[00:43] <guzzlefry> Can anyone recommend a lightweight music library manager/player similar to foobar200 or Amarok?
[00:44] <bazhang> audacious is plenty light
[00:46] <bazhang> !info audacious
[00:58] <pavlushka> bazhang: +1 :)
[00:58]  * pavlushka actually loves it :)
[01:20] <guzzlefry> hrm, anything that supports samba protocol?
[01:21] <bazhang> what do you need
[01:21] <bazhang> something like mpd?
[01:21] <bazhang> you need to give us the full picture on your needs
[01:23] <guzzlefry> bazhang: I more or less want something that will manage an audio library from smb://my-server/media/music
[01:24] <bazhang> to what end
[01:24] <bazhang> is this to stream housewide or otherwise
[01:28] <guzzlefry> I have a NAS with music on it that is served via samba. I just want a media player that can handle scanning/creating a library from that source.
[01:52] <n-iCe> I just notices there is no volume icon
[01:52] <n-iCe> Any idea?
[01:53] <guzzlefry> I don't have one either. I've just been using the keyboard to control volume.
[01:54] <guzzlefry> n-iCe: you probably want to install xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin
[01:59] <n-iCe> oh
[01:59] <n-iCe> thanks
[03:07] <n-iCe> xubuntu gave 8100 of swap
[03:08] <n-iCe> is not that a lot?
[03:08] <Rarrikins> n-iCe: 8100 megabytes?
[03:08] <n-iCe> GB
[03:08] <n-iCe> I mean, 8GB
[03:08] <n-iCe> yes
[03:08] <n-iCe> MB
[03:08] <n-iCe> hahaha
[03:09] <Rarrikins> If you have 8 GB of RAM, it probably did that because hibernation uses swap.
[03:09] <n-iCe> yes I have 8GB
[03:09] <n-iCe> so, hibernation takes 8GB of Ram?
[03:09] <n-iCe> what about the guys who just use 512MB ram
[03:09] <Rarrikins> Yeah. Hibernation stores what's in RAM into the disk, then turns off power, killing the contents of RAM.
[03:10] <Rarrikins> They can use only 512 MB swap and still have hibernation.
[03:14] <n-iCe> oh
[03:16] <Rarrikins> There are some nice new technologies like XPoint RAM coming out where RAM doesn't die when power shuts off, so in several years, perhaps there will be no need for that.
[06:54] <pavlushka> I am getting this prompt http://imgur.com/a/ZBJix after kernel upgrade this morning.
[07:00] <pavlushka> and http://paste.ubuntu.com/23114960/
[10:26] <nikolam> Making HD image of an HD for more then 12 hours from 240G drive to 7z archive, with command:  sudo dd if=/dev/sdb bs=8M | 7z -si /mnt/Backup/sdb.7z
[10:27] <nikolam> It is ntfs drive with 2 partitions, where firs is filled with aroung 30G and second just about 400M. Previously I filled both partitions with zeroes for empty space (dd if=/dev/zero of=/media/sdb2/zeoo.file and deleted them)
[10:28] <nikolam> 7z archive is around 13.5G but process has not yet finished
[10:28] <nikolam> Previously I used to do dd without compression and it seemes it worked faster (But it complained after filling 160G drive)
[10:29] <nikolam> So thing is that I don't have idea when it will finish, 7z stays on 0% while having that 13.5G 7z archive
[10:30] <nikolam> 7z uses both cores (and now probably is doing compression of zeroes from dd)
[10:32] <tmsbrg> I'm not very knowledgeable of 7z but is it possible it expects a full file or something to compress?
[10:32] <tmsbrg> how's your RAM, `free -h`?
[10:37] <nikolam> Ram is ok, says 479M used out of 3G, shared 439M, 2.5G buffers, 2G available
[10:39] <nikolam> hm it's interesting, but 7z has that -si option for standard input and is actively using both cores
[10:40] <nikolam> I can only guess that when I was doing it without 7z, I had impression it is faster because it filled 160G and stopped, where now is 240G, yet takes very long.
[10:40] <nikolam> I have to wait now, no other option I see. Hope power will not go down for some reason :P
[10:45] <nikolam> hah, waiting pays out.
