             preauth]
[16:00] <ubuntu_nub> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23112340/
[16:00] <joelio> it will, but to what level
[16:00] <kidda> Official Ubuntu Support Channel | IRC Guidelines: http://ubottu.com/y/gl | This channel supports: Ubuntu and its official flavors, versions 12.04, 14.04 and 16.04 | Unofficial derivatives: use your distro's support channel, not here. | IRC info: http://ubottu.com/y/irc | Pastes to http://paste.ubuntu.com/ | Download: http://ubottu.com/y/dl
[16:01] <ikonia> ubuntu_nub: do you have the private key loaded into pagent
[16:01] <ikonia> kidda: we know the topic,
[16:01] <ubuntu_nub> in putty?
[16:01] <ikonia> ubuntu_nub: in pagent
[16:01] <ubuntu_nub> this is what I have set
[16:01] <ubuntu_nub> i dont know what that is
[16:01] <ubuntu_nub> https://db.tt/mXTi6BhH
[16:02] <wastrel> chmod 600 .ssh/authorized_keys
[16:02] <ubuntu_nub> i did that wastrel
[16:02] <wastrel> kk
[16:02] <wastrel> i am slow
[16:03] <EriC^^> ubuntu_nub: try ssh -vvv user@host it might show what's going on
[16:03] <kidda> so if have any difficulty in installing mongodb , i can get support here?
[16:03] <jeboydennis> hello everyone, I am having some trouble with my AMD R9 390 card and Ubuntu 16.04. I ran some commands to explain the issue:  http://pastebin.com/5yt1x3C1
[16:03] <otrenav> Hi. Since I upgraded to 16.04 I've had a problem with windows moving around (dual monitor setup) when the computer goes to sleep. I have a Intel Xeon E3-1200 v3/4 Gen Card and I've been trying to fix this problem for various days now but I can't seem to find a way to do so. Any hints? Thanks!
[16:03] <jeboydennis> so basically no driver is picking up my graohics card
[16:03] <ubuntu_nub> how do I do that in putty? EriC^^
[16:03] <jeboydennis> because it says UNCLAIMED
[16:03] <EriC^^> ubuntu_nub: oh, forgot that it's putty
[16:03] <EriC^^> no idea
[16:04] <jeboydennis> and I can use the fglrx drivers because they are not supported in 16.04
[16:04] <EriC^^> ubuntu_nub: is there an "increase verbosity" option or something similar?
[16:05] <ubuntu_nub> EriC^^: like this? https://db.tt/fwxBXigv
[16:05] <kidda> can anyone help me install mongodb?
[16:06] <EriC^^> ubuntu_nub: yeah, try all session output
[16:06] <jeboydennis> kidda: Have you tried https://docs.mongodb.com/manual/tutorial/install-mongodb-on-ubuntu/ ?
[16:07] <wastrel> hi i broke windows boot with installing ubuntu how to fix pls http://paste2.org/f1vgIAcg
[16:07] <kidda> yes sir, I have done that
[16:07] <kidda> Error: mongod.service not found
[16:08] <EriC^^> wastrel: what happens when you choose windows from grub?
[16:08] <ducasse> kidda: if you are going to follow that tutorial, ask in a mongodb if you problems. only the official ubuntu packages are supported here
[16:08] <ubuntu_nub> EriC^^: login as: nani
[16:08] <ikonia> wastrel: what happened, what happens when you try to boot
[16:08] <ubuntu_nub> Server refused our key
[16:08] <ubuntu_nub> thats it
[16:08] <kidda> @wastrel
[16:08] <joelio> kidda: did you follow *all* of it? "(Ubuntu 16.04-only) Create systemd service file"
[16:09] <ikonia> joelio: of course not, why read a doc when you can pay no attention to it then ask for help
[16:09] <joelio> :)
[16:09] <wastrel> EriC^^: error screen of -> File: \EFI\Microsoft\Boot\BCD ; Status: 0xc000000d ; Info: An error occurred while attempting to read the boot configuration data.
[16:09] <ikonia> wastrel: does ubuntu still boot
[16:09] <EriC^^> wastrel: do you have a windows cd?
[16:09] <wastrel> ikonia: i ran ubuntu installer & resized windows, rebooted into windows - worked but no grub, ran boot repair, now ubuntu boots but windows not
[16:10] <wastrel> EriC^^: no
[16:10] <kidda> joelio yes, I also created data/db
[16:10] <joelio> you can't have done
[16:10] <joelio> otherwise there would be a unit for it
[16:11] <kidda> wastrel: I faced the same issue
[16:11] <kidda> I installed windows first and then ubuntu
[16:11] <kidda> grub bootloader and windows bootloader are not compatible
[16:11] <ikonia> kidda: he knows this
[16:12] <kidda> so only one of them will work
[16:12] <ikonia> kidda: I suggest you focus on your own problem
[16:12] <EriC^^> wastrel: it sounds like you need to repair the windows boot using a windows cd, you can download it for free online i think
[16:12] <ikonia> wastrel: so you now have grub booting ubuntu, but when it tries to boot windows you get the BCD error
[16:12] <wastrel> ya
[16:12] <RFleming> Greetings
[16:12] <RFleming> is there a way to force do-release-upgrade to a specific version?
[16:13] <ikonia> RFleming: it will offer the next available version
[16:13] <tgm4883> RFleming: probably not. What are you trying to accomplish
[16:13] <RFleming> ikonia, Not when the release is really old :)
[16:13] <joelio> RFleming: or a -d will do development...
[16:13] <ikonia> wastrel: so it looks like the boot data is misssing from egi
[16:13] <ikonia> efi
[16:13] <ikonia> RFleming: yes, it will
[16:13] <RFleming> I'm trying to upgrade 9.04 to 9.10, but it's trying to go right to 12.04
[16:13] <wastrel> efi is a headache
[16:13] <joelio> RFleming: waaaaaa?
[16:13]  * tgm4883 smacks head
[16:13] <EriC^^> !eolupgrades | RFleming
[16:13] <ikonia> RFleming: because 12.04 is the net available release
[16:14] <joelio> and in support still!
[16:14] <RFleming> yep
[16:14] <tgm4883> RFleming: ok I have to ask. Why are you trying to upgrade a 9.04 machine?
[16:14] <ikonia> wastrel: it can make life simple or really complex, it's not worked out how people thought
[16:14] <RFleming> Well, it was 8.10
[16:14] <RFleming> and I'm doing it for some laughs
[16:14] <joelio> eww, dist-upgrade cruft
[16:14] <joelio> not fun
[16:14] <RFleming> but seriously it's a production machine that used to run a CVS pserver through portmapper and xinetd
[16:14] <ubuntu_nub> EriC^^: any other thoughts?
[16:14] <joelio> just reinstall it!
[16:15] <RFleming> err.. it WAS a production machine
[16:15] <wastrel> if it's just for laughs you could do the (unsupported) thing of changing the release in the sources.list and upgrade
[16:15] <RFleming> thankfully, Engineering has decided to embrace GIT (and a new server)
[16:15] <tgm4883> RFleming: ok, well if it's just for fun, look at the eolupgrades link. If you actually need to use it, I'd install a new box and start moving stuff over
[16:15] <kidda> wastrel: Install Windows first
[16:16] <kidda> then install ubuntu from within Windows
[16:16] <tgm4883> no don't do that...
[16:16] <ikonia> kidda: please stop
[16:16] <RFleming> When trying to run do-release-upgrade, I'm getting attribute errors, to which I'm assuming are things relevant to precise, that jaunty has no clue about
[16:16] <ikonia> kidda: just focus on your own problem
[16:16] <kidda> its solved.
[16:16] <ikonia> kidda: great
[16:17] <tgm4883> kidda: then don't assist other people in things you don't know about
[16:17] <k1l_> wubi is not supported anymore.
[16:17] <kidda> so i want to return the favour
[16:17] <ikonia> kidda: you're not helping
[16:17]  * RFleming will try the unsupported change release in sources.list file until 10.04, then let it upgrade from LTS to LTS, perhaps that'll work better
[16:17] <kidda> how do you know?
[16:17] <ikonia> wastrel: so I may have missed this on the scroll back, but do you have the windows CD ?
[16:18] <joelio> RFleming: good luck!
[16:18] <kidda> I faced the same issue, and I found this solution worked
[16:18] <tgm4883> kidda: because you're recommending things that aren't supported anymore?
[16:18] <RFleming> joelio... hehe, thanks! this'll be fun!
[16:18] <RFleming> I want to see if it'll break
[16:18] <EriC^> ubuntu_nub: did the logs show anything?
[16:18] <RFleming> This is a cloned VM, and will be a read-only repository
[16:19] <ubuntu_nub> nope
[16:19] <ubuntu_nub> nothing
[16:19] <EriC^> ubuntu_nub: do you have another machine you can try logging in from to see if it's a putty issue?
[16:19] <EriC^> a free shell or something?
[16:19] <ikonia> just ssh localhost
[16:19] <kidda> I happened for me.
[16:19] <ikonia> from the ubuntu machine
[16:19] <kidda> It happened for me.
[16:19] <wastrel> ikonia: no windows CD
[16:19] <ikonia> kidda: yes you said that - your solution is not good,
[16:19] <kidda> wubi
[16:19] <ubuntu_nub> EriC^^: i could spin up one of my vms
[16:19] <wastrel> i will have to find one to download or something
[16:20] <ikonia> kidda: thank you for trying, but it's not a good suggestion
[16:20] <ikonia> wastrel: thats a pain, you'll need that to regenerate the BCD data
[16:20] <kidda> okkkAay
[16:20] <wastrel> windows :(
[16:20] <RFleming> thank goodness for old-releases.ubuntu.com
[16:20] <ikonia> wastrel: (the guys in ##windows may have another way of rebuilding the BCD data - but I don't know how without a windows CD)
[16:21] <EriC^^> ubuntu_nub: try on the machine itself as ikonia said
[16:21] <tgm4883> wastrel: what version of windows?
