[02:07] <kstaschke> hello
[03:00] <adymitruk> I'm trying kubunt 16.04 on an laptop with an ATI card and I'm getting rendering issues with any system views like the status bar etc
[03:00] <adymitruk> firefox, konsole and everything else seems to be rendering correctly
[03:00] <adymitruk> the biggest issue is the login screen
[03:01] <adymitruk> the rendering there is very messed up making it hard to even read the time
[03:01] <adymitruk> seems to be a kde specific issue with ati??
[03:03] <Ashareth> check what drivers you use for your card
[03:03] <Ashareth> it's probably one that don't have full effects/3D rendering support
[03:03] <Ashareth> and it's enabled by default in kde on kubuntu from memory
[03:04] <adymitruk> Ashareth: thanks! anyway of turning that off to isolate the issue?
[03:05] <Ashareth> ni kde settings, desktop (from memory) turn off all effects and composite rendering
[03:05] <Ashareth> (compiz maybe the name, hadn't checkin quite some time)
[03:05] <adymitruk> ok.. it's the fonts that seem to get rastering
[03:08] <Ashareth> settings>hardware>display and monitor>compositor
[03:08] <Ashareth> and disable "compositor on startup"
[03:08] <Ashareth> that should do it
[03:08] <Ashareth> but check what ati drivers you have maybe it can be fixed with the proprietary ones from ati
[03:08] <Ashareth> instead of the opensource ones (or the other way around sometimes)
[03:09] <adymitruk> 16.04 has no support from ati for those anymore
[03:10] <adymitruk> annoying.. might try ubuntu mate to see if the same occurs on it
[03:10] <Ashareth> that just means you need to find the way to do that manually, even if it implies compilling your own kernel :)
[03:12] <adymitruk> no luck with the compositor setting.. all system fonts still render with huge chunks missing or raster effects
[03:13] <Ashareth> try to search how to install the latest possible ati drivers for your card
[03:14] <Ashareth> on ubuntu it might help
[03:14] <Ashareth> otherwise i'm at a loss sorry
[03:14] <adymitruk> it was actually worse with it turned off
[03:14] <adymitruk> is that a clue?
[03:15] <adymitruk> it seems compositor is rendering correctly
[03:15] <adymitruk> but the system menus/windows etc, are not using it
[03:15] <Ashareth> weird
[03:17] <adymitruk> yup.. going to see if ubuntu mate has the same issue..
[03:20] <adymitruk> seems like ubuntu mate works perfectly :/
[03:21] <adymitruk> was hoping kubuntu would be good here.. ah well
[05:01] <chiu> hi,guys
[05:31] <apb1963_> E: Package 'konversation' has no installation candidate
[05:39] <hateball> apb1963_: Is this on 16.04?
[05:42] <apb1963_> hateball: no.  14.04
[05:47] <hateball> apb1963_: ah, dont got such a machine handy atm. using any broken ppas? what does "apt-cache policy konversation" say?
[05:51] <apb1963_> hateball: http://pastebin.com/96k2bwi4
[06:12] <hateball> apb1963_: can you run "sudo apt-get update" successfully?
[06:13] <Steve25> Anyone playing with dell servers
[06:14] <Steve25> running an old kubuntu 64 bit server 7.04
[06:15] <apb1963> ubuntu 14.04 with KDE & plasma...  I don't know what I did exactly, but I pressed some combination of keys that blacked out all 6 of my virtual desktops.  I was still able to access the K menu and brought up a firefox browser...  while trying to determine what I did, someone sent me a skype message.  I'm not positive, but I think that was the point at which all the desktops were restored.  Then... I managed to do it again, this tim
[06:16] <apb1963> there are two different window worlds... and I'm bouncing back and forth between the two.
[06:16] <hateball> Steve25: 7.04 is long since dead, I hope you dont have it connected to the internet
[06:17] <Steve25> nonom just used it to revive some 1850 and 2850 that have stood around long time
[06:21] <Steve25> looking for a dell support chan
[06:21] <Steve25> btw im running it now ha
[06:21] <Steve25> like to clear all the errors
[06:21] <Steve25> like one is hanging in it4s bios after working well 2 days
[06:21] <Steve25> crap
[10:41] <viewer|91939> hola
[10:44] <hateball> !hello
[10:44] <hateball> ..
