[00:03] <Disaster_Area> k1l: can u help m again? I can't navigate my way to localstorage for firefox in the file explorer (I'm not sure how to go to a specific address in there or anything either :x)
[00:14] <slicktux> Hi all I am using the latest Kubuntu LTS and I am having trouble with my mousepad. . .I've tried 'cat /dev/input/mouse***
[00:15] <slicktux> and I get no output, I come here because #kubuntu is dead and well Kubuntu uses the Ubuntu kernel and I figured I can get help here?
[00:15] <vacho_> I am logged on to a production server and I am trying to identify where the virtual hosts declaration can be found. Is there a command that can help me locate it?
[00:15] <slicktux> also, my lappy is the acer c720
[00:15] <slicktux> (chromebook)
[00:16] <compdoc> vacho_, is it kvm?
[00:17] <vacho_> compdoc: it's an AWS EC2 environment
[00:18] <compdoc> ah
[00:19] <vacho_> compdoc: I am trying to find the private.key for the SSL certificate.. but having trouble locating it.
[00:19] <vacho_> compdoc: could be it be configured on the load balancer, that's why I can't find it?
[00:20] <compdoc> sorry, no idea
[00:21] <baash05> Hey all.. still trying to figure out why my system is taking minutes to boot.. (if it even finishes)
[00:24] <baash05> I forget how to diagnose boot time issues..
[00:24] <slicktux> baash05: cat /var/log/kern.log or cat /var/log/syslog
[00:24] <siva_machina> vacho_, Have you looked in /etc/ssl?
[00:24] <slicktux> baash05: or systemd log
[00:25] <slicktux> baash05: might be a service hanging. . .
[00:25] <slicktux> who knows.
[00:25] <baash05> I'm just going to start writing a history of what I do to figure it out..
[00:26] <baash05> When I turned my system on today it hung for... well until I turned it off and on again.
[00:26] <vacho_> siva_machina: it's a centos distro..that folder does not exists.
[00:26] <baash05> Even then it took minutes. to get to the logon screen.
[00:26] <Rarrikins> baash05: `dmesg` shows you boot-time messages.
[00:26] <vacho_> siva_machina: I am starting to believe maybe the private.key is installed on the load balancer instead of the web server?
[00:27] <slicktux> baash05: yea, might be HDD i/o errors.
[00:27] <baash05> thankss.
[00:27] <slicktux> baash05: make backups!
[00:27] <baash05> Ha ha.. I have no data on my system..
[00:27] <siva_machina> vacho_, https://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/Https
[00:27] <baash05> all gitted up
[00:27] <baash05> :)
[00:28] <siva_machina> not sure if that will help
[00:28] <BillyTheKid> I am struggling to reinstall grub. anyone that can help me out?
[00:28] <baash05> I've had my io board replaced..
[00:28] <baash05> Then I was gold.. but I wonder if it was just a temp fix.
[00:29] <slicktux> BillyTheKid: installing grub with apt-get or to the HDD?
[00:31] <BillyTheKid> slicktux: when I run apt-get I get error messages. dpkg --configure -a is executed and I get "error: cannot read `/dev/sda': Input/output error."
[00:32] <baash05> What would be a good way to find out if it's a HDD or IO issue.
[00:33] <slicktux> baash05: tail -f /var/log/kern.log
[00:33] <slicktux> baash05: and then run the command and look for details.
[00:33] <slicktux> baash05: might be privelege error.
[00:34] <slicktux> baash05: i.e sudo is broken?
[00:34] <slicktux> baash05: try sudo su -
[00:34] <slicktux> then run the command
[00:34] <baash05> I looked at the kern.log and nothing screams at me.
[00:34] <slicktux> oooops
[00:34] <slicktux> those were meant to BillyTheKid
[00:34] <slicktux> My apologies.
[00:35] <slicktux> baash05: as for you. . .
[00:35] <BillyTheKid> sudo is not broken
[00:35] <baash05> Yeah.. cool.. I realized that.
[00:35] <baash05> too many wee ones.
[00:35] <slicktux> BillyTheKid: ok, well get to looking at yer log because my guess is as good as yers. . .unless you wgetpaste and post links. . .
[00:36] <slicktux> baash05: I doubt it is I/O errors might be a service haning. . .
[00:36] <Bashing-om> BillyTheKid: EFI system ?
[00:36] <slicktux> baash05: As before one can only guess unless you post yer logs on pastebin and link them here.
[00:36] <BillyTheKid> I am on live cd
[00:37] <BillyTheKid> do u want me to run "tail -f /var/log/kern.log" here?
[00:37] <Bashing-om> BillyTheKid: The grub install to the hardrive, is that system a EFI system ? or legacy booting ?
[00:37] <BillyTheKid> Bashing-om: no idea what you said :(
[00:38] <BillyTheKid> it might be irelevant I use LVM and /boot is installed in there
[00:38] <slicktux> BillyTheKid: why not try grub-install /dev/sda?? does that not work with ()buntu?
[00:38] <vacho> if I have a load balancer with 2 x EC2 instances, do I setup my SSL certs on the load balancer or on both web servers?
[00:38] <Bashing-om> BillyTheKid: Show us then what we have to work with . pastebin ' sudo parted -l ' .
[00:39] <BillyTheKid> gladly thanks for the help :)
[00:39] <Vad3rl> hi k1l I solved it.
[00:39] <BillyTheKid> http://pastebin.com/un8rAfLu
[00:39] <Bashing-om> BillyTheKid: look'n .
[00:41] <Freename> wow wow wow haram
[00:41] <BillyTheKid> currently I am with live-cd. I have mounted the LVM volume and I see the /boot folder in it.
[00:41] <baash05> slicktux: http://pastebin.com/r9tKxpX7  That's my dmesg
[00:41] <baash05> The kern.log doesn't seem to be present for the failed log.
[00:42] <baash05> failed boot-up
[00:42] <Bashing-om> BillyTheKid: Sorry, It is LVM and I do not know how LVM boots .
[00:42] <BillyTheKid> damn this freaking LVM bites me in the arse every time... :(
[00:43] <slicktux> baash05: might be yer wifi card.
[00:43] <slicktux> baash05: hold
[00:46] <slicktux> baash05: yea, still looking;
[00:46] <baash05> slicktux: kern.log  => http://pastebin.com/LgYUB2Uf
[00:46] <baash05> thanks so much man.
[00:47] <BillyTheKid> slicktux: any experience on grub + LVM?
[00:48] <slicktux> BillyTheKid: negative.
[00:48] <BillyTheKid> yay! I'm on my own with this crap :P
[00:48] <slicktux> BillyTheKid: this might help; https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/LVM
[00:49] <ImageJPEG> So, for whatever reason, after a fresh install of 16.04, my battery indicator disappears. Was working just fine then gone.
[00:49] <slicktux> baash05: Well, there is too much for me to be able to refine. . .in those logs; I suggest you follow this http://askubuntu.com/questions/10503/how-can-i-see-what-happens-during-the-boot-process so that you can see what is causing the hang. . .
[00:50] <baash05> thanks..
[00:50] <slicktux> baash05: once you find out what is causing the hang come back here and tells us.
[00:50] <baash05> will do..
[00:50] <baash05> many eyes.. shallow bugs.
[00:50] <slicktux> baash05: maybe take pics and post them in imgur or http://picpaste.com/
[00:51] <slicktux> baash05: should not be too hard. . .little effort will help clear up the issue.
[00:51] <slicktux> ;)
[00:51]  * slicktux does not use bootsplash for that purpose. . .
[00:51] <baash05> Last time.. they replaced a part.
[00:51] <baash05> But I don't like having to reinstall all my software.
[00:52] <baash05> Just a PITA.
[00:52] <BillyTheKid> anyone who knows how to reinstall grub2 on LVM?
[00:52] <slicktux> baash05: you don't have to if you learn how to troubleshoot; i.e. process of elimination, and inductive and deductive reasoning.
[00:53] <fer750> BillyTheKid may be you say lvs ?
[00:54] <BillyTheKid> fer750: Logical volume manager
[00:55] <slicktux> BillyTheKid: So, what exactly happend? did you accidently remove grub from sda? or is this a fresh minimal install?
[00:55] <slicktux> BillyTheKid: what distro bro?
[00:55] <slicktux> ubuntu?
[00:55] <BillyTheKid> slicktux: I am running ubuntu. few weeks back some sectors went bad and I had major issues booting it again.
[00:56] <BillyTheKid> slicktux: now every time I try to do apt-get I get errors
[00:56] <slicktux> BillyTheKid: So, it might be I/O read errors.
[00:56] <OerHeks> bad sectors grow.
[00:56] <fer750> BillyTheKid: sry i confuse that with linux virtual server
[00:57] <BillyTheKid> the health of the disk seems ok with the diagnostic tools but I get what you say
[00:57] <logical> lol BillyTheKid i tought you called me "Logical volume manager"
[00:57] <slicktux> BillyTheKid: okay, run hdparm -t /dev/sda through alld partiton numbers, starting with sda first.
[00:58] <risenwolf> Hi. Does anybody here got "Error mounting /dev/sdb1 at /media/" disk problem?
[00:58] <BillyTheKid> anyway I get this error message every time I get a similar error: http://pastebin.com/60eFpMki
[00:58] <BillyTheKid> lol logical
[00:58] <logical> <3
[00:58] <OerHeks> risenwolf, make a folder under /media/, do not mount it directly.
[00:59] <slicktux> BillyTheKid: yea, seems like grub-install is having problems writing to yer HDD
[01:00] <risenwolf> OerHeks: So, you suggest me to change the mounting from auto to manual?
[01:00] <BillyTheKid> slicktux: http://pastebin.com/VMJJibES
[01:01] <OerHeks> risenwolf, no, make a folder like /media/mydrive/ and mount it there
[01:02] <slicktux> BillyTheKid: grub-install /dev/sda && post output; warning will delete current grub in HDD is any. . .
[01:02] <las`vegas> #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE.
[01:02] <las`vegas> #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE.
[01:02] <OerHeks> risenwolf, automount .. what is on that partition,ntfs?
[01:02] <las`vegas> #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE.
[01:02] <OerHeks> !ops
[01:02] <slicktux> jesus
[01:03] <risenwolf> OerHeks: I feel dumb, because I'm newbie to the ubuntu system. So, make the folder under the media/mydrive by terminal? And after that, set it up on the Mount Point in the disks app, am I right?
[01:03] <OerHeks> risenwolf, automount .. what is on that partition,ntfs?
[01:03] <risenwolf> OerHeks: Yep. NTFS
[01:03] <OerHeks> oh, i would have known that from the start.
[01:03] <BillyTheKid> slicktux: my /boot is in the root
[01:03] <BillyTheKid> there is no separate partition
[01:04] <BillyTheKid> I mean it is the volume
[01:04] <Vad3rl> it seems you're not suppose to activate your keyboard lights with just a simple "xset led" according to google, I need to add "xset led 3" now the lag is gone :)
[01:04] <OerHeks> risenwolf, if it does not mount automatic, then the ntfs is *dirty*, do a filecheck in windows
[01:04] <BillyTheKid> am I safe to run " grub-install /dev/sda"?
[01:04] <BillyTheKid> sorry for the noob questions
[01:05] <risenwolf> OerHeks: This incident happened after mine windows 10 crushed, so I've installed the ubuntu on the disk where the windows is
[01:05] <risenwolf> OerHeks: Oh, and the disk itself is SSD
[01:05] -jusme1:#ubuntu- #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE.
[01:05] <risenwolf> OerHeks: If this info does something with that case.
[01:06] <OerHeks> i wouldn't use linux tools to fix ntfs, ubuntu fix ntfs
[01:06] <slicktux> BillyTheKid: that is understood, but grub must be installed in /dev/sda so that it can than load the kernel image from whereever /boot may be, that is taken care of by grub.cfg, I believe; anyhow I just want to make sure that grub is installing to HDD without error. . . it should be safe to run grub-install /dev/sda
[01:06] <slicktux> BillyTheKid: run at yer risk though.
[01:06] <risenwolf> OerHeks: I can't reach windows 10 because it bootloops itself, it keeps going on diagnostic, and automatic repair
[01:06] -hotrob:#ubuntu- #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE.
[01:06] -TaskForceIRC:#ubuntu- #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE.
[01:07] <BillyTheKid> slicktux: thanks for helping and for your patience with me :) I'll run it now
[01:07] <OerHeks> !info ntfsfix
[01:07] <slicktux> BillyTheKid: kk
[01:07] <Vad3rl> what does r+ do?
[01:08] <Vad3rl> +r I mean ;p
[01:08] <BillyTheKid> Installing for i386-pc platform. grub-install: error: failed to get canonical path of `/cow'.
[01:08] <risenwolf> OerHeks: Put that line on the terminal?
[01:08] <slicktux> BillyTheKid: AH!
[01:08] <dax> Vad3rl: stops users who are not identified to NickServ from joining the channel until it's removed
[01:08] <Vad3rl> dax, cheers. :)
[01:09] <BillyTheKid> slicktux: holycow!?!
[01:09] <risenwolf> OerHeks: Hmm.. is it the way to reach the safe mode of windows 10 by boot launcher(chooser)?
[01:09] <slicktux> BillyTheKid: no, just don't know what that means.
[01:09] <slicktux> Look,
[01:09] <OerHeks> risenwolf, ntfsfix is already there with ntfs-3g .. i think you can run :  ntfxfix /dev/sdb2
[01:09] <slicktux> BillyTheKid: what version of Ubuntu are you trying to fix and what version of livecd are you using?:
[01:10] <slicktux> BillyTheKid: I must admit I am as confused as you are.
[01:10] <BillyTheKid> ubuntu 16 in both cases.
[01:10] <BillyTheKid> the pc is upgraded from 04.14
[01:10] <BillyTheKid> slicktux: found this earlier http://askubuntu.com/questions/254491/failed-to-get-canonical-path-of-cow
[01:11] <BillyTheKid> trying to do the same thing. but I am uncertain on whether I should mount the volume and do the same. I tried it but did not work for mewhen tried chroot
[01:12] <slicktux> BillyTheKid: won't hurt to try, problem is it may or may not fix the initial problem.
[01:12] <Freename> Ubuntu bad performance in game :/
[01:13] <slicktux> BillyTheKid: Just make sure to not follow command blindly and you understand what is happening before you hit enter.
[01:13] <BillyTheKid> hahaha the later is my problem
[01:14] <Bashing-om> Freename: Release 16.04 and ATI graphics ?
[01:17] <Freename> I am here sorry wait you
[01:17] <Freename> 16.04 Nvidia
[01:17] <Freename> I play Medieval II total war
[01:18] <Freename> 60-90 fps on map but maybe time down 35 FPS
[01:18] <Freename> (my english is bad ^^)
[01:18] <risenwolf> OerHeks: I need to restart my pc to get the authentication right, because it bugs from time to time, I'll be back, and thanks for attention to my problem with disk.
[01:19] <Freename> CPU AMD FX 8350
[01:19] <ComputerPassion> Can anyone please help / advise on this issue: http://askubuntu.com/questions/817876/ubuntu-16-04-1-lts-kernel-boot-over-90-seconds
[01:19] <Bashing-om> Freename: nVidia we can make work . pastebin - lspci -k | grep -EA2 'VGA|3D' ; dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia ' . saee what we can do .
[01:19] <BillyTheKid> slicktux: mounted the volume, chroot to the mounted location and run grub-install /dev/sda
[01:20] <slicktux> BillyTheKid: Output?
[01:20] <BillyTheKid> I get "grub-install: error: cannot find a device for /boot/grub (is /dev mounted?)."
[01:20] <slicktux> Succesfull?
[01:20] <BillyTheKid> i guess due to the chroot?
[01:21] <Bashing-om> BillyTheKid: Got to mount both the boot partition and as well the root partition to re-install grub .
[01:21] <slicktux> BillyTheKid: well, think about it. you say you have /boot in what? therefore you must have it mounted as  boot and possibly be in its DIR so that grub-install cant find it and install to /dev/sda
[01:21] <Freename> lspci -k | grep -EA2 'VGA|3D' ; dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia06:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GM206 [GeForce GTX 960] (rev a1)
[01:21] <Freename> 	Subsystem: ZOTAC International (MCO) Ltd. GM206 [GeForce GTX 960]
[01:21] <Freename> 	Kernel driver in use: nvidia
[01:21] <Freename> ii  nvidia-361                                 361.42-0ubuntu2                                             amd64        NVIDIA binary driver - version 361.42
[01:21] <slicktux> BillyTheKid: ^^^
[01:21] <Freename> ii  nvidia-opencl-icd-361                      361.42-0ubuntu2                                             amd64        NVIDIA OpenCL ICD
[01:21] <Freename> ii  nvidia-prime                               0.8.2                                                       amd64        Tools to enable NVIDIA's Prime
[01:22] <slicktux> Freename: man, use pastebin.
[01:22] <Bashing-om> !paste | Freename
[01:22] <BillyTheKid> Bashing-om: There is no boot partition. it is in the root partition. I can see the /boot folder
[01:23] <uotzap> Guys, I'm having problems with my wlan0 interface
[01:23] <BillyTheKid> slicktux: should I try run the commands from my ubuntu box instead from the live cd?
[01:23] <slicktux> BillyTheKid: should not matter, either should work; but wait.
[01:23] <uotzap> It's disconnecting
[01:23] <slicktux> dk
[01:24] <slicktux> that was weird my last text did not fo out.
[01:24] <Bashing-om> bil Wrong, look at your partion ouptput, that 1st partition is the /boot partition .
[01:24] <slicktux> BillyTheKid: my /boot partition is in / but I mount it to /dev/sda2. . .
[01:24] <slicktux> BillyTheKid: during post.
[01:25] <uotzap> And when I try to use sudo service networking restart shell shows up a error
[01:25] <slicktux> BillyTheKid: Bashing-om is onto something;
[01:25] <Freename> How can I cut my SS
[01:26] <BillyTheKid> ok there are times I don't know what you are talking about :P
[01:26] <slicktux> BillyTheKid: it is reciprocal
[01:26] <BillyTheKid> I know that my VLM has two volumes, the root andthe swap. no boot
[01:26] <Bashing-om> slicktux: BillyTheKid But, I do not know how to mount the root in the LVM !
[01:26] <BillyTheKid> slicktux: yes because I am a noob :(
[01:27]  * slicktux is confused.
[01:27] <BillyTheKid> Bashing-om: I have mounted the root volume fromthe LVM
[01:27] <Freename> http://imgur.com/wwZ5LbQ
[01:27] <BillyTheKid> guys I'm so sorryfor the confusion :(
[01:27] <Bashing-om> BillyTheKid: Look again at your ' sudo parted -l ' output :)
[01:28] <Freename> Nvidia driver version 361.42
[01:29] <BillyTheKid> Bashing-om: I see...
[01:29] <BillyTheKid> also fdisk -l:
[01:29] <Freename> I will try
[01:30] <BillyTheKid> http://pastebin.com/zz4hQ0qE
[01:30] <slicktux> BillyTheKid: Now, let this serve as a reminder; right now you are trying to install grub 'manually' because that is where the error occured in yer initial problem with dpk whatever. . .if you succeed at this then it might be the LiveCD or the utilities, who knows, maybe it will install grub and yer prob will be solved.
[01:32] <Bashing-om> Freename: ; good .. now we need to know the hardware . do - lspci -k | grep -EA2 'VGA|3D' | nc termbin.com 999 - . Then also - dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia | nc termbint,com 999 - . Pass the resulting URL's back here .
[01:32] <slicktux> BillyTheKid: my guess is as good as yers, at the end what matters is that you learn. ;)
[01:32] <BillyTheKid> Bashing-om: I see your point. /dev/sda1 should be boot right?
[01:32] <BillyTheKid> slicktux: as long as I don't mess up the data :P
[01:33] <BillyTheKid> slicktux: but i do agree yes
[01:33] <slicktux> BillyTheKid: that is why you do backups. if not you can always dd the drive to another drive and foremost for file recover.
[01:34] <Bashing-om> BillyTheKid: Correct ! that is where stage 1 of the boot code will install too .. now the other stage and a half of the boot code goes in / .. I do not know how to tell the installer where / is .
[01:34] <Freename> I don't know. What is it :D
[01:35] <BillyTheKid> Bashing-om: you are talking about the /boot folder right?
[01:35] <Bashing-om> free. run the commands as given in terminal. The result is a URL back in terminal . Pass these complete links back here and I can access the generated files .
[01:36] <Bashing-om> BillyTheKid: The /boot partition is only 1/2 of the install .
[01:36] <BillyTheKid> Bashing-om: currently I mounted the LVM volume in /mnt/fcroot. So the boot is in /mnt/fcroot/boot.
[01:37] <Freename> see you all good night
[01:37] <Freename> thx for all and my english is SO FUCK
[01:37] <Freename> I love oyu
[01:37] <Freename> you*
[01:37] <slicktux> 0.0
[01:39] <ImageJPEG> For whatever reason, Ubuntu doesn't think I have a battery in my laptop. It tells me battery not present when I type "dmesg | grep -i battery"
[01:39] <ImageJPEG> Suggestions?
[01:39] <Bashing-om> BillyTheKid: I do not know ... but ya got to also mount /boot as well as where ever the root (/) partition is mounted . Your mount points are going to determine how ' sudo grub-install --boot-directory=/mnt/boot /dev/sda ' will work .
[01:39] <ImageJPEG> It still works when I unplug the computer
[01:40] <BillyTheKid> Bashing-om: that is what I am reading. I can see my /boot folder in /mnt/fcroot/boot
[01:40] <BillyTheKid> Bashing-om: so from what I read I should do "sudo grub-install --boot-directory=/mnt/fcroot/boot /dev/sda"
[01:40] <tpw_rules> hey. i'm having a problem where items put in the trash on some volumes don't show in nautilus.
[01:41] <BillyTheKid> Bashing-om: should I go for it? or will I mess it up? :P
[01:41] <tpw_rules> eg i have a volume mounted at /media/zfs/code. i delete /media/zfs/code/blah from nautilus. it doesn't show up when i click on trash, but it's in /media/zfs/code/.Trash-1000
[01:41] <tpw_rules> for some reason nautilus isn't looking there
[01:43] <Bashing-om> BillyTheKid: You mount the /boot partiton such ' sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt ' . maybe running ' sudo grub-install --boot-directory=/mnt/boot /dev/sda ' will work ???
[01:43] <ImageJPEG> Also, Ubuntu use to detect my battery
[01:44] <BillyTheKid> Bashing-om: I see what you mean.. So what the heck is that "/boot" under my root?
[01:44] <BillyTheKid> a different thing?
[01:44] <Bashing-om> BillyTheKid: LVM ... I know nothing :)
[01:45] <fer750> ImageJPEG: do you have installed acpi pkg?
[01:45] <fer750> ImageJPEG: like acpi-support-base and so
[01:46] <fer750> and acpid
[01:46] <ImageJPEG> Yes, already installed it. It doesn't give me any information if I run either "acpi" or "acpi -b" It just quits and gives me back control to the terminal
[01:46] <BillyTheKid> Bashing-om: that "/boot" folder I am yapping all this time about contains a grub folder and a initrd.img-4.4.0-36-generic.new
[01:46] <ImageJPEG> But I'm just confused as to why it was working eariler today and I just noticed that the indicator disappeared tonigh
[01:46] <ImageJPEG> tonight
[01:48] <BillyTheKid> Bashing-om: ok I actual run exactly what you said and the familiar "error: cannot read `/dev/sda': Input/output error." is back
[01:48] <slicktux> BillyTheKid: yea, that /boot folder contains the kernel image
[01:48] <slicktux> BillyTheKid: might be HDD?
[01:48] <BillyTheKid> lol and after 5 times the same error "error: cannot read `/dev/sda': Input/output error."
[01:49] <BillyTheKid> sorry after 5 times I got "Installation finished. No error reported."
[01:49] <BillyTheKid> lol
[01:49] <BillyTheKid> man that's nuts
[01:49] <slicktux> BillyTheKid: hdparm -t /dev/sda
[01:49] <slicktux> BillyTheKid: hdparm -T /dev/sda
[01:49] <BillyTheKid>  Timing buffered disk reads: read(2097152) returned 1273856 bytes
[01:49] <slicktux> BillyTheKid: Both
[01:50] <BillyTheKid> 1 2 and 5?
[01:50] <slicktux> BillyTheKid: -t && -T
[01:50] <slicktux> BillyTheKid: ya already gave me -T
[01:50] <slicktux> now -t
[01:50] <slicktux> hdparm --help for info on the flags.
[01:51] <slicktux> BillyTheKid: might be the HDD or the config file? who knows. . .
[01:51] <BillyTheKid> so "sudo hdparm -T /dev/sda" returns " Timing cached reads:   25446 MB in  2.00 seconds = 12736.44 MB/sec"
[01:51] <slicktux> anyone?
[01:52] <Bashing-om> BillyTheKid: If you mounted both the /boot and the /root partition and ran the grub install exactly as given ,, then I would question the health of the drive .
[01:52] <BillyTheKid> with lowercase it retuns "  Timing cached reads:   25446 MB in  2.00 seconds = 12736.44 MB/sec"
[01:52] <__michael> hi!!
[01:52] <__michael> anyone wanna help me do an upgrade from 11.04?
[01:52] <BillyTheKid> so my boot partition is mounted on /mnt/myboot
[01:53] <BillyTheKid> the root is on /mnt/fcroot, nevertheless inside it contains a "boot" folder
[01:53] <BillyTheKid> which also confuses the hell out of me...
[01:54] <slicktux> BillyTheKid: yea, look
[01:54] <slicktux> BillyTheKid: my /boot is in / which is == to /boot being in /dev/sda4 but I auto mount /boot to /dev/sda2 for grub.
[01:54] <slicktux> == to rootfs
[01:55] <BillyTheKid> i see
[01:55] <slicktux> BillyTheKid: you are getting to learn yer system.
[01:55] <Bashing-om> BillyTheKid: inside the /boot directory is the actual kernel. initrd,  and the second stages of the boot code . convential : https://iam.tj/kb/pc/boot/#a_bootloader .
[01:55] <slicktux> ;)
[01:55] <slicktux> yup ^^
[01:55] <BillyTheKid> the two folder contents are different though
[01:55] <BillyTheKid> different files
[01:55] <slicktux> in my /boot is my kernel image and my second stage for the boot code which is grub.cfg
[01:56] <BillyTheKid> let me give it a reboot and come back without the live cd
[01:56] <BillyTheKid> see if I can stillboot the pc :p
[01:56] <slicktux> BillyTheKid: so, /boot/kernel-image && /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[01:56] <slicktux> BillyTheKid: gl
[01:57] <Bashing-om> slicktux: BillyTheKid :: and all the hooks and scripts are in /boot too !
[01:58] <slicktux> yup
[01:58] <BillyTheKid> if I dont manage to get in, thank you very much for helping me
[01:58] <BillyTheKid> I really appreciate it guys :)
[01:58] <poseidon> When I go to google chrome's website, I can't seem to download it using Ubuntu's "Browser"
[01:59] <poseidon> https://www.google.com/chrome/browser/thankyou.html?platform=linux
[01:59] <ElPresidente> What do you mean Ubuntu's browser?  Firefox?
[01:59] <poseidon> I uninstalled firefox
[01:59] <poseidon> I'm just using "Browser" which comes with ubuntu
[01:59] <slicktux> np
[01:59] <ElPresidente> You can try to wget the .deb file
[02:00] <slicktux> poseidon: what is this ubuntu borwser? sounds so mystical.
[02:00] <Rarrikins> poseidon: http://askubuntu.com/a/196100/147763
[02:00] <ww_waster> cool an ubuntu browser :)
[02:00] <ElPresidente> poseidon, try 'wget https://dl.google.com/linux/direct/google-chrome-stable_current_amd64.deb' in terminal and run that
[02:03] <poseidon> slicktux: it comes with ubuntu out of the box, you probably have it
[02:03] <slicktux> or try wget 'my_malicious_file_to_xorr_yer_lappy.sh
[02:03] <slicktux> jk
[02:03] <slicktux> xD
[02:03] <slicktux> poseidon: /me looks
[02:03] <ElPresidente> wget 'windows_10_update.sh' ;^)
[02:03] <cfhowlett> slicktux, not the slightest bit funny.  stop
[02:03] <slicktux> lol
[02:03] <slicktux> cfhowlett: my apologies.
[02:04] <ElPresidente> the nerve of you
[02:04] <ElPresidente> ;^)
[02:04]  * slicktux slaps own hand
[02:04] <cfhowlett> bear in mind that many users are not as informed as you.  it's all fun and games until some borks their system with a command cuz they saw it on the "ubuntu irc help"
[02:05] <slicktux> cfhowlett: I agree and I apologies; I should not have fun at the expense of others, after all I do enjoy helping those in need.
[02:05] <cfhowlett> let's move on
[02:06] <uotzap> Anyone can help me with my network conection?
[02:06] <cfhowlett> !ask | uotzap
[02:06] <slicktux> xD
[02:06] <dongwenhan> what can i do for you?
[02:07] <poseidon> so i tried to install the chrome .deb file but I get "Package libappindicator1 is not installed."
[02:08] <poseidon> Then I get an error trying to install that saying it depends on "libindicator7" ... which gives me an error saying it depends on libappindicator1
[02:09] <slicktux> poseidon: that is, the package you are trying to install depends on libindicator7 ergo you must install it and link it; might have to run it as a command to automate it? anyone; you might get away with just installing the dependency, libapp
[02:09] <ww_waster> poseidon, did you installed libappindicator1 before installing?