[16:21] <kidda> I have a dual boot machine, Windows and Ubuntu, but now I have run out of hard disk space for Windows, and there is no free space left, and the remaining is being used by ubuntu
[16:21] <kidda> Is there a way I can increase the hard disk space for windows?
[16:22] <EriC^^> kidda: yeah you can shrink the ubuntu partition from a live usb and increase the windows partition size
[16:22] <ikonia> kidda: boot from livemedia and resize with a tool such as gparted
[16:22] <kidda> Okay
[16:22] <kidda> I have not tried live usb
[16:22] <ubuntu_nub> ok whats the command for verbose -vv?
[16:22] <kidda> I tried gparted, did not work
[16:23] <ikonia> ubuntu_nub: just test it locally
[16:23] <EriC^^> ubuntu_nub: ssh -vvv user@host
[16:23] <kidda> But I have not tried livemedia and then use gparted.
[16:23] <DJones> kidda: But make sure you have backups, resizing while normally safe can cause a loss of data
[16:23] <EriC^^> kidda: can you show a screenshot of gparted?
[16:23] <tgm4883> kidda: is this on the box you installed via wubi?
[16:23] <DJones> kidda: You can't resize an active partition which is why you have to use a live media
[16:23] <ubuntu_nub> hows this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/23112518/
[16:24] <kidda> Okay, will resizing affect ubuntu or windows ?
[16:24] <ikonia> ubuntu_nub: you are missing the private key
[16:24] <wastrel> tgm4883: this system shipped with win 7 but i think i can upgrade to 10 with the license
[16:24] <kidda> I did not try using live media, I will do that and share the results
[16:25] <ubuntu_nub> ah, I dont know how to do it from the command line with the key
[16:25] <ubuntu_nub> let me check
[16:25] <tgm4883> wastrel: I think you'll need to download an ISO and burn it.
[16:25] <RFleming> joelio, jaunty to karmic went without a hitch... now for karmic to lucid
[16:26] <tgm4883> wastrel: As others have said. I think you'll need a CD to fix that
[16:26] <kidda> definitely a cd is needed
[16:26] <joelio> RFleming: yea, it boils down to what's installed on the box too.. juge stacks with lots of dpkg options is a recipe for cruft.. if not, fewer bins/config/customisation then more likely to be upgradable without headache
[16:27] <kidda> thats what i did
[16:27] <ubuntu_nub> how do I attempt to connect with the keyfile and not password?
[16:27] <RFleming> joelio, there isn't a lot on this box.  I understand there will be crud left over, and I don't really care.   The whole box is less than 40 GiB in a virtual environment
[16:27] <kidda> make sure you keep good amount space for both os
[16:28] <tgm4883> wastrel: IIRC, if you download and burn a windows ISO to a DVD, there is an option to repair the install
[16:28] <RFleming> I dreaded doing this upgrade years ago because cvs was sensitive, and I wasn't comfortable.  Now that it's no longer in production... I want to see if it'll go :)
[16:28] <joelio> RFleming: yea, prehaps I'm sullied with memories of dist-upgrading Exim servers from Potato to Etch back in t'day :)
[16:29] <RFleming> I don't think I'll be able to get this server past 14.04 though... since 16.04 goes to systemd
[16:29] <RFleming> I think that'll break a lot
[16:31] <daveomcd> i have a webserver on ubuntu server, how can i install microsoft fonts to it? I see there is a ttf-mscorefonts-installer package, but is that what i want to use? can i use it with a gui?
[16:33] <RFleming> daveomcd, ttf-mscorefonts-installer will download and install the Microsoft core fonts to your system (after you accept the ULA)
[16:33] <daveomcd> kk thanks!
[16:34] <wad> So I changed my network to use DHCP client for IP address only, and I manually specified my DNS. I restarted networking. But when I do "nmcli device show <interfacename>" it shows that it is using the wrong DNS. Ideas?
[16:35] <RFleming> wad, where did you manually specify your DNS?
[16:35] <pawiecki> Hi, i wonder if Ubuntu works well on nexus 4. I'm getting bored and want to try something new. Is it worth trying right now?
[16:35] <wad> In the "ipv4" tab of the network connection dialog.
[16:35] <EriC^^> !touch | pawiecki might be helpful
[16:35] <RFleming> pawiecki, https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/phone/devices/devices/
[16:35] <netvixtra> wad: it overwrites your resolv.conf by a mistake?
[16:36] <pawiecki> thanks
[16:36] <k1l_> pawiecki: its still teh development phone for ubuntu-touch. just try it (but you will need to wipe the whole device)
[16:36] <wad> The resolv.conf file didn't get any changes when I set the DNS.
[16:36] <wad> Maybe I need to reboot.
[16:36]  * wad reboots
[16:36] <netvixtra> didnt nexus 4 just get android 7?
[16:36] <pawiecki> k1l_: i have no problem with wiping devices ;)
[16:37] <tgm4883> netvixtra: no
[16:37] <RFleming> netvixtra, nope
[16:37] <netvixtra> to old hw?
[16:37] <pawiecki> netvixtra: hahaha, no :D
[16:37] <tgm4883> netvixtra: yes, and off topic for this channel
[16:37] <RFleming> netvixtra, nexus 5 isn't getting it either
[16:37] <kanevbgbe> Hello. Do someone know hot to prevent GUI lagging in Ubuntu 16.04 (it seems to happen only when window is maximized)?
[16:38] <pawiecki> kanevbgbe: be more specific, tell us more about hardware
[16:38] <RFleming> joelio, do-release-upgrade from 10.04.4 to 12.04.4 in progress :)
[16:38] <kanevbgbe> yes, xeon 5650, 24gb ram, quadro fx 1700
[16:38] <wad> That worked! Rebooting worked!
[16:38] <kanevbgbe> 850 ssd evo
[16:38] <james1138> Hello to the list from here in Indiana. I have a few questions about Banshee player. Is this where I can ask?
[16:39] <netvixtra> RFleming: bummer, nexus 6p isnt supported by ubuntu just yet
[16:40] <RFleming> ahh well :)
[16:40] <kidda> can i use the ubuntu 14.04 lts to change partition of 16.04 lts?
[16:40] <R13ose> I have YUMI MultiBoot USB running and I want to install Ubuntu, how do I do that with this?
[16:40] <RFleming> kidda, yes*
[16:40] <k1l_> kidda: yes.
[16:41] <RFleming> *depending on what filesystem you're modifying
[16:41] <RFleming> if you're 16.04 is using ZFS, then no
[16:41] <RFleming> unless you're going to install the ZFS userspace stuff on the live cd
[16:41] <kidda> zfs ?
[16:42] <RFleming> if you don't know what ZFS is, then I wouldn't worry about it :)
[16:43] <kidda> did not use zfs
[16:44] <kidda> so basically, you mean the file system is same, so I can use ubuntu 14.04 to change partition of 16.04
[16:45] <R13ose> Any thoughts on my question?
[16:46] <k1l_> kidda: dont get  confused. you can use a 14.04 cd/usb to resize
[16:51] <mypainter> hi! Anyone here know which package provides "powf" in (x)ubuntu16.04?
[16:51] <EriC^> !find powf
[16:52] <mypainter> :( no packages
 and <ubottu>: thanks
[16:52] <krytarik> !find powf
[16:53] <EriC^> mypainter: what does powf do?
[16:53] <mypainter> no idea; i think* it is a fortran power rasing function
[16:53] <mypainter> library
[16:53] <MonkeyDust> !info powf
[16:54] <OneM_Industries> Hi, so I'm trying to mount a drive that is usually in a windows machine, but I am getting an error. I suspect it is because it BSOD'ed repeatedly and was having multiple issues. http://pastebin.com/vHT1RPcz
[16:54] <mypainter> for faster computation time
[16:54] <OneM_Industries> Also, I need to get all data off this drive ASAP, as it is failing rapidly.
[16:54] <pukahey> hi
[16:55] <mypainter> hi <OneM_Industries> can you access it as a drive?
[16:55] <EriC^> OneM_Industries: try sudo mount -o ro /dev/sdc1 /mnt
[16:55] <mypainter> not as a full filesystem mount
[16:55] <pukahey> what linux should i put on a pc 2gb ram, video card- amd hd radeon 6570... i tryied to install ubuntu 14.04 i think once but it freezes at the login cause the video card..
[16:55] <EriC^> pukahey: any will work
[16:55] <EriC^> pukahey: try ubuntu 16.04
[16:56] <pukahey> it's not eating much ram right?
[16:56] <mypainter> +1 yes try ubuntu first
[16:56] <EriC^> 2gb should be ok
[16:56] <pukahey> ok
[16:56] <pukahey> ill try a dual boot :3
[16:56] <mypainter> if you have any issues, try the ubuntu derived xubuntu
[16:57] <tgm4883> mypainter: technically it's a flavor
[16:57] <R13ose> I have YUMI MultiBoot USB running and I want to install Ubuntu, how do I do that with this?
[16:57] <stevenm> is there need for putting 'NEED_IDMAPD=yes' in /etc/default/nfs-common now a redundant one (in 14.04 onwards) as I can see with just nfs-kernel-server installed - that rpc.imapd is running
[16:58] <kara_> names
[16:59] <peyolo> is pci=nomsi a problem ? it seems i have to use that to boot on ubuntu from my computer
[16:59] <kanevbgbe> pawiecki: xeon 5650, 24gb ram, quadro fx 1700
[17:00] <mypainter> tgm4883: is it that one can switch between them with the package system; what is the difference?
