[03:35] <tsimonq2> acheronuk: should I finish the Qt 5.7 migration or purge the packages?
[03:35] <tsimonq2> acheronuk: your choice I guess, as everyone else as gone at a conference
[03:35] <tsimonq2> acheronuk: I can go either way\
 Berlin will chime in soon, BTW. /me is eating breakfast. Talked with Phil till like 2am
[06:40] <acheronuk> tsimonq2: No one has said no, so I guess you carry on
 @tsimonq2 are you skipping school?
[08:33]  * acheronuk waves to valorie & qtcon
 /me wishes that @acheronuk was here
 All of y'all, actually
 @acheronuk you might want to join @QtCon to get some impressions, people are posting pictures
[08:45] <acheronuk> yofel: I'm on there. :)
 :D
[08:46] <acheronuk> on IRC anyway....
 oh, then you're missing out on the pictures, the telegram channel should be open
[08:47] <yofel> ah, IRC is linking the pics
[08:47] <acheronuk> yofel: indeed it is <rohangarg> (Photo, 1280x720) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/aT0nvAWT/file_264.jpg
[08:48] <acheronuk> but I've joined on telegram as well now so can see them inline
[09:10] <mart> hi, is there any plans to get qt5.7 into xenial?
[09:42] <acheronuk> mart: testing some backports with Qt 5.6, but not sure if 5.7 with ever make it for those. Even plasma 5.8 LTS is only meant to require Qt 5.6. Backporting Qt in a ppa is not as simple for kubuntu as it might be say for Neon, as we have take additional care that it doesn't break the intstallability or working of non KDE packages in the main archive  
[11:22] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:29] <mart> acheronuk: so I have to use unity or something else, because we dont see any qt 5.7 any time soon? IMO, working DE is way more important than some apps that might break.
[12:42]  * acheronuk wonders if clivejo made it to Berlin
 yes, he made it and is around somewhere here in Qtcon. He couldn't make his laptop fit into his luggage though
 @mart, we have to consider Ubuntu freezes and such. We do what we can!
[13:04] <acheronuk> valorie: yes I heard about the laptop. I don't have a proper bag for my 17" laptop either, so will have to bear than in mind...
[13:49]  * mamarley kicks LP.
[13:51]  * acheronuk shoots LP with a TASER™
[13:52]  * yofel throws errors at appmenu-qt5 and upload permissions and people that do weird things
 Who is doing weird things?
 I've not touched anything!
[13:54] <yofel> people shipping scripts that override the used QPA plugin by having packages set environment variables when installed
[13:55] <acheronuk> https://git.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/+git/plasma-integration/log/?h=kubuntu_yakkety_archive
[13:56] <yofel> well, I'll grab mgraesslin when I see him again and ask him how that's supposed to be done properly
[13:57]  * mamarley shoots LP with the .50 BMG.
[13:57] <yofel> considering lp 1307619 is somewhat annoying many people
[13:57] <yofel> though in plasma it breaks far more than just the menu
[14:00] <acheronuk> ah. I banned appmenu-qt5 from my systems ages ago, as it had a weird bug causing some qt apps not to pick up the system theme and colour scheme
[14:01] <acheronuk> so if it impacts plasma, I've not noticed
[14:02] <BluesKaj> it's not installed by default here
[14:03] <BluesKaj> appmenu-qt5 that is
[14:04] <yofel> right, it's an issue with people installing multiple desktops
[14:04] <acheronuk> BluesKaj: I usually have a couple of other DE's installed as fallback, and I think one of them trys to install it at least
[14:04] <acheronuk> lol ^^ as yofel says
[14:04] <BluesKaj> gnome ?
[14:05] <yofel> unity mostly I think
[14:05] <yofel> not something you really should do, but you can technically do it, so people do
[14:06] <acheronuk> BluesKaj: can't recall to be honest. I just made a dummy package with a silly high and put it in a local apt archive 
[14:06] <acheronuk> *high version
[14:07] <acheronuk> hmmm. I try to keep as much unity off the PC as possible, so may have been something else as well
[14:08] <BluesKaj> unity isn't my cuppa tea 
[14:49] <acheronuk> yofel: a new version of apt is causing probs for the KCI slaves. http://paste.ubuntu.com/23124265/
[15:40] <yofel> acheronuk: 14:29:08 Unpacking apt (1.3~rc3ubuntu2) over (1.3~rc2ubuntu3) ...
[15:40] <yofel> wait what?
[15:40] <yofel> oh
 Where is you Mr yofel
[15:49] <yofel> downstairs
[15:51] <acheronuk> is that a simple diff in the apt config, or something more on those failing slaves?
[15:52] <acheronuk> no hurry anyway. enjoy qtcon etc :)
[15:53] <acheronuk> valorie is already asking where/when the party is :P
 Ha, I came back to my room to take a nap
[16:02] <genii> If i see for instance <IrcsomeBot> <somename> and then use like: somename: message here   ...does IrcsomeBot relay that to the specific name?
 If you put @name, like @genii
[16:10] <genii> @Valoriez Like so?
