| pitti | Good morning | 04:42 |
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| hikiko | hi | 05:15 |
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| willcooke | morning all | 08:00 |
| seb128 | hey willcooke! | 08:03 |
| seb128 | it's quiet here today! | 08:10 |
| seb128 | or is my IRC not working? | 08:20 |
| pitti | bonjour seb128! | 08:25 |
| pitti | hey willcooke | 08:25 |
| seb128 | hey pitti, how are you? | 08:25 |
| pitti | seb128: quite fine, thanks! how about yourself? | 08:25 |
| seb128 | I'm good thanks! | 08:25 |
| pitti | did a nightshift with reworking the autopkgtest web result browser | 08:25 |
| seb128 | ah, nice | 08:26 |
| pitti | autopkgtest.u.c. takes ages to update right now and keeps running out of inodes | 08:28 |
| seb128 | :-/ | 08:30 |
| Laney | SO ANGRY | 08:41 |
| pitti | Laney: ugh, what's up? | 08:42 |
| Laney | hey pitti! | 08:42 |
| Laney | I went to ride a new cycle route with some people from the council | 08:42 |
| Laney | but after I got there I discovered I had a puncture | 08:42 |
| Laney | so went to try and find one of the city hire bikes | 08:43 |
| pitti | annoying | 08:43 |
| Laney | EVERY location I went to had none available | 08:43 |
| pitti | urgh, annoying²! | 08:43 |
| Laney | so I have given up | 08:43 |
| Laney | even the one by the station | 08:43 |
| pitti | Laney: do you have kevlar tires? | 08:43 |
| Laney | sorry, visitors! | 08:43 |
| Laney | they are supposed to be "puncture proof", whatever that means | 08:43 |
| pitti | I've had some with a kevlar stripe inside, haven't managed to kill that yet | 08:44 |
| seb128 | hey Laney! | 08:44 |
| seb128 | what a way to start the day :-/ | 08:44 |
| Laney | at least it's sunny :P | 08:45 |
| Laney | oh also I have security bolts | 08:46 |
| Laney | so have to go home, get the tool and come back before I can fix it | 08:46 |
| Laney | and I never got to tell them the shortcomings of their new route | 08:47 |
| Laney | :(! | 08:47 |
| * Laney exhales | 08:47 | |
| seb128 | :-/ | 08:47 |
| Laney | how are you seb128 et pitti? | 08:47 |
| pitti | Laney: quite fine, thanks; have been hacking on a new autopkgtest results browser half of the night.. | 08:48 |
| pitti | http://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/browse.cgi/packages/systemd | 08:48 |
| Laney | oh, how come? | 08:48 |
| pitti | Laney: you still remember the "running out of inodes" problem due to the gazillion static files? | 08:49 |
| Laney | I thought I had noticed some missing results | 08:49 |
| pitti | Laney: and current a.u.c. has a latency of several hours | 08:49 |
| Laney | afraid not | 08:49 |
| Laney | so this is dynamically querying swift? | 08:49 |
| pitti | Laney: so I changed the download from "save into files" to "save into sqlite" | 08:49 |
| pitti | Laney: and completely rewrote the results browser with flask and dynamic page generation/sql query | 08:50 |
| pitti | which has become absurdly small | 08:50 |
| pitti | Laney: no, that'd be way too slow | 08:50 |
| pitti | but sqlite is awesome | 08:50 |
| pitti | the whole ~ 700K test results are in a ~ 50 MB database, and you can query the table for any result (with a join) in a negligible amount of time | 08:51 |
| Laney | nice | 08:51 |
| pitti | so browse.cgi now has a latency of a few minutes only (real production data) | 08:51 |
| pitti | still missing "running" and "test list" | 08:51 |
| pitti | so it's not the default view yet | 08:51 |
| pitti | Laney: https://git.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-release/+git/autopkgtest-cloud/tree/webcontrol/browse.cgi?h=db-webui → that's all (plus a few HTML templates in https://git.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-release/+git/autopkgtest-cloud/tree/webcontrol/templates?h=db-webui) | 08:53 |
| pitti | quite impressive, should have done this right away.. | 08:53 |
| Laney | flask looks quite simple for this task | 08:54 |
| Laney | nice | 08:54 |
| Laney | running will still be the amqp thing though? just processed dynamically? | 08:54 |
| pitti | Laney: yeah, I want to do the brutal amqp flush on demand instead of every 10 s | 08:55 |
| pitti | Laney: listening to and collecting logtails still needs to stay a permanently running process, but that's not a biggie -- that can just continue to write a HTML include snippet | 08:55 |
| pitti | and the flask app just slurps that in | 08:56 |
| pitti | or maybe even the template, need to learn about that stuff more | 08:56 |
| Laney | pitti: good work! results latency was a bit annoying | 09:03 |
| Laney | more than once I used swift's api to find things before a.u.c knew about them | 09:03 |
| pitti | yeah, me too | 09:03 |
| pitti | and the box running out of inodes despite having two huge hard disks now is also a pain | 09:04 |
| pitti | Laney: the other day we discussed how to attach external storage to cloud instances (that was for this context) | 09:04 |
| Laney | the inode thing? | 09:04 |
| pitti | right | 09:05 |
| Laney | nod, that sucks | 09:05 |
| vigo | hey guys, anybody running unity8 on desktop? I got a fatal error trying to re-install a click | 09:21 |
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| Trevinho | Laney, seb128: Hey. I was trying the tedg's branches for systemd... But it doesn't seem to start here, do you have any clue why http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/23115333/ could happen? journalctl doesn't say much | 09:51 |