[17:01] <tgm4883> mypainter: yes, and they are officially approved
[17:01] <mypainter> ok
[17:01] <tgm4883> mypainter: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuFlavors
[17:02] <arght> hello all
[17:03] <arght> sorry to distub you guys knows why when i do an apt update since the morning i have
[17:03] <arght> W: Target Translations (partner/i18n/Translation-fr) is configured multiple times in /etc/apt/sources.list:45 and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/xenial-partner.list:4
[17:03] <arght> W: Target DEP-11 (partner/dep11/Components-amd64.yml) is configured multiple times in /etc/apt/sources.list:45 and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/xenial-partner.list:4
[17:04] <arght> W: Target Packages (partner/binary-amd64/Packages) is configured multiple times in /etc/apt/sources.list:45 and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/xenial-partner.list:4
[17:05] <arght> thx for your help
[17:05] <james1138> Can Banshee 2.9 run community extension 2.4?
[17:06] <k1l_> arght: remove the partner repo from the 3rd party repos in your systemsettings
[17:09] <arght> k1l_ you mean the restricted depot and the ppa of my driver ?
[17:10] <ducasse> stevenm: i _think_ it is needed if you want to run a v3 nfs server, but i'm far from sure.
[17:11] <k1l_> arght: "grep ^ /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* | nc termbin.com 9999"
[17:12] <k1l_> arght: please run that and show the output url in here
[17:13] <kidda> Thank you so much for the help
[17:14] <arght> k1l_: http://termbin.com/dy6q
[17:15] <n0had0> hi, i'm having a problem with locating openGL and im starting to think its maybe not installed
[17:15] <n0had0> or broken
[17:15] <k1l_> arght: remove the "partner" repo there. its already in the official source.list so no need to make an extra entry as 3rd party repo
[17:19] <nbastin> is there a way to emulate a uefi secureboot environment without actually having one?
[17:19] <n0had0> http://pastebin.com/wLWuUE7T
[17:19] <arght> k1l_: that works great thx
[17:20] <ducasse> nbastin: 'apt show ovmf' might give you what you want?
[17:20] <arght> but you know why there is a pb on the partner repository?
[17:20] <Cypher-Punk> Idk where to ask... My 6tb external harddrive came in NTFS, which shouldn't be possible. I want to split it into two partitions and format one half at a time into exFAT because it is about half filled with data. It tells me it's not a recognize filesystem though... What do? (I'm on Windows 7 until I can buy a linux-compatible wifi card for my laptop)
[17:21] <nbastin> ducasse: there's no way to get a guest ubuntu to enforce secure boot module signing and such without actually having a secureboot bios?
[17:21] <ikonia> Cypher-Punk: why is that not possible
[17:21] <ikonia> Cypher-Punk: try the ##windows channel
[17:22] <cscf> Anyone know of a tool to multithread encryption?  Trying to zfs send over ssh and ssh's encryption is a bottleneck
[17:22] <Cypher-Punk> ikonia - lol there's a windows channel? I'll go look
[17:22] <Cypher-Punk> ikonia - oh there is. I'll go there, thanks.
[17:24] <ducasse> nbastin: can ovmf not be used for that?
[17:27] <mikatone> is there any way i can test my fstab before reboot and get hanged by the neck?
[17:27] <ducasse> nbastin: it specifically says 'It includes full support for UEFI, including Secure Boot', so it should work
[17:27] <YankDownUnder> mikatone: sudu mount -a
[17:27] <nbastin> ducasse: no, that has to be used on a vm host to drive an ubuntu guest
[17:27] <nbastin> it can't be installed *in* the guest to convert ubuntu behaviour without changing the vm host
[17:28] <YankDownUnder> mikatone: Sorry - sudo mount -a
[17:28] <nbastin> ducasse: I mean in reality I'm not in a virtual machine, so there's nothing that this can do for me
[17:28] <nbastin> I just want ubuntu to adopt secureboot enforcement behaviour regardless of the bios
[17:29] <ducasse> nbastin: that is not possible, as it requires firmware support
[17:30] <tintin> nick
[17:30] <tintin> quit
[17:30] <k1l_> arght: pb?
[17:31] <arght> k1l_: it works good now but i can't do anymore upgrade from that repository right ?
[17:32] <k1l_> arght: no. you had that repo listed twice. i dont know why you made that repo list file manually. since it is already in the ubuntu sources.list.
[17:32] <k1l_> arght: i guess you followed a crappy howto
[17:33] <arght> oh i see thx
[17:34] <arght> so i just keep that check and delete one of the list source file completly ?
[17:34] <Mrokii> Hello. I have a problem possibly only concerning Kubuntu, but I'm not sure. I have installed Kubuntu 16.04 on a laptop and have tried to copy a large file to a USB stick (about 3 Gig). But the usb stick is dismounted automatically after some minutes, before the copying process is done. I wonder if there is something I can do to prevent this automatic dismounting.
[17:34] <k1l_> no
[17:34] <arght> ah ?
[17:34] <arght> you said that i have 2 lists
[17:35] <k1l_> arght: can you run "grep ^ /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* | nc termbin.com 9999"  again please?
[17:35] <arght> k1l_: http://termbin.com/b7u5
[17:36] <k1l_> arght: you did not change anything?
[17:37] <ioria> arght, this : /etc/apt/sources.list.d/xenial-partner.list   until the end, remove them
[17:38] <arght> k1l_: http://termbin.com/b7u5
[17:38] <k1l_> arght: the partner repo is already included in the "sources.list". but you (somehow) made another repo list in sources.list.d folder with again the same repo. that is wrong and that is what the error is telling you. you cant have that partner repo listed twice
[17:38] <arght> here my last one with the partner unchek in the repository lanager
[17:39] <k1l_> arght: so remove the one partner repo entry.
[17:39] <arght> K1rk: shoud i need to delete the source.list.d ?
[17:39] <ikonia> thats a directory
[17:39] <arght> oki i check that
[17:40] <modp> on Ubuntu 16.04 with Lenovo Ideapad P500, HDMI output to 2560x1440 monitor, but I can't select anything higher than 2048x1152 in Ubuntu. Any fix?
[17:40] <k1l_> arght: no. the /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ is a directory. you need to remove that file inside that directory.
[17:40] <arght> i mean i delete one of the list file
[17:41] <arght> k1l_: i found the folder i have 2 file in it xerial partner.list and xerial partner.list.save
[17:41] <k1l_> remove both
[17:42] <arght> oki
[17:44] <mikatone> how to force umount when: device is busy.(In some cases useful info about processes that use the device is found by lsof(8) or fuser(1))
[17:45] <EriC^> mikatone: are you cd'd into the mounted partition?
[17:45] <mikatone> nope
[17:45] <k1l_> mikatone: sudo lsof /dev/sd....
[17:45] <EriC^> try sudo lsof | grep /mountpoint
[17:46] <mikatone> outputs nothing
[17:47] <sudakshin> nick aswed
[17:52] <YankDownUnder> mikatone: You can try: sudo umount --force /dev/blahblahblah
[17:52] <mikatone> cool
[17:53] <mikatone> nope device busy
[17:53] <mikatone> well this is a davfs2 mountpoint
[17:53] <YankDownUnder> mikatone: Sometimes the "gvs" system is actually accessing the volume(s) - or some other "automount" program/utility
[17:54] <YankDownUnder> mikatone: So how does the "unmountable" device show up using the mount command?
[17:54] <mikatone> I have entry in fstab
[17:55] <mikatone> and mount /mountpoint
[17:55] <YankDownUnder> mikatone: What were you accessing the device with?
[17:55] <arght> k1thx i delete the files and check again the partener repository it works very well now
[17:55] <arght> thx
[17:56] <mikatone> IYankDownUnder with davfs2 client
[17:56] <mikatone>  
[17:56] <mikatone>  
[17:57] <gabriela> br
[17:57] <YankDownUnder> mikatone: And you've "killed" the davfs2 client, yes?
[17:59] <YankDownUnder> mikatone: Keep plugging away - I'm going to sleep. Cheers
[17:59] <mikatone> lol
[18:00] <mikatone> naturaly we all need to sleep at some point
[18:02] <pukahey> guys i can't install ubuntu 16 :(
[18:03] <teward> pukahey: that's not very useful, perhaps you'd like to elaborate on what issues you're having?
[18:03] <pukahey> same issue i was having with ubuntu 14 :( #amdsucks it's moving like 1fps/hour
[18:03] <pukahey> i think it's because my video card amd 6570 just sucks
[18:06] <cscf> Is there VPN that uses multiple threads to encrypt/decrypt?
[18:09] <tgm4883> pukahey: FWIW, the s in fps is seconds
[18:11] <spacebug^> Is Ubuntus network-manager changed from Debians version? Because in Debian if an interface does not get an IP from a DHCP server in 45 seconds, it timeouts and never tries again. Ubuntu on the other hand does try again, and again, and again. Or is there som other script in Ubuntu that does this?
[18:13] <manabulous> Hi, I've been posting online about some issues I've been having with apt-. Then I got bored of waiting for an answer so I tried to upgrade from a CD and then my system has been stuck at  the same place for about an hour now. How can I fix the upgrade or end it?
[18:14] <saml> what does   deb http://company/  ./  mean ?
[18:14] <saml> the last ./ part in sources.list.d
[18:14] <Comons> Hello, you  nice server irc quakenet org | #philosophy - #apple | web: http://ircmaster.org
[18:15] <BluesKaj> manabulous, trying to upgrade from a cd on an existing install won't work, you have to upgrade from the mirror repositories on the internet
[18:16] <manabulous> So how do I stop the install. It is stuck at
[18:16] <k1l_> saml: that should link to the release used.
[18:16] <manabulous> "saving installed packages"
[18:17] <DeakonFrost686> Hi to all
[18:17] <saml> k1l_, i don't understand
[18:17] <k1l_> manabulous: ctrl+c
[18:17] <k1l_> saml: the ./ would be "xenial" on a ubuntu repo
[18:17] <manabulous> k1l_ It doesn't do anything
[18:18] <k1l_> manabulous: what are you doing there at all exactly?
