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tsimonq2acheronuk: should I finish the Qt 5.7 migration or purge the packages?03:35
tsimonq2acheronuk: your choice I guess, as everyone else as gone at a conference03:35
tsimonq2acheronuk: I can go either way\03:35
IrcsomeBot<Valoriez> Berlin will chime in soon, BTW. /me is eating breakfast. Talked with Phil till like 2am06:17
acheronuktsimonq2: No one has said no, so I guess you carry on06:40
IrcsomeBot<Valoriez> @tsimonq2 are you skipping school?08:32
* acheronuk waves to valorie & qtcon08:33
IrcsomeBot<Valoriez> /me wishes that @acheronuk was here08:40
IrcsomeBot<Valoriez> All of y'all, actually08:41
IrcsomeBot<yofel> @acheronuk you might want to join @QtCon to get some impressions, people are posting pictures08:42
acheronukyofel: I'm on there. :)08:45
IrcsomeBot<yofel> :D08:46
acheronukon IRC anyway....08:46
IrcsomeBot<yofel> oh, then you're missing out on the pictures, the telegram channel should be open08:46
yofelah, IRC is linking the pics08:47
acheronukyofel: indeed it is <rohangarg> (Photo, 1280x720) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/aT0nvAWT/file_264.jpg08:47
acheronukbut I've joined on telegram as well now so can see them inline08:48
marthi, is there any plans to get qt5.7 into xenial?09:10
acheronukmart: testing some backports with Qt 5.6, but not sure if 5.7 with ever make it for those. Even plasma 5.8 LTS is only meant to require Qt 5.6. Backporting Qt in a ppa is not as simple for kubuntu as it might be say for Neon, as we have take additional care that it doesn't break the intstallability or working of non KDE packages in the main archive  09:42
BluesKajHiyas all11:22
martacheronuk: so I have to use unity or something else, because we dont see any qt 5.7 any time soon? IMO, working DE is way more important than some apps that might break.11:29
* acheronuk wonders if clivejo made it to Berlin12:42
IrcsomeBot<Valoriez> yes, he made it and is around somewhere here in Qtcon. He couldn't make his laptop fit into his luggage though12:54
IrcsomeBot<Valoriez> @mart, we have to consider Ubuntu freezes and such. We do what we can!12:56
acheronukvalorie: yes I heard about the laptop. I don't have a proper bag for my 17" laptop either, so will have to bear than in mind...13:04
* mamarley kicks LP.13:49
* acheronuk shoots LP with a TASER™13:51
* yofel throws errors at appmenu-qt5 and upload permissions and people that do weird things13:52
IrcsomeBot<Clifford> Who is doing weird things?13:53
IrcsomeBot<Clifford> I've not touched anything!13:53
yofelpeople shipping scripts that override the used QPA plugin by having packages set environment variables when installed13:54
acheronukhttps://git.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/+git/plasma-integration/log/?h=kubuntu_yakkety_archive13:55
yofelwell, I'll grab mgraesslin when I see him again and ask him how that's supposed to be done properly13:56
* mamarley shoots LP with the .50 BMG.13:57
yofelconsidering lp 1307619 is somewhat annoying many people13:57
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1307619 in appmenu-qt5 (Ubuntu) "All Qt5 applications' menu bar is missing at non-Unity DEs after appmenu-qt5 installed" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/130761913:57
yofelthough in plasma it breaks far more than just the menu13:57
acheronukah. I banned appmenu-qt5 from my systems ages ago, as it had a weird bug causing some qt apps not to pick up the system theme and colour scheme14:00
acheronukso if it impacts plasma, I've not noticed14:01
BluesKajit's not installed by default here14:02
BluesKajappmenu-qt5 that is14:03
yofelright, it's an issue with people installing multiple desktops14:04
acheronukBluesKaj: I usually have a couple of other DE's installed as fallback, and I think one of them trys to install it at least14:04
acheronuklol ^^ as yofel says14:04
BluesKajgnome ?14:04
yofelunity mostly I think14:05
yofelnot something you really should do, but you can technically do it, so people do14:05
acheronukBluesKaj: can't recall to be honest. I just made a dummy package with a silly high and put it in a local apt archive 14:06
acheronuk*high version14:06
