[00:17] <colourspace> hello, can anyone help me figure out why my notifications look like this: http://i.imgur.com/x4DztdJ.png
[01:04] <chandu20> how i can auto hide globel menu bar?
[01:59] <siva_machina> the thing on the top left?
[01:59] <siva_machina> chalcedny, ?
[02:01] <siva_machina> chalcedny,  right click an empty spot on desktop --> desktop settings --> tweaks --> show the desktop toolbox
[02:01] <siva_machina> if that is the case
[05:44] <afrohealer> i am attempting to go from ubuntu to kubuntu. i used ap-get to install kubuntu-desktop. andnow its asking me to select a desktop manager.. Do urecomend lightdm or sddm?
[05:44] <afrohealer> and do i need to install anything else to get plasma?
 sddm is the default choice for kubuntu, but either *should* work. the kubuntu-desktop meta-package should pull in everything needed for a plasma session you can select in sddm/lightdm
[07:20] <afrohealer> i ran apt-get installkubuntu-desktop  . and it stopped withthefollowing error" Errors were encountered while processing:  /var/cache/apt/archives/kde-config-telepathy-accounts_4%3a15.12.3-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb
[07:21] <afrohealer> i then ran the following two commands..
[07:21] <afrohealer> sudo apt-get purge account-plugin-google
[07:21] <afrohealer> sudo apt-get install -f
[07:25] <afrohealer> and this is the error message i get now ..   https://paste.kde.org/phkunyykp
[07:26] <afrohealer> any sugestion on how to resolve this?
[07:30] <acheronuk> you said you had purged account-plugin-google, but clearly not completely or successful if it wants to overwrite a file belonging to that
[07:35] <afrohealer> Hmmm ..seemsl like this is a know kubuntu install bug
[07:35] <acheronuk> If you REALLY get stuck you can: cd /var/cache/apt/archives/
[07:35] <afrohealer> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kaccounts-integration/+bug/1451728
[07:36] <acheronuk> sudo dpkg --force-all -i kde-config-telepathy-accounts_4%3a15.12.3-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb
[07:37] <afrohealer> It seems there is afix for this, in a ubuntu update ..
[07:37] <afrohealer> I should have run the update first, before attempting to install Kde
[07:38] <afrohealer> should it be safe to do an unistall of kde via apt-get ..
[07:38] <acheronuk> I vaguely recall something of the sort, but yes, you should always update before attempting something like this.
[07:38] <afrohealer> that was my big mistake
[07:39] <afrohealer> which i shall not make in the future
[07:40] <acheronuk> you can uninstall some components kde components causing the problems, yes. update. then reinstall using kubuntu/kde meta packages
[07:40] <acheronuk> may require a bit more apt-get fiddling, but it will be do-able
[07:43] <afrohealer> asu can see form thepastbin ..  the conflic is with kde -config-telepath ..
[07:43] <afrohealer> and now no otehr apt-get will run ,until that telepath issue is resolved..
[07:44] <afrohealer> form what i have read. it might be problematic to do a force overwrite of thsoe files.. because Kde handles telepath differently from Gnome
[07:46] <acheronuk> I was not suggesting leaving that force-overwrite in place. Just as a way to get the install to finish and cleaup.
[07:46] <afrohealer> acheronuk:  is there a dpkg option to force the uninstall?
[07:47] <afrohealer> but thatwoudl be kde overwritting a gnome file ..  and the kde versionis a different format from gnome
[07:47] <acheronuk> no, as you would then remove account-plugin-google and reinstall kde-config-telepathy-accounts
[07:47] <afrohealer> i guess i could just rename the file ..
[07:48] <afrohealer> and that way i have a copy of it right?
[07:48] <acheronuk> so you are left with just the correct kde one in place
[07:48] <afrohealer> or just make a copy ..  then overwrighe it
[07:48] <afrohealer> i am curently running gnome
[07:49] <afrohealer> when i got this systemfrom y admins. they had ubuntu installed
[07:49] <afrohealer> and i was attempting to move over to kubuntu
[07:49] <acheronuk> there are several ways you could do it. as long as you do a forced reinstall of both packages once you have managed to update, to restore any overwritten files
[07:51] <acheronuk> i.e. last thing you do is 'sudo apt-get install --reinstall kde-config-telepathy-accounts account-plugin-google'
[07:51] <afrohealer> which way would you recomend?
