[15:01] <pitti> o/
[15:01] <tdaitx> \o
[15:02] <robru> o~
[15:03] <pitti> that's a very 31337 club today
[15:04] <tdaitx> seems so
[15:04] <pitti> hmm, postpone to next week then?
[15:05] <xnox> yeah....
[15:06] <pitti> ack, two week report next week it is :)
[15:06] <pitti> time for chasing down "OMGcloud images broken"
[15:08] <cyphermox> suup
[15:08] <cyphermox> so, are we postponing or what?
[15:08] <xnox> qui
[15:08] <robru> oh steve is off, somebody wanna take over this thing?
[15:08] <pitti> cyphermox: I thought so when 5 mins into the meetting just three people waved
[15:08] <pitti> apparently more people are coming in now, so we can still have it
[15:08] <robru> who knows how the bot works?
[15:09] <pitti> #startmeeting
[15:09] <meetingology> Meeting started Thu Sep  1 15:09:16 2016 UTC.  The chair is pitti. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[15:09] <pitti> $ echo $(shuf -e barry doko bdmurray slangasek caribou infinity sil2100 robru cyphermox pitti tdaitx xnox chiluk)
[15:09] <pitti> tdaitx pitti bdmurray chiluk slangasek infinity barry doko cyphermox caribou xnox robru sil2100
[15:10] <tdaitx> = OpenJDK security update
[15:10] <tdaitx> - Further fixes on OpenJDK 6 since now g++ also segfaults when building it on Trusty/arm64
[15:10] <tdaitx> - Added patches to fix headers with pch disabled
[15:10] <tdaitx> - Added watch file + repack script
[15:10] <tdaitx> - Moved package source format to 3.0 (quilt)
[15:10] <tdaitx> = Helping on -proposed
[15:10] <tdaitx> - mozart requires autoconf2.13 which generates code that is unusable by gcc 6 (due to a different output from "g++ -E conftest.C"); not sure how to proceed: patch configure, update to newer autoconf (how?), or what?
[15:10] <tdaitx> - fixing repsnapper FTBFS on powerpc/ppc64el;
[15:10] <tdaitx>    * replace abs(double) with std::abs(double) - but why does abs(double) works fine on the other archs? (LP: #1619289)
[15:10] <tdaitx>    * powerpc/ppc64el missing TCGETS2 - what is the right fix? why is this even needed? (LP: #1619100)
[15:10] <tdaitx> = Other
[15:10] <tdaitx> - Is it my impression or the builders are taking longer to get stuff from the ppas? Even with free build machines and a free queue it takes quite a while to start.
[15:10] <tdaitx> (done)
[15:10] <pitti> autopkgtest:
[15:10] <pitti>  - Move result web UI from gazillions of plain files to sqlite and dynamic page generation, as debci kept running out of inodes and suffered from multi-hour delays. New sqlite+flask app now takes 0.1%(!) of the disk space, 10% of the code, and 30 seconds for each update run.
[15:10] <pitti>  - Fix "apt-get source" version detection for single-line "Package-List:"
[15:10] <pitti>  - britney: Implement Testsuite-Triggers:; should hopefully pinpoint regressions better
[15:10] <pitti> netplan:
[15:10] <pitti>  - Add support for bonds, VLAN, and wifi with wpasupplicant+networkd (#1616928)
[15:10] <pitti>  - -Correctly handle DHCP defaults in NM (#1617051)
[15:10] <pitti>  - Read config from /lib/netplan/ for policies shipped in packages
[15:10] <pitti> distro:
[15:10] <pitti>  - initramfs: Fix rootdelay interpretation (#1615751)
[15:10] <pitti>  - merges: iptables
[15:10] <pitti> misc:
[15:10] <pitti>  - meeting: Integrate ubuntu system touch tests with the CI train
[15:11] <pitti>  - meeting: package install in cloud init
[15:11] <pitti>  - patch pilot shift on Friday
[15:11] <pitti>  - Learn basics about snapd, file some bugs (#1618198, #1618206, #1618207)
[15:11] <pitti> END
[15:11] <pitti> tdaitx: thanks for helping wit -proposed!
