[00:32] <daftykins> http://www.theverge.com/2016/9/1/12759912/samsung-galaxy-note-7-recall
[00:32] <daftykins> whoops
[00:41] <zmoylan-pi> a hot little number
[00:43] <daftykins> :D
[00:44] <daftykins> got another digitiser on the way for £9 :) returning that one with any luck, too!
[00:57] <penguin42> daftykins: Oops, battiers
[00:59] <daftykins> and they wonder why 'fuel cells' never caught on...
[01:02] <penguin42> oh I think that was because they didn't really make them chargable; no one wants to have to go and buy power like you bought printer ink
[01:02] <daftykins> hmm, could be - i really do hope there's a battery breakthrough soon, though 12-15 hours from my current Dell XPS13 laptop is quite nice
[01:28] <zmoylan-pi> that won't work, as soon as they make better battery they'll write bloatier software on faster processors to suck it dry
[01:28] <daftykins> :>
[01:29] <daftykins> https://www.dropbox.com/s/ahwp8ao36ft3r3i/theprince.png?dl=0
[01:29] <daftykins> Linux ref
[02:27] <zmoylan-pi> well fuel cells need platinum and are stupidly expensive... so there's that...
[02:28] <daftykins> :>
[02:28] <daftykins> i best go do that sleep thing
[02:35] <zmoylan-pi> o/
[04:38] <elliot_> gdf
[05:16] <MooDoo> Morning all
[05:18] <knightwise> mornig MooDoo
[06:19] <diddledan_> morning
[08:06] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[08:12] <MooDoo> morning brobostigon
[08:12] <brobostigon> morning MooDoo
[08:13] <MooDoo> are you well brobostigon ?
[08:18] <brobostigon> MooDoo: about average, and you?
[08:20] <MooDoo> brobostigon: yeah i'm ok, ready for the weekend.
[08:21] <brobostigon> :)
[08:43] <diddledan_> that spacex rocket that blew-up yesterday. it seems it wasn't even firing the engine at the time it exploded...
[08:44] <diddledan_> https://techcrunch.com/2016/09/01/here-what-we-know-about-the-spacex-explosion/?ncid=rss&cps=gravity_1462_7731419694259937243
[08:48] <SuperEngineer> ...and it seems someone forgot the "no smoking" signs arounfd the fuel pipes
[08:50] <diddledan_> I hope they can get back in the game quickly. it would be a shame for them to be grounded for another 6-12 months
[08:50] <foobarry> what's the point of it all?
[08:50] <foobarry> to be a poor man's NASA?
[08:51] <diddledan_> foobarry: in this case, connecting africa to the internet
[08:51] <diddledan_> NASA don't want to launch rockets. they want to pay someone to do it
[08:51] <foobarry> oh
[08:52] <SuperEngineer> and for someone else to have to say, "Elon, if you wanted me to stop welding that launch tower..."
[08:52] <diddledan_> heck there's even murmurings of selling their stake in the ISS to a commercial enterprise
[08:53] <SuperEngineer> Soon to be known as the Amazon Space Station [the ASS]??
[08:53] <diddledan_> haha
[08:54] <foobarry> wait till the saudis want to do space
[08:54] <diddledan_> china might buy it an call it the People's Independent Space Station
[08:55] <diddledan_> and then if they sell off parts you can buy a piece of PISS
[08:58] <SuperEngineer> Musk International Space Station?...
[08:58] <SuperEngineer> not gonna do the Korean one!
[09:00] <diddledan_> they'd probably call it something like "The Imperial Space Station of the People's Republic of Democratic Korea"
[09:01] <diddledan_> you know you're in for trouble when you need to visit a place that insists on telling you they're democratic
[09:02] <SuperEngineer> "We ARE democratic - all of our glourious voters said so [then we returned their children]"
[09:27] <foobarry> is there a nice way to tidy firefox profile?
[09:27] <foobarry> my firefox is taking ages
[09:35] <popey> yes
[09:35] <popey> hoover the sqlite db
[09:36] <popey> sorry, vacuum is the right term
[09:36] <popey> well known issue
[09:36] <diddledan_> o_O
[09:36] <diddledan_> oh firefox
[09:37]  * diddledan_ hoovers
[09:46] <foobarry> i clicked "refresh firefox"
[09:47] <foobarry> all my plugins removed..oh well
[09:47] <foobarry> needed a nudge to get off adblock plus and onto ublock
[09:50] <foobarry> https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/refresh-firefox-reset-add-ons-and-settings
[09:51] <foobarry> so ...flash. does BBC offer anything besides it?