[10:45] <nikolam> 7z says "everything is Ok" :)
[10:50] <tmsbrg> nice
[12:50] <supsup> the other day my hard drive failed and i had to run a repair on it for some missing inodes, that seems to have fixed the problem but now when i try to do an dist-upgrade it has errors about: Preconfiguring packages ...dpkg: warning: files list file for package 'brltty-x11' missing; assuming package has no files currently installed  -- I've tried to reinstall the packages but it just says the same thing
[12:50] <supsup> should i reinstall the OS, or should I replace the hard drive?
[12:52] <knome> how many errors there are?
[12:53] <knome> i guess ultimately you might want to look at replacing the hard drive anyway
[12:57] <supsup> 8 errors
[12:59] <supsup> here is paste of the errors: http://pastebin.com/C0v5s4J5
[14:35] <hankthecrank> When I run my Intel Atom from DVD, I get full 1920x1080 video. Once installed to hard drive, the best I get is 1024x768. Can anyione help?
[15:32] <CodFection> whoever made xubuntu must be the kindest man ever
[15:33] <CodFection> I absolutely love it. light weight + ubuntu
[15:36] <CodFection> however I am worried if I might miss anything from vanilla ubuntu (unity)
[15:36] <xangua> Like what?
[15:36] <genii> If you haven't already missed it, then I'm sure you'll do fine...
[15:37] <CodFection> and when changing appearance items names are not aligned
[15:37] <CodFection> have to restart
[15:37] <xangua> Huh what
[15:38] <CodFection> file system, trash all those name
[15:38] <CodFection> names in desktop
[15:38] <CodFection> goes disaligned
[16:07] <hankthecrank> ?
[16:09] <knome> !
[16:28] <glitchd> hello all
[16:29] <glitchd> how can i get rid of the white background in my systray?
[16:30] <xangua> glitchd: you mean the indicator stuff? Use another gtk3 theme or you can add a regular system tray
[16:31] <pavlushka> glitchd: change the theme
[16:32] <glitchd> while it is indeed possible to fix it by changing the theme, i like this theme and was able to fix it by changing something in the gtkrc on another install with the same thing, so it is possible and id rather not change the theme.
[16:32] <glitchd> so im looking for a solution that does not involve changing the theme
[16:33] <xangua> Remove indicators and just use regular system tray
[16:42] <glitchd> those are not the solutions i am looking for..
[16:42] <glitchd> those are the "i dont know how to fix it" type of solutions.
[16:42] <glitchd> no offense, but i want to keep my theme.
[16:44] <glitchd> thx for the intended help everyone, ill just have to find the answer somewhere else.
[16:44] <xangua> Well you already know what to do, search that specific string in your theme config
[16:45] <glitchd> i have compared the gtkrc from the other install that had the problem fixed, and just cant find any changes/differences
[16:46] <xangua> As for myself I already spend too much time doing that with gtk2 days
[16:47] <mrkramps> glitchd, "compared" in terms of diff?
[16:48] <glitchd> mrkramps, compared in the sense that i lined the 2 files up and compared them line for line visually
[16:48] <xangua> Lol
[16:49] <mrkramps> sounds time consuming …
[16:49] <xangua> Is this the same theme? Is this the same Ubuntu version install? What theme is it?
[16:50] <mrkramps> glitchd, would you mind explaining the issue once again, i joined later
[16:50] <glitchd> mrkramps, sure
[16:52] <glitchd> mrkramps, i have ubuntu 16.04.1 x64 installed with xubuntu-desktop installed as my dm. there is a white background in my systray/notification area that makes it really hard to see the icons contained there. i want to change it back to transparent. i was able to accomplish this on another install so i know its possible, however i cannot find the article that helped me do it last time.
[16:52] <xangua> There is an ambience/radiance theme for xfce that addresses one of the issues you mention (incorrect background in the indicators) , you can find it in xfce-look.org
[16:53] <mrkramps> glitchd, is this a permanent issue or does it vanish after restarting the panel?
[16:54] <glitchd> mrkramps, it appears to be permanent, i have restarted the panel just now to confirm
[16:54] <mrkramps> glitchd, and which theme is affected?