[18:18] <saml> deb https://github.company.net/project-name/raw/master/wily/ ./      that's in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/project-name.list
[18:18] <saml> should I replace ./  with xenial since i'm using xenial?
[18:19] <BluesKaj> manabulous, suggest you start over , and  make sure you have internet access when installing the OS , make sure you reformat the partition as well
[18:19] <k1l_> saml: i dont know if github works as repo, tbh
[18:19] <saml> there's no github.company.net/project-name/raw/master/xenial
[18:19] <manabulous> k1l_ I acessed the .iso file for 16.04 and then chose upgrade while keeping all my files. Then it got stuck
[18:19] <saml> yah first time seeing github used as repo
[18:19] <manabulous> BluesKaj How do I safely start over. Do I just shutdown the system? (FYI it's a virtual box guest)
[18:19] <Bray90820> Is there a terminal command that can show what partition your kernel is installed on
[18:20] <k1l_> saml: the ./ is the link instead of xenial.
[18:20] <BluesKaj> manabulous, the only way to do that is to have separate / and /home partitions
[18:20] <manabulous> BluesKaj ?
[18:20] <EriC^> Bray90820: df /boot
[18:20] <SCHAAP137> Bray90820: it's generally in /boot, try something like lsblk
[18:20] <saml> ah format is deb URL relativelink1  relativelink2 ?
[18:21] <BluesKaj> ok . a VM , well that's different, just start over and remove the present gueastr OS if it's still there
[18:21] <saml> anyways during apt update, i get 404 not found  https://github.company.net/project-name/raw/master/willy/ ./ Release
[18:21] <k1l_> saml: https://wiki.debian.org/RepositoryFormat
[18:21] <Bray90820> EriC^: Sorry I wanted the gpt number
[18:21] <saml> thanks
[18:22] <manabulous> BluesKaj I've been using this guest since January. If I shutdown the guest will all my files still be there?
[18:22] <EriC^> Bray90820: it should say it in the first column as /dev/sdxY
[18:22] <EriC^> Bray90820: you want hdx,gptY for grub?
[18:22] <manabulous> BluesKaj *If I shut it down while it is stuck
[18:23] <budder> hey everyone, i was just trying to install ubuntu but it froze after I selected the disk partition. i selected to partition 25gb but then it just froze before I hit the final confirmation. i rebooted back into window and just opened disk management and it has 23.25gb unallocated. what does that mean? does that mean it started to partition it? i don't recall if this was there before
[18:23] <BluesKaj> manabulous, don't sht it down , just remove the guest OS cd
[18:24] <Bray90820> EriC^:   no I want the kernel
[18:24] <Bray90820> EriC^: http://pastebin.com/raw/UmzRhp4i
[18:25] <manabulous> BluesKaj, That's what I thought. How do I remove it?
[18:25] <braggit> hello
[18:27] <EriC^> Bray90820: in df if it said /dev/sda4 then in grub it should be hd0,gpt4 usually, anyways in grub you can type ls to get a list of the partitions and check which one is the one you want with ls (hdx,gptY)/boot
[18:27] <BluesKaj> leave the instal by closing the VM, then remove the cd, manabulous
[18:28] <Bray90820> EriC^: The only dev I can find it /dev/mcblk0p2
[18:29] <EriC^> Bray90820: might be hd0,gpt2 then
[18:30] <EriC^> ls in grub will tell you for sure though
[18:30] <manabulous> BluesKaj Do you mean save the state of the machine? There are three options to close it save state, send shutdown signal, power off. I just want to double check
[18:30] <Bray90820> you mean the command line in grub?
[18:30] <Bray90820> edenist:
[18:30] <Bray90820> oops
[18:30] <Bray90820> EriC^:
[18:31] <EriC^> Bray90820: yes
[18:31] <budder> hey guys install froze after i selected to partition 25gb, but i did not get a chance to confirm and finalize. so i force shutdown and restarted back into windows. disk management shows 23.25gb unallocated space. is this related? what should I do now?
[18:32] <BluesKaj> manabulous, there's no point in saving state if the install is stuck, there must be a problem
[18:32] <manabulous> BluesKaj So which option should I choose when closing the VM?
[18:33] <BluesKaj> manabulous, just shut  the VM down , it's not working anyway
[18:33] <Bray90820> EriC^: ls gives me "(hd0) (hd0,gpt3) (hd0,gpt2) hd0,gpt1) (hd1) (hd2)"
[18:34] <saml> apt update hangs. is there a way to apt update but ignore things that are already in cache?  only want to update from newly added /etc/apt/sources.list.d/newfile.list
[18:35] <EriC^> Bray90820: ok, try ls (hd0,gpt2)/
[18:35] <Bray90820> EriC^: Will do
[18:36] <manabulous> BluesKaj I shut it down, now do I go into settings and remove the iso, or what?
[18:41] <saml> how can I apt update ignoring security?
[18:43] <MonkeyDust> !pin | saml start here
[18:43] <k1l_> just let the apt update run.
[18:44] <redbeardt> If my systemd networking.service is failing because "RTNETLINK answers: File exists", is it safe to assume that some other script has gotten in and set run ifup before the systemd unit got to it?
[18:44] <k1l_> saml: if you dont want a repo to be used comment it with a # in front in the sources.list
[18:44] <chesterfobitt> Hi
[18:46] <budder> guys installation got stuck as i selected to partition 25gb. so i rebooted back into windows and now disk management shows 23.25gb unallocated space on drive.
[18:47] <bumblefuzz> I'm routinely getting better than 23-24 hour battery life with Ubuntu MATE... is this right or is the system calculating things wrong
[18:47] <bumblefuzz> ?
[18:48] <tgm4883> bumblefuzz: that would be impossible to answer without knowing specs on your machine/battery
[18:48] <bumblefuzz> ubuntu proper gives me about 8 hour battery life
[18:49] <budder> can anyone advise
[18:49] <BluesKaj> manabulous, return to your Host OS dektop and then remove the cd
[18:49] <bumblefuzz> lenovo x260 with the rounded bottom battery pack
[18:50] <tdiesel> hello
[18:50] <tdiesel> Hello
[18:50] <tdiesel> someone here
[18:50] <Bray90820> EriC^: I don't think (hd0,gpt2) was correct
[18:50] <MonkeyDust> tdiesel  type    /names
[18:51] <bumblefuzz> wut
[18:51] <tdiesel> sorry for log out
[18:52] <bumblefuzz> aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhh
[18:52] <tdiesel> what
[18:52] <manabulous> BluesKaj Ok, done. The VM seems to be working as before. Thank you!
[18:52] <bumblefuzz> millions of logouts...
[18:52] <EriC^> Bray90820: try gpt3
[18:52] <tdiesel> yes
[18:53] <BluesKaj> manabulous, what is the guest OS
[18:53] <tdiesel> i will clear text
[18:54] <tdiesel> hello
[18:54] <saml> so this is company repo. I see Release file but no Release.gpg  or InRelease
[18:54] <manabulous> BluesKaj I also have problem with using apt-get update or upgrade or install. It says that there is an internal error and that "the package linux-headers-3.13.0-92 needs to be reinstalled but I cant find an archive for it" I don't know if you have a quick fix for this or if I should come back when I have more time
[18:54] <manabulous> BluesKaj It is 14.04 Ubuntu
[18:55] <tdiesel> vhfjghfjufhthvhfbukibkmjfud
[18:55] <ioria> !info linux-headers-3.13.0-92  trusty
[18:56] <tdiesel> what
[18:56] <MonkeyDust> tdiesel  stop
[18:56] <tdiesel> ok
[18:56] <BluesKaj> manabulous, are you familiar with apt or apt-get in the terminal?
[18:56] <tdiesel> I will log out
[18:57] <manabulous> BluesKaj yes, that's what I usually use to install new packages or get updates
[18:58] <manabulous> BluesKaj Now it seems to be missing a header and I don't know how to fix that
[18:58] <Neomex> i downloaded application that is an archive, how do i install it?
[18:59] <Sweepyoface> doesn't mint suck right now or something?
[18:59] <Sweepyoface> I forget the reason
[18:59] <ioria> Neomex, what is that ?
[18:59] <BluesKaj> manabulous, that's a kernel update/upgrade, sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade
[18:59] <Neomex> ioria pycharm
[19:02] <squinty> Neomex, installation details are shown @ https://www.jetbrains.com/pycharm/download/index.html#section=linux
[19:03] <ioria> Neomex, is that a tar.gz ?
[19:04] <ioria> Neomex,  if yes, just tar xfz pycharm-xxxx-xx-tar.gz   and then rad the README, you probably have to run a script
[19:04] <ioria> *read
[19:07] <saml> where do i put Acquire::AllowInsecureRepositories ?
[19:08] <manabulous> BluesKaj Still gives me the same error...
[19:08] <OneM_Industries> Ok, so the HUD is broken.
[19:08] <OneM_Industries> I can type stuff in, but when I try to click on it, it clicks on whatever is behind the HUD.
[19:14] <saml> I created /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/00allowinsecure   with  Acquire::AllowInsecureRepositories "true";   but apt update still does not work on insecure repo
[19:18] <BluesKaj> manabulous, http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/package/canonical_kernel_team/precise/main/base/linux-headers-3.13.0-92-generic
[19:19] <CacheMoney> what syntax would I use for grep ignore any line that does not have a number
[19:19] <CacheMoney> to*
[19:19] <BluesKaj> manabulous, nevermind it's the wrong repos
[19:21] <EriC^> CacheMoney: | grep -v [0-9]
[19:22] <BluesKaj> manabulous,  http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/package/canonical_kernel_team/trusty/main/base/linux-headers-generic
[19:27] <ivo34> hello this is my mobo: Asrock n68c-gsfx and this is my graphics card: geforce gtx 750ti and this my monitor:LG flatron L204WT-FS I am using ubuntu 14.o4.5LTS and struggling to get to hear sound with some applications.