[02:09] <slicktux> && libappindicator
[02:10] <dongwenhan> chrome depend on it
[02:10] <poseidon> ww_waster: I couldn't
[02:10] <uotzap> dongwenhan: my wifi chipset is restarting by itself
[02:11] <poseidon> slicktux: I get an error trying to install libindicator7
[02:11] <cfhowlett> poseidon, what version of ubuntu do you have.  chrome downloaded and installed fine for me
[02:11] <ww_waster> poseidon, welcome to the world of "dependencies"
[02:11] <poseidon> I just installed ubuntu 16.04 and did an update all in the software center
[02:11] <slicktux> dephell!
[02:11] <ww_waster> lol
[02:12] <cfhowlett> poseidon, do this in your terminal and paste the url it returns:   lsb_release -a | nc termbin.com 9999
[02:12] <slicktux> poseidon: try installing libappindicator1 and then after libindicator7
[02:12] <slicktux> poseidon: disregard. follow cfhowlett
[02:12] <ww_waster> poseidon,  why not get the distro package instead of a .deb
[02:13] <poseidon> ww_waster: what's the distro package?  I couldn't find it in the software center
[02:13] <poseidon> cfhowlett: "No LSB modules available"
[02:14] <poseidon> Also firefox was uninstalled but the software manager still shows it as installed...
[02:15] <poseidon> so I can't install it again through the software manager.  That seems super buggy
[02:15] <cfhowlett> poseidon, put firefox in a terminal
[02:15] <poseidon> Yeah, it's nowhere in my path
[02:16] <cfhowlett> poseidon, cat /etc/lsb-release | nc termbin.com 9999
[02:16] <ww_waster> poseidon,  ok, so the pack wasn't avaiable on your repo - I think a search for "chrome portable" may be good for you
[02:16] <poseidon> great, trying to install firefox doesn't work in terminal with atp-get sayint it needs libappindicator1
[02:17] <poseidon> http://termbin.com/j2pa
[02:17] <ww_waster> those portable repos come w/ statically compiled stuff - no deps
[02:17] <dongwenhan> uotzap:wifi chipset is new type?
[02:17] <cfhowlett> poseidon, chromium is the unbranded google chrome version and it is in the repos
[02:17] <poseidon> well now I can't even install firefox
[02:19] <roguemocha> Good evening yall
[02:19] <roguemocha> hello world
[02:19] <poseidon> I hate ubuntu software manager, it is 2vcu
[02:19] <poseidon> it seems to break everything everytime I use it
[02:19] <uotzap> dongwenhan: I'm sorry ha ha my wifi conection is restarting each 5 minutes
[02:20] <poseidon> I have no idea why I continue to use it
[02:21] <poseidon> Does it even give any sort of info of what it is doing?  It just messes stuff up and gives me no indication
[02:21] <roguemocha> i just bought this little thinkpad x100e for $35 on ebay
[02:21] <ww_waster> poseidon, from the repo you downloaded chromiun.deb you may find the libs packages too
[02:21] <roguemocha> its pretty nice for a little netbook
[02:21] <roguemocha> came with 4gb ram and
[02:21] <poseidon> I'm not tryint to install chrome anymore
[02:21] <ww_waster> roguemocha, wow
[02:21] <cfhowlett> roguemocha, no chitchat here please
[02:21] <roguemocha> ubuntu mate runs pretty solid so far :)
[02:21] <dongwenhan> uotzap,my computer is sencond hand
[02:21] <poseidon> I can't even install firefox
[02:21] <cfhowlett> !ot | roguemocha
[02:22] <dongwenhan> wifi chipset is old
[02:22] <cfhowlett> poseidon, sudo apt install firefox | nc termbin.com 9999
[02:22] <poseidon> brand new install and I can't even install packages :(
[02:22] <ww_waster> roguemocha, used?
[02:22] <roguemocha> yeah
[02:22] <roguemocha> wait this is support?
[02:22] <poseidon> http://termbin.com/5em2
[02:22] <roguemocha> sorry i thought it was just irc
[02:23] <cfhowlett> roguemocha, yes.  please chitchat in the other channels
[02:23] <dongwenhan> uotzap,don't play ubuntu on new computer
[02:23] <cfhowlett> poseidon, so did you run apt-get -f install          as noted?
[02:24] <roguemocha> wait what version ubuntu do you have?
[02:24] <poseidon> cfhowlett: ok.  That worked :)  I'm just always wary of -f
[02:24] <uotzap> dongwenhan: Mine is Qualcomm Atheros ar9485
[02:24] <slicktux> -_-
[02:25] <dongwenhan> which year?uotzap
[02:25] <roguemocha> i did have an issue with my machine before -- i noticed it was shutting down on its own.
[02:25] <uotzap> dongwenhan: why? I'm happy with Ubuntu but this is pushing me away
[02:26] <uotzap> dongwenhan: 2014
[02:26] <roguemocha> i think it must hav ebeen overheating is all
[02:26] <roguemocha> is there a way to check if the system shut down due to temps?
[02:26] <roguemocha> like a log of some sort
[02:27] <roguemocha> well ill be out then. gnite good peeps
[02:27] <dongwenhan> linux don't support new hardware enough,uotzap
[02:27] <dongwenhan> the drive is poor
[02:28] <uotzap> dongwenhan: but it was working fine until this night
[02:29] <dongwenhan> you like to turn from side to side,in chinese,zheteng
[02:29] <uotzap> I tryied to get wlan0 down and up again but it didn't resolve my problem
[02:31] <dongwenhan> I think ,you should reinstall the ubuntu,uotzap
[02:31] <dongwenhan> I reinstall it N times
[02:32] <cfhowlett> uotzap, have your recently performed a system upgrade?  atheros is famously flaky on ubuntu and a new kernel could cause issues
[02:33] <Afshaal> So what do I do when my system freezes during a distro version upgrade?
[02:33] <Afshaal> besides get really angry
[02:33] <dongwenhan> Don't update the system easily,please to be stable
[02:33] <cfhowlett> !cn | dongwenhan, you might find it easier to use the other channel
[02:34] <cfhowlett> Afshaal, assume that it didn't work as planned.  download the .iso and clean install.
[02:34] <Afshaal> I mean is there something I should do now
[02:34] <Afshaal> before powering off
[02:34] <cfhowlett> Afshaal, nope.
[02:34] <Afshaal> :(
[02:34] <Afshaal> this was almost a fresh 14.04 install too
[02:35] <cfhowlett> Afshaal, you were moving from 12.04  > 14.04?
[02:35] <Afshaal> can't even upgrade to 16.04 from a fresh 14.04?  Canonical please -_-
[02:35] <Afshaal> 14.04 -> 16.04
[02:36] <Afshaal> Oookay well I sure hope my entire GRUB setup isn't messed up here...
[02:36] <cfhowlett> Afshaal, lots of things can go wrong during an upgrade.  usual suspect is a dropped connection.  fix: download the .iso, make a bootable usb and clean install.
[02:36] <Afshaal> would be nice to be able to boot into my other OSs
[02:36] <cfhowlett> also easily fixed
[02:37] <Afshaal> Well it sure doesn't help when 14.04 -> 16.04 decides it needs to remove GRUB Customizer for whatever dumb reason I:<
[02:37] <poseidon> Is there anything I need to do to install drivers for an intel hd integrated graphics, or does that come with ubuntu by default?
[02:38] <Rarrikins> poseidon: That's supported by default.
[02:38] <cfhowlett> poseidon, depends on how new the card is.
[02:38] <uotzap> cfhowlett: no, I didn't run an upgrade, but thank you
[02:39] <cfhowlett> uotzap, easy test: reboot, at grub go to advanced options, select an old kernel to boot
[02:40] <Afshaal> Well GRUB shows my usual OS options...  Unfortunately none of them actually boot now D:<
[02:40] <Afshaal> real nice
[02:40] <poseidon> cfhowlett: it's a intel hd graphics 520
[02:41] <uotzap> cfhowlett: ok
[02:41] <cfhowlett> !grub | Afshaal
[02:41] <poseidon> just wondering because chrome is doing a bit of flickering
[02:41] <cfhowlett> poseidon, pretty sure you are default supported
[02:43] <Rarrikins> poseidon: See if turning off hardware rendering in the advanced settings and restarting Chrome fixes it.
[02:43] <cfhowlett> poseidon, if it's only faulting on chrome, that would be a chrome setting issue
[02:47] <poseidon> http://askubuntu.com/questions/766725/annoying-flickering-in-16-04-lts-chrome
[02:47] <poseidon> seems to just be an issue with chrome on ubuntu :(
[02:48] <cfhowlett> poseidon, as suggested: disable hardware acceleration
[02:49] <ww_waster> bye
[02:51] <poseidon> cfhowlett: disabling hardware acceleration makes scrolling horrible.
[02:51] <poseidon> I'd rather have some flickering
[02:51] <cfhowlett> :)
[02:59] <poseidon> cfhowlett: what do you think about this? https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=606152#c73
[03:00] <ScriptThis> How do I take a screenshot in 16.04, and where does it go? PrtScrn and Alt-PrtScrn?
[03:00] <cfhowlett> poseidon, well that's one method.  or just use a different browser?
[03:00] <cfhowlett> !browser
[03:02] <SonikkuAmerica> Don't forget lynx
[03:08] <poseidon> chromium doesn't have the flickering :)
[03:22] <nathan__> hey
[03:40] <Joral> I have a laptop that I use for various experimentation.  Having recently finished my degree in digital investigations many of the tools I am attempting to work with either require or strongly suggest the use of opencl.  Since the most recent update dropped support for the fglrx driver I am kind of lost on where to go from here. would anyone have any suggestions?
[03:43] <artyx> I have this weird transient network issue with 16 LTS (fully up to date) ... when using bridged networking with a BCM5761 adapter (i think thats hte model) .. Network cuts out spontaneously. .. i changed config to just use enp6s0 and poof, no more internet problems, stable as a rock
[03:43] <artyx> Put the bridge back .. and it cuts out again
[03:43] <artyx> Anyone have suggestions on how best to troubleshoot this ?
[03:45] <artyx> Im trying to set up kvm as the hypervisor on this pc .. its a nice pc
[03:46] <Joral> artyx, not real familiar with that bridge but the spec sheet says it has integrated security which means that it is capable of packet filtering.  are you sure its not configured to drop management packets?
[03:46] <artyx> when i got the "spontaneous" cut out, i saw link drop, and link established again
[03:47] <artyx> Joral:  ... You think the hardware may be blocking the packets itself ? .. my litmus test is bang on a host in my lan (Teh gateway) and two hosts on the net .. one a physical host at the other switch, one at a vhost off the other switch
[03:47] <artyx> and then an internet host too
[03:47] <artyx> I see "Flow control" set to on, but no other settings in kernel init debug
[03:48] <artyx> Joral: The adapter is the integrated adapter on this dell precision T7500
[03:49] <Joral> artyx, something security related would be my first guess, not really trying to say what is happening just that a common thing is for security appliances to block icmp packets and that may be doing wierd things
[03:49] <artyx> Joral: Tomrorow, i can "procure" a dual eepro 1000 pci-e ..
[03:49] <Bashing-om> Joral: Remain on 14.04 ?? It is a LTS release and had support 'til April 2019 and has the kernel and X stack that AMD continues to support . Do not opt in for HWE !
[03:50] <artyx> Joral: I get it .. Theres no appliances in-lan ... Just two 8 port netgear gigabits and a pfsense box on the other side ... but it doesnt have any kind of rule to prevent ping floods (actually i have icmp enabled across all interfaces, lan, wan, and dmz from anywhere to anywhere)
[03:50] <artyx> it just works, then stops working, then works again
[03:50] <Joral> artyx, I don't think your looking at an issue with the machine since you stated that it works without the bridge installed it sounds to me like a bridge config issue
[03:51] <artyx> Joral: The br0 device ... like for kvm setup
[03:52] <Joral> Bashing-om, that is a short term solution but if there is not going to be support for opencl in the future I am looking for a more permanent solution
[03:52] <artyx> bridge_ports enp6s0 ^M bridge_stp off ^M bridge_fd 0^M bridge_maxwait 0
[03:52] <artyx> i dont believe any of those options enable intrusion handling
[03:53] <Joral> artyx, I thought you were saying with the physical bridge installed it causes the issue, I'm not sure why you would have a virtual bridge device and a physical bridge device
[03:55] <artyx> Joral: Physically, it (the ubuntu install) is a computer connected to an ethernet switch, connecting to another ethernet switch, which connects to another computer ... I am trying to set up this ubuntu machine as a KVM host (for virtualization) ...one of the requisites is that you set up the device "bridge" as your network interface to allow the guests to communicate on the wire
[03:55] <Joral> Bashing-om, my ideal solution here would be for the open source driver to offer support for opencl and then it wouldn't be an issue.  Also I have already updated and am looking at a clean install either way so as much as I love ubuntu I am attempting to determine what makes the most sense in the future
[03:55] <Bashing-om> Joral:  I am not high enough up on the stack to have any idea of what AMD is going to do . The report is that AMD is throwing full support to open source. We will just have to wait and see what develops . Even the new amdgpu driver from AMD is based on the open source work .
[03:56] <tpw_rules> most annoying part about webm as gif
[03:56] <tpw_rules> when they appear i can hear the amplifier switch on in my laptop to play the silent audio and there's a new slight hiss
[03:57] <tpw_rules> oops i'm sorry that was totally the wrong channel
[03:57] <Joral> Bashing-om, yes but the new amdgpu-pro driver only supports the "new" amd hardware which means that my apu is not supported on the new driver framework and the old driver is no longer supported by ubuntu which is instead relying on the open source radeon driver that does not provide opencl support for the device.
[04:01] <Joral> artyx, can you give me the link to the walkthrough your trying to follow so I can get a better idea of whats going on?
[04:01] <NetworkingPro> Anyone know nginx well? The Nginx chan is dead.
[04:02] <amazoniantoad> I'm trying to create macros and control my cursor using my playstation controller. I installed ds4drv but I don't really know where to go from here. Does anyone know what I should do?
[04:04] <Bashing-om> Joral: Seaching my knowledge base .. work is in progress to backport support for some older cards . let me see what I can find .
[04:10] <Bashing-om> Joral: Does this help ?  "Development of the AMDGPU driver is now pushing back the support to earlier GCN versions -- back to GCN 1.0, which will provide support to HD 7000 series GPUs and later. " .
[04:13] <remote> can you do SSL cert pinning for apt-get ?
[04:15] <Joral> Bashing-om, had to double check the model, looks like the apu registers as a HD 7600G so yes that would work, did it give a timeline of release by chance?
[04:18] <nop32> moin
[04:19] <remote> nop32: can you help?
[04:20] <nop32> noch nicht, bin eben wach geworden :) .. sorry, i speak german
[04:20] <doge-doge> hey guys does anyone know how to get rid of "network" in the side pane window in caja, mate edition?
[04:20] <remote> k
[04:21] <remote> doge-doge: use a tiling tabbed window manager
[04:21] <doge-doge> my window manager right now is marco+compton
[04:22] <doge-doge> not really interested in compiz
[04:23] <remote> which other window manager have you tried?
[04:23] <doge-doge> compiz, lol
[04:23] <doge-doge> standard marco produces screen tearing
[04:25] <doge-doge> "unable to mount windows network", why is this even on here
[04:25] <Bashing-om> Joral: Nope ... I do not know who to ping at to find any update . QIII on ubuntuforums.org is our PR person in relation to AMD .
[04:26] <doge-doge> "sudo rm network:///" should I try that?
[04:26] <johnc4510> i shouldn't think so
[04:32] <Joral> Bashing-om, the ubuntu forum is showing experimental support for my card, just installed the amdgpu driver, waiting on an update and then the moment of truth lol
[04:37] <Bashing-om> Joral: Wow .. waiting on you to add to my knowkedge base :)
[04:38] <OerHeks> Joral, what forumpost? as http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/AMD-Radeon-GPU-PRO-Linux-Beta-Driver%E2%80%93Release-Notes.aspx does not mention your card
[04:40] <Joral> OerHeks, not sure just closed the page, don't think that was it but either way i figured it was worth a try
[04:41] <Joral> OerHeks, that was not the post. the one I saw was a ubuntu forums post discussing the amdgpu driver and not the amdgpu-pro driver
[04:42] <OerHeks> amdgpu/amdgpu-pro, the same.
[04:43] <Joral> OerHeks, yes and no, amdgpu == open source , amdgpu-pro == proprietary
[04:48] <Joral> OerHeks, this is the post I was reading, http://askubuntu.com/questions/756258/which-graphics-cards-are-supported-by-the-new-amdgpu-driver-in-ubuntu-16-04 , looks like support needs to be compiled into the kernel for the experimental support to work
[04:51] <Peppernrino> cd /var/cache/apt/archives && sudo dpkg -i cuda-repo-ubuntu1404_7.5-18_amd64.deb
[04:51] <Peppernrino> no dice. :\
[04:53] <Bashing-om> Peppernrino: " ls -al /var/cache/apt/archives/cuda-repo-ubuntu1404_7.5-18_amd64.deb ' . Does the .deb exist ?
[04:54] <Peppernrino> probably not.
[04:55] <Peppernrino> i'm trying to download and install it.
[04:55] <Joral> Bashing-om, well no dice with the amdgpu driver, but at least I know that it is going to get support eventually so since it is installed already I will eventually reboot after an update and be magically surprised that opencl works again
[04:55] <Peppernrino> instructions on website for cuda are pretty awesome. :P
[04:55] <Joral> next question, is there a tool similar to gparted that supports resizing encrypted partitions?
[05:02] <Bashing-om> Joral: Hey, it could happen, just do not hold yoor breath too long .
[05:04] <Peppernrino> lspci | grep -i nvidia
[05:04] <Peppernrino> shows my card. :)
[05:05] <Peppernrino> it's a problem with boinc seeing it in /var/lib/boinc_client
[05:05] <WhiteWhale> does anyone here have experience using airodump-ng?
[05:05] <Joral> Bashing-om, to my knowledge none of the apus are built around the r9 arch so I can't imagine amd alienating an entire subset of its user base with this decision.  Either the new driver will need to fill in the gap between radeon and the newer archs or radeon will have to support opencl like fglrx did.  Either way there will be a solution, just a matter of seeing how the politics play out lol
[05:06] <Joral> WhiteWhale, some experience, whats up?
[05:06] <WhiteWhale> it's not showing any clients, just access points
[05:07] <Bashing-om> Joral: Agreed . it will work out .. just when and how is the only questions .
[05:07] <Joral> WhiteWhale, did you create a monitor device using airmon?
[05:07] <WhiteWhale> all the forum posts i've looked up for the most recent version have people mentioning the problem but no fixes suggested
[05:07] <WhiteWhale> i did
[05:07] <Joral> are you pointing airodump to mon0 instead of wlan0?
[05:08] <WhiteWhale> yeah
[05:08] <Joral> ok, covering the basics first lol, give me a second to think about it
[05:12] <WhiteWhale> oh i ran update upgrade dist-upgrade and full-upgrade like some of the posts suggested
[05:12] <Joral> WhiteWhale, did you define a channel in airmon or are you controlling the channel through airodump?
[05:13] <WhiteWhale> i tried defining the channel and not and after 10 minutes it still wasn't detecting any of my devices
[05:15] <Joral> WhiteWhale, what does the network look like? wireless G only, or is this a dual band network?
[05:15] <WhiteWhale> dual band
[05:16] <Joral> WhiteWhale, ok, the help page of airodump-ng states that by default it only hops on 2.4GHz channels, try using the --band ag flag
[05:16] <Joral> that is "--band ag"
[05:21] <Joral> WhiteWhale, another trick that I learned is that you can use an analysis tool such as wireshark to analyze the pcap file while airodump is writing to it.  This allows you to perform you analysis without ever stopping the capture
[05:21] <WhiteWhale> does it matter that i'm in kali instead of ubuntu?  (the kali channel is dead)
[05:21] <Joral> WhiteWhale, not to me but why don't you pm me to move this out of the ubuntu channel then
[05:27] <slingamn> i'm running 16.04 server and i'm having trouble preventing eth0 from getting an EUI64 ipv6 address
[05:27] <slingamn> i have `net.ipv6.conf.default.use_tempaddr = 2` and `net.ipv6.conf.all.use_tempaddr = 2` in a /etc/sysctl.d file, but it looks like the interface comes up before those are processed?
[05:28] <slingamn> after boot, use_tempaddr is set to 2 everywhere except eth0, which has a 0
[05:34] <simpsonc> Hi, is there anyone that is familiar with the i915 video driver issues with 16.04? I've attempted the fix at https://aboutsimon.com/blog/2016/07/20/Ubuntu-16.04-external-monitor-flickering-and-turning-off-on-intel-i915.html which did not correct the issue.
[05:42] <Peppernrino> alright. news on the nvidia driver problem.
[05:42] <sonu_nk> hi there.. can i ask htaceess issue here
[05:43] <Peppernrino> installed .deb package fine. did sudo apt-get install cuda, says i am missing dependencies
[05:43] <Peppernrino> libcheese-gtk23 licheese7...
[05:43] <Peppernrino> anybody familiar with this problem?
[05:45] <massmc> Pepper did you try "apt-get -f install" ?
[05:45] <simpsonc> sonu_nk: you may have more success in the #httpd channel
[05:46] <OerHeks> Peppernrino, you need to do a lot before and after install, http://askubuntu.com/questions/672047/anyone-has-successfully-installed-cuda-7-5-on-ubuntu-14-04-3-lts-x86-64
[05:47] <sonu_nk> simpsonc: they are not gicing any ans
[05:48] <simpsonc> sonu_nk: send you a pm
[05:50] <sonu_nk>  http://pastebin.com/zZ1ytkh4 here my htaccess. i am rewriting my url with htaccess with this " RewriteRule ^([0-9a-zA-Z-]+) /resume.php?id=$1 [QSA,L] " but it is strange working with http://mywebsite.com/cv/naresh and also with http://mywebsite.com/naresh and anything i am adding before " naresh " .. how to fix ?  i strickly want this url only  http://mywebsite.com/naresh for RewriteRule ^([0-9a-zA-Z-]+) /resume.php?id=$1 [QSA,L]
[05:58] <maum> hello
[05:59] <sonu_nk> maum: hi can you help me to fix htaccess issue ?
[06:01] <maum> sonu_nk: what is the problem?
[06:09] <AnonymousLoyalis> i have question
[06:09] <AnonymousLoyalis> how to change nick before you join? like it happen automatically?
[06:10] <AnonymousLoyalis> actually i got it
[06:14] <Guest59445> ....
[06:14] <maum> Does someone know about git error? ==>error: RPC failed; result=22, HTTP code = 404
[06:21] <Peppernrino> sudo apt-get install libglew-dev libcheese7 libcheese-gtk23 libclutter-gst-2.0-0 libcogl15 libclutter-gtk-1.0-0 libclutter-1.0-0
[06:21] <Peppernrino> gets rid of libcheese error for cuda... but now i have unmet dependencies for cuda 7.5 (= 7.5-18)....
[06:22] <Peppernrino> so close!!!!
[06:22] <tanuki> I'm still running Server 14.04, and now I'm getting a login message that "WARNING: Security updates for your current Hardware Enablement Stack ended on 2016-08-04". If I upgrade to the current HES, will that screw up upgrading to 16.04 later?
[06:22] <Blue1> It won't let me upgrade the HES -- so I ignored the error.
[06:28] <tanuki> The package linux-lts-xenial-tools doesn't seem to exist in 14.04, despite apt-get recommending it...
[06:37] <OlofL> I have a ubuntu VM. I increased disk size in hypervisor. How do I EXTEND partition?
[06:38] <ducasse> OlofL: boot a live image in the vm, resize partition and file system.
[06:38] <janat08> I can't create or paste into etc/init.d
[06:38] <janat08> although im root
[06:38] <janat08> *im suppose to have root access
[06:39] <elias_a> janat08: Are you using sudo?
[06:40] <OlofL> ducasse: yeah I tried to boot ubuntu live cd, using gparted, but no cigarr. it was locked. I could press "deactivate" on partitions, but it still wouldnt let me extend my partition
[06:40] <janat08> im not using terminal
[06:40] <ducasse> tanuki: it won't screw up an upgrade.  maybe you need the linux-tools-generic-lts-xenial package instead?
[06:40] <janat08> i was guessing that's a problem, any way to stray away from terminal
[06:41] <Blue1> terminal is part and parcel to linux
[06:41] <ducasse> OlofL: is the root fs mounted?
[06:41] <janat08> how to move a file then
[06:41] <janat08> what's the cmd
[06:41] <Blue1> sudo cp source destination
[06:41] <OlofL> ducasse: lvm
[06:41] <janat08> ty
[06:42] <ducasse> OlofL: is it mounted? as in 'in use'?
[06:43] <OlofL> ducasse: df -T shows /dev/mapper/ubiquiti--vg-root ext4       6597808 4540800   1698816  73% /
[06:44] <OlofL> ducasse: yes, right now I'm in the OS. its the OS disc. Im looking for a good live cd that can resize disks
[06:44] <ducasse> OlofL: you are booted from the vm disk, you need to boot a live image to resize it. you can't resize a disk you are currently using.'
[06:44] <ducasse> OlofL: the ubuntu installer will work.
[06:44] <OlofL> ducasse: sure any live image u can recommend? as I said I did boot form ubuntu installer and gparted did not work
[06:45] <ducasse> OlofL: it probably didn't work because it had mounted the root fs. just unmount it first, then resize.
[06:49] <OlofL> ducasse: unmounted it.
[06:50] <OlofL> ducasse: gparted says the partition is lvm2 pv anyways
[06:51] <ducasse> OlofL: gparted won't resize it?
[06:51] <OlofL> ducasse: no
[06:52] <hateball> you cant resize LVM using gparted
[06:52] <OlofL> http://superuser.com/questions/917988/gparted-cannot-resize-extended-or-lvm-partition this legit?
[06:53] <OlofL> as I said, I'm also using a VM. I also have locked drives with same filesystem
[06:53] <hateball> OlofL: this might be relevant to you http://blog.stastnarodina.com/honza-en/spot/howto-add-disk-to-vmware-ubuntu-guest-without-reboot-using-lvm/
[06:54] <hateball> basically, read up on vgextend and lvextend
[06:55] <vinamra> Hello everyone. I was trying to install jhbuild but Ubuntu was showing errors. On trying apt-file --verbose search wavpack.pc, I see that apt-file is unable to see wavpack.pc, which is a package included in Ubuntu 16.04!. This is the output i am getting http://pastebin.com/WzXVcvVb
[07:01] <reisei> hi, all! What's the proper way of updating ubuntu packages if I have a lot of servers? Should I use Ansible or similar for that purpose?
[07:02] <janat08> so huge pages in memory management would pretty much waste a couple of MB right>
[07:02] <hateball> reisei: whatever you're comfortable with, ansible, puppet, scripted upgrades with cron, etc etc
[07:02] <janat08> because it appears to have gone the other way around for me with extra 200 mb needed to run ubuntu
[07:02] <ducasse> vinamra: i get a hit on the package libwavpack-dev
[07:03] <reisei> hateball: what's the best solution? :) And how can I deal with kernel upgrades?
[07:04] <OlofL> hateball: yes this worked http://superuser.com/questions/917988/gparted-cannot-resize-extended-or-lvm-partition
[07:05] <hateball> OlofL: ah, it had lvextend instructions further down
[07:05] <hateball> anyhow, the nice thing about LVM is you dont have to liveboot gparted to do the resizing, as per the link I gave you
[07:06] <hateball> just extend vg/lv and then resize2fs, done
[07:06] <vinamra> @ducasse What should i do to resolve the problem?
[07:06] <hateball> reisei: best is what you are comfortable with
[07:09] <ducasse> vinamra: which problem? maybe apt-file's cache is out of date or corrupt, try 'apt-file update'. but the package can still be installed without doing that.
[07:11] <tanuki> ducasse: What *are* kernel tools, anyway?
[07:12] <tanuki> ducasse: And apparently one or the other of linux-signed-image-generic-lts-xenial or linux-signed-generic-lts-xenial has a bug in the package definition, because it definitely tells apt-get to suggest linux-lts-xenial-tools
[07:13] <tanuki> (or maybe one of their dependencies)
[07:15] <k1l> tanuki: linux-image-xxx-generic suggests the linux-lts-xenial-tools
[07:15] <filsuf> hallo all ... happy to have installed ubuntu here!!
[07:16] <filsuf> ok ... but my grub doesnt show Windows 10
[07:16] <filsuf> apparently grub fails to recognize the better OS ;( ... now, what to do folks?
[07:19] <zetheroo> whats the command to get a list of all manually installed packages (not packages automatically pulled in as dependencies)?
[07:19] <k1l> tanuki: can you show the exact full output from installing the HES on a pastebin?
[07:19] <tanuki> k1l: Not easily :-/
[07:23] <OerHeks> apt-mark showmanual
[07:23] <OerHeks> zetheroo ^^
[07:24] <zetheroo> OerHeks: thanks!
[07:24] <ncm_> is there a way to install the old amd graphics drivers on 16.04 I have an apu and its slow
[07:24] <k1l> ncm_: no. amd is not making it anymore
[07:24] <OerHeks> not sure it is correct, it gives me a lot more
[07:25] <ufk> how do i disable iproute2 firewall ?
[07:25] <cfhowlett> !ufw | ufk
[07:25] <ncm_> k1l: thanks who is over the open source drives will there be support for chips that are not currently suppored?
[07:26] <tanuki> Does Ubuntu have an equivalent of MacPorts' "port echo leaves"/"port uninstall leaves"? (They show/remove packages that were installed as dependencies but are no longer needed.)
[07:26] <hateball> ncm_: AMD makes the drivers, they go into the kernel. So newer kernel, newer drivers
[07:26] <ncm_> thanks
[07:27] <hateball> ncm_: but you also need newer mesa and xorg, so just grabbing a mainline kernel wont usually help much
[07:27] <cfhowlett> tanuki, apt update will display no longer needed packages and recommend their removal
[07:27] <zetheroo> is 12.04 still getting security updates?