[16:54] <glitchd> the theme i am using is called "drakefire"
[16:55] <glitchd> i fixed it on another install, so i know its possible
[16:55] <mrkramps> i would like to have allook at this theme, could you provide a link maybe?
[16:56] <glitchd> ill try to find it hold on real quick
[16:57] <mrkramps> i guess it might be "drakfire" then?
[16:57] <glitchd> mrkramps, it is indeed
[16:58] <glitchd> mrkramps, however i am not finding it on any website anymore
[16:58] <mrkramps> drakfire dream suite or drakfire adwaita?
[16:58] <glitchd> mrkramps, although i definatly got it from xfce-look.org
[16:58] <xangua> Wasp hard drakefire mod?
[16:58] <glitchd> the folder in my .themes folder just says "drakefire"
[16:59] <mrkramps> hmpf … drakfire equinox? drafire ultra white? drakfire evolution?
[16:59] <mrkramps> could be continued for 3 more pages :S
[17:00] <mrkramps> glitchd, https://www.xfce-look.org/search?projectSearchText=drakfire
[17:00] <xangua> And most if not all, are gtk2 themes
[17:01] <mrkramps> xangua, xfce-look only list this category
[17:01] <glitchd> i think drakefire black is the closest to what i have currently
[17:01] <mrkramps> afaik newer once are already gtk hybrid themes
[17:02] <xangua> mrkramps: wait what, only gtk2 themes?
[17:03] <xangua> :-\
[17:03] <mrkramps> xangua, gtk2-themes is the only category they have over there
[17:03] <mrkramps> as said, newer themes published there should already have gtk2 and gtk3
[17:05] <mrkramps> but Drakfire Black is only GTK2
[17:06] <glitchd> http://lookpic.com/O/i2/1810/cv4pBLhG.jpeg
[17:07] <glitchd> that is a link to a picture of my systray and my problem
[17:07] <mrkramps> pretty much looks like the indicator plugin is not themed correctly
[17:07] <glitchd> yep indeed
[17:07] <glitchd> indicator-plugin/systray/notification area
[17:07] <glitchd> its all the same thing
[17:07] <mrkramps> actually not
[17:07] <xangua> Is not
[17:08] <glitchd> ...lol ok
[17:08] <mrkramps> systray and indicator are two different plugins
[17:08] <glitchd> ok, ill keep that in mind, thx
[17:09] <xangua> Indicators are exclusive to Ubuntu, just remove it from your panel and use the regular xfce system tray as I said in the very beginning
[17:09] <mrkramps> and xfce4-indicator-plugin depends on libgtk-3-0
[17:10] <xangua> Also if this is a only gtk2 theme, remember xubuntu uses a mix of gtk2 and 3 apps so gtk3 apps won't be correctly themed
[17:18] <glitchd> that doesnt sound right..
[17:19] <glitchd> i have another install of 16.04 but its a 32 bit install and i was able to fix this problem by simply changing somethign in the gtkrc
[17:19] <glitchd> how is it that i cannot fix this with the same method in a 64 bit install?\
[17:20] <xangua> Then just copy the theme to your other box¿
[17:23] <glitchd> i tried  that already, it didnt fix anything
[17:25] <xangua> Is this a gtk2 only theme
[17:26] <glitchd> i have no idea..
[17:33] <glitchd> welp im tired of trying to fix this, i just changed to a dark icon theme and thats good enough for now
[17:33] <glitchd> thank you everyone for the help, much appreciated.
[17:33] <glitchd> adios
[17:34] <xangua> You should be able to tell if you look at the theme directory...
[17:34] <xangua> Oh OK
[17:34] <glitchd> xangua, what do u mean?
[17:37] <glitchd> ok, nevermind
[17:37] <glitchd> adios
[19:52] <Ximi> hi
[19:53] <knome> hello
[19:53] <atello> Hello everyone, just dropped in to say that I've recently started using xubuntu on my work laptop and it's been great so far!
[19:53] <atello> Thanks for all your hard work!