[09:56] <popey> not really
[10:03] <foobarry> http://www.bbc.co.uk/html5 seems to be missing information
[10:04] <foobarry> ah ah, iplayer works, bbc news site does not
[10:05] <popey> yeah, iplayer moved to html5 but the news stuff all still uses flash or real player if you find old pages :)
[10:15]  * foobarry tries going flash-free
[11:22] <knightwise> Friends don't let friends use flash
[11:22] <Seeker`> real player?
[11:22]  * Seeker` shudders
[11:22] <knightwise> Seeker`: how bout Bonzi Buddy
[11:23] <knightwise> Hmm.. bit miffed at my install of elementary on my Xps13. Smells like the battery life isnt as good when using plain Ubuntu
[11:23] <awilkins> The thing that always annoys me is Channel 4 player (and maybe other tv catchup widgets) that still use a build of flash that needs HAL to do the DRM
[11:24] <awilkins> :-(
[11:24] <awilkins> You get an endless buffering circle on Linux, even in Evil Chrome.
[11:30] <diddledan_> this is a good video: https://www.ted.com/talks/adam_savage_my_love_letter_to_cosplay
[11:34] <foobarry> knightwise: loki or freya?
[11:35] <foobarry> i installed powertop and turned off a bunch of stuff
[11:35] <foobarry> whats the battery difference?
[11:35] <foobarry> awilkins: also the millions of adverts
[11:36] <foobarry> best thing i did was buy an xbox360 for £25
[11:36] <foobarry> i use it for plex, iplayer and amazon video
[11:36] <foobarry> much better than chromecast
[11:38] <zmoylan-pi> which is now builtin to chrome browser...
[11:52] <foobarry> iplayer and chromecast are not playing well
[11:52] <foobarry> on my adnroid devices
[11:52] <foobarry> there is a known bug for months now
[12:12] <Safiyyah> hi, guys thought I should let you know my dodgy touchpad was resolved by adding the code on the link daftykins gave to me
[12:13] <Safiyyah> diddledan, I am relieved
[12:13] <Safiyyah> I wanted to ask if the ctrl+alf+f6 is that what you do if the system freezes in general?
[12:20] <awilkins> ctrl-alt-f6 just directs it to switch to tty6
[12:21] <awilkins> Useful if Xorg is frozen, but not if the rest of the system is
[12:24] <Safiyyah> ah
[12:25] <Safiyyah> popey, I need to ask something about the xorg.conf file that you made me.
[12:25] <Safiyyah> in the file you set the resolution to 1368*768 , is there a reason why daftykins said I have to make the monitor sit at 1360*768?
[12:26] <Safiyyah> secondly, I have gone back to xubuntu on the desktop, before anyone here from last night decides to shoot me.
[12:30] <diddledan_> neither of those resolutions are valid VGA spec. the correct is 1366x768
[12:32] <popey> Safiyyah: would need to look back in the logs, I don't recall
[12:32] <popey> i expect it was some problem which required the resolution to divide by 8
[12:41] <Safiyyah> okay because when I install xubuntu, after I put the xorg.conf, all graphics are good
[12:41] <Safiyyah> but the resolution is still 1368*768
[12:41] <Safiyyah> i can pastebin the xorg.conf file give me a sec
[12:43] <diddledan_> so apparently cisco certification means diddly squat: http://wordpress.tv/2016/07/29/julien-melissas-how-internet-works/ <-- skip to about 4 minutes from the end for the Q/A where he indicates that he actually knows nothing about IP
[12:43] <Safiyyah> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23132956/
[12:43] <acheronuk> ^^^"The Paste you are looking for does not currently exist."