[07:53] <acheronuk> I would do it with the forced overight, as I (a) am comfortable enough knowing how to undo that to go with it and (b) I don't care one jot about the gnome/unity version
[07:53] <acheronuk> *overwrite
[07:54] <acheronuk> as said, you can juggle it a few ways, then force reinstall the packages in question to make sure they then have all their correct files
[07:58] <afrohealer> some in one of the bug reports. sugested doing    sudo apt-get purge kde-telepathy*`
[07:59] <afrohealer> do you think that would work, now that my currentt apt-get is in an incomplete state?
[08:00] <acheronuk> could work, but it might refuse because of the configured packages
[08:00] <acheronuk> *unconfigured
[08:00] <afrohealer> hmmm
[08:00] <afrohealer> does apt have a "rollback" feature?
[08:01] <afrohealer> or should i jstu bite thebullet and do the force install with dpkg
[08:01] <afrohealer> hmmm ..could i do a forced unistall with  dpkg?
[08:02] <acheronuk> perhaps
[08:03] <acheronuk> There are a number of ways you could break the deadlock apt has got itself into. I said how *I* would do it, but that isn't necessarily the right or best answer.
[08:07] <afrohealer> i  see two claimed solutions in the last comments of this bug report  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kaccounts-integration/+bug/1451728
[08:08] <afrohealer> 1 sugestion was. to use :sudo apt remove account-plugin-google unity-scope-gdrive kde-telepathy-minimal kde-telepathy
[08:09] <afrohealer> the other was  "sudo dpkg -r unity-scope-gdrive
[08:09] <afrohealer> sudo dpkg -r account-plugin-google
[08:09] <afrohealer> sudo apt-get -f install "
[08:09] <afrohealer> Those are pretty muchdoingthesamething right?
[08:10] <afrohealer> ooops..  sorry  .. i am still getting used to this new keyboard
[08:10] <acheronuk> I only suggested my way, as it would not need me to 'remove' anything
[08:10] <acheronuk> alternate ways exist. I can't tell you which is best
[08:11] <afrohealer> hmm.. u make a good point ..and i think iwill go with your way ..
[08:11] <afrohealer> but i will backup the file .. before it is overwritten ..
[08:11] <afrohealer> Thanks for your assistance ..  Now lets see how this goes
[08:13] <afrohealer> so  i run this right?    sudo dpkg --force-all -i kde-config-telepathy-accounts_4%3a15.12.3-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb
[08:14] <acheronuk> on the package in /var/cache/apt/archives/ yes
[08:14] <acheronuk> you may have to cd into that directory
[08:17] <acheronuk> with a bit of luck, dpkg should then carry on and configure what was left over undone from your upgrade
[08:18] <acheronuk> and maybe do an 'apt-get install -f' and 'apt-get dist-upgrade' after to just make sure everything is done
[08:20] <afrohealer> so i have to run this from var/cache/apt/archives ?
[08:22] <acheronuk> probably. I think dpkg will not like it if you give it a path you are not on. or copy the file to your current terminal working directory 1st
[08:23] <afrohealer> thanks
[08:23] <acheronuk> don't thank me until it's fixed :P
[08:24] <afrohealer> i amthankign you for your assistance
[08:24] <afrohealer> which is greatly appreciated
[08:28] <afrohealer> hmmm .. i just found an unistall option .. which supposedly will force the uninstall of a package that did not completely install .   using  dpkg --purge --force-all
[08:29] <acheronuk>  there is that
[08:29] <acheronuk> pick a way. whichever you choose will require some additional apt/dpkg cleanup
[08:33] <afrohealer> since this is a fresh install of Ubuntu ..    whichone do uthink will require theleast amount of tinkering?
[08:43] <afrohealer> uare a genius
[08:43] <acheronuk> not quite
[08:43] <afrohealer> acheronuk:  that command was sucessfull
[08:44] <acheronuk> good :)
[08:45] <afrohealer> so now run apt-get -f install right?
