[01:19] <SonikkuAmerica> @login
[09:44] <bazhang> tpmreyn been a issue before?
[09:44] <bazhang> tom
[09:45] <bazhang> steam installer is ugly <- yeah thats a support issue
[09:47] <ducasse> hi! could somebody please edit the topic in #ubuntu-server? it says "14.04 to 16.04 will be offered on July 21st when 16.04.1 is released"
[13:02] <rly> ikonia has been harassing me.
[13:02] <ikonia> please grow up
[13:02] <rly> It's a clear abuse of power.
[13:02] <ikonia> no-one has harassed you
[13:03] <ikonia> what do you actually want other than to make more noise
[13:03] <ikonia> as that will not continue in this channel
[13:03] <rly> Please kick ikonia off the channel and ban him for life.
[13:10] <rly> Anyone other than ikonia?
[13:10] <ikonia> I suggest you stop pretending I'm on ignore
[13:10] <ikonia> and start addressing your behaviour/bans
[13:10] <ikonia> rather than play these silly games
[13:11] <rly> My request is that you ban ikonia for life and unban me.
[13:12] <ikonia> yeah, that sounds reasonable
[13:12] <rly> ikonia is the largest troll I have ever seen on IRC.
[13:12] <rly> He even has a reputation (see ##hardware for proof).
[13:12] <chu> I will talk with you if you don't want to talk to ikonia, but he is not leaving.
[13:12] <ikonia> what are you talking about see hardware for proof ?
[13:12] <rly> chu: have you completed any university education?
[13:13] <chu> Yes
[13:13] <rly> chu: anything technical?
[13:13] <chu> I'm not sure how it is relevant.
[13:13] <ikonia> chu: he's playing the silly IQ game
[13:13] <ikonia> he'll only talk to people with a high enough IQ
[13:13] <ikonia> and silly claims like that
[13:13] <chu> Please keep discussion to the channel topic.
[13:13] <ikonia> you'll see this junk in BT
[13:13] <rly> chu: well, I have the impression that the problem is that ikonia is just not mentally able to follow my actions.
[13:13] <rly> chu: as such, discussing something with someone of the same level would just repeat the process.
[13:14] <chu> OK, now, without the insults, let's try and discuss this.
[13:14] <rly> chu: I think it's intelligent to ask a question which might have multiple causes in the channels related to it. In this case #ubuntu and ##hardware.
[13:15] <rly> chu: I also asked slightly different questions.
[13:15] <rly> chu: for example in #ubuntu I mentioned that I used unetbootin.
[13:15] <rly> chu: but the real issue is just that ikonia hates me.
[13:15] <rly> chu: which is a mutual feeling.
[13:16] <rly> chu: I have absolutely no respect for ikonia and ikonia has this twisted idea that everyone should respect anyone in the Ubuntu community and even outside of it.
[13:16] <rly> chu: and you can write everything down in your community "rules", but that gives no right to ikonia to act like a dick.
[13:17] <rly> chu: ikonia has never contributed anything remotely useful, imho.
[13:17] <rly> chu: I even have him on ignore and have had him on ignore in the past.
[13:17] <rly> chu: in short, I really do not understand what you want with ikonia.
[13:18] <rly> chu: it's just a waste of star dust.
[13:18] <rly> chu: so, that's about it.
[13:18] <rly> chu: it's not at all reasonable to ban people for doing intelligent actions.
[13:19] <rly> chu: spamming channels with even the same question can be a reasonable action.
[13:20] <rly> chu: because this depends on the complexity of the question. If the probability that anyone knows the answer is low, sending it to more doesn't waste the time of more users.
[13:20] <rly> chu: only trivial questions sent to multiple channels would do that.
[13:20] <rly> chu: as such he doesn't understand why the rules are created in the first place.
[13:21] <rly> chu: there is a word for such people, but that's probably off limits here too.
[13:21] <rly> chu: now would be your turn to say something.
[13:23] <rly> chu: are you just a fucking alias of ikonia?
[13:23] <rly> Great fucking "team" you have here.
[13:23] <rly> It's a one man army named ikonia.