| seb128 | hey Trevinho! | 09:52 |
| Trevinho | :) | 09:52 |
| seb128 | Trevinho, what's the status of indicator-common? | 09:53 |
| seb128 | sorry | 09:53 |
| seb128 | indicator-pre | 09:53 |
| Trevinho | pre? | 09:53 |
| seb128 | those are After=indicators-pre.target | 09:54 |
| Trevinho | seb128: indicators-pre.target loaded inactive dead | 09:55 |
| Trevinho | journalctl doesn't say much about indicators | 09:56 |
| Trevinho | ah, /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/unity-compiz-profile-select isn't there too | 09:57 |
| ricotz | hey desktopers | 10:01 |
| Trevinho | hi ricotz | 10:04 |
| Trevinho | seb128: so...... fixing that unity file doesn't seem to change the things | 10:04 |
| Trevinho | seb128: if I manually do systemctl --user start unity7 it starts | 10:05 |
| Trevinho | but not otherwise | 10:05 |
| seb128 | hey ricotz | 10:06 |
| seb128 | Trevinho, you need pitti or Laney I guess | 10:06 |
| seb128 | I don't remember how those systemd target are supposed to work | 10:06 |
| seb128 | but you shouldn't have to manually start the unity7 unit | 10:07 |
| Laney | hi | 10:08 |
| Trevinho | eh, yeah... it's quite expected | 10:08 |
| Trevinho | hi Laney | 10:08 |
| Laney | is there a silo? | 10:08 |
| ricotz | Trevinho, seb128, Laney, hi | 10:08 |
| ricotz | is there something wrong with mdds which seems not actually be published according to apt-cache -- https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mdds/1.2.1-1 | 10:09 |
| Trevinho | Laney: yeah, 093 | 10:09 |
| Trevinho | Laney: although it has wrong paths in prestart scripts | 10:10 |
| Trevinho | Laney: so you should manually fix /usr/lib/systemd/user/unity7.service pre-start script to include the /unity subpat | 10:10 |
| Trevinho | ricotz: h | 10:10 |
| Laney | hi ricotz | 10:12 |
| Laney | you want #launchpad for that | 10:12 |
| seb128 | ricotz, what binary are you looking at? | 10:12 |
| ricotz | seb128, libmdds-dev | 10:12 |
| Laney | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/yakkety/amd64/libmdds-dev | 10:14 |
| seb128 | I don't seem to be able to parse this log or make sense of what it says | 10:16 |
| ricotz | Laney, which means it is gone? although launchpad still lists it | 10:16 |
| ricotz | $apt-cache policy libmdds-dev: https://paste.debian.net/plain/797664 | 10:16 |
| Laney | It didn't publish the binary or something | 10:17 |
| Laney | go ask #launchpad | 10:17 |
| ricotz | Laney, will do | 10:18 |
| seb128 | there was and maybe still is an old bug that made launchpad eat binaries on successive promotion/demotion | 10:18 |
| seb128 | like it seems like that it was moving forth and back between main and universe | 10:19 |
| seb128 | which might have hit that launchpad bug | 10:19 |
| seb128 | in which case it needs a no change upload to get a new build | 10:19 |
| pitti | Trevinho: oh, is there an updated MP for unity7 now? https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1710 doesn't have unity, tedg removed it | 10:19 |
| Laney | could be, I don't know how that bug looks in logs | 10:19 |
| Laney | you can soemtimes copy binaries back over themselves too | 10:20 |
| pitti | Trevinho: I suppose there's an enablement symlink missing from ubuntu-session.target.requires (or ubuntu-sessin.target should grow a Requires=unity7.service) | 10:21 |
| pitti | Trevinho: in our staging git we have /usr/lib/systemd/user/ubuntu-session.target.wants/unity7.service -> ../unity7.service | 10:22 |
| Trevinho | pitti: mh, so probably it's in that silo.. I guess I should move that back there then | 10:46 |
| Trevinho | the thing is that I've already added libindicator... seb128 could you remove libindicator src from the landing 093 ppa? So that I can rebuild and get rid of the systemd stuff for now from there? | 10:47 |
| pitti | I asked tedg about the status of that PPA the other day, but didn't get a response yet, so I can't say what's up with this :/ | 10:47 |
| pitti | i. e. I guess this is blocked on $something | 10:48 |
| Trevinho | also wondering why it's targetted to xenial and vivid too | 10:48 |
| Trevinho | shouldn't it be only yakkety? | 10:48 |
| pitti | not sure, the usual triple-landing madness? | 10:48 |
| pitti | if the branches are diverged, then we surely only need it for y | 10:48 |
| Trevinho | I'd remove that, I guess we don't want to SRU it, right? | 10:48 |
| pitti | right | 10:48 |
| pitti | well, maybe at some point | 10:48 |
| pitti | but that shouldn't block landing in y | 10:49 |
| Laney | Trevinho: You're missing the symlink, and also Environment=COMPIZ_CONFIG_PROFILE=ubuntu | 10:49 |
| Laney | with those two it starts for me | 10:49 |
| Trevinho | Laney: symlink where? | 10:50 |
| Laney | as pitti just said | 10:50 |
| pitti | Trevinho: in our staging git we have /usr/lib/systemd/user/ubuntu-session.target.wants/unity7.service -> ../unity7.service | 10:50 |
| Trevinho | Laney: can you plase comment https://code.launchpad.net/~ted/unity/systemd-unit./+merge/300624 ? | 10:50 |
| Laney | but it should be requires rather than wants, I'd think | 10:50 |
| Trevinho | eh, but who should handle that? | 10:50 |
| pitti | yes, agreed | 10:50 |
| Trevinho | ubuntu-desktop package? | 10:50 |
| pitti | Trevinho: once we have unity ported we can add Requires=unity7 to ubuntu-desktop.target indeed | 10:50 |
| pitti | Trevinho: but this would be a lockstep transition, so shipping the enablement symlink in the unity7 package is easier for now | 10:51 |