[10:45] <hateball> hello viewer|91939, do you have a kubuntu support question?
[10:45] <viewer|91939> Hi I do not speak Spanish
[10:46] <viewer|91939> How can I have KDE 5.7 on Ubuntu?
[10:47] <hateball> viewer|91939: In 16.04, you cannot unless you use KDE Neon
[10:48] <viewer|91939> I'm using it
[10:50] <viewer|91939> On the KDE website there is a file called: neon-useredition-20160825-1408-source.tar.xz
[10:50] <viewer|91939> for it is?
[10:50] <hateball> viewer|91939: Neon is not supported here
[10:50] <hateball> !neon
 Plasma 5.7 for kubuntu is being worked on, but not ready yet
[10:53] <viewer|91939> They tell me that Kubuntu will have no support. That's right?
[11:11] <apb1963_> hateball: Yes
[11:21] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[13:37] <jubo2> y0
[13:41]  * nlsthzn likes the sound of plasma 5.7 :D
[13:45] <nlsthzn> no that 5.6.5 isn't proving to be solid
[17:58] <Driminicus> I just added the Kubuntu Backports Landing ppa and upgraded
[17:59] <Driminicus> and everything is fine, except that korganizer gives the error message 'the Akonadi personal information management service is not operational.'
[18:00] <Driminicus> and as such I'm unable to use my calendar
[18:01] <Driminicus> it's not really a big deal for me, but it might be worth reporting
[18:01] <Driminicus> or if there's a solution, I'd like to use that ;-)
[18:05] <Driminicus> 'akonadictl start' in terminal spits out a lot of stuff, but I think the relevant error message is:
[18:07] <Driminicus> mysqld reports version 5.7.13 (Oracle MySQL)
[18:07] <Driminicus> Executing: "/usr/sbin/mysqld-akonadi" "--defaults-file=/home/driminicus/.local/share/akonadi/mysql.conf --datadir=/home/driminicus/.local/share/akonadi/db_data/ --socket=/tmp/akonadi-driminicus.7Y9Xqd/mysql.socket"
[18:07] <Driminicus> Database process exited unexpectedly during initial connection!
[18:07] <Driminicus> executable: "/usr/sbin/mysqld-akonadi"
[18:07] <Driminicus> arguments: ("--defaults-file=/home/driminicus/.local/share/akonadi/mysql.conf", "--datadir=/home/driminicus/.local/share/akonadi/db_data/", "--socket=/tmp/akonadi-driminicus.7Y9Xqd/mysql.socket")
[18:07] <Driminicus> stdout: ""
[18:09] <Driminicus> without flooding (sorry :)) https://paste.ubuntu.com/23121148/
[23:26] <slicktux> Hi all!
[23:26] <slicktux> I'm new to Kubuntu but not to linux. . .
[23:27] <slicktux> I come from the Gentoo community. . .
[23:27] <slicktux> I am using Kubuntu on my acer c720 chromebook. . .mainly because I like KDE and need a reliable binary distro.
[23:28]  * genii slides slicktux a fresh coffee
[23:28] <slicktux> what are the key differences between Ubuntu and Kubuntu, aside from the GUI?
[23:28]  * slicktux hmmmm, chugs all
[23:28]  * slicktux burns throat.
[23:29] <genii> slicktux: They use the same repositories, so not much difference.
[23:30] <slicktux> I'm not used to the package manager in Kubuntu. . .I am aware of the apt-get. . .and I'd like to say it is much better than the GUI for packages called "Discover".
[23:30] <slicktux> genii: is gnome completely stripped?
[23:30] <genii> slicktux: KDE uses Qt
[23:31] <slicktux> genii: Of course, I just thought that maybe KDE and GNOME were present but KDE was the default.
[23:31] <slicktux> genii: how about the kernel? is it Ubuntu kernel or custome KDE team kernel?
