[06:11] <pavlushka> ahoy ZA!
[07:21] <magespawn> hi pavlushka 
[07:21] <magespawn> good morning all
[07:30] <superfly> hi magespawn
[07:30] <superfly> morning jerit
[07:30] <jerit> morning superfly
[07:33] <jerit> superfly, any ideas on this? I couldn't log in as the znc user http://forum.lowendspirit.com/viewtopic.php?id=1305
[07:33] <paddatrapper> Morning everyone 
[07:34] <jerit> morning
[07:34] <superfly> jerit: show me your commands?
[07:36] <superfly> hi paddatrapper, meant to drop past you yesterday afternoon, but time was not on my side
[07:38] <paddatrapper> superfly: no worries. If you want I can pop over to your place later. Need to drop off paperwork and do some shopping anyway 
[07:38] <jerit> superfly, well I closed the terminal
[07:39] <jerit> but literally I was typing in exactly whats there
[07:39] <jerit> first,
[07:39] <jerit> su znc
[07:39] <superfly> paddatrapper: I'm back at work today, but no worries, we can reschedule for another day
[07:39] <jerit> then it asked for a password
[07:39] <superfly> jerit: I know, but I want to see the error message you get
[07:40] <jerit> it asks for the password which I don't know so I get it wrong then it says authentication failed
[07:41] <paddatrapper> superfly: Ok cool 
[07:41] <superfly> jerit: use "sudo -u znc -i"
[07:42] <magespawn> superfly where would like me to send the money?
[07:44] <jerit> superfly what did that do?
[07:44] <jerit> magespawn if you're giving out money, I'd like some, too :P
[07:44] <superfly> magespawn: I'll PM you my bank details in a few
[07:44] <magespawn> cool beans
[07:45] <superfly> jerit: uses sudo to log you in as the znc user, which uses your own password, not the znc password
[07:45] <magespawn> jerit: unfortunately not
[07:46] <andrewlsd> Morning
[07:46] <jerit> oh I see now znc@...:~$ 
[07:48] <jerit> znc conf won't let me set a Listen Host because this one's currently in use
[07:48] <jerit> or ... already in use
[08:22] <dlPhreak> Has anyone else experienced this bug with apt preventing updates to be installed?
[08:22] <dlPhreak> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt-listchanges/+bug/1614191
[08:23] <dlPhreak> Rebooting does not fix the issue for me.
[08:25] <paddatrapper> dlPhreak: I've had that issue on debian. Needed to edit a comfig file to fix it
[08:25] <dlPhreak> I'm on debian as well.
[08:26] <dlPhreak> paddatrapper: what was the fix?
[08:26] <paddatrapper> Add this to /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/20listchanges
[08:26] <paddatrapper> DPkg::Tools::Options::/usr/bin/apt-listchanges::InfoFD "20";
[08:28] <paddatrapper> dlPhreak: ^^
[08:30] <dlPhreak> paddatrapper: eureka
[08:30] <dlPhreak> should I now keep the current version of 20listchanges or install the maintainers version?
[08:31] <paddatrapper> The maintainer's version probably has that fix in it. Maybe save it as .new and compare them
[08:32] <paddatrapper> dlPhreak: Are you running KDE or Gnome?
[08:32] <dlPhreak> xfce actually paddatrapper 
[08:33] <paddatrapper> dlPhreak: ah ok, then never mind. I was hoping if you could confirm a bug for me
[08:36] <dlPhreak> paddatrapper: Ah well, thanks. Problem solved.
[08:37] <paddatrapper> Awesome
[09:14] <pavlushka> I am getting this prompt http://imgur.com/a/ZBJix after kernel upgrade this morning. and http://paste.ubuntu.com/23114960/
[09:55] <andrewlsd> pavlushka: no idea
[09:56] <pavlushka> hmm
[09:57] <pavlushka> andrewlsd: but thanks for looking, have you tried to load the link in that screenshot?