| Laney | easier for now if unity adds the symlink, but it should more properly be in the target | 10:51 |
| Trevinho | pitti: so for now it's up to the unity package to setup such symlik? | 10:51 |
| pitti | we can clean this up later | 10:51 |
| Laney | snap | 10:51 |
| pitti | Trevinho: yes, as we try to decouple the steps of the transition as much as possible | 10:51 |
| Trevinho | mh, ok | 10:51 |
| pitti | at the price of needing two rounds (a second one for removing upstart jobs, and transitional things like this) | 10:51 |
| pitti | but still easier all around, look at how long this ticket has baked already | 10:52 |
| Laney | Trevinho: commented | 10:52 |
| Laney | IMHO you could branch tedg's branch and fix it yourself | 10:52 |
| Laney | be quicker | 10:52 |
| Trevinho | yeah, I was thinking the same | 10:53 |
| Trevinho | Laney: however, the environment thing should be set by the prescript, not by the .service, since it's dynamic now | 10:53 |
| Laney | does it do that now? | 10:54 |
| Trevinho | yeah | 10:55 |
| Trevinho | Laney: but you need to fix the path | 10:55 |
| Laney | I did | 10:56 |
| Trevinho | symlink is there... but nothing starts here too -__ | 10:56 |
| Laney | not sure how you pass back environment from the ExecStartPre | 10:56 |
| Laney | told you, you need to fix the environment | 10:56 |
| Trevinho | maybe it has to be a different service then | 10:56 |
| Trevinho | or target I mean | 10:56 |
| Trevinho | or whathever... in systemd language | 10:57 |
| Trevinho | on which unity7 depends on | 10:57 |
| Trevinho | so that the env is set | 10:57 |
| Trevinho | Laney: I don't get anything in the journalctl though... and if I manually systenclt start it the env is set... So.... | 10:57 |
| Laney | maybe make that script call the update-activation-environment thing | 10:57 |
| Trevinho | I thought it was working | 10:57 |
| Trevinho | in theory it should be done by systemctl set-environment, isn't it? | 10:58 |
| Laney | most jobs use dbus-update-activation-environment | 10:59 |
| Trevinho | I mean, without environment compiz should start anyway... but it doesn't | 10:59 |
| Laney | --systemd | 10:59 |
| Trevinho | Laney: you also still see | 11:03 |
| Trevinho | unity7.service loaded inactive dead Unity Shell v7 | 11:03 |
| Trevinho | inactive because? It doesn't parse the .wants dir? | 11:03 |
| Trevinho | anyway... the environment thing isn't needed... maybe i didn't reload the daemon | 11:04 |
| Trevinho | and.... I don't get integrated menu working... | 11:05 |
| Trevinho | gtk module not loaded | 11:05 |
| Trevinho | well, for dbus-activated stuff... So iguess the dbus-update-activation thing has to be used | 11:06 |
| Trevinho | for gtk module | 11:06 |
| Trevinho | oh, it does it | 11:06 |
| Trevinho | :o | 11:06 |
| Laney | haha | 11:07 |
| Laney | you made it work? | 11:07 |
| Trevinho | yeah, i had to daemon-reload it seems | 11:07 |
| Trevinho | however... it feels slower than upstart | 11:08 |
| Trevinho | Laney: I've this problem with the terminal though | 11:08 |
| Trevinho | when loaded from the dash | 11:09 |
| Trevinho | not from Alt+f2 | 11:09 |
| Trevinho | Laney: https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/pILG7vb4/ | 11:11 |
| Trevinho | and dash uses nothing but gapplication launch.. | 11:11 |
| Trevinho | so it should take care of dbus environments | 11:11 |
| Trevinho | pitti: you have any clue what could be? | 11:13 |
| Laney | it's right here | 11:13 |
| Laney | look in the journal and you should be able to see the order it was started in | 11:13 |
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| Trevinho | I always got such of these problems in this VM... but.... they were always actual bugs (like this always loses the races) | 11:14 |
| Trevinho | Laney: oh, yeah... it's after unity7 | 11:15 |
| Laney | that is weird | 11:16 |
| Trevinho | https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/Le2O4BPq/ | 11:16 |
| Laney | it has Before=unity7.service | 11:16 |
| Trevinho | yeah... | 11:16 |
| Laney | you need a pitti | 11:16 |
| Laney | did you put it in ubuntu-session.target.requires/ or somewhere else? | 11:17 |
| Trevinho | that one no... I didn't change nothing a part that unity7 thing in the wants dir | 11:17 |
| Trevinho | oh | 11:18 |
| Trevinho | I've it at /usr/lib/systemd/user/ubuntu-session.target.wants/unity-gtk-module.service though | 11:18 |
| Trevinho | who added that? | 11:18 |
| Laney | unity7 | 11:18 |
| Laney | I mean | 11:18 |
| Laney | unity-gtk-module puts that symlink there, it's right | 11:18 |
| Laney | meh I restarted like 10 times and it's always been correct | 11:19 |
| Trevinho | Laney: it does it since it has | 11:19 |
| Trevinho | [Install] | 11:19 |
| Trevinho | WantedBy=ubuntu-session.target | 11:19 |
| Trevinho | ? | 11:19 |
| Laney | that would do it if you called systemctl enable, but the package itself probably makes it | 11:19 |
| Trevinho | (and the same should be done in unity7 target or you want it to be at debian links level, as a side request?) | 11:19 |
| Trevinho | ah, ok | 11:19 |
| Laney | but RequiredBy for unity | 11:20 |
| Trevinho | it worked now... meh. maybe it was because just after the daemon-reload or something like that? | 11:21 |
| Trevinho | and... back again in 2nd restart | 11:23 |
| Trevinho | this after a | 11:23 |
| Trevinho | sudo service lightdm restart | 11:23 |
