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guzzlefryCan anyone recommend a lightweight music library manager/player similar to foobar200 or Amarok?00:43
bazhangaudacious is plenty light00:44
bazhang!info audacious00:46
ubottuaudacious (source: audacious): small and fast audio player which supports lots of formats. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.6.2-2 (xenial), package size 220 kB, installed size 1189 kB00:46
pavlushkabazhang: +1 :)00:58
* pavlushka actually loves it :)00:58
guzzlefryhrm, anything that supports samba protocol?01:20
bazhangwhat do you need01:21
bazhangsomething like mpd?01:21
bazhangyou need to give us the full picture on your needs01:21
guzzlefrybazhang: I more or less want something that will manage an audio library from smb://my-server/media/music01:23
bazhangto what end01:24
bazhangis this to stream housewide or otherwise01:24
guzzlefryI have a NAS with music on it that is served via samba. I just want a media player that can handle scanning/creating a library from that source.01:28
n-iCeI just notices there is no volume icon01:52
n-iCeAny idea?01:52
guzzlefryI don't have one either. I've just been using the keyboard to control volume.01:53
guzzlefryn-iCe: you probably want to install xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin01:54
n-iCeoh01:59
n-iCethanks01:59
n-iCexubuntu gave 8100 of swap03:07
n-iCeis not that a lot?03:08
Rarrikinsn-iCe: 8100 megabytes?03:08
n-iCeGB03:08
n-iCeI mean, 8GB03:08
n-iCeyes03:08
n-iCeMB03:08
n-iCehahaha03:08
RarrikinsIf you have 8 GB of RAM, it probably did that because hibernation uses swap.03:09
n-iCeyes I have 8GB03:09
n-iCeso, hibernation takes 8GB of Ram?03:09
n-iCewhat about the guys who just use 512MB ram03:09
RarrikinsYeah. Hibernation stores what's in RAM into the disk, then turns off power, killing the contents of RAM.03:09
RarrikinsThey can use only 512 MB swap and still have hibernation.03:10
n-iCeoh03:14
RarrikinsThere are some nice new technologies like XPoint RAM coming out where RAM doesn't die when power shuts off, so in several years, perhaps there will be no need for that.03:16
pavlushkaI am getting this prompt http://imgur.com/a/ZBJix after kernel upgrade this morning.06:54
pavlushkaand http://paste.ubuntu.com/23114960/07:00
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nikolamMaking HD image of an HD for more then 12 hours from 240G drive to 7z archive, with command:  sudo dd if=/dev/sdb bs=8M | 7z -si /mnt/Backup/sdb.7z10:26
nikolamIt is ntfs drive with 2 partitions, where firs is filled with aroung 30G and second just about 400M. Previously I filled both partitions with zeroes for empty space (dd if=/dev/zero of=/media/sdb2/zeoo.file and deleted them)10:27
nikolam7z archive is around 13.5G but process has not yet finished10:28
nikolamPreviously I used to do dd without compression and it seemes it worked faster (But it complained after filling 160G drive)10:28
nikolamSo thing is that I don't have idea when it will finish, 7z stays on 0% while having that 13.5G 7z archive10:29
nikolam7z uses both cores (and now probably is doing compression of zeroes from dd)10:30
tmsbrgI'm not very knowledgeable of 7z but is it possible it expects a full file or something to compress?10:32
tmsbrghow's your RAM, `free -h`?10:32
nikolamRam is ok, says 479M used out of 3G, shared 439M, 2.5G buffers, 2G available10:37
nikolamhm it's interesting, but 7z has that -si option for standard input and is actively using both cores10:39
nikolamI can only guess that when I was doing it without 7z, I had impression it is faster because it filled 160G and stopped, where now is 240G, yet takes very long.10:40
nikolamI have to wait now, no other option I see. Hope power will not go down for some reason :P10:40
nikolamhah, waiting pays out.10:45
nikolam7z says "everything is Ok" :)10:45
tmsbrgnice10:50
supsupthe other day my hard drive failed and i had to run a repair on it for some missing inodes, that seems to have fixed the problem but now when i try to do an dist-upgrade it has errors about: Preconfiguring packages ...dpkg: warning: files list file for package 'brltty-x11' missing; assuming package has no files currently installed  -- I've tried to reinstall the packages but it just says the same thing12:50
supsupshould i reinstall the OS, or should I replace the hard drive?12:50
knomehow many errors there are?12:52
knomei guess ultimately you might want to look at replacing the hard drive anyway12:53
supsup8 errors12:57
supsuphere is paste of the errors: http://pastebin.com/C0v5s4J512:59