[12:43] <Safiyyah> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23123956/
[12:44] <Safiyyah> sorry
[12:45] <diddledan_> something along the lines of "the reason IPv4 isn't exhausted yet when there's 7.1 meeleon devices on the internet is because you only have an ip at the router, so like your phone goes via a statellite to verizon and the router is there so all the phones on verizon only have one IP and the statellite and the stuff inbetween are magic"
[12:47] <Safiyyah> popey the reason am asking is because I loaded xubuntu 16.04 ,  it works happily and am wondering is ubuntu mate was also happy, but needed a bit of fiddling with the desktop appearance. I am new to mate so I hadn't played around yet. But I know xubuntu fairly well
[12:47] <diddledan_> another great soundbite from those 4 minutes is "the world wide web is an example of an internet, but all out devices in this room are an internet that isn't the internet"
[12:48] <Safiyyah> and I just remembered not all desktop appearances suited my system
[12:48] <diddledan_> seriously, cisco certs must be naff!
[12:48] <zmoylan-pi> they're a pricier msce cert :-P
[12:49] <diddledan_> he didn't know that hexidecimal stops at F
[12:49] <diddledan_> "zero to nine and then a to z"
[12:51] <zmoylan-pi> he's management... i worry when they know stuff about tech at this stage... :-)
[12:51] <zmoylan-pi> they get 'ideas'
[13:15] <diddledan_> oh god, ideas?! lock those managers away!
[14:12] <diddledan_> what the frak? https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B01J77OKDE/ref=wtls_list_ovl_mor?fullSynopsis=1
[14:13] <Safiyyah> i need to ask about tv screens vs monitors
[14:15] <Safiyyah> i even saw something called a gaming monitor
[14:17] <Safiyyah> the 32 inches have just HDMI and pci ports no dvi
[14:17] <Safiyyah> the gaming monitors have pc and hdmi ports only
[14:17] <Safiyyah> and the pc monitors have all 3
[14:18] <Safiyyah> please explain what i need to be looking out for, I have been told that making a tv a monitor is always going to be problematic
[14:22] <foobarry> something to do with response time
[14:22] <foobarry> some games might be blurry
[14:22] <foobarry> or something like that.
[14:22] <foobarry> read the amazon reviews
[14:24] <acheronuk> y
[14:25] <acheronuk> yes, or so I've been *told* by 'gamers'
[14:35] <Safiyyah> if my tv monitor (currently my desktop monitor) is having issues, is moving on to another TV screen okay?
[14:36] <Safiyyah> especially since they do not come with dvi ports, just hdmi and vga
[15:14] <knightwise> Afternoon peepz
[15:15] <popey> yo
[15:15] <foobarry> knightwise: think i was asking u something this morning
[15:15] <foobarry> or yesetreday
[15:15] <foobarry> hmm
[15:16] <foobarry> lunchtime lol. loki or freya?
[15:18] <knightwise> foobarry: erm ..  Freya I think
[15:18] <foobarry> powertop helped me
[15:18] <foobarry> my fan was running i think.
[15:18] <foobarry> haven't heard it since
[15:18] <knightwise> aha , i'll give it a look.
[15:19] <knightwise> And i have to fix the "disappearing mouse after suspend" issue too
[15:19] <foobarry> ah thats loki
[15:19] <knightwise> aside from that its running like a charm (and SOOO pretty)
[15:19] <foobarry> mine is fixed now
[15:19] <knightwise> thats odd ,i think i downloded the freya issue
[15:19] <knightwise> brb , lunchiez
[15:19] <foobarry> apt-get upgrade
[15:19] <foobarry> if you haven't updated for a week
[15:20] <popey> s/upgrade/dist-upgrade/
[15:20] <popey> s/apt-get/apt/ :)
[15:20] <foobarry> in the meantime ctrl-alt-f6 and f7 will return the pointer. but updating packages fixed it
[15:20] <foobarry> it was intel driver realted
[15:35] <knightwise> foobarry: thanx :)
[15:35] <knightwise> popey: A dist upgrade to loki ?
[15:35] <foobarry> he was correcting my shorthand
[15:36] <foobarry> bfor updating your packages if you are on loki
[15:36] <knightwise> not on loki , still freya
[15:36] <knightwise> assume loki no "ready" yet ?
[15:37] <knightwise> foobarry: you also experiencing the "flickering" when running apps (mostly chrome) in a maximised window ?
[15:38] <foobarry> i am running freya on lots of things
[15:38] <foobarry> loki on my laptop
[15:39] <foobarry> no probs
[15:39] <foobarry> no flicker
[15:39] <foobarry> intel graphics
[15:39] <knightwise> so would you do a dist-upgrade ?