[19:27] <ivo34> I installed pavucontrol
[19:27] <ivo34> there I can see a combo to switch from analogic to hdmi
[19:27] <ivo34> but it is not working
[19:27] <manabulous> BluesKaj Thanks, I've got to go, but I'll check out the link
[19:27] <BluesKaj> ivo34, which apps don't have sound?
[19:27] <ivo34> is there an easy way to tell my system I am not using hdmi for sound???
[19:28] <ivo34> ue4
[19:28] <ivo34> it only would work with hdmi speakers
[19:28] <ivo34> I tested that
[19:29] <ivo34> pavucontrol wont let me switch to analogic for ue4 despite being listed
[19:29] <dekonfrost686> hi to all
[19:29] <BluesKaj> ivo34, you have to set the audio output device in pavucontrol to something other than hdmi, perhaps analog
[19:31] <ivo34> BluesKaj,  the only other option available is Earphones?!!!
[19:31] <BluesKaj> ivo34, open alsamixer in the terminal , F6 , choose the soundcard inbstead of hdmi
[19:32] <BluesKaj> ivo34, esacpe, then sudo alsactl store
[19:32] <ivo34> done
[19:32] <ivo34> I ll test ue4 now
[19:33] <ivo34> well not now...
[19:33] <ivo34> it takes too long  to open and I need to go...
[19:33] <ivo34> i ll give you feedback other day
[19:33] <ivo34> thanks anyway
[19:36] <dekonfrost686> exit
[19:38] <Jan\> how do I make lubuntu auto-login ?
[19:40] <ioria> Jan\, not advisable , but  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutoLogin
[19:41] <energizer1> I have two different monitors with different resolutions
[19:41] <energizer1> Is it possible to scale them separately?
[19:42] <redbeardt> Da fuq. I swear I purged wicd and it's still running!
[19:43] <MonkeyDust> redbeardt  run this     sudo apt install aptitude && sudo aptitude purge ~c
[19:46] <redbeardt> MonkeyDust: What's the ~c do?
[19:47] <redbeardt> Looks a bit dangerous given that it doesn't even have the word 'wicd' in the command, but it has purge. ;)
[19:47] <ioria> redbeardt, wicd has a daemon wicd-daemon , you need autoremove
[19:49] <redbeardt> ioria: I did an autoremove though
[19:49] <redbeardt> ioria: I can see the wicd packages under dpkg --get-selections
[19:49] <ioria> redbeardt, yes, as 'ii' or 'rc'
[19:50] <ioria> redbeardt, sorry, dpkg -l | grep wicd
[19:50] <MonkeyDust> redbeardt  it purges not-completely-purged files, i've been using it for two years now
[19:50] <redbeardt> ii
[19:51] <ioria> redbeardt,  are you sure you purged ?
[19:51] <redbeardt> ioria: yep
[19:52] <ioria> redbeardt,  try again sudo apt-get purge wicd (and paste output) or do what MonkeyDust suggested
[19:52] <MonkeyDust> redbeardt  "match removed but not purged packages ~c" ... https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch02.en.html
[19:54] <redbeardt> MonkeyDust: The issue with me running that is that I don't recall whether there were packages I earlier removed but don't want the configurations and so forth of removed
[19:55] <redbeardt> ioria: Package 'wicd' is not installed, so not removed
[19:55] <MonkeyDust> redbeardt  the config files in /home stay untouched
[19:55] <redbeardt> I suppose I could just remove it with dpkg..
[19:55] <redbeardt> Oh
[19:56] <ioria> redbeardt,ps -A | grep wicd
[19:56] <MonkeyDust> redbeardt  yes, or with aptitude purge
[19:56] <redbeardt> wicd and wicd-monitor are running
[19:57] <ioria> !info  wicd-monitor
[19:57] <redbeardt> 82 packages listed by that command, MonkeyDust :O
[19:58] <anonV> Yo possies, anyone knows why when my VM is running i have some problems with sound
[19:58] <anonV> it gets noisy
[19:58] <redbeardt> MonkeyDust: Oh. Wicd isn't even listed.
[19:59] <TheAmorphous> Hey guys, another 14.04 refugee here.  Can someone give me a quick rundown of what exactly I need to do to back up an existing 14.04 installation before attempting the 16.04 update?  It seems like some pretty massive changes...
[20:00] <ioria> redbeardt, how did you install it ?
[20:01] <Cypher-Punk> Not sure what the heck usb wifi antenna to buy on amazon.
[20:01] <redbeardt> ioria: With apt!
[20:01] <ioria> redbeardt, sudo apt-get purge --auto-remove wicd-daemon
[20:02] <jessejames> I have problem with a proprietary driver for Nvidia Gtx 1070. My computer hangs itself all the time when using proprietary drivers, iv tried both stable and beta version but only the Nouveau driver works and it can recognize my GPU
[20:02] <jessejames> it cant recognize my GPU, so it kinda sucks
[20:03] <cscf> jessejames, have you tried the nvidia-367 from the driver team PPA?  That's what I needed for my 1060
[20:03] <jessejames> cscf yes i have
[20:04] <cscf> jessejames, what does dmesg/syslog say when it hangs?  Does the kernel hang or just video output?
[20:04] <redbeardt> ioria: Oh, that did something
[20:04] <redbeardt> ioria: Ah they're no longer running and they're also gone from dpkg --get-selections. That was the winner.
[20:05] <ioria> redbeardt, that's good
[20:05] <jessejames> how do i read from the Dmesg/syslog?
[20:05] <redbeardt> ioria: sorry apparently my wifi dropped out upon removing wicd heh
[20:05] <ioria> redbeardt, ^_^
[20:08] <Cypher-Punk> Anyone know a usb wifi antenna that's compatible on multiple operating systems? BSD, Linux and Windows?
[20:09] <k1l> !hcl | Cypher-Punk try a look there
[20:09] <redbeardt> Now back to my main issue of figuring out what's putting up my wifi interface before the systemd unit gets to it
[20:13] <marlax1g> ct
[20:15] <initram>  initinit
[20:17] <tripelb> ok question. i want to install ubuntu Or chroton on this cloudbook: acer aspire one 11 (windows 10. 32G ssd) -- need to ask (where?) if I can upgrade the ssd) the chromebook similar only has 16G.
[20:18] <daynaskully> it may be chip based ssd and not your typical "hard drive" ss
[20:18] <daynaskully> but idk
[20:19] <redbeardt> Damn.. How the hell am I gonna figure out what's calling ifup on my wifi interface before systemd does? Seems like a toughie.
[20:20] <redbeardt> syslog has nothing on it
[20:22] <k1l> redbeardt: "before systemd"?
[20:23] <redbeardt> k1l: systemd has a unit called networking.service that's supposed to handle the raising of network interfaces, and that unit is failing on my system because something else is raising them first
[20:25] <daynaskully> redbeardt, so if u turn off all networking and bring it up. does it work manually?
[20:26] <vivid> anyone have an idea where the XMODIFIERS env is being set?  ive set my input method to none using the GUI, but echo $XMODIFIERS still returns @im=ibus, which is causing some games to crash on XOpenIM()
[20:26] <daynaskully> cuz i just spent an hour messing with networkign and running back/forth to the dc only to realize i was configuring bridges for eth0 when i was plugged into eth1
[20:27] <redbeardt> daynaskully, I can't remember the commands to get it going manually, but surely if I turn off the inteface network-manager it won't work anymore :p
[20:28] <gahan> Hi. I have "AppArmor Message" that just won't disappear. What can I do?
[20:29] <redbeardt> Oh hell there's a unit right at the top that is simply named to raise my wifi interface. I must have a bloody systemd unit months ago and forgot!
[20:30] <k1l> redbeardt: yeah, i was asking if you changed something there. because that doesnt sound standard setup
[20:31] <redbeardt> k1l: indeed :p a default systemd unit failing certainly indicates as such.. Anyway, now to find out how I configured this unit and to get rid of it.
[20:32] <nicomachus> hi, lately I've been getting odd scroll behavior in chrome on a few different sites -- but not all. I can scroll a couple lines down, and then it will suddenly just start auto-scrolling very quickly to the bottom of the page. So there's no way for me to see the content. :/
[20:32] <nicomachus> different scrolling methods all produce the same behavior. Arrow keys, mouse wheel, page down/up, and just mouse clicking the scroll bar.
[20:34] <gahan> m
[20:41] <golem> hi
[20:42] <golem> i need a game recordind sistem for ubuntu
[20:43] <V7> golem: ?
[20:43] <nicomachus> golem: I would suggest googling it. This channel isn't really here for software recommendations.
[20:43] <V7> Game recording ?!
[20:44] <golem> yes
[20:44] <V7> System o.o ?!
[20:44] <golem> woops
[20:44] <V7> Gorith: http://askubuntu.com/questions/100053/fraps-like-programs-for-ubuntu
[20:45] <V7> oops, golem, http://askubuntu.com/questions/100053/fraps-like-programs-for-ubuntu
[20:49] <mikatone> hi everything i throw at rc.local gets executed after network mounts and apache right?
[20:49] <mikatone> I mean network, mounts...
[20:51] <molan> can i get some help with ubuntu?
[20:51] <abaldygl3> What kind of help?
[20:52] <molan> so im running my pc off of a dual boot but ubuntu doesnt like my wifi card
[20:52] <nicomachus> what's the wifi card?
[20:52] <nicomachus> chipset number, if you have it.
[20:52] <molan> i have the drivers but i cant install them into linux because i cant boot in
[20:52] <molan> 7265
[20:52] <nicomachus> that's not the chipset.
