[01:15] <bluesabre> flocculant, the preferred applications alignment was in fact my fault, https://git.xfce.org/xfce/exo/commit/?id=63a9f5d5fa16c598d888ee017714dd0b8548bab6 :D
[01:21] <Unit193> :D
[06:32] <flocculant> bluesabre: :)
[09:37] <knome> who's reading my mind? it's happened twice to me in a row that i procrastinate with the mailing list moderation queue's, and then finally decided to clean them up... and when i open up the admin interface, it's cleaned!
[10:15] <akxwi-dave> well it  was't me...  :-)
[11:17] <ochosi> hey everyone!
[11:17] <ochosi> flocculant: thanks for setting up the poll and everything
[11:18] <ochosi> does it automatically end once everyone has voted or do you have to manually close it?
[11:40] <flocculant> ochosi: it's manual 
[11:41] <flocculant> ochosi: also - you going to be about to announce? 
[11:41] <ochosi> i'm around at least once a day this week, but then afk fri and sat
[11:41] <ochosi> on sunday i should be back
[11:41] <ochosi> so depending on when the poll ends...
[11:41] <bluesabre> oh goodie
[11:42] <flocculant> ochosi: currently waiting on 1 result to land then it can be closed 
[11:42] <bluesabre> ochosi, going to drop you a bunch of greybird tweak requests
[11:42] <bluesabre> bbl
[11:42] <flocculant> hi bye bluesabre :)
[11:43] <ochosi> bluesabre: sure thing, send it anytime
[11:46] <bluesabre> one thing, so much padding
[11:46] <ochosi> well that's mostly inherited by adwaita
[11:46] <bluesabre> currently using numix/zukitre to building layouts so I have an idea of how things look :)
[11:46] <ochosi> but i was hoping to get the list in a more detailed and well-formatted way :)
[11:46] <bluesabre> yeah
[11:46] <ochosi> like: which widgets have too much padding
[11:46] <bluesabre> I'll make a bunch of bug reports
[11:47] <bluesabre> flocculant also has a few already
[11:47] <bluesabre> button
[11:47] <ochosi> you can also send me a list if it's just tweaks
[11:47] <bluesabre> k
[11:47] <bluesabre> bbl for real this time
[11:48] <ochosi> it's not *that* much more padding though
[11:48] <ochosi> at max it's 2px on each side
[11:48] <ochosi> mostly i've taken the values from the "old" gtk3 greybird
[11:48] <ochosi> flocculant: alright then, just let me know when you're ready!
[11:49] <flocculant> ochosi: do you need a bug report on the thicker blue lines in the new greybird? 
[11:49] <bluesabre> ochosi, mugshot is a good example
[11:49] <bluesabre> maybe there was always that much vertical padding
[11:50] <flocculant> ochosi: if we manage to be able to finish early (before friday) I'll let you know - and if it's you not voted yet - you have control of it :p
[11:50] <ochosi> it doesn't seem that bad here (see pm)
[11:50] <ochosi> flocculant: i already voted :>
[11:50] <flocculant> that's 2 I know it isn't then :D
[11:50] <ochosi> and regarding the input boxes tell bluesabre to include it or file an issue on github ;)
[11:51] <flocculant> bluesabre: include it ...
[11:51] <flocculant> :p
[11:51] <flocculant> ochosi: here https://github.com/shimmerproject/Greybird/issues ?
[11:52] <ochosi> yup, that's the right place
[11:52] <flocculant> k - I'll do that then 
[11:53] <ochosi> thanks a bunch!
[11:56] <flocculant> ochosi: btw not all input boxes are affected - seems to be only those for password
[11:57] <ochosi> right, i'll check, but be sure to include that in the repoprt
[11:59] <flocculant> yea ofc
[12:11] <flocculant> ochosi bluesabre - all done reporting that on github
[12:11] <flocculant> I assume we don't need a launchpad one
[12:24] <ochosi> nope, github is totally fine for that
[12:25] <flocculant> k cool - works for me \o/
[12:47] <flocculant> ochosi: suspect it's going to be the mia slicky not voting
[12:47] <ochosi> feel free to poke him
[12:47] <ochosi> just to be sure
[12:47] <ochosi> if not we will have to wait
[12:47] <flocculant> well he's got the mail same as eveeryone
[12:48] <flocculant> and why do we have to wait - what if he's not back for 2 months?
