[02:57] <bigman> trying to add an alias in my profile, how can i add speech marks inside the alias defintion speech marks? for example: alias test="echo "testing 123""
[10:06] <Scooby> Hi
[10:06] <Scooby> I need some help installing it :/
[10:07] <Scooby> Would ay of you lovely fellow care to help me?
[10:08] <knome> ask the real question and find out :)
[10:08] <Scooby> Well, I install via usb then when I take it out when it says, it just says not boot media found.
[10:10] <Scooby> anyway you can assist me?
[10:10] <knome> is it a dual boot system?
[10:10] <Scooby> i dont have any other os
[10:11] <Scooby> so i guess not
[10:12] <Scooby> does it need to be dual boot, if so i can make it
[10:12] <Scooby> I have a win 10 iso on my desktop
[10:12] <knome> no, doesn't have to be, just checking
[10:12] <Scooby> ok
[10:13] <knome> do you see a boot menu?
[10:14] <Scooby> When i have the usb in
[10:14] <Scooby> I see, try, install, manufacture install, then the other one
[10:14] <knome> no, that's not the one i'm referring to
[10:14] <Scooby> in that case no
[10:15] <knome> hmm.
[10:15]  * knome tries to summon a wild Unit193 
[10:16] <Scooby> after ive tried installing this ill tell you what i see
[10:16] <knome> http://askubuntu.com/questions/418268/how-to-fix-no-boot-media-found-on-dual-disk-setup-after-uefi-ubuntu-installati
[10:16] <Scooby> "installation is complete. you need to restart the computer to use the new installation"
[10:16] <Scooby> thanks, ill give this a ponder
[10:17] <knome> basically it's possible that the boot loader is looking at the wrong place, but if you don't get to the boot loader...
[10:17] <knome> alternatively it might have something to do with UEFI
[10:17] <knome> (not if it's an older computer)
[10:17] <Scooby> im using a toshiba laptop
[10:17] <Scooby> toshia satelite c50-b-14d
[10:18] <Scooby> the release date of it was 2 years ago
[10:18] <Scooby> I think i got it about a year ago tho
[10:18] <knome> it might be UEFI
[10:18] <Scooby> can i turn that off or not?
[10:18] <knome> maybe
[10:18] <Scooby> ive turned off secure boot btw
[10:19] <knome> okay, then you have turned off UEFI
[10:19] <Scooby> "Reboot and select proper Boot device /n or Insert Boot Media in selected Boot device then press a key"
[10:19] <Scooby> after installing it
[10:19] <Scooby> is there a way i should be installing it like with partions
[10:21] <Scooby> @knome
[10:21] <knome> just a moment...
[10:21] <Scooby> ok
[10:22] <bluesabre> secure boot != UEFI
[10:22] <knome> no?
[10:22] <knome> (:
[10:22] <Scooby> ?
[10:22] <Scooby> where do i put that
[10:22] <knome> i'll leave you with bluesabre, he can likely help you more with that
[10:22] <Unit193> No, UEFI usually also has a "legacy" mode.
[10:22] <Scooby> thanks
[10:22] <bluesabre> oh good, its Unit193
[10:22] <knome> well there they all are
[10:22] <flocculant> :)
[10:22]  * knome runs and hides
[10:23] <Scooby> ive read somewhere that toshiba doesnt like linux
[10:23] <knome> Scooby, good luck, except that you won't need the luck as Unit193 will be able to sort you through
[10:23] <knome> ;)
[10:23] <Scooby> Thanks
[10:23] <bluesabre> I'm not very good with bios/efi/uefi but I know that it can be a pain
[10:23] <Scooby> Secure Boot is disabled
[10:23] <Scooby> shall i put the mode on master+super instead of user
[10:23] <flocculant> Scooby: quick question - when you installed did you do the 'something else' option at the disk partition stage?
[10:24] <Unit193> bluesabre: Right, and sometimes with the latter you can use the magical tool to fix it.
[10:25] <Scooby> no flucc
[10:25] <Scooby> it said advanced user only
[10:25] <Scooby> so i didnt touch that xD
[10:25] <flocculant> mmm - cos "knome: do you see a boot menu?