[19:54] <knome> thanks, and enjoy
[19:55] <atello> everything worked right out of the box, which was really great compared to 5 years ago when I was using another distro
[19:55] <Ximi> hi. i just installed xubuntu fo my young brother. I get a problem with nm applet
[19:55] <knome> atello, things are getting better every year indeed :)
[19:56] <atello> One funny little issue I've ran into, and this seems to be related to intel's driver (or the modprobe config it sets up) where the wifi indicator LED on my laptop would flash based on the speed of the network. Pretty easy to fix, thanks to google, but was quite amusing either way
[19:56] <atello> the laptop has a centrino advanced n-6200 wifi card, so if anyone else has this issue, it's very well documented on various forums.
[19:58] <Ximi> My issue is different. i goole about it. no solution so far.
[19:58] <atello> what are the symptoms ximi?
[19:58] <atello> applet doesn't load?
[20:00] <Ximi> I connect after start up normally, but if I disconnect or disable wifi no acces poit will show in the list. so times it reconnect autoatically but the applet do not refresh the status
[20:01] <atello> what sort of wifi card does your computer have?
[20:02] <atello> I've ran into this issue in a way as well, but on my end it happened after I restarted the network card via command line
[20:02] <Ximi> wait ...
[20:02] <atello> it still connected, but like yours the list of networks appeared "disabled"
[20:05] <Ximi>  RTL8191SEvA Wireless LAN Controller atello
[20:07] <atello> did you try updating drivers?
[20:07] <atello> or are you using whatever the OS decided was relevant?
[20:07] <atello> if not, check this out:
[20:08] <atello> driver here: http://www.realtek.com.tw/DOWNLOADS/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=21&PFid=48&Level=5&Conn=4&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false
[20:08] <atello> instructions here: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1239342&highlight=RTL8192E+Wireless&page=9
[20:08] <atello> note that the instructions are for a different driver version, but the steps should be the same, just substitute your version in the steps
[20:10] <Ximi> I read in journalctrl something about called ofono not found
[20:10] <Ximi> should i install it
[20:10] <atello> Never heard of it. Maybe someone else has?
[20:13] <mrkramps> something about mobile telephony: https://01.org/ofono
[20:14] <mrkramps> if journal lists a warning, just ignore
[20:14] <mrkramps> if it is an error, pls paste the whole error
[20:14] <Ximi> it is just a warring
[20:16] <Ximi> atello, realtek site do not have driver for kernel 4.4!!!! unfortunately!!!
[20:16] <atello> ah, that's unfortunate
[20:17] <atello> do you have a usb wifi dongle you could use instead?
[20:17] <atello> so, interesting thing I just ran into.
[20:18] <atello> I have a monitor hooked up to my laptop via display port, and I just wanted to connect another monitor via vga, but I cannot seem to enable both external displays at once
[20:21] <atello> ah, looking into it, it seems that the intel gpu doesn't support triple-head with displayport
[20:25] <Wayward_Vagabond> Is there a file I can look at to see what caused my laptop to shutdown while I was at work?
[20:25] <Wayward_Vagabond> Ie an error, overheating, power failure
[20:26] <Wayward_Vagabond> Xubuntu 14.04lts
[20:26] <Ximi> see log files
[20:26] <mrkramps>  /var/log/syslog
[20:26] <mrkramps> and depending on logrotate maybe /var/log/syslog.1
[20:27] <mrkramps> but if it's overheating the emergency shutdown will be initiated by BIOS afaik and nothing's logged
[20:28] <atello> have you checked your bios? I haven't heard of it but maybe some have logging?
[20:28] <atello> would the kernel capture that kind of event?
[20:29] <atello> maybe the kern.log file might have some info (should be in the same folder, /var/log/)
[20:30] <atello> there's a gui log viewer you can get (if it's not already installed) called gnome-system-log
[20:33] <atello> Ximi, any progress?
[20:33] <Wayward_Vagabond> The last 3 entries in syslog are  CRON[1678]: (root) CMD (   cd / && run-parts --report /etc/cron.hourly) at 11:17, 12:17, and 13:17, before the boot up at 16:02
[20:33] <Ximi> atello no
[20:34] <Ximi> i'm try in other channels my be I get some hints
[20:34] <atello> Wayward_Vagabond http://man.cx/run-parts(8)
[20:34] <atello> check to see if that is running a script that is causing the reboot
[20:35] <Wayward_Vagabond> I had a few weeks up uptime before
[20:35] <atello> hm
[20:35] <Wayward_Vagabond> And it wasn't a reboot per se- it was sitting there shut down when i got home
[20:35] <atello> ah
[20:36] <atello> desktop or laptop?
