=== dgadomski_ is now known as dgadomski === pavlushka is now known as Guest42214 === Guest42214 is now known as pavlushka === pavlushka is now known as Guest59036 === pavlushka_ is now known as Guest56533 === Guest56533 is now known as pavlushka === JanC is now known as Guest23252 === JanC_ is now known as JanC === pavlushka_ is now known as pavlushka === pavlushka_ is now known as Guest89318 === Guest89318 is now known as pavlushka [15:01] o/ [15:01] \o [15:02] o~ [15:03] that's a very 31337 club today [15:04] seems so [15:04] hmm, postpone to next week then? [15:05] yeah.... [15:06] ack, two week report next week it is :) [15:06] time for chasing down "OMGcloud images broken" [15:08] suup [15:08] so, are we postponing or what? [15:08] qui [15:08] oh steve is off, somebody wanna take over this thing? [15:08] cyphermox: I thought so when 5 mins into the meetting just three people waved [15:08] apparently more people are coming in now, so we can still have it [15:08] who knows how the bot works? [15:09] #startmeeting [15:09] Meeting started Thu Sep 1 15:09:16 2016 UTC. The chair is pitti. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. [15:09] Available commands: action commands idea info link nick [15:09] $ echo $(shuf -e barry doko bdmurray slangasek caribou infinity sil2100 robru cyphermox pitti tdaitx xnox chiluk) [15:09] tdaitx pitti bdmurray chiluk slangasek infinity barry doko cyphermox caribou xnox robru sil2100 === pitti changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: lightning round [15:10] = OpenJDK security update [15:10] - Further fixes on OpenJDK 6 since now g++ also segfaults when building it on Trusty/arm64 [15:10] - Added patches to fix headers with pch disabled [15:10] - Added watch file + repack script [15:10] - Moved package source format to 3.0 (quilt) [15:10] = Helping on -proposed [15:10] - mozart requires autoconf2.13 which generates code that is unusable by gcc 6 (due to a different output from "g++ -E conftest.C"); not sure how to proceed: patch configure, update to newer autoconf (how?), or what? [15:10] - fixing repsnapper FTBFS on powerpc/ppc64el; [15:10] * replace abs(double) with std::abs(double) - but why does abs(double) works fine on the other archs? (LP: #1619289) [15:10] Launchpad bug 1619289 in repsnapper (Ubuntu) "repsnapper FTBFS with gcc6" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1619289 [15:10] * powerpc/ppc64el missing TCGETS2 - what is the right fix? why is this even needed? (LP: #1619100) [15:10] Launchpad bug 1619100 in repsnapper (Ubuntu) "FTBFS on ppc64el: termios problems" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1619100 [15:10] = Other [15:10] - Is it my impression or the builders are taking longer to get stuff from the ppas? Even with free build machines and a free queue it takes quite a while to start. [15:10] (done) [15:10] autopkgtest: [15:10] - Move result web UI from gazillions of plain files to sqlite and dynamic page generation, as debci kept running out of inodes and suffered from multi-hour delays. New sqlite+flask app now takes 0.1%(!) of the disk space, 10% of the code, and 30 seconds for each update run. [15:10] - Fix "apt-get source" version detection for single-line "Package-List:" [15:10] - britney: Implement Testsuite-Triggers:; should hopefully pinpoint regressions better [15:10] netplan: [15:10] - Add support for bonds, VLAN, and wifi with wpasupplicant+networkd (#1616928) [15:10] - -Correctly handle DHCP defaults in NM (#1617051) [15:10] - Read config from /lib/netplan/ for policies shipped in packages [15:10] distro: [15:10] - initramfs: Fix rootdelay interpretation (#1615751) [15:10] - merges: iptables [15:10] misc: [15:10] - meeting: Integrate ubuntu system touch tests with the CI train [15:11] - meeting: package install in cloud init [15:11] - patch pilot shift on Friday [15:11] - Learn basics about snapd, file some bugs (#1618198, #1618206, #1618207) [15:11] END [15:11] tdaitx: thanks for helping wit -proposed! [15:11] networking, PPAs, Launchpad publisher etc. all have taken ages for two or three days now [15:11] indeed it seems the Canonical DC has some trouble [15:11] invetigation into errors when updating HWE stack on Trusty [15:11] reviewed all Xorg HWE stack bug reports [15:11] subscribed teams to Xorg HWE stack packages [15:11] updated 14.04 HWE EoL wiki page w/ references to fglrx deprecation [15:11] pitti, long overdue, trying to catch up now =) [15:11] added fglrx warning to hwe-support-status / update-manager [15:11] updated xorg-server-lts-xenial