[15:40] <knightwise> they suggest a clean install
[15:42] <Safiyyah> loki?
[15:42] <knightwise> yep
[15:42] <Safiyyah> what is that?
[15:42] <knightwise> new version of Elementary OS
[15:43] <Safiyyah> just letting you know I had a flicker on ubuntu mate yesterday
[15:43] <Safiyyah> full screen or not
[15:44] <knightwise> Safiyyah: what graphics card do you have  ?
[15:48] <daftykins> *yawn*
[15:49] <daftykins> Safiyyah: oh so your custom xorg.conf always did say 1368, funky - i just assumed it was a 1360 deal - nevermind. Just enjoy it :P
[15:53] <diddledan_> OMG halt and catch fire season three has started!!
[15:54] <knightwise> diddledan_: just watched the pilot yesterday
[15:54] <knightwise> Me likes it
[15:54] <knightwise> wife does not
[15:54] <knightwise> too nerdy for her taste she says
[15:54] <diddledan_> daftykins: the 768 horizontal for 16:9 is 1366
[15:54] <knightwise> i cant believe anything is too nerdy for her .. she married ME !
[15:54] <diddledan_> or am I wrong?
[15:55] <diddledan_> knightwise: she sounds like an awesome woman :-)
[15:55] <daftykins> you are correct but *some* TVs see another resolution which isn't in spec
[15:55] <diddledan_> bah
[15:55] <daftykins> not see, but run at, even
[15:55] <diddledan_> silly teevee
[15:56] <daftykins> Safiyyah: so the reason 1368 is available is from the xorg.conf modeline so everything is fine
[15:56] <diddledan_> knightwise: bingewatch all of them, they are so fun
[15:56] <Safiyyah> ~@
[15:56] <diddledan_> knightwise: though your missus might take offence at being sidelined :-p
[15:57]  * diddledan_ wanders-off to turn-on the oven for friday pizza
[15:57] <knightwise> She has been watching ALL BH90201 eps without me
[15:57] <diddledan_> oh it's only 5pm?!
[15:57] <diddledan_> bah
[15:57] <diddledan_> I thought it was later than that
[15:57] <knightwise> me is selfemployed
[15:58] <knightwise> Workisneverover
[15:58] <daftykins> ^ +1
[15:58] <daftykins> clients found out i was leaving so have been trying to get me to do things the day before
[15:58] <daftykins> hahahaha good luck!
[15:58] <daftykins> leaving the island for holidays i mean
[16:09] <diddledan_> daftykins: they'll find out where you're going and stalk you
[16:10] <daftykins> heh my friend over in the US is taking a ferry from Connecticut to Block Island right now, i found the live data so spotted the exact vessel... http://www.marinetraffic.org/http://www.marinetraffic.org/
[16:10] <diddledan_> lmao
[16:10] <diddledan_> now who's the stalker?!
[16:11] <daftykins> :D
[16:12] <daftykins> she asked me to :P
[16:12] <diddledan_> in case she sinks?
[16:13] <daftykins> oh man last night was getting worn out by overthinking all the possible variables in case a plane was late or what have you :(
[16:13] <daftykins> this is why i love travelling alone...
[17:10] <daftykins> https://www.dropbox.com/s/mlmolbvsh6idbgk/M.2-SSD_vs_150GB-WD-raptor.png?dl=0
[17:10] <daftykins> we've come a long way!
[17:12] <penguin42> nice
[17:12] <daftykins> 10,000RPM Western Digital WD1500ADFD on the right
[17:13] <penguin42> daftykins: This was my SSD comparison; https://photos.google.com/search/ssd/photo/AF1QipNnYaN2hs_ta2VDyvINlIUus5OBSGrNNSLTXs-Q
[17:14] <daftykins> ah that one wants a login
[17:14] <penguin42> oh let me fix that
[17:14] <penguin42> https://goo.gl/photos/nAYjGArpSgGUc4Pd7  should work
[17:15] <penguin42> does it give you the text for that?