[08:45] <afrohealer> so now run apt-get -f install right?/
[08:45] <acheronuk> yes, then 'apt-get dist-upgrade'
[08:46] <acheronuk> just to make sure nothing is left
[08:46] <afrohealer> k
[08:46] <acheronuk> also make sure the 'kubuntu-desktop' package did actually manage to install
[08:47] <afrohealer> how do i verify that it installed?
[08:48] <acheronuk> apt-cache policy kubuntu-desktop
[08:49] <acheronuk> should list a version next to installed: if it did
[08:49] <acheronuk> make sure your system is FULLY updated
[08:49] <afrohealer> yes it does..    1.338
[08:49] <afrohealer> the updates are installing right now ..
[08:50] <afrohealer> achreonuk: i cant thank you enough
[08:51] <acheronuk> then once done you can try to reinstall whatever package had it's files overwirtten, just to doubly make sure they are restored ok
[08:51] <acheronuk> and the updates let them now co-exist
[08:51] <afrohealer> ok ..
[08:52] <afrohealer> i will as soon as the updates finish
[08:52] <acheronuk> ok. if that bug was fixed, it should be fine
[08:54] <afrohealer> they claim the bug was fixed ..  but there are also others who were saying it was not ..
[08:56] <acheronuk> I have KDE/kubuntu, xfce4 and lxqt desktops installed, but not gnome or unity, so I can't say whether it really was or not. plus I'm on yakkety, so likely not the same anyway
[08:57] <acheronuk> I have to go for now. hope that works out :D
[08:58] <afrohealer> thanks .. i think it should ..  just watint for the updates to complete
[10:25] <john_s> @valorie I just edited the startx script for now, it appears neither xinitrc nor Xsession have anything to say about the default "client' or in this case the default client parameters to Xsession/xinitrc. Apparently they are passed to xinit which executes Xsession in the end but it may be xinit that also executes startkde, I don't know.
[10:26] <john_s> If that's the case then I don't know how the default "window manager" (desktop client) for xinit is normally getting decided.
[10:26] <john_s> startx just has a default parameter in its script that you can fill in and then startx will start kde.
[10:27] <john_s> I'm just unhappy I cannot revert the thing to what it was before I installed Cinnamon.
[13:05] <Quantos> What happened to WUBI?  I just went to install a copy of 16.04 and can't find WUBI
[13:08] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[13:10] <acheronuk> Quantos: AFAIR, wubi died as an option when Win8 and UEFI made unsupported/broken/dangerous
[13:10] <acheronuk> *made it
[13:11] <Quantos> Ah, thanks, I just found an article on it acheronuk
[13:11] <BluesKaj> wubi was hopeless anyway
[13:14] <yocs0000> hi everybody, file search from within dolphin does not seem to work. I have Kubuntu 16.04 LTS 64 bit. everyhting up to date. File search active.
[13:17] <yocs0000> I search and it does always return 0 files, even if I search for file names tht I know are there.
[13:25] <BluesKaj> yocs0000, if you're on a laptop, plug in the power cord
[13:37] <Driminicus> Korganizer doesn't work after I added the kubuntu-backports-landing ppa and upgraded
[13:37] <yocs0000> BluesKaj: why?
[13:38] <Driminicus> it says "the akonadi personal information management service is not operational."
[13:38] <Driminicus> running akonadictl start from terminal
[13:38] <Driminicus> spits out this:
[13:38] <Driminicus> https://paste.kde.org/pu38bdav0
[13:38] <mpo42vr_> j wxwidgets
[13:39] <acheronuk> Driminicus: 'sudo mkdir /var/lib/mysql-files'
[13:44] <Driminicus> that helped, for for some reason mysql spits out a lot of these types of errors
[13:44] <Driminicus> Error    : Can't find file: './akonadi/pimitemtable.frm' (errno: 13 - Permission denied)
[13:44] <Driminicus> these files do exist, and have 660 permissions
[14:03] <yocs0000> BluesKaj: power cord is plugged and battery is 100%?
[14:03] <acheronuk> Driminicus: not sure. in few cases I've seen, creating that missing directory has been enough to solve it
[14:03] <Driminicus> I see
[14:05] <acheronuk> I don't personally use PIM, or at least any of it that requires akonadi to actually work!
