[07:00] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[11:09] <SebthreeBQM10HD> hi
[11:15] <dataPulverizer> irc://irc.freenode.net/d
[11:31] <benxyzzy> Does the "startup disk creator" make read-only Live USBs? I want to guarantee that no trace of the session booted from the USB stick remains on the stick after shutdown
[13:03] <brmbrmcar> uh oh
[13:03] <brmbrmcar> nae ops
[14:37] <MooDoo> howdy all
[14:39] <penguin42> hey
[15:03] <popey> brmbrmcar: hm?
[18:24] <SebthreeBQM10HD> hi
[18:26] <daftykins> lo
[18:26] <daftykins> new toys \o/ http://imgur.com/a/PojKC
[18:26] <SebthreeBQM10HD> lo
[18:31]  * penguin42 has a new TV due on Tuesday
[18:31] <daftykins> penguin42: ooh anything special?
[18:32] <daftykins> just making the last two ghetto cat6 speaker cables XD
[18:32] <penguin42> daftykins: Curry's bank-holiday special 42" LCD dumb-TV
[18:32] <daftykins> ooh
[18:32] <penguin42> daftykins: JVC Freeview-HD - it's got 3 HDMI, a scary, component, 1 USB, and it does have ether (but I think for only playing local media)
[18:32] <penguin42> scary?! A scart!
[18:33] <daftykins> well it's a French standard so i'd concur ;)
[18:33] <penguin42> daftykins: But more importantly, I paid them the extra £15 to take my 32" widescreen CRT out - given it weighs about 50kg and is upstairs I'm hoping they do it
[18:34] <daftykins> oh excellent! yeah i'd pay to deal with that
[18:34] <daftykins> a Manchester guy actually invented how to recycle CRT glass, i understand
[18:34] <penguin42> really? I wonder where he is....
[18:35] <penguin42> daftykins: I'm not close enough to the Irwell to dump it in there
[18:43] <daftykins> mmm can't seem to find it
[18:44] <penguin42> daftykins: nulifeglass.com seems to be them
[18:44] <daftykins> that's the one :>
[18:48] <penguin42> daftykins: They're under 15 miles away
[18:48] <penguin42> daftykins: Although I bet my TV is on for a much longer journey
[18:48] <daftykins> \o/
[18:49] <daftykins> a gov site almost seemed to hint at pick-up for residents though?
[18:49] <daftykins> council even, i guess
[18:50] <penguin42> daftykins: As far as I could tell the council wanted £30
[18:52] <penguin42> daftykins: They've got quite a blog on the front of nulifeglass.com showing the build out of their New York furnace (and they're now building one in Virginia - I'm not sure they've even still got a UK one)
[18:54] <daftykins> i'd hope so! the original article i read spoke of licensing the process to China
[18:55] <penguin42> daftykins: I wonder what the timescale is; I mean there's only going to be a ~10 year?? window where people are recycling the bunch of them?
[18:55] <zmoylan-pi> there's probably a backlog that would take more than a few decades to recycle
[18:56] <daftykins> yeah
[18:56] <daftykins> 'cause the article spoke of them being gathered but sat around until the process was developed
[18:57] <zmoylan-pi> somewhere there's a field with a big pile of nokia 3310s waiting for scientists of the future to work out how to break them up... :-D
[18:58] <penguin42> daftykins: They might find the mythical Apple Lisa land fill
[19:00] <zmoylan-pi> next to the apple newtown pile i think
[19:01] <daftykins> :>
[19:01] <penguin42> Oh the newtons were both smaller, and I think actually sold fairly well at the time
[19:01] <zmoylan-pi> they started badly but were profitable by the time jobs got back
[19:01] <penguin42> me and a few friends bought a large box of duff ones from a local firm about 20 years ago and made working ones from pairs of duff ones and sold the working one
[19:01] <penguin42> s
[19:01] <zmoylan-pi> but i think he didn't like them as he didn't invent them
[19:02] <zmoylan-pi> i never saw one in wild mind.  this was psion country :-)
[19:02]  * penguin42 has one here but it doesn't work any more
[19:02] <penguin42> zmoylan-pi: Yeh I had the Acorn branded equivalent of the Psion 3a
[19:03] <zmoylan-pi> the school variant. putting computers in school kids hands decades before any one else
[19:04] <penguin42> I was using that during my postgrad; very useful for walking around a library taking notes from papers you had to find and research; back in the day when you had to do most stuff that way
[19:05] <zmoylan-pi> i could walk around with a psion 3a typing at 30wpm.  even standing on bus with arm wrapped around pole as it bounced across dublin
[19:05] <penguin42> nod, very good for thumb typing - was just the right size
[19:05] <daftykins> ah, one network cable left to make up
[19:05] <zmoylan-pi> i typed with 1 thumb and 1 hand using rest of the thumb using hand to grip the battery compartment so it never fell
[19:05] <penguin42> zmoylan-pi: It's a pity no one does a modern Android device in the same format; IMHO it would still work
[19:06] <zmoylan-pi> i've been saying that for a decade...
[19:06] <penguin42> zmoylan-pi: indeed someone now might be able to make more resiliant hinges
[19:06] <zmoylan-pi> even a decent case for the pi zero would do it for a low production variant
[19:07] <penguin42> zmoylan-pi: You'd need the battery/LCD/keyboard stuff
[19:07] <zmoylan-pi> that would be part of the case
[19:07] <penguin42> zmoylan-pi: and you'd have to get lucky for an uSD line up
[19:08] <penguin42> zmoylan-pi: I also have one of the things someone remade the Psion5 after they went under (can't remember the name)
[20:48] <SebthreeBQM10HD> popey, ping
[20:48] <popey> SebthreeBQM10HD: pong
[20:48] <SebthreeBQM10HD> popey, pm ?
[20:48] <popey> ok
[20:49] <SebthreeBQM10HD> popey, can you pm me, on this tablet uhmm...
[20:49] <SebthreeBQM10HD> not so easy
[20:49] <popey> it is
[20:49] <popey>  /msg <person> foo
[21:00] <SebthreeBQM10HD> popey, maybe we could of had that chat here actully oh well, and thanks ;)