[07:27] <hateball> ncm_: so basically "it will be better in 16.10"
[07:27] <ncm_> ill be stuck on 14 till they figure it out cant use the os if their is no hardware accelleration and everything is jittery
[07:28] <alkisg> Hi, can someone recommend an open source python IDE+debugger, that has support for setting breakpoints by just clicking a line in its code editor, and allows for graphically viewing the variable values etc?
[07:29] <cfhowlett> !ide | alkisg
[07:30] <alkisg> cfhowlett: I don't think gedit has support for breakpoints in python. Could someone give a specific recommendation? I also read https://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonDebuggingTools, but that's what recommendations are for, so that I can avoid trying out all of them in order to find one that satisfies my requirements...
[07:38] <biotim> alkisg: Spyder might be good for your use case https://wiki.python.org/moin/IntegratedDevelopmentEnvironments
[07:39] <alkisg> biotim: thank you very much, trying it...
[07:42] <filsuf> halo halo
[07:42] <yennifer> Halo
[07:42] <filsuf> what's the best mp3 player now?
[07:42] <filsuf> xmms is gone huh ;(
[07:42] <yennifer> its called yomom
[07:43] <cfhowlett> filsuf, there is no "bests" of anything.  your preferences, your choice
[07:43] <filsuf> you mean 'your mom"?
[07:43] <filsuf> I like my dad
[07:52] <tjbiddle> Hi all. Could really use your help. I’m going on day 3 of banging my head on the wall without success here. Trying to setup a NAT server so that another server can have internet access. The NAT server has full Internet access, the client server has DNS working - but ping, curl, etc. will not work. All ports are wide open for internet and intranet from my hosting providers security group ACLs. Here’s some debug information on both machines -
[07:52] <tjbiddle> https://gist.github.com/thomasbiddle/ef9ad16d33df722f5061106042c2d2ae
[07:52] <tjbiddle> Would really appreciate some guidance - I’m losing hair
[07:52] <cfhowlett> tjbiddle, perhaps #ubuntu-server or #networking might be better?
[07:53] <tjbiddle> cfhowlett: Just asked in networking as well. I’ll x-post to #ubuntu-server too, but still have found help in #ubuntu in the past as well - so crossing fingers here too
[07:53] <tjbiddle> Thanks
[07:53] <cfhowlett> best of luck!
[07:59] <rhumbot> Hi all, I am looking for a software solution for a mobile webserver. The ones I had only worked for Windows? Do you have any suggestions?
[08:04] <atmosx> hello, is there any reliable way to know why apache2 is installed? Probably some php module is auto-installing apache
[08:05] <Ben64> atmosx: aptitude why apache2
[08:07] <mgor> atmosx, or sudo apt-cache rdepends --installed <package>
[08:07] <cart_Man> Hi everyone.. I can not seem to install device-tree-overlay in ubuntu using apt-get. IS there some special package name for it?
[08:07] <cart_Man> I used " apt-get install device-tree-overlay"
[08:07] <cart_Man> did not work
[08:07] <mjayk> what did it say cart_Man
[08:09] <Peppernrino> any security risks in using 14.04.2?
[08:10] <simpsonc> Hi, is there anyone that is familiar with the i915 video driver issues with 16.04? I've attempted the fix at https://aboutsimon.com/blog/2016/07/20/Ubuntu-16.04-external-monitor-flickering-and-turning-off-on-intel-i915.html which did not correct the issue.
[08:10] <cfhowlett> Peppernrino, as opposed to the current 14.04.5 ??
[08:10] <Peppernrino> seems cuda is a little more forgiving <=14.04.2
[08:10] <Peppernrino> yeah
[08:10] <Peppernrino> entered: sudo apt-get install libglew-dev libcheese7 libcheese-gtk23 libclutter-gst-2.0-0 libcogl15 libclutter-gtk-1.0-0 libclutter-1.0-0
[08:10] <Peppernrino> and: sudo apt-get install cuda
[08:10] <Peppernrino> says cuda needs cuda...
[08:10] <Peppernrino> lol
[08:11] <Peppernrino> could it be because i installed xorg-edgers?
[08:11] <Peppernrino> i saw on a forum that it causes problems occasionally.
[08:12] <mgor> simpsonc, have you tried without psr? I had flickering issues with it enabled
[08:12] <Peppernrino> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-control-center/+bug/1428972
[08:13] <simpsonc> mgor: no, I haven't...I'm not entirely certain on how to disable it
[08:14] <Peppernrino> https://devtalk.nvidia.com/default/topic/959599/depends-cuda-7-5-7-5-18-but-it-is-not-going-to-be-installed/
[08:14] <Peppernrino> this is exactly what is happening to me.
[08:15] <Peppernrino> install cuda says needs cuda-7-5, instal cuda-7-5 says needs nvidia-drivers... etc
[08:16] <mgor> simonf, do you have /etc/modprobe.d/i915.conf? if so remove enable_psr, also check /etc/default/grub and make sure you don't have i915.enable_psr in any of the GRUB_CMDLINE... (when changing /etc/default/grub, don't forget to run sudo update-grub)
[08:16] <cart_Man> mjayk: Well it just said : " E:Unable to locate package device-tree-overlay
[08:17] <simpsonc> less /etc/modprobe.d/i915.comf
[08:17] <simpsonc> ach...sorry
[08:19] <simpsonc> mgor: I recently had to re-install the OS due to issue with attempting to upgrade the kernel, so I'm back to 4.4.0-36...there is also no reference at all to psr in /etc/default/grub:
[08:19] <simpsonc> simpsonc@simpsonc-nbk:~$ sudo grep psr /etc/default/grub
[08:20] <simpsonc> simpsonc@simpsonc-nbk:~$is there another way to check if it's enabled?
[08:20] <Peppernrino> error: not a command
[08:20] <mgor> simpsonc, shouldn't be enabled unless you have explicitly enabled it
[08:21] <simpsonc> ah ok...then that doesn't appear to be the issue...it's definitely something specific with 16.04 since it only presented itself after I upgraded from 15
[08:32] <k1l> Peppernrino: please put all the apt commands and output on paste.ubuntu.com and show the link here
[08:35] <EriC^^> how can i convert a .mp4 to a h.263 mp4 using avconv or ffmpeg?
[08:35] <cfhowlett> EriC^^, man ffmpeg has the details
[08:36] <EriC^^> cfhowlett: searched for 263 couldn't find anything
[08:37] <k1l> EriC^^: "ffmpeg can't pack h263 stream in mp4 container" http://arthurcuth.blogspot.de/2012/05/ffmpeg-and-h263.html
[08:37] <zetheroo> according to this ' The production Launchpad.net site runs on Ubuntu 12.04 LTS' - is this still true? https://dev.launchpad.net/Running
[08:37] <EriC^^> k1l: oh, thanks
[08:38] <EriC^^> anybody know an idea how i could get this done? ultimately i want to convert a video to something supported on android
[08:38] <gattoinvestito> which is the best irc client for terminal? The simpler no scripting etc ^^
[08:38] <EriC^^> gattoinvestito: irssi and weechat are nice
[08:38] <k1l> EriC^^: seems like h263 and mp4 dont match at all
[08:39] <xangua> EriC^^: why don't just install VLC?
[08:39] <xangua> On Android
[08:39] <gattoinvestito> and something with scrollbars? does it exist for terminal?
[08:40] <k1l> zetheroo: i guess the gusy at #launchpad will know
[08:40] <k1l> *-y
[08:40] <zetheroo> k1l: ok
[08:40] <gattoinvestito> Eric something with scrollbars for terminal? So i can look back and forward without writing commands?
[08:40] <EriC^^> xangua: i'll do that but i also need to convert them
[08:41] <xangua> gattoinvestito: don't hexchat and other IRC clients have a black kinda terminal themes?
[08:41] <cfhowlett> xangua, hexchat does. the old xchat themes work
[08:41] <k1l> gattoinvestito: scrollbars on cli?
[08:41] <gattoinvestito> yes
[08:42] <gattoinvestito> a terminal ui ^^
[08:42] <EriC^^> gattoinvestito: you can scroll up and down with pageup i think
[08:43] <k1l> gattoinvestito: what do you need scrollbars for? irssi supports scrolling with page-up and -down anyways
[08:43] <gattoinvestito> ok I AM IDIOT it works
[08:43] <gattoinvestito> tank k1l
[08:43] <gattoinvestito> thanks
[08:43] <EriC^^> these are the list of supported formats for android, http://onebestsoft.com/play-mp4-on-android/ , if anybody has an idea how to convert to one of them, let me know, thanks
[08:44] <Dugroin> hello guys, I have a little question for you.. I can't have phpmyadmin running on my ubuntu.. I get 'The mbstring extension is missing. Please check your PHP configuration.' error.. does anyone have an idea ?
[08:44] <cfhowlett> EriC^^, ?  idea?  ffmpeg -i foo.mp4 foo.webm or .mkv           done
[08:45] <k1l> EriC^^: h264 and mp4 should work
[08:45] <EriC^^> cfhowlett: i tried foo.mkv it didn't work
[08:45] <maum> error: RPC failed; result=22, HTTP code = 404 fatal: The remote end hung up unexpectedly
[08:45] <maum> how can I solve this git problem?
[08:45] <EriC^^> k1l: the original file says h264 but it doesn't seem to work, android says unsupported format
[08:46] <Peppernrino> man. i pressed the up button so many times...
[08:47] <EriC^^> cfhowlett: i'll give .webm a shot
[08:49] <k1l> EriC^^: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/14171826/converting-video-for-android-using-ffmpeg
[08:49] <Guest91838> ubuntu is awesome
[08:49] <k1l> EriC^^: there are some issues with android playing files. this link got a working command
[08:50] <EriC^^> k1l: thanks! :)
[08:56] <Dugroin>  hello guys, I have a little question for you.. I can't have phpmyadmin running on my ubuntu.. I get 'The mbstring extension is missing. Please check your PHP configuration.' error.. does anyone have an idea ?
[08:57] <cfhowlett> EriC^^, webm works on Android
[08:57] <EriC^^> cfhowlett: cool thanks
[08:57] <alkisg> Dugroin: apt search mbstring ==> and install the packages that you need
[08:57] <alkisg> e.g. php-mbstring
[08:58] <Dugroin> alkisg, done already.. no success :-(
[08:58] <alkisg> Dugroin: dpkg -l '*mbs*' | grep ^ii
[08:59] <alkisg> What's the output of that?
[08:59] <Dugroin> ii  php-mbstring    1:7.0+44+deb.sury.org~xenial+1 all          MBSTRING module for PHP [default]
[08:59] <Dugroin> ii  php7.0-mbstring 7.0.10-2+deb.sury.org~xenial+1 amd64        MBSTRING module for PHP
[09:00] <alkisg> Dugroin: you're using weird PPAs etc, better stop using them and use the stock versions instead
[09:00] <alkisg> ~# dpkg -l '*mbs*' | grep ^ii
[09:00] <alkisg> ii  php7.0-mbstring    7.0.4-7ubuntu2.1 amd64        MBSTRING module for PHP
[09:00] <alkisg> With that ^, phpmyadmin works fine here
[09:00] <Dugroin> how could I sort out these PPAs ?
[09:00] <Dugroin>  :-()
[09:00] <k1l> ppa-purge
[09:00] <Dugroin> just 'ppa-purge' ?
[09:01] <k1l> is php-gettext installed?
[09:01] <Dugroin> yes k1
[09:01] <k1l> !ppa-purge | Dugroin
[09:02] <k1l> Dugroin: wait. did you restart the apache afterwards?
[09:02] <Dugroin> i did k1l
[09:02] <Dugroin> :-)
[09:03] <k1l> did you enable the mod with sudo phpenmod mbstring ?
[09:03] <Dugroin> not sure.. I'll try k1l
[09:03] <Dugroin> WARNING: Module mbstring ini file doesn't exist under /etc/php/5.6/mods-available
[09:03] <Dugroin> WARNING: Module mbstring ini file doesn't exist under /etc/php/5.6/mods-available
[09:04] <k1l> so you are using php5 still? thought you were on 16.04
[09:04] <Dugroin> I don't know k1l :-( I think php5 AND php7 are both installed :-(
[09:06] <k1l> not on an original ubuntu setup
[09:06] <Dugroin> :-( how could I sort this out :-( ?
[09:06] <adamicron> hi, is it normal for kmsg to be 0 bytes?
[09:07] <k1l> Dugroin: "dpkg -l | grep php | nc termbin.com 9999"
[09:07] <Dugroin> k1l: http://termbin.com/kxla
[09:08] <ph88> hey guys, how can i install this app on ubuntu gnome 16.04 ?  https://www.kde.org/applications/internet/krdc  i don't find it in Software
[09:08] <k1l> Dugroin: ah, you installed php5 manually from a ppa
[09:08] <Dugroin> I can get rid of it, if required :-)
[09:08] <k1l> Dugroin: do you want/need php5?
[09:09] <hateball> ph88: apt install krdc
[09:09] <Dugroin> k1l, I just need php :-) If php7 is better, let's go for it :-)
[09:09] <hateball> ph88: open terminal, type "sudo apt install krdc"
[09:10] <hateball> ph88: it depends on kde-runtime tho. seems a bit overkill if you normally run gnome. should be an RDP client for gnome surely
[09:10] <k1l> Dugroin: "apt-cache policy php5.6 | nc termbin.com 9999"
[09:11] <Dugroin> k1l, http://termbin.com/ij1f
[09:12] <someone235> Hi, I have a problem. When I plug out my headphones, I can't hear with the built in speakers. Is there a way to fix it without reboot?
[09:13] <k1l> Dugroin: "sudo ppa-purge ppa:ondrej/php"
[09:15] <Dugroin> k1l, PPA purged sucessfully :-)
[09:15] <k1l> restart apache now, see if it works
[09:16] <Dugroin> I try !
[09:18] <Dugroin> k1l, you are great ! 100000000000 thanks !
[09:19] <Guest82091> good morning, ubuntu!
[09:21] <adamicron> ok, I see it's normal to have a size of 0 in procfs http://www.tldp.org/LDP/Linux-Filesystem-Hierarchy/html/proc.html so my question becomes: should /proc/kmsg contain something at any given time?
[09:22] <adamicron> even a   sudo cat /proc/kmsg   produces no output on my 16.04
[09:22] <ph88> hateball, they are buggy, but i found a good one now: rdesktop
[09:27] <bhavesh> I don't understand why the pdf font looks so bad on Evince and Google Chrome/Firefox on Ubuntu, but looks quite fine on Windows with "Reader" app and other apps
[09:27] <bhavesh> how do I make the pdf look good?
[09:28] <bhavesh> http://imgur.com/a/QWujF
[09:29] <chandru_in> How does the mini.iso verify integrity of packages that is downloads? Does the iso contain the archive signing keys?
[09:34] <OerHeks> bhavesh, pic is removed
[09:35] <bhavesh> OerHeks: works for me?
[09:35] <OerHeks> chandru_in, yes, all iso's have the public key
[09:35] <chandru_in> Thanks OerHeks.
[09:36] <OerHeks> i see this http://imgur.com/a/4Exs5
[09:36] <OerHeks> if you cannot see that, then there is something wrong with imgur
[09:40] <bhavesh> OerHeks: http://i.imgur.com/i0hIlXd.png ?
[09:42] <OerHeks> bhavesh, that is not windows, nor linux...
[09:42] <bhavesh> OerHeks: lol I change it to mac osx theme, using xfce on Ubuntu 16.04 LTS
[09:42] <bhavesh> changed*
[09:44] <OerHeks> oh, the well know ruin-my-system-theme...
[09:45] <OerHeks> not a valid problem, if you ask me.
[09:46] <k1l> bhavesh: what is the issue?
[09:46] <atrlhvn> when I'm installing something from source, (./configure, make, etc) does it matter where the tarball is extracted?
[09:47] <k1l> bhavesh: make sure you got a proper matching font on your system
[09:48] <rangergord> Is there a way to prevent any given user program from freezing the UI when it goes wacko with CPU usage? I don't want to explicitly nice every program as I launch it, I want EVERY app running as my user, to have a nice/CPU cap level that prevents it from hanging the entire UI. So I can at least open a terminal and kill it when it goes haywire. How can I do that?
[09:49] <mgor> atrlhvn, doesn't really matter, but to follow the filesystem hierarchy standard, you should place it in /usr/local/src, https://wiki.debian.org/FilesystemHierarchyStandard
[09:50] <atrlhvn> mgor: so there is a standard place, but it will work even if its not there, right?
[09:50] <mgor> atrlhvn, correct
[09:50] <atrlhvn> mgor: and also the files should stay there, and not be deleted, right?
[09:51] <mgor> atrlhvn, depends on what you're building, some make files has the uninstall target, which could be useful if you want to uninstall something
[10:02] <Suzan> hey guys
[10:02] <Suzan> can anyone here help me with a wifi problem on ubuntu?
[10:03] <motaka2> hello in terminal my php version is 7 but in browser it is 5 and I need the 5 one to run in terminal. what should I do ?
[10:03] <atdprhs> Hi everyone, I have an issue mounting a usb shared drive (from my router) but for some reason it's not working, I have visited almost 50 links for today because of this and nothing helping
[10:03] <atdprhs> I'm using ubuntu 16.04
[10:03] <Ben64> motaka2: how do you determine what version of php is in a browser?
[10:03] <motaka2> Ben64: using phpinfo function
[10:04] <Ben64> that doesn't really make sense
[10:04] <motaka2> ben echo phpinfo();
[10:04] <Ben64> right, that's not in a browser
[10:04] <motaka2> Ben64: I check the result in chrome
[10:05] <k1l> motaka2: what ubuntu version is it?
[10:05] <motaka2> k1l: 1404
[10:06] <atdprhs> @bin64: can you please help me after you help motaka2, I'll appreciate it if you did...
[10:06] <k1l> motaka2: that ships php5.
[10:07] <Ben64> atdprhs: the way to get help in this channel is to describe your issue fully, with all relevant information. if someone can help, they will respond
[10:07] <motaka2> k1l: yes, but I just ran sudo apt-get update php , and this happened
[10:09] <k1l> motaka2: apt doesnt work with update and single pacakges.
[10:09] <motaka2> k1l: it was something like that
[10:09] <motaka2> how can I remove php 7 ?
[10:10] <tak_fate> apt-get remove >
[10:10] <tak_fate> ?
[10:11] <Ben64> motaka2: what is the output of "php --version | head -n1"
[10:11] <k1l> motaka2: dpkg -l | grep php | nc termbin.com 9999
[10:11] <Ben64> or that
[10:11] <k1l> motaka2: please show the outputurl
[10:11] <tak_fate> ..
[10:11] <OerHeks> very strange motaka >  oer@oerworkstation:~$  sudo apt-get update php  E: The update command takes no arguments
[10:13] <atdprhs> Ok, thanks Ben64, I have netgear D7800, and I have attached my USB external HDD to it, and it's available for access via Windows: \\readyshare\myhdd, ubuntu:smb://readyshare/myhdd, now I have installed cifs-utils, and modified my fstab: //readyshare/myhdd /media/WorkDrive cifs workgroup=workgroup,iocharset=utf8,gid=1000,uid=1000,file_mode=0777,dir_mode=0777 0 0 I have obtained my uid and gid via id myusername, what I'm getting is either "mount
[10:13] <atdprhs> error: could not resolve address for readyshare: Unknown error" or "mount: unknown filesystem type 'smbfs'" if I used "smb" in the url, I have followed so many different articles and blogs, answers, including this >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[10:14] <Ben64> on that link you posted, it says to use cifs
[10:14] <Ben64> and use the ip instead of readyshare
[10:18] <atdprhs> @bin64 There is no ip available
[10:19] <atdprhs> I tried to use the ip, but it just doesn't work
[10:19] <atdprhs> 192.168.1.1 (router's ip)
[10:19] <k1l> motaka2: ?
[10:19] <atdprhs> pinging readyshare from windows gives me 192.168.1.1
[10:19] <atdprhs> but I have to use the name instead of the IP Address
[10:20] <atdprhs> also, I use cifs
[10:20] <k1l> look at the  routers website what ip it gets? it doesnt work without ips
[10:20] <atdprhs> @k1| that's waht I thought too, but when I accessed the router, what I think is that maybe the router resolves the name "readyshare" and then responds with the directories
[10:20] <atdprhs> or the shared usb sticks
[10:22] <k1l> ah wait, that is running on the router? so its the routers ip. or the router provides another ip for its share.
[10:22] <atdprhs> No other ip for the share
[10:23] <atdprhs> for the router, if I want to login to it's administration, I would use routerlogin.net (this is 192.168.1.1), for me to access the shared folders (devices), //readyshare
[10:23] <atdprhs> both of them are using 192.168.1.1
[10:25] <atdprhs> @k1 or Ben64, if you guys are interested, I can share my environment and let you see
[10:26] <k1l> smb://192.168.1.1/USB_Folder    ( maybe smb://192.168.1.1/myhdd in your case) should work in nautilus
[10:26] <atdprhs> I tried these
[10:26] <atdprhs> In my nautilus, they work
[10:27] <k1l> sudo mount -t cifs //192.168.1.1/myhdd /media/somefolder -o username=routerlogin,password=routerpwd
[10:27] <Skizu> When I do netstat -l It appears like it isn't listening on *:https is theresome magic I need to enable?
[10:30] <atdprhs> but not the ip address
[10:30] <atdprhs> only readyshare
[10:30] <atdprhs> so in nautilus, smb://readyshare/myhdd works <> smb://192.168.1.1/myhdd doesn't work <> fstab //readyshare/myhdd cannot resolve <> fstab //192.168.1.1/myhdd it ask for password then error (doesn't work, even if I give it my username and password)
[10:31] <k1l> does the terminal command i gave you work? make sure to adjust the /media/folder to an existing one and the router user and password
[10:33] <atdprhs> [20:26] <atdprhs> I tried these
[10:33] <atdprhs> [20:26] <-- jackbrown (~se@unaffiliated/jackbrown) has left this server (Ping timeout: 276 seconds).
[10:33] <atdprhs> [20:26] <-- pingaan (~tjohej@m176-68-40-84.cust.tele2.se) has left this server (Ping timeout: 244 seconds).
[10:33] <atdprhs> [20:26] <atdprhs> In my nautilus, they work
[10:33] <atdprhs> [20:27] <atdprhs> but not the ip address
[10:33] <atdprhs> [20:27] <atdprhs> only readyshare
[10:34] <atdprhs> Sorry, I got disconneted
[10:35] <OerHeks> atdprhs, no, you got devoiced, don't paste like that in the channel
[10:35] <OerHeks> !paste
[10:36] <atdprhs> @OerHeks, yes, that after I got connected back and retries to resend my message
[10:36] <atdprhs> messages
[10:36] <atdprhs> Well, Good news everyone, it worked!!!!
[10:37] <atdprhs> @k1| I kept trying with the ip address in the smb in nautilus and no idea how but it worked just now
[10:37] <atdprhs> put it in my fstab and it didn't give me any error
[10:37] <atdprhs> it's mounted successfully, thanks fstab
[10:51] <weiner-wagger> To unlock a hidden video game embedded in Linux, run this bash command:   :(){ :|:& };:    (exact video game may vary by platform, distro and version)
[10:51] <k1l> !danger
[10:54] <atdprhs> have anyone configured skype for business on Ubuntu?
[10:55] <Exodious> my skype works fine
[10:55] <Exodious> what's your problem?
[10:55] <maxadamo> Exodious, not skype for business
[10:55] <atdprhs> Yes, I'm using the skype.com, I am talking about Skype 4 Busines
[10:55] <atdprhs> Yes, I'm using the skype.com, I am talking about Skype 4 Business
[10:56] <Exodious> btw anyone knows how to see what kind of ram i am using? i want to buy 8gb and ditch 4gb that i am using atm ?
[10:56] <Exodious> hm i have normal skype installed so i guess i can't help you
[10:56] <atdprhs> maxadamo: Have you managed to run Skype for Business or user 3rd party app?
[10:57] <atdprhs> Exodious: That's alright, thanks for trying :-)
[10:57] <maxadamo> atdprhs, I am trying too :(
[10:57] <atdprhs> LOL
[10:57] <maxadamo> but I believe we have to use it on Android or iphone
[10:58] <atdprhs> Yes, that's what I'm doing, what I additionally did also, is that when I'm in the office, I just simply launch VBox with Windows 10 Installed, 3D enabled Sound enabled, etc...
[10:58] <atdprhs> (I'm the only one in the office using Ubuntu)
[10:58] <maxadamo> there was Wync (now called Sky) some time ago, but I believe it only supports Lync, and not the new Skype
[10:59] <maxadamo> it might be worth asking these guys: https://tel.red/linux.php
[10:59] <atdprhs> Yes, I was just going to paste this url after googling :D
[11:00] <atdprhs> thanks a lot Maxadamo, let me try it out
[11:02] <maxadamo> atdprhs, bear in mind that the free version only allow free chat and 2 minutes calls
[11:04] <atdprhs> Yes, I have noticed
[11:07] <jelly> k1l: would you mind if I appropriated that !danger factoid
[11:08] <k1l> jelly: ?
[11:10] <jelly> k1l: for use in a different channel
[11:11] <Jeffool> Hey gang. New to using this, and am trying to toy around with a 16.04 server. Any preferred instructions for idiots on installing a desktop, getting VNC running, etc?
[11:11] <Shawn196|Duo> howdy
[11:11] <Jeffool> Found a few different tutorials, thought I'd get the opinion of real folks first.
[11:12] <Shawn196|Duo> Ubuntu 16.04 has experienced an internal error
[11:12] <Shawn196|Duo> is this normal?
[11:13] <atdprhs> @maxadamo: even though it's paid application but it just doesn't work
[11:13] <atdprhs> lol, needs troubleshootings
[11:14] <Shawn196|Duo> I hope i686 is a good port to be running on this laptop
[11:15] <Shawn196|Duo> xserver-xorg-core 2:1.18.3-1ubuntu2.3 has crashed
[11:15] <Shawn196|Duo> from a fresh install
[11:15] <Shawn196|Duo> reporting it
[11:22] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:31] <maxadamo> atdprhs, did you get it working? For me it only worked in the past, but now it does not work with the Office 365
[11:34] <atdprhs> maxadamo, no, it's not working, I tried all of the user agents including the internal/external service config
[11:34] <atdprhs> I'm trying to remember, when I sometimes login via skype 4 business using windows on a new machine, there used to be something that shows up next to my userid (not my domain name, but it was part of Office365, I'm trying to remember this)
[11:35] <atdprhs> maxadamo, based on this guy who contacted them http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/290916/log-in-to-skype-for-business-for-office-365-using-sky , there is a known bug with it
[11:36] <atdprhs> maxadamo, nothing also mentioned in their release notes/changelog for this bug
[11:37] <maxadamo> atdprhs, I contacted them, to understand if they are gonna add support to office 365, or if there is actually support, and we need to use some secret trick :)
[11:38] <maxadamo> I am in EU.... they are'll get back to me later
[11:40] <atdprhs> maxadamo, it's taking a while to sign in now, hold on for the big news :D
[11:41] <baash05> Hey guys/girls.. I'm still on the trail of my slow boot.
[11:41] <atdprhs> Assuming that I have too much contacts
[11:41] <atdprhs> maybe long chat histories
[11:41] <baash05> I've got another symptom.. The SD card reader does not work.
[11:41] <baash05> In so much as an inserted SD card does not register.
[11:42] <atdprhs> I need to reboot, I'll be back
[11:44] <Shawn196|Duo> howdy
[11:44] <Shawn196|Duo> will i386 packages work on i686?
[11:45] <k1l> Shawn196|Duo: its all 32bit, so yes.
[11:45] <joelio> Shawn196|Duo: yea, but could you be more specific? it's the same 32bit arch effectively..
[11:45] <k1l> Shawn196|Duo: if you just installed: why didnt you install 64bit OS?
[11:46] <Shawn196|Duo> because this is a 32-bit laptop
[11:46] <k1l> that old?
[11:46] <Shawn196|Duo> its a sony vaio with an intel centrino duo
[11:46] <joelio> that's 64bit
[11:46] <panina> Shawn196, what're you looking for?
[11:46] <Shawn196|Duo> ?
[11:46] <k1l> Shawn196|Duo: what cpu exactly?
[11:46] <joelio> I have a centrino duo, about 10 years old.. 64bit :)
[11:47] <Shawn196|Duo> 64-bit?!?
[11:47] <Shawn196|Duo> I only have 2GBs
[11:47] <k1l> Shawn196|Duo: ram doesnt have to do anything with 64bit.
[11:47] <joelio> amount of ram makes no difference, check your CPU arch flags
[11:47] <Shawn196|Duo> how do I do that?
[11:47] <joelio> cat /proc/cpuinfo
[11:47] <k1l> lscpu | nc termbin.com 9999
[11:47] <star> star
[11:47] <joelio> or that :)
[11:48] <atdprhs> maxadamo, I think Microsoft has updated their protocols, and this might have broken their login mechanism
[11:48] <panina> Well, the old recomendation was to use 32 bit with up to 2GB RAM, but it's no longer quite true.
[11:48] <panina> Nowadays, 32 bit OSes are being abandoned, so it's always wise to move to 64 bit if possible.
[11:48] <BluesKaj> 32 bit OSs are limited to 4G RAM usage
[11:48] <yourgg> Hello, my computer has crashed while I was upgrading from 14.04 to 16.04.1
[11:48] <atdprhs> maxadamo, Since when you contacted them
[11:49] <k1l> well no. its a false conclusion from the old "32bit can only handle up to 4gb ram" which isnt true anymore, too
[11:49] <joelio> BluesKaj: well, PAE, but a single process can only address 3.2GB ram
[11:49] <panina> yourgg that doesn't sound fantastic.
