[06:21] <ducasse> morning, all
[06:21] <EriC^^> morning ducasse :)
[06:23] <ducasse> hey, EriC^^ - take any photos while i was sleeping? :)
[06:23] <EriC^^> hehe no :)
[06:24] <ducasse> just thought you mentioned last night you wanted to take some night pics :)
[06:24] <ducasse> what kind of camera is this new one you bought, anyway?
[06:24] <EriC^^> yeah i do, maybe today :)
[06:25] <EriC^^> it's a nikon 5300d
[06:27] <ducasse> wow, that looks nice :) i was into photography when i was back in school, they had a darkroom that they let me use. haven't kept it up, though.
[06:30] <EriC^^> it seems like a nice hobby, sometimes when i drive in the morning or sunset the sky looks really nice and i think i wish i had a camera or something
[06:32] <ducasse> yes it does, i really liked the darkroom work as well. not much of that these days :)
[06:34] <EriC^^> sounds interesting
[06:35] <EriC^^> i recently just read about camera's and pictures and stuff
[06:36] <EriC^^> iso aperture and shutter speed
[06:36] <ducasse> a friend of mine is a professional photographer, he used to do some really impressive work with making prints on highly specialized paper in various ways, it's a real art.
[06:40] <EriC^^> that's cool
[06:42] <ducasse> i need to reinstall my server now, so i'll need to set up my mail services again. was thinking of putting it into an lxc container on a loop device to make it easy to back up and move around, any thoughts on that?
[06:44] <EriC^^> i've never used lxc containers, no idea
[06:45] <EriC^^> but it sounds simple enough?
[06:46] <EriC^^> you transport the whole mail service then transport it back?
[06:46] <ducasse> ok, i'll ask for tips in #ubuntu-server, but since it has just one user i don't think performance should be a problem.
[06:46] <EriC^^> aha
[06:47] <ducasse> no, i just replicate the config into a container so it is easy to move if i need to later, or for the next time i reinstall.
[06:47] <EriC^^> oh i see
[06:49] <ducasse> the ideal scenario on a fresh install is to just let the installer run, set up zfs, and just start all my containers.
[06:49] <EriC^^> i've yet to delve into containers and virtualization and such
[06:49] <EriC^^> pretty eager to learn about these stuff, maybe some day
[06:49] <EriC^^> deployment, etc. after all if i hope to get a job in linux one day i'd need these stuff for sure
[06:50] <ducasse> i really like both kvm and lxc, just started looking at lxc about six months back. it works really well.
[06:50] <ducasse> i wish we had virt back when i was working in the indestry :)
[06:50] <ducasse> *industry
[06:52] <EriC^^> cool, yeah it seems to open a lot of possibilities and stuff
[06:54] <ducasse> yes, things like libvirt are just soooo nice to work with, also. /me <3 libvirt and zfs :)
[06:55] <EriC^^> :)
[06:56] <ducasse> knowing how to work with libvirt would certainly help you get a job. lxd as well.
[06:57]  * EriC^^ will look into them
[06:57] <EriC^^> sometimes i wish we could do like the movie matrix and plug in all those info to our brains
[06:57] <EriC^^> lol, so much to learn, so little time
[06:58] <ducasse> tip for EriC^^: one of the fedora sites, the one with all the docs, has a really good one on virtualization, how to work with virt-manager etc.
[06:58] <EriC^^> thank you :)
[06:59] <EriC^^> i'll check it out
[07:00] <ducasse> all of the #ubuntu* collective knowledge would be really awesome :-D
[07:00] <ducasse> lots of smart people here
[07:00] <EriC^^> yeah
[07:01] <ducasse> what kind of laptop are you getting next week, btw?
[07:02] <EriC^^> i was thinking the msi prestige pe60 6qe , or the msi leopard pro gp62 6qe
[07:06] <EriC^^> i wish i could get both, it's a little difficult deciding on the color
[07:06] <EriC^^> i've never had a silver laptop before so i kind of want it, then again i'm used to good black laptops
[07:07] <ducasse> is this a problem? https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=271163.0
[07:11] <ducasse> EriC^^: see discussion at bottom: http://www.linlap.com/msi_gp62_leopard_pro
[07:13] <EriC^^> seems doable
[07:13] <EriC^^> the nvidia/intel hybrid thing might be a hassle though
[07:15] <ducasse> yes, it seems the 960m has/had a few problems with linux, but all the posts i can find are ~6 months old or older, so it might be fixed now.
[07:16] <EriC^^> yeah, many people come to the channel cause of hybrid graphics problems
[07:16] <EriC^^> amd is more straightforward i think
[07:18] <ducasse> yes, but are you planning to game under linux? are the amd drivers good enough now?
[07:18] <EriC^^> nope no gaming
[07:19] <EriC^^> i want it for the i7 4 core honestly
[07:20] <ducasse> oh, then you should be fine, i'd expect. i'd still probably avoid amd, but that's just me.
[07:26] <EriC^^> yeah amd isn't that great right now i think
[13:08] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all