[23:31] <slicktux> s/KDE/Kubuntu
[23:32] <genii> If you install something which requires a gnome component, it installs the supporting packages which are standard Ubuntu so they are not special for KDE/Kubuntu
[23:32] <genii> kernel is the same across all *buntu
[23:34] <slicktux> genii: understood; thank you for the clarification. I am just used to the custom USE Flags of Gentoo. . .I need to adjsut, i.e. wrap my mind around it all. not too hard, thankfully.
[23:34] <genii> slicktux: If you like extra work for a bit of gain by tweaking packages yourself, might want to look at apt-build
[23:34] <slicktux> ;)
[23:35] <slicktux> genii: sounds interesting, I'll check it out.
[23:36] <slicktux> genii: However, I am using Kubuntu on the Acer C720 because it is time consuming to compile packages on such the hardware it has.
[23:41] <genii> slicktux: If you find KDE too heavy for the machine, you might care to investigate Lubuntu (LXDE/LXLE) or Xubuntu (XFCE) which are somewhat lighter on resources
[23:42] <slicktux> genii: thank you; so far Kubuntu is working out exceptionally.
[23:42] <genii> Excellent :)
[23:43] <slicktux> genii: I am having trouble searching for packages, say for example the passwd manager keepassx. . . the GUI Pacakge Manager "Discovery" lists nothing when I type in the search bar and apt-cache search keepassx does not list the package as well.
[23:43] <slicktux> is it case sensitive?
[23:44] <genii> !info keepassx
[23:44] <slicktux> genii: nvm, I overlooked.
[23:44] <slicktux> XD
[23:44] <slicktux> NICE, cool chat bot.
[23:44] <genii> slicktux: As the bot shows, it's in the "universe" repository, which you may need to enable first
[23:44] <slicktux> genii: I think I'll stick to the terminal and apt-get for package maitnance. the GUI seems sluggish.
[23:44] <slicktux> genii: how do I enable it?
[23:45] <genii> I also prefer apt/apt-get
[23:45]  * slicktux high fives!
[23:45]  * slicktux loves the terminal.
[23:45] <slicktux> much more efficient.
[23:46]  * slicktux remembers when he used to dislike the terminal.
[23:46] <genii> slicktux: Generally, sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list  ... and then uncomment the entries which are there
[23:46] <genii> ( or whatever cli editor you may prefer)
[23:46] <slicktux> genii: kk
[23:46] <slicktux> genii: I also removed sudo. . .I dislike it.
[23:46] <slicktux> su - for me
[23:47] <genii> slicktux: For *buntu distributions, sudo -i is the recommended
[23:48] <slicktux> genii: why so?
[23:48] <slicktux> genii: I ask with honest curiosity.
[23:49] <slicktux> genii: Is the system linked to sudo as a user?
[23:49] <genii> slicktux: If for instance you su -  then execute an application in user UID 1000 home directory, if that app makes dotfiles, eg like .nanorc or such, they will be made by root and inaccessible to that regular user
[23:50] <genii> It makes for messy permissions
[23:51] <slicktux> genii: I seee. I don't have sudo anymore so I cannot sudo --help to see what the -i flag means?
[23:51] <genii> interactive mode
[23:53] <genii> it also sets the environment while in interactive mode so that files like those .nanorc and so on get written to /root  and not to /home/user/whoever
[23:55] <slicktux> genii: Now take for example the utility hdparm. . . say I want info from /dev/sda
[23:55] <slicktux> and...
[23:55] <slicktux> so I must run it as root, hdparm -I /dev/sda
[23:56] <genii> slicktux: Then you do: sudo -i   ...after that you are at a root # prompt. you execute what requires it there. When done doing admin/root things, you use: exit to go back to normal user propmpt
[23:57] <slicktux> because otherwise I'd get permission denied. . .I fin it interesting that I can try to execute the command as user but I simply get a "permission denied" and the opposite when I run it as super user. Now, in my Gentoo distro hdparm cannot even be polled with hd(press tab here for auto complete) because I'd get a "command not foudn".
[23:58] <slicktux> I must try this with an external drive; maybe permissin is denied form sda but not for sd*?
[23:59] <slicktux> nope. . .does not work with external USB.