| Trevinho | Not full restart | 11:23 |
| Laney | tried it like 20 times now | 11:25 |
| Trevinho | Laney: so confirmed here... it only happens when forcing a session restart | 11:26 |
| Trevinho | with sudo service lightdm restart | 11:26 |
| Trevinho | it always happens in such case to me | 11:26 |
| Trevinho | not if I logout/login back | 11:26 |
| Laney | not for me, sorry | 11:26 |
| Trevinho | Laney: if it helps, this is what I get in journalctl (log starts just before I restart lighdm): http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/23115687/ | 11:28 |
| Laney | what does systemctl --user status unity-gtk-module say? | 11:29 |
| Trevinho | Laney: it seems correct http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/23115693/ | 11:31 |
| Trevinho | Laney: however, timestamps looks the ones of the last good time I ran my session (without restarting lighdm) | 11:32 |
| Laney | that time is right? | 11:32 |
| Laney | ... | 11:32 |
| Trevinho | Laney: in fact, in the log I sent you before there was no mention of that unit | 11:32 |
| Laney | probably because it was already active, no? | 11:32 |
| Trevinho | Laney: yes, but restart happened at ago 31 13:26:56 | 11:32 |
| Trevinho | yeah, so it should be stopped when the desktop stops | 11:33 |
| Trevinho | RemainAfterExit=yes ?! | 11:33 |
| Trevinho | in the gtk-module | 11:33 |
| Laney | that is correct | 11:34 |
| Trevinho | Laney: I think this is the problem: | 11:37 |
| Trevinho | http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/23115712/ | 11:37 |
| Trevinho | We need to put it down when the session closes... | 11:38 |
| Trevinho | it might fail, bu there's that || true which would still make it go down, isn't it? | 11:38 |
| Laney | PartOf=graphical-session.target should do that | 11:38 |
| Trevinho | that's what I thought | 11:38 |
| Laney | aha | 11:39 |
| Laney | I reproduced it! | 11:40 |
| Laney | it happens if you are logged in on a vt | 11:40 |
| Trevinho | Laney: and the same is for systemctl --user status gnome-keyring-ssh.service | 11:40 |
| Trevinho | I did it from ssh... maybe that's why | 11:40 |
| Trevinho | I've a ssh session open, no vt opens | 11:40 |
| Laney | probably the same | 11:41 |
| Trevinho | guess so | 11:41 |
| Laney | not exactly sure why | 11:41 |
| Laney | el martinus of the pitt | 11:41 |
| Trevinho | systemctl --user status graphical-session.target | 11:41 |
| Trevinho | Active: active since mer 2016-08-31 13:26:37 CEST; 15min ago | 11:41 |
| Trevinho | so, it's wrong indeed :-) | 11:41 |
| Laney | yeah and if I actually log out properly instead of killing lightdm | 11:44 |
| Laney | it's good | 11:44 |
| Trevinho | yeah, that's the thing | 11:44 |
| Trevinho | It's all in here... http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/23115727/ (pitti, when possible, if you can have a look...) | 11:46 |
| Laney | any problem when you don't kill lightdm? | 11:46 |
| Trevinho | no | 11:46 |
| Laney | because if that's the only time... | 11:46 |
| Trevinho | if I logoit is fine | 11:46 |
| Laney | probably more of a minor bug | 11:46 |
| Trevinho | I don't know if the same if X is killed | 11:46 |
| Trevinho | ok, if gnome-session is killed (segfaults for example), it's fine | 11:48 |
| Trevinho | not with X though, and this should be the reason | 11:49 |
| Trevinho | sudo killall -9 Xorg | 11:49 |
| Trevinho | marco@ubuntu-vmware:~:0$ systemctl --user status graphical-session.target | 11:49 |
| Trevinho | ● graphical-session.target - Current graphical user session | 11:49 |
| Trevinho | Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/user/graphical-session.target; static; vendor preset: enabled) | 11:49 |
| Trevinho | Active: active since mer 2016-08-31 13:48:21 CEST; 54s ago | 11:49 |
| Trevinho | Docs: man:systemd.special(7) | 11:49 |
| Trevinho | ago 31 13:48:21 ubuntu-vmware systemd[6159]: Reached target Current graphical user session. | 11:49 |
| Trevinho | ouch, paste didn't work | 11:49 |
| * Trevinho goes to lunch... Then fixes. | 11:50 | |
| Laney | oho | 11:50 |
| Laney | now I get why dropbox told me to change my password | 11:51 |
| Laney | https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/aug/31/dropbox-hack-passwords-68m-data-breach | 11:51 |
| Trevinho | ah... fuck them | 11:51 |
| Laney | bring back ubuntuone! | 11:52 |
| Trevinho | The mail was stating | 11:52 |
| Trevinho | «This is purely a preventative measure, and we’re sorry for the inconvenience.» | 11:52 |
| Trevinho | preventative... | 11:52 |
| seb128 | Laney, you didn't have your password changed since 2012?! ;-) | 11:53 |
| Laney | teehee | 11:54 |
| Laney | that was before I started using a password manager too | 11:54 |
| Trevinho | What, just got an amazon mail about unlimited cloud storage? | 11:55 |
| Trevinho | ah, no it was just marketing | 11:55 |
| Laney | there | 11:57 |
| Laney | now it's more like oiw5oitu<g.iegh9IeChieloo7nee1zu | 11:57 |
| seb128 | hehe | 11:57 |
| desrt | hello peeps | 12:07 |
| * desrt goes streaking | 12:07 | |
| Laney | HI | 12:08 |
| Laney | hot | 12:08 |
| desrt | trying to keep up my duolingo... | 12:10 |
| desrt | i have a 6-day streak, which i think is a personal best :p | 12:10 |
| seb128 | hey desrt | 12:15 |
| desrt | sup sup | 12:15 |
| desrt | looking forward to visit you soon =) | 12:16 |
| seb128 | ;-) | 12:16 |
| seb128 | the location is still not confirmed right? | 12:16 |
| desrt | correct. | 12:16 |