[11:49] <BluesKaj> joelio, how many users use PAE tho
[11:49] <joelio> aye, true.. just use 64bit! :)
[11:49] <BluesKaj> yup
[11:49] <panina> yourgg doesn't it boot anymore?
[11:49] <baash05> is there a way to test the IO sboard?
[11:49] <yourgg> Now The 14.04 does not work properly and the 16 not at all , help !
[11:50] <baash05> IO board?
[11:50] <Shawn196|Duo> lspsuhttp://termbin.com/qk9k
[11:50] <k1l> so people got that myth: <4gb = 32bit. >4gb 64bit. which is just false. there is no sense in using 32bit if tha hardware is 64bit capable
[11:50] <Shawn196|Duo> ah
[11:50] <k1l> Shawn196|Duo: the T7100 is a 64bit cpu
[11:50] <Shawn196|Duo> oh wow
[11:50] <panina> yourgg I'm trying to help. do you have two installs now?
[11:50] <Shawn196|Duo> I wonder if I have 32-bit or 64-bit
[11:51] <Shawn196|Duo> how do I determine this>
[11:51] <k1l> Shawn196|Duo: uname -a
[11:51] <Shawn196|Duo> 4.4.0-36-generic #55-Ubuntu SMP Thu Aug 11 18:00:59 UTC 2016 i686 i686 i686 GNU/Linux
[11:52] <baash05> Anyone know how to use bootchart?
[11:52] <panina> Shawn196 you can check your hardware with lshw -C CPU
[11:52] <k1l> Shawn196|Duo: that is a 32bit OS
[11:52] <Shawn196|Duo> is that 32-bit?
[11:52] <Shawn196|Duo> ah
[11:52] <yourgg> Panina: kind of because on boot it says Ubuntu 16 is encoutering problems and it continues booting on 14
[11:52] <adamicron> maxadamo: hi there
[11:53] <panina> yourgg interesting. Can't say I've encountered that. Does it say what kind of problems?
[11:53] <yourgg> panina: unfortunately not
[11:53] <Shawn196|Duo> wow, next time I get my studio 1747 running, I need to reinstall this system with 64-bit
[11:53] <Shawn196|Duo> is 64-bit more power efficient?
[11:53] <panina> Shawn196 if your CPU is 64 bit capable, there's usually something listed under capabilities in lshw.
[11:54] <Shawn196|Duo> width: 64 bits
[11:54] <k1l> panina: we already know its 64bit cpu
[11:54] <panina> Shawn196 there's more applications for it, for sure. Chrome is only avaliable for 64 bit, amongst others.
[11:54] <Shawn196|Duo> oh
[11:55] <Shawn196|Duo> I wonder how I might figure out the ram type on terminal
[11:55] <k1l> Shawn196|Duo: ubuntu repos are still available for both. but other projects start to kick 32bit like google chrome.
[11:55] <panina> yourgg if your 14 starts at all, you could do some diagnosing from that.
[11:55] <Shawn196|Duo> oh
[11:55] <Zacaron> hi
[11:55] <Shawn196|Duo> what about my pentium 4m laptop?
[11:55] <panina> Shawn196 lshw -C memory ?
[11:55] <Shawn196|Duo> I want to run some stuff on that
[11:55] <panina> or, well, with sudo
[11:55] <Shawn196|Duo> ah not RAM
[11:56] <Shawn196|Duo> am sudoing xD
[11:56] <panina> yourgg are you used to the command line terminal?
[11:56] <Shawn196|Duo> DDR2
[11:56] <yourgg> panina: can you tell me how if you have an idea ?
[11:56] <Shawn196|Duo> will DDR3 not fit?
[11:56] <panina> yourgg well, there might be some info if you type dmesg
[11:56] <yourgg> Panina: no pb with that
[11:56] <Shawn196|Duo> I have 4GBs of DDR3
[11:56] <Shawn196|Duo> extra
[11:57] <panina> yourgg pb? not sure what you mean.
[11:58] <k1l> Shawn196|Duo: you cant mix ddr2 and ddr3. they wont fit mechanically
[11:58] <yourgg> Panina: no problem
[11:58] <panina> ah
[11:58] <panina> yourgg dmesg shows info about the startup. There could be more info there about what's wrong with the 16 system.
[11:59] <panina> yourgg but it might be a good idea to get a live USB stick with ubuntu on it and try to rescue the system with that.
[11:59] <Shawn196|Duo> I figured
[11:59] <panina> yourgg I've never done that, but it's there in the options when you start those.
[12:00] <panina> yourgg I'd say try to do that before the 14 system breaks more.
[12:00] <Shawn196|Duo> I would say this laptop is worth upgrading ram
[12:00] <Shawn196|Duo> wait, I can just prepare a usb stick now
[12:01] <yourgg> panina: I am reading  the return of dmesg
[12:01] <Shawn196|Duo> for lubuntu 64-bit
[12:01] <panina> yourgg I'm not sure if the message that 16 install is broken is somewhere in there.
[12:01] <yourgg> panina: i will try the USB stick
[12:01] <panina> yourgg if it is, see if there are any red posts right before it (if your screen is colorized)
[12:01] <Shawn196|Duo> lshw does not show speed of the ram
[12:06] <Shawn196|Duo> hopefully techniclauncher will run better on 64bit
[12:08] <Jeffool> Hey all. New to Ubuntu, and I'm playing around with a 16.04 server. Any preferred instructions for idiots on installing a desktop, getting VNC running, etc? This looks to be right, but thought I'd get some human input? https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-install-and-configure-vnc-on-ubuntu-16-04
[12:09] <luthrak> Hi folks! Any tips on what to do if http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/s/sonnet/libkf5sonnet5-data_5.18.0-0ubuntu1_all.deb is 504 gatway timing out?
[12:09] <leozord> Good morning, e-people
[12:09] <k1l> Jeffool: why a desktop on a server at all? thats not a server then
[12:09] <luthrak> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23123875/
[12:10] <leozord> I'm having a problem with a Hard-Drive of mine and I need some help
[12:10] <Zacaron> luthrak that link is working fine
[12:10] <k1l> luthrak: link working here, are you using any proxies or vpn?
[12:10] <luthrak> and it downloads once in a couple tried from Firefox! Doesnt download at all while downloading my packages via apt-t
[12:11] <Jeffool> k1l Sadly a matter of not being able to find the software I want to use that flexible enough with command line instructions. (Media player with playlist support, and something to stream with, like OBE.)
[12:11] <leozord> The thing is, I swapped the hard-drive to another notebook and now it won't show it's total capacity
[12:11] <leozord> it has 160gb, but it only shows 500mb
[12:11] <Jeffool> k1l OBS, I mean.
[12:11] <leozord> no 'Home' folder whatsoever.
[12:12] <luthrak> Zacaron: k1l: neither a proxy nor a vpn. Its a fresh clean install on my home setup and this is amongst the first packages I was going to install.
[12:12] <Vlodoc> greetings from Portugal
[12:12] <Zacaron> luthrak traceroute to that domain
[12:12] <leozord> Hi there, Vlodoc. Greetings from Brazil  :D
[12:12] <k1l> luthrak: you could change to another mirror or the mainservers.
[12:13] <Vlodoc> Boas #leozord
[12:13] <k1l> Jeffool: i dont know about media streaming. but there should be server deamons.
[12:15] <Vlodoc> gozando o último dia de férias !!!!!
[12:16] <leozord> Que maravilha. Aproveite então.
[12:17] <Vlodoc> sim, estou neste momento na esplanada a derreter os últimos 15% de bateria do laptop hehehe
[12:17] <leozord> :D
[12:17] <Zacaron> Jeffool: If you are planning to switch to a desktop based system, why dont you get an Ubuntu Desktop instead of server?
[12:17] <Jeffool> k1l Closest I found was Plex, which couldn't loop playlists. I suppose I could constantly log in and restart it, but that kinda ruins the handiness of it.
[12:17] <Vlodoc> como estão as coisas por aí? nos jornais o Brazil está em todas as primeiras paginas
[12:18] <k1l> !br | Vlodoc
[12:19] <leozord> Chill, we were just chatting a bit.
[12:19] <Jeffool> Zacaron I'm renting the server so I can use its bandwidth instead of my home connection, is a big part of it.
[12:20] <Zacaron> I dont know is this is what you want but have you had a look at Subsonic? http://www.subsonic.org/pages/index.jsp
[12:20] <hongliangsam> hello,everyone
[12:20] <Vlodoc> hello hongliangsam
[12:21] <Jeffool> Zacaron I'm primarily considering streaming from the rented server to Twitch.tv, or a similar service. But I'll definitely take a look at this, thanks.
[12:21] <luthrak> Zacaron: I did the traceroute -- it hops from my host to my router to my ISP, then a couple IPs Im not familiar with, and finally to the destination in 14 hops. Would you want to look at the trace?
[12:21] <hongliangsam> do anybody know how to lock PDF file in Linux?for example,other people can not copy words from your PDF?
[12:21] <Zacaron> yes, pm me pls
[12:22] <Zacaron> I'll show my trace too
[12:22] <Zacaron> hongliangsam export it as image, not twxt
[12:22] <Zacaron> text*
[12:22] <dminuoso> Hi. I have a new Ubuntu 16.04 installation as a virtual guest. There are two network devices configured, one is my ens160 interface. How can I figure out what to call the other interface?
[12:23] <dminuoso> Or is there some command line manager to configure network interfaces in 16.04?
[12:23] <Raphael> I need to use a site which uses flash and it just says i dont have it even after installing pepper flash and all the other flash
[12:24] <dminuoso> Ohh, ip link show I suppose.
[12:24] <dminuoso> :)
[12:24] <Raphael> I need to use a site which uses flash and it just says i dont have it even after installing pepper flash and all the other flash. i have noticed that it only happens with the x86 version of the system
[12:35] <Shawn196|Duo> LOL I just noticed my foolishness
[12:35] <Shawn196|Duo> I am trying to find bookmarks on my ssd via my usb sata/ide adapter
[12:36] <Shawn196|Duo> with an extra desktop power supply, and I haven't even looked from my phone
[12:36] <Shawn196|Duo> which also has chrome
[12:41] <Shawn196|Duo> aww, this laptop is only compatible with 667Mhz DDR2 memory
[12:42] <PyroNoob> Shawn196|Duo: Sounds ancient. I want to know how how many meters thick it is.
[12:43] <luthrak> Zacaron: solved in a flash just by connecting via mobile connection. Thanks!
[12:45] <Shawn196|Duo> wow
[12:46] <Shawn196|Duo> what could I possibly be typing while typing chat to close the channel...
[12:46] <Serrie> /part ?
[12:46] <Shawn196|Duo> PyroNoob, about the same as DDR3
[12:49] <amincd> hi, I have a couple questions about Clonezilla, hoping someone here might be an expert in it: how risky is it to choose the option of skipping the 'check image' when creating a disk image? And what happens if you choose the 'check image' option but quit in the middle of the disk image check? Does a disk image file still get created?
[12:50] <Shawn196|Duo> wow lubuntu is only 762MBs
[12:52] <redbeardt> I have a pretty random tangentially relevant question. When I was installing Ubuntu for the first time on this system, I had a lot of trouble getting the partitions right, and I ended up just removing the Windows 10 partition that came installed on this system (it was a new laptop). Before I did that though, I did register Windows. I'm thinking about doing that whole qemu GPU-passthrough virtualization
[12:52] <redbeardt> now so I want to install my legal Win10 into a qemu box, but.. Where the heck do I re-downloadin my Windows from? I feel like this should be obvious but I can't find anything.
[12:52] <brunch875> redbeardt: https://www.microsoft.com/es-es/software-download/windows10ISO
[12:53] <redbeardt> brunch875: thanks!
[12:53] <brunch875> whoops, es-es slipped in the link
[12:53] <brunch875> it should be en for non-spaniards :p
[12:54] <redbeardt> brunch875: all good, i'll just change it
[12:55] <dminuoso> There is something amusing about folks coming into #ubuntu and asking how to download Windows..
[12:57] <redbeardt> dminuoso: Haha .. yes.
[12:57] <redbeardt> The download is plodding along at 40 kb/s so I might not get so far with this after all
[12:59] <Shawn196|Duo> firefox downloads slowly
[13:00] <Shawn196|Duo> it is strange, that one of my 2GB flash drives is just constantly blinking and is not showing up in lsusb
[13:01] <redbeardt> Shawn196|Duo: Have you tried using it in a USB2 slot instead of a USB3 one? I remember when I was first installing Ubuntu I either couldn't get my USB to work at all, or it'd be painfully slow.. Until I tried the USB2 slot.
[13:03] <Shawn196|Duo> redbeardt, I dont have usb3 on any of my devices
[13:05] <redbeardt> Shawn196|Duo: ok, sorry, worth a shot :p
[13:11] <Shawn196|Duo> indeed it is
[13:12] <redbeardt> Christ. There must be a faster way to download this bloody image. Microsoft is sure being stingy on the bandwidth.
[13:13] <Guest46660> Bonjour à tous
[13:14] <redbeardt> Guten Tag
[13:14] <Guest46660> on parle quoi ici
[13:14] <Pici> !fr | Guest46660
[13:14] <ouroumov> !fr Guest46660
[13:15] <Guest46660> ok merci
[13:16] <rory> not sure how to properly describe this, but how can I stop my mouse cursor from "catching" on the edge of the screen when moving it from one screen to another?
[13:16] <rory> like it stops and it'll only go up or down, unless I wiggle it a bit more
[13:17] <rory> I have to be going a certain speed to get "through"
[13:17] <rory> unity ubuntu 16.04
[13:17] <qwebirc80183> ubuntu for niggers
[13:17] <rory> not familiar with that varient.
[13:21] <Zacaron> rory: I guess this might help
[13:21] <Zacaron> http://askubuntu.com/questions/462629/how-to-disable-sticky-edges-in-ubuntu-14-04-ubuntu-13-10-and-earlier-had-a-opti
[13:21] <Zacaron> thats for 13 and 14
[13:21] <Zacaron> but I guess it still works on 16
[13:23] <rory> hey that did it!
[13:23] <rory> what a bizzare default
[13:23] <Zacaron> ;)
[13:23] <Zacaron> indeed
[13:23] <rory> are "papercuts" still a thing?
[13:24] <rory> i want to shout at somebody
[13:24] <Zacaron> dont know what that is, im spaniard so I dont recognaise that
[13:24] <Zacaron> do you mean something to make screenshots?
[13:24] <rory> few years ago there was a big push by canonical to close what they call "papercut" bugs
[13:24] <rory> like little annoyances which aren't system breaking
[13:24] <Zacaron> ooooh
[13:24] <Zacaron> i see
[13:24] <Zacaron> no idea
[13:24] <rory> but which add up to make a negative experience
[13:26] <rory> what possible use case is there for that setting even existing, let alone being turned on by default?
[13:26] <Zacaron> I guess its for docks or to ease to stick a window to the edge
[13:28] <rory> i checked, window edge snapping still works. I guess it would make that easier
[13:28] <rory> Maybe the stickiness should be part of the window snapping only, rather than something global
[13:28] <Zacaron> +1
[13:31] <indistylo> HI, I accidentally put exit 0 in .bashrc, I have tried scp ;rsync ; --norc ; sshfs; --no profile
[13:31] <indistylo> Kindly suggest the solution
[13:33] <Pici> indistylo: one way would be to run another shell from ssh, i.e. ssh user@host sh   and then simply modify the file there.
[13:35] <Zacaron> I guess .bashrc applies in ssh login
[13:39] <CrtxReavr> Saw this while running 'apt-get upgrade' on 16.04.1 LTS:
[13:39] <manlin> indistylo: "ssh -t user@server vi .bashrc" and remove the exit
[13:39] <CrtxReavr> update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-4.4.0-36-generic
[13:39] <CrtxReavr> W: mdadm: /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf defines no arrays.
[13:39] <blinko> hi, I am trying to install ubuntu in a laptop with two disks in raid 1, with gpt/bios. I have 4 partitions. sda: bios grub part, boot part (btrfs raid1), encrypted swap part (mdadm raid1), main part(luks -> btrfs raid1) ; sdb: same partitioning. I can't configure initramfs and grub to boot into this setup. Can anyone help me please? https://gist.github.com/anonymous/46ba76bb24d7420dac82ab28d1922031
[13:42] <indistylo> manlin:   scp executes .bashrc and exits before it connects
[13:42] <manlin> indistylo: i was suggesting ssh
[13:42] <superuser> luv u <3
[13:42] <CrtxReavr> The scponly shell is a thing.
[13:43] <superuser> do u luv me?
[13:43] <CrtxReavr> Not if you're IRCing as root.
[13:43] <superuser> ok still luv u
[13:48] <krizoek> someone knows where gtkdialog have gone in the latest versions of ubuntu?
[13:48] <Zacaron> probably to /dev/null
[13:51] <blinko> does anyone know how to do advanced partitioning schemes in ubuntu? The installation went ok but I can't get the system to boot. I did a combination of raid 1 with mdadm, btrfs raid1 and luks.
[13:52] <hateball> blinko: what happens when you try? blank screen?
[13:52] <Dechcaudron> sup my guys
[13:52] <blinko> hateball: yeah, here is my partitioning. http://paste.ubuntu.com/23124121/
[13:52] <hateball> blinko: in case of black screen, do you have nvidia gpu?
[13:53] <blinko> hateball: yes, a geforce 8600M
[13:53] <hateball> blinko: can you try booting with nomodeset as kernel parameter?
[13:55] <blinko> hateball: I can, but I fear it won't decrypt the luks partition.
[13:55] <blinko> and mount the btrfs stuff
[13:55] <hateball> blinko: give it a go
[13:56] <blinko> hateball: ok, i'll give it a shot in 20m let me just check some more docs. :)
[13:56] <blinko> p.s. I am lazy don't want to chroot and mount everything again
[13:56] <blinko> xD
[13:57] <hateball> blinko: iirc there is some issue with nvidia blob unless much recent (from ppa or so) where it will be black if you use encryption
[13:57] <hateball> which is why I asked
[13:57] <hateball> blinko: it could also be something else of course
[13:58] <blinko> hateball: ok I'll add that to the kernel parameters in a bit
[13:58] <blinko> Thanks
[14:01] <geirha> krizoek: It was apparently a command bundled with the package radare, which isn't included in the repositories anymore. I don't know why. Perhaps it's no longer maintained.
[14:01] <krizoek> ty, i hope i could get it
[14:02] <geirha> krizoek: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/radare
[14:02] <janisozaur> can I get some help with deb packaging, please?
[14:03] <geirha> krizoek: "Deleted in vivid-release (Reason: (From Debian) ROM; superseded by radare2; Debian bug #760975)
[14:03] <Zacaron> janisozaur: tell us
[14:04] <janisozaur> I'm trying to configure rules file for my cmake-based project so that some architectures get additional flags
[14:05] <zetheroo> how do I find out what the latest version of python is in 16.04? (or any other release)
[14:05] <janisozaur> Zacaron, this is what I have come up so far: https://git.launchpad.net/openrct2/tree/debian?id=0793b0a6d39617d49f327a9b82181ab7b0857ccc
[14:05] <VectorX> installing ubuntu 16.04.01 Server in virtualbox 5.1.4 but I cant seem to get the guest additions installed, anyone got a link to a guide ?
[14:06] <redbeardt> Random question: Why is it that if a game freezes, and I do a kill on it, *and* the process is gone, the last rendered frame won't bugger off from behind all my windows?
[14:06] <SchrodingersScat> !info python | zetheroo
[14:06] <zetheroo> SchrodingersScat: ok thanks
[14:06] <SchrodingersScat> !info python trusty | zetheroo
[14:07] <BluesKaj> zetheroo, check you package manager or do,  apt-cache policy python3
[14:07] <Zacaron> janisozaur, thats totally out of my skills, sorry
[14:08] <SchrodingersScat> BluesKaj: and if he wants other releases, is that found online?
[14:08] <BluesKaj> SchrodingersScat,it's installed on 16.04
[14:09] <joelio> pyenv is good I hear ;)
[14:09] <georgojo> buenos deseo software de ubuntu.  Xenial xerus 14.04
[14:10] <BluesKaj> SchrodingersScat, I just checked muon(original)
[14:10] <fralex16_> need some advice about ubuntu
[14:10] <fralex16_> I have a laptop on which I'd like to install it
[14:11] <georgojo> quien me puede ayudar?
[14:11] <BluesKaj> !es | georgojo
[14:12] <BluesKaj> fralex16_, more details please in one sentence
[14:13] <zetheroo> a colleague told me "in 14.04. there's a version of proftpd bundled, which has an unpatched vunerabilty since over a year" - is this true?
[14:14] <p1l0t> ata3 soft reset failed... what does that mean?
[14:14] <fralex16_> sony vaio, intel i3 processor, 4gb ram, 500gb hdd
[14:14] <BluesKaj> zetheroo, I don't think proftpd is installed by default tho
[14:15] <georgojo> join # ubunto - es  Donde puedo conseguir un software de Ubunto.
[14:15] <BluesKaj> fralex16_, looks good , you should have no problem installing ubuntu
[14:15] <zetheroo> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/proftpd-dfsg/+bug/1462311
[14:15] <fralex16_> I'm currently using win 10 but runs slowly
[14:15] <k1l> georgojo: "/join #ubuntu-es"   this channel here is english only
[14:16] <BluesKaj> W10 is a hog
[14:16] <BluesKaj> fralex16_,^
[14:16] <fralex16_> is there a specific flavor?
[14:16] <blinko> fralex16_: http://www.ubuntu.com/about/about-ubuntu/flavours
[14:16] <k1l> zetheroo: https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/2015/CVE-2015-3306.html
[14:16] <fralex16_> or where can i gather more info?
[14:16] <k1l> zetheroo: is there a path available to backport it to that version of 14.04?
[14:17] <BluesKaj> yes there are , which flavour are looking at fralex16_
[14:17] <duelle> fralex16_: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop a bit further down there is a guide for "From Windows". PErhaps that is helpful
[14:17] <k1l> zetheroo: and do people still run unsecure ftp and not sftp at all?
[14:17] <k1l> fralex16_: any ubuntu flavor should run fine on that machine
[14:17] <fralex16_> thanks duelle
[14:18] <sorryclub> I was ubuntu 16.04 LTS, does not care to / var / lib directory to be deleted, and there were many mistakes, there are good-hearted people who packed a ah, O (∩_∩) O Thank you
[14:18] <fralex16_> thank you all for the advice
[14:19] <duelle> fralex16_: With that you can boot your machine with Ubuntu and give it a try without having to install it right from the beginning. If you feel that this could be something you want to use, you could install it in parallel to your windows installation.
[14:19] <zetheroo> k1l: he likes BSD and is telling me that the BSD ports are much faster at updating security patches
[14:20] <k1l> zetheroo: again: is there a patch for that to fix? to me it looks like "just update the version some releases " which doesnt work that easily on LTS
[14:20] <duelle> fralex16_: This might also be interesting for you: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/try-ubuntu-before-you-install
[14:20] <fralex16_> I'd like to do a clean install, like I said it runs awfully slow with win 10
[14:20] <BluesKaj> zetheroo, BSD is fine if your'e willing to muck about for a whole day getting all your HW working
[14:21] <duelle> fralex16_: Remember to make backups of your data and try whether all your hardware works fine (e.g., wifi) before doing the 'full' install.
[14:21] <k1l> zetheroo: and like told in that bug report comments its in universe. ask the maintainer why he doesnt fix it if you need a more technical answer
[14:21] <zetheroo> BluesKaj: hardware aside :D I am trying to get my head around the packaging reasons ...
[14:22] <fralex16_> got it
[14:22] <mememan> i am the meme man
[14:23] <mememan> how are you doing my friends
[14:23] <zetheroo> k1l: ok, so the Universe repo is not maintained by Canonical?
[14:23] <fralex16_> just to be sure, when using the live usb of ubuntu, if it runs with no problems that means I can go ahead and install it?
[14:23] <k1l> zetheroo: no. its maintained by the community. look at packages.ubuntu.com who the maintainers are
[14:23] <BluesKaj> zetheroo, some westcoast US businesses still run BSD because they and their IT guys attented Berkley , and they're stuck in a time warp :-)
[14:23] <mememan> ayy anyone want to teach me how to hack like a G????
[14:24] <k1l> mememan: this is the wrong channel for hacking and such kiddie stuff. we focus on actual ubuntu support in here.
[14:24] <parad> hack like a g?
[14:24] <mememan> yes friend
[14:24] <zetheroo> k1l: ah ok.
[14:24] <mememan> i need sum friends
[14:24] <blinko> too much mr. robott
[14:24] <blinko> xD
[14:24] <mememan> which channel would i find these kinds of people?
[14:25] <BluesKaj> google mr robot
[14:25] <mememan> ok
[14:25] <k1l> mememan: not on freenode. you will have to find a irc network that supports illegal stuff. not here
[14:25] <parad> you are better off attentding an ethical hack course
[14:25] <parad> go look @ coursera or something
[14:25] <duelle> fralex16_: Even if there is something that does not work, only means that it might not work out of the box but could be fixed with some adjustments. If it works fine for all the features you want, I would say that you can give it a try and install it. Just remember making backups of important data.
[14:25] <mememan> yes mr robot will definetly heklp me out
[14:25] <xn-keo> @mememan, check on root-me it's a pentesting platform.
[14:26] <mememan> ok
[14:26] <parad> mememe you should download kali linix imho
[14:26] <mememan> maybe
[14:26] <parad> https://www.kali.org/
[14:26] <parad> have fun
[14:27] <BluesKaj> fralex16_, we can discuss flavours here ...I haven't tried them all so it's bewst we keep the discussion where others can see what's being said and may contribute soem good suggestions
[14:27] <mememan> ill try it out but the ubuntu download kills usbs
[14:27] <mememan> and idk how to wipe the drive
[14:27] <mememan> oh btw is kali faster than ubuntu????/
[14:28] <fralex16_> ok, blueskaj, i'm going for ubuntu mate
[14:28] <k1l> kali is something different from ubuntu and not in the scope of this channel, mememan
[14:28] <mememan> how do i change my channel?
[14:28] <BluesKaj> fralex16_, yes mate would suit your machine specs just fine
[14:28] <xn-keo> Someone speak about kali-linux ? BackBox is a better distr and it's based on ubuntu
[14:29] <duelle> mememan: /j #<channelname>
[14:29] <blinko> xD
[14:29] <blinko> what about blackarch?
[14:30] <xn-keo> I don't try BlackArch :c
[14:30] <k1l> but all are offtopic in here
[14:32] <fralex16_> what difference does it make if I use an external storage to do the live boot
[14:32] <fralex16_> instead of a usb
[14:33] <xn-keo> More space
[14:33] <ash_workz> in order to extend a partition you need to not be working on the system in question? (ie, use a liveCD?)
[14:33] <fralex16_> it says at least 8gb for the usb but I only have a 4gb one
[14:33] <k1l> fralex16_: some bios cant boot from usb hdds. just usb pendrives
[14:33] <blinko> you can create a virtual machine
[14:33] <ash_workz> cool, now I'm getting lots of errors with just `apt-get autoremove` :D
[14:34] <k1l> fralex16_: no, that is meant for disk space. not on the usb.
[14:34] <xn-keo> @ash_workz you delete something wrong i think
[14:34] <k1l> ash_workz: yes, you cant resize mounted partitions.
[14:34] <ash_workz> maybe
[14:35] <ash_workz> k1l: does LVM make a difference in that equation?
[14:36] <ash_workz> sans downloading a live image is there another way to resize partitions? perhaps from grub or something
[14:36] <k1l> fralex16_: 2Gb is enough. your 4gb will work for the live system
[14:36] <fralex16_> nevermind k1l, I see now
[14:36] <fralex16_> thanks
[14:37] <fralex16_> I hope not to mess anything up
[14:37] <blinko> I am trying to install ubuntu on two hard drives with raid, luks and gpt/bios. I have managed to boot into initramfs but nothing happens. I think there are hooks missing. Should I just copy the ones I need from /usr/share/initramfs/hooks?
[14:38] <ash_workz> I just really don't want to have to download an image :\
[14:38] <duelle> fralex16_: There is not much risk if your data is backed up. Good luck ;)
[14:39] <ash_workz> I mean, I knew this was coming
[14:39] <fralex16_> thanks duelle
[14:39] <ash_workz> I think my boot partition *should* be large enough
[14:39] <ash_workz> but alas, it never is
[14:39] <ash_workz> the answer is usually "get rid of old images"
[14:40] <ash_workz> but ubuntu has a system in place to only keep like 2 previous versions
[14:40] <ash_workz> which supposedly is both convenient and accounted for in boot size
[14:40] <sxpert> ash_workz: apt-get autoremove is your friend
[14:40] <ash_workz> sxpert: way ahead of you ^
[14:41] <sxpert> that should be included whenever a new kernel is installed...
[14:41] <jhutchins> duelle: You should make it clear that it's a personal opinion, not a statement of fact.  Debian can be a great desktop system too.
[14:41] <ash_workz> sxpert: + apt full-install should do that anyway, right?
[14:41] <netvixtra> so could slack, jhutchins
[14:42] <jhutchins> duelle: One of the things Ubuntu does is handle newer hardware more automatically, wihtout requiring the user to tinker with the system.  That's a point to consider for laptops.
[14:42] <ash_workz> sxpert: E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[14:43] <ash_workz> sxpert: I'm just really lucky I think
[14:43] <ash_workz> it's not like the channel is flooded with people saying, "help! my boot ran out of space!"