[15:11] <pitti> networking, PPAs, Launchpad publisher etc. all have taken ages for two or three days now
[15:11] <pitti> indeed it seems the Canonical DC has some trouble
[15:11] <bdmurray> invetigation into errors when updating HWE stack on Trusty
[15:11] <bdmurray> reviewed all Xorg HWE stack bug reports
[15:11] <bdmurray> subscribed teams to Xorg HWE stack packages
[15:11] <bdmurray> updated 14.04 HWE EoL wiki page w/ references to fglrx deprecation
[15:11] <tdaitx> pitti, long overdue, trying to catch up now =)
[15:11] <bdmurray> added fglrx warning to hwe-support-status / update-manager
[15:11] <bdmurray> updated xorg-server-lts-xenial to conflict w/ fglrx
[15:11] <bdmurray> SRU verification of LP: #1617080, LP: #1617448
[15:11] <bdmurray> uploaded livecd-rootfs SRU for X for LP: #1561250, LP: #1565985
[15:11] <bdmurray> reviewed / approved ubuntu-archive-tools mp regarding team changes
[15:11] <bdmurray> ✔ done
[15:12] <cyphermox> chiluk_: ?
[15:13] <xnox> pass -> see email no?
[15:13] <cyphermox> ah
[15:13] <xnox> slangasek, out
[15:13] <xnox> infinity not on irc
[15:13] <xnox> barry is also out, no?
[15:13] <cyphermox> barry isn't around either AFAIK
[15:13] <doko> barry is away too
[15:13] <xnox> doko =)
[15:14] <doko> - gcc-6 and binutils updates
[15:14] <doko> - gcc Linaro snapshot merge and build, trying to get some transitions done
[15:14] <doko> - MIR's, FTBFS, cleaning update-excuses
[15:14] <doko> - openjdk-9 build, forwarding bug reports
[15:14] <doko> - gdb 7.12
[15:14] <doko> - llvm toolchain updates
[15:14] <doko> - some python module updates
[15:14] <doko> - fight with autopkg testers ...
[15:14] <doko> - gave back failed builds in yakkety and yakkety-proposed
[15:14] <doko> - launchpad is slooowwwww
[15:14] <doko> (done)
[15:14] <cyphermox> grub:
[15:14] <cyphermox>  - still working on unbreaking grub2 built with binutils 2.27
[15:14] <cyphermox>  - more testing of IPv6 PXE boot in UEFI and sync with lamont
[15:14] <cyphermox>  - testing grub builds with binutils 2.26.1
[15:14] <cyphermox> console-conf:
[15:14] <cyphermox>  - tweaks for serial/VT console gettys to behave correctly
[15:14] <cyphermox>  - various bug fixes for inclusion on the snap images
[15:14] <cyphermox> ubiquity:
[15:14] <cyphermox>  - testing SRUs including HiDPI scaling fixes and SecureBoot UI
[15:14] <cyphermox> network-manager:
[15:14] <cyphermox>  - needs more work for VPN DNS nameservers in split-tunnel mode
[15:14] <cyphermox> ubuntu-image:
[15:14] <cyphermox>  - figuring out how this works and fixing up cloud-init preseeding
[15:14] <cyphermox> (done)
[15:15] <pitti> I get about 50 kB/s from archive.ubuntu.com (normally about 2.5 MB/s)..
[15:15] <xnox> actually email was from caribou, not from chiluk....
[15:15] <cyphermox> pitti: it's not just you
[15:15] <xnox> short week - monday was a bank holiday
[15:15] <xnox> finished all the zua feature work for now, all up to date in the ppa
[15:15] <xnox> helping fixing adt tests in openstack things, to fix s390x regressions (in progress, some will land with b3 uploads)
[15:15] <xnox> gpg2 -> gpg transition
[15:15] <xnox> ..
[15:15] <cyphermox> wha?
[15:15] <cyphermox> oh, nvm
[15:15] <pitti> he meant "<-" :)
[15:15] <cyphermox> he may have meant just dropping the 2.
[15:15] <pitti> oh, you meant renaming
[15:16]  * xnox meant just dropping the 2 =)
[15:16] <cyphermox> wee
[15:16] <xnox> gpg is now gpg2, gpg2 is now symlink to gpg
[15:16] <cyphermox> that means I can remove some scripts here.
[15:16] <pitti> let's all discuss for 15 minutes which direction the arrow should be
[15:16]  * pitti can kill his ~/bin/gpg symlink \o/
[15:16] <cyphermox> yeah
[15:16] <cyphermox> now the yubikey GPG magic is a first-class citizen
[15:17] <robru> lp:bileto
[15:17] <robru> - git support (in production but busted pending firewall fixes)
[15:17] <robru> - ignore no-change rebuilds in dest archive
[15:17] <robru> - ephemeral PPAs (in production but not usable yet)
[15:17] <robru> (done)
[15:18] <pitti> robru: oh, you are trying git clones from a ProdStack instance?
[15:18] <robru> pitti: git fetching and pushing, but yes
[15:18] <pitti> robru: (I banged my head on teh wall about that for too long and gave up)
[15:18] <robru> pitti: is there some secret?