[17:16] <daftykins> got the pic :D
[17:17] <penguin42> 1 platter from a Fujitsu (Super?) Eagle ~50MB, an 8" floppy ~250KB, a DC600A tape ~60MB, and a new 120GB SSD
[17:18] <daftykins> :D magic, didn't recognise the tape that way up
[17:18] <daftykins> thankfully i've managed to stay away from them in my career
[17:21] <penguin42> daftykins: They were nice
[17:21] <penguin42> daftykins: The type of thing you could defend yourself with
[17:23] <penguin42> daftykins: The other similar pic is https://goo.gl/photos/kNxAjeqsu1vwMggC8 that's 128kB eprom, 32MB CF, 16GB uSD
[17:28] <daftykins> my dad did bring home a tape drive from work once when i was a kid, with the idea to back up our home machine... but when it took something like 4 hours to format a single tape and could be heard throughout the entire house doing so, i said no way am i ever touching this tech :P
[17:28] <daftykins> haha very nice :D
[17:28] <penguin42> haha
[17:29] <penguin42> daftykins: The fun thing with the big QIC tapes like those was that there were two standards that looked nearly identical (one used by HP one by Sun); they had different end-markers and I think ran in opposite directions; so if you put one tape in the other drive they could spool off the end
[18:27] <diddledan_> too cute: http://d.pr/i/16Bj9
[18:27] <diddledan_> I wanna hug her
[18:28] <daftykins> oh no! you're not one of them?
[18:29] <diddledan_> you mean "a mother hugger!"
[18:29] <diddledan_> ?
[18:30] <daftykins> part of the MLP fanbase
[18:33] <diddledan_> major league ponies?
[18:33] <diddledan_> I have no idea what MLP is
[18:33]  * daftykins squints
[18:33] <diddledan_> MLB is basketball, so ....
[18:33] <daftykins> baseball
[18:33] <diddledan_> :-p
[20:31] <daftykins> https://www.dropbox.com/s/iyc8mc6499h1jeh/HDD2.wav?dl=0 45 seconds into that XD
[20:55] <Safiyyah> knightwise, asus gt610 i think
[20:55] <daftykins> yip
[20:55] <daftykins> just use "lspci" in future :>
[20:56] <Safiyyah> daftykins, yes, I went to currys and all 32 inch tvs have just a vga and hdmi port
[20:57] <daftykins> yes because you don't get DVI on TVs - because TVs aren't monitors
[20:59] <Safiyyah> the largest monitor was a gaming monitor
[20:59] <penguin42> it's not the actual use of HDMI or DVI that's the problem; it's that TVs mangle the EDID to do odd things
[20:59] <Safiyyah> also no dvi
[20:59] <daftykins> no most things have moved to DisplayPort now
[21:00] <daftykins> my 2008 LCDs even have it!
[21:00]  * penguin42 hasn't seen a TV with DP
[21:00] <daftykins> monitors, not TVs
[21:00] <daftykins> you won't see it in the TV space
[21:02]  * penguin42 wishes the wasn't the split
[21:02] <daftykins> mmm proper mess across display standards really, as usual
[21:03] <lopta> Is there an i386 port of Ubuntu?
[21:03] <penguin42> lopta: There's a 32bit port - runs on 32bit machines but earliest I think is Pentium M with PAE
[21:03] <daftykins> lopta: what are you wanting to install on?
[21:03] <Safiyyah> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23125575/ i dont see where lspci lists that
[21:04] <lopta> daftykins: VIA C3
[21:04] <daftykins> Safiyyah: that's your laptop it doesn't use nvidia.
[21:04] <daftykins> lopta: give up :)
[21:04] <Safiyyah> oh i can see i have lost the plot
[21:04] <Safiyyah> atleast i labled them laptop and desktop accordingly
[21:05] <lopta> daftykins: :-D
[21:05] <Safiyyah> i installed xubuntu 16.4
[21:05] <lopta> daftykins: It was for a work thing.
[21:05] <Safiyyah> although am in love with mate
[21:05] <Safiyyah> the plank dokey, the lot!
[21:06] <lopta> daftykins: I have a cunning plan!
[21:07] <Safiyyah> I cant get drop box to work btw
[21:07] <Safiyyah> is there a reason?