[20:52] <nicomachus> are you in ubuntu now?
[20:52] <molan> oh my bad
[20:52] <molan> no im in windows arm
[20:52] <k1l> the intel card? does it need drivers at all? that should work with the kernel, right?
[20:53] <nicomachus> k1l: it should.
[20:53] <elliot-59> hey guys, i have a weird process from user debian-tor, cant kill it, and the summon command says runasdaemon... wtf is going on
[20:53] <k1l> molan: so you are on arm architecture, which is a difference in some was.
[20:53] <molan> it does need drivers it gives me a unsupported splx structure
[20:53] <nicomachus> elliot-59: are you running Tor?
[20:54] <elliot-59> not at the moment
[20:54] <nicomachus> but it is installed?
[20:54] <elliot-59> yeah
[20:55] <elliot-59> its just weird i cant kill it, and im not running tor right now
[20:55] <nicomachus> elliot-59: it autostarts as a daemon, meaning that it runs in the background. You can go to /etc/default/tor and change RUN_DAEMON="yes" to RUN_DAEMON="no"
[20:55] <molan> also im getting this error: cant request region for resource [mem 0xfed40080-0xfed40fff]
[20:56] <molan> on boot
[20:56] <mikatone> I want to execute a script after apache starts can i put it on rc.local ?
[20:56] <sankar> Hello
[20:56] <nicomachus> elliot-59: alternatively, you can run "sudo systemctl disable tor.service" from terminal.
[20:56] <mikatone> I suspect so but can I?
[20:56] <mikatone> anybody?
[20:56] <nicomachus> elliot-59: that second option is assuming you're on 15.04 or later, with Systemd instead of upstart.
[20:57] <elliot-59> im on 16.04
[20:57] <nicomachus> ok, then it should work just fine.
[20:58] <molan> im getting this error on boot any ideas?: cant request region for resource [mem 0xfed40080-0xfed40fff]
[20:58] <sankar> Hello, Can any one point me right direction please, issue with GRUB Boot loader
[20:59] <cike> почему критическая ошибка выскакивает на свежей 16,04 LTS?
[20:59] <elliot-59> nicomachus: nope, process still there, cant be killed
[20:59] <elliot-59> im gonna reboot see if that helps brb
[20:59] <genii> !ru | cike
[20:59] <paranoidabhi> HI
[21:00] <paranoidabhi> I am a new to open-source and linux in general. I tried my hands at project. If possible can someone give feedback.
[21:00] <nicomachus> elliot-59: ok, did you try editing the /etc/ file?
[21:00] <elliot-59> yeah
[21:00] <elliot-59> changed it to no
[21:01] <k1l> paranoidabhi: i guess that better suits into #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:01] <nicomachus> paranoidabhi: try in #ubuntu-offtopic or even ##linux
[21:01] <paranoidabhi> Posting link: https://github.com/abhigenie92/unattended_upgrades_repos . Please have a look:)
[21:01] <notbob> Hi
[21:01] <paranoidabhi> nicomachus, okay thanks
[21:01] <notbob> Well.... what OS are you using??
[21:02] <gamer> hi
[21:02] <notbob> BackBox any1??
[21:02] <notbob> any1 got BackBox??
[21:02] <Bray90820> EriC^: You prob have no idea what's going on but it turns out it actually is 0,2 but still won't boot correctly
[21:02] <k1l> !backbox | notbob
[21:02] <molan> can anyone help me with the error: cant request region for resource [mem 0xfed40080-0xfed40fff] after trying to boot ubuntu?
[21:03] <TheNH813> How do I FORCE wine to ALWAYS use pulseaudio. It always uses the wrong soundcard every time I reopen a program with alsa. I need it to route through pulseaudio.
[21:04] <TheNH813> Having over 5 sound input devices dosen't help, but there has to be a way to make it use pulseaudio. I can set persistant sound settings with pavucontrol tthen.
[21:04] <TheNH813> *output devices
[21:04] <paranoidabhi> weird is linux a invite only channel. :/
[21:04] <TheNH813> Go to ##linux
[21:04] <TheNH813> That's the public one
[21:05] <gamer> hry
[21:05] <gamer> hi
[21:05] <TheNH813> Hello.
[21:05] <sankar> hi
[21:05] <gamer> DID EVERYONE FUCK SOMEONE YET?
[21:05] <gamer> DID EVERYONE FUCK SOMEONE YET?
[21:05] <gamer> DID EVERYONE FUCK SOMEONE YET?
[21:05] <gamer> DID EVERYONE FUCK SOMEONE YET?
[21:05] <TheNH813> What the.....
[21:05] <molan> rp
[21:05] <sankar> lol
[21:05] <TheNH813> Spammers. XD
[21:05] <notbob> lol
[21:06] <molan> ubuntu has been giving me a headache for the past 3 days
[21:06] <Bray90820> Is it posable that nomodeset would have to be set after install of ubuntu but not on the live disk
[21:06] <TheNH813> Yup
[21:06] <Bray90820> TheNH813: Why is that
[21:07] <molan> SHIT THAT MIGHT BE WHAT IM NOT DOING
[21:07] <TheNH813> The LiveCD uses VES I think, which dosen't have problems bu lacks acceleratioon
[21:07] <TheNH813> *VESA
[21:07] <paranoidabhi> My project(short code) aims at making automatic upgrading simpler. I found no relevant ones that did it. If you are looking for make auto upgrading, have a look. :D
[21:07] <TheNH813> When ti does the configure hardware thing it sets the right driverf
[21:07] <molan> ok so where would i put nomodeset after installing?
[21:07] <TheNH813> Into /etc/default/grub.cfg
[21:07] <sankar> link please paranoidabhi
[21:08] <TheNH813> Find the commandlane linux line and add nomodeset to the end
[21:08] <k1l> molan: nomodeset is not common on arm hardware. its more for pc hardware
[21:08] <molan> oh i cant boot past grub
[21:08] <Bray90820> TheNH813: well then maybe you can tell me why the live disk boots past try ubuntu without installing like 1 out of 10 times
[21:08] <paranoidabhi> sankar, https://github.com/abhigenie92/unattended_upgrades_repos :)
[21:08] <k1l> molan: what arm hardware is that?
[21:08] <molan> i had to use nomodeset to even get to install
[21:09] <molan> kil: how do i check?
[21:09] <k1l> paranoidabhi: this is offtopic in here. no further warning.
[21:09] <k1l> molan: what hardware do you use?
[21:09] <TheNH813> Bray90820: Oh no, are you using ancient integrated AMD or Intel graphics?
[21:09] <sankar> will check it out
[21:09] <molan> im using a asus Gl552vw
[21:09] <paranoidabhi> k1l, ok. thanks for pointing it out.
[21:09] <paranoidabhi> sankar, sure
[21:09] <molan> i7-6700hq gtx960m
[21:10] <Bray90820> TheNH813: Intel HD Graphics (Atom Processor Z36xxx/Z37xxx Series Graphics & Display)
[21:10] <k1l> molan: that is no arm hardware. why did you say its arm hardware?
[21:10] <molan> i did?
[21:10] <TheNH813> Bray90820: I'l look up the correct option
[21:10] <molan> my bad
[21:10] <k1l> molan: so that sounds like you need nomodeset for booting and then isntall the nvidia driver
[21:11] <k1l> !nomodeset | molan
[21:11] <Bray90820> TheNH813: I have a correct install of ubuntu 16.04 but i need to use nomodeset to boot it
[21:11] <molan> thanks guys!
[21:11] <TheNH813> Bray90820: Is the display at the right resolution?
[21:12] <redbeardt> k1l: so about those systemd units I mentioned earlier. There's no way I wrote that other unit and I have no idea why it's there. Somehow I ended up with two systemd units trying to put up my network interfaces. :| I just disabled one of them and all is well. Still, bizarre.
[21:13] <Bray90820> TheNH813: Yes
[21:14] <TheNH813> Do you have the latest version of Mesa and the Intel driver installed (xorg intel).
[21:16] <Bray90820> TheNH813: I don't think so How would I install the stuff in this xorg folder
[21:16] <Bray90820> https://github.com/burzumishi/linux-baytrail-flexx10
[21:18] <TheNH813> One secons
[21:21] <TheNH813> Bray90820: Almost got it
[21:22] <Bray90820> TheNH813: Just Let me know
[21:25] <TheNH813> sudo apt-get install --reinstall xserver-xorg-core libgl1-mesa-glx libgl1-mesa-dri libegl1-mesa-lts-xenial
[21:25] <TheNH813> Bray90820: sudo apt-get install --reinstall xserver-xorg-core libgl1-mesa-glx libgl1-mesa-dri libegl1-mesa libglapi-mesa libgles1-mesa libgles2-mesa mesa-utils
[21:26] <TheNH813> Ignore the first one
[21:26] <TheNH813> That should reinstall (or install) and configure mesa
[21:26] <Bray90820> What do you mean ignore the first one?
[21:26] <TheNH813> I pasted two lines
[21:26] <Bray90820> Oh yea you id
[21:26] <Bray90820> I get you now
[21:28] <Bray90820> Should i then not need to boot with nomodeset?
[21:29] <Bray90820> TheNH813: should I then not need to boot with nomodeset?
[21:32] <Bray90820> TheNH813: I need to get going for now but have a look at this this is what I am supposedly suppose to do for my specific device but I couldn't get it working  http://pastebin.com/raw/UmzRhp4i
[21:33] <Bray90820> The other code you gave me didn't seem to work
[21:37] <transhuman> Hi I read something about radeon R5 internal to cpu video card can use an intel driver is that right? for ubuntu 16.04?
[21:38] <TheNH813> Bray90820: What did it say?