[15:18] <pitti> robru: I do it in scalingstack instances now
[15:18] <robru> pitti: there is simply no giving up, we need this
[15:18] <pitti> PS is too annoyingly paranoid
[15:18] <cyphermox> robru: "- ignore no-change rebuilds in dest archive"  how do you do that?
[15:18] <pitti> Laney has discussed something like this with IS for ages
[15:19] <pitti> no sil2100 either
[15:20] <robru> cyphermox: we download the DSC of the latest version in trunk's changelog, and then we download the DSC of the latest version in distro, debdiff them, and filterdiff out debian/changelog. if the result is an empty file, we ignore that. if the result has nonzero size, we report the error (preventing publication), and insist the user sync this change back to
[15:20] <robru> trunk and rebuild.
[15:20] <cyphermox> ah, right
[15:20] <pitti> ♪ where have all the developers gone? long time passing ♪ ♫
[15:21] <Laney> pitti: robru: If you just need a whitelist of domains, you can get IS to add that for you in squid
[15:22] <Laney> assuming HTTP
[15:22] <Laney> for git://, dunno
[15:22] <robru> Laney: no we specifically need fetching and pushing for git+ssh
[15:22] <tdaitx> so, any easy way to deal with a package that requires autoconf-2.13 when that autoconf generates stuff don't work on gcc6?
[15:22] <pitti> tdaitx: ugh, 2.*13*?
[15:22] <pitti> I didn't know that dinosaurs were still alive :)
[15:23] <tdaitx> yeah, the package/project has not seem an update in quite a few years
[15:23] <pitti> (autoconf 2.13 released in 1998 :) )
[15:23] <pitti> tdaitx: remove-package ?
[15:24] <tdaitx> you tell me =)
[15:25] <pitti> oh dear, firefox and thunderbird use it
[15:25] <pitti> they didn't even exist yet when 2.13 was already obsolete..
[15:25] <pitti> tdaitx: so, I'm afraid everything will be "not easy" at this point :(
[15:26] <Laney> does it really require 2.13?
[15:26] <pitti> tdaitx: best might be to not run autoconf2.13 at boot, but have a good old debian/patches/99_autotools.pathc with the pregenerated stuff
[15:26] <Laney> convert to something more modern :)
[15:26] <pitti> tdaitx: and then maybe some extra 99.1_autoconf2.13_quirks.patch to fiddle with Makefile.in to work with gcc-6
[15:26] <pitti> but obviously, converting to 2.50 is best ;)
[15:27] <tdaitx> well, I can't regenerate anything there with a newer autoconf, I would have to update it
[15:27] <pitti> regenerate with 2.13, I mean
[15:27] <pitti> tdaitx: which package are we talknig about, btw?
[15:27] <tdaitx> pitti, mozart
[15:27] <pitti> we should at least yell at  upstream about that
[15:27] <pitti> this is like "don't build me"
[15:32] <tdaitx> pitti, meh, I was stupid to trust the launchpad page, it says "Mozart — Content Management Framework based on JAVA.", but control file has "Mozart Programming System"
[15:32] <tdaitx> the programming system is now at mozart 2.0, 1.4 is not being used any longer
[15:33] <tdaitx> the mozart content management framework is dead, doesn't even have a project page any longer
[15:34] <pitti> any other business?
[15:34] <pitti> let's formally close this
[15:34] <pitti> #endmeeting
[15:34] <meetingology> Meeting ended Thu Sep  1 15:34:34 2016 UTC.
[15:34] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2016/ubuntu-meeting.2016-09-01-15.09.moin.txt
[15:36] <pitti> tdaitx: and mozart has no reverse dependencies, so removal candidate
[15:36] <tdaitx> pitti, agreed
[15:36] <pitti> tdaitx: except that it does not actually build-depend on autoconf2.13
[15:37] <tdaitx> pitti, it does not because that is not run during the build, it reuses the pre-generated stuff
[16:11] <robru> pitti: wait, you said git clone is impossible from prodstack? I do it already in staging instance!
