[02:20] <Capum321> hello, a bash script with `sudo rtcwake --seconds 60 --mode disk` doesn't wake. it actually sets the time to wake up to 3 hours from the moment i ran the script?
[08:00] <dplush> hello everyone. what could be a possible way to try out lubuntu with lxqt on an raspberrypi3?
[08:03] <dplush> currently there is only an 16.04 img for raspberry and the metapackage lubuntu-qt-desktop is not found
[08:03] <dplush> is this metapackage available only in yakkety?
[10:35] <dplush> i tried as suggested here -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/LXQt#Installing_LXQt_on_fresh_system
[10:35] <dplush> but lubuntu-qt-desktop is not found
[16:05] <dust> what are the actual plans for 16.10... lxde or lxqt... is there a link with a plan or so?
[16:09] <dust> and would be nice to use vlc as standard media player
[16:18] <dplush> here they are not very talkative
[16:30] <lynorian> I think smplayer is in consideration for default media player in lxqt but that is not decided yet
[16:32] <thepiercingarrow> hai
[16:32] <thepiercingarrow> but if I do killall openbox & dwm - would that replace openbox with dwm and keep the session running inside lxde?
[16:35] <lynorian> thepiercingarrow, I would look at man dwm and see if it has a --replace option like openbox does
[16:35] <thepiercingarrow> lynorian: I checked, it does not. That is why I am so confused..
[16:36] <thepiercingarrow> Is there a Lubuntu beginners guide sorta like the Arch beginners guide?
[16:36] <thepiercingarrow> Like, instructions on installation?
[16:36] <lynorian> Well I have not used dwm and mostly used openbox
[16:36] <thepiercingarrow> (partitioning, pacstrap, etc)
[16:37] <thepiercingarrow> lynorian: I see. openbox is default, right?
[16:37] <lynorian> yes
[16:37] <lynorian> I don't think lxde quite works well with all window managers
[16:37] <thepiercingarrow> okay
[16:37] <thepiercingarrow> thanks
[16:37] <lynorian> I know it does not work well with i3
[16:38] <lynorian> I got bored one day and got it to somewhat work with marco the mate window manager
[16:39] <lynorian> thepiercingarrow, I think you could have dwm default and replace with openbox but not the other way around
[16:40] <thepiercingarrow> lynorian: okay, that makes sense. Thanks
[16:40] <thepiercingarrow> lynorian: so, to make dwm my default, I just have to edit the ~/.xinitrc ?
[16:40] <lynorian> well there is a graphical way in defualt applicatoins for lxsession
[16:41] <lynorian> to change it for window manager in core applications I think
[16:41] <thepiercingarrow> lxsession?
[16:41] <thepiercingarrow> Sorry I am incrediably new to Lubuntu
[16:41] <lynorian> it is a session manager for lubuntu that is part of lxde
[16:41] <thepiercingarrow> Oh
[16:41] <thepiercingarrow> So I could change my WM through there?
[16:42] <lynorian> yes
[16:42] <lynorian> it is in the menu under prefrences I think
[16:42] <thepiercingarrow> okay thanks
[16:42] <thepiercingarrow> hm lubuntu installation is taking a long time...
[16:42] <lynorian> thepiercingarrow, how much ram do you have and are you running a live session on top of it?
[16:43] <thepiercingarrow> lynorian: live session?
[16:43] <thepiercingarrow> lynorian: 1GiB inside a VM (the iso is in a VM)
[16:43] <lynorian> thepiercingarrow, oh this is a vm is it slower than other vms
[16:44] <lynorian> is your host system linux?
[16:44] <thepiercingarrow> lynorian: qemu
[16:44] <thepiercingarrow> host OS X
[16:45] <thepiercingarrow> qemu is the VM, host is OS X
[16:45] <thepiercingarrow> I could change the host to Arch Linux though...
[16:45] <thepiercingarrow> I have Arch Linux running in a VM on OS X
[16:46] <thepiercingarrow> so I could run another VM in there
[16:47] <thepiercingarrow> Woah! Ubuntu has its own pastebin!!