[21:38] <Jan\> is there a way lubuntu can remember the sudo password for the session ? seems like I have to type the password a lot
[21:39] <TheNH813> sudo -i
[21:39] <tgm4883> Jan\: I believe it should remember it for 15 minutes
[21:39] <tgm4883> by default
[21:39] <Bray90820> it didn't say anything it just booted to a blank screen like I needed nomodeset
[21:39] <Bray90820> TheNH813:
[21:41] <Jan\> tgm4883: how do I change it to session by default ?
[21:41] <bray90820_> The install seemed to work properly tho
[21:41] <tgm4883> Jan\: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudoTimeout
[21:41] <TheNH813> bray90820_: May need a more obscure v ideo otpion. I'l lok it up
[21:42] <bray90820_> Ok i'm not at my tablet so i cant test anything out
[21:43] <rpg> I'm interested in making an Ubuntu derivative for a class I am teaching. I'd like to use UCK, but I need to supply some software that can't be installed with apt-get. Is this possible?
[21:43] <rpg> By Ubuntu derivative, I mean a bootable CD.
[21:44] <TheNH813> bray90820_: Try using these boot options: nomodeset noaccel=true xforcevesa
[21:45] <bray90820_> TheNH813 did you look at the xorg link i sent you
[21:46] <TheNH813> The github link?
[21:47] <ajikny> tomreyn: there?
[21:47] <Lauras> Hello, what different between "sudo apt install -y php" and without -y, don't need confirm..?
[21:47] <ajikny> tomreyn: pm?
[21:48] <MonkeyDust> Lauras  -y means yes
[21:48] <TheNH813> bray90820_: Actually, I have another option I want to add: nomodeset noaccel=true xforcevesa intel_pstate=disabled
[21:48] <Lauras> understand, thank you
[21:48] <TheNH813> bray90820_: Try that. I will likely boot with those options.
[21:49] <Solarlux3> WHat is neo account?
[21:49] <Solarlux3> in linux?
[21:49] <k1l> Lauras: on single package install there is no question to be answered. but if it will install several pacakges it will ask and halt if you dont answer
[21:49] <bray90820__> I will when i get home
[21:49] <Solarlux3> what neo means?
[21:49] <bray90820__> TheNH813 i will try that when I get home but did you look at the xorg stuff i sent you
[21:50] <TheNH813> The github link?
[21:50] <energizer> Does anybody know how to configure a vpn client?
[21:50] <abaldygl3> Lauras:  easy then to write a script such as     sudo apt update sudo apt install -y dkms sudo apt install -y build-essential for instance on a new install
[21:50] <MonkeyDust> !vpn | energizer start here
[21:51] <Zeranoe> So Ubuntu/Linux doesn't support 'inherent' folder permissions?
[21:51] <Lauras> Ok Guys, i just want know or i think right, thanks
[21:51] <tomreyn> ajikny: hi, what's up?
[21:51] <TheNH813> bray90820__:  Do you mean the github link and pastebin?
[21:51] <Lauras> i just couple things run on server and i leave it alone
[21:51] <bray90820__> The gethub yes
[21:52] <bray90820__> TheNH813 the gethub yes
[21:52] <TheNH813> Yeah, use the kernel boot options it says and add the "nomodeset noaccel=true xforcevesa intel_pstate=disabled" to the end of it. That way it can boot up at least and you can follow the tutorial on that GitHub page.
[21:52] <jfcaron> I hate how you can't scroll a pdf with the print dialog open, if you want to look for specific pages to print.  I have to write the page numbers on a piece of paper.
[21:53] <jfcaron> C'mon computers.
[21:53] <TheNH813> jfcaron: Install Foxit Reader. It ahs a print preview
[21:53] <bray90820__> TheNH813 well it already boots with nomodeset
[21:54] <TheNH813> I'd follow that guide then if it boots. The other options may help if the graphics act buggy.
[21:54] <MonkeyDust> jfcaron  writing on a piece of paper, how old-skool!     sarcastic mode off
[21:55] <jfcaron> I could write the numbers in a text editor but that's even more awkward.
[21:56] <TheNH813> Ah, sorry. Guess Foxit discontinued the Linux version.
[21:56] <jfcaron> Speaking of awkward, ever typed the word "awkward"?
[21:56] <TheNH813> That is a wierd word to spell
[21:57] <YankDownUnder>  "weird" not "wierd".
[21:57] <jfcaron> Etymologically looks like "person who protects the awk on behalf of the king".
[21:57] <jfcaron> Like woodward.
[21:57] <bray90820__> TheNH813how would I install the stuff in the xorg folder from gethub
[21:58] <rpg> jfcaron: No, it's "in the direction of the auk," but uses a variant spelling of auk.
[21:58] <jfcaron> The bird?
[21:58] <rpg> jfcaron: Indeed!
[21:59] <jfcaron> What an aukward way to describe a direction.
[21:59] <rpg> As in "windward, leeward, and awkward."
[21:59] <jfcaron> I mean, what if the auk moves?
[21:59] <rpg> So does the wind!
[21:59] <jfcaron> Oh it's a situational direction, I see.
[21:59] <TheNH813> bray90820__: Copy it to the right folder, I think. Xorg stores stuff in /usr/share/xorg
[22:00] <rpg> jfcaron: Can you tell there's something more important I don't want to be doing?
[22:00] <jfcaron> ^_^ I'm reading a boring paper from 1997.
[22:00] <TheNH813> That's a good year. I was born then.
[22:00] <TheNH813> XD
[22:00] <TheNH813> bray90820__: It says right in the folder for xorg on github. "/usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d"
[22:01] <TheNH813> If that's what oyu meant
[22:01] <jfcaron> quote:  "approximately 1.5x10^14 stopped muons, and about 5x10^8 events written to tape."  TAPE
[22:01] <jfcaron> My boss has boxes and boxes of tapes in the lab.  We have no machines to read them.
[22:02] <riverswood> Is it safe to delete the hidden folders to fix problems in home folder?
[22:02] <jfcaron> riverswood: You might lose settings, save games, things like that.
[22:03] <bray90820__> TheNH813 So just replace Xorg folder with Xorg folder?
[22:05] <TheNH813> Put the files from https://github.com/burzumishi/linux-baytrail-flexx10/tree/master/xorg/usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d into /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/
[22:05] <TheNH813> Don't delete anything that's already there. You also might want to see if there's a discussion forum thread on this topic somewhere.
[22:06] <TheNH813> Sorry if I multi posted, my IRC reconnected about 5 times, and I ahve no idea what it sent.
[22:06] <ajikny> i have an intersting problem to solve. I just upgraded the server form ubuntu 12.04 to 14.04. As soon as the upgrade got over, which went smooth,
[22:06] <ajikny> After the reboot the keyboard and mouse stopped working.
[22:06] <ajikny> After the reboot the keyboard and *network stopped working
[22:06] <ajikny> so i neither i can ssh into the server nor can i type anything.
[22:06] <ajikny> What can i do??
[22:07] <TheNH813> Shouldn't be running the MEGA.nz sync while using IRC. My upload is bad enough as it is. XDDD
[22:09] <lordcirth> ajikny, you could try booting to recovery from Grub.
[22:09] <bray90820__> TheNH813if you could send the message again and ping me this time that would be great
[22:10] <TheNH813> bray90820__: Put the files from https://github.com/burzumishi/linux-baytrail-flexx10/tree/master/xorg/usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d into /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/
[22:10] <TheNH813> Don't delete anything that's already there. You also might want to see if there's a discussion forum thread on this topic somewhere.
[22:11] <bray90820__> Thanks
[22:11] <bray90820__> Ill try it out when i get home
[22:11] <TheNH813> You're welcome.
[22:12] <JAY6390> Hi everyone. does anyone know how I can re-install apt itself?
[22:13] <Jan\> dont you just want to reset apt config ?
[22:13] <JAY6390> er… no lol
[22:13] <JAY6390> Doing an upgrade on a 10.04.4 lts server
[22:13] <JAY6390> or trying
[22:13] <JAY6390> and it’s removed a crap ton of packages
[22:13] <JAY6390> including apache, apt etc
[22:14] <JAY6390> so I need to install apt again so I can re-install those
[22:14] <TheNH813> bray90820__: Just a heads up, the instructions mention compiling a new kernel.
[22:14] <bray90820__> In the kernel folder?
[22:15] <JAY6390> Jan\: apt-get
[22:15] <JAY6390> -bash: /usr/bin/apt-get: No such file or directory
[22:15] <TheNH813> bray90820: They have a special config to compile a kernel with. I think it's optional though.
[22:15] <TheNH813> As well as cutom patches
[22:16] <Jan\> JAY6390: hey don't ask me for support, i was just asking
[22:16] <TheNH813> bray90820__: But that's not an easy task at all. IF you can get it working without, I'd reccommend that.
[22:16] <JAY6390> Oh OK sorry Jan\ I thought you knew :)
[22:16] <bray90820__> Alright
[22:17] <bray90820__> I'll try it when i get home thanks
[22:17] <TheNH813> bray90820__: Start with trying the reccommend configs and drivers installed. If you need to compile a kernel, I reccommend getting help on a forum that deals with that kind of thing.
[22:17] <Neytiri> hi i am truing to make a USB install drive from my system and i keep getting the error "An uncaught exception was raised: Invalid version string 'GNU/Linux'"
[22:17] <TheNH813> bray90820__ all goes well. I wish you the best of luck.
[22:17] <bray90820__> TheNH813 thanks
[22:18] <Jan\> how do I make lubuntu scroll-bar wider ?
[22:19] <YankDownUnder> Jan\: That's a "theme" thingo.
[22:19] <Jan\> YankDownUnder: yeah how do I change it ?
[22:19] <YankDownUnder> Jan\: Change the theme...? That would be in the settings, preferences, appearance...
[22:20] <Jan\> lubuntu uses lxde ?
[22:20] <TheNH813> Jan\: You could make a copy of the default theme, or anther theme you like, edit the scroll bar icon, and install the theme.