[14:09] <Driminicus> ah
[14:09] <Driminicus> I figured it out
[14:09] <Driminicus> somehow the ./akonadi/ dir itself had it permissions messed up
[14:10] <Driminicus> thanks for the help
[14:11] <yocs0000> hi everybody, file search from within dolphin does not seem to work. I have Kubuntu 16.04 LTS 64 bit. everyhting up to date. File search active.
[14:11] <yocs0000> I search and it does always return 0 files, even if I search for file names tht I know are there.
[14:29] <BluesKaj> yocs0000, are you using the find option in dolphin?
[14:29] <BluesKaj> I have to ask
[14:54] <momoe> **A wild Momoe appears!!**
[14:55] <momoe> Hiii everyone, I was wondering if anyone has any preferred image manager apps they can reccomend? I'm looking for something that can sort by image dimensions, and has a bookmark feature
[14:59] <BluesKaj> momoe imagemagick has a lot of options , not sure about the sorting part tho
[15:01] <momoe> I've dabbled with image magic just a little bit, Gwenview has a lot of potential and a clean UI, but the plugins are broken atm
[15:01] <momoe> All it says is "KXML Hellow world tools..."
[15:04] <BluesKaj> heh, i installed imagemagick a while back , now when I launch it just crashes ..not exactly a good recommendation :-/
[15:05] <momoe> c.c
[15:05] <momoe> ɔ.ɔ
[15:05] <momoe>  (｡◠‿◠｡)
[15:06] <BluesKaj> think the cli tools probly work ok tho
[15:06] <momoe> Are you familliar with the "KXML Hello World tools..." is with Gwenview? I was hoping to see about getting those working and seeing what plugins are offered
[15:06] <momoe> I also see it in Kubuntu's screenshot utility, so I guess it's not just localized there
[15:08] <momoe> Specctacle>Export To...>Online Services>KXML Hello World Tools...
[15:08] <BluesKaj> momoe, never heard of KXML Hello World tools
[15:09] <momoe> hmmm... google tells me it's related to "kipiplugin"?
[15:11] <momoe> oh well, I'll give image magic an indepth go
[15:13] <momoe> Oh, XnViewMP is also another option, although it's mostly tuned towards the Windows crowd
[15:13] <momoe> it does come in a linux-ish flavor
[15:17] <BluesKaj> gwenview has improved their list of options in the last few kf/qt upgrades
[15:17] <acheronuk> kipi-plugins have been too outdated to work properly gwenview for a while now
[15:18] <acheronuk> kde/now fixed that I think, so should get sorted somtime soon I hope
[15:24] <momoe> @acheronuk, I hope so. I would like a simpler solution to upload my screenshots than the manual way.
[15:25] <acheronuk> momoe: They have. Just can't find a link.
[15:27] <momoe> Oh, ty for helping
[16:13] <viewer|20281> hello. I have issue with the checksums of the ISOs.
[16:14] <viewer|20281> I get 79f46b96ae3b3fa858cccfd214478e2f for the 16.04.1 immage
[16:14] <acheronuk> what issues? they either pass or fail
[16:15] <acheronuk> amd64?
[16:15] <viewer|20281> downloaded directly and via bitorrent.
[16:15] <viewer|20281> yes amd64
[16:16] <acheronuk> ok. can you link to where you are finding the iso links and checksums please.
[16:17] <viewer|20281> of course: checksums: http://kubuntu.org/alternative-downloads  at the bottom
[16:18] <viewer|20281> downloads: Bittorrent from this side
[16:18] <viewer|20281> direct download from the main side: http://kubuntu.org/getkubuntu/
[16:20] <viewer|20281> direct link: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/16.04.1/release/kubuntu-16.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso
[16:21] <viewer|20281> checksum generated via:  md5sum "kubuntu-16.04.1-desktop-amd64(1).iso"
[16:24] <acheronuk> could be those have not been updated and are still the 16.04.0 ones?
[16:24] <viewer|20281> If I use unetboot in or start-medium-creator these images do also not boot (error message:  "boot error" ; tested on one Laptop and on PC)
[16:24] <acheronuk> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/16.04.1/release/MD5SUMS will be correct
[16:25] <acheronuk> ahoneybun: ^^^ iso checksums on the kubuntu site?