[16:48] <lynorian> thepiercingarrow, not sure how fast qemu is without kvm accelartion as I have heard it is only really used it on linux hosts am pretty sure that is not supported on os x which may not be the fastest
[16:48] <thepiercingarrow> lynorian: awww okay then.
[16:48] <thepiercingarrow> thanks.
[16:48] <thepiercingarrow> How long does installation normally take?
[16:49] <lynorian> thepiercingarrow, varies imensely on the hardware
[16:50] <thepiercingarrow> lynorian: a macbook (yeah, I know, it sucks)
[16:50] <thepiercingarrow> lynorian: I'm installing onto a qcow file
[16:50] <thepiercingarrow> *qcow2
[16:51] <lynorian> I don't know I have had really slow vms install if you don't have hardware accelartion like on my core 2 duo
[16:51] <lynorian> it is like 10-20 minutes on my new i5 though
[16:51] <lynorian> on this desktop
[16:51] <lynorian> my pentium IV desktop felt really slow
[16:52] <thepiercingarrow> Wow
[16:52] <thepiercingarrow> wowow
[16:52] <thepiercingarrow> thats a long time
[16:52] <thepiercingarrow> arch linux takes 5 min to install
[16:52] <thepiercingarrow> (7 inside a VM)
[16:53] <lynorian> well depends on the prompts and how many packages are installed
[16:53] <lynorian> well there is a mini iso that would be more comparable to arch
[16:54] <thepiercingarrow> would lubuntu run fine on a 4G drive?
[16:54] <thepiercingarrow> awww
[16:55] <thepiercingarrow> I should have went for the minimal install :/
[16:55] <thepiercingarrow> awwww too late
[16:55] <thepiercingarrow> its fine, shouldnt make a huge difference
[16:56] <lynorian> thepiercingarrow, that would get a bit tight and you don't have much room for say files on that
[16:56] <thepiercingarrow> oh
[16:56] <thepiercingarrow> its fine, its just for experimentation
[16:56] <thepiercingarrow> and I can always apt-get uninstall the programs I don't need, right?
[16:57] <lynorian> sure
[16:57] <thepiercingarrow> thank you so much!
[16:57] <thepiercingarrow> !give lynorian thanks
[16:57] <thepiercingarrow> hah
[16:57] <thepiercingarrow> *haha
[16:59] <thepiercingarrow> um
[16:59] <thepiercingarrow> the install iso isn't booting...
[17:02] <thepiercingarrow> I'm getting "no bootable device" even though the iso is in the cdrom
[17:05] <thepiercingarrow> ohhhh oops
[17:05] <thepiercingarrow> tramission was seeding :/
[17:06] <lynorian> thepiercingarrow, that would make it slow if you are on a spinning hard disk
[17:06] <thepiercingarrow> lynorian: what?
[17:07] <lynorian> if transmission was seeding during the install
[17:07] <thepiercingarrow> lynorian: idk - qemu said like Could not read from cdrom (code 0005) - but my lubuntu.iso is in the cdrom
[17:07] <thepiercingarrow> yeah, I closed out of tranmission but its still happening..
[17:07] <thepiercingarrow> aww I'll have to fix it later
[17:07] <thepiercingarrow> thanks so much for your help!!
[17:34] <fishcooker> i've reinstalled laptop with lubuntu 14.04.05... is there any startup link for newbie i've resolved with wireless card .. is there any pointer for newb which to start?
[17:35] <fishcooker> is laptop-mode really necessary to be installed?
[18:37] <fishcooker> after login with the valid creds, i forcefully logout by system instantly... how to troubleshoot this... which log should i see?
[18:56] <thepiercingarrow> fishcooker: /etc/login
[19:02] <fishcooker> it's weird thepiercingarrow after i do the right login then see the lubuntu panel ... the system forcefully logout my login instantly
[19:33] <lynorian> fishcooker, what session at lightdm are you trying to log into?
[19:39] <fishcooker> https://bpaste.net/show/b33c4a0aac94 lynorian
[19:39] <fishcooker> login paget to be exactly