[12:48] <flocculant> don't mind waiting a few days obviously
[12:48] <flocculant> slickyma1ter: ping
[12:48] <flocculant> he's obviously not been around on irc for some time - still got the odd nick :)
[12:57] <ochosi> flocculant: well there's a deadline anyway (sept 4, 18 utc) so thats ok
[12:57] <flocculant> oic 
[12:57] <flocculant> yea :)
[12:57] <ochosi> :)
[12:58] <flocculant> that said I don't think it'd be too much of a problem to postpone for a couple of days
[12:58] <ochosi> sure
[12:58] <ochosi> but as you said, he's been MIA for a while
[12:58] <flocculant> yea
[12:58] <flocculant> on the other hand - it might not actually be him who's not done it :)
[12:59] <flocculant> anyway - bbl
[13:02] <ochosi> :)
[13:02] <ochosi> i thought you knew 
[13:45] <flocculant> ochosi: nah - I just know how many votes sent and how many used up 
[14:53] <flocculant> ochosi: we have 11/11 votes now - I can stop poll if you want - then you can announce it this week - let me know what you want to do
[14:54] <knome> theoretically, can people change their votes=
[14:54] <knome> ==?
[14:54] <flocculant> knome: nope
[14:54] <flocculant> once voted is done you can't use the only url you get again
[14:54] <knome> ok, then no reason not to end the vote
[14:55] <flocculant> indeed
[14:55] <akxwi-dave> I agree  
[14:55] <akxwi-dave> for what its worth..  :-)
[14:55] <flocculant> hi akxwi-dave :)
[14:56] <akxwi-dave> Hi flocculant 
[14:56] <flocculant> akxwi-dave: you have same rights in team as anyone else :)
[14:57] <knome> same as with email voting... deadline can be something, but if everybody has voted before that, the result is clear already
[14:57] <knome> even more if people can't even change votes (with email voting they kind of can..)
[14:57] <akxwi-dave> I managed to save the laptop...   
[14:57] <knome> from what?
[14:57] <flocculant> knome: indeed :)
[14:57] <akxwi-dave> exploding.. :-)
[14:58] <flocculant> I'll let ochosi get back to me - I'm not going to announce result unless he asks me to
[14:58] <knome> sure
[14:58] <flocculant> akxwi-dave: always good that
[14:58] <flocculant> and I don't want to stop it now and know the result ages before anyone else does :)
[14:59] <akxwi-dave> the burning smell that night was the gpu fan burning out.. so replaced the fan.. 
[14:59] <flocculant> akxwi-dave: lucky :D
[14:59] <akxwi-dave> tell me..   :-)
[14:59] <flocculant> Dave - that was lucky :p
[15:04] <akxwi-dave> :-)
[18:32] <Unit193> knome: ...Sounds like me. :3
[18:40] <knome> Unit193, which one?)
[18:40] <Unit193> ML queue.
[18:41] <knome> :))
[19:35] <AndroUser> Hi,I'm new here. I would like to contribute. So, Could someone help me to get started?
[20:08] <knome> AndroUser, hello
[20:08] <knome> AndroUser, what are you interested in?
[20:08] <knome> and welcome
[20:13] <AndroUser> I'm good in C programming.So I' looking forward to start working on easy tasks
[20:14] <Unit193> I guess that strikes "fix thunar" from the list. >_>
[20:14] <knome> most of the code that is xubuntu-specific comes from xfce, so if there is anything you can do to help them... 
[20:14] <knome> that can involve fixing bugs and/or converting stuff to gtk3 and more
[20:15] <knome> poke ochosi and bluesabre 
[20:16] <AndroUser> Could you suggest me some easy fixing bug tasks to start with?
[20:18] <nairwolf> Maybe that would not be bad to show him this link : http://dev.xubuntu.org/
[20:19] <nairwolf> And AndroUser, if you fix the thunar bug, everybody will be really grateful ;)
[20:19] <knome> nairwolf, yeah, and it's obviously the easiest bug there is as nobody has been able to figure out why it's happening.
