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pittio/15:01
tdaitx\o15:01
robruo~15:02
pittithat's a very 31337 club today15:03
tdaitxseems so15:04
pittihmm, postpone to next week then?15:04
xnoxyeah....15:05
pittiack, two week report next week it is :)15:06
pittitime for chasing down "OMGcloud images broken"15:06
cyphermoxsuup15:08
cyphermoxso, are we postponing or what?15:08
xnoxqui15:08
robruoh steve is off, somebody wanna take over this thing?15:08
pitticyphermox: I thought so when 5 mins into the meetting just three people waved15:08
pittiapparently more people are coming in now, so we can still have it15:08
robruwho knows how the bot works?15:08
pitti#startmeeting15:09
meetingologyMeeting started Thu Sep  1 15:09:16 2016 UTC.  The chair is pitti. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.15:09
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pitti$ echo $(shuf -e barry doko bdmurray slangasek caribou infinity sil2100 robru cyphermox pitti tdaitx xnox chiluk)15:09
pittitdaitx pitti bdmurray chiluk slangasek infinity barry doko cyphermox caribou xnox robru sil210015:09
=== pitti changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: lightning round
tdaitx= OpenJDK security update15:10
tdaitx- Further fixes on OpenJDK 6 since now g++ also segfaults when building it on Trusty/arm6415:10
tdaitx- Added patches to fix headers with pch disabled15:10
tdaitx- Added watch file + repack script15:10
tdaitx- Moved package source format to 3.0 (quilt)15:10
tdaitx= Helping on -proposed15:10
tdaitx- mozart requires autoconf2.13 which generates code that is unusable by gcc 6 (due to a different output from "g++ -E conftest.C"); not sure how to proceed: patch configure, update to newer autoconf (how?), or what?15:10
tdaitx- fixing repsnapper FTBFS on powerpc/ppc64el;15:10
tdaitx   * replace abs(double) with std::abs(double) - but why does abs(double) works fine on the other archs? (LP: #1619289)15:10
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1619289 in repsnapper (Ubuntu) "repsnapper FTBFS with gcc6" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/161928915:10
tdaitx   * powerpc/ppc64el missing TCGETS2 - what is the right fix? why is this even needed? (LP: #1619100)15:10
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1619100 in repsnapper (Ubuntu) "FTBFS on ppc64el: termios problems" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/161910015:10
tdaitx= Other15:10
tdaitx- Is it my impression or the builders are taking longer to get stuff from the ppas? Even with free build machines and a free queue it takes quite a while to start.15:10
tdaitx(done)15:10
pittiautopkgtest:15:10
pitti - Move result web UI from gazillions of plain files to sqlite and dynamic page generation, as debci kept running out of inodes and suffered from multi-hour delays. New sqlite+flask app now takes 0.1%(!) of the disk space, 10% of the code, and 30 seconds for each update run.15:10
pitti - Fix "apt-get source" version detection for single-line "Package-List:"15:10
pitti - britney: Implement Testsuite-Triggers:; should hopefully pinpoint regressions better15:10
pittinetplan:15:10
pitti - Add support for bonds, VLAN, and wifi with wpasupplicant+networkd (#1616928)15:10
pitti - -Correctly handle DHCP defaults in NM (#1617051)15:10
pitti - Read config from /lib/netplan/ for policies shipped in packages15:10
pittidistro:15:10
pitti - initramfs: Fix rootdelay interpretation (#1615751)15:10
pitti - merges: iptables15:10
pittimisc:15:10
pitti - meeting: Integrate ubuntu system touch tests with the CI train15:10
pitti - meeting: package install in cloud init15:11
pitti - patch pilot shift on Friday15:11
pitti - Learn basics about snapd, file some bugs (#1618198, #1618206, #1618207)15:11
pittiEND15:11
pittitdaitx: thanks for helping wit -proposed!15:11
