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acheronukmeans I'm wondering if this is worth the hassle right now when yakkety, xenial, and plasma 5.8 LTS would likely be fine staying on Qt 5.6 :/00:17
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> Your call00:18
acheronuksuppose it depends when Qt 5.7 is to be used for real in kubuntu. KCI is a development tool to help with future/upcoming releases, not a "lets jut build with the latest thing for the hell of it" playground, in my mind00:32
acheronuktsimonq2: see what people say tomorrow. 00:34
acheronuktsimonq2: I would hold off putting and new Qt 5.7 in KCI for xenial yet.00:36
acheronuk*any new00:36
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> I'm for it :)00:39
acheronukI guessed. :P00:41
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> I need to stop doing anything ever :P00:43
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> Change the topic then ;)00:43
acheronukno. I'm just being cautious. and grumpy00:46
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> I'm grumpy too today :P00:48
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> Well night night Rik ;)00:50
acheronukah, now I remeber how to solve that failure. you have to give xfvb-run a screen size. duh!00:52
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> Lol00:53
acheronuknight. too late to try fixing now00:53
martjust letting you know - plasma in xenial staging seems to be broken on multimonitor setup, widgets appear only one screen, second one is empty (black). Qt 5.6 issue?06:25
IrcsomeBot<ovidiuflorin> yofel ping me when you're online. It's about the hostel07:04
yofelovidiuflorin: ping07:24
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soee_Chrome 53 Released With Speed Improvements, Shadow DOM07:51
martjust letting you know - plasma in xenial staging seems to be broken on multimonitor setup, widgets appear only one screen, second one is empty (black). Qt 5.6 issue? (sorry for spamming)08:38
soee_more Plasma related i think08:39
soee_i had that to08:39
martI had same problem with plasma 5.6, but logging out and in again solved it, now, it does not help anymore. AFAIK Qt 5.6 have many bugs with multimonitor setups which are solved in 5.708:41
acheronukyofel & Riddell - assuming it's ok to 'borrow' some of Neon's Qt 5.7 packages to test with KCI, how would you like them versioned to give due acknowledgement? e.g. example is currently 5.7.0-0neon+16.04+build508:47
yofelacheronuk: sounds reasonable to me?08:55
yofelacheronuk: actually, make that -0~neon please08:56
yofelhm, actually doesn't matter, u comes after n08:56
acheronukyofel: right. if that's ok either way, then great :) thanks08:57
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Riddellacheronuk: I care less about acknowledgement than that the branches get merged in :)09:04
Riddellhi slhk09:11
Riddellcoming live from the KDE e.V. AGM09:12
slhkhi Riddell!09:13
Riddellslhk: you the new Muon maintainer?09:14
slhkRiddell: yes, well working on it... depends on the definition09:15
Riddell:)09:15
RiddellI keep hearing there's a desire for a release with your fixes in it09:16
acheronukRiddell: point taken, and thank you :)09:16
slhkok, I try to follow Plasma version but I really don't have a schedule09:16
Riddellslhk: it just got removed from Plasma because plasma people didn't care about it09:17
Riddellslhk: you can either make releases yourself or if that's hassle you can just make it part of KDE Applications and releases will be done for you09:17
slhkyes, that's where I picked up09:17
Riddell(but then you don't control the shedule)09:17
slhkRiddell: including it in Applications would really help to have regular updates, but Muon development is slow09:22
Riddellslhk: lots of Applications don't get updated between releases, it's acutually a good place for slow moving apps to go because it takes away the hassle of release management09:22
slhkRiddell: then libQApt should be in Appllications too...09:24
Riddellmm I suppose so09:24
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Riddellslhk: sitter agreed qapt should be in Applications too10:05
sitterwell, I dont care or have a word really :P10:43
tsimonq2morning o/10:45
acheronukwho can add me to telegram on this channel?10:53
yofelI think it's public? does it appear if you search for "Kubuntu Devel"?10:58
acheronukI've searched a couple of times and couldn't find it10:59
yofelhm, indeed, it does not appear in the global search results o.O11:02
acheronukyes, seems so. I'm not in any hurry, so no bother11:12
IrcsomeBotacheronuk was added by: yofel11:13
acheronukthank you :) ^^^^11:14
yofelyw11:14
yofelovidiuflorin: any idea how to make that public? ^11:15
BluesKajHiyas all11:21
tsimonq2I'm off to school o/11:26
slhkRiddell: fine for qapt, but does it mean that it will jump to version 16.08.1 or 16.12 ?11:52
Riddellslhk: KDE Applications are funny for versions.  usually there's an internal version you can set to whatever you want and an Applications version used for the tars and announcement and use 16.12.  it's probably best to keep the two in sync but most projects don't12:36
Riddellbut yes the tar would become 16.12.012:37
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IrcsomeBot<Valoriez> Folks, shall we kubuntu people gather for dinner tonight?14:11
mamarleyHah, I had an Amarok build uploaded with my name on the changelog many months ago because I made a patch for MySQL 5.7, and I am still getting FTBFS notifications for that on s390x. :x14:18
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yofelok, I got past my biggest obstacle on my way to Berlin. I'm sitting in the train :D15:00
soee_:P15:01
BluesKajyofel, wifi or cell-internet15:02
BluesKaj ?15:02
BluesKajtrains here have just wifi afaik15:02
mamarleySome trains and buses here have WiFi too.  In fact, once before we had data plans my brother used the WiFi from a bus while I drove alongside the bus on the interstate.15:05
BluesKajyeah I forgot about buses mamarley, we have bus wifi here as well15:09
IrcsomeBot<yofel> Cell. Whenever I have a connection15:26
IrcsomeBot<yofel> Wifi would cost me money and isn't better15:27
BluesKajI thought wifi on trains was free15:34
yofelnot in germany....15:35
BluesKajok15:35
yofelwell, yet.15:35
BluesKajcell service here is expensive vs other countries due to the distances and relatively small population 15:38
blaze> Get:66 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu yakkety/universe amd64 toilet-fonts16:49
blazehuh?16:49
mamarley🚽16:50
acheronukhum http://caca.zoy.org/wiki/toilet16:53
acheronuktsimonq2: my yakkety test VM that had a working plasma desktop v 5.7.90 with KCI and Qt 5.6, is now thoroughly broken. :P18:51
acheronukQt 5.7 = black screen18:52
acheronuk& no plasma18:54
acheronuktsimonq2: but.................19:02
acheronukrolling back the VM and re-adding CI gets me to --> http://i.imgur.com/ikICK9y.jpg19:04
KurousagiMK2my yakkety нorks with Qt 5.7 http://imageshack.com/a/img922/3977/AQqBGg.png19:12
ahoneybunyou added the KCI or Neon19:13
KurousagiMK2KCI19:13
ahoneybunmm the kernel is built from git though?19:13
ahoneybunthanks for testing KurousagiMK2 19:13
KurousagiMK2yes :) I probably mad19:14
ahoneybunlol a bit19:14
acheronukI wouldn't do that on this real hardware!19:19
acheronukwell........ probably not19:19
ahoneybunand I moved from my desktop to using only my laptop20:35
ahoneybunbut the laptop has Ubuntu 16.04 on it20:35
ahoneybunI've removed 15.10 links off of the alt download page20:46
IrcsomeBot<marcinsagol> (Photo, 1138x640) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/aJnx6gui/file_245.jpg23:22
IrcsomeBot<marcinsagol> A new music player for KDE23:23
IrcsomeBot<ovidiuflorin> why is it so BIG?23:31

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