[20:36] <atello> oh you said laptop already
[20:37] <atello> So that rules out power outage
[20:37] <Wayward_Vagabond> Doesn't look like there's anything of interest in the logs
[20:37] <Wayward_Vagabond> Yeah, battery wasn't flat dead
[20:38] <atello> what apps do you remember that were running on it before you left?
[20:38] <Wayward_Vagabond> Two most plasible theories are it overheated, or firefox's bloated ass crashed the system
[20:39] <Ximi> I thing the proble is in Indicator plugin not in nm-applet.
[20:39] <atello> Ximi, could be. What version of the plugin are you running?
[20:40] <atello> Wayward_Vagabond, those are plausible. Hell, firefox can cause the former on its own :)
[20:40] <atello> Any indication of a kernal panic?
[20:40] <Ximi> atello, 2.3.3
[20:40] <atello> I guess not, how would you know, right?
[20:41] <Wayward_Vagabond> only kernel panic I've ever seen was from errors in intial setup of an install
[20:41] <atello> Ximi, I have the same. Obvious stupid question but have you rebooted?
[20:41] <Wayward_Vagabond> If had panicked proper, wouldn't the panic screen be up?
[20:42] <atello> In most cases, yes
[20:43] <atello> Stuff happens, I've had old windows machines seize up due to overheating and bsod right before they cut out
[20:43] <atello> so, it technically bsod, but if I wasn't there, I'd just think it overheated and shut off
[20:43] <atello> Maybe something similar?
[20:43] <atello> I don't know, just throwing out ideas.
[20:43] <Ximi> atello, I do every necessary things after installation. I update, upgrade, dist-upgrade to install latest kernels, I install restricted extra and mpv and vlc and fonts, ...... I reboot many timed
[20:44] <Ximi> evry thing is perfect except this issue
[20:44] <atello> try removing (purge) the plugin and reinstalling it
[20:45] <atello> I'm sure it has a config file somewhere, that might have some clues?
[20:45] <Ximi> I try pkill nm-applet and run nm-applet ... it is working perfectly
[20:46] <atello> Huh, so it WAS nm
[20:46] <Wayward_Vagabond> firefox seems to easily be able to clog the system so that the clock in panel stops ticking
[20:47] <atello> Yeah :(
[20:47] <atello> Firefox is a big girl
[20:48] <atello> I tend to use chrome, it's easier to work with in my opinion, privacy be damned, I'm not logged in with my personal account anyway
[20:56] <Ximi> Firefox and all major browser became very heavy on the system .... I,m thing to switch to w3m definitively
[20:57] <Ximi> ---- sorry for nomeanifgull zord..... QWERTY is not my native
[21:03] <atello> I've used i3 for a little bit. Feels really nice when you get used to it.
[21:22] <Ximi> atello, http://pastebin.com/Re6iXqUj
[21:23] <Ximi> do you have idea what that means???
[21:27] <atello> hm
[21:29] <atello> looks like a common issue actually
[21:29] <atello> with no concrete fixes lol
[21:29] <atello> try this for the time being:
[21:29] <atello> nm-applet --disable & exit
[21:29] <atello> then start it again
[21:33] <Ximi> nm-applet --disable do not work I kill it using pkill and restart it again in terminal where I get those warrings after disbling network and enable it again
[21:34] <atello> what does it say when you try to run it?
[21:35] <Ximi> http://pastebin.com/Re6iXqUj
[21:35] <atello> it gives that same error when you do nm-applet --disable & exit?
[21:37] <Ximi> I mean it run normally without any error, but when  I try to reproduce the issue I got this http://pastebin.com/Re6iXqUj.
[21:37] <Ximi> --disable does not work at all in my case
[21:39] <atello> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/1576747
[21:39] <atello> The last comment has a workaround script that you can try
[21:44] <Ximi> atello, tnx. I'm reading on
[22:27] <n-iCe> guys
[22:27] <n-iCe> do you know any good pdf editor?
[22:27] <knome> define "pdf editor"
[22:27] <knome> edit a pdf file that exists, or create one?
