[00:00] <Bashing-om> !ubuwin | Joral
[00:01] <Joral> Bashing-om, thank you, did not want to be off topic but had to start somewhere lol
[00:01] <Bashing-om> Joral: We can point :)
[00:05] <mmahack> salut
[00:06] <mmahack> hi
[00:06] <mmahack> how are u
[00:09] <danthebague> can anyone help with a samba problem? well i think it's permissions problem on credential file
[00:09] <danthebague> in fstab
[00:10] <Stray_Dillo> there's a #samba channel
[00:11] <danthebague> no ones responding there
[00:13] <Lauras> Maybe someone help my with easy problem, how to fix phpsysinfo issue by this link - https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2320833 ?
[00:13] <Lauras> renamed the /usr/share/phpsysinfo folder to phpsysinfo~ then cd to /usr/share and did a git clone https://github.com/phpsysinfo/phpsysinfo.git Then copied the link in phpsysinfo~ of phpsysinfo.ini to the new phpsysinfo and now it works!
[00:13] <Lauras> How do it, who can explain?
[00:19] <otrenav> Hi. I have a window re-arrangement problem. I have a dual-monitor setup with 4 workspaces. When I had 14.04 my computer would go to sleep an come back and all my windows would be exactly in the same place. Since I upgraded to 16.04 this behavior broke and every time the computer awakens windows are moved erratically off place. I tried restoring to 14.04 since I couldn't fix it but now I have the same issue there too. Any things on how to fix this?
[00:24] <festerB> sry 4 being a lzy ass, is there a chan for xubuntu?
[00:26] <rcvu> yes
[00:26] <rcvu> #xubuntu
[00:27]  * festerB red in face, thx!
[00:29] <malv> i just discovered how to make unity super smooth
[00:29] <malv> apparently if you have a high refresh rate monitor you can boost unity refresh rate through ccsm
[00:30] <malv> doesn't seem to detect refresh rate properly
[00:30] <malv> crazy smooth at 144hz
[00:30] <logical> Hi, is it possible to make libreoffice writer look like WPS writer, since in my opinnion it has a better theme
[00:55] <energizer> Is it possible to disable workspaces?
[00:56] <Guest18123> oi
[00:56] <Guest18123> alguem pode me ajudar
[00:56] <Guest18123> aki?
[00:57] <Guest18123> sobre linux
[00:57] <energizer> !es |Guest18123
[00:57] <Guest93654> I had Mint on my older PC and installed Ubuntu 16. Ethernet showed plugged in but not connecting.  Went back to mint and sane thing. It shows the wire plugged in but fails to connect.
[00:58] <energizer> wait that was portuguese wasnt it
[00:58] <Guest18123> somebody here speak portugueses?
[00:58] <Guest93654> Any thoughts?
[00:58] <Guest18123> my english is poor
[00:59] <Guest18123> i speak portuguese
[00:59] <energizer> !pt | Guest18123
[00:59] <Guest18123> obrigado
[00:59] <Guest18123> thanks
[01:01] <Guest93654> Anyone?
[01:01] <energizer> Guest93654: honestly for internet problems i recommend going to askubuntu.com or ubuntuforums
[01:01] <Guest93654> Okay.
[01:01] <energizer> especially askubuntu.com
[01:02] <OerHeks> ?? this is a perfect channel to ask
[01:02] <energizer> and post all the system information you can think of
[01:03] <energizer> sure, just if guest is having trouble getting answers at the moment, s/he can try another place that's been helpful to me in the past
[01:05] <OerHeks> well, about workspaces, systemsettings > behaviour > enable workspaces
[01:05] <energizer> OerHeks: just found it, thanks. i thought that was gonna solve my issue but it actually didn't. i'll ask that question instead:
[01:07] <energizer> I have monitors at different resolutions. Using compiz, I send a full-screen window from the hi-dpi monitor to the other one, and it goes there, then seems to think its too big for where it landed, and pops back to full screen on the hi-dpi monitor where it started.
[01:15] <energizer> In fact, if I drag a window from the hi-res monitor to the other one, and try to full-screen it over there, it pops to fullscreen on the hires monitor
[01:25] <energizer> Ok, found the answer: compiz has a feature called maximumize that saves the day
[01:32] <veep> hello
[01:33] <energizer> Super+m launches the unity search "Search music". How can I disable this?
[01:41] <jared> hi
[02:08] <mrmystery> Can anyone help me with this problem? I tried looking up on internet but I didn't get any valid answers. I am getting this error while connecting to IRC network IRCHighWay Error : "* Connection failed (unable to verify the first certificate.?)"
[02:13] <logical> Anyone knows how I can download a whole youtube playlist (not just one video) with some kind of software?
[02:14] <mrmystery> I don't think there is any software for that
[02:14] <tsquar3d> logical: VLC, maybe?
[02:14] <bazhang> logical, not really, get the browser plugin, start one, then the next, you dont need to wait between
[02:15] <logical> Ugh In this playlist I have like 80+ videos and I want to download them, going from one to another is pain in the a.. can it be done with youtube-dl?