[10:26] <flocculant> 13:14  Scooby: When i have the usb in"
[10:26] <flocculant> implies to me that the bootloader is somehow on the usb
[10:26] <Scooby> my program i used has bootloader on it
[10:26] <Scooby> i used UNetbootin
[10:26] <flocculant> oh nvm anyway - see that's the usb menu
[10:27] <Scooby> Ye
[10:27] <Scooby> Shall i try re install it with ur assistance
[10:27] <flocculant> you can resinstall the bootloader from your usb
[10:27] <Scooby> oh i can?
[10:28] <flocculant> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#via_the_LiveCD_terminal
[10:28] <Scooby> shall i press c?
[10:28] <Scooby> for command line
[10:28] <flocculant> ?
[10:28] <flocculant> oh - win+t
[10:28] <Scooby> wait, i see a command line that starts with
[10:28] <Scooby> grub>
[10:29] <flocculant> oh hang on
[10:29] <flocculant> just reboot the machine with the usb in - then wait for try/install - then look at that wiki page
[10:30] <Scooby> i have
[10:30] <Scooby> but i dont see where to put those cmds
[10:30] <flocculant> not if you're seeing grub> you haven't
[10:30] <Scooby> oh
[10:30] <Scooby> I see now
[10:30] <Scooby> i load into try
[10:30] <Scooby> then do it
[10:31] <flocculant> yea
[10:31] <Scooby> i mean id prefferabbly would like mint but atm im just desperate for any linux distro xD
[10:32] <bluesabre> We're fresh too, just not minty
[10:33] <Scooby> xD
[10:33] <Scooby> This is complicated for my ickle mind xD
[10:33] <Scooby> it says i have loads of partitions
[10:34] <Scooby> oh thats /ram0-15
[10:34] <Scooby> i have sda1,sda2,sda3
[10:34] <Scooby> Please can you help me xD Im much nub much wow
[10:34] <flocculant> run this - sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit
[10:35] <flocculant> when it's given you the url - give us that
[10:35] <Scooby> ok
[10:36] <Scooby> pastebin.com/47sLryJC
[10:36] <Scooby> pastebin.com/r7sLryJC
[10:36] <Scooby> r sorry not a 4
[10:36] <Scooby> pastebin.com/r7sLryJC
[10:36] <Scooby> pastebin.com/r7sLryJC
[10:36] <Scooby> thats it
[10:38] <Scooby> u get it?
[10:39] <flocculant> yea - and see the EFI partition, not going to be much help here I'm afraid - I turn all that uefi/secure boot stuff off here
[10:39] <Scooby> ive turned off secure boot
[10:40] <flocculant> well your machine has a efi partition
[10:40] <Scooby> oh
[10:40] <Scooby> Shall i try delete it
[10:40] <Scooby> with gparted
[10:41] <Scooby> ooh, ive deleted the efi
[10:42] <flocculant> that said if you have no other operating systems on it - you could reinstall - not in uefi mode - might be simpler
[10:42] <Scooby> how?
[10:42] <Scooby> i just install it now
[10:43] <flocculant> when I boot my usb it has 2 options, uefi or not
[10:43] <flocculant> yes
[10:43] <Scooby> mine doesnt
[10:43] <Scooby> shall i try install with the try mode
[10:43] <flocculant> I guess so
[10:44] <Scooby> ill let you know when i get to the partition bit
[10:44] <flocculant> you might be better off in #ubuntu, more eyes looking
[10:45] <Scooby> awtitttt
[10:45] <Scooby> "Force uefi installation"
[10:46] <Scooby> "Go Back" "Continue in UEFI mode"
[10:46] <flocculant> mmm - no idea - as I said not likely to be of much help mucking about with uefi/secure boot stuff
[10:46] <Scooby> k
[10:46] <Scooby> shall i goto #ubuntu
[10:46] <flocculant> unless someone else jumps in here - try there
[10:46] <Scooby> ok
[10:47] <flocculant> just pretend you're installing ubuntu if someone asks - at this level we're the same system
[11:03] <Scooby> They were no help :(
[11:03] <Scooby> I think i might have to get a new laptop
[11:07] <knome> sounds like a radical measure to me
[11:09] <Scooby> ye :(
[11:09] <Scooby> all I want is linux :(
[11:53] <xubuntu46w> hello to everybody!
[12:34] <Scooby> hi
[12:56] <StayaSinic>  guys, how to disable desktop magnifier? i get into settings - editor - xfwm - zoom_desktop  - false, but zoom wokr now!