[22:28] <n-iCe> edit one that exists
[22:29] <mrkramps> multiple pages?
[22:30] <n-iCe> just one
[22:30] <knome> also, what kind of editing?
[22:30] <mrkramps> import in inkscape or use lo draw with pdfimport plugin
[22:30] <atello> scribus is good
[22:30] <mrkramps> afaik scribus cannot import pdf Oo
[22:30] <atello> oh
[22:30] <atello> hm
[22:31] <atello> have you tried editing pdf in gimp?
[22:31] <atello> it's possible
[22:31] <n-iCe> I need to a edit a pdf
[22:31] <n-iCe> and print it
[22:31] <n-iCe> this one
[22:31] <n-iCe> http://www.condusef.gob.mx/PDF-s/formatos_reclamacion/f_banco_credito.pdf
[22:31] <atello> libreoffice draw can edit pdfs
[22:31] <mrkramps> well, ok … scribus cannot _import_ PDFs, but just open them =D
[22:32] <n-iCe> installing libreoffice-draw
[22:32] <atello> xournal has been suggested online as well
[22:32] <knome> ugh, that should've been done with pdf forms...
[22:32] <knome> xournal is okay, but the UI is a bit clumsy
[22:33] <atello> have you tried online pdf editors?
[22:33] <knome> in this case i might just copy-paste this to a text editor
[22:33] <n-iCe> awesome draw solved it
[22:33] <n-iCe> thanks!
[22:33] <mrkramps> and there is also PDFedit in the ubuntu repository
[22:34] <atello> cheers n-iCe
[22:35] <atello> so, I have a little non-issue that's been bugging me forever. I'm using Arc-Dark theme, and thunderbird's tabs have white ends (where the tab curves down). Anyone know of a fix besides using a different color scheme/theme?
[22:36] <knome> this isn't the answer you "want", but contact the theme author(s) / fix the theme yourself
[22:37] <atello> switching between themes, it doesn't seem like it's related to the themes themselves but the way thunderbird's tabs are rendered
[22:38] <atello> the ends of the tab graphic are separate images, and they're always a few shades lighter
[22:38] <knome> mhm... well, thunderbird can work with some userchrome css, but figuring out what to change there can be a bit baffling
[22:39] <atello> fixed it
[22:39] <mrkramps> lol oO
[22:39] <atello> installed a theme specifically for thunderbird in the client itself
[22:40] <atello> it changed the tabs from the "chrome" style rounded ones to square tabs
[22:40] <atello> no ends, no issues
[22:40] <atello> lol
[22:40] <mrkramps> easy workaround :)
[22:40] <knome> that's a possibility as well
[22:40] <atello> what's funny is that those shade differences on the default tabs is present even on the default theme, but you need to change your display's gamma to notice it
[22:41] <mrkramps> i've just checked … there's arc dark for firefox, but thunderbird support is still on the wishlist
[22:41] <atello> boo :(
[22:41] <atello> arc is so pretty
[22:41] <atello> too bad papers looks weird on xfce4
[22:41] <atello> otherwise i'd use that
[22:44] <n-iCe> it's weird
[22:44] <n-iCe> draw does not see it as text
[22:44] <n-iCe> like tables
[22:44] <n-iCe> and I cannot change fonts for all etc
[22:44] <knome> n-iCe, again, as it's mostly only text, i'd just copy-paste it
[22:44] <mrkramps> n-iCe, that's just a raw import
[22:45] <knome> you can easily re-create the table on libreoffice writer
[22:47] <n-iCe> ok
[22:57] <atello> wow lightDM is being a pita
[22:58] <knome> considering this is a family-friendly channel, i guess you mean it's a sort of bread.
[22:58] <atello> absolutely
[22:58] <atello> a delicious pita sandwich
[22:58] <atello> full of "doesn't have access to that folder" and chicken
[23:17] <atello> psa, don't uninstall thunar lol
[23:17] <atello> apparently it takes some desktop menu/config stuff with it.
[23:18] <atello> learn something new every day
[23:18] <knome> yes, the desktop is managed by thunar
[23:18] <Unit193> xfdesktop.
[23:18] <atello> It's a great manager, but I just wish it had dual panel
[23:18] <atello> no harm done, reinstalled it and everything works fine again