[16:26] <viewer|20281> Thanks.
[16:26] <viewer|20281> The description text was updated. on the side I posted.
[16:26] <yocs0000> BluesKaj: yes, of course .....
[16:28] <viewer|20281> However maybe another hash command was used to generate the ones on the side. The descriptions also mentions a  HowTo, which is not linked properly.
[16:28] <BluesKaj> yocs0000, and you have file search enabled in system settings>search ?
[16:30] <acheronuk> viewer|20281: I just the guy who doe most on the site, so hopefully he can take a look
[16:30] <viewer|20281> Ah, thanks. I just looked how to report it best.
[16:32] <acheronuk> for ref, the cdimage page md5sums are always correct, unless some catastrophe happens on the ubuntu infrastructure.
[16:32] <BluesKaj> viewer|20281, the only problem I had with those images wasn't the sums, but the downloads finishing completely be thay torrent or htmal download , the zsync downloads worked best for me
[16:33] <BluesKaj> torrent or html
[16:34] <acheronuk> if I want to update, I zsync
[16:34] <BluesKaj> the sums never failed
[16:34] <viewer|20281> thanks, I will keep that in mind
[16:35] <BluesKaj> the torrent downloads failed to finish at times as did the html , aaamof the html had to be restarted in order to finish
[16:46] <viewer|20281> acheronuk: the sha256sum matches the website, so I guess the only think to improve is a link to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToSHA256SUM and maybe a short sentence that these are not MD5s.
[16:46] <viewer|20281> acheronuk: sorry for wasting your time
[16:55] <yocs0000> BluesKaj: yes
[17:36] <user|57790> I lost administrative privilege how can i restore them
[17:49] <yocs0000> owwwww! Baloo is SO FRUSTRATING ....
[17:50] <BluesKaj> odd yocs0000 , the find oprion in dolphin works here, have you checked the logs for errors ?
[17:51] <BluesKaj> option
[17:52] <yocs0000> BluesKaj: where does it log the errors
[17:53] <BluesKaj>  look in /var/log/syslog
[17:55] <yocs0000> BluesKaj: nothing .... it is behaving erratically. I now stop testng it, calm down have some fun, and come back .... I need a clear mind.
[17:56] <yocs0000> BluesKaj: thanks for help anyway.
[18:00] <GrantD> How to change Dolphin File to double click to open files/folders?
[18:00] <Nytram> It's in your mouse settings
[18:01] <GrantD> Thanks!
[18:01] <ahoneybun> acheronuk, that link uses MD5SUMs
[18:01] <ahoneybun> but ours has SHA256
[18:01] <GrantD> Btw, is there an easy way to launch a service/application at startup?
[18:02] <GrantD> I want my RealVNC to start automatically when rebooting the machine.
[18:04] <BluesKaj> GrantD, system settings> startup&shtdown>autostart>add program
[18:04] <GrantD> nice!...thanks :)
[18:05] <Nytram> KDE... lovely. 8)
[20:25] <chaene> hi I'm trying to compile kde partition manager 2 alpha version and I get an error when running cmake
[20:25] <chaene> I think it is a missing package but I can't figure out which one.
[20:32] <BluesKaj> chaene, what's wrong with the default kde partition manager ?
[20:32] <chaene> It has a bug. No OK button in the edit mount point dialog. Has been reported to be fixed in the current alpha
[20:33] <chaene> that's the error I have https://paste.kde.org/pkznzwtqf
[20:33] <BluesKaj> that's odd I'm on Xenial and the version I have works fine
[20:34] <chaene> which version do you have.
[20:34] <chaene> 1.1 does not have the bug and 1.2 does
[20:44] <BluesKaj> when i had problems with the kde partitioner , i just switched to gparted. At the time it was superior to the kde version..I still use it
[21:15] <QBee> hello
[21:16] <QBee> wich are requeriments to install kubuntu 16.04, can't found them in the website
[21:41] <mparillo> You can get away with a 1GB Netbook, if you do some web browsing and light document editing, but there are probably better distros.