[21:07] <penguin42> lopta: I think the C3 probably doesn't have PAE so the default install image wont do it;  it might be possible to install it because I think there are still non-PAE kernel packages in the repos but you couldn't use a normal install image
[21:08] <daftykins> *16.04
[21:08] <daftykins> lopta: indeed, bin it! :)
[21:08] <daftykins> penguin42: yeah that's what my memory recalls too, on the no PAE front
[21:09] <penguin42> lopta: Also I wouldn't take a bet on how the graphics support for the C3 is but you could try
[21:09] <penguin42> lopta: Unless you're comfortable wrangling debootstrap I'd say no
[21:09] <daftykins> definitely safer to avoid ;)
[21:10] <lopta> I think I have an alternative plan...
[21:11] <daftykins> well don't leave us in suspense!
[21:12] <lopta> I took the disks and put them in a 64-bit single-core test rig.
[21:13] <daftykins> :D
[21:13] <Safiyyah> i installed the php for drop box, no joy
[21:13] <daftykins> Safiyyah: not enough detail
[21:16] <lopta> daftykins: The C3 box is my PATA test rig. When I have a PATA disk to test or wipe, I plug it into that.
[21:16] <lopta> ...if it catches fire, it's no great loss.
[21:17] <lopta> The 64-bit rig is essentially the same thing for SATA drives.
[21:17] <daftykins> fair enough! i have some old core 2 systems for similar :>
[21:17] <Safiyyah> i installed drop box for caja, nothing happened, search on synaptic decided to add php-dropbox..... still no joy
[21:19] <daftykins> no, the easiest way is to install nautilus and nautilus-dropbox
[21:19] <daftykins> that gives the GUI file manager integration but because you're on xfce you have to run nautilus instead of the default file manager, which iirc is thunar
[21:20] <daftykins> that's one kludgy way of doing it anyway
[21:20] <daftykins> the alternative is to just use dropbox in the browser
[21:22] <Safiyyah> i cant get drop box to work on the laptop
[21:22] <Safiyyah> ubuntu mate
[21:22] <daftykins> same solution.
[21:22] <daftykins> !info nautilus-dropbox
[21:22] <daftykins> yip
[21:22] <Safiyyah> it is not that complicated in ubuntu
[21:22] <Safiyyah> i mean xubuntu
[21:23] <daftykins> it is if you want file manager integration
[21:23] <Safiyyah> perhaps God made you make me reinstall xubuntu
[21:23] <daftykins> which is totally separate from just having the program
[21:23] <daftykins> please don't speak of religion
[21:24] <Safiyyah> i wanted a twin system, now i am on two systems, I will have to learn
[21:24] <Safiyyah> when i am next downstairs I will try the xubuntu and see
[21:25] <daftykins> i've used it myself directly in the past on old laptops, the above i mention worked for me
[21:25] <Safiyyah> i think I had nautilus installed previously because I thought gksudo only worked with nautilus
[21:25] <Safiyyah> am finding it works with all file browsers
[21:25] <daftykins> hah time to learn to use the terminal instead of doing such tasks graphically!
[21:26] <daftykins> yes it's for running any graphical program as root essentially
[21:26] <Safiyyah> i promised to make a concerted effort to use the terminal
[21:27] <Safiyyah> only problem is, once the system is set up, I do not tinker with it
[21:27] <Safiyyah> but I suppose I can copy paste and make directories
[21:27] <daftykins> thing is when you use these shortcut methods like synaptic - things end up not working, it doesn't really do any favours
[21:28] <Safiyyah> there is one dude on here who seems to speak terminal language
[21:28] <daftykins> there's a lot more than one i assure you :>
[21:28] <Safiyyah> when he helped me with a system crash, one of the SSD crashed
[21:28] <Safiyyah> i couldnt believe how well he strung commands together
[21:28] <Safiyyah> i mean it was impressive
[21:29] <Safiyyah> no pike key.... no problem, he would just get past anything
[21:29] <daftykins> what do you mean when you say pike? do you mean pipe? as in |
[21:29] <Safiyyah> yes
[21:30] <Safiyyah> ah i learnt the name wrong
[21:30] <daftykins> ooh there's a thunar plugin for xubuntu now
[21:30] <Safiyyah> thank you
[21:30] <daftykins> for dropbox i mean
[21:30] <Safiyyah> yes there is
[21:31] <Safiyyah> but I set up the display
[21:31] <Safiyyah> asked the questions and ended there
[21:31] <daftykins> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:xubuntu-dev/extras && sudo apt update && sudo apt install thunar-dropbox-plugin
[21:31] <Safiyyah> i havent sorted anything else
[21:31] <Safiyyah> i need it for mate
[21:31] <Safiyyah> laptop is mate
[21:31] <daftykins> it's written 'MATE'
[21:33] <Safiyyah> okay, i am on the laptop..... please temporarily divorce my desktop
[21:33] <Safiyyah> only for tonight
[21:33] <daftykins> if you enabled SSH you could work on it from the laptop :P and vice versa
[21:35] <Safiyyah> now that is something that has my attention
[21:36] <Safiyyah> does the desktop need a network card?