[09:59] <pavlushka> andrewlsd: https://hal.freedesktop.org/docs/PolicyKit/
[12:35] <nlsthzn> *yawn*
[12:56] <smile> nlsthzn: good night ;)
[13:04] <nlsthzn> if only >.<
[13:12] <superfly> it's so quiet without Kilos
[13:15] <nlsthzn> yup
[13:15] <nlsthzn> the glue that keeps this place standing :p
[14:03] <smile> The Department of Home Affairs is notoriously inefficient, so make sure to apply for visas and visa extensions as early as possible. A way to 'extend' your visa without going through the disaster that is the Department of Home Affairs, is by leaving and re-entering South Africa. o.O
[14:04] <smile> nlsthzn: where is the glue? ;) 
[14:05] <smile> or maybe I should ask superfly o.O
[14:06] <superfly> smile: Kilos has gone to Australia to visit a lady friend of his
[14:06] <smile> :D
[14:06] <smile> oh yes, he told me about that friend :)
[14:09] <smile> do you know he long he will be staying there, superfly ? :)
[14:09] <smile> what about his sheep? :p
[14:11] <superfly> nope
[14:11] <superfly> they aren't his sheep
[14:11] <smile> I see :o
[14:12] <smile> Historically, South African fuel stations were cash only, which was and still is indicated by many guidebooks. However, after a period in which fuel stations accepted only their own proprietary credit cards, in 2009, the government authorized them to begin accepting major credit cards like Visa and MasterCard. As of 2011, some smaller fuel stations accept cash only, but most fuel stations...
[14:12] <smile> ...will accept major credit cards. Thus, you do not need to carry large amounts of cash to pay for fuel, unless you are absolutely certain you will need to purchase fuel in a rural area that does not yet support credit cards.
[14:12] <smile> no debit cards :(
[14:14] <superfly> smile: debit cards too
[14:14] <smile> :DD
[14:14] <smile> SEPA? :)
[14:15] <superfly> smile: I don't know what that stands for
[14:16] <smile> Single Euro Payments Area :) it is used in whole Europe for bank transfers and payments
[14:19] <superfly> smile: This is South Africa, not Europe ;-)
[14:19] <smile> I know :) but MasterCard is not an African company, still it works in Africa ;) 
[14:20] <smile> same logic :)
[14:20] <smile> but SEPA is probably Europe-only, while SWIFT is worldwide
[14:20] <smile> "Society for Worldwide Interbank Financial Telecommunication"
[14:20] <superfly> Yes
[14:20] <smile> nice :)
[14:21] <superfly> If your debit card is from Mastercard, Maestro (which is Mastercard) or Visa, then it will work here
[14:23] <smile> I have Maestro, but have never used it :) here in Belgium we have a system which is called Bancontact, so I haven't had the need to use Maestro :)
[14:23] <smile> I guess I'll have to see :D
[14:23] <aquarat> You could get a Revolut card...
[14:24] <aquarat> https://revolut.com/
[14:24] <aquarat> although it might only be available to UK citizens.
[14:25] <nlsthzn> petrol cards were so dumb
[14:25] <smile> aquarat: sure looks nice :)
[14:26] <aquarat> Not too long ago I still had to present one @ Petrol card... in Sutherland.
[14:26] <aquarat> They wouldn't take any other type of card haha.
[14:26] <aquarat> It's not bad smile... it lets you keep three base currencies in the account and gives inter-bank rates for exchange between them. They don't charge fees on that either.
[14:27] <smile> EUR, USD and ZAR
[14:27] <smile> perfect ;)
[14:28] <aquarat> well they don't natively do ZAR, but they support ZAR via ATM withdrawals, POS purchases and SWIFT transfers.
[14:28] <aquarat> They only natively support EUR, USD and GBP.
[14:29] <smile> :)
[14:30] <smile> "Topping up via bank transfer within the Single Euro Payments Area is free."
[14:30] <smile> SEPA :D
[14:31] <aquarat> SEPA doesn't work in South Africa :)
[14:32] <aquarat> But no one in South Africa will charge you a fee for paying with a Visa or Mastercard card.
[14:32] <aquarat> It's illegal for vendors here to charge more for credit card transactions, except in very specific situations.
[14:34] <smile> :)
[14:34] <smile> good
[14:40] <smile> what's the difference between unleaded petrol and lead replacement petrol? :)
[14:40] <smile> (I wonder why the word replacement is there..)
[14:41] <aquarat> unleaded petrol has low lead content, which is now mandatory. Lead replacement petrol contains additives which emulate the presence of lead.
[14:41] <smile> aquarat: thanks :)
[14:42] <aquarat> lol, no worries
[14:45] <aquarat> bbl (lol)
[16:27] <magespawn> chat later all home time
[17:16] <inetpro> good morning everyone 
[17:23] <pavlushka> good morning inetpro for some utc- more than 12 time zoners :p
[17:24] <inetpro> so quiet here without Oom Kilos 
[17:24] <inetpro> hope he arrived safely at his destination 
[18:33] <smile> good evening, inetpro ;)
[18:51] <smile> tot ziens! :)
[18:52] <smile> bye :) 
[18:52] <nlsthzn> cheers
[18:52] <nlsthzn> :p
[18:52] <smile> good night :) / good morning
[19:21] <superfly> where's kulelu88 when you want to boast to him? :-P