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hankthecrankWhen I run my Intel Atom from DVD, I get full 1920x1080 video. Once installed to hard drive, the best I get is 1024x768. Can anyione help?14:35
CodFectionwhoever made xubuntu must be the kindest man ever15:32
CodFectionI absolutely love it. light weight + ubuntu15:33
CodFectionhowever I am worried if I might miss anything from vanilla ubuntu (unity)15:36
xanguaLike what?15:36
geniiIf you haven't already missed it, then I'm sure you'll do fine...15:36
CodFectionand when changing appearance items names are not aligned15:37
CodFectionhave to restart15:37
xanguaHuh what15:37
CodFectionfile system, trash all those name15:38
CodFectionnames in desktop15:38
CodFectiongoes disaligned15:38
hankthecrank?16:07
knome!16:09
glitchdhello all16:28
glitchdhow can i get rid of the white background in my systray?16:29
xanguaglitchd: you mean the indicator stuff? Use another gtk3 theme or you can add a regular system tray16:30
pavlushkaglitchd: change the theme16:31
glitchdwhile it is indeed possible to fix it by changing the theme, i like this theme and was able to fix it by changing something in the gtkrc on another install with the same thing, so it is possible and id rather not change the theme.16:32
glitchdso im looking for a solution that does not involve changing the theme16:32
xanguaRemove indicators and just use regular system tray16:33
glitchdthose are not the solutions i am looking for..16:42
glitchdthose are the "i dont know how to fix it" type of solutions.16:42
glitchdno offense, but i want to keep my theme.16:42
glitchdthx for the intended help everyone, ill just have to find the answer somewhere else.16:44
xanguaWell you already know what to do, search that specific string in your theme config16:44
glitchdi have compared the gtkrc from the other install that had the problem fixed, and just cant find any changes/differences16:45
xanguaAs for myself I already spend too much time doing that with gtk2 days16:46
mrkrampsglitchd, "compared" in terms of diff?16:47
glitchdmrkramps, compared in the sense that i lined the 2 files up and compared them line for line visually16:48
xanguaLol16:48
mrkrampssounds time consuming …16:49
xanguaIs this the same theme? Is this the same Ubuntu version install? What theme is it?16:49
mrkrampsglitchd, would you mind explaining the issue once again, i joined later16:50
glitchdmrkramps, sure16:50
glitchdmrkramps, i have ubuntu 16.04.1 x64 installed with xubuntu-desktop installed as my dm. there is a white background in my systray/notification area that makes it really hard to see the icons contained there. i want to change it back to transparent. i was able to accomplish this on another install so i know its possible, however i cannot find the article that helped me do it last time.16:52
xanguaThere is an ambience/radiance theme for xfce that addresses one of the issues you mention (incorrect background in the indicators) , you can find it in xfce-look.org16:52
mrkrampsglitchd, is this a permanent issue or does it vanish after restarting the panel?16:53
glitchdmrkramps, it appears to be permanent, i have restarted the panel just now to confirm16:54
mrkrampsglitchd, and which theme is affected?16:54
glitchdthe theme i am using is called "drakefire"16:54
glitchdi fixed it on another install, so i know its possible16:55
mrkrampsi would like to have allook at this theme, could you provide a link maybe?16:55
glitchdill try to find it hold on real quick16:56
mrkrampsi guess it might be "drakfire" then?16:57
glitchdmrkramps, it is indeed16:57
glitchdmrkramps, however i am not finding it on any website anymore16:58
mrkrampsdrakfire dream suite or drakfire adwaita?16:58
glitchdmrkramps, although i definatly got it from xfce-look.org16:58
xanguaWasp hard drakefire mod?16:58
glitchdthe folder in my .themes folder just says "drakefire"16:58
mrkrampshmpf … drakfire equinox? drafire ultra white? drakfire evolution?16:59
mrkrampscould be continued for 3 more pages :S16:59
mrkrampsglitchd, https://www.xfce-look.org/search?projectSearchText=drakfire17:00
xanguaAnd most if not all, are gtk2 themes17:00
mrkrampsxangua, xfce-look only list this category17:01
glitchdi think drakefire black is the closest to what i have currently17:01
mrkrampsafaik newer once are already gtk hybrid themes17:01
xanguamrkramps: wait what, only gtk2 themes?17:02
xangua:-\17:03
mrkrampsxangua, gtk2-themes is the only category they have over there17:03