[02:15] <logical> You can download youtube with vlc??
[02:16] <tsquar3d> I dunno. Maybe there's some plugin for it. -_oO_-
[02:17] <bazhang> logical, pretty much the browser plugin, every video has mulitple formats and resolutions to pick from
[02:18] <bazhang> 80 could be done in around ten minutes, tops
[02:18] <logical> yea i have a great ff addon that lets me download instantly any format but doesnt give me an option to download a playlist
[02:19] <bazhang> there is not such an option logical , and if you cannot spare a ten minute time period to get those eighty
[02:19] <amincd> Hi, I've created a bootable Clonezilla USB drive. It works on two of my computers, but not my new laptop. It simply doesn't appear in the list of Boot options. There's a 'USB' option, but there's no 'HDD' in the name, like there is in the BIOS of the other two computers, which I assume means the new machine is not recognizing the USB as a boot drive. Any suggestions on how to go about troubleshooting this?
[02:20] <bazhang> are you on dial up logical
[02:20] <Capum321> hello, a bash script with `sudo rtcwake --seconds 60 --mode disk` doesn't wake. it actually sets the time to wake up to 3 hours from the moment i ran the script?
[02:20] <WhiteMonkey> guys need help
[02:20] <bazhang> then ask the channel WhiteMonkey
[02:22] <WhiteMonkey> thanks bazhang. Is there anyway to use photoshop in ubuntu
[02:22] <WhiteMonkey> i badly need it man
[02:22] <WhiteMonkey> come on
[02:22] <WhiteMonkey> wine doesnt work properly
[02:22] <bazhang> ask in #winehq WhiteMonkey
[02:22] <Capum321> use gimp
[02:22] <bazhang> WhiteMonkey, there is no linux version of it
[02:23] <WhiteMonkey> oh gimp come on what version dude lol
[02:23] <logical> amincd on the bootup can you press the button (f2, f12 depends on your laptop) to choose from what to bootup and does it give you an option for a usb
[02:23] <energizer> WhiteMonkey: i have used photoshop cs8 in ubuntu on wine
[02:23] <bazhang> so check #winehq or use something else
[02:23] <energizer> or get a windows vm
[02:23] <WhiteMonkey> really energizer, is it working properly?
[02:24] <WhiteMonkey> yes thanks bazhang
[02:24] <WhiteMonkey> i mean the cs8
[02:24] <energizer> WhiteMonkey: it's been about a year or so, but iirc, a couple things were broken
[02:24] <energizer> like filter > liquify didnt work
[02:25] <energizer> and the menu fonts took some tweaking to be legible
[02:25] <bazhang> !appdb | WhiteMonkey check here first
[02:25] <amincd> logical: yes I press F2, go into the BIOS, select the boot menu, and it gives me several options, and one option is the USB drive. I make it the top one, but Clonezilla doesn't start. I assume it's because it's not recognizing the USB drive as being bootable, considering there is no "HDD" in the name that appears in the boot menu like there is when I do the same steps with the other two computers.
[02:25] <WhiteMonkey> ooohh thanks guys!
[02:25] <amincd> It simply gives the USB's manufacturer
[02:26] <logical> amincd if it gives the usb manufacturer as a boot option than thats it
[02:26] <energizer> WhiteMonkey: also i think there's something called like portable photoshop or something that might be useful
[02:27] <logical> also what type of laptop do you have
[02:27] <amincd> logical: any idea why the program Clonezilla won't start?
[02:27] <WhiteMonkey> yeah i have tried the portable already
[02:27] <WhiteMonkey> it didnt work lol
[02:28] <amincd> asus 501jw
[02:28] <WhiteMonkey> thanks energizer
[02:28] <WhiteMonkey> haha
[02:28] <WhiteMonkey> i owe you dude
[02:28] <logical> does it come with uefi ?
[02:29] <energizer> good luck
[02:29] <amincd> ux501jw
[02:30] <amincd> logical: it has Secure Boot, so I assume so?
[02:30] <amincd> I disabled secure boot, but didn't fix it
[02:30] <logical> If your machine comes with uEFI secure boot enabled, you have to use AMD64 version of alternative (Ubuntu-based) Clonezilla live.
[02:30] <WhiteMonkey> any idea about Mr. Robot haha
[02:30] <amincd> reading this: http://www.tomsguide.com/forum/86522-35-asus-x501a-bootable-drive#7835945 going to try the suggestion
[02:31] <amincd> logical: thanks, I assume it's this: http://clonezilla.org/downloads/download.php?branch=alternative
[02:32] <logical> yes, i hope it works out for you
[02:32] <logical> dont know why you need it for that laptop tho
[02:39] <polarbear> hello
[02:41] <maciej> hi, polarbear
[02:41] <polarbear> anyone know of a fix with bluetooth headset, when i switch on headset it links up connects, defaults to a2dp sink however i have no sound, then have to switch between the two modes and back to a2dp then works, so its comming close to working but just wondered if anyone has fixed it?