| seb128 | wonder what they are doing... | 12:16 |
| desrt | same thing as always :) | 12:17 |
| seb128 | eating the budget for more frequent team events by delaying the flight booking for everyone? :-/ | 12:18 |
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| pitti | Trevinho: re from lunch, sorry for the delay | 12:29 |
| pitti | Trevinho: so what's the remaining problem now? (we already talked about the requires and it seems the env variable is settled too?) | 12:30 |
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| Sweet5hark1 | has his brain broken: there is mdds 1.2.1-1 in yakktey for a day now and it provides libmdds-dev 1.2.1-1 as a binary in main. Yet https://launchpad.net/~bjoern-michaelsen/+archive/ubuntu/libreoffice-staging/+build/10686537 says depwait: "Missing build dependencies: libmdds-dev (>= 1.2)" .... | 13:03 |
| Sweet5hark1 | huh? how is libmdds-dev 1.2.1-1 not "libmdds-dev (>=1.2)"? | 13:03 |
| * Sweet5hark1 feels stupid as there should be an obvious answer ... | 13:04 | |
| Laney | pitti: If you're logged in elsewhere, then the targets aren't stopped properly if you brutally kill lightdm | 13:04 |
| pitti | Laney: yes; they should be restarted on login | 13:05 |
| Laney | try it - you get $GTK_MODULES without unity-gtk-module in it | 13:05 |
| Laney | althought the service remains active so I'm not exactly sure what happens there | 13:07 |
| pitti | ah, I see it in my VM | 13:07 |
| pitti | on clean boot even, that smells like a race condition | 13:07 |
| Laney | with unity7 in systemd? | 13:07 |
| pitti | no, just with plain yakkety | 13:08 |
| pitti | I don't think these are related really, gtk-module already needs to run in graphical-session-pre | 13:08 |
| Laney | it's racy when unity is under upstart of course | 13:09 |
| pitti | I filed bug 1618886, will look at this ASAP | 13:10 |
| ubot5 | bug 1618886 in unity-gtk-module (Ubuntu) "unity-gtk-module.service is racy" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1618886 | 13:10 |
| pitti | well, "of course", it shouldn't be, this is supposed to work with the status quo too | 13:11 |
| Laney | what no | 13:11 |
| Laney | how can it? | 13:11 |
| pitti | I see it ran correctly and it's in show-environment, but not in a terminal | 13:11 |
| Laney | because unity started after systemd started u-g-m | 13:11 |
| pitti | not sure, need to think about it (but can't right now) | 13:12 |
| Laney | well you can remove the override for unity-gtk-module | 13:12 |
| Laney | and just have the upstart and systemd versions run | 13:12 |
| Laney | that's not the bug we were talking about | 13:13 |
| Sweet5hark1 | Laney, seb128, pitti: please tell me how I am stupid, why does it depwait on libmdds (>=1.2) when there is libmdds-dev 1.2.1-1? | 13:14 |
| pitti | Sweet5hark1: not sure, looks fine; it's even in main | 13:15 |
| Sweet5hark1 | hum. | 13:15 |
| Laney | might take a while for launchpad to notice | 13:16 |
| pitti | Laney: so what is the bug you are talking about? with our PPA (i. e. unity started by systemd) my $GTK_MODULES is right | 13:16 |
| seb128 | Sweet5hark1, see backlog | 13:16 |
| Laney | that package was only published recently | 13:16 |
| pitti | even after sudo systemctl restart lightdm | 13:16 |
| seb128 | Sweet5hark1, the binary went missing due to a launchpad bug after an archive admin promoted/demoted it | 13:16 |
| seb128 | ric_otz asking about it earlier on #launchpad and cjwatson rescued the binary by doing some sort of copy | 13:17 |
| Sweet5hark1 | kudos to cjwatson then. also I feel better for not being insane (however hiding, because Im a lazy bum that didnt read the backlog). thanks for the answer, seb128! | 13:19 |
| seb128 | Sweet5hark1, yw! | 13:20 |
| Laney | pitti: you need to have another session open, e.g. a vt login or presumably SSH | 13:21 |
| ricotz | Sweet5hark1, hey | 13:23 |
| ricotz | Sweet5hark1, https://paste.debian.net/plain/798056 | 13:26 |
| pitti | Laney: oh, because unity-gtk-module.service stays running, but something else pokes a new $GTK_MODULES into the session (via Xsession.d or so) | 13:28 |
| Trevinho | pitti: it's not just that... | 13:29 |
| Trevinho | pitti: systemctl --user status graphical-session.target just gives me things as active | 13:29 |
| Trevinho | pitti: see | 13:29 |
| Trevinho | https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/BIcRaSDb/ | 13:29 |
| pitti | Trevinho: yes, this is expected; it gets restarted on login | 13:31 |
| Sweet5hark1 | ricotz: thx, already did that in the morning. weird that the dupe was already there before and the cherry-pick added a third. I fixed that and actually set the enable pkgkit var instead. | 13:31 |
| pitti | i. e. if nothing actually closes the session and just X goes away, there's nothing that would stop g-s.t | 13:31 |
| Trevinho | isn't there any way to monitor that? | 13:32 |
| ricotz | Sweet5hark1, I was about to say better check ENABLE_PACKAGEKIT as well | 13:32 |
| Trevinho | I mean the graphical session should be off at that point | 13:32 |
| pitti | Trevinho: yes, I think there is; I'll add that to the above bug | 13:33 |
| pitti | Trevinho: summary sent to #1618886 | 13:34 |
| pitti | Trevinho: so I suggest for simulating a "clean" logut use "kill -9 -1" | 13:34 |
| pitti | which will work around this until this gets fixed | 13:35 |
| pitti | or just use the logout button :) | 13:35 |