mrkrampsas said, newer themes published there should already have gtk2 and gtk317:03
mrkrampsbut Drakfire Black is only GTK217:05
glitchdhttp://lookpic.com/O/i2/1810/cv4pBLhG.jpeg17:06
glitchdthat is a link to a picture of my systray and my problem17:07
mrkrampspretty much looks like the indicator plugin is not themed correctly17:07
glitchdyep indeed17:07
glitchdindicator-plugin/systray/notification area17:07
glitchdits all the same thing17:07
mrkrampsactually not17:07
xanguaIs not17:07
glitchd...lol ok17:08
mrkrampssystray and indicator are two different plugins17:08
glitchdok, ill keep that in mind, thx17:08
xanguaIndicators are exclusive to Ubuntu, just remove it from your panel and use the regular xfce system tray as I said in the very beginning17:09
mrkrampsand xfce4-indicator-plugin depends on libgtk-3-017:09
xanguaAlso if this is a only gtk2 theme, remember xubuntu uses a mix of gtk2 and 3 apps so gtk3 apps won't be correctly themed17:10
glitchdthat doesnt sound right..17:18
glitchdi have another install of 16.04 but its a 32 bit install and i was able to fix this problem by simply changing somethign in the gtkrc17:19
glitchdhow is it that i cannot fix this with the same method in a 64 bit install?\17:19
xanguaThen just copy the theme to your other box¿17:20
glitchdi tried  that already, it didnt fix anything17:23
xanguaIs this a gtk2 only theme17:25
glitchdi have no idea..17:26
glitchdwelp im tired of trying to fix this, i just changed to a dark icon theme and thats good enough for now17:33
glitchdthank you everyone for the help, much appreciated.17:33
glitchdadios17:33
xanguaYou should be able to tell if you look at the theme directory...17:34
xanguaOh OK17:34
glitchdxangua, what do u mean?17:34
glitchdok, nevermind17:37
glitchdadios17:37
Ximihi19:52
knomehello19:53
atelloHello everyone, just dropped in to say that I've recently started using xubuntu on my work laptop and it's been great so far!19:53
atelloThanks for all your hard work!19:53
knomethanks, and enjoy19:54
atelloeverything worked right out of the box, which was really great compared to 5 years ago when I was using another distro19:55
Ximihi. i just installed xubuntu fo my young brother. I get a problem with nm applet19:55
knomeatello, things are getting better every year indeed :)19:55
atelloOne funny little issue I've ran into, and this seems to be related to intel's driver (or the modprobe config it sets up) where the wifi indicator LED on my laptop would flash based on the speed of the network. Pretty easy to fix, thanks to google, but was quite amusing either way19:56
atellothe laptop has a centrino advanced n-6200 wifi card, so if anyone else has this issue, it's very well documented on various forums.19:56
XimiMy issue is different. i goole about it. no solution so far.19:58
atellowhat are the symptoms ximi?19:58
atelloapplet doesn't load?19:58
XimiI connect after start up normally, but if I disconnect or disable wifi no acces poit will show in the list. so times it reconnect autoatically but the applet do not refresh the status20:00
atellowhat sort of wifi card does your computer have?20:01
atelloI've ran into this issue in a way as well, but on my end it happened after I restarted the network card via command line20:02
Ximiwait ...20:02
atelloit still connected, but like yours the list of networks appeared "disabled"20:02
Ximi RTL8191SEvA Wireless LAN Controller atello20:05
atellodid you try updating drivers?20:07
atelloor are you using whatever the OS decided was relevant?20:07
atelloif not, check this out:20:07
atellodriver here: http://www.realtek.com.tw/DOWNLOADS/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=21&PFid=48&Level=5&Conn=4&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false20:08
atelloinstructions here: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1239342&highlight=RTL8192E+Wireless&page=920:08
atellonote that the instructions are for a different driver version, but the steps should be the same, just substitute your version in the steps20:08
XimiI read in journalctrl something about called ofono not found20:10
Ximishould i install it20:10
atelloNever heard of it. Maybe someone else has?20:10
mrkrampssomething about mobile telephony: https://01.org/ofono20:13
mrkrampsif journal lists a warning, just ignore20:14
mrkrampsif it is an error, pls paste the whole error20:14
Ximiit is just a warring20:14
Ximiatello, realtek site do not have driver for kernel 4.4!!!! unfortunately!!!20:16
atelloah, that's unfortunate20:16
atellodo you have a usb wifi dongle you could use instead?20:17