[13:25] <chu> I'm not sure why the insults are necessary, and indeed, they make me less likely to want to help you. I dropped off when you were saying that "ikonia is just not mentally able to follow my actions" - if you want to resolve an issue, we can do so; but we do so in a calm environment. Considering your history in the ban-tracker, I don't get the impression you're interested in anything here except for some
[13:25] <chu> personal vendetta against ikonia.
[13:25] <ikonia> it's not just me sadly, is anyone who stops him doing exactly what he wants
[13:25] <rly> chu: I just want access to #ubuntu and I would like to have you forbid ikonia to ever contact me again.
[13:26] <ikonia> I didn't engage with him in any way shape or form, I just removed him as he's had mutliple warnings
[13:26] <rly> chu: they are not insults; they are describing the limitations of a person.
[13:26] <rly> chu: it's the limitations which cause all of this misery.
[13:26] <ikonia> so how can that work ??? I'm not allowed to engage with him, but he's upset I banned him and didn't engage
[13:26] <rly> chu: if you let a retarded person fly an aircraft, it crashed. This is no different.
[13:26] <rly> crashes*
[13:26] <ikonia> and as you can see this is just some petty insult story
[13:26] <ikonia> rather than actually any real interest in using ubuntu
[13:27] <rly> chu: the reason there are issues is that there is an intelligence gap between me and ikonia.
[13:27] <chu> rly: Regardless of whether or not you see them as insults, how do they add content to the conversation at all?
[13:27] <rly> chu: it's the core issue.
[13:27] <rly> chu: it's not about specific issues.
[13:27] <rly> chu: the core problem is that ikonia lacks the intelligence to understand what I say.
[13:27] <chu> It's as bad as a wannabe academic just name-dropping. Let me talk substance.
[13:27] <rly> chu: you can see that in the channel log.
[13:28] <rly> chu: he was unable to understand me introducing variable names for devices for example.
[13:28] <rly> chu: anyone with any mathematical background would have understood that.
[13:28] <ikonia> chu: I'll leave you to it, it's pointless to try to engage with this guy, hence why he gets banned from everywhere he visits
[13:28] <rly> chu: I see a long history of such interactions.
[13:28] <ikonia> the attitude is just self deluded or a troll
[13:28] <ikonia> I can't work out which one it is
[13:28] <chu> No. I can see repeated abuse of channel guidelines in the ban-tracker, and now a holier-than-thou user trying to crawl back in as if they have done nothing wrong.
[13:28] <rly> chu: ikonia should just never talk to me, because he can't understand what I say.
[13:29] <chu> It's amazing to me that you claim to have such an intelligence, yet are apparently too blunt to see that. But what would I know, I did drop out of high-school.
[13:29] <rly> chu: ok, so another drop out.
[13:30] <rly> chu: then there is no reason to talk to you either.
[13:30] <ikonia> chu: love that he thinks I'm a drop out, so you're now classed as another
[13:31] <chu> He actually started frustrating me just then.
[13:31] <ikonia> he's just a waste of time being open about it
[13:31] <chu> Yep. I didn't know, and then I checked the bt
[13:31] <ikonia> he's now joining random channels and asking
[13:31] <ikonia> 4:31 < rly> Just curious, but is there anyone in here who also hates ikonia?
[13:31] <chu> I should remember the name.
[13:31] <ikonia> to try to build some sort of case against me
[13:31] <chu> Which channel?
[13:32] <ikonia> doing archlinux at the moment and gentoo
[13:32] <chu> lol
[13:32] <ikonia> I think he may have some sort of social issue, I don't know though
[13:33] <chu> Unfortunately I that might be the likely case.
[21:36] <SonikkuAmerica> @login
[21:37] <Unit193> You, uh, really don't need to keep doing that if you aren't going to comment on a ban or change factoids, fwiw.
[21:39] <SonikkuAmerica> Oh OK
[21:40] <seednode> Little do they realise, I still haven't actually logged in yet
[21:40] <SonikkuAmerica> Still getting a feel for things
[21:45] <Myrtti> and, you can do it in pm, too!
[21:46]  * seednode takes notes
[22:34] <Unit193> /q Myrtti @login
[22:34] <Unit193> Oopsie.
[22:48] <SonikkuAmerica> Lol