| Laney | pitti: you can add something like if systemctl --user --quiet is-active graphical-session.target; then systemctl --user stop graphical-session.target; fi | 13:35 |
| Trevinho | pitti: I can just stop the graphical session manually.. But I noticed the issue, so I reported. It's not critical, but I gues it could cause some troubles on X crashes | 13:36 |
| Laney | not even sure if you need the if | 13:36 |
| pitti | Laney: I'd think that at least gnome-session.service shoudl die, so something in the BindsTo= etc. doesn't seem right | 13:36 |
| pitti | it should die with it | 13:36 |
| pitti | I will look at it, just not right now, sorry | 13:36 |
| pitti | and this really isn't a blocker | 13:36 |
| pitti | Trevinho: right, appreciated; thanks for pointing this out, this needs to become more robust | 13:36 |
| pitti | as you say, ideally things should stop when X goes away; at least we should restart everything properly | 13:37 |
| Laney | ok | 13:37 |
| pitti | Laney: we already restart the session target, but this won't help for services which are already running | 13:37 |
| pitti | i. e. stop/start should make those bound servcies actually stop | 13:37 |
| pitti | like u-g-m.s | 13:37 |
| Laney | pitti: explicitly stopping it will | 13:38 |
| pitti | *nod* | 13:38 |
| * Laney commented | 13:39 | |
| Laney | desrt: your wish has come true | 13:40 |
| seb128 | :-( | 13:43 |
| Laney | why sad? | 13:43 |
| Laney | nowhere exotic? | 13:43 |
| seb128 | yeah, and octobre in den haag is windy and grey and wet and not much fun | 13:44 |
| Laney | haha | 13:44 |
| Laney | but escher! | 13:44 |
| willcooke | If it's any consolation, it's like that in June as well. | 13:44 |
| seb128 | right :p | 13:44 |
| seb128 | lol | 13:44 |
| willcooke | I went to Den Haag once, and it was closed. True story. | 13:45 |
| Laney | it was like 999 degrees when we went | 13:45 |
| seb128 | another summer helping for the brits! | 13:45 |
| Laney | we had tartare sandwiches and smoothies | 13:45 |
| seb128 | :-) | 13:45 |
| Laney | good day | 13:45 |
| seb128 | that is true | 13:45 |
| Laney | and you can bike in every day :-) | 13:46 |
| seb128 | lol | 13:47 |
| Laney | is that the week after release? | 13:50 |
| Laney | is | 13:50 |
| seb128 | yes | 13:51 |
| willcooke | qengho, seb128 - lets try hangout first and if that fails we'll resort to IRC | 14:00 |
| seb128 | willcooke, yeah, sorry, on my way... just got prompted for 2fa and need my ubikey | 14:02 |
| willcooke | seb128, nw | 14:02 |
| willcooke | my camera isn't working again | 14:02 |
| willcooke | I think that Virtualbox idea I has was wrong, and it's simply "broken after resume" | 14:03 |
| willcooke | !care | 14:03 |
| willcooke | "u_bot5> Sorry, I don't know anything about 'care'" | 14:03 |
| willcooke | aint that the truth | 14:03 |
| * Laney 's power cable isn't long enough to reach the socket | 14:16 | |
| Laney | don't make me move /o\ | 14:16 |
| seb128 | willcooke, on xenial? | 14:20 |
| willcooke | seb128, yeah | 14:20 |
| seb128 | :-( | 14:20 |
| willcooke | seb128, I need to gather more evidence | 14:20 |
| seb128 | try booting an older kernel and see if that fixes it? | 14:21 |
| desrt | Laney: which wish? | 14:46 |
| Laney | they announced the sprint | 14:48 |
| desrt | ah. nice. | 15:48 |
| * desrt sits in the court building... waiting... | 15:48 | |
| Trevinho | Laney: so.... | 16:04 |
| Trevinho | Laney: [Install] RequiredBy=ubuntu-session.target and/or the debian links or just one of two? | 16:04 |
| Laney | Trevinho: I did both but the Install one isn't strictly necessary for it to work | 16:11 |
| Trevinho | ok, it's just for disabling.... in case | 16:11 |
| Laney | and documentation | 16:12 |
| Laney | for system services it's done dynamically by using the install stuff | 16:12 |
| Laney | not sure why user is different | 16:13 |
| xnox | yakkety is weird | 16:13 |
| Laney | shave it | 16:15 |
| * xnox is failing to upload screenshot to people.c.c | 16:16 | |
| xnox | Laney, http://people.canonical.com/~xnox/system-cog-1-4th-painted.png | 16:18 |
| xnox | when i open the system cog, it's 3/4 orange, and only a 1/4 painted. In the screenshot, it is fading away. | 16:19 |
| xnox | oh i'ts actually transperant, just with a shadow. | 16:19 |
| xnox | cause you can see the desktop wallpaper origami fold | 16:19 |
| Laney | nice | 16:19 |
| * xnox has intel graphics..... | 16:19 | |
| Laney | happens every time? | 16:19 |
| xnox | where shall i file it? | 16:19 |
| Laney | and after a reboot? | 16:19 |
| xnox | yeap | 16:19 |
| xnox | let me reboot a few times. | 16:19 |
| xnox | also dpi 2x was not preserved on upgrade. | 16:20 |
| Laney | just that indicator? | 16:20 |
| xnox | it reverted to 2x | 16:20 |
| xnox | it reverted to 1x | 16:20 |
| xnox | didn't check. will do after reboot. | 16:20 |
| xnox | ok, all is good after reboot | 16:21 |
| xnox | i will blame it on 1x -> 2x dpi change. | 16:22 |
| xnox | cause the indicator would have been 1/4th size with 1x | 16:22 |
| xnox | Laney, wasn't there an eastern egg in about this computer? e.g. unicorn would pop up if one holds the click over the ubuntu logo or some such? | 16:22 |
| Laney | O_O | 16:23 |
| Laney | not that I know of | 16:24 |
| Laney | I only know of the alt-f2 ones (;-) | 16:24 |
| xnox | what's in alt-f2? =) | 16:24 |
| Laney | that would be telling | 16:24 |
| Laney | go read the source, they aren't obfuscated :) | 16:24 |