[14:43] <sxpert> ash_workz: trick is to truncate some of th useless files in /boot
[14:44] <duelle> jhutchins: That is why I recommended ubuntu in that special case. First because he said, that he is quite new to Linux in general and second because I thought it might be good to get him running with his system without much configuring or fixing compatibility issues or even issues because of not-so-recent versions.
[14:44] <sxpert> then run autoremove again if things don't work properly
[14:44] <ash_workz> sxpert: that's also something I shouldn't *have* to do, but I'll try it
[14:44] <ash_workz> but before that
[14:44] <ash_workz> here's my full error report to stdout: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/00ae62aad022dff85054a5a124b8c62b
[14:44] <netvixtra> ash_workz: I don't get it why you would like a separate /boot partition
[14:44] <tyroux> any update on this?  https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1715880
[14:44] <ash_workz> it seems like a cluster-fk to me, but anyone want to confirm it's not I'll just proceed with sxpert's idea
[14:45] <sxpert> ash_workz: I added a cron job to do this every morning at 10 on all workstations
[14:45] <sxpert> ash_workz: no more issues ;)
[14:45] <duelle> jhutchins: That's what I also stated when saying that I would recommend Ubuntu in that case, jhutchins.
[14:45] <ash_workz> netvixtra: I guess it's necessary for the secure boot... or w/e
[14:45] <netvixtra> ash_workz: oh, cryptfs?
[14:45] <ash_workz> netvixtra: yeah
[14:45] <netvixtra> tyroux: works here
[14:46] <netvixtra> ash_workz: Funny, I have a single partition system which is encrypted.
[14:46] <netvixtra> (
[14:46] <netvixtra> :(
[14:46] <ash_workz> netvixtra: people have told me before that my size should be enough
[14:46] <tyroux> netvixtra, Bus 001 Device 004: ID 138a:0007 Validity Sensors, Inc. VFS451 Fingerprint Reader
[14:46] <duelle> jhutchins: It was definitely not my intention to start any distro-wars. Just to give a person interested in Linux in general a hint that might fit for him.
[14:46] <tyroux> netvixtra, tatus: No devices found
[14:47] <ash_workz> netvixtra: so, you're saying it's not necessary to have a separate partition when using cryptfs ?
[14:47] <ash_workz> sxpert: did you take a look at that error?
[14:47] <sxpert> last I checked grub was not capable of decrypting the boot partition. mebbe things have recently changed
[14:48] <sxpert> ash_workz: the classic reason for that error is "no space left on device $whatever"
[14:50] <netvixtra> sxpert: You are correct. It seems like ubuntu installs the cryptfs tools to /boot by default.
[14:50] <joelio> sidenote, but you can remotely unlock crypt via dropbear ssh fwiw
[14:51] <netvixtra> tyroux: Bus 001 Device 003: ID 138a:003c Validity Sensors, Inc. VFS471 Fingerprint Reader
[14:51] <netvixtra> tyroux: sorry, those looked so alike
[14:52] <tyroux> netvixtra, So as of now 6 years later still no support?
[14:53] <netvixtra> tyroux: it works here, but I can't get gnome to accept it (no longer using gnome, so do not need it anyways)
[14:53] <elwaps> hey everyone
[14:54] <elwaps> I was pretty dumb and now I need some help ^^ I got a server with Kubuntu 16.04 running and was trying to make it shutdown after a while of idle
[14:54] <elwaps> First I activated WOL and successfully tested it
[14:55] <elwaps> Then I added a script to rc.local that was meant to shutdown after 15 minutes of idle
[14:55] <tyroux> netvixtra, this device works? 138a:0007 Validity Sensors, Inc. VFS451
[14:55] <elwaps> Ive set it to 1 minute just for testing but now it IMMEDIATELY shuts down the machine -_-
[14:55] <elwaps> Any idea how to get access to the machine long enough to remove the script??
[14:56] <ImageJPEG> So, I'm trying to setup a landscape server. I'm trying to setup a new standalone user but after typing my information, I'm given a blank page. I've added the *hostname.local* to my dns server. I'm at a loss. Any ideas?
[14:58] <BluesKaj> ImageJPEG, did you add the local.host IP
[14:59] <ImageJPEG> Yes, I created a new forward zone on Windows 2012R2. I created *hostname.local* with the ip associated with it. I can access the site through a web browser by typing "https://*hostname*.local" but after I enter a new standalone user information, I just get a blank page
[15:00] <ImageJPEG> hmm. In my rabbitmq log I'm receiving this error:
[15:00] <ImageJPEG> "AMQPLAIN login refused: user 'landscape' - invalid credentials",
[15:05] <joelio> ImageJPEG: is that 'landscape' as in ubuntu landscape or something else?
[15:05] <ash_mobile> My connection cuts out... I'm pretty sure it's my workstation though because it returns when I reboot
[15:05] <ImageJPEG> Yes
[15:05] <ducasse> ImageJPEG: don't know if it is related, but i've read lots of warnings against using .local as a dns domain. aiui, that is what avahi uses by default for mdns, so it is recommended to choose something else, i use .lan.
[15:05] <ash_mobile> sxpert you were saying?
[15:06] <ImageJPEG> I can give that a shot I guess
[15:06] <ash_mobile> Btw, I know why I'm outta room
[15:07] <ash_mobile> I'm running 14.04 and xenial is unpacked
[15:07] <craptalk> does linux kernel only for resource management?
[15:08] <ash_mobile> I'll throw up a couple gists while my connection lasts
[15:08] <suic> Hey, creating a vm for an web appliance. What version of ubuntu should I be using?  Been a long time since i've used linux
[15:09] <jatt> 16.04
[15:09] <joelio> suic: 16.04 is an LTS
[15:09] <ash_mobile> I feel like I must be the only one who has problems upgrading shit
[15:09] <suic> joelio: great.
[15:10] <BluesKaj> ash_mobile, check your mirror repos .. perhaps a change might help
[15:12] <ash_workz> BluesKaj: atm I need to deal with my space issue
[15:12] <ash_workz> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/bb49d80a13e5a6be20a0735f7b9af7c3
[15:12] <ash_workz> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/6522369b2c3dc6662320c15c9cc6bacb
[15:12] <ash_workz> should I/how do I remove xenial for the time being
[15:12] <ash_workz> apt-get purge?
[15:12] <ash_workz> I don't think the system is using it
[15:12] <ash_workz> how do I check that?
[15:12] <dan01> Hi, so, I knew there war some problems with Skylake on Ubuntu, is everything ok now? :D
[15:14] <whallz> why does installing libapache2-mod-php5 removes apache2-mpm-event? i want to run using event mpm
[15:14] <jafostes> hello
[15:14] <EriC^^> jafostes: hello
[15:14] <whallz> but php files get downloaded instead of executed with running on event mpm
[15:14] <BluesKaj> ash_workz, you can't purge an OS, you erase the partition it's installed to and install a new OS in it's place
[15:14] <ash_mobile> Am I muted?
[15:14] <EriC^^> ash_mobile: no
[15:14] <ash_workz> woot, not muted anymore :P
[15:14] <jafostes> anyone know what is the location of the servlist xchat file?
[15:15] <ash_workz> BluesKaj: I think we're on different pages
[15:15] <ducasse> craptalk: i don't understand the question.
[15:15] <EriC^^> jafostes: ~/.xchat2/servlist_.conf
[15:15] <ash_workz> BluesKaj: when I said purge, I was referring to this:https://gist.github.com/anonymous/6522369b2c3dc6662320c15c9cc6bacb#file-dpkg-linux-L73
[15:15] <jafostes> thnks
[15:15] <EriC^^> jafostes: np
[15:16] <ash_workz> BluesKaj: sorry; https://gist.github.com/anonymous/6522369b2c3dc6662320c15c9cc6bacb#file-dpkg-linux-L73
[15:16] <ash_workz> still; which image is in use?
[15:17] <ash_workz> Google is flooded with `dpkg -l linux*` responses when I try to ask
[15:17] <BluesKaj> lsb_release -a
[15:17] <ash_workz> woot, thanks
[15:18] <ash_workz> er... I can't exactly match that up to an image package :\
[15:18] <ash_workz> BluesKaj: ^
[15:18] <EriC^^> ash_workz: what are you trying to get?
[15:18] <ash_workz> mas space
[15:18] <whallz> after installing apache2-mpm-event i cant run php no more, what else do i need to install?
[15:18] <BluesKaj> ash_workz, dunno what you're trying to accomplish
[15:18] <EriC^^> ash_workz: oh, nevermind
[15:18] <Guest28256> why is it that every time I try to upgrade lubuntu, it stops and shuts itself down
[15:19] <ash_workz> BluesKaj: ^
[15:19] <ash_workz> "more" space
[15:19] <EriC^^> Guest28256: upgrade how? the installed packages?
[15:19] <efalcao> hey all, wondering how to get help about starting up canonical instances on ec2. it seems to stop working at some point in the last day: https://twitter.com/MichaelTibben/status/771697586969325568
[15:19] <wadadli_> Guest28256: maybe it's tired
[15:19] <efalcao> it’s almost like there’s been a permissions change
[15:20] <Guest28256> it aint
[15:20] <BluesKaj> ash_workz, more space means you need to use a partition manager
[15:20] <ash_workz> BluesKaj: or get rid of files
[15:20] <ash_workz> BluesKaj: which is the more imperative thing to do right now
[15:20] <Guest28256> EriC^^, it wants me to upgrade via dialogue
[15:20] <BluesKaj> that doesn't remove an OS
[15:20] <EriC^^> Guest28256: try sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[15:20] <EriC^^> in a terminal
[15:21] <ash_workz> BluesKaj: that's not my intention
[15:21] <ash_workz> BluesKaj: I have run out of room for updates
[15:21] <ash_workz> BluesKaj: this has been a mysterious ongoing problem for me
[15:21] <EriC^^> ash_workz: remove unused kernels
[15:21] <Shawn196|Duo> any suggestions?
[15:21] <ash_workz> EriC^^: woot! this is what I want to do
[15:21] <BluesKaj> well then explain exactly and succinctly what your trying to do, "more space" doesn't tell us anything
[15:22] <EriC^^> ash_workz: take a look at /var/log for logs that are excessive
[15:22] <ash_workz> EriC^^: but which kernel is in use right now?
[15:22] <EriC^^> ash_workz: sudo apt-get autoremove
[15:22] <EriC^^> ash_workz: uname -r shows the current running kernel
[15:22] <BluesKaj> oh lord
[15:22] <ash_workz> EriC^^: autoremove results in an error
[15:22] <EriC^^> ash_workz: pastebin it
[15:23] <ash_workz> oh snap... xenial *is* in use
[15:23] <ImageJPEG> Alright, fixed the problem with the rabbitmq issue. I still receive a blank page when trying to create a new standalone user. This is also after I changed the A record to "*hostname*.lan"
[15:24] <EriC^^> ash_workz: autoremove should remove everything but the latest 2 kernels
[15:24] <Shawn196|Duo> is the harddrive supposed to speed up and slow down, while still read/writing?
[15:24] <Shawn196|Duo> is that normal for a latop SATA harddrive?
[15:25] <ImageJPEG> After clicking on "signup" on firefox I'm redirected to "https:///new-standalone-user"
[15:25] <davsantos> I am looking for someone that would help me setting up VM VirtualBox.
[15:25] <davsantos> I keep on getting this Fatal: no bootable medium
[15:26] <EriC^^> davsantos: go to settings > storage and add a bootable iso
[15:26] <davsantos> I did that. That's the problem
[15:26] <ash_workz> EriC^^: I would paste the error, but that's *right* when I start having connection problems
[15:27] <davsantos> I find that answer in every Forum as if it would be basic but I did that 100 times
[15:27] <EriC^^> ash_workz: have you tried pastebinit?
[15:27] <ash_workz> EriC^^: but I will if you want, but before I do, it does some stuff like normal then it runs into `update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-4.4.0-36-generic\n\ngzip: stdout: No space left on device` then tries to do more stuff and can't then exit with error code
[15:27] <EriC^^> davsantos: can you take a screenshot of your settings > storage menu?
[15:27] <joelio> ash_workz: full /boot - apt-get autoremove
[15:27] <EriC^^> davsantos: which iso are you trying to boot?
[15:27] <davsantos> sure! give me a sec
[15:27] <ducasse> ImageJPEG: with landscape i'd think you are more likely to get help in #ubuntu-server, we mainly deal with desktop stuff here.
[15:28] <joelio> ash_workz: or dpkg -r older kernels
[15:28] <EriC^^> ash_workz: oh ok
[15:28] <ash_workz> joelio: workin' on it
[15:28] <ImageJPEG> Doesn't matter now as I've got it working now lol
[15:28] <EriC^^> ash_workz: you need to manually free some space then run it, try ls /boot and see which kernels and initrd you can remove without removing the current running one
[15:28] <EriC^^> and sudo rm them
[15:29] <ash_workz> EriC^^: what about `dpkg -r` ?
[15:29] <joelio> ash_workz: dpkg -r mate
[15:29] <joelio> don't rm them!
[15:29] <joelio> you'll be left with broken packages
[15:29] <EriC^^> won't work i think
[15:29] <EriC^^> nah
[15:29] <joelio> dpkg -l limux-image*
[15:29] <joelio> find old ones
[15:29] <EriC^^> joelio: no he/she won't
[15:29] <fatty> hi
[15:29] <davsantos> I downloaded iso from here: http://www.techverse.net/download-windows-7-iso-x86-x64-microsofts-official-servers/
[15:29] <ash_workz> hmm?
[15:29] <ash_workz> I already pasted that :P
[15:30] <ash_workz> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/6522369b2c3dc6662320c15c9cc6bacb#file-dpkg-linux
[15:30] <EriC^^> ash_workz: what does uname -r return?
[15:30] <ash_workz> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/6522369b2c3dc6662320c15c9cc6bacb -- sorry
[15:30] <joelio> if you install a package, then remove the files it installs... it'll be a broken package.. just dpkg -r them, not sure why you'r manually rm them
[15:30] <ash_workz> 4.4.0-36-generic
[15:30] <joelio> package manager manage for a reason :)
[15:30] <fatty> 咋全是歪果仁？
[15:30] <EriC^^> joelio: it won't be broken, and dpkg won't work cause it needs to run some stuff while removing it and it doesn't have the space
[15:31] <joelio> not true
[15:31] <joelio> I have done it *many* times  :)
[15:31] <EriC^^> it's a cliche problem, ok as you wish :)
[15:31] <EriC^^> fine *remembers the 100 times he's seen it in this channel..*
[15:31] <joelio> apt-get remove won't work - but a dpkg -r will :)
[15:31] <ash_workz> ok ok, I'm not terrible concerned about the method at this point; I need to know *which* are safe to remove
[15:32] <ash_workz> terribly*
[15:32] <ash_workz> also
[15:32] <joelio> try the 'safe' way, if it doens't work - use the 'unsafe' :)
[15:32] <davsantos> Eric^^ how do I send Screenshot
[15:32] <fatty> ```论英文的重要性～～～
[15:32] <EriC^^> davsantos: upload to imgur.com
[15:33] <ash_workz> any of these look dangerously large? https://gist.github.com/anonymous/6b5d424468bbdac510bf65639d09569f
[15:34] <EriC^^> ash_workz: not really
[15:34] <ash_workz> joelio: I'm not going to do anything till I have a plan of action
[15:34] <EriC^^> ash_workz: can you pastebin ls /boot ?
[15:34] <ash_workz> EriC^^: fwiw: apport was complaining that it has reached a limit in the logs
[15:34] <ash_workz> EriC^^: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/bb49d80a13e5a6be20a0735f7b9af7c3
[15:35] <joelio> you could just move the kernels out of the /boot rerun apt-get -f install then put back if that bothered.. loads of ways around it
[15:35] <EriC^^> ash_workz: what does uname -r give you?
[15:35] <ash_workz> 4.4.0-36-generic
[15:35] <EriC^^> joelio: how exactly would that accomplish anything?
[15:35] <joelio> because you free up space on /boot
[15:36] <joelio> apt can complete
[15:36] <joelio> another thing I've done in the past :)
[15:36] <ash_workz> joelio: w/e this is all assuming i know what is safe to move/remove
[15:36]  * joelio had to manage several hundred users and rued the decision to set a 256 MB boot in preseed
[15:37] <ash_workz> I am ruing the decision to go with default for my boot partition space
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[15:37]  * ash_workz rues
[15:37] <EriC^^> davsantos: ty
[15:37] <joelio> ash_workz: I hear ya!
[15:37] <ash_workz> a n y w a y
[15:37] <joelio> apt-get autoremove handles older kernel removal - to a degree now
[15:38] <ash_workz> I didn't think I was suppose to be on xenial
[15:38] <ash_workz> but w/e
[15:38] <Shawn196|Lubuntu> lofty lubuntu
[15:38] <joelio> so it's better, but my users also have large binary blobs in kernel too - so even more fun
[15:38] <Shawn196|Lubuntu> doesn't want to upgrade, so I am upgrading the hard way
[15:38] <joelio> laods of old dkms stuff in /boot too
[15:38] <ash_workz> EriC^^: anything in boot look truncat-able?
[15:38] <EriC^^> ash_workz: sudo rm /boot/initrd.img-3.19.0-{58,61}-generic
[15:39] <ash_workz> yay
[15:40] <ash_workz> anything else?
[15:40] <EriC^^> if you want, do sudo mv /boot/initrd.img-3.19.0-58-generic /
[15:40] <EriC^^> did you run it already?
[15:40] <ash_workz> yep :P
[15:40] <EriC^^> davsantos: checking link..
[15:40] <Shawn196|Lubuntu> is this the 50s, or 1999?
[15:40] <mustmodify___> I used apt-get to install LLVM. But the version isn't compatible with the version of rbx that I need to install because it's in production. If I manually compile LLVM and whatever else is needed to get RBX built, what kind of chaos is that going to cause for Ubuntu?
[15:40] <Shawn196|Lubuntu> aw someone else left
[15:40] <EriC^^> ash_workz: ok, now run sudo apt-get autoremove
[15:40] <Shawn196|Lubuntu> it was 1950 xD
[15:41] <ash_workz> anyway /boot is now @ 79%... maybe autoremove will work now?
[15:41] <joelio> mustmodify___: are you using rbenv?
[15:41] <mustmodify___> chruby
[15:41] <mustmodify___> joelio: chruby
[15:41] <Shawn196|Lubuntu> so I referenced huey lewis & the news
[15:41] <ash_workz> EriC^^: just for my information; would it have been better to keep 58?
[15:41] <joelio> mustmodify___: no PPA for the LLVM version you need?
[15:41] <EriC^^> ash_workz: nah, if the new one is working fine there's really no need
[15:42] <ash_workz> okay, so usually the package manager keeps 1st, previous, and latest, right?
[15:42] <ash_workz> EriC^^: ^
[15:42] <ash_workz> (whoo, that's a lot of carets)
[15:42] <mustmodify___> joelio: PPA?
[15:43] <EriC^^> davsantos: it looks ok *shrug*
[15:43] <EriC^^> that's an update iso for win7?
[15:43] <joelio> !ppa
[15:43] <mustmodify___> joelio: haven't heard of that. I'll check.
[15:43] <joelio> mustmodify___: which version do you need?
[15:43] <EriC^^> ash_workz: nope, it should keep just the very last 2, but autoremove messes up sometimes
[15:43] <davsantos> its Windows 7 Service Pack 1 (SP1)
[15:44] <mustmodify___> looks like rbx 2.5.1
[15:44] <davsantos> Maybe it has something to do with the iso
[15:44] <davsantos> maybe its not bootable
[15:44] <ash_workz> EriC^^: the prior 2? (2 prior + current) or the latest 2? (only 1 previous)
[15:44] <joelio> EriC^^: autoremove works fine for me, maybe due to properly removing older kernels :troll: :)
[15:44] <EriC^^> davsantos: maybe, did you try to mount it from windows and click install from there?
[15:44] <davsantos> does anyone know a link to a downloadable Windows 7 Iso that works on VirtualBox
[15:44] <davsantos> no I didnt
[15:45] <ash_workz> joelio: I dunno why people think I have enough space
[15:45] <Shawn196|Lubuntu> oh great, I can't install i386 software on amd64
[15:45] <davsantos> mount it from Windows you mean make a CD and run it on the drive
[15:45] <davsantos> ?
[15:45] <EriC^^> ash_workz: latest 2, i think
[15:45] <joelio> autoremove kernel looks at what kernels are installed via dpkg
[15:45] <joelio> if you remove the kernel manually and leave the package... then guess what... :)
[15:46] <EriC^^> davsantos: yeah, use the cd from the windows install
[15:46] <ash_workz> joelio: it's not like I'm just letting updates go forever without checking... + ubuntu prompts me every so often about updates (which it's supposed to do anyway) but of course it can never update anything because *space*
[15:46] <ash_workz> anyway
[15:46] <ash_workz> here goes
[15:46]  * ash_workz takes deep breath
[15:46] <ash_workz> (see you on the other side)
[15:46] <joelio> you'll be fine
[15:46] <davsantos> would be easier if someone could tell me a download link where I can get a working iso
[15:46] <davsantos> :)
[15:46] <joelio> just run update-grub after to be certain no dangling symlinks
[15:46] <joelio> ash_workz: ^ before a reboot±
[15:46] <davsantos> anyways I am trying to download Vista from another source
[15:47] <ash_workz> joelio: you say that now, but wait till I loose my connection :P
[15:47] <joelio> lol
[15:47] <EriC^^> davsantos: try asking in ##windows they might know about it
[15:47] <netvixtra> the vista isos is up for grabs at microsoft.com
[15:47] <ash_workz> so far so good
[15:47] <ash_workz> oh look at that
[15:47] <ash_workz> am I still connected too?
[15:47] <joelio> pong
[15:47] <ash_workz> wow!
[15:47] <ash_workz> amazing
[15:48] <ash_workz> should I attempt an upgrade now?
[15:48] <EriC^^> :D
[15:48] <ash_workz> or a dist-upgrade ?! *erie music*
[15:48] <joelio> apt full-upgrade now
[15:48] <ash_workz> yeah, that's what I was thinking... but didn't autoremove already do a lot of full-s work?
[15:48] <joelio> or apt-get dist-upgrade for the old skool feel :)
[15:49] <ash_workz> oh, nothing to do for full-
[15:49] <joelio> ash_workz: and you did an apt-get update too aye?
[15:49] <ash_workz> maaaaaaybe
[15:49] <ash_workz> (not)
[15:49] <EriC^^> :D
[15:50] <ash_workz> ¬.¬
[15:50] <ash_workz> ;¬.¬
[15:50] <Desetude> Hey all, I'm trying to install Ubuntu via CD but after attempting to do so my screen was stuck on 'failed to load fecs inst' and 'start job running for live cd installer' causing me to have to force shut down my PC. There is no option on UEFI boot menu for the hard drive I installed ubuntu on and if I use legacy BIOS, there's just a blinking cursor on my screen.
[15:50] <ash_workz> what the hell? W: There is no public key available for the following key IDs:1397BC53640DB551
[15:50] <SchrodingersScat> I would try another cd/dvd
[15:51] <ash_workz> SchrodingersScat: you're nick is kinda gross
[15:51] <k1l> ash_workz: sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 1397BC53640DB551
[15:51] <ash_workz> considering the implication is that you're talking about a human... not a cat
[15:52] <ash_workz> k1l: why was that necessary?
[15:52] <SchrodingersScat> ash_workz: be-bop-skiddly, etc.
[15:52] <k1l> because you somehow lost the google package signing public key
[15:53] <ash_workz> k1l: do I have a nanoscopic troll destroying my computer from the inside?
[15:53] <ash_workz> oh... hmm..
[15:53] <ash_workz> ^ @ SchrodingersScat
[15:53] <k1l> i dont know what you did to your system. i only know that this command wil solve your issue with the missing key
[15:54] <ash_workz> joelio: apt-get update did not give full-upgrade any more work to do =·
[15:55] <ash_workz> so I guess that's that
[15:55] <ash_workz> k1l: probably something i installed
[15:55]  * ash_workz shurg
[15:56] <ash_workz> shrug*; but yeah, I wish I knew all the ways I screw up the system... seems like I have a nack for doing things inadvertently without even doing anything really technical
[15:57] <EriC^^> ash_workz: what does dpkg -l linux-image* look like now?
[15:57] <Guest51624> hello I have a problem, my touchpad work only after suspension. I have an asus f550l touchpad elatech. I run ubuntu 16.04
[15:58] <ash_workz> EriC^^: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/82d826352fbd401a46a51750eb94fc67
[15:58] <EriC^^> Guest51624: did you try adding any acpi stuff to grub?
[15:59] <EriC^^> ash_workz: wow it kept a lot of them
[15:59] <Guest51624> @EriC^^ no
[15:59] <EriC^^> ash_workz: try sudo apt-get purge linux-image-3.19.0-{58,59,61,64,65,66,68}-generic
[16:00] <EriC^^> that should remove the configs from the ones it removed already too
[16:01] <EriC^^> ash_workz: i think you need to remove linux-image-generic-lts-vivid as well, you already have the lts-xenial one there
[16:01] <ash_workz> EriC^^: fyi before I do that, I don't have that many 3.19 images
[16:01] <Guest51624> exit
[16:01] <EriC^^> ash_workz: you mean in /boot?
[16:01] <spacecrab> quick, what comes to mind for the word 'ashy'
[16:01] <ash_workz> EriC^^: erm.. I mean that are ii
[16:02] <Freename> FOR THE UBUNTUUU :P
[16:02] <EriC^^> Guest51624: still there?
[16:02] <ash_workz> but I suppose your intention was to get rid of conf files too
[16:02] <ash_workz> *shrug*
[16:02] <EriC^^> ash_workz: yeah
[16:02] <davsantos> what is the best screensharing software for Ubuntu. Is the one come out of the box any good?
[16:02] <EriC^^> davsantos: obs project is pretty awesome for recording stuff off the screen
[16:03] <ash_workz> what about vivid? purge or dpkg -r ?
[16:03] <Freename> For the SteamOS. Ubuntu bad performance in game :/ SteamOS like a Windows
[16:03] <davsantos> recording or live streaming?
[16:03] <EriC^^> ash_workz: purge
[16:03] <EriC^^> davsantos: not sure if it can live stream..mm
[16:03] <ash_workz> and the headers?
[16:03] <wadadli> DevAntoine: *best* and *better* are subjective to your *needs*
[16:04] <EriC^^> davsantos: ah i think it can, check here https://obsproject.com/
[16:05] <EriC^^> does anybody have any experience getting an hp allinone printer to work with linux? i tried the hplip and the hp-setup program but it wants me to temporarily connect a usb cable to the printer and it didn't come with one, just wireless
[16:05] <ash_workz> and what about image-extra?
[16:05] <EriC^^> ash_workz: they should remove automatically when the linux-image get removed
[16:06] <ash_workz> EriC^^: doesn't appear so with the last pruge
[16:06] <ash_workz> purge*
[16:06] <EriC^^> oh
[16:06] <EriC^^> purge the suckers
[16:06] <EriC^^> :D
[16:06] <ash_workz> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/cac72c4e743e94d092846b500d9aed9a
[16:07] <k1l> ash_workz: 14.04 or 16.04?
[16:07] <ash_workz> k1l: 140.4
[16:07] <ash_workz> ugh
[16:07] <k1l> ah ok.
[16:07] <EriC^^> ash_workz: oh, it removed them without purging
[16:08] <k1l> still purge linux-headers-generic-lts-vivid
[16:08] <k1l> lines starting with ii are installed. not the ones with rc
[16:08] <ash_workz> right
[16:08] <EriC^^> ash_workz: try dpkg -l | awk '$1 ~ /rc/ {print $2}' | xargs sudo apt-get purge
[16:08] <ash_workz> but lots of ii for headers
[16:08] <EriC^^> wait that removes everything that
[16:08] <EriC^^> still only has the configs left
 still purge linux-headers-generic-lts-vivid
[16:08] <ash_workz> EriC^^: xargs?
[16:08] <ash_workz> :(
[16:09] <ash_workz> I guess that's necessary; I've trained my brain to stay away from xargs because of find
[16:09] <egggs> exit
[16:09] <k1l> purge the package. then run "sudo apt-get autoremove". then run "sudo apt install linux-generic-lts-xenial"
[16:10] <ash_workz> but just out of curiousity, couldn't you do `sudo awk '$1 ~ /rc/ { apt-get purge $2 }'` ?
[16:10] <EriC^^> ash_workz: try dpkg -l | awk '$1 ~ /rc/ && $2 ~ /linux-image/ {print $2}' | xargs sudo apt-get purge
[16:10] <EriC^^> ash_workz: nope
[16:11] <EriC^^> i dont think you can run external commands from awk like that
[16:11] <ash_workz> what bout `dpkg -l linux-image | awk '$1 ~ /rc/ {print $2}' | xargs sudo apt-get purge`
[16:11] <risen> hello
[16:12] <k1l> ash_workz: what about you just purge the metapackage and run autoremove?
[16:12] <EriC^^> i'm pretty sure there might be some way i guess, i've heard awk is pretty big and stuff
[16:12] <Shawn196|Lubuntu> anyone know how to install unetbootin on lubuntu 64-bit?
[16:12] <ash_workz> k1l: metapacakge?
[16:12] <EriC^^> ash_workz: yeah that works, it removes everything that just has rc though
[16:12] <k1l> ash_workz: you want to get rid of the 3.19 headers, right?
[16:13] <EriC^^> adding && $2 ~ /linux-image/ will look for the linux-images only if you want that
[16:13] <ash_workz> k1l: yeah (that seems to be a good thing to do...)
[16:13] <k1l> ash_workz: purge linux-headers-generic-lts-vivid
[16:13] <ash_workz> k1l: apt-get purge?