[20:20] <knome> AndroUser, wait for ochosi and/or bluesabre to pop up, they can likely point you to some good starting points
[20:20] <knome> AndroUser, they, and a few more of us, also hang out on #xfce-dev, which is the main development channel for xfce
[20:21] <nairwolf> knome: that was a joke. I hope AndroUser caught it
[20:21] <Unit193> By fixing bugs in Xfce, you are actually still helping out Xubuntu too.
[20:21] <knome> yes, very much so what Unit193 said
[20:21] <nairwolf> AndroUser: Have you seen this link ? That could help you : http://docs.xubuntu.org/contributors/
[20:21] <knome> nairwolf, it's hard to interpret tones right on IRC
[20:22] <nairwolf> that's why I added ";)" at the end. 
[20:22] <knome> even so
[20:23] <knome> AndroUser, this is repeated a lot, but it's good advice: if there is some specific bug that really annoys you, fixing that is a good start
[20:23] <AndroUser> Thank you
[20:24] <Unit193> FWIW, it will likely take a couple hours for either of them to show up.  It's not that they're ignoring you. :)
[20:24] <knome> indeed. it might also be a couple of days in the worst case scenario
[20:47] <nairwolf> sorry knome, I'm not native english speaker, sometimes I'm saying things unclear, or sometimes I can be silly or ambigious. I'm really sorry, but I try to pay attention and to improve
[20:50] <knome> don't worry too much.
[20:52] <Unit193> nairwolf: Yeeeah, krytarik and I are Captain Vague, so pretty sure you'll be fine.
[20:52] <nairwolf> okay, thank you ;)
[20:57] <flocculant> Unit193: Captain? Don't you mean 2 man behind the lines infiltration team :p
[20:58] <Unit193> \o/
[20:58] <flocculant> :)
[21:01] <Unit193> flocculant: Why you no tell results?! :P
[21:01] <ochosi> hey flocculant 
[21:02] <ochosi> and hi everyone else :)
[21:02] <knome> hey ochosi 
[21:02] <knome> Unit193, he's no william tell
[21:03] <ochosi> flocculant: if we have the results and everyone has voted, i'm fine with announcing the result anytime
[21:03] <Unit193> ochosi: You missed fg01. :(
[21:03] <ochosi> yeah, just saw that in the backlog
[21:03] <Unit193> Incoming xfconf and xfdesktop to Debian, btw.
[21:04] <ochosi> xfconf?
[21:04] <ochosi> from the private branch?
[21:05] <ochosi> otherwise there have only been translation updates to that since 4.12.0 afaik
[21:06] <nairwolf> the result, the result ! 
[21:06] <Unit193> Nah just boring stuff.
[21:06] <nairwolf> I'm exciting to see for who you have voted, guys
[21:11] <ochosi> nairwolf: obviously you'll have to wait patiently :)
[21:14] <nairwolf> ochosi: yeah, I will wait patiently
[21:16] <Unit193> ochosi: He wants to see who voted for what! :D
[21:17] <ochosi> :D
[21:17] <knome> i waited for the council
[21:17] <knome> what did others vote for?
[21:17] <knome> chef for the next community meeting?
[21:41] <ochosi> guess we'll know the results on a different day
[21:41] <ochosi> night everyone
[21:42] <knome> hehe, nighty ochosi 
[22:44] <Unit193> https://packages.qa.debian.org/x/xfconf/news/20160830T223852Z.html - https://packages.qa.debian.org/x/xfdesktop4/news/20160830T223858Z.html
[23:57] <bluesabre> AndroUser/fg01, please see https://wiki.xfce.org/contribute/easybugs?s[]=bugs for Xfce's "easy bugs"
[23:58] <knome> too bad they are gone :P
[23:58] <bluesabre> indeed
[23:58] <bluesabre> should they return, quote me :D
[23:58] <knome> will do
[23:58] <knome> ...again
[23:58] <bluesabre> :)
[23:59] <bluesabre> how
[23:59] <bluesabre> 's
[23:59] <bluesabre> it
[23:59] <bluesabre> going
[23:59] <bluesabre> (definitely intentional)
[23:59] <knome> i'm breaking my website.