acheronukhmmm. I try to keep as much unity off the PC as possible, so may have been something else as well14:07
BluesKajunity isn't my cuppa tea 14:08
acheronukyofel: a new version of apt is causing probs for the KCI slaves. http://paste.ubuntu.com/23124265/14:49
yofelacheronuk: 14:29:08 Unpacking apt (1.3~rc3ubuntu2) over (1.3~rc2ubuntu3) ...15:40
yofelwait what?15:40
yofeloh15:40
IrcsomeBot<Clifford> Where is you Mr yofel15:48
yofeldownstairs15:49
acheronukis that a simple diff in the apt config, or something more on those failing slaves?15:51
acheronukno hurry anyway. enjoy qtcon etc :)15:52
acheronukvalorie is already asking where/when the party is :P15:53
IrcsomeBot<Valoriez> Ha, I came back to my room to take a nap15:59
geniiIf i see for instance <IrcsomeBot> <somename> and then use like: somename: message here   ...does IrcsomeBot relay that to the specific name?16:02
IrcsomeBot<Valoriez> If you put @name, like @genii16:08
genii@Valoriez Like so?16:10
acheronuktry mine16:11
geniiacheronuk: Is your IrcsomeBot name same as this one? ( I don't see it in my backscroll anywhere)16:12
genii@acheronuk <slides a coffee over>16:12
IrcsomeBot<acheronuk> Yes. Tags it as @acheron, butnot much apart from that16:13
acheronuk*acheronuk I mean16:14
yofelwait, why does the apt update work on master but fail on the other two o.O16:15
acheronukyofel: sorry. should have said it was doing that straight away16:16
yofelnp, just makes it more weird..16:17
yofelhm, I think overlayfs might be screwing us over17:04
yofel# mv /usr/share/bug/apt /usr/share/bug/apt.17:06
yofel# mv /usr/share/bug/apt. /usr/share/bug/apt17:06
yofeland it works...17:06
acheronukgood :)17:13
acheronukthat it works I mean17:14
yofelwell, it doesn't17:17
yofelthat's just a workaround I'm doing in a shell17:18
yofelacheronuk: https://github.com/docker/docker/issues/2540917:21
yofelmaybe I should try using another storage driver. Let me read up a bit17:22
yofelheh, master uses devicemapper already, hence it worked there ^^17:28
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> @Valoriez no...?17:30
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> @Valoriez why would you ask that?17:30
acheronukyofel: so a different method for linking the filesystems?17:40
yofelyes17:41
* acheronuk added docker etc to list of things to read up on17:41
yofelok, devicemapper obviously doesn't work -.-18:00
yofellets try aufs18:00
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> btrfs doesn't like aufs18:01
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> I learned the hard way.18:01
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> :P18:01
yofelbtrfs doesn't like many things, like aufs, swapfiles, excessive subvolumes, ...18:03
yofelgreat, it STILL doesn't work18:05
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> No I just have a feeling that btrfs hates yofel :P18:06
yofeltsimonq2: I'm not even using btrfs here, just aufs used by docker, inside lxd, running in LVM on a cloud server18:07
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> Lunch is over! o/18:07
IrcsomeBot<acheronuk> Later then18:07
yofelok, my head is fried for today. KCI offline for the time being19:22
acheronukok. no problem. enjoy whatever is going on in Berlin :)19:25
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> Hey :)20:08
IrcsomeBot<Clifford> (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/Cf6znsm1/file_269.jpg20:13
IrcsomeBot<acheronuk> Nice 🍺🍺20:16
soee_:)20:21
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> @Clifford, Is that for me? I hear aged achohlic beverages taste good, save it for 7 years. :P20:22
IrcsomeBot<Clifford> Nomm20:23
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> So save some for me. :P20:23
IrcsomeBot<Clifford> Noooo20:25
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> Lol20:25
IrcsomeBot<Valoriez> @Simon - just kidding, my time-sense is rather wrecked20:38
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> Oh lol OK :)20:40
tsimonq2ATTENTION! HEY! EVERYONE! Whoever is going to Akademy needs to find Daniel Holbach and give him a hug for me. :P20:48
IrcsomeBot<Valoriez> Woah. Since when does dholbach attend akademy!? I will gladly give him a thousand hugs if he is here21:37