atelloso, interesting thing I just ran into.20:17
atelloI have a monitor hooked up to my laptop via display port, and I just wanted to connect another monitor via vga, but I cannot seem to enable both external displays at once20:18
atelloah, looking into it, it seems that the intel gpu doesn't support triple-head with displayport20:21
Wayward_VagabondIs there a file I can look at to see what caused my laptop to shutdown while I was at work?20:25
Wayward_VagabondIe an error, overheating, power failure20:25
Wayward_VagabondXubuntu 14.04lts20:26
Ximisee log files20:26
mrkramps /var/log/syslog20:26
mrkrampsand depending on logrotate maybe /var/log/syslog.120:26
mrkrampsbut if it's overheating the emergency shutdown will be initiated by BIOS afaik and nothing's logged20:27
atellohave you checked your bios? I haven't heard of it but maybe some have logging?20:28
atellowould the kernel capture that kind of event?20:28
atellomaybe the kern.log file might have some info (should be in the same folder, /var/log/)20:29
atellothere's a gui log viewer you can get (if it's not already installed) called gnome-system-log20:30
atelloXimi, any progress?20:33
Wayward_VagabondThe last 3 entries in syslog are  CRON[1678]: (root) CMD (   cd / && run-parts --report /etc/cron.hourly) at 11:17, 12:17, and 13:17, before the boot up at 16:0220:33
Ximiatello no20:33
Ximii'm try in other channels my be I get some hints20:34
atelloWayward_Vagabond http://man.cx/run-parts(8)20:34
atellocheck to see if that is running a script that is causing the reboot20:34
Wayward_VagabondI had a few weeks up uptime before20:35
atellohm20:35
Wayward_VagabondAnd it wasn't a reboot per se- it was sitting there shut down when i got home20:35
atelloah20:35
atellodesktop or laptop?20:36
atellooh you said laptop already20:36
atelloSo that rules out power outage20:37
Wayward_VagabondDoesn't look like there's anything of interest in the logs20:37
Wayward_VagabondYeah, battery wasn't flat dead20:37
atellowhat apps do you remember that were running on it before you left?20:38
Wayward_VagabondTwo most plasible theories are it overheated, or firefox's bloated ass crashed the system20:38
XimiI thing the proble is in Indicator plugin not in nm-applet.20:39
atelloXimi, could be. What version of the plugin are you running?20:39
atelloWayward_Vagabond, those are plausible. Hell, firefox can cause the former on its own :)20:40
atelloAny indication of a kernal panic?20:40
Ximiatello, 2.3.320:40
atelloI guess not, how would you know, right?20:40
Wayward_Vagabondonly kernel panic I've ever seen was from errors in intial setup of an install20:41
atelloXimi, I have the same. Obvious stupid question but have you rebooted?20:41
Wayward_VagabondIf had panicked proper, wouldn't the panic screen be up?20:41
atelloIn most cases, yes20:42
atelloStuff happens, I've had old windows machines seize up due to overheating and bsod right before they cut out20:43
atelloso, it technically bsod, but if I wasn't there, I'd just think it overheated and shut off20:43
atelloMaybe something similar?20:43
atelloI don't know, just throwing out ideas.20:43
Ximiatello, I do every necessary things after installation. I update, upgrade, dist-upgrade to install latest kernels, I install restricted extra and mpv and vlc and fonts, ...... I reboot many timed20:43
Ximievry thing is perfect except this issue20:44
atellotry removing (purge) the plugin and reinstalling it20:44
atelloI'm sure it has a config file somewhere, that might have some clues?20:45
XimiI try pkill nm-applet and run nm-applet ... it is working perfectly20:45
atelloHuh, so it WAS nm20:46
Wayward_Vagabondfirefox seems to easily be able to clog the system so that the clock in panel stops ticking20:46
atelloYeah :(20:47
atelloFirefox is a big girl20:47
atelloI tend to use chrome, it's easier to work with in my opinion, privacy be damned, I'm not logged in with my personal account anyway20:48
XimiFirefox and all major browser became very heavy on the system .... I,m thing to switch to w3m definitively20:56
Ximi---- sorry for nomeanifgull zord..... QWERTY is not my native20:57
atelloI've used i3 for a little bit. Feels really nice when you get used to it.21:03
Ximiatello, http://pastebin.com/Re6iXqUj21:22
Ximido you have idea what that means???21:23
atellohm21:27
atellolooks like a common issue actually21:29
atellowith no concrete fixes lol21:29
atellotry this for the time being:21:29
atellonm-applet --disable & exit21:29
atellothen start it again21:29