[22:20] <Jan\> YankDownUnder: I said LUBUNTU
[22:20] <YankDownUnder> Jan\: LUbuntu = LxDE + Ubuntu
[22:20] <TheNH813> I think there's a folder with LXDE's themes. You could copy one to a new named folder, and edit the icons to your content.
[22:20] <Jan\> ok
[22:21] <TheNH813> Or just download a theme with a larger scroll bar
[22:22] <Jan\> YankDownUnder: where is settings ? all I see is preferences from the left menu on the taskbar
[22:22] <kante> hi @all, I recovered many deleted files with photorec, now I have many ecryptfs files. how do I decrypt them?
[22:22] <Jan\> there is no appearance shortcut either
[22:23] <arght> hello
[22:24] <YankDownUnder> Jan\: http://lubuntuhowto.blogspot.com.au/2016/02/how-to-change-themes-on-lubuntu.html
[22:24] <arght> did you guys know how we can list all the files in a folder recursively plz ?
[22:24] <Jan\> YankDownUnder: ah great! ty
[22:24] <danny_> Is it possible to get the ask toolbar on linux?
[22:24] <arght> i would like to apply some changes on all my files that is in a folder and there is plenty of folders inside
[22:25] <YankDownUnder> arght: "tree"
[22:26] <YankDownUnder> danny_: "On linux" - you do mean in your browser...right? And you're aware that it's "adware", right?
[22:26] <craigbass76> I was trying to configure mysql while someone else had logged in and tried installing phpmyadmin. So, we're hosed. I'm removed mysql-server by apt purge mysql-server, reinstalled. Nothing. rm -rf both /etc/mysql and /var/lib/mysq* THEN apt-get remove mysql-server, and still when I run the uninstall I get prompted to enter a new root mysql pass, almost like it's installing.
[22:26] <craigbass76> How to I get back to zero
[22:27] <danny_> YankDownUnder, Java usually took care of giving it to me on windows.  It doesn't appear to be in the repos either
[22:27] <danny_> at this point its just tradition
[22:28] <YankDownUnder> danny_: Have fun with that.
[22:28] <danny_> YankDownUnder, I'll probably just run ie through wine and try to put it on that
[22:28] <danny_> or a vm
[22:30] <tgm4883> wait. Someone actually wants the ask toolbar O_o
[22:30] <craigbass76> And... after also apt purge removing mysql-server-5.xx, when I reinstall mysql-server I get prompted to set the root mysql pass three times. Eh?
[22:31] <craigbass76>  mysql-server-core-5.7 was another package I uninstalled.
[22:33] <riverswood> jfcaron but its safe if you just did a fresh install and the backup restored the hidden folders too... I guess if you don't want the old settings and start new then it is safe right?
[22:34] <jfcaron> riverswood: Yes, in that case it should be safe.
[22:34] <riverswood> cool
[22:35] <riverswood> I already did it just wanted to make sure
[22:35] <riverswood> I noticed my video players were choppy playing with the old settings too
[22:35] <riverswood> now since I removed it since I want to start out fresh the video it working great now
[22:38] <L72g5sSq> Let's say I have some USB device and some Python program using it via the PyUSB core library. I want to make the program usign the device to check if any other process is using the device. How can I check this? The PyUSB library uses libusb. Is there a file that linux opens for writing when the device is in use?
[22:43] <idententy__> hello
[22:44] <idententy__> someone is here
[22:44] <idententy__> leaving
[22:44] <lordcirth> idententy__, why?
[22:44] <lordcirth> !ask | idententy__
[22:45] <idententy__> im trying hex chat
[22:45] <idententy__> hexchat
[22:48] <emersont1_> Hi
[22:48] <idententy__> hi
[22:49] <idententy__> emersont1
[22:49] <emersont1_> is there any practical difference between installing Ubuntu 1604 server and installing XFCE and installing Xubuntu?
[22:51] <lordcirth> emersont1_, if you install the xubuntu-desktop package, not just XFCE, they should be similar.  But I imagine you'll be missing a few packages that Xubuntu ships.
[22:51] <idententy__> well for me is all have vantages and devantages sorry for my bad english but yes is a diference
[22:51] <idententy__> yes bassicly
[22:51] <emersont1_> right, is the ubuntu server install graphical or CLI?
[22:52] <idententy__> i dont no
[22:52] <OerHeks> xubuntu has an additional set of packages and customizations to make the xfce experience more rich
[22:52] <emersont1_> are they worth it?
[22:53] <idententy__> yes is this but have vantages and devantages
[22:53] <idententy__> well i have to leave
[22:55] <emersont1_> are there any packages ubuntu server comes with that i won't need?
[22:56] <Rarrikins> emersont1_: That's hard to tell. We don't know what you need.
[22:56] <OerHeks> maybe a few bytes, those does not bother me
[22:56] <Rarrikins> emersont1_: If you want, you can install Ubuntu Core, then add what you need, though that takes a lot of time and patience.
[22:57] <emersont1_> normal libraries for SSH and C++ Development (GCC, git, SSH &C)
[22:59] <emersont1_> is "snappy" the ubuntu core you speak of?
[22:59] <Rarrikins> emersont1_: No, it's Ubuntu with just the command line.
[22:59] <Rarrikins> emersont1_: Not even the server stuff.
[23:00] <vbotka> emersont1_, if you need a desktop Xubuntu is good choice. I use it over 3 years. Otherwise it's flexible.
[23:00] <emersont1_> Rarrikins: my point is, where do i download it
[23:00] <Rarrikins> emersont1_: Let me see.
[23:00] <vbotka> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors
[23:01] <tgm4883> !mini
[23:03] <emersont1_> but the installation isn't as complex as arch?
[23:03] <linux> Hi
[23:09] <romrider7> Hi all... have just d-loaded and installed schrew soft vpn UI.. what to do next is unknown to me just now.. I need some data from (?) to enter into this client for it to work.. pse give some tips/assistance...[p.s. have been being screwed around a fair bit on win10 the last few weeks and so have switched to 16.04 and need to use a vpn for sure.]
[23:09] <lordcirth> emersont1_, minimal is simpler than Arch, yes.  Not that Arch is that complex if you have the checklist open
[23:11] <lordcirth> romrider7, what data does it want, other than the obvious connection details?
[23:11] <OerHeks> romrider7, sure there is a manual where you downloaded that package
[23:12] <romrider7> OerHeks: please point me to the manual.. (I am war disabled with no name-memory.. makes things real difficult some times..)
[23:12] <lordcirth> romrider7, https://www.shrew.net/support/Main_Page
[23:13] <romrider7> lordcirth: those connection details is what I am after..
[23:13] <romrider7> thanks so much you guys/gals..
[23:14] <abaldygl3> romrider7:  Your connection details will come from the admin of the system you are attempting to connect to.
[23:24] <romrider7> abaldygl3: what I am looking for is a trustworthy vpn provider (needs to be free-of-charge right now cos a few days back during a somewhat heated exchange in my local bank the official asked to see my cards etc.. told me to wait a moment - used siscors to cut the cards and then told me "you are not a customer here.. your online banking has been deleted - advise us of a new account to send...
[23:25] <romrider7> ...your funds to. now leave the building!!"
[23:25] <linux> romrider7: Hi Man
[23:25] <romrider7> so I have been scrambeling for a week or so to minimize the devastating effects of the above event...
[23:26] <romrider7> linux hi pal...
[23:27] <linux> how are you ?!
[23:27] <romrider7> struggeling
[23:27] <romrider7> but so far have my head above water...
[23:28] <romrider7> went to a clinik to sleep for 3 days/nights.. but now need to get a vpn running on this 16.04 cient..
[23:29] <romrider7> linux btw it is o1:28hrs here in central europe right now ... ;=)
[23:30] <romrider7> I better get back to that support/Main_Page - and study it - see you kind ppl in a bit..
[23:34] <bigcat> hello
[23:34] <Vad3r> gi bigcat
[23:34] <Vad3r> hi*
[23:35] <bigcat> how can I export the environment of certain software
[23:36] <Grandolf> Hi, I updated my PC from ubuntu 14.04 to 16.somtheing and now im haveing problems with the desktop, anyone know why? do i need to re-download the unity desktop? i have to log in and it looks like a terminal when i do. then when i startx it all is black and plain
[23:37] <bigcat> help me
[23:38] <bigcat> exit
[23:38] <lordcirth> !ask | bigcat
[23:39] <lordcirth> Grandolf, to diagnose X errors, reading /var/log/Xorg.0.log is a good place to start.
[23:39] <private> with gparted, am i able to resize the partition i am currently running ubuntu from (do i need to unmount)? it is not allowing me
[23:40] <salamanderrake> is there any type of confrencing software with a whiteboard or some such thing that does not need you to set up a web server?
[23:42] <lordcirth> salamanderrake, I am not aware of one, however there are many websites that let you do this for free.
[23:42] <salamanderrake> oh
[23:42] <salamanderrake> ok
[23:46] <Bashing-om> private: Can not work on a file system while in use ( mounted ) one works from a liveDVD in your case .
[23:53] <romrider7> lordcirth: back- I was running air VPN on win10 - have applied for a free trial for a few days from them to use on 16.04 which alledegedly works with thier latest beta client.. thanks for your help
[23:54] <olliequeen> hey
[23:54] <joevandyk> say i have /tmp on drive1. and i then mount /tmp to drive2 via /etc/fstab. is there a way i can remove the contents of /tmp on drive1?
[23:55] <joevandyk> or somehow see/modify the contents of drive1's /tmp?
[23:55] <olliequeen> so
[23:56] <olliequeen> ok so when i boot up, i boot into grub, if i choose windows
[23:57] <olliequeen> it goes into the automatic recovery mode. can anyone help me to have windows start up like normal from grub? i have a UEFI
[23:59] <olliequeen> no one?