to conflict w/ fglrx [15:11] SRU verification of LP: #1617080, LP: #1617448 [15:11] Launchpad bug 1617080 in update-manager (Ubuntu Xenial) "update-manager apport package hook should gather HWE information" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1617080 [15:11] Launchpad bug 1617448 in xorg-server-lts-xenial (Ubuntu Trusty) "HWE upgrade to lts-xenial stack fails if fglrx is installed" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1617448 [15:11] uploaded livecd-rootfs SRU for X for LP: #1561250, LP: #1565985 [15:11] reviewed / approved ubuntu-archive-tools mp regarding team changes [15:11] Launchpad bug 1561250 in cloud-images "Xenial vagrant image is missing its hostname in /etc/hosts" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1561250 [15:11] Launchpad bug 1565985 in cloud-images "vagrant vb ubuntu/xenial64 cannot mount synced folders" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1565985 [15:11] ✔ done [15:12] chiluk_: ? [15:13] pass -> see email no? [15:13] ah [15:13] slangasek, out [15:13] infinity not on irc [15:13] barry is also out, no? [15:13] barry isn't around either AFAIK [15:13] barry is away too [15:13] doko =) [15:14] - gcc-6 and binutils updates [15:14] - gcc Linaro snapshot merge and build, trying to get some transitions done [15:14] - MIR's, FTBFS, cleaning update-excuses [15:14] - openjdk-9 build, forwarding bug reports [15:14] - gdb 7.12 [15:14] - llvm toolchain updates [15:14] - some python module updates [15:14] - fight with autopkg testers ... [15:14] - gave back failed builds in yakkety and yakkety-proposed [15:14] - launchpad is slooowwwww [15:14] (done) [15:14] grub: [15:14] - still working on unbreaking grub2 built with binutils 2.27 [15:14] - more testing of IPv6 PXE boot in UEFI and sync with lamont [15:14] - testing grub builds with binutils 2.26.1 [15:14] console-conf: [15:14] - tweaks for serial/VT console gettys to behave correctly [15:14] - various bug fixes for inclusion on the snap images [15:14] ubiquity: [15:14] - testing SRUs including HiDPI scaling fixes and SecureBoot UI [15:14] network-manager: [15:14] - needs more work for VPN DNS nameservers in split-tunnel mode [15:14] ubuntu-image: [15:14] - figuring out how this works and fixing up cloud-init preseeding [15:14] (done) [15:15] I get about 50 kB/s from archive.ubuntu.com (normally about 2.5 MB/s).. [15:15] actually email was from caribou, not from chiluk.... [15:15] pitti: it's not just you [15:15] short week - monday was a bank holiday [15:15] finished all the zua feature work for now, all up to date in the ppa [15:15] helping fixing adt tests in openstack things, to fix s390x regressions (in progress, some will land with b3 uploads) [15:15] gpg2 -> gpg transition [15:15] .. [15:15] wha? [15:15] oh, nvm [15:15] he meant "<-" :) [15:15] he may have meant just dropping the 2. [15:15] oh, you meant renaming [15:16] * xnox meant just dropping the 2 =) [15:16] wee [15:16] gpg is now gpg2, gpg2 is now symlink to gpg [15:16] that means I can remove some scripts here. [15:16] let's all discuss for 15 minutes which direction the arrow should be [15:16] * pitti can kill his ~/bin/gpg symlink \o/ [15:16] yeah [15:16] now the yubikey GPG magic is a first-class citizen [15:17] lp:bileto [15:17] - git support (in production but busted pending firewall fixes) [15:17] - ignore no-change rebuilds in dest archive [15:17] - ephemeral PPAs (in production but not usable yet) [15:17] (done) [15:18] robru: oh, you are trying git clones from a ProdStack instance? [15:18] pitti: git fetching and pushing, but yes [15:18] robru: (I banged my head on teh wall about that for too long and gave up) [15:18] pitti: is there some secret? [15:18] robru: I do it in scalingstack instances now [15:18] pitti: there is simply no giving up, we need this [15:18] PS is too annoyingly paranoid [15:18] robru: "- ignore no-change rebuilds in dest archive" how do you do that? [15:18] Laney has discussed something like this with IS for ages [15:19] no sil2100 either [15:20] cyphermox: we download the DSC of the latest version in trunk's changelog, and then we download the DSC of the latest version in distro, debdiff them, and filterdiff out debian/changelog. if the result is an empty file, we ignore that. if the result has nonzero size, we report the error (preventing publication), and insist the user sync this change back to [15:20] trunk and rebuild. [15:20] ah, right [15:20] ♪ where have all the developers gone? long time passing ♪ ♫ === pitti changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: AOB [15:21] pitti: robru: If you just need a whitelist of domains, you can get IS to add that for you in squid [15:22] assuming HTTP [15:22] for git://, dunno [15:22] Laney: no we specifically need fetching and pushing for git+ssh [15:22] so, any easy way to deal with a package that requires autoconf-2.13 when that autoconf generates stuff don't work on gcc6? [15:22] tdaitx: ugh, 2.