pittinetworking, PPAs, Launchpad publisher etc. all have taken ages for two or three days now15:11
pittiindeed it seems the Canonical DC has some trouble15:11
bdmurrayinvetigation into errors when updating HWE stack on Trusty15:11
bdmurrayreviewed all Xorg HWE stack bug reports15:11
bdmurraysubscribed teams to Xorg HWE stack packages15:11
bdmurrayupdated 14.04 HWE EoL wiki page w/ references to fglrx deprecation15:11
tdaitxpitti, long overdue, trying to catch up now =)15:11
bdmurrayadded fglrx warning to hwe-support-status / update-manager15:11
bdmurrayupdated xorg-server-lts-xenial to conflict w/ fglrx15:11
bdmurraySRU verification of LP: #1617080, LP: #161744815:11
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1617080 in update-manager (Ubuntu Xenial) "update-manager apport package hook should gather HWE information" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/161708015:11
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1617448 in xorg-server-lts-xenial (Ubuntu Trusty) "HWE upgrade to lts-xenial stack fails if fglrx is installed" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/161744815:11
bdmurrayuploaded livecd-rootfs SRU for X for LP: #1561250, LP: #156598515:11
bdmurrayreviewed / approved ubuntu-archive-tools mp regarding team changes15:11
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1561250 in cloud-images "Xenial vagrant image is missing its hostname in /etc/hosts" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/156125015:11
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1565985 in cloud-images "vagrant vb ubuntu/xenial64 cannot mount synced folders" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/156598515:11
bdmurray✔ done15:11
cyphermoxchiluk_: ?15:12
xnoxpass -> see email no?15:13
cyphermoxah15:13
xnoxslangasek, out15:13
xnoxinfinity not on irc15:13
xnoxbarry is also out, no?15:13
cyphermoxbarry isn't around either AFAIK15:13
dokobarry is away too15:13
xnoxdoko =)15:13
doko- gcc-6 and binutils updates15:14
doko- gcc Linaro snapshot merge and build, trying to get some transitions done15:14
doko- MIR's, FTBFS, cleaning update-excuses15:14
doko- openjdk-9 build, forwarding bug reports15:14
doko- gdb 7.1215:14
doko- llvm toolchain updates15:14
doko- some python module updates15:14
doko- fight with autopkg testers ...15:14
doko- gave back failed builds in yakkety and yakkety-proposed15:14
doko- launchpad is slooowwwww15:14
doko(done)15:14
cyphermoxgrub:15:14
cyphermox - still working on unbreaking grub2 built with binutils 2.2715:14
cyphermox - more testing of IPv6 PXE boot in UEFI and sync with lamont15:14
cyphermox - testing grub builds with binutils 2.26.115:14
cyphermoxconsole-conf:15:14
cyphermox - tweaks for serial/VT console gettys to behave correctly15:14
cyphermox - various bug fixes for inclusion on the snap images15:14
cyphermoxubiquity:15:14
cyphermox - testing SRUs including HiDPI scaling fixes and SecureBoot UI15:14
cyphermoxnetwork-manager:15:14
cyphermox - needs more work for VPN DNS nameservers in split-tunnel mode15:14
cyphermoxubuntu-image:15:14
cyphermox - figuring out how this works and fixing up cloud-init preseeding15:14
cyphermox(done)15:14
pittiI get about 50 kB/s from archive.ubuntu.com (normally about 2.5 MB/s)..15:15
xnoxactually email was from caribou, not from chiluk....15:15
cyphermoxpitti: it's not just you15:15
xnoxshort week - monday was a bank holiday15:15
xnoxfinished all the zua feature work for now, all up to date in the ppa15:15
xnoxhelping fixing adt tests in openstack things, to fix s390x regressions (in progress, some will land with b3 uploads)15:15
xnoxgpg2 -> gpg transition15:15
xnox..15:15
cyphermoxwha?15:15
cyphermoxoh, nvm15:15
pittihe meant "<-" :)15:15
cyphermoxhe may have meant just dropping the 2.15:15
pittioh, you meant renaming15:15
* xnox meant just dropping the 2 =)15:16
cyphermoxwee15:16