[16:13] <k1l> afterthat run apt-get autoremove
[16:13] <k1l> ye
[16:14] <ash_workz> it's running
[16:15] <ash_workz> (-running & running-running & running running...)
[16:15] <EriC^^> autoclean is a good one, it removes the cache that can no longer be used anyways, like old program versions and stuff
[16:15] <ash_workz> so...
[16:16] <ash_workz> k1l: after that, I still have the ii headers
[16:16] <k1l> can you show on gist again?
[16:16] <ash_workz> but the image and image-extra are rc
[16:16] <ash_workz> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/555c9389b75a8bb6a005611fd5495aa4
[16:17] <k1l> ash_workz: ok. "sudo apt-get purge linux-headers-3.19*"
[16:17] <tak_fate> 12321
[16:18] <k1l> ash_workz: afterwards run "sudo apt install linux-generic-lts-xenial" to make sure you got the correct metapackage that pulls always the latest kernel and headers you need.
[16:18] <ash_workz> k1l: what about linux-...-3.19.0-68 ?
[16:19] <k1l> ash_workz: the * will take care of all 3.19 headers
[16:19] <ash_workz> k1l: right, but I thought I was supposed to keep -68 ?
[16:20] <k1l> why that?
[16:20] <ash_workz> also, what's with the `un linux-headers <none> <none> (no description available)`
[16:20] <ash_workz> k1l: I dunno, that seemed to be the direction EriC^^ was taking me?
[16:20] <EriC^^> ash_workz: that's cause you did dpkg -l linux* so it shows everything
[16:20] <k1l> ash_workz: the regular kernel for 14.04 is 3.13. that is what the linux-image and linux-headers package will link to. but you dont want that
[16:20] <EriC^^> ash_workz: oh no, 68 isn't needed at all
[16:21] <k1l> 3.19 kernel is dead. no need to keep that
[16:21] <Rapture> my rc.local file doesn't seem to execute after booting up. What could I look at to see why or how to get it to trigger?
[16:21] <ash_workz> yay
[16:21] <ash_workz> okay
[16:21] <ash_workz> thanks!
[16:21] <Metamorphosis> anybody with any success in installing rpm packages on ubuntu?
[16:21] <EriC^^> Rapture: did it used to execute?
[16:21]  * ash_workz wipes sweat off forehead
[16:21] <k1l> Metamorphosis: there is alien, but are you sure there are no deb packages?
[16:21] <Rapture> EriC6^: New vm, haven't tried
[16:21] <Rapture> EriC^^
[16:22] <Metamorphosis> k1l yes its some proprietary software designed to work on RHEL.
[16:22] <k1l> Metamorphosis: uh.
[16:22] <EriC^^> Rapture: obvious question, but is the stuff before the exit 0?
[16:23] <Rapture> EriC^^: yes, my rc.local is very simple - just updates a file
[16:24] <EriC^^> Rapture: maybe try to simplify it completely, like touch /newfile to see if that runs?
[16:24] <ash_workz> Someone help me with vocab: xenial is the linux *kernel* code name for version 4.x, right? Trusty is the code name for linux *__?__* for version 14.x
[16:24] <Rapture> EriC^^: For the curious: http://pastebin.com/raw/PrJ5Wmtr
[16:24] <szb> I'm having a weird 'problem': I tried adding additional indicator icons to the panel (the package can be found here: https://askubuntu.com/a/613967) That did however not work at all and I purged it again! But now there is some sort of artifact underneath my panel (here's a screenshot: https://postimg.org/image/6c3pzotnj) It just sits there and does nothing! However my eyes are constantly drawn to it and it's annoying! If the package did
[16:24] <szb> not remove correctly, where could I look for remaining files? In don't see anything in the startup list and nothing in my ~/.conf!
[16:24] <EriC^^> ash_workz: xenial is 16.04, trusty is 14.04
[16:25] <SonikkuAmerica> szb - um, what .conf file?
[16:25] <EriC^^> xenial has 4.4 as the kernel, trusty 3.13
[16:25] <ash_workz> then what was vivid?
[16:25] <EriC^^> 15.04
[16:25] <ash_workz> ... which is also 3.x kernel?
[16:25] <EriC^^> yeah 3.19
[16:26] <ash_workz> so...I was running 15.04?
[16:26] <szb> SonikkuAmerica: I meant the hidden .conf/ directory in my Home! (Not sure if it would create files there, though) I don't really know where there might be some leftovers, tbh!
[16:26] <EriC^^> ash_workz: no, that's just a hwe (hardware enablement stack) kernel
[16:26] <k1l> no. the ubuntu LTS (14.04, 16.04) get the chance to install the kernels from the newer ubuntu. like you not install the LTS kernel from 16.04
[16:26] <EriC^^> ash_workz: it's so you can use newer kernels on older releases that are lts
[16:26] <SonikkuAmerica> szb - you mean .config
[16:27] <szb> SonikkuAmerica: whoops, apologies! yes, .config!
[16:28] <ash_workz> not sure I follow, but ok! in any case, so I am running the *_____* (v. 14.04 [trusty]) on the *kernel* (v.4.x [xenial])
[16:29] <SonikkuAmerica> szb - gimme a moment, I'm on my phone and need to look at it on a computer
[16:29] <bumbar_> i'm trying to install some qt tools; i need qttools5-dev-tools but apt says this package depends on qtbase-abi-5-5-1 (which is in libqt5core5a according to http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/qtbase-abi-5-5-1 but i already have libqt5core5a installed)
[16:29] <ash_workz> system? ... os? ... distro? ... distro! probably distor
[16:29] <ash_workz> distro*
[16:30] <k1l> ash_workz: you are running ubuntu 14.04 with the backported 4.4 kernel from 16.04
[16:31] <ash_workz> k1l: the fact that kernels and (distros?) have similar codenames doesn't get confusing? (I'm going with distro, final answer)
[16:31] <k1l> ash_workz: kernels dont have codenames.
[16:31] <k1l> ash_workz: we just name the name with which ubuntu they were comming originally
[16:32] <ash_workz> k1l: s/(the) (name)/\1 file\2/ ?
[16:32] <k1l> ash_workz: because there are kernels 4.3 and 4.5. but they are not included in any ubuntu since ubuntu was released when 4.4 was the actual kernel
[16:32] <k1l> *ubuntu 16.04 was released when kenrel 4.4 was the latest
[16:33] <ash_workz> okay, I think I get it
[16:33] <ash_workz> but am I wrong to refer to (trusty, vivid, xenial, etc) as distros
[16:33] <ash_workz> ?
[16:34] <laszlowaty> ash_workz, yes
[16:34] <ash_workz> laszlowaty: yes, I am wrong?
[16:34] <laszlowaty> ash_workz, yes, you are wrong :) those are releases of the distro
[16:34] <k1l> ash_workz: ok. new approach: the kernel package for ubuntu releases is always named: "linux-generic". and that is linked to only one kernel number. which is 3.13 on the ubuntu 14.04 (called trusty). but since you now have a the kernel 4.4 you need to install the other package called "linux-generic-lts-xenial" because that is linked to the 4.4 kernel.
[16:35] <ash_workz> releases!
[16:35] <ash_workz> I see
[16:35] <ash_workz> should've used a lifeline
[16:35] <ash_workz> anyway
[16:35] <ash_workz> whats a distro then?
[16:36] <p1l0t> distribution
[16:36] <ash_workz> ¬.¬
[16:36] <k1l> ubuntu
[16:36] <SonikkuAmerica> szb: I'm back. Thanks for waiting.
[16:36] <ash_workz> vs lubuntu, vs kubuntu, etc?
[16:36] <laszlowaty> ash_workz, exactly
[16:36] <ash_workz> whats a flavor?
[16:37] <SonikkuAmerica> szb: Can you link the 2 screenshots again?
[16:37] <szb> SonikkuAmerica: Thank you for taking time to look into it! :)
[16:37] <SonikkuAmerica> !flavours | ash_workz
[16:37] <k1l> ash_workz: kubuntu, xubuntu etc
[16:37] <ash_workz> distro == flavor?
[16:37] <k1l> no
[16:37] <ash_workz> :(
[16:37] <szb> SonikkuAmerica: The package i tried to install: https://askubuntu.com/a/613967  -- and the scrot: https://postimg.org/image/6c3pzotnj/# (this is *after* purging the package and the ppa)
[16:38] <EriC^^> ubuntu is the distro, the flavors are kubuntu etc. which is ubuntu + a certain de and programs, like ubuntu + kde and the programs for kde
[16:38] <laszlowaty> ash_workz, http://www.ubuntu.com/about/about-ubuntu/flavours
[16:38] <EriC^^> ash_workz: ^
[16:38] <k1l> distro is the main project. flavors are the same codebase but just different preinstalled desktops or settings
[16:38] <ash_workz> so...
[16:38] <ash_workz> what's a distro?
[16:38] <ash_workz> mint?
[16:38] <EriC^^> the distro is the kernel + package manager basically
[16:38] <SonikkuAmerica> szb: OK, you'll want to contact the developers, as it's a PPA
[16:39] <SonikkuAmerica> !ppa | szb
[16:39] <k1l> !distribution
[16:39]  * ash_workz blinks
[16:39] <laszlowaty> ash_workz, distros are different linuxes and flavors are just different kinds of particular distro
[16:39] <trism> bumbar_: can you pastebin the actual output when you try to install qttools5-dev-tools
[16:39] <k1l> mint is grey area. that is a bad example
[16:39] <Peppernrino> distro = distribution
[16:40] <szb> Will do! Thanks for your time, I really appreciate it! :)
[16:40] <ash_workz> laszlowaty: so, in order of specificity... Distro > flavor > release > kernel
[16:40] <laszlowaty> No :)
[16:40] <k1l> ash_workz: scratch kernel.
[16:40] <ash_workz> okay
[16:41] <k1l> kernel is part of the release.
[16:41] <laszlowaty> ash_workz, take this course (it's free): https://www.edx.org/course/introduction-linux-linuxfoundationx-lfs101x-0#.VMusFy50vlc
[16:41] <laszlowaty> ash_workz, everything you need to know about linuxes to get you going
[16:41] <ash_workz> bookmarked
[16:41] <ash_workz> okay!
[16:41] <Peppernrino> bookmark? you mean quitter strip?!
[16:42] <ash_workz> one more question before I head off to do some actual work
[16:42] <ash_workz> Peppernrino: hopefully not
[16:42] <Peppernrino> :P
[16:42] <ash_workz> anywho
[16:42] <Peppernrino> was one of those "manly" memes.
[16:42] <szb> SonikkuAmerica: Sorry, forgot to append your nick! I'll do that! Thank you kindly for your time again (in case you didn't see my previous response)!
[16:42] <k1l> ash_workz: think of distribution as of a car model. and from one model (the ubuntu SUV) there are different flavors. like the sport package one. the fuel efficenty one etc. they are all the same model but different setups on the same base.
[16:42] <ash_workz> can you like... change partitions without using a livecd by doing it in.... grub or whatever?
[16:42] <SonikkuAmerica> szb: You're welcome!
[16:43] <Peppernrino> would desktop environments be akin to dashboard options, then? going with the car metaphor...
[16:43] <k1l> ash_workz: no
[16:43] <ash_workz> k1l: oh... I was thinking of distro like a make
[16:43] <friedoniongravy> ash_workz, can, probably shouldn't is my understanding
[16:43] <Peppernrino> lxde has a 6-disc changer!
[16:43] <ash_workz> wow... lxde is super old
[16:43] <ash_workz> jk
[16:44] <Peppernrino> it's light. i'm looking at it and enlightenment for some stuff i'm doign...
[16:44] <laszlowaty> ash_workz, just jump into course I have you. It will answer all your questions, and it will give you some experience (there are videos and practical excersies)
[16:44] <Peppernrino> trying to make something that can run on "anything"
[16:45] <ash_workz> gl
[16:45] <netvixtra> LXDE is the OS E Corp uses?
[16:45] <Peppernrino> no doubt. i'm about a month past where you are. :P
[16:45] <SonikkuAmerica> netvixtra: what?
[16:45] <Peppernrino> lol mr robot
[16:45] <k1l> netvixtra: lxde is no OS. its a DE (desktop environment)
[16:46] <Peppernrino> lxde, kde, gnome...
[16:46] <netvixtra> Oh, sorry k1l
[16:46] <laszlowaty> Peppernrino, and mate!
[16:46] <ash_workz> okay... so I really do, really hafta dl the livecd
[16:46] <Peppernrino> i literally learned this stuff 2 days ago
[16:46] <laszlowaty> ash_workz, just use the program like "Rufus" to make bootable usb
[16:47] <Peppernrino> you go in trying to rebuild the kernel, and then you realize you don't even know what bash is...
[16:47] <k1l> ash_workz: you did install ubuntu somehow. why not use that cd/dv/usb?
[16:47] <ash_workz> laszlowaty: fiiine! I'll do you seemingly really easy, simple solution. :P :)
[16:47] <ash_workz> k1l: because that is in some cabinet in an alternate universe
[16:48] <k1l> ash_workz: so load the image. it doesnt hurt
[16:48] <ash_workz> s/load/download ?
[16:48] <k1l> yes
[16:48] <Peppernrino> laszlowaty: mate is also tiny?
[16:48] <bumbar_> trism, https://dpaste.de/d5TA
[16:49] <ash_workz> mate is a thing!?
[16:49] <ash_workz> I just thought laszlowaty was austrailian
[16:49] <Peppernrino> ubuntumate
[16:49] <Peppernrino> ash: linux has weird names for everything.
[16:49] <ash_workz> is the aussie linux
[16:49] <Peppernrino> lol
[16:49] <Peppernrino> uk too
[16:49] <laszlowaty> I'm Polish actually
[16:49] <Peppernrino> lolol
[16:50] <laszlowaty> Peppernrino, it's not that tiny
[16:50] <Peppernrino> idk why that's so funny right now
[16:50] <laszlowaty> Peppernrino, but it's light
[16:50] <laszlowaty> Peppernrino, and it's basically gnome 2
[16:50] <ash_workz> anyway, k1l do you advise against laszlowaty 's earlier 'Rufus' suggestion?
[16:50] <Peppernrino> ok. it's not like it's easy to find a USB stick <4GB now anyway...
[16:51] <k1l> ash_workz: on ubuntu just use usb maker. or dd on terminal
[16:51] <ktchk> remastersys running??
[16:51] <netvixtra> kurwa
[16:51] <Peppernrino> i like rufus.
[16:51] <ash_workz> I don't suppose I'll be able to simply resize when I upgrade to 16 ?
[16:51] <laszlowaty> netvixtra, congrats :)
[16:51] <Peppernrino> corva sin
[16:52] <ash_workz> k1l is implying heavy hesitation against rufus for some reason
[16:52] <netvixtra> k1l: please instruct him to use larger blocks so he won't stick around the next day waiting?
[16:52] <Peppernrino> hm
[16:52] <k1l> rufus is for when you run windows
[16:52] <ash_workz> oh
[16:52] <laszlowaty> isn't ash_workz runing windows? :)
[16:52] <Peppernrino> rufus can still make linux installs...
[16:52] <ash_workz> nope
[16:52] <trism> bumbar_: what is apt-cache policy qttools5-dev-tools libqt5designer5;
[16:52] <laszlowaty> ohh, my bad, sorry :)
[16:53] <Peppernrino> commandline rufus
[16:53] <netvixtra> use dd then
[16:53] <Peppernrino> don't give up lol
[16:53] <ash_workz> I might talk like a guy who's been running windows all his life (he has) but this compy is not so
[16:53] <k1l> ash_workz: i guess you first load the image and dont confuse yourself too much in the meantime :)
[16:53] <laszlowaty> ash_workz, what are you running?
[16:53] <ash_workz> k1l: I have a quote for you
[16:54] <laszlowaty> damn I am literally waiting more than 1.5h for my food.
[16:55] <bumbar_> trism, https://dpaste.de/pOO6
[16:55]  * laszlowaty will install linux for food.
[16:56] <netvixtra> business as usual in Poland?
[16:56] <ash_workz> k1l: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/de747fac53502c1facdc97f020196b42
[16:56]  * netvixtra hides
[16:56] <audreeliss> how to create bootable usb on linux ?
[16:56] <ash_workz> laszlowaty: 14.04
[16:57] <laszlowaty> netvixtra, it's friday, so yeah...
[16:57] <netvixtra> laszlowaty: bah
[16:57] <laszlowaty> audreeliss, which linux?
[16:57] <trism> bumbar_: what if you try to install libqt5designer5
[16:57] <ash_workz> k1l: does that cite need more context? :P
[16:57] <audreeliss> ubuntu 16.04
[16:57] <laszlowaty> audreeliss, http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-ubuntu
[16:58] <ash_workz> maybe it does need more context
[16:59] <laszlowaty> ash_workz, http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-ubuntu
[16:59] <ash_workz> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/a4165071df6021be322d74e9c5672d17
[16:59] <ash_workz> there we go
[16:59] <ash_workz> laszlowaty: thanks
[17:00] <netvixtra> wtf, suddenly 113 updates
[17:00] <audreeliss> laszlowaty, broken windows iso files
[17:01] <audreeliss> As I understand it only works with linux iso files
[17:01] <laszlowaty> audreeliss, yes :)
[17:01] <netvixtra> use dd....
[17:01] <bumbar_> trism, libqt5designer5 : Depends: qtbase-abi-5-5-1
[17:02] <laszlowaty> audreeliss, http://en.congelli.eu/prog_info_winusb.html
[17:02] <laszlowaty> audreeliss, you can use this software to create windows bootable usb from within ubuntu
[17:02] <audreeliss> thx :)
[17:03] <netvixtra> or just use dd
[17:03] <netvixtra> :P
[17:03] <bumbar_> trism, i'll try completely reinstalling qt
[17:04] <trism> bumbar_: no wait
[17:04] <laszlowaty> damn, I just called delivery boy. '15 more minutes, 15 more minutes, almost there!'
[17:04] <davsantos> anyone can help me with a problem I have running cordova?
[17:04] <davsantos> is there a channel for that?
[17:04] <akik> laszlowaty: does winusb do the same thing than wintousb? a bootable usb windows installation media
[17:05] <laszlowaty> akik, I don't know wintousb
[17:05] <trism> bumbar_: in software-properties-gtk on the Updates tab do you have Recommended updates (xenial-updates) enabled?
[17:05] <ash_workz> I am convinced there are nanoscopic trolls in my computer playing tricks on me
[17:06] <bumbar_> trism, yes
[17:06] <bumbar_> also unsupported updates
[17:06] <laszlowaty> ash_workz, dwarf probably
[17:06] <Shawn196|Lubuntu> found my problem lol
[17:06] <ash_workz> if I skip a whole 4 steps  of checking... something explodes. But if I walk through it step by step; it works.... you'd think "well you found your problem", but the result is the saaaa~me.... -_-
[17:07] <trism> bumbar_: what is apt-cache policy libqt5core5a
[17:07] <Shawn196|Lubuntu> I added some 1.93W thermal paste to replace the crappy reused thermal gel pads
[17:07] <Shawn196|Lubuntu> and already the fan runs less
[17:08] <Shawn196|Lubuntu> guess linux was shutting down when overheating was taking place
[17:08] <bumbar_> trism, https://dpaste.de/TO2B
[17:08] <laszlowaty> Shawn196|Lubuntu, probably :D
[17:08] <trism> bumbar_: there we are, try: sudo apt-get install libqt5core5a/xenial;
[17:09]  * netvixtra hands laszlowaty a bag of krőwka
[17:09] <ash_workz> Thank you: EriC^^ k1l joelio laszlowaty BluesKaj — less you feel your efforts go unappreciated; thank you very much :)
[17:09] <trism> bumbar_: don't say yes if it wants to remove alot of stuff just pastebin it
[17:09]  * laszlowaty eats everything, including the bag.
[17:09] <ash_workz> lest* ?
[17:10] <bumbar_> trism, too late xD. didn't see, but a bunch of packages were removed, and says some will be downgraded
[17:10] <ash_workz> yeah.. lest! ... I didn't realize that was a real word
[17:10] <trism> bumbar_: well we want to downgrade libqt5core5a because you have a package leftover probably from some ppa
[17:11] <trism> bumbar_: which is causing the weird errors trying to install the repo qttools5
[17:17] <nick903487034954> can someone here tell me the commands i need to enter to register my nick?
[17:17] <br_did> hi guys
[17:18] <BluesKaj> nick903487034954, go to the server box/tab and type !register help
[17:18] <br_did> why make custom iso with UCK, legacy work but UEFI wont?
[17:18] <br_did> grub-efi-signed error
[17:19] <nick903487034954> where's the server box/tab? (I'm on ubuntu 12.04 using the empathy client)
[17:20] <kostkon> !register | nick903487034954
[17:20] <nick903487034954> thanks!
[17:22] <br_did> why make custom iso with UCK, legacy work but UEFI wont? grub-efi-signed error!
[17:24] <bumbar_> trism, cool, got it working. thanks for your time
[17:24] <trism> bumbar_: np
[17:24] <maret> Hi everyone, I switched shortcut for moving between workspaces up and down (Move to workspace above/below)in Ubuntu gnome I set shortcut to super+up , but when I command for window maximaze is triggered
[17:25] <pour> e
[17:27] <Peppernrino> ... /var/log/dist-upgrade/ is empty...
[17:27] <ruicruz> hi. im trying to decrypt a file and I have a key (not a file, just a key). i was hoping that when I did "gpg --decrypt file.gpg" it asks me for a key, but it does not. anything I am missing here?
[17:29] <Peppernrino> copy the key to a file
[17:29] <Peppernrino> save it as **.txt
[17:29] <Peppernrino> $ gpg --decrypt a.txt.gpg > **.txt
[17:29] <Peppernrino> http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2013/02/gpg-encrypt-decrypt/comment-page-1/
[17:29] <elisa87> any idea why this happened? http://pastebin.com/V0SeG4rf when restarting tomcat8 ?
[17:30] <jatt> check the tomcat logs
[17:36] <Peppernrino> from what i can see in the log... it's doing that thing where it installs 304.131 as the driver, but 304.20 as nvidia-settings...
[17:36] <Peppernrino> neither of those are current... and i used suod apt-get install nvidia-currnet
[17:36] <Peppernrino> ent*
[17:38] <V7> Hey all
[17:38] <V7> In 16.04 on charging my display is turning of after 5-10 mins
[17:40] <elisa87> here's my catalina.out http://pastebin.com/TZydb7Ed
[17:42] <osama> hey.. I have just apt-get segmentation fault error
[17:43] <osama> and more it says http closed unexpectedly
[17:44] <Peppernrino> maybe there was an update to the program while you were updating it?
[17:46] <artur> Is it good way if thinking when I will try run dsl knoopix with bach???
[17:46] <osama> Peppernrino: didn;t get it, Can you please explain
[17:49] <salamanderrake> how do I request ubuntu to update a packge for security reasons?
[17:51] <ducasse> salamanderrake: file a bug against it, there's a checkbox to notify the security team near the bottom of the page.
[17:53] <friedoniongravy> So linux is worse for C# than windows?
[17:53] <pour> e
[17:53] <friedoniongravy> development I mean
[17:55] <laszlowaty> friedoniongravy, well... c# is microsoft product
[17:56] <osama> friedoniongravy: every dot NET thing is not best suite for linux atleast today
[17:56] <friedoniongravy> laszlowaty, yeah, I know that, .net core and mono make it possible now though it seems.  Just seeing if I was missing something to make the process more pleasant
[17:57] <friedoniongravy> osama, a real shame.  I've heard nothing but good things about the actual structure of .net and C#
[17:57] <friedoniongravy> seriously, not a single complaint
[17:57]  * netvixtra hands over friedoniongravy to laszlowaty, warmed up and ready to eat
[17:59]  * laszlowaty eats his delicious meal.
[17:59] <laszlowaty> netvixtra, finally got my food. Terrible.
[17:59] <osama> friedoniongravy: one bad this is most of dot NET is not open source
[17:59] <laszlowaty> friedoniongravy, tbh I have no idea. Never tried developing c# under linux
[18:00] <kisb> C# runs best on Windows
[18:00] <friedoniongravy> osama, sorry, I meant besides the microsoft/closed source complaint
[18:00] <kisb> Try Java its more cross platform
[18:00] <osama> friedoniongravy: If you really wanna develop c# just use a VM like i'm doing this for my university work
[18:01] <friedoniongravy> kisb, I'm not a masochist, sorry
[18:01] <laszlowaty> btw, did you know that there is a 'picture of the day' website made by nasa? Na it's updated everyday since 1995. http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/astropix.html
[18:01] <friedoniongravy> osama, curious, you reccomend a vm over dual booting?
[18:01] <netvixtra> laszlowaty: what, is friedoniongravy better?
[18:02] <laszlowaty> netvixtra, definetely. At least he is warm.
[18:02] <friedoniongravy> I am very warm
[18:02] <kisb> friedoniongravy, those are just Java jokes
[18:02] <friedoniongravy> kisb, honestly the reason is I don't know java
[18:02] <kisb> there is also python
[18:02] <netvixtra> laszlowaty: makes me curious of what food you eventually received.
[18:02] <osama> friedoniongravy: yes its because my hard is encrypted and I don't wanna make some partition unencrypted to just do dual boot
[18:02] <friedoniongravy> kisb, I'm making a game so I don't want it to be interpreted.  Python is great though
[18:03] <laszlowaty> And this inspire me to made a little script to get random picture from that nasa website and use it as background picture.
[18:03] <laszlowaty> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/78db790755cd9ca3c5c1123689ecd259
[18:03] <laszlowaty> enjoy :)
[18:03] <kisb> 3D?
[18:03] <laszlowaty> netvixtra, cold, dry, cooked instead of fried. Missing cookie. Missing soup.
[18:04] <Myrtti> you've steered quite far from Ubuntu support...
[18:04] <friedoniongravy> kisb, nope, its a 2d roguelike.  I might add 3d graphics or something later, but the gameplay and logic is all 2d
[18:04] <friedoniongravy> kisb, I'mma probably use Unity as a visual frontend if it ever gets to that point
[18:04] <friedoniongravy> osama, makes sense
[18:04] <kisb> Unreal engine
[18:04] <netvixtra> laszlowaty: gotcha. Nice NASA feed.
[18:05] <laszlowaty> netvixtra, but at least my pepsi was hot :)
[18:05] <friedoniongravy> kisb, I don't think it plays as nicely with C# unfortunatly.  And coding everything in C++ would just increase my headaches
[18:06] <friedoniongravy> kisb, not like I need C++ level performance anyways.  It'll probably be less demanding then nethack
[18:06] <laszlowaty> friedoniongravy, nethack? ueh! angband rulez :)
[18:06] <friedoniongravy> laszlowaty, my loves are sil, brogue and dcss personally
[18:06] <friedoniongravy> hence why I'm making a roguelike
[18:06] <V7> Why my screen just shuts off when comp is charging ?!
[18:07] <laszlowaty> V7, check your power management options maybe?
[18:07] <netvixtra> laszlowaty: just need to alter it a bit to get it working in i3
[18:07] <laszlowaty> netvixtra, :D
[18:08] <kisb> friedoniongravy, its like you plan to use Linux to make a game that doesn't run on Linux. how ungrateful
[18:08] <Guest835> how to install google-chrome-stable_current_amd64
[18:08] <laszlowaty> Guest835, sudo dpkg -i google-chrome-stable_current_amd64
[18:08] <friedoniongravy> kisb, it should run on linux.  I'm using monogame for now
[18:10] <Karaxen> hello, is their any graphical program that i can use to connect to scp? i can only connect with that not ssh or the others
[18:10] <V7> laszlowaty: Where ?
[18:10] <netvixtra> laszlowaty: Actually had to use feh to get it working with transparent workspaces.. :/
[18:11] <Guest835> unexpected exit status 2 from dpkg-split
[18:11] <jatt> Karaxen: nautilus
[18:11] <Guest835> got error
[18:11] <Karaxen> thx
[18:11] <V7> laszlowaty: http://i.imgur.com/omQKc1d.png
[18:12] <blinko> hi, does anyone know how to enable hooks in ubuntu? I want to configure luks but I have no idea how. I can't find anything current online :(
[18:13] <SwedeMike> blinko: hooks?
[18:13] <Guest835> how to install software for unzipped file
[18:13] <Guest835> *from
[18:14] <xangua> Guest835: what software do you wish to install?
[18:14] <SwedeMike> blinko: luks partitions go into /etc/crypttab if that's what you were after?
[18:14] <Guest835> chrome
[18:15] <Guest835> xangua Google chrome browser
[18:15] <jatt> install chrome from google repo not from unzipped file
[18:15] <Guest835> I've downloaded the file and also xtract it but
[18:16] <Guest835> where do i find that repo
[18:17] <jatt> Guest835: http://askubuntu.com/questions/510056/how-to-install-google-chrome
[18:18] <Guest835> jatt thanks buddy
[18:18] <blinko> SwedeMike: Thanks, is there a way to activate the hooks I need like in arch linux?
[18:19] <SwedeMike> blinko: I have no idea what you mean by "activate the hooks".
[18:19] <eodnhoj> hell
[18:19] <eodnhoj> hello*
[18:19] <ger> hey
[18:19] <laszlowaty> ok be back in few hours
[18:19] <laszlowaty> :)
[18:19] <blinko> SwedeMike: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/mkinitcpio#HOOKS
[18:20] <friedoniongravy> For routine tasks should I use systemd or chron now?