| xnox | i hit https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-release-upgrader/+bug/1611256 | 16:24 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1611256 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu) "X to Y upgrade fails with gconf2 depends on python3:any; however: Package python3 is not configured yet." [Critical,Confirmed] | 16:24 |
| xnox | and https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hexchat/+bug/1586239 | 16:26 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1586239 in hexchat (Ubuntu) "package hexchat-plugins 2.12.0-2ubuntu2 failed to install/upgrade: trying to overwrite '/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/pkgconfig/hexchat-plugin.pc', which is also in package hexchat 2.10.2-1ubuntu3" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 16:26 |
| xnox | will see if i can fix them. | 16:26 |
| Laney | grim | 16:26 |
| xnox | Laney, i did everything you asked in the gnupg FFe. email sent, subscribed, will monitor fallout, and will upload early tomorrow. | 16:27 |
| Laney | ♥ | 16:27 |
| Laney | PR aren't going to know how to handle the flood of emails | 16:27 |
| * Laney tries to remember how to operate aptly | 16:29 | |
| Laney | aptly -> swift is cool | 16:29 |
| ximion | Laney: if possible, it might make a lot of sense to update appstream to the version in Debian unstable ;-) | 16:37 |
| ximion | breaks API, but all the reverse-deps are ported | 16:38 |
| Laney | who updates those? | 16:38 |
| ximion | I maintain most of them and sent patches to the others :P | 16:38 |
| Laney | I mean who's going to do that in ubuntu? | 16:39 |
| ximion | also, you can compile without stemming support, so MIR-ing libstemmer isn't necessary (but would be very useful to get nicer search results, of course) | 16:39 |
| Laney | sounds like a reasonable amount of work | 16:39 |
| ximion | Laney: I would do that, but I think everything is ported | 16:39 |
| seb128 | k, enough work for today for me | 16:39 |
| seb128 | have a nice evening desktopers | 16:39 |
| seb128 | see you tomorrow! | 16:39 |
| willcooke | see ya seb128 | 16:39 |
| seb128 | bye willcooke | 16:40 |
| Laney | ximion: yeah but still needs to be uploaded | 16:40 |
| ximion | Laney: jup ^^ | 16:41 |
| ximion | but that should be the easiest part | 16:41 |
| ximion | in any case, you should be aware that this release fixes https://github.com/ximion/appstream/issues/63 | 16:42 |
| ximion | so at least that bugfix is wanted | 16:42 |
| Laney | ximion: do you know about this kind of critical too? https://paste.debian.net/798435/ | 16:44 |
| ximion | oO | 16:50 |
| ximion | Laney: this probably happens when a <description/> tag is busted... | 16:51 |
| Laney | from where? | 16:52 |
| Laney | the yaml? | 16:52 |
| Laney | Description: | 16:52 |
| Laney | C: >- | 16:52 |
| Laney | <p>Kickstart Configurator is a graphical tool for creating Kickstart files, which allow scripted fully automatic installations.</p> | 16:52 |
| ximion | Laney: yes - unfortunately the string was cut in the debug output, would be useful to see which document it's trying to parse | 16:52 |
| Laney | will have to look later on | 16:54 |
| Laney | back in a bit | 16:54 |
| willcooke | quittin time for me. Night all | 16:54 |
| ximion | Laney: the whole logic there looks a bit strange... I could easily fix the warning, but that would probably just paper over the real problem | 16:57 |
| ximion | Laney: heh, asgen only compiles on amd64 :P | 17:06 |
| Trevinho | Laney: systemd fixes in https://code.launchpad.net/~3v1n0/unity/systemd-unit-fixes/+merge/304540 diff is quite cluttered since I added another branch in the game... But... should work | 17:18 |
| jbicha | qengho: another tropical storm | 17:32 |
| qengho | jbicha: strangely calm air outside. such a cliché. | 17:35 |
| jbicha | not calm here, lots of rain today and tomorrow | 17:35 |
| Trevinho | tedg: I was thinking about removing the unity-screen-locked.target... I mean, i see that as a simple way for others to create malware for monitoring passwords... Not that it would be impossible otherwise, but still... | 17:49 |
| Trevinho | maybe just starting the service is enough | 17:49 |
| tedg | Trevinho: I did it that way because I was matching how you were sending an event with Upstart | 18:33 |
| tedg | Trevinho: I thought there might be other things you thought about attaching to that event | 18:33 |
| tedg | Trevinho: I don't have a strong preference either way, but if something can listen to systemd events, they can talk to X, so they already have all your passwords. | 18:34 |
| pitti | :q | 18:44 |
| Laney | ximion: !?!?!?! | 19:43 |
| ximion | Laney: ? | 19:56 |
| Laney | indeed! | 19:56 |
| Laney | $18 = (const gchar *) 0x7fdfdbb5f800 "---\nType: desktop-app\nID: system-config-kickstart.desktop\nPackage: system-config-kickstart\nName:\n C: Kickstart\nSummary:\n C: Create a kickstart file\nDescription:\n it: >-\n <p>Il configuratore Kickstart \303\250 uno strumento grafico per la creazione di file Kickstart, che consente installazioni completamente\n automatiche tramite script.</p>\nCategories:\n- System\n- Utility\nIcon:\n ... | 19:58 |
| jbicha | $? | 19:58 |
| Laney | ... cached:\n - name: system-config-kickstart_system-config-kickstart.png\n width: 64\n height: 64" | 19:58 |
| Laney | that is the string that breaks libas | 19:58 |
| ximion | Laney: the description has no "C" locale? | 20:18 |
| ximion | Laney: libas doesn't expect something to have no translation template | 20:39 |