[20:00] <elacheche_anis> o/
[20:01] <pavlushka> elacheche_anis o/
[20:01] <elacheche_anis> Hey pavlushka :)
[20:01] <pavlushka> Hello elacheche_anis :)
[20:02] <dipraw> um here!:-)
[20:02] <elacheche_anis> We start in a sec.. We wait to see if we have the quorum :)
[20:02] <Kilos> hi guys
[20:02] <Kilos> hi dipraw pavlushka
[20:02] <elacheche_anis> dipraw: o/
[20:02] <dipraw> hi kilos :-D
[20:03] <NaSb> Hello Kilos i'm here :)
[20:03] <popey> o/
[20:03] <dipraw> i am dipraw, from Dhaka Bangladesh
[20:03] <pavlushka> popey: o/
[20:03] <Kilos> hi NaSb
[20:04] <elacheche_anis> dipraw: hello, we start in a sec :)
[20:04] <zaki> o/
[20:04] <dipraw> okay! :-)
[20:04] <pavlushka> hello from Bangladesh NaSb zaki dipraw nawaf walrider :)
[20:05] <walrider> im walrider from dhaka Bangladesh
[20:05] <nawaf> hello there :)
[20:05] <walrider> hi all
[20:05] <Kilos> hi nawaf
[20:05] <dipraw> hello again to all of u!
[20:05] <nawaf> hello kilos :)
[20:05] <NaSb> Ping from Gazipur,Bangladesh
[20:06] <Kilos> mr chair are you ready?
[20:06] <iulian> #startmeeting
[20:06] <meetingology> Meeting started Thu Sep  1 20:06:16 2016 UTC.  The chair is iulian. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
[20:06] <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick
[20:06] <iulian> #voters popey elacheche_anis Kilos iulian
[20:06] <meetingology> Current voters: Kilos elacheche_anis iulian popey
[20:06] <iulian> #voter ahoneybun
[20:06] <iulian> #voters ahoneybun
[20:06] <meetingology> Current voters: Kilos ahoneybun elacheche_anis iulian popey
[20:06] <ahoneybun> heyo all
[20:06] <ahoneybun> sorry about that
[20:06] <Kilos> hi ahoneybun
[20:07] <ahoneybun> hey Kilos
[20:07] <pavlushka> hello ahoneybun :)
[20:07] <ahoneybun> hey pavlushka
[20:07] <pavlushka> Hello iulian :)
[20:07] <dipraw> hey ahoneybun
[20:07] <ahoneybun> lots of people today
[20:07] <dipraw> hi*
[20:07] <ahoneybun> heyo dipraw
[20:07] <Kilos> ty for chairing iulian
[20:07] <iulian> Hello and welcome to the Ubuntu Membership Review Board meeting!
[20:08] <walrider> ty very much
[20:08] <walrider> happy to be here
[20:08] <iulian> Apparently we just have one applicant so this should be quick.
[20:08] <iulian> Hello pavlushka.
[20:08] <dipraw> it's a pleasure!
[20:08] <dipraw> okay
[20:08] <pavlushka> Hello iulian :)
[20:09] <iulian> pavlushka: Would you mind telling us a bit about yourself?
[20:09] <Kilos> wait
[20:09] <Kilos> oh sorry im slow
[20:09] <Kilos> go ahead pavlushka
[20:09] <pavlushka> iulian: sure, I am S. M. Pavel Sayekat from Bangladesh.
[20:10] <pavlushka> my LP is https://launchpad.net/~pavelsayekat
[20:10] <pavlushka> and my wiki is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/pavelsayekat
[20:10] <iulian> Is there anyone here who wants to show their support for Pavel?
[20:11] <NaSb> Yes count me in :)
[20:11] <iulian> Hi there NaSb.
[20:11]  * elacheche_anis supports pavlushka
[20:11] <nawaf> me too
[20:11] <walrider> #voteforpavl
[20:11]  * pavlushka nods
[20:11] <zaki> hey iulian here i'm supporting pavlushka
[20:12]  * Kilos supports pavlushka
[20:12] <walrider> im supporting pavlushka
[20:12] <dipraw> #voteforpavlushka
[20:12] <elacheche_anis> walrider: that'll not work :)
[20:12] <iulian> Yay!
[20:12] <iulian> Cool, thanks everyone.
[20:12] <walrider> whats the command iulian ?
[20:12] <dipraw> i also vote for pavlushla
[20:12] <elacheche_anis> walrider: only iulian can use the command
[20:12] <nawaf> he is always willing to help others, i am supporting pavlushka
[20:13] <walrider> oh ok
[20:13] <walrider> i am supporting pavlushka
[20:13] <dipraw> pavlushka is always eager to help
[20:14] <dipraw> and he haven't let me down till now
[20:14] <popey> pavlushka: http://imgur.com/a/ElsL9 was nice to see!
[20:14] <popey> flexiondotorg: ^ Ubuntu MATE in a small business in Bangladesh
[20:14] <walrider> pavlushka 100% dedicated and always eager to help other
[20:15]  * ahoneybun thinks popey is bias in his love of MATE
[20:15] <pavlushka> like to mention my irc contributions http://paste.ubuntu.com/23121519/
[20:15] <Kilos> lol
[20:15] <popey> ahoneybun: I love all ubuntu flavours :)
[20:15] <dipraw> ha ha ha
[20:15] <pavlushka> and http://paste.ubuntu.com/23121528/
[20:16] <popey> pavlushka: what's the next big thing for you?