[18:21] <blinko> SwedeMike: for instance: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Dm-crypt/Encrypting_an_entire_system#Configuring_mkinitcpio
[18:21] <Fah> blinko: i think what you're after is how to tweak the initrd used to boot? start with update-initramfs
[18:22] <Fah> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/precise/man8/initramfs-tools.8.html talks about the hooks specifically
[18:22] <blinko> Fah: Ok, so I just create /etc/crypttab run update-initramfs -u -k all and everything is set? Nice Thanks
[18:23] <Fah> no prob
[18:25] <moat_joe> I'm having trouble getting apache to start using: "WSGIDaemonProcess cmd_server user=ubuntu group=ubuntu processes=32 maximum-requests=10" getting a ton of "Resource temporarily unavailable: mod_wsgi ... Couldn't create worker thread 10 in daemon process" messages
[18:27] <someone`> Hi there.  Where can I get the latest version of libstdc++-6 for Ubuntu trusty?
[18:28] <someone`> My system comes with libstdc++.so.6.0.19 and I need at least libstdc++.so.6.0.20.  Can you help?  Thank you.
[18:28] <someone`> By the way, I already reached this page: http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/libstdc%2B%2B6 and I need a newer version.
[18:28] <someone`> My system is a 64-bit by the way.
[18:29] <Grorco> Hi I'm not sure where to ask about this so I'm starting here, my gateway doesn't support QOS and I was woundering if anyone knew if I took an old laptop and loaded ubuntu on it if I could use ubuntu to handle QOS by setting up a static route through the ether net port?
[18:33] <ger> you can definitly do that i just have no idea how or where you would start.
[18:33] <mcphail> someone`: you can't trivially update libstdc++ without potentially breaking a huge amount of software in your system
[18:35] <mcphail> someone`: you can always unpack your chosen version elsewhere, and use the LD_PRELOAD or LD_LIBRARY_PATH variables to point to it when you use your troublesome application
[18:36] <elisa87> where is jdk path in Ubuntu?
[18:37] <Grorco> ger, do you know of any software specifically for QOS?
[18:37] <netvixtra> elisa87: have you set envvar for jdk?
[18:38] <elisa87> netvixtra: I am not sure because there has been other softwares installed on this machine. When I echo $JAVA_HOME nothing shows
[18:38] <elisa87> $ ls /usr/lib/jvm/
[18:38] <elisa87> default-java  java-1.7.0-openjdk-amd64  java-1.8.0-openjdk-amd64  java-7-openjdk-amd64  java-8-openjdk-amd64 netvixtra
[18:41] <someone`> mcphail: I don't want to update it.  I just want get hold of a new one.  For the libstdc++, LD_LIBRARY_PATH won't do.  I actually need LD_PRELOAD.  I don't know how else to get the new to be taken before the one installed in the system --- without changing ld.so.conf.  (Which I also won't do.)
[18:41] <someone`> By the way, I found a new version here: http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/pool/main/g/gcc-6/  Thank you.
[18:42] <someone`> lib64stdc++6_6.2.0-2_i386.deb -- from august 31st.
[18:43] <someone`> Here's how I need to get the dynamic linker to load my new libstd++: LD_LIBRARY_PATH=usr-local-lib LD_PRELOAD='/home/ubuntu/tmp/GW_2.26.1.0_x64_deb8_03062016/new/maxtrack_gateway/usr-local-lib/libstdc++.so.6' ./qpidd (You see, I need to explicitly preload it, otherwise the one in the system will take precedence.  The LD_LIBRARY_PATH there only gives other ordinary libraries.  If I take the PRELOAD from there, it'll take the system's
[18:43] <someone`> libstdc++.)
[18:43] <someone`>  
[18:44] <someone`> Thank you for your attention.  I'll get back to work.  Have a good day.
[18:46] <elisa87> how do you think I should solve this ? http://pastebin.com/xHF2PTf1
[18:50] <ducasse> elisa87: it's failing to download files from a server, nothing we can help you with. you'd need to ask the people on that project.
[18:50] <elisa87> what is this? so weird jalal@klein:~/computer_vision/XNAT/xnat$ sudo ./bin/setup.sh
[18:50] <elisa87> [sudo] password for jalal:
[18:50] <elisa87> The JAVA_HOME environment variable is not defined
[18:50] <elisa87> This environment variable is needed to run this program
[18:50] <elisa87> jalal@klein:~/computer_vision/XNAT/xnat$ echo $JAVA_HOME
[18:50] <elisa87> /usr/lib/jvm/java-8-openjdk-amd64/
[18:50] <ducasse> !paste | elisa87
[18:52] <_adb> elisa87: "sudo" doesn't preserve your environment as you're expecting it to. try running export JAVA_HOME; sudo env, and see if that includes your JAVA_HOME
[18:54] <_adb> actually, that didn't work in my test. but this did: sudo JAVA_HOME="$JAVA_HOME" env
[18:56] <_adb> see also the -E flag to sudo or the env_keep option in the sudoers file for other options
[18:59] <Metamorphosis> How to change Desktop environment from Unity to KDE from within ubuntu without installing kubuntu?
[19:00] <netvixtra> Metamorphosis: apt install plasma
[19:00] <ducasse> Metamorphosis: i _think_ plasma-desktop contains the kde desktop.
[19:01] <Metamorphosis> and how to remove or disable Unity after installing KDE ?
[19:01] <xangua> Metamorphosis: the best and faster way would be making a clean install
[19:01] <elisa87> _adb: http://pastebin.com/eHUYLu8c
[19:01] <Metamorphosis> You mean Kubuntu install?
[19:02] <ducasse> Metamorphosis: be careful with that, it could rip out a lot of stuff you'd want if you remove the wrong metapackage.
[19:02] <netvixtra> faster?
[19:03] <Metamorphosis> I'm comming from opensuse and honestly imho this DE is inferior compared to KDE. please help me with this
[19:03] <_adb> elisa87: sudo JAVA_HOME="$JAVA_HOME" env. see also the -E flag to sudo or the env_keep option in the sudoers file for other options
[19:04] <Starky> Metamorphosis: You can install Kubuntu: KDE + Ubuntu or install the KDE desktop metapackage
[19:04] <ducasse> Metamorphosis: ask in #kubuntu, aiui most kubuntu users use some ppa since it is more stable. (which is embarassing for an lts release.)
[19:07] <Metamorphosis> thanks guys
[19:26] <uldics> Good morning! Anyone remembers a game like worms of shooting at each other but with planets or asteroids with gravity? Google kind of stuck on all the popular kids
[19:29] <geirha> uldics: Try asking at https://www.reddit.com/r/tipofmyjoystick/
[19:30] <uldics> reddit is good, but the following is not of my taste
[19:31] <uldics> hmm, actually seems like a legit place
[19:32] <naphix> uldics, I believe the game is called Asteroids
[19:33] <uldics> Asteroids is good old classic, but that one is probably played some 10 years ago, when no Twitter and Fecebook or Android was found
[19:33] <uldics> was kind of a nice game, but no trace of it now
[19:34] <uldics> Shellshock is getting awards where that one should have been ages ago
[19:35] <Jordan_U> uldics: Slingshot?
[19:35] <uldics> And it had gravity and various weapons with specific mass, exit velocity etc
[19:36] <uldics> Slingshot .. not really, bu graphich comes somehow close
[19:39] <uldics> Slingshot seems like you have a ship, but that one had a planet based shootpoint, like ship, but with less maneuverability
[19:42] <gugui> hi
[19:42] <DArqueBishop> !ot | uldics
[19:42] <gugui> how set app to open n determinded workspace?
[19:43] <gugui> for example script: gnome-terminal -workspace 2
[19:44] <Vad3r> if I want some recommendations, ubuntu's forums would be best, yes?
[19:46] <xangua> Vad3r: recommendations of what? But yes this is not a poll channel
[19:47] <V7> Why computers screen shuts off after 5-10 mins on charging ? http://i.imgur.com/omQKc1d.png
[19:48] <gugui> how set app to open n determinded workspace, for example script: gnome-terminal -workspace 2.
[19:48] <avid_fan> gugui: You might want to look at wmctrl
[19:49] <gugui> avid_fan: okay master
[19:49] <gugui> Thanks
[19:49] <avid_fan> gugui: I've not used it, but it looks like it might help do what you want.
[19:49] <naphix> 15:47 < V7> Why computers screen shuts off after 5-10 mins on charging ? http://i.imgur.com/omQKc1d.png
[19:50] <naphix> 15:47 < V7> Why computers screen shuts off after 5-10 mins on charging ? http://i.imgur.com/omQKc1d.png
[19:50] <naphix> 15:47 < V7> Why computers screen shuts off after 5-10 mins on charging ? http://i.imgur.com/omQKc1d.png
[19:54] <OerHeks> V7 check out brightness&lock too
[19:57] <DarkSpiritAK47> hello
[19:57] <DarkSpiritAK47> i thought...
[19:57] <DarkSpiritAK47> i need help guys
[19:57] <DarkSpiritAK47> its computer related
[19:57] <DarkSpiritAK47> and you guys are really really really smart
[19:57] <DarkSpiritAK47> its just
[19:57] <DarkSpiritAK47> a crazy ting
[19:57] <DarkSpiritAK47> its not linux related well its computer related
[19:57] <DarkSpiritAK47> its internet related
[19:57] <lifted> ill help you
[19:57] <lifted> but first
[19:57] <lifted> how old are you
[19:57] <lifted> 12?
[19:57] <DarkSpiritAK47> 32
[19:57] <lifted> can we play zombies
[19:57] <lifted> anyway
[19:58] <DarkSpiritAK47> thankx lifted
[19:58] <DarkSpiritAK47> okay so i posted some stuff
[19:58] <DarkSpiritAK47> on a website
[19:58] <DarkSpiritAK47> that i didnt want posted
[19:58] <DarkSpiritAK47> i told the admin i didnt want it posted
[19:58] <DarkSpiritAK47> but he posted it anyway
[19:58] <DarkSpiritAK47> he also posted my private messages
[19:58] <DarkSpiritAK47> i dont know what to do
[19:58] <Livingroom> hello fellow Linux users. i have a question about FSTab: i have two disks listed in my fstab with the same mount point; both are attached via USB Drive dock. when one is there, the other will not be present. i have them entered as UUIDs, but unfortunately it does not mount the second drive, only trying the first, which is not present. what am i doing wrong?
[19:58] <DArqueBishop> !ot | DarkSpiritAK47
[19:58] <DarkSpiritAK47> is there any legit hire a hacker thingy?
[19:58] <MonkeyDust> DarkSpiritAK47  did you have an ubuntu suport question?
[19:58] <DarkSpiritAK47> no sorry...
[19:59] <DarkSpiritAK47> hello
[19:59] <DarkSpiritAK47> is this the ubuntu off topic place?
[19:59] <avid_fan> DarkSpiritAK47: No. Join #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:00] <OerHeks> DarkSpiritAK47, offtopic does not help you hack too, just saying
[20:00] <Jordan_U> Livingroom: Why not just have two mountpoints?
[20:01] <Livingroom> Jordan_U: well, because i have an rsync script that relies on the mount point
[20:02] <Bray90820_> I am a slight grub noob so can someone help me setup grub with this
[20:02] <Bray90820_> https://github.com/burzumishi/linux-baytrail-flexx10/tree/master/grub
[20:02] <Bray90820_> There is also this
[20:02] <Bray90820_> http://pastebin.com/raw/CsNKn91f
[20:04] <avid_fan> Livingroom: How do you know it's only trying to mount the first drive? Can you pastebin or termbin your /etc/fstab for review?
[20:05] <Livingroom> avid_fan i know this, because if i change the order of entries it mounts without a problem
[20:05] <Livingroom> avid_fan: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23125385/
[20:06] <Guest40549> всем привет
[20:06] <avid_fan> Livingroom: So, whichever entry in fstab is listed first gets mounted, but not the second? Hmm.
[20:06] <Livingroom> avid_fan: that seems to be correct
[20:07] <Livingroom> avid_fan whichever is first for the mount point
[20:07] <Livingroom> should i perhaps change my mount command from mount /mountpoint to mount UUID?
[20:09] <Livingroom> avid_fan: it appears, that the best course of action is to use "mount -a" this seems to resolve the issue
[20:10] <Vad3r> posted on the forums, thank you.
[20:13] <avid_fan> Livingroom: Oh, I see what you're trying to do. I was assuming that because the device was connected via USB it wasn't being automatically mounted. But you're mounting manually.
[20:14] <avid_fan> Livingroom: I do believe you could mount using, as you suggested, the specific UUID as well.
[20:14] <avid_fan> Livingroom: At least accoring to mount's manpage.
[20:16] <Jordan_U> Livingroom: I would still recommend fixing your rsync script so that it can use one of two mountpoints, or find another way to mount these volumes than via /etc/fstab. Having two entries for the same mountpoint in fstab is odd.
[20:17] <Livingroom> jordan_u unfortunately, i'm not sure what else i could do. i'm trying to keep it as simple as possible; this seems to work.
[20:17] <Livingroom> ultimately it's a backup drive that is taken off site, so day 1 drive1 is inserted, day 2 drive2 is inserted, day 3 drive1 is inserted, etc.
[20:18] <Jordan_U> Livingroom: Why not have your rsync script check which mountpoint is actually mounted and set $backup_directory (or similar) based on that?
[20:19] <TheReaperKing> Hello, I was wondering, I know with Windows if you have a HD over 2TB that you can't put an OS on it and launch from it unless you have special support in the bios
[20:19] <TheReaperKing> Are you able to launch from the OS on Linux?
[20:19] <lifted> Yes
[20:20] <lifted> My server has a 3TB boot drive...
[20:20] <TheReaperKing> blanking on all the names but for Windows it is master boot record that can't handle over 2TB
[20:20] <lifted> You may need to partition it.
[20:20] <lifted> MBR != Windows
[20:20] <TheReaperKing> what is the one for over 2TB, GST or?
[20:20] <TheReaperKing> blanking
[20:20] <lifted> GFT ?
[20:20] <fishwithapipe> GPT i think
[20:20] <TheReaperKing> oh that'd make more sense
[20:21] <TheReaperKing> yes GPT
[20:21] <TheReaperKing> so to put nix on a 2TB drive and boot from it do you need GPT bios support?
[20:21] <fishwithapipe> alas i have no answers, just happened to look over :)
[20:22] <Livingroom> jordan_u that adds some complication, unfortunately, and it's already complicated enough. a windows-based backup solution first uses a .bat to tell the server to mount -a, then it tells xenserver to export-as-a-template each VM to /backup, then executes a script that rsync's the /backup and /backup-removable folders, and then the windows app executes a .bat that unmounts everything. so already complex, trying to remove complications when
[20:22] <Livingroom> possible
[20:22] <TheReaperKing> I'm going to search the forums too, thank you for the help with the acronym
[20:24] <fishwithapipe> a quick google says grub2 has gpt support, as to the bios i would expect that if the drive is recognised you should be fine, are you using old hardware?
[20:24] <TheReaperKing> oldish
[20:24] <Urdaneta> hi
[20:24] <TheReaperKing> quad core xeon
[20:24] <Urdaneta> Hola
[20:25] <fishwithapipe> does the bios recognise the drive, and can you bring yourself to give it a go and see if it works?
[20:25] <lifted> i dont think a setup with a 4 core xeon is going to have an issue with a 3tb drive....
[20:25] <TheReaperKing> I was mostly wondering because I wanted to buy a new one
[20:25] <TheReaperKing> I have a 4tb that I've used with windows, but as a secondary drive since I can't boot off it
[20:26] <TheReaperKing> basically I just want to migrate ALL my stuff to linux
[20:26] <TheReaperKing> so just trying to learn all the options
[20:27] <aguitel> anyway to install ubuntu in console mode (no Gui) , this is for chromebook
[20:27] <k1l_> TheReaperKing: the thing is: MBR (old partitioning table) cant handle partitions bigger than 2tb. but you can put several partitions on it. or use GPT partition table that can handle bigger one
[20:27] <OerHeks> aguitel, mini iso perhaps?
[20:28] <OerHeks> !mini
[20:28] <Grobi> Test
[20:28] <TheReaperKing> thanks k1l_!
[20:29] <Jordan_U> TheReaperKing: GNU/Linux doesn't have any problem booting from GPT drives on BIOS based sytems. Only Windows has that problem.
[20:29] <TheReaperKing> oh awesome, that is exactly the info I was looking for
[20:30] <TheReaperKing> Also if I put a windows drive on as a secondary drive that is ntfs and I'm copying to ext4, that should be fine I imagine.  I read some comments that people said there can be problems but I find it hard to believe
[20:31] <TheReaperKing> I'm pretty sure forever ago when linux was my main OS that I copied from NTFS to ext3 and had no problems
[20:31] <k1l_> TheReaperKing: windows doesnt handle ext4 partitions natively.
[20:31] <TheReaperKing> I meant that if windows on the secondary
[20:31] <TheReaperKing> I want to move my windows files to my Linux drive
[20:31] <k1l_> but ubuntu can work with ntfs as data partitions, yes
[20:31] <spacecub> hi all
[20:32] <Guest77561> hello I have problems getting my bluetooth headset working on lubuntu. I am able to connect it with pairing, but the device does not show up in pulseaudio for some reason. I found this http://askubuntu.com/questions/223136/pavucontrol-doesnt-show-bluetooth-headset and it says I have to add a line to /etc/pulse/default.pa ... but it doesn't say exactly where to put it. if I add it pulseaudio refuses to start.
[20:32] <Peppernrino> i'm going to try the 331.67 driver.
[20:32] <Peppernrino> it keeps popping up as a aconstant variable.
[20:32] <TheReaperKing> if I copy the files on ntfs to ext4 do I have anything to worry about?
[20:32] <Peppernrino> for cuda
[20:32] <k1l_> TheReaperKing: no
[20:32] <TheReaperKing> thanks so much for all your help
[20:32] <TheReaperKing> I'm so excited to migrate from windows
[20:33] <fishwithapipe> goodluck TheReaperKing
[20:33] <TheReaperKing> I'm actually migrating the computer lab at work from Windows to Linux too
[20:33] <silvian> Yay! welcome to the community TheReaperKing
[20:33] <TheReaperKing> for the kiddos
[20:33] <TheReaperKing> and thanks silvian!
[20:33] <jujubee> Is there a karaoke program I can run on my laptop with my music?
[20:33] <silvian> Hi spacecub
[20:34] <spacecub> can we talk about android here? :))
[20:34] <k1l_> spacecub: #android for android :)
[20:34] <fishwithapipe> who else used riscOS back when they were at school
[20:34] <spacecub> aye, you have to register..
[20:35] <OerHeks> fishwithapipe, nobody in this channel, ubuntu support only!
[20:35] <fishwithapipe> more experience with different OS's is probably one of the most useful experiences kids can have
[20:35] <k1l_> !register | spacecub
[20:35] <fishwithapipe> ubuntu didnt exist when i was at school!
[20:35] <k1l_> spacecub: this channel is for ubuntu only. so you will need to find another channel
[20:35] <Guest77561> can anybody help. I bought the headset just recently, and now it's laying around here like garbage because I am not able to use it
[20:35] <TheReaperKing> me either
[20:35] <OerHeks> fishwithapipe, whatever, take it to #linux of #ubuntu-offtopic, thanks
[20:35] <TheReaperKing> when I was in college Redhat and Mandrake were the Linux rage
[20:35] <spacecub> halfway through a large stiff whisky, cant be bothered with registration :)#
[20:37] <TheReaperKing> and they are loving linux
[20:37] <fishwithapipe> excellent
[20:37] <TheReaperKing> especially after having to deal with how slow Windows is
[20:37] <spacecub> bought a 1.8" ssd for me linux install today on ebay, canny wait for its arrival :)
[20:37] <TheReaperKing> I put linux on our slower laptops, dell 2120s, and they are preferring it over the bigger and more powerful lenovo 420es
[20:37] <fishwithapipe> cant say ive spread the word as far as id like, but those I have shown the way are happy with it
[20:37] <avid_fan> jujubee: https://code.google.com/archive/p/osd-lyrics/ or http://www.kibosh.org/pykaraoke/ came up using Google.
[20:37] <TheReaperKing> I'm currently using Lubuntu
[20:38] <TheReaperKing> I like Xubuntu more since Lubuntu is more of a pain but I'm also learning a lot more
[20:38] <Guest77561> I want to try adding load-module module-bluetooth-discover to /etc/pulse/default.pa, but where exacly. if i put it on the end of the file pulseaudio refuses to start
[20:38] <TheReaperKing> and definitely Lubuntu for those laptops, they need all the help they can get
[20:38] <spacecub> win10 is pushingppl onto linux, i own 3 win10 machines all running lubuntu and none of yer dual boot nonsense either..
[20:38] <fishwithapipe> im abit of a kde fan if im honest
[20:39] <TheReaperKing> yeah I'm not really a fan of dualbooting
[20:39] <Guest77561> Offtopic please
[20:39] <TheReaperKing> kde was my go to back in the day
[20:39] <spacecub> kde rox
[20:39] <fishwithapipe> id love to but it requires authentication :/
[20:39] <TheReaperKing> but now I light as light as possible
[20:39] <OerHeks> !ot | TheReaperKing, fishwithapipe spacecub
[20:39] <Guest77561> aaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[20:39] <jujubee> avid_fan: pykaraoke doesn't seem to play mp3 files
[20:42] <nopea> on 16.04 with mysql-server installed... where is the default location of my.cnf?
[20:43] <TheReaperKing> Thank you all for your help today
[20:43] <avid_fan> jujubee: Bummer.
[20:44] <k1l_> Guest77561: what is the error when you add those lines and restart pa?
[20:44] <Guest77561> I found the line is already added in default.pa but no bluetooth device pops up in pulseaudio :/
[20:44] <Guest77561> k1l_: I remoed those lines I would have to add them again
[20:44] <Guest77561> removed*
[20:45] <Guest77561> k1l_: do I have to add them on the end of the file?
[20:45] <k1l_> Guest77561: i would say it doesnt matter where.
[20:45] <OerHeks> nopea, /etc/mysql/my.cnf ?
[20:45] <spacecub> the only issue you have migrating from windows to linux is handling those multipart rar files, unless your handy with the shell, theres nothing that likes to handle them, does the vanilla ubuntu have anything that can handle?
[20:46] <spacecub> oh, and 32 bit quake wont run..
[20:46] <nopea> OerHeks: I found it.  It is broken up in 16.04,  /etc/mysql/mysql.conf.d/mysqld.cnf is where it hides now
[20:46] <spacecub> q3a..
[20:47] <OerHeks> nopea, ah, mysqld.cnf not my.cnf
[20:47] <spacecub> rar zombie runs in java, does that mean that its multi platform??
[20:47] <k1l_> spacecub: ubuntu can handle multi part rar files.
[20:48] <spacecub> kll: kewl, havent tried ubuntu, dont think i`m fast enough :)
[20:48] <avid_fan> The shell is one of the things I love about linux. Though I've not used powershell enough to make a informed opinion.
[20:49] <spacecub> last full ubuntu i tried was kubuntu, kept losing files after powercuts :)
[20:50] <Guest77561> k1l_: it says Connection to Pulseaudio failed. Automatic retry in 5s. In this Case this is likely because PULSE_SERVER in the Enviroment/X11 Root Windows properties or default-server in client.conf is misconfigured. This situation can also arrise when PulseAudio crashed and left stale details in the X11 Root Window. If this is the case, then Pulseaudio should autospawn again, or if this is not configured you should run start-pulseaudio-x11 manually
[20:50] <Guest77561> I actually typed this all now
[20:51] <Guest77561> if I remove the lines I get pulseaudio back btw. so those lines are causing it. I just want my headset to work
[20:52] <k1l_> so that seems to be not the right solution (from 2012).
[20:52] <Guest77561> I mean it connects fine it just doesn't pop up in pulseaudio
[20:52] <k1l_> anything in dmesg or syslog (in /var/log/) about that issue?
[20:52] <spacecub> k, you`ll all be happy to learn, my dog needs out, so, see y`all laterzz
[20:53] <Guest77561>  Bluetooth: RFCOMM TTY layer initialized
[20:54] <Guest77561> Bluetooth: RFCOMM socket layer initialized
[20:54] <Guest77561> idk what you need though. I can paste the file in pastebin if you want
[20:55] <k1l_> i dont know too. i am not a pa or sound guy
[20:56] <Guest77561> can I post dmesg or is there like important stuff nobody is supposed to see in it?
[20:56] <k1l_> no. its fine
[20:56] <WildSoft> The NAND part on a SSHD is only used as a cache, right? The computer detects the drive as a normal HDD?
[20:56] <Guest77561> k1l_: then http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/23125554/
[20:57] <k1l_> WildSoft: yes
[20:57] <avid_fan> Guest77561: Have you tried this: https://askubuntu.com/questions/689281/pulseaudio-can-not-load-bluetooth-module-15-10-16-04
[20:57] <WildSoft> So a store bought computer with Windows 10 shouldn't have any issues if I want to install Ubuntu as dual boot?
[20:58] <laszlowaty> re :)
[20:59] <genbu> hello. i've upgraded my nvidia driver by a ppa. Now boootscreen resolution is low. I try every guide i found on google, but i can't solve
[20:59] <netvixtra> still hungry, laszlowaty ?
[20:59] <laszlowaty> not really, but my dinner made me sick a little bit :(
[21:00] <Guest77561> avid_fan: No I havent I found the line in default pa. I try removing the # in this line
[21:00] <k1l_> Guest77561: if there is a # in front its making the line not working.
[21:01] <Jordan_U> WildSoft: You shouldn't have a problem with the hybrid SSD/HDD if it has one, but we can't tell you that there will be no other problems.
[21:01] <Peppernrino> genbu: i'm having trouble with nvidia drviers as well...
[21:02] <Livingroom> wildsoft: i think it is likely you may have to disable Secure Boot in BIOS first, but i dont think you'd have a problem
[21:02] <Peppernrino> "get amd cards" isn't an option...
[21:02] <genbu> my only problem is bootscreen resolution. apart from that all is ok
[21:02] <Jordan_U> Livingroom: WildSoft: It is not at all likely that you will need to disable Secure Boot. Ubuntu works fine with secure boot.
[21:02] <eodnhoj> exit
[21:03] <Guest77561> k1l_: I know that much ;) avid_fan: No I haven't i can try
[21:04] <avid_fan> Guest77561: Wish I could give you more assistance, but I don't even have bluetooth, much less a headset.
[21:05] <WildSoft> Jordan_U Livingroom thanks, my worries are more related to the SSHD since I have 0 experience with that. Not going to be my computer either, so I don't want it to fail. I'm just unsure how the SSHD operates and how the UEFI detects it. If it gets detected as a normal HDD and the drive operates the cash on its own or not
[21:06] <WildSoft> This made me unsure https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hybrid_drive#SSHD_products_operate_in_two_primary_modes
[21:06] <Livingroom> wildsoft: SSHD should be fine, it is always seen as a single device
[21:06] <k1l_> WildSoft: the hdd firmware makes the hdd look like its only a hdd. the OS doenst care about the ssd cache
[21:06] <fernando_> hola
[21:07] <WildSoft> k1l_: Normally so, but the "Host-optimized mode (or host-hinted mode)" Wikipedia shows made me extra unsure
[21:07] <k1l_> WildSoft: i would not panic too much
[21:08] <avid_fan> WildSoft: I've used a few SSDs from different manufacturers and I've never had a problem. They all showed up as a single device.
[21:08] <WildSoft> avid_fan: Not talking about SSDs, SSHD
[21:08] <WildSoft> the hybrid drives
[21:09] <avid_fan> Sorry, my bad
[21:09] <k1l_> WildSoft: its like reading on wikipedia what diseases there are. after that you think you will die asap :X
[21:09] <avid_fan> Pay no attention to my doumb-a$$
[21:09] <madwin> I'm wondering if there is a way to monitor user logins and as soon an any user logs in, get the username and pass it to a certain script.  I'm thinking this can be done in systemd but not sure.
[21:09] <WildSoft> k1l_: true that =P
[21:09] <Guest77561> avid_fan: No now it won't eve pair anymore. it seems that the bluetooth manager froze
[21:10] <Guest77561> damn pulseaudio is really annoying
[21:11] <Guest77561> oh man. so funny
[21:12] <WildSoft> Any tech savvy fellas online willing to help me pick one of 3 computers for a friends parents? They are so technically impaired they can barley operate a TV-remote
[21:12] <Guest77561> now i see the bluetooth headset in pulseaudio but my bluetooth manager doesn't seem to be working anymore ?
[21:14] <Guest77561> avid_fan: well it did something. i think i add the lines and log out maybe it does "hopefully" something
[21:14] <WildSoft> (Have a link to the three computers, but don't want to spam this channel with it)
[21:14] <CodeMouse92> There is typically a way to pipe raw audio directly to the sound card (one of the /dev/ devices), but I can't find which one on 16.04.
[21:14] <CodeMouse92> Anyone know how to do this?
[21:15] <Egyptian[Web]> hi - how do i tell this to use my current /etc config? sudo apt-get install --only-upgrade docker-engine
[21:16] <Fione> Hello
[21:17] <Guest77561> k i just restart. maybe this is just a random freeze or something
[21:17] <Fione> I have an urgent request. I've cracked my laptop screen tonight, and wondering if it is possible to access the OS?
[21:18] <faekjarz> hi, maybe i'm doing something wrong in looking in vain for <pkgname>-devel to find the sources via apt[-cache] search: how to obtain the sources for virt-manager?
[21:18] <MonkeyDust> Fione  sure, with an external monitor
[21:19] <Fione> Putting the display somewhere else? Right now I only have another spare laptop, and android tablet at my disposal.
[21:19] <yang> Fione: another way than external monitor is also serial console (that is more advanced to set up, you will need ssh access to your machine)
[21:19] <Seburo> Hi.  Has anyone else noticed that the standard Libreoffice spellcheck with Ubuntu for UK is not great?  Anyone have any ideas on how to fix?