Ximinm-applet --disable do not work I kill it using pkill and restart it again in terminal where I get those warrings after disbling network and enable it again21:33
atellowhat does it say when you try to run it?21:34
Ximihttp://pastebin.com/Re6iXqUj21:35
atelloit gives that same error when you do nm-applet --disable & exit?21:35
XimiI mean it run normally without any error, but when  I try to reproduce the issue I got this http://pastebin.com/Re6iXqUj.21:37
Ximi--disable does not work at all in my case21:37
atellohttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/157674721:39
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1589401 in NetworkManager "duplicate for #1576747 cannot view wifi networks after re-enabling wifi" [Medium,Confirmed]21:39
atelloThe last comment has a workaround script that you can try21:39
Ximiatello, tnx. I'm reading on21:44
n-iCeguys22:27
n-iCedo you know any good pdf editor?22:27
knomedefine "pdf editor"22:27
knomeedit a pdf file that exists, or create one?22:27
n-iCeedit one that exists22:28
mrkrampsmultiple pages?22:29
n-iCejust one22:30
knomealso, what kind of editing?22:30
mrkrampsimport in inkscape or use lo draw with pdfimport plugin22:30
atelloscribus is good22:30
mrkrampsafaik scribus cannot import pdf Oo22:30
atellooh22:30
atellohm22:30
atellohave you tried editing pdf in gimp?22:31
atelloit's possible22:31
n-iCeI need to a edit a pdf22:31
n-iCeand print it22:31
n-iCethis one22:31
n-iCehttp://www.condusef.gob.mx/PDF-s/formatos_reclamacion/f_banco_credito.pdf22:31
atellolibreoffice draw can edit pdfs22:31
mrkrampswell, ok … scribus cannot _import_ PDFs, but just open them =D22:31
n-iCeinstalling libreoffice-draw22:32
atelloxournal has been suggested online as well22:32
knomeugh, that should've been done with pdf forms...22:32
knomexournal is okay, but the UI is a bit clumsy22:32
atellohave you tried online pdf editors?22:33
knomein this case i might just copy-paste this to a text editor22:33
n-iCeawesome draw solved it22:33
n-iCethanks!22:33
mrkrampsand there is also PDFedit in the ubuntu repository22:33
atellocheers n-iCe22:34
atelloso, I have a little non-issue that's been bugging me forever. I'm using Arc-Dark theme, and thunderbird's tabs have white ends (where the tab curves down). Anyone know of a fix besides using a different color scheme/theme?22:35
knomethis isn't the answer you "want", but contact the theme author(s) / fix the theme yourself22:36
atelloswitching between themes, it doesn't seem like it's related to the themes themselves but the way thunderbird's tabs are rendered22:37
atellothe ends of the tab graphic are separate images, and they're always a few shades lighter22:38
knomemhm... well, thunderbird can work with some userchrome css, but figuring out what to change there can be a bit baffling22:38
atellofixed it22:39
mrkrampslol oO22:39
atelloinstalled a theme specifically for thunderbird in the client itself22:39
atelloit changed the tabs from the "chrome" style rounded ones to square tabs22:40
atellono ends, no issues22:40
atellolol22:40
mrkrampseasy workaround :)22:40
knomethat's a possibility as well22:40
atellowhat's funny is that those shade differences on the default tabs is present even on the default theme, but you need to change your display's gamma to notice it22:40
mrkrampsi've just checked … there's arc dark for firefox, but thunderbird support is still on the wishlist22:41
atelloboo :(22:41
atelloarc is so pretty22:41
atellotoo bad papers looks weird on xfce422:41
atellootherwise i'd use that22:41
n-iCeit's weird22:44
n-iCedraw does not see it as text22:44
n-iCelike tables22:44
n-iCeand I cannot change fonts for all etc22:44
knomen-iCe, again, as it's mostly only text, i'd just copy-paste it22:44
mrkrampsn-iCe, that's just a raw import22:44
knomeyou can easily re-create the table on libreoffice writer22:45
n-iCeok22:47
atellowow lightDM is being a pita22:57
knomeconsidering this is a family-friendly channel, i guess you mean it's a sort of bread.22:58
atelloabsolutely22:58
atelloa delicious pita sandwich22:58
atellofull of "doesn't have access to that folder" and chicken22:58
atellopsa, don't uninstall thunar lol23:17
atelloapparently it takes some desktop menu/config stuff with it.23:17
atellolearn something new every day23:18
knomeyes, the desktop is managed by thunar23:18
Unit193xfdesktop.23:18
atelloIt's a great manager, but I just wish it had dual panel23:18
atellono harm done, reinstalled it and everything works fine again23:18

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