xnoxgpg is now gpg2, gpg2 is now symlink to gpg15:16
cyphermoxthat means I can remove some scripts here.15:16
pittilet's all discuss for 15 minutes which direction the arrow should be15:16
* pitti can kill his ~/bin/gpg symlink \o/15:16
cyphermoxyeah15:16
cyphermoxnow the yubikey GPG magic is a first-class citizen15:16
robrulp:bileto15:17
robru- git support (in production but busted pending firewall fixes)15:17
robru- ignore no-change rebuilds in dest archive15:17
robru- ephemeral PPAs (in production but not usable yet)15:17
robru(done)15:17
pittirobru: oh, you are trying git clones from a ProdStack instance?15:18
robrupitti: git fetching and pushing, but yes15:18
pittirobru: (I banged my head on teh wall about that for too long and gave up)15:18
robrupitti: is there some secret?15:18
pittirobru: I do it in scalingstack instances now15:18
robrupitti: there is simply no giving up, we need this15:18
pittiPS is too annoyingly paranoid15:18
cyphermoxrobru: "- ignore no-change rebuilds in dest archive"  how do you do that?15:18
pittiLaney has discussed something like this with IS for ages15:18
pittino sil2100 either15:19
robrucyphermox: we download the DSC of the latest version in trunk's changelog, and then we download the DSC of the latest version in distro, debdiff them, and filterdiff out debian/changelog. if the result is an empty file, we ignore that. if the result has nonzero size, we report the error (preventing publication), and insist the user sync this change back to15:20
robrutrunk and rebuild.15:20
cyphermoxah, right15:20
pitti♪ where have all the developers gone? long time passing ♪ ♫15:20
=== pitti changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: AOB
Laneypitti: robru: If you just need a whitelist of domains, you can get IS to add that for you in squid15:21
Laneyassuming HTTP15:22
Laneyfor git://, dunno15:22
robruLaney: no we specifically need fetching and pushing for git+ssh15:22
tdaitxso, any easy way to deal with a package that requires autoconf-2.13 when that autoconf generates stuff don't work on gcc6?15:22
pittitdaitx: ugh, 2.*13*?15:22
pittiI didn't know that dinosaurs were still alive :)15:22
tdaitxyeah, the package/project has not seem an update in quite a few years15:23
pitti(autoconf 2.13 released in 1998 :) )15:23
pittitdaitx: remove-package ?15:23
tdaitxyou tell me =)15:24
pittioh dear, firefox and thunderbird use it15:25
pittithey didn't even exist yet when 2.13 was already obsolete..15:25
pittitdaitx: so, I'm afraid everything will be "not easy" at this point :(15:25
Laneydoes it really require 2.13?15:26
pittitdaitx: best might be to not run autoconf2.13 at boot, but have a good old debian/patches/99_autotools.pathc with the pregenerated stuff15:26
Laneyconvert to something more modern :)15:26
pittitdaitx: and then maybe some extra 99.1_autoconf2.13_quirks.patch to fiddle with Makefile.in to work with gcc-615:26
pittibut obviously, converting to 2.50 is best ;)15:26
tdaitxwell, I can't regenerate anything there with a newer autoconf, I would have to update it15:27
pittiregenerate with 2.13, I mean15:27
pittitdaitx: which package are we talknig about, btw?15:27
tdaitxpitti, mozart15:27
pittiwe should at least yell at  upstream about that15:27
pittithis is like "don't build me"15:27
tdaitxpitti, meh, I was stupid to trust the launchpad page, it says "Mozart — Content Management Framework based on JAVA.", but control file has "Mozart Programming System"15:32
tdaitxthe programming system is now at mozart 2.0, 1.4 is not being used any longer15:32
tdaitxthe mozart content management framework is dead, doesn't even have a project page any longer15:33
pittiany other business?15:34
pittilet's formally close this15:34
pitti#endmeeting15:34
=== meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds: Please leave swords by the door | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology
meetingologyMeeting ended Thu Sep  1 15:34:34 2016 UTC.15:34
meetingologyMinutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2016/ubuntu-meeting.2016-09-01-15.09.moin.txt15:34
pittitdaitx: and mozart has no reverse dependencies, so removal candidate15:36
tdaitxpitti, agreed15:36
pittitdaitx: except that it does not actually build-depend on autoconf2.1315:36
tdaitxpitti, it does not because that is not run during the build, it reuses the pre-generated stuff15:37
robrupitti: wait, you said git clone is impossible from prodstack? I do it already in staging instance!16:11
elacheche_aniso/20:00
pavlushkaelacheche_anis o/20:01
elacheche_anisHey pavlushka :)20:01
pavlushkaHello elacheche_anis :)20:01
diprawum here!:-)20:02
elacheche_anisWe start in a sec.. We wait to see if we have the quorum :)20:02
Kiloshi guys20:02
Kiloshi dipraw pavlushka20:02
elacheche_anisdipraw: o/20:02
diprawhi kilos :-D20:02
NaSbHello Kilos i'm here :)20:03
popeyo/20:03
diprawi am dipraw, from Dhaka Bangladesh20:03
pavlushkapopey: o/20:03
Kiloshi NaSb20:03
elacheche_anisdipraw: hello, we start in a sec :)20:04
zakio/20:04
diprawokay! :-)20:04
pavlushkahello from Bangladesh NaSb zaki dipraw nawaf walrider :)20:04
walriderim walrider from dhaka Bangladesh20:05
nawafhello there :)20:05
walriderhi all20:05
Kiloshi nawaf20:05
diprawhello again to all of u!20:05
nawafhello kilos :)20:05
NaSbPing from Gazipur,Bangladesh20:05
Kilosmr chair are you ready?20:06
iulian#startmeeting20:06
meetingologyMeeting started Thu Sep  1 20:06:16 2016 UTC.  The chair is iulian. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.20:06
meetingologyAvailable commands: action commands idea info link nick20:06
iulian#voters popey elacheche_anis Kilos iulian20:06
meetingologyCurrent voters: Kilos elacheche_anis iulian popey20:06
iulian#voter ahoneybun20:06
iulian#voters ahoneybun20:06
meetingologyCurrent voters: Kilos ahoneybun elacheche_anis iulian popey20:06
ahoneybunheyo all20:06
ahoneybunsorry about that20:06
Kiloshi ahoneybun20:06
ahoneybunhey Kilos20:07
pavlushkahello ahoneybun :)20:07
ahoneybunhey pavlushka20:07
pavlushkaHello iulian :)20:07
diprawhey ahoneybun20:07
ahoneybunlots of people today20:07
diprawhi*20:07
ahoneybunheyo dipraw20:07
Kilosty for chairing iulian20:07
iulianHello and welcome to the Ubuntu Membership Review Board meeting!20:07
walriderty very much20:08
walriderhappy to be here20:08
iulianApparently we just have one applicant so this should be quick.20:08
iulianHello pavlushka.20:08
diprawit's a pleasure!20:08
diprawokay20:08
pavlushkaHello iulian :)20:08
iulianpavlushka: Would you mind telling us a bit about yourself?20:09
Kiloswait20:09
Kilosoh sorry im slow20:09
Kilosgo ahead pavlushka20:09
pavlushkaiulian: sure, I am S. M. Pavel Sayekat from Bangladesh.20:09
pavlushkamy LP is https://launchpad.net/~pavelsayekat20:10
pavlushkaand my wiki is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/pavelsayekat20:10
iulianIs there anyone here who wants to show their support for Pavel?20:10
NaSbYes count me in :)20:11
iulianHi there NaSb.20:11
* elacheche_anis supports pavlushka20:11
nawafme too20:11
walrider#voteforpavl20:11
* pavlushka nods20:11
zakihey iulian here i'm supporting pavlushka20:11
* Kilos supports pavlushka20:12
walriderim supporting pavlushka20:12
dipraw#voteforpavlushka20:12
elacheche_aniswalrider: that'll not work :)20:12
iulianYay!20:12
iulianCool, thanks everyone.20:12
walriderwhats the command iulian ?20:12
diprawi also vote for pavlushla20:12
elacheche_aniswalrider: only iulian can use the command20:12
nawafhe is always willing to help others, i am supporting pavlushka20:12
walrideroh ok20:13
walrideri am supporting pavlushka20:13
diprawpavlushka is always eager to help20:13
diprawand he haven't let me down till now20:14
popeypavlushka: http://imgur.com/a/ElsL9 was nice to see!20:14