*13*? [15:22] I didn't know that dinosaurs were still alive :) [15:23] yeah, the package/project has not seem an update in quite a few years [15:23] (autoconf 2.13 released in 1998 :) ) [15:23] tdaitx: remove-package ? [15:24] you tell me =) [15:25] oh dear, firefox and thunderbird use it [15:25] they didn't even exist yet when 2.13 was already obsolete.. [15:25] tdaitx: so, I'm afraid everything will be "not easy" at this point :( [15:26] does it really require 2.13? [15:26] tdaitx: best might be to not run autoconf2.13 at boot, but have a good old debian/patches/99_autotools.pathc with the pregenerated stuff [15:26] convert to something more modern :) [15:26] tdaitx: and then maybe some extra 99.1_autoconf2.13_quirks.patch to fiddle with Makefile.in to work with gcc-6 [15:26] but obviously, converting to 2.50 is best ;) [15:27] well, I can't regenerate anything there with a newer autoconf, I would have to update it [15:27] regenerate with 2.13, I mean [15:27] tdaitx: which package are we talknig about, btw? [15:27] pitti, mozart [15:27] we should at least yell at upstream about that [15:27] this is like "don't build me" [15:32] pitti, meh, I was stupid to trust the launchpad page, it says "Mozart — Content Management Framework based on JAVA.", but control file has "Mozart Programming System" [15:32] the programming system is now at mozart 2.0, 1.4 is not being used any longer [15:33] the mozart content management framework is dead, doesn't even have a project page any longer [15:34] any other business? [15:34] let's formally close this [15:34] #endmeeting === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds: Please leave swords by the door | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology [15:34] Meeting ended Thu Sep 1 15:34:34 2016 UTC. [15:34] Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2016/ubuntu-meeting.2016-09-01-15.09.moin.txt [15:36] tdaitx: and mozart has no reverse dependencies, so removal candidate [15:36] pitti, agreed [15:36] tdaitx: except that it does not actually build-depend on autoconf2.13 [15:37] pitti, it does not because that is not run during the build, it reuses the pre-generated stuff [16:11] pitti: wait, you said git clone is impossible from prodstack? I do it already in staging instance! [20:00] o/ [20:01] elacheche_anis o/ [20:01] Hey pavlushka :) [20:01] Hello elacheche_anis :) [20:02] um here!:-) [20:02] We start in a sec.. We wait to see if we have the quorum :) [20:02] hi guys [20:02] hi dipraw pavlushka [20:02] dipraw: o/ [20:02] hi kilos :-D [20:03] Hello Kilos i'm here :) [20:03] o/ [20:03] i am dipraw, from Dhaka Bangladesh [20:03] popey: o/ [20:03] hi NaSb [20:04] dipraw: hello, we start in a sec :) [20:04] o/ [20:04] okay! :-) [20:04] hello from Bangladesh NaSb zaki dipraw nawaf walrider :) [20:05] im walrider from dhaka Bangladesh [20:05] hello there :) [20:05] hi all [20:05] hi nawaf [20:05] hello again to all of u! [20:05] hello kilos :) [20:05] Ping from Gazipur,Bangladesh [20:06] mr chair are you ready? [20:06] #startmeeting [20:06] Meeting started Thu Sep 1 20:06:16 2016 UTC. The chair is iulian. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. [20:06] Available commands: action commands idea info link nick [20:06] #voters popey elacheche_anis Kilos iulian [20:06] Current voters: Kilos elacheche_anis iulian popey [20:06] #voter ahoneybun [20:06] #voters ahoneybun [20:06] Current voters: Kilos ahoneybun elacheche_anis iulian popey [20:06] heyo all [20:06] sorry about that [20:06] hi ahoneybun [20:07] hey Kilos [20:07] hello ahoneybun :) [20:07] hey pavlushka [20:07] Hello iulian :) [20:07] hey ahoneybun [20:07] lots of people today [20:07] hi* [20:07] heyo dipraw [20:07] ty for chairing iulian [20:07] Hello and welcome to the Ubuntu Membership Review Board meeting! [20:08] ty very much [20:08] happy to be here [20:08] Apparently we just have one applicant so this should be quick. [20:08] Hello pavlushka. [20:08] it's a pleasure! [20:08] okay [20:08] Hello iulian :) [20:09] pavlushka: Would you mind telling us a bit about yourself? [20:09] wait [20:09] oh sorry im slow [20:09] go ahead pavlushka [20:09] iulian: sure, I am S. M. Pavel Sayekat from Bangladesh. [20:10] my LP is https://launchpad.net/~pavelsayekat [20:10] and my wiki is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/pavelsayekat [20:10] Is there anyone here who wants to show their support for Pavel? [20:11] Yes count me in :) [20:11] Hi there NaSb. [20:11] * elacheche_anis supports pavlushka [20:11] me too [20:11] #voteforpavl [20:11] * pavlushka nods [20:11] hey iulian here i'm supporting pavlushka [20:12] * Kilos supports pavlushka [20:12] im supporting pavlushka [20:12] #voteforpavlushka [20:12] walrider: that'll not work :) [20:12] Yay! [20:12] Cool, thanks everyone. [20:12] whats the command iulian ? [20:12] i also vote for pavlushla [20:12] walrider: only iulian can use the command [20:12] he is always willing to help others, i am supporting pavlushka [20:13] oh ok [20:13] i am supporting pavlushka [20:13] pavlushka is always eager to help [20:14] and he haven't let me down till now [20:14] pavlushka: http://imgur.com/a/ElsL9 was nice to see! [20:14] flexiondotorg: ^ Ubuntu MATE in a small business in Bangladesh [20:14] pavlushka 100% dedicated and always eager to help other [20:15] * ahoneybun thinks popey is bias in his love of MATE [20:15] like to mention my irc contributions http://paste.ubuntu.com/23121519/ [20:15] lol [20:15] ahoneybun: I love all ubuntu flavours :) [20:15] ha ha ha [20:15] and http://paste.ubuntu.com/23121528/ [20:16] pavlushka: what's the next big thing for you? [20:16] thanks popey I am overwhelmed :) [20:16] What big project would you like to take on? [20:16] popey: The LoCo and its site [20:16] to revive [20:16] loco.ubuntu.com? [20:17] BD LoCo [20:17] Awesome. I watched a TV programme about Bangladesh last night, looks like a beautiful place. [20:17] Bangladesh [20:17] oh your LoCo [20:17] yes ahoneybun :) [20:18] sorry for incomplete drafting of irc logs :( [20:18] Okey dokey. Thank you very much for your answers pavlushka. [20:18] I think we are now ready to vote. [20:18] pavlushka: it's fine, most people don't provide all those irc logs, it's fun to read :) [20:19] #vote pavlushka for Ubuntu membership [20:19] Please vote on: pavlushka for Ubuntu membership [20:19] Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1/-1/+0 #channelname) [20:19] +1 Keep the good work pavlushka :) [20:19] +1 Keep the good work pavlushka :) received from elacheche_anis [20:19] +1 [20:19] +1 received from iulian [20:19] +1 always for LoCo work [20:19] +1 always for LoCo work received from ahoneybun [20:19] -1 [20:19] +1 [20:19] +1 Keep it up lad, you are doing great work [20:19] +1 Keep it up lad, you are doing great work received from Kilos [20:19] Just for the records, wxl and belkinsa voted +1 as well.. :) [20:19] +1 from NaSb [20:20] NaSb: only board members can vote :) [20:20] vote for pavlushla [20:20] +1 [20:20] +1 received from popey [20:20] #endvote [20:20] Voting ended on: pavlushka for Ubuntu membership [20:20] Votes for:5 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0 [20:20] Motion carried [20:20] only membership board can vote guys [20:20] excellent contributions pavlushla! Thank you! [20:20] +1 [20:20] and we have AudaciousTUX from Bangladesh too :) [20:20] Congrats pavlushka :) [20:20] Congratulations pavlushka and welcome aboard! [20:20] \o/ [20:20] congrats pavlushka welcome on board [20:20] sweet stuff pavlushka [20:20] Thanks to those who came to support pavlushka too :) [20:20] * pavlushka nods to all [20:20] congrats from dhaka [20:21] * pavlushka thanking all for their support :) [20:21] congratulations!!!!!!! bro!!! [20:21] That's all folks. Thanks very much for attending, especially the guys who showed their support for pavlushka! [20:21] #endmeeting === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds: Please leave swords by the door | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology [20:21] Meeting ended Thu Sep 1 20:21:19 2016 UTC. [20:21] Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2016/ubuntu-meeting.2016-09-01-20.06.moin.txt [20:21] thanks for chairing iulian and thanks board members [20:21] \o/ [20:22] nice one [20:22] yeah thanks to all! :-D [20:22] GG [20:22] Thanks all of you Board members :) [20:23] we are here to serve [20:23] thank you everyone for being here :) [20:23] and normally give applicants a hard time [20:23] lol @ Kilos [20:23] missing belkinsa [20:23] yip [20:24] and yeah i guess i didn't mix up this time!!! [20:24] dipraw: really? [20:24] did i? [20:24] :/ [20:24] dipraw: ok, you did good :)