[14:28] <Fernando-Basso> StayaSinic: http://askubuntu.com/questions/479465/how-to-disable-alt-scroll-zoom-in-xubuntu-14-04
[14:28] <Fernando-Basso> Alt-F2 xfce4-settings-editor
[14:31] <Fernando-Basso> StayaSinic: What version of xubuntu are you running?
[14:32] <Fernando-Basso> It works for me on xubuntu 16.04.
[14:33] <StayaSinic> 1404 with 4.10
[14:34] <StayaSinic> i do it for this man and nothing. zoom is work
[14:35] <StayaSinic> in config zoom_desktop has false.
[14:35] <StayaSinic> dunno
[14:36] <Fernando-Basso> You could trying logging out and in again if you had not tried yet.
[14:59] <StayaSinic> i do it first
[15:01] <StayaSinic> maybe xfwm use other config but i can't find it. just default on usr/share.  i'm disapoint. watewer. simple disable compiz
[15:46] <krytarik> StayaSinic: You are trying to affect the behavior of one window manager by fiddling with the settings of another.
[15:48] <StayaSinic> mmm~
[15:48] <StayaSinic> proceed
[15:49] <StayaSinic> *proced
[15:50] <StayaSinic> krytarik, xfce have only xfwm. or not?
[16:01] <krytarik> StayaSinic: Compiz is the second one you have from somewhere though.
[16:23] <StayaSinic> compiz not installed. i mean effects on configure menu.
[16:24] <StayaSinic> in disable this - magnifier is off. but shadows, and other candyeye is disabled too.
[16:40] <krytarik> StayaSinic: Ok yeah, I figured from #xfce that you might have just misspelled.  Any specific reason why you want to disable it in the first place?  Myself I did the following, because it also interferes with the window transparency feature: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2228495&p=13044180#post13044180
[16:43] <StayaSinic> I saw this thread. I have hotkeys to dim and I often touch touchpad. This is problem.
[16:43] <StayaSinic> *alt
[16:45] <StayaSinic> Okay. it does not matter. Too much of a headache
[16:52] <krytarik> StayaSinic: So I presume you added that setting manually?  Because it was only added in a later version of Xfwm than yours, and hence cannot work for you: https://git.xfce.org/xfce/xfwm4/tree/NEWS#n22
[17:01] <StayaSinic> no, it's config setting be at clean install. i'm do not touch anything. now i know why it's not work. it's not support in 4.10. so sad.
[17:02] <StayaSinic> This is xfwm4 version 4.11.1
[17:02] <StayaSinic> hm. need update
[17:03] <StayaSinic> I'm sorry for the confusion
[17:06] <StayaSinic> now time for install 4.12
[17:11] <StayaSinic> krytarik, on 4.12 version zoom_desktop setting work.  thanks for helping!
[17:11] <krytarik> Sure - you're welcome.
[18:15] <xubuntu333> hey is it possable to get xubuntu to be useable asfter downloading window7 and upgrading it to windows 10?
[18:15] <xubuntu333> hey is it possable to get xubuntu to be useable asfter downloading window7 and upgrading it to windows 10?
[18:16] <xubuntu333> bye ,no one is there to help :(
[18:18] <xangua> Usable after updating to Windows 10?
[18:25] <willie> I have an annoyance with VLC on 16.04 that didn't happen on 14.0x. I used to be able to just click the orange and white cone in the systray to minimize and maximize it. Now I have to click it and then either Hideor Show VLCso it takes 2 clicks where it used to just take 1. Still does 1 click on my Windows 7 system. Puzzling...
[19:06] <tmsbrg> willie, could be from a VLC update in how it reacts to tray icon clicks
[19:06] <tmsbrg> I agree that sounds a bit annoying though
[19:24] <xangua> willie: is the Skype icon showing in Ubuntu indicators or xfce system tray?
[19:24] <xangua> Is this Skype stable or alpha?