popeyflexiondotorg: ^ Ubuntu MATE in a small business in Bangladesh20:14
walriderpavlushka 100% dedicated and always eager to help other20:14
* ahoneybun thinks popey is bias in his love of MATE20:15
pavlushkalike to mention my irc contributions http://paste.ubuntu.com/23121519/20:15
Kiloslol20:15
popeyahoneybun: I love all ubuntu flavours :)20:15
diprawha ha ha20:15
pavlushkaand http://paste.ubuntu.com/23121528/20:15
popeypavlushka: what's the next big thing for you?20:16
pavlushkathanks popey I am overwhelmed :)20:16
popeyWhat big project would you like to take on?20:16
pavlushkapopey: The LoCo and its site20:16
pavlushkato revive20:16
ahoneybunloco.ubuntu.com?20:16
pavlushkaBD LoCo20:17
popeyAwesome. I watched a TV programme about Bangladesh last night, looks like a beautiful place.20:17
pavlushkaBangladesh20:17
ahoneybunoh your LoCo20:17
pavlushkayes ahoneybun :)20:17
pavlushkasorry for incomplete drafting of irc logs :(20:18
iulianOkey dokey. Thank you very much for your answers pavlushka.20:18
iulianI think we are now ready to vote.20:18
popeypavlushka: it's fine, most people don't provide all those irc logs, it's fun to read :)20:18
iulian#vote pavlushka for Ubuntu membership20:19
meetingologyPlease vote on: pavlushka for Ubuntu membership20:19
meetingologyPublic votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1/-1/+0 #channelname)20:19
elacheche_anis+1 Keep the good work pavlushka :)20:19
meetingology+1 Keep the good work pavlushka :) received from elacheche_anis20:19
iulian+120:19
meetingology+1 received from iulian20:19
ahoneybun+1 always for LoCo work20:19
meetingology+1 always for LoCo work received from ahoneybun20:19
AudaciousTUX-120:19
walrider+120:19
Kilos+1 Keep it up lad, you are doing great work20:19
meetingology+1 Keep it up lad, you are doing great work received from Kilos20:19
elacheche_anisJust for the records, wxl and belkinsa voted +1 as well.. :)20:19
NaSb+1 from NaSb20:19
elacheche_anisNaSb: only board members can vote :)20:20
diprawvote for pavlushla20:20
popey+120:20
meetingology+1 received from popey20:20
iulian#endvote20:20
meetingologyVoting ended on: pavlushka for Ubuntu membership20:20
meetingologyVotes for:5 Votes against:0 Abstentions:020:20
meetingologyMotion carried20:20
Kilosonly membership board can vote guys20:20
popeyexcellent contributions pavlushla! Thank you!20:20
walrider+120:20
pavlushkaand we have AudaciousTUX from Bangladesh too :)20:20
elacheche_anisCongrats pavlushka :)20:20
iulianCongratulations pavlushka and welcome aboard!20:20
popey\o/20:20
Kiloscongrats pavlushka welcome on board20:20
ahoneybunsweet stuff pavlushka20:20
popeyThanks to those who came to support pavlushka too :)20:20
* pavlushka nods to all20:20
walridercongrats from dhaka20:20
* pavlushka thanking all for their support :)20:21
diprawcongratulations!!!!!!! bro!!!20:21
iulianThat's all folks. Thanks very much for attending, especially the guys who showed their support for pavlushka!20:21
iulian#endmeeting20:21
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meetingologyMeeting ended Thu Sep  1 20:21:19 2016 UTC.20:21
meetingologyMinutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2016/ubuntu-meeting.2016-09-01-20.06.moin.txt20:21
Kilosthanks for chairing iulian and thanks board members20:21
popey\o/20:21
popeynice one20:22
diprawyeah thanks to all! :-D20:22
walriderGG20:22
NaSbThanks all of you Board members :)20:22
Kiloswe are here to serve20:23
nawafthank you everyone for being here :)20:23
Kilosand normally give applicants a hard time20:23
pavlushkalol @ Kilos20:23
pavlushkamissing belkinsa20:23
Kilosyip20:23
diprawand yeah i guess i didn't mix up this time!!!20:24
pavlushkadipraw: really?20:24
diprawdid i?20:24
dipraw:/20:24
pavlushkadipraw: ok, you did good :)20:24

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