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> @Valoriez, He's doing a Snappy thing. Check his blog.21:39
IrcsomeBot<Valoriez> Nice21:43
IrcsomeBot<Valoriez> I've not seen him today or tonight21:44
IrcsomeBot<Clifford> He was there!21:56
IrcsomeBot<Valoriez> he perhaps left before the madness of the stacks of extra drink tickets occurred22:04
IrcsomeBot<Valoriez> Daniel is sometimes annoyingly level-headed and wise22:04
mhall119valorie: I think Daniel is there for Akademy, but not all of QtCon22:08
IrcsomeBot<Clifford> He was plying Scarlett with refreshments22:10
IrcsomeBot<ahoneybun> Getting her to work on snaps note lol22:10
IrcsomeBot<ahoneybun> *more22:10
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> @Valoriez, Annoyingly? :O22:10
IrcsomeBot<ahoneybun> You think everyone is good @tsimonq222:11
IrcsomeBot<ahoneybun> Still young lol22:11
IrcsomeBot<Valoriez> /me might be slightly inebriated22:11
IrcsomeBot<Clifford> Everyone is very good22:11
IrcsomeBot<Clifford> Happy birthday KDWeee22:12
IrcsomeBot<ahoneybun> XD22:13
IrcsomeBot<Clifford> Valorie let's go to second floor for Romainian refreshments22:13
IrcsomeBot<ahoneybun> I only got to see Scarlet like that last time lol22:13
IrcsomeBot<ahoneybun> Video chat!22:13
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> @Clifford, Daniel? :O22:14
IrcsomeBot<Clifford> Nah she was plying herself22:14
IrcsomeBot<ahoneybun> Lol22:14
IrcsomeBot<Clifford> Night cap22:14
IrcsomeBot<Clifford> Poor thing been through the wars22:15
IrcsomeBot<acheronuk> (Sticker, 482x512) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/Nlp0N7vg/file_270.webp22:15
IrcsomeBot<Valoriez> /me need NO more liquor22:15
IrcsomeBot<Valoriez> especially romanian liquor!22:16
IrcsomeBot<ahoneybun> I want to video chat22:16
IrcsomeBot<Valoriez> /me locks the door22:16
IrcsomeBot<ahoneybun> Everyone at once would be easy lol22:16
IrcsomeBot<acheronuk> If you're not a bit hammered on first night of a conference,  you're not doing it properly22:17
IrcsomeBot<Valoriez> that was last night, LOL22:18
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> Watch, I'll get a chance to go to a conference one day, and everybody will be drunk but me :P22:18
IrcsomeBot<Clifford> Has two bottles to knock out the next noisy German slamming the door22:18
IrcsomeBot<ahoneybun> You'll be our Jose22:20
IrcsomeBot<ahoneybun> The one who can't drink lol22:20
IrcsomeBot<ahoneybun> In the states anyway22:20
IrcsomeBot<Valoriez> I find it more enjoyable to get a bit giddy, and quit at that point -- at least the next morning I think goodness.22:21
IrcsomeBot<Clifford> Nah that's you Aaron :p22:21
IrcsomeBot<Valoriez> being drunk is only fun for a bit, then you PAY22:21
IrcsomeBot<Clifford> Yup yup22:21
IrcsomeBot<Valoriez> not to discount that fun.....22:22
IrcsomeBot<Clifford> When people take photos of your with your dick bow down22:22
IrcsomeBot<Valoriez> um22:22
IrcsomeBot<Clifford> With your dicky bow22:22
IrcsomeBot<acheronuk> Thank god for that!22:23
IrcsomeBot<Valoriez> lol22:23
IrcsomeBot<Clifford> I dunno who should be upset!22:24
IrcsomeBot<acheronuk> Predictive text is dangerous after a few beers22:24
IrcsomeBot<Clifford> Simon asked if I was in the left of middle of chicken heads selfie22:24
IrcsomeBot<Clifford> Or the22:25
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> @ahoneybun, And the first conference I go to, Jose has to be there. I want to drink root beer with him. :P22:26
IrcsomeBot<ahoneybun> I can drink22:26
IrcsomeBot<acheronuk> Glad this channel is logged :P22:26
IrcsomeBot<ahoneybun> Both kind of annoying22:26
IrcsomeBot<Clifford> Not according to chicken head!22:27
IrcsomeBot<ahoneybun> Tell him I don't drink hard stuff22:27
joseI can drink in EU22:28
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> But most likely my first conference will be in the US... :P22:28
IrcsomeBot<ahoneybun> (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/mD1FMfpk/file_271.webp22:28
IrcsomeBot<acheronuk> PMSL22:29
IrcsomeBot<Clifford> We need a chicken head song22:30

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