[21:20] <yang> Fione: do you have ssh access to this computer over network ?
[21:20] <yang> Fione: if so, then various methods can be applied
[21:20] <Fione> No. I don't.
[21:21] <Fione> Another way yang?
[21:21] <yang> Fione: well the system will boot up on external monitor, try to get that somewhere (buy?)
[21:22] <yang> once you have that
[21:22] <yang> you can setup ssh and the rest
[21:22] <avid_fan> Fione: Swap HDDs between broken screen and good screen laptop?
[21:22] <Fione> viable. I never messed with the hardware though.
[21:22] <avid_fan> Fione: I know for some laptops it's easier than others.
[21:23] <avid_fan> Mosst of the Dells I've used it's only a couple of screws and out the HDD slides. Others can be much more involved.
[21:23] <faekjarz> (i want to recompile and install it "--with-bhyve")
[21:23] <Fione> I have acer and lenovo.
[21:24] <Fione> How do you know if the screen of the two laptop is the same or not?
[21:25] <Fione> Both are 14".
[21:25] <CodeMouse92> Answered my own question: therawaudiostream | aplay -t raw
[21:25] <yang> Fione: screen is rarely the same
[21:25] <yang> Fione: even getting a screen from the same model, might not work
[21:25] <yang> sometimes screens in models differ
[21:25] <Jordan_U> faekjarz: bhyve is a FreeBSD hypervisor. Why do you want to use it with Ubuntu?
[21:25] <maombi> ok the guy with the bluetooth headset again... changed nick. I added those lines in /usr/bin/start-pulseaudio-x11 but still the same result after a restart. headset connects but doesn't show up in pulseaudio
[21:26] <maombi> from here https://askubuntu.com/questions/689281/pulseaudio-can-not-load-bluetooth-module-15-10-16-04
[21:26] <Jordan_U> maombi: Try asking in #pulseaudio.
[21:26] <yang> Fione: what about taking the laptop to a replacement service, if you cant do it by yourself ? I mean you could run it with a broken screen, by using external monitor or just using the laptop via ssh
[21:26] <Egyptian[Web]> sudo apt-get -o Dpkg::Options::="--force-confdef" -o Dpkg::Options::="--force-confold" install docker-engine
[21:26] <Fione> There's no way to make my second laptop a monitor of the first without that ssh stuff?
[21:26] <maombi> they have a channel. ok i'll try over there then
[21:26] <yang> Fione: nope
[21:27] <faekjarz> Jordan_U: i do not want to use bhyve with (on) Ubuntu. i want the virt-manager on Ubuntu to manage bhyve-VMs on a remote FreeBSD box. Phoronix says it's supportet, but not active.
[21:27] <yang> Fione: its possible to do a shared screen, with programs on second computer, but you need ssh access on the first computer for that to set up
[21:28] <yang> Fione: basically running "ssh -X" will share all existing apps from the first computer to the second computer
[21:29] <MonkeyDust> Fione  ssh is the easiest way
[21:31] <Silvyio> join #analsex
[21:31] <kas> im having trouble with intial boot
[21:32] <kas> The error message I am recieving is Unable to find a medium containg a live file system
[21:32] <k1l_> kas: how and what did you install?
[21:33] <kas> k1l_: I installed ubuntu 14.04 onto a flash drived and used rufus to write the iso file
[21:34] <k1l_> kas: what OS do you use now?
[21:36] <Peppernrino> is you motherboard uefi? did you install as gpt on rufus?
[21:36] <kas> windows 10 i was trying to dual boot
[21:36] <k1l_> are you sure the md5sum of the .iso file is correct? usually rufus should work
[21:36] <Jordan_U> kas: Have you removed the USB drive that has the installer on it?
[21:36] <jophish_> Hi all!
[21:37] <kas> no i have not its still plugged in maybe i should run a fresh restall
[21:37] <_unreal> hello, I installed ubuntu mate, on this laptop the other day and once ever minute or so there is a mild pop or click sound from the speakers. its driving me crazy any idea's
[21:38] <kas> k1l_: i think so
[21:38] <jophish_> I'm trying to get ubuntu dual booting with windows on a uefi system. I've got a partition /dev/nvme0n1p3 with Windows 10 and /boot/efi/Microsoft/Boot exists, however update grub doesn't pick up on Windows existing
[21:38] <jophish_> Is anyone able to help me, this is a real puzzler
[21:40] <_unreal> any one have any idea's or know an other channel that may be able to help?
[21:40] <maombi> Ok it works now. I turned my bluetooth headset off and back on and it showed up in pulseaudio yay... I just tried all things out..something fixed it. yaayyy thanks for the help guys appreciate it !
[21:42] <jophish_> This is the output of boot-repair https://gist.github.com/expipiplus1/1a6528da2f580a860bfd9190fad8e5fd
[21:43] <jophish_> BRB
[21:46] <helpwkubuntu> Hey, does anyone know how to solve the issue where, even though I have almost 400gb of free space on my disk, kubuntu isn't giving me the option to install along side windows 10?
[21:48] <k1l_> helpwkubuntu: i guess your windows setup already uses 4 primary partitions
[21:48] <k1l_> (which is the maximum)
[21:49] <helpwkubuntu> how do I tell if a partition on my disk is primary or not?
[21:49] <MrMonkey31> helpwkubuntu, do you have a ext3/ext4 partition already and everything?
[21:49] <k1l_> open a terminal. run "sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999" and show the url here
[21:50] <Mishari> Hello guys
[21:50] <Fione> Say... is there really no way to set up ssh server without the usage of monitor?
[21:50] <Mishari> Fionettta
[21:50] <Mishari> ciao bella.
[21:50] <Mishari> lol.
[21:51] <Mishari> opsss, sorry.
[21:51] <MrMonkey31> since when does kubuntu care if its partition is primary or extended?
[21:51] <k1l_> Fione: make a persitent ubuntu usb and install ssh there.
[21:52] <helpwkubuntu> http://termbin.com/f4dz
[21:52] <MrMonkey31> it's just a matter of having space for SOME kind of partition
[21:52] <k1l_> MrMonkey31: its not about ubuntu. its about what is already on that disk. if the disk used all of 4 primaries already, then the installer cant  do anything.
[21:53] <MrMonkey31> I forgot about that
[21:53] <k1l_> helpwkubuntu: hmm. its a gpt disk. that is not a maximum primary partition issue then
[21:54] <Odd> Hey! Currently trying to get Steam working on my Ubuntu 14.04 Trusty Tahr dedicated machine, and noticed I needed "Wine". Came over this site; https://www.linux.com/blog/wine-1735-released-how-install-ubuntudebianlinux-mint but I haven't a clue what it means by "Add the ppa and update the local repository", anyone who mind telling?
[21:55] <MrMonkey31> I've had the parted's refuse to resize a windows partition no matter what, so that I couldn't do anything short of wiping the disk and starting fresh
[21:56] <helpwkubuntu> here's a screenshot of the installer: https://i.sli.mg/lJFGug.png
[21:56] <Fione> k1l_: does it matter if the distro differs by 2 years? I had ubuntu 14.04 iso on my spare and 16.04 for my main PC
[21:56] <k1l_> Fione: no
[21:58] <k1l_> helpwkubuntu: i dont know why its not offering to install. maybe because the free space is inbetween sda3 and sda4. maybe you can just use manual partitioning
[21:59] <helpwkubuntu> How do I do it manually?
[21:59] <k1l_> choose manual, and then create the partitions you need/would like
[22:01] <helpwkubuntu> If I back up windows, would I be able to install it back onto a purely linux machine?
[22:02] <lordcirth> helpwkubuntu, if you back it up with clonezilla, yes, but you'd have to be careful to preserve the Linux partition and fix the bootloader back to grub.
[22:04] <Peppernrino> Odd: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:********/*****
[22:05] <Peppernrino> then navigate to that directory, and install the .deb file or whatever. :)
[22:05] <Odd> I ended up just following what the guide said, command by command. When doing the last "install" one, I got this; http://paste.md-5.net/notasecudu.coffee
[22:06] <Odd> Never really touched Ubuntu, every time I do I sit there with a mess and a headache.
[22:06] <Peppernrino> :(
[22:07] <Odd> You captured my feelings rather well tehre, Peppernrino
[22:08] <lordcirth> Odd, is the rest of your system up to date?
[22:09] <k1l_> its wine. it needs a crapload of 32bit stuff
[22:09] <Odd> I don't know, I want to say yes, but the machine has been maintained by a friend of a friend of mine, who hasn't been around for a couple months...
[22:09] <Fione> K1l_: so I've checked my USB toolbox, I've already installed gparted and ubuntu 16.04. Now, what I should do is create a ext4 partition on that USB?
[22:09] <lordcirth> k1l_, yeah, but there's a conflict
[22:10] <lordcirth> Odd, well, it's usually good to update before adding ppa packages
[22:10] <Bashing-om> !info wine | odd
[22:10] <Odd> I randomly just decided today to jump into it using the "x2goClient" because some people on a server I run thought it'd be a cool idea to goof around on an Unturned-server.
[22:11] <k1l_> Fione: no, you need to make it "persistent" when creating the usb. then changes like installing the ssh server are kept
[22:11] <Odd> Understood little to nothing from that, ubottu
[22:11] <jmw> Anyone have a recommendation for a good VNC server?
[22:11] <k1l_> Odd: what do you need wine for?
[22:13] <lordcirth> Odd, ubottu is the channel bot.
[22:14] <Odd> I need wine to run "wine steamcmd.exe", k1l_
[22:14] <lordcirth> Odd, why do you need to do that?  What game do you want to run in Steam?
[22:15] <Odd> As I said earlier; "some people on a server I run thought it'd be a cool idea to goof around on an Unturned-server." - k1l_ | lordcirth
[22:16] <k1l_> did you do "sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386"?
[22:16] <Odd> Didn't know I had to, k1l_ :(
[22:17] <lordcirth> Odd, but the wiki says there's a Linux version now? http://unturned.wikia.com/wiki/Hosting_a_Dedicated_Server
[22:17] <Odd> That still notes "install Unturned", lordcirth
[22:18] <Odd> So unless I'm more of an idiot than I feel, I have to go through this process.
[22:18] <Fione> k1l_. it is enough to follow one of the guide at wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent ?
[22:19] <lordcirth> Odd, the Steam page for Unturned has a Linux version listed.
[22:20] <lordcirth> I do remember seeing people going through this process before, but I don't think it's needed anymore.  Though there is a note about patch 2.2.2 breaking Linux dedicated servers.
[22:20] <k1l_> Fione: that should work
[22:21] <Odd> Oh, so if I'm running a server after version 2.2.2 it will not work, lordcirth ?
[22:22] <lordcirth> Odd, 2.2.2 won't work.  Hopefully after has been patched. But I don't play, so I don't know.
[22:22] <Odd> You know if I just have to run; "./Unturned.XX -nographics -pei -normal -nosync -pve -players:16 -sv" lordcirth ? Or should I be looking elsewhere?
[22:23] <lordcirth> Odd, that's what the guide says?
[22:24] <Odd> After noting that I must install Unturned, yes, lordcirth
[22:25] <ilhami> hey
[22:25] <ilhami> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23125916/ what the heck is this?
[22:25] <Odd> These are commands I used, and end-result; http://paste.md-5.net/himeviqoyu.coffee
[22:26] <lordcirth> Odd, I thought we just established you don't need to install Steam in wine?
[22:27] <lordcirth> ilhami, it helps to provide context to one's pastes
[22:27] <ilhami> I was using PHP's composer and then I got all those "errors"
[22:28] <lordcirth> ilhami, you should probably find a PHP or LAMP support channel.
[22:29] <ilhami> ya. will dol
[22:29] <ilhami> do*
[22:29] <Odd> Uhm, then I might be looking in the wrong place. Do you have a link to a guide/similar that shows me how I can install Unturned without Steam?
[22:30] <fishwithapipe> https://devdox.net/how-to-setup-unturned-server-on-linux/ <-- untested
[22:30] <pwca> hello, my sound keeps stopping/starting.
[22:30] <pwca> using Ubuntu 15.10.
[22:31] <lordcirth> Odd, You need to install Steam, you just don't need Wine.  Steam's Linux version will do fine.
[22:32] <Odd> Oh. Didn't know Steam had a Linux version! Never heard anything about that before...
[22:32] <ilhami> lol you are really behind :P
[22:32] <lordcirth> Yeah it's been a few years now lol
[22:33] <Odd> Dang...
[22:33] <Odd> Know of any commands I could run to undo what I've already done?
[22:33] <ilhami> what have you done?
[22:33] <Odd> http://paste.md-5.net/himeviqoyu.coffee
[22:33] <lecia> I havd ubuntu 14.04-5 fully updated with xubuntu-desktop installed.  When I boot into xfce4, I can not use the GUI logout option.  It says, "Are you sure you want to close all programs and log out?"  "Some software updates won't be appplied until the computer restarts."  See image:  https://imagebin.ca/v/2tje6LHb35ya
[22:33] <Odd> Those commands, and those commands only.
[22:33] <Fione> So, k1l_ before I go, what step do I need to do after installing ubuntu persistent liveUSB?
[22:34] <Odd> Plus "!info wine"
[22:34] <lecia> Is this a known bug?
[22:34] <lordcirth> Odd, all that actually happened is you downloading the zip, according to the paste.
[22:34] <Bashing-om> !15.10 | pwca
[22:35] <lordcirth> The rest just failed to do anything
[22:35] <Odd> So the add-apt-repository did nada?
[22:35] <fishwithapipe> and updating to a newer wine version, which you wont be using
[22:35] <pwca> Bashing-om: and?
[22:35] <lordcirth> Odd, oh oops.  yeah edit /etc/apt/sources.list and remove it
[22:35] <lecia> I know that I can use  xfce4-session-logout but would like to fix the problem if at all possible.
[22:35] <baash05> Hey guys.. I'm wondering if there's a way to test the IO board.
[22:35] <Bashing-om> pwca: As the repo no longer exists, not much you can do / you do need to upgrade to current .
[22:36] <pwca> Bashing-om: that's bullshit.
[22:36] <Odd> lordcirth, uuuh...? "edit /etc/apt/sources.list", find that (what is that, even?) and remove it?
[22:36] <pwca> anyway, I fixed it.
[22:36] <pwca> seemingly.
[22:36] <Odd> Sadly, I was not kidding when I said I knew very little about this.
[22:37] <lordcirth> Odd, repositories are listed in that file.  'sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list' and remove the 'ubuntu-wine' one.  Probably the last one.
[22:37] <Odd> Ah, okay!
[22:37] <Bashing-om> lecia: As a matter of course, what results ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade ' ?
[22:38] <lordcirth> unfortunately there is no delete-apt-repository command :P
[22:38] <lordcirth> Not that we really need one
[22:38] <_unreal> hello, I installed ubuntu mate, on this laptop the other day and once ever minute or so there is a mild pop or click sound from the speakers. its driving me crazy any idea's
[22:39] <_unreal> also this is interesting, looks like I can upgrade my cpu, but because the GPU is built into the CPU, I can go from an pentium p6100 to an i5 480 but the i5 has a downgrade for a GPU lol
[22:39] <lordcirth> _unreal, do you know for sure this didn't happen on the previous OS?
[22:39] <_unreal> lordcirth, good question
[22:39] <Jordan_U> lordcirth: ppa-purge
[22:39] <lecia> Bashing-om: It's working... will let you know in a minute ot two
[22:40] <_unreal> and to tell the truth, this is the first time I've ever been able to use the laptop. my borther gave  it to me and I just finally solved the last problem that was keeping is from running
[22:40] <lordcirth> Jordan_U, interesting!  never used it. Not installed by default, though.
[22:40] <_unreal> had a very clogged heat sink, and both memory banks where bad AND one of the memory pins in each memory bank was slightly bent
[22:40] <_unreal> had the thing for about a year and only just solved the last issue that has been keeping it from even running
[22:40] <lecia> Bashing-om: Ok.  It completed as expected, "0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded."
[22:41] <_unreal> like 4 days ago
[22:41] <lecia> Bashing-om: (This system is fully updated.)
[22:41] <stallix> Any lxle user here maybe?
[22:41] <Bashing-om> lecia: And still with the logout anomoly ?
[22:41] <Odd> Can't find anything pertaining to "Ubuntu-wine", lordcirth, might it be that it simply isn't there?
[22:41] <lecia> Bashing-om: Yes.
[22:42] <_unreal> lordcirth, I dont know if its just an audio file that is playing? or if its something thats doing the click, the wierd thing is that the click only happens now and then when it does happen
[22:42] <stallix> I can't beleive that distro is in the top20 and around 5 nicks in the channel
[22:42] <lecia> I might also add that it is
[22:42] <lordcirth> stallix, top 20 on Distrowatch?  That only means people are searching for it, not using it.
[22:42] <lordcirth> Odd, are there files in /etc/apt/sources.list.d?
[22:43] <stallix> lordcirth Basically yes, but there seems to be a correlation too: more searches, more users
[22:43] <elisa87> netvixtra: please have a look http://stackoverflow.com/questions/39301547/http-status-404-xnat-apache-tomcat-8-0-26-ubuntu
[22:44] <Bashing-om> lecia: Sorry, no ideas left :(
[22:44] <Odd> No, lordcirth, that file is completely empty. But ""/etc/apt/sources.list.d" is a directory".
[22:44] <lordcirth> Odd, that's why I asked if there were files in it.
[22:44] <lordcirth> repositories can also be listed in individual files in that directory.
[22:45] <lecia> It is a dual core  AMD E-300 APU with Radeon(tm) HD Graphics with 64bit kernel.  Just a stock install of Ubuntu with restricted-extras and xubuntu-desktop installed.
[22:45] <Odd> Oh, yes, there IS an "ubuntu-wine-ppa-trust.list" in it, lordcirth!
[22:45] <lordcirth> Odd, right, so rm that.
[22:45] <lecia> Bashing-om: I'm about to see if I can duplicate this on another machine.  Just need to reboot and see....
[22:45] <lecia> Bashing-om: I'm pretty sure it's a bug.
[22:46] <_unreal_> I'll be back in a bit got to go shower
[22:46] <Odd> Uh, "rm /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ubuntu-wine-ppa-trust.list", lordcirth?
[22:46] <Bashing-om> lecia: Possible that it is a bug . yours is the 1st I have ever encountered with this condition .
[22:46] <lordcirth> Odd, yes.  with sudo, of course
[22:47] <Odd> Thanks!
[22:48] <Odd> Now to find the Steam package for Linux. :)
[22:48] <lordcirth> !info steam
[22:50] <fishwithapipe> someone prod valve and get them to build an x64 version
[22:50] <Mathisen> sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386 && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install ia32-libs
[22:50] <Mathisen> then install steam
[22:50] <OerHeks> no ia32 libs, that is the old way!
[22:50] <Mathisen> oh my bad then
[22:50] <OerHeks> install wine:i3386
[22:51] <OerHeks> c/wine:i386
[22:51] <Odd> Wine is what I just attempted to avoid.
[22:51] <OerHeks> Odd, then you don't want steam too, i guess.
[22:51] <lordcirth> OerHeks, ???
[22:52] <lordcirth> Steam's had a Linux version for a while
[22:52] <lordcirth> As we've just been talking about
[22:52] <elisa87> can anyone help me with this please ? http://stackoverflow.com/questions/39301547/http-status-404-xnat-apache-tomcat-8-0-26-ubuntu
[22:53] <Odd> They might be, but not for 64x; http://paste.md-5.net/cabineteso.vhdl
[22:54] <lordcirth> Odd, ok, some of your packages are broken.  This is not steam-specific
[22:54] <Odd> ...Damnit.
[22:55] <lordcirth> Odd, try to install the dependency, (in this case libgl1-mesa-glx:i386 ) until you find what the actual conflict is.
[22:55] <lordcirth> I'm not sure if there's a more direct way
[22:55] <lordcirth> Odd, Actually, did you do updates first like I said?
[22:56] <Odd> You mean "sudo apt-get update"?
[22:57] <lordcirth> Odd, and then dist-upgrade
[22:57] <Odd> Because, even if I want to say yes, the answer is no... Completely forgot doing that.
[22:57] <lordcirth> 'update' just checks for updates
[22:57] <Odd> And I didn't know about "dist-upgrade".
[22:57] <lecia> Bashing-om: It's a bug.  Just duplicated it on another machine, also a dual core with Ubuntu 64bit 14.04.5
[22:58] <lordcirth> Odd, 'apt-get upgrade' holds back big changes like kernel updates.  dist-upgrade does all.
[23:00] <Odd> Okay, so the cause of act here now is that Steam has not gotten anywhere. And as such, I must do "sudo apt-get update", followed by "sudo dist-upgrade"?
[23:00] <Odd> Then pester on to "sudo apt-get install steam", no?
[23:01] <Bashing-om> lecia: Good job ! Glad to know .
[23:01] <lordcirth> Odd, yes.  Hopefully simply updating will fix the broken packages.  If not, we'll work on that.
[23:02] <genbu> i've upgraded my nvidia driver by a ppa. Now boootscreen resolution is low. I try every guide i found on google, but i can't solve
[23:02] <Odd> lordcirth http://paste.md-5.net/copuxayite.sm I'm guessing wrong command?
[23:03] <lordcirth> Odd, 'apt update' and 'apt dist-upgrade'
[23:03] <lecia> Bashing-om: Bug #1366846: system does not shut down when shutdown is selected
[23:04] <Odd> 23.6kB more space now used. Accepted change.
[23:04] <Odd> And now it wants me to "(q to quit)".
[23:04] <lecia> Reading (trying to make sense of): https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xubuntu-meta/+question/254085
[23:05] <lordcirth> Odd, quit what?
[23:05] <Odd> lordcirth, Just some info it pulled up. I did it and then it went on to prepare, unpack, "whoopsie" and setting up.
[23:06] <lordcirth> Odd, oh.  A few packages have an interactive bit when installing.
[23:07] <Odd> Well, I certainly hope I'm done with that!
[23:07] <lecia> Not sure it is exactly the same... but looks like no solution.  I am beginning to realize that installing xubuntu-desktop is a bad idea. The system seems to be a bit unstable after installing xfce.  I hope that uninstalling xubuntu-desktop will work as expected.
[23:08] <Odd> Either way, both "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt dist-upgrade" has been done! Should I now move on to use the same "sudo apt-get install steam", lordcirth?
[23:08] <lordcirth> Odd, yes
[23:09] <Odd> http://paste.md-5.net/qehobemoji.vhdl I do not joke. :(
[23:09] <lordcirth> Ok
[23:10] <maombi> ok my headset just works sometimes after a manual work in the terminal. I think I am affected by this bug. thats why my bluetooth headset won't show up in pulseaudio without a lot of hassle. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bluez/+bug/1283003
[23:11] <maombi> sadly nobody is assigned to fix this bug
[23:12] <lordcirth> Odd, try "sudo apt-get -f install steam" to attempt to fix
[23:13] <lecia> Ok, I just found out that if I click the Applications Menu and then select the logout button at the lower right corner of that window, it works as expected.  It is just the logout icon near the right side of the top bar that does not work.  Maybe I'll just remove it.
[23:14] <lecia> It's called "Indicator Plugin"?
[23:14] <Odd> lordcirth, http://paste.md-5.net/cujecisubi.vhdl
[23:14] <Odd> I believe my machine is 64x, which isn't supported by Steam yet, though.
[23:14] <lordcirth> Odd, 32bit things run on 64bit computers just fine.
[23:15] <lordcirth> You just need to install the 32bit versions of everything they dependon
[23:15] <Odd> Oh, okay then.
[23:15] <lordcirth> Hardly anyone is still running steam on 32bit.
[23:15] <lecia> Well, I think I'll just not use it any more...
[23:16] <WhiteWhale_> is there even any point in running Kali anymore?  You can use all the same tools in ubuntu.
[23:16] <lordcirth> Odd, ok, well, my usual process at this point is to try to install the Depends: it requests, until it tells you what the conflict it.  I suspect there's a better way but I don't know it
[23:17] <lecia> It probably is a bug, different from the one I found, but not real sure how to properly describe and/or search for it.  I suppose I will just ignore it for now.  (I've already wasted quite a bit of time, already.)
[23:18] <Odd> lordcirth, is it listing any dependencies it needs, though?
[23:18] <lecia> I do, however, need to re-learn how to dissable mousepad while typing....
[23:18] <lecia> Anyone?
[23:18] <lordcirth> Odd, read line 12 of the paste
[23:18] <lordcirth> lecia, should be in mouse settings, I think
[23:19] <Odd> "sudo apt-get install libgl1-mesa-glx:i386", lordcirth?
[23:20] <lordcirth> Odd, yup
[23:20] <Odd> Now that pissed me off a bit...
[23:21] <Odd> This be why: http://paste.md-5.net/wilosaloco.vhdl
[23:21] <lecia> Ok
[23:22] <lordcirth> Odd, good, now we are closer to the answer
[23:23] <lordcirth> Odd, try installing libudev1:i386 to see why it can't be installed
[23:23] <Bashing-om> !info libudev1:i386
[23:23] <lordcirth> !info libudev1
[23:24] <lecia> Thanks all.  TTYL
[23:25] <Odd> Uhm, lordcirth, I'm a bit uncertain now... http://paste.md-5.net/xosayiwumi.vhdl
[23:26] <Odd> I checked why it didn't, then tried to install what that was complaining about.
[23:26] <Odd> And I got that long list.
[23:26] <Odd> And I do believe I need the XFCE and some else...
[23:26] <lordcirth> Odd, well, don't hit yes! :P
[23:26] <lordcirth> Yeah it wants to remove half the systyem
[23:26] <Odd> Aborted.
[23:27] <lordcirth> Odd, I forgot to ask earlier, what Ubuntu version are you running?
[23:27] <Odd> Should be 14.04 Trusty Tahr.
[23:27] <Odd> From setup mail: "Your server is an Xubuntu 14.04 Desktop (Trusty Tahr) based on a 64-bit system."
[23:28] <Odd> So unless my friends friend have changed that, it should be the same.
[23:28] <lordcirth> Odd, 'cat /etc/lsb-release' to be sure
[23:30] <Odd> http://paste.md-5.net/jugoretico.sm
[23:32] <lordcirth> Odd, this is a virtual machine server?
[23:33] <lordcirth> Odd, try running 'sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386' and try to install steam again
[23:33] <Odd> It's a KS-A4 from Kimsufi: https://www.kimsufi.com/us/en/servers.xml
[23:35] <lordcirth> Odd, ah so it is physical, apparently.  Nice.
[23:35] <Odd> lordcirth, I did "sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386", but nothing happened.
[23:36] <lordcirth> Odd, and you tried to install steam again?
[23:37] <Odd> lordcirth; http://paste.md-5.net/mameturoji.hs
[23:37] <lordcirth> People suggested this earlier, I think
[23:38] <lordcirth> Odd, do a 'sudo apt update' to make sure it refreshed the changes, then try installing
[23:39] <Odd> You want me to do "sudo dpkg..." again, then update, and THEN steam, or just update, then Steam?
[23:40] <lordcirth> Odd, just update and then try installing
[23:40] <Odd> (I'm really bad at this whole name-pinging thing, and for that I apologise)
[23:41] <lordcirth> Odd, no problem
[23:42] <Odd> lordcirth, http://paste.md-5.net/kidiwajiru.vhdl
[23:42] <lordcirth> Odd, this is getting strange
[23:43] <Odd> lordcirth, This is how it usually goes whenever I do anything with Ubuntu, really.
[23:44] <lordcirth> Odd, well, in this case, somebody broke something on this system, I suspect.
[23:44] <Odd> If you're scratching your head, then do not worry, you're far from the first.
[23:44] <lordcirth> This doesn't happen normally
[23:44] <Odd> Any way to determine what is broken?
[23:45] <lordcirth> Odd, if I were in front of the computer, I probably could have already.  However this is more difficult over IRC.
[23:47] <Odd> Is there a major difference between the two, other than one being a tad slower?
[23:47] <lordcirth> Odd, many times slower.
[23:48] <lordcirth> Still better than over the phone, though :p
[23:48] <Odd> =/
[23:49] <lordcirth> Odd, what does this say? " sudo apt-get install libcgmanager0:i386 libgl1-mesa-glx-lts-trusty:i386 libudev1:i386 libc6:i386 libgl1-mesa-dri-lts-trusty:i386 libglapi-mesa-lts-trusty:i386 "
[23:54] <bob_> I have a question about themes in Ubuntu Mate, Mate DE 1.12.1. Not a system issue, but I'd like to correct this. The window title font does not change when a different font/size/thickness regardless what I choose.
[23:54] <Odd> Here you go, lordcirth: http://paste.md-5.net/caqexuhote.sm
[23:55] <bob_> Was wondering what file holds these setting. I want to rename it and see if this settles the issue.
[23:55] <Odd> Takes quite a bit when I write a typo, which can be seen in the top, and then my mouse keeps goofing...
[23:55] <lordcirth> Odd, are you retyping all of this?  Not copying and pasting?
[23:56] <Odd> Had to retype, yeah.
[23:56] <lordcirth> Oh dear
[23:56] <lordcirth> Why is that?
[23:56] <Odd> I tried copying and pasting, but it didn't want to paste INTO the program. Let's me copy everything in there and paste OUT though.
[23:56] <lordcirth> What program?
[23:56] <Odd> "x2goclient"
[23:57] <lordcirth> Odd, try Ctrl-Shift-V to paste into terminal
[23:59] <lordcirth> Odd, you know what, try this guide: https://devdox.net/how-to-setup-unturned-server-on-linux/
[23:59] <Odd> You want me to copy what you said and paste it, again? Because I've already written it and shown you the log? http://paste.md-5.net/caqexuhote.sm
[23:59] <lordcirth> Odd, I meant in general