[16:11] <acheronuk> try mine
[16:12] <genii> acheronuk: Is your IrcsomeBot name same as this one? ( I don't see it in my backscroll anywhere)
[16:12] <genii> @acheronuk <slides a coffee over>
 Yes. Tags it as @acheron, butnot much apart from that
[16:14] <acheronuk> *acheronuk I mean
[16:15] <yofel> wait, why does the apt update work on master but fail on the other two o.O
[16:16] <acheronuk> yofel: sorry. should have said it was doing that straight away
[16:17] <yofel> np, just makes it more weird..
[17:04] <yofel> hm, I think overlayfs might be screwing us over
[17:06] <yofel> # mv /usr/share/bug/apt /usr/share/bug/apt.
[17:06] <yofel> # mv /usr/share/bug/apt. /usr/share/bug/apt
[17:06] <yofel> and it works...
[17:13] <acheronuk> good :)
[17:14] <acheronuk> that it works I mean
[17:17] <yofel> well, it doesn't
[17:18] <yofel> that's just a workaround I'm doing in a shell
[17:21] <yofel> acheronuk: https://github.com/docker/docker/issues/25409
[17:22] <yofel> maybe I should try using another storage driver. Let me read up a bit
[17:28] <yofel> heh, master uses devicemapper already, hence it worked there ^^
 @Valoriez no...?
 @Valoriez why would you ask that?
[17:40] <acheronuk> yofel: so a different method for linking the filesystems?
[17:41] <yofel> yes
[17:41]  * acheronuk added docker etc to list of things to read up on
[18:00] <yofel> ok, devicemapper obviously doesn't work -.-
[18:00] <yofel> lets try aufs
 btrfs doesn't like aufs
 I learned the hard way.
 :P
[18:03] <yofel> btrfs doesn't like many things, like aufs, swapfiles, excessive subvolumes, ...
[18:05] <yofel> great, it STILL doesn't work
 No I just have a feeling that btrfs hates yofel :P
[18:07] <yofel> tsimonq2: I'm not even using btrfs here, just aufs used by docker, inside lxd, running in LVM on a cloud server
 Lunch is over! o/
 Later then
[19:22] <yofel> ok, my head is fried for today. KCI offline for the time being
[19:25] <acheronuk> ok. no problem. enjoy whatever is going on in Berlin :)
 Hey :)
 (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/Cf6znsm1/file_269.jpg
 Nice 🍺🍺
[20:21] <soee_> :)
 @Clifford, Is that for me? I hear aged achohlic beverages taste good, save it for 7 years. :P
 Nomm
 So save some for me. :P
 Noooo
 Lol
 @Simon - just kidding, my time-sense is rather wrecked
 Oh lol OK :)
[20:48] <tsimonq2> ATTENTION! HEY! EVERYONE! Whoever is going to Akademy needs to find Daniel Holbach and give him a hug for me. :P
 Woah. Since when does dholbach attend akademy!? I will gladly give him a thousand hugs if he is here
 @Valoriez, He's doing a Snappy thing. Check his blog.
 Nice
 I've not seen him today or tonight
 He was there!
 he perhaps left before the madness of the stacks of extra drink tickets occurred
 Daniel is sometimes annoyingly level-headed and wise
[22:08] <mhall119> valorie: I think Daniel is there for Akademy, but not all of QtCon
 He was plying Scarlett with refreshments
 Getting her to work on snaps note lol
 *more
 @Valoriez, Annoyingly? :O
 You think everyone is good @tsimonq2
 Still young lol
 /me might be slightly inebriated
 Everyone is very good
 Happy birthday KDWeee
 XD
 Valorie let's go to second floor for Romainian refreshments
 I only got to see Scarlet like that last time lol
 Video chat!
 @Clifford, Daniel? :O
 Nah she was plying herself
 Lol
 Night cap
 Poor thing been through the wars
 (Sticker, 482x512) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/Nlp0N7vg/file_270.webp
 /me need NO more liquor
 especially romanian liquor!
 I want to video chat
 /me locks the door
 Everyone at once would be easy lol
 If you're not a bit hammered on first night of a conference,  you're not doing it properly
 that was last night, LOL
 Watch, I'll get a chance to go to a conference one day, and everybody will be drunk but me :P
 Has two bottles to knock out the next noisy German slamming the door
 You'll be our Jose
 The one who can't drink lol
 In the states anyway
 I find it more enjoyable to get a bit giddy, and quit at that point -- at least the next morning I think goodness.
 Nah that's you Aaron :p
 being drunk is only fun for a bit, then you PAY
 Yup yup
 not to discount that fun.....
 When people take photos of your with your dick bow down
 um
 With your dicky bow
 Thank god for that!
 lol
 I dunno who should be upset!
 Predictive text is dangerous after a few beers
 Simon asked if I was in the left of middle of chicken heads selfie
 Or the
 @ahoneybun, And the first conference I go to, Jose has to be there. I want to drink root beer with him. :P
 I can drink
 Glad this channel is logged :P
 Both kind of annoying
 Not according to chicken head!
 Tell him I don't drink hard stuff
[22:28] <jose> I can drink in EU
 But most likely my first conference will be in the US... :P
 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/mD1FMfpk/file_271.webp
 PMSL
 We need a chicken head song