| ximion | so, this is really a bug in the metadata | 20:40 |
| ximion | but libas shouldn't crash/throw critical errors because of that | 20:40 |
| ximion | Laney: try Git master, this shouldn't fail anymore | 20:48 |
| Laney | ximion: but why doesn't it? | 21:22 |
| Laney | where does this come from? | 21:23 |
| ximion | Laney: The desktop file doesn't seem to be translated at all | 21:24 |
| ximion | and since there are no other sources for translation of .desktop files except for your new langpack code, I would be the problem is somewhere in there ;-) | 21:25 |
| ximion | that also explains why I didn't see any behavior like this in Debian yet | 21:25 |
| Laney | it's not langpack | 21:25 |
| Laney | it is from Translation-it | 21:25 |
| Laney | but there's no C description there | 21:26 |
| ximion | Laney: shouldn't "C" come from -en if no translation was found in the Packages file itself? | 21:26 |
| ximion | btw, latest asgen finds a lot more to complain about in Debian ;-) https://appstream.debian.org/sid/main/ | 21:27 |
| Laney | yes | 21:27 |
| ximion | (mainly the validator became a bit more strict) | 21:27 |
| ximion | Laney: does it have a description in -en? | 21:27 |
| Laney | if (lang == "en") | 21:28 |
| Laney | (*pkgP).setDescription (description.data, "C"); | 21:28 |
| Laney | it does | 21:28 |
| ximion | weird, so how did it vanish then? | 21:29 |
| Laney | dunno | 21:29 |
| Laney | adding a debug statement and building | 21:29 |
| Laney | where does it get this from for a no-op run? | 21:30 |
| Laney | the database? | 21:30 |
| ximion | Laney: I hope you know about the forget command to forget just one package (or a range of packages)? | 21:30 |
| Laney | yes | 21:30 |
| ximion | where do you get what from? | 21:30 |
| Laney | that string | 21:30 |
| ximion | btw, I am thinking about renaming the appstream-generator binary to asgen :P | 21:30 |
| ximion | which string? :P | 21:31 |
| Laney | 31/08 20:58:06 <Laney> $18 = (const gchar *) 0x7fdfdbb5f800 "---\nType: desktop-app\nID: system-config-kickstart.desktop\nPackage: system-config-kickstart\nName:\n C: Kickstart\nSummary:\n C: Create a kickstart file\nDescription:\n it: >-\n <p>Il configuratore Kickstart \303\250 uno strumento grafico per la creazione di file Kickstart, che consente | 21:32 |
| Laney | installazini completamente\n automatic he tramite script.</p>\nCategories:\n- System\n- Utility\nIcon:\n ... | 21:32 |
| ximion | yu can get all metadata the db has for a component via getMetadata(kind, gcid) on the DataStore | 21:32 |
| Laney | 31/08 20:58:06 <Laney> ... cached:\n - name: system-config-kickstart_system-config-kickstart.png\n width: 64\n height: 64" | 21:32 |
| Laney | I was just running process with no changed packages | 21:32 |
| Laney | it wasn't re-processing system-config-kickstart | 21:32 |
| ximion | Laney: I would place some writeln (pkg.description) in places | 21:33 |
| ximion | that gives you what locale we know about | 21:34 |
| ximion | Laney: oooooh! | 21:34 |
| ximion | I think I might have found your bug | 21:34 |
| Laney | meh | 21:35 |
| Laney | the output has | 21:35 |
| Laney | Description: | 21:35 |
| Laney | C: >- | 21:35 |
| Laney | <p>Kickstart Configurator is a graphical tool for creating Kickstart files, which allow scripted fully automatic installations.</p> | 21:35 |
| ximion | and it's a silly one | 21:35 |
| ximion | what?? | 21:35 |
| Laney | wait wtf | 21:35 |
| Laney | that's old | 21:35 |
| Laney | what did you find | 21:35 |
| ximion | ah, false alarm, I didn't find a bug :P | 21:36 |
| ximion | I thought the rewriting of "en" to "C" didn't happen, but that is done in the backends | 21:37 |
| ximion | also, that would have produced a different error | 21:37 |
| robert_ancell | desrt, does http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~snapd-glib-team/snapd-glib/trunk/view/head:/snapd-glib/snapd-client.c#L385 make sense? It doesn't seem to be working inside the threads in gnome-software | 21:37 |
| * ximion needs to run, food | 21:37 | |
| Laney | now it moved to a different package | 21:40 |
| Laney | maybe I should clear the database, this could be corruption from an old bug | 21:40 |
| desrt | robert_ancell: just about to meet someone for dinner, sorry | 21:54 |
| robert_ancell | desrt, np | 21:54 |
| ximion | Laney: indeed - just remove the db/main folder | 22:01 |
| ximion | (with the contents database still intact, rebuilding things will be much faster) | 22:02 |
| Laney | this synchronisation on the langpack stuff sucks | 22:17 |
| Laney | night night! | 22:19 |
| Laney | see if this has worked in the morning | 22:19 |
| Laney | oh ok, it finished and didn't crash this time! | 22:22 |
| Laney | something wrong with the icon finder though | 22:23 |
| Laney | "tag": "icon-not-found", | 22:23 |
| Laney | "vars": { | 22:23 |
| Laney | "icon_fname": "preferences-desktop-locale" | 22:23 |
| Laney | } | 22:23 |
| Laney | ximion: ideas welcome (how do I print the contents db?) | 22:23 |
| Laney | night! | 22:23 |
| ximion | Laney: see https://github.com/ximion/appstream-generator/blob/master/source/contentsstore.d#L270 | 22:27 |
| ximion | the get*Map functions do what you want | 22:27 |
| ximion | but since preferences-desktop-locale is a stock icon, I think it might just not have found/read the injected Humanity icon theme | 22:28 |
| ximion | good night! :) | 22:28 |
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