[21:36] <Safiyyah> or is it just an app?
[21:36] <daftykins> it already has one since you get online with it
[21:36] <daftykins> whether it's wireless or not
[21:40] <Safiyyah> okay am listening
[21:40] <daftykins> neat, i'm off to bed - got a wedding tomorrow
[21:41] <daftykins> g'night all
[21:42] <Safiyyah> lol
[21:42] <lopta> daftykins: Good luck!
[21:42] <Safiyyah> ubuntu website says:  you must be an Ubuntu user that's comfortable using the command-line, editing configuration files, and starting and stopping daemon programs.
[21:42] <Safiyyah> i am not qualified
[21:43] <daftykins> that's rubbish
[21:43] <daftykins> lopta: hehe thanks, enduring such events needs luck for sure ;)
[21:43] <Safiyyah> i am looking up SSH
[21:43] <daftykins> yes i know XD
[21:45] <lopta> I'm comfortable with the command line, editing configuration files and starting and stopping daemons.
[21:45] <lopta> ...just not on Linux. ;-)
[21:45] <Safiyyah> i am reading more about the set up
[21:45] <Safiyyah> someone needs to design a command like work book
[21:46] <Safiyyah> so you do an exercise a day
[21:46] <lopta> Safiyyah: That's a good idea.
[21:46] <Safiyyah> am sure after 2 months one would be pretty good
[21:46] <Safiyyah> i short exercise everyday
[21:47] <Safiyyah> i don;t understand what tilda does
[21:47] <lopta> tilde is usually a shortcut that means "home"
[21:47] <lopta> ...so if I'm logged in as lopta, ~ means my home
[21:47] <Safiyyah> sshfs -o idmap=user alpha-centuari: ~/alpha-centauri/
[21:47] <lopta> ...I could also use ~Safiyyah to refer to your home.
[21:48] <Safiyyah> i mean what is that?
[21:48] <lopta> ~/alpha-centauri just means a directory inside your home directory that is called alpha-centauri
[21:48] <Safiyyah> lopta, and the first bit?
[21:49] <Safiyyah> i need a work book, I do one thing everyday until it all builds up
[21:50] <Safiyyah> then daftykins will stop thinking am a dumb blonde when it comes to this stuff *wink wink*
[21:53] <lopta> I could guess that the rest is a command that mounts a directory that you can log into via ssh as though it were a disk or nfs share.
[21:53] <lopta> Bear in mind that it's a command I've never used.
[21:53] <lopta> I'm guessing based on the context.
[21:57] <Safiyyah> good guess
[21:57] <Safiyyah> its correct based on the ubuntu website
[21:58] <Safiyyah> i found some tutorials
[21:58] <Safiyyah> i will work on that for the next couple of months
[21:58] <Safiyyah> i am tired of looking like a dummy on this channel
[21:59] <lopta> Safiyyah: I've found the people in this channel to be helpful and supportive of new people
[21:59] <lopta> (myself included)
[21:59] <Safiyyah> i am not new
[21:59] <lopta> Safiyyah: ...so don't be afraid to come back.
[21:59] <Safiyyah> been here more than 5 years
[21:59] <Safiyyah> i think i need to change
[21:59] <lopta> Safiyyah: "new" is relative. I consider myself a Linux beginner even though I first installed it from a stack of 5.25" 1200K floppies.
[22:00] <Safiyyah> after my recent short revisit to windows
[22:00] <Safiyyah> it is clear I will never return to windows
[22:00] <Safiyyah> of my own free will
[22:00]  * lopta nods
[22:00] <lopta> I have to go.
[22:00] <lopta> The office is closing.
[22:00] <Safiyyah> okay night