[19:33] <StayaSinic> 2
[19:34] <StayaSinic> i mean skype use indicator-applet
[19:34] <StayaSinic> and it has no scale ico
[20:18] <Metamorphosis> hello. noob here. any ideas about partitioning this system and installing xubuntu? my windows is really important for me as i make money on it. http://img.susepaste.org/images/f5edb140.jpg
[20:21] <willie> Skype? It's not skype, it's vlc [videolan]
[20:44] <tmsbrg> Metamorphosis, first back up everything because you never know what can go wrong when installing an OS, especially if you're a self-professed noob at it
[20:46] <tmsbrg> 10 GB recovery partition? That's pretty big
[20:47] <tmsbrg> anyway Metamorphosis after you backed everything up and put Xubuntu on a USB stick and booted from it, the installer should give an option to "install alongside windows", this means it has detected Windows and if you select it, it should not break the windows partition
[20:48] <tmsbrg> if the option isn't there it's not detecting windows and installing xubuntu will clear the whole drive
[20:49] <xubuntu06w> I need help with mounting a windows partition. I receive this error message: Error mounting /dev/sda2 at /media/user/20BA2828BA27F8C4: Command-line `mount -t "ntfs" -o "uhelper=udisks2,nodev,nosuid,uid=1000,gid=1000" "/dev/sda2" "/media/user/20BA2828BA27F8C4"' exited with non-zero exit status 14: Windows is hibernated, refused to mount. Failed to mount '/dev/sda2': Operation not permitted The NTFS partition is in an unsafe stat
[20:49] <Metamorphosis> yeah because sony used to install loads of bloatware. they included that hell of crapware in the recovery partition too
[20:49] <xubuntu06w> I'm dual booting windows 7 and 16.04.1
[20:50] <tmsbrg> xubuntu06w, the error message says you can't mount it while windows is hibernated. Start Windows and shut it down and it'll be mountable
[20:50] <xubuntu06w> The thing is, I tried booting into windows and it is messed up
[20:50] <xubuntu06w> There is no gui, but I hear the start up chime.
[20:51] <xubuntu06w> So I need to force shut down and boot into xubuntu again
[20:51] <tmsbrg> so your Windows might be a bit broken
[20:52] <tmsbrg> it's possible you could override the behaviour so you can mount it even though it's hibernated, it'd probably be unsafe somehow but you could recover the data
[20:52] <xubuntu06w> I installed it with no issues, then installed xubuntu and was able to boot into both OS's without issues. but then after a second reboot windows became unmountable from ubuntu
[20:53] <xubuntu06w> Yeah my only option at this point is to mount from xubuntu, but I don't know how to from the terminal. Can you help me out with configuring a command? I don't care if I loose the hibernation session since there is no sensitive info on windows right now
[20:53] <tmsbrg> xubuntu06w, I wouldn't know myself but this is the first thing that came up with duckduckgo search: http://blog.arvixe.com/how-to-force-mount-unclean-shutdowned-windows-ntfs-or-fat32-drive-in-linux/ might be what you need
[20:54] <xubuntu06w> thanks I'll try this and get back to you
[20:58] <xubuntu06w> the terminal responds with "the NTFS partition is in an unsafe state"
[20:58] <xubuntu06w> even though I used the force command
[20:58] <xubuntu06w> it tells me to mount as read only
[20:58] <tmsbrg> you only need to read from it, right?
[20:58] <xubuntu06w> yes
[20:59] <xubuntu06w> here's my command: sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda2 /media/location -o force
[20:59] <xubuntu06w> Where does 'ro' fit in there to mount as read only?
[20:59] <tmsbrg> you could try instead of force, using ro
[20:59] <tmsbrg> sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda2 /media/location -o ro
[20:59] <tmsbrg> or if that doesn't work, use '... -o force,ro' to combine the options
[20:59] <xubuntu06w> That worked
[20:59] <tmsbrg> nice
[21:00] <xubuntu06w> thanks.
[21:00] <tmsbrg> np
[21:00] <xubuntu06w> I'm going to reboot and see if windows will boot properly now
[21:00] <tmsbrg> if it will, I don't think it had to do with mounting it just now
[21:00] <xubuntu06w> ok
[21:00] <xubuntu06w> brb
[21:09] <xubuntu93w> okay, looks like it worked. I can now boot into windows and at startup in xubuntu, the windows drive is mountable from thunar
[21:09] <xubuntu93w> It looks like the windows drive isn't mounted by default when i boot into xubuntu? is this always the case?
[21:12] <xubuntu93w> And does when I do mount it from the gui in thunar, is it mounted as read only?
[21:13] <xubuntu93w> *and when