[20:16] <pavlushka> thanks popey I am overwhelmed :)
[20:16] <popey> What big project would you like to take on?
[20:16] <pavlushka> popey: The LoCo and its site
[20:16] <pavlushka> to revive
[20:16] <ahoneybun> loco.ubuntu.com?
[20:17] <pavlushka> BD LoCo
[20:17] <popey> Awesome. I watched a TV programme about Bangladesh last night, looks like a beautiful place.
[20:17] <pavlushka> Bangladesh
[20:17] <ahoneybun> oh your LoCo
[20:17] <pavlushka> yes ahoneybun :)
[20:18] <pavlushka> sorry for incomplete drafting of irc logs :(
[20:18] <iulian> Okey dokey. Thank you very much for your answers pavlushka.
[20:18] <iulian> I think we are now ready to vote.
[20:18] <popey> pavlushka: it's fine, most people don't provide all those irc logs, it's fun to read :)
[20:19] <iulian> #vote pavlushka for Ubuntu membership
[20:19] <meetingology> Please vote on: pavlushka for Ubuntu membership
[20:19] <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1/-1/+0 #channelname)
[20:19] <elacheche_anis> +1 Keep the good work pavlushka :)
[20:19] <meetingology> +1 Keep the good work pavlushka :) received from elacheche_anis
[20:19] <iulian> +1
[20:19] <meetingology> +1 received from iulian
[20:19] <ahoneybun> +1 always for LoCo work
[20:19] <meetingology> +1 always for LoCo work received from ahoneybun
[20:19] <AudaciousTUX> -1
[20:19] <walrider> +1
[20:19] <Kilos> +1 Keep it up lad, you are doing great work
[20:19] <meetingology> +1 Keep it up lad, you are doing great work received from Kilos
[20:19] <elacheche_anis> Just for the records, wxl and belkinsa voted +1 as well.. :)
[20:19] <NaSb> +1 from NaSb
[20:20] <elacheche_anis> NaSb: only board members can vote :)
[20:20] <dipraw> vote for pavlushla
[20:20] <popey> +1
[20:20] <meetingology> +1 received from popey
[20:20] <iulian> #endvote
[20:20] <meetingology> Voting ended on: pavlushka for Ubuntu membership
[20:20] <meetingology> Votes for:5 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0
[20:20] <meetingology> Motion carried
[20:20] <Kilos> only membership board can vote guys
[20:20] <popey> excellent contributions pavlushla! Thank you!
[20:20] <walrider> +1
[20:20] <pavlushka> and we have AudaciousTUX from Bangladesh too :)
[20:20] <elacheche_anis> Congrats pavlushka :)
[20:20] <iulian> Congratulations pavlushka and welcome aboard!
[20:20] <popey> \o/
[20:20] <Kilos> congrats pavlushka welcome on board
[20:20] <ahoneybun> sweet stuff pavlushka
[20:20] <popey> Thanks to those who came to support pavlushka too :)
[20:20]  * pavlushka nods to all
[20:20] <walrider> congrats from dhaka
[20:21]  * pavlushka thanking all for their support :)
[20:21] <dipraw> congratulations!!!!!!! bro!!!
[20:21] <iulian> That's all folks. Thanks very much for attending, especially the guys who showed their support for pavlushka!
[20:21] <iulian> #endmeeting
[20:21] <meetingology> Meeting ended Thu Sep  1 20:21:19 2016 UTC.
[20:21] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2016/ubuntu-meeting.2016-09-01-20.06.moin.txt
[20:21] <Kilos> thanks for chairing iulian and thanks board members
[20:21] <popey> \o/
[20:22] <popey> nice one
[20:22] <dipraw> yeah thanks to all! :-D
[20:22] <walrider> GG
[20:22] <NaSb> Thanks all of you Board members :)
[20:23] <Kilos> we are here to serve
[20:23] <nawaf> thank you everyone for being here :)
[20:23] <Kilos> and normally give applicants a hard time
[20:23] <pavlushka> lol @ Kilos
[20:23] <pavlushka> missing belkinsa
[20:23] <Kilos> yip
[20:24] <dipraw> and yeah i guess i didn't mix up this time!!!
[20:24] <pavlushka> dipraw: really?
[20:24] <dipraw> did i?
[20:24] <dipraw> :/
[20:24] <pavlushka> dipraw: ok, you did good :)