[02:42] <maciej> i don't know i'm newbee
[02:42] <polarbear> oh ok cool
[02:43] <amincd> logical: working! The solution was "Enabled CSM (Compatibility Support Module)"
[02:43] <logical> amincd glad it works :D
[03:00] <energizer> Is it possible to change the scaling of a window while it's open?
[03:01] <lordcirth> energizer, what do you mean by scaling?
[03:01] <logical> For those who didnt know how to help me with how to download a whole youtube playlist, the youtube-dl gives you that option, just open the terminal in the folder you want and type youtube-dl Playlistlink (you can also add -f NUMBER for specific format)
[03:02] <lordcirth> logical, youtube-dl is great.  Unfortunately I wasn't on earlier.
[03:03] <energizer> lordcirth: I'll explain my issue:  'Scale windows to display with largest controls' in Displays, makes everything the same scale, but that means that on my lower-res monitor everything is way too big, and if i pick '...smallest controls', everything on the hi-res monitor is way too small.
[03:04] <lordcirth> energizer, oh, DPI.
[03:04] <energizer> So i was thinking i could just write something that notices if a window is on a display and does GDK_DPI_SCALE=0.5 to it
[03:05] <lordcirth> I'm not aware of a way once it's launched.
[03:05] <energizer> lordcirth: the thing that makes me think its possible is that using that menu in Displays does modify existing windows, the only issue being it does it to all of them
[03:06] <lordcirth> energizer, oh it does?  Yes I suppose that's promising.
[03:07] <lordcirth> energizer, can you launch different windows with different DPIs at the same time?  If so it should be possible.
[03:08] <pavlushka> my lan port got hung on Xubuntu 16.04.1 64 bit, on a backup connection now. is there any way to restart it without restarting the system?
[03:09] <lordcirth> pavlushka, systemctl restart networkmanager
[03:10] <egc> hi all
[03:10] <energizer> lordcirth: i think you can
[03:11] <egc> when building the linux kernel, in the top level makefile, there is a variable named "Name".  Is there way to print this value for the running kernel?
[03:11] <egc> it appears after EXTRAVERSION in the Makefile
[03:15] <Guest58494> hello
[03:16] <ipgd> Greetings :D
[03:16] <OerHeks> egc, not sure those bytes appear, i know this list https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Linux_kernel_names
[03:17] <OerHeks> *appear in the compiled version
[03:17] <egc> Thanks, OerHeks
[03:17] <energizer> lordcirth: ya you can http://superuser.com/questions/950794/per-application-window-scaling-in-xorg-for-high-dpi-display
[03:18] <egc> OerHeks: the kernel I built is named "Blurry Fish Butt"
[03:18] <egc> and i was wondering if i can get that to print from the bash prompt somehow
[03:18] <OerHeks> egc, does it proper scaling on 2nd monitor?
[03:19] <TheNH813> Is it safe to delete everything in .cache?
[03:19] <TheNH813> I'm assuming yes, and I have a backup,  but I was just wondeirng.
[03:20] <TheNH813> Because it's over 10G, and Nautilus is bugging out. It's either bad settings or a mangled cache.
[03:20] <TheNH813> Anyone knwo how to fix the search bar? It dosen't automatically select files when I start typing words
[03:22] <TheNH813> Well, I'l find out after I reboot.
[03:22] <OerHeks> du -sm ~/.cache/*  # this shows what you can remove safely
[03:24] <_unreal_> is there some big event tonight, every chan I'm in is dead
[03:24] <TheNH813> Well, that didn't fix it. But it certainly improved login speed.
[03:24] <TheNH813> Well, I'm here.
[03:25] <_unreal_> heh
[03:25] <TheNH813> Say, would you know how to fix Nautilus when it dosen't search as you type? You know, where it selects a file when you start typing it's name? I seem to have disabled it.
[03:26] <TheNH813> And deleting .cache only improved login times. Deleting Nautilus's config did nothing. Please tell me it's not in GConf.
[03:27] <YankDownUnder> gconf = dconf => You can use "dconf-editor" to directly edit the "conf" in a GUI format (like the old "gconf-editor")
[03:28] <TheNH813> Thanks for that. I'l see if there's settings key relating to search settings.
[03:29] <_unreal_> not sure
[03:29] <_unreal_> oh this is driving me crazy, I want to pop my part out of the mold
[03:30] <TheNH813> Woah, there's LOTS of settings for Nautilus in dconf-editor. I was wondering where all the settings were stored.
[03:32] <_unreal_> TheNH813, are you talking active search when your in GUI? or in cli
[03:32] <TheNH813> GUI. Dconf-editor. Trying to reenable search as you start typing.
[03:33] <YankDownUnder> TheNH813: If you cannot find it, bear in mind that the "Gnome" project tends to either add or remove things "on the fly" - most of which contradict the ideology of "personalisation"
[03:34] <TheNH813> YankDownUnder: Ah, ok. I'l keep it in mind.
[03:34] <YankDownUnder> TheNH813: This has been a "sore point" in the entire Gnome project for years - hence the creation of "Mate" and "Cinnamon"...hmm...
[03:36] <TheNH813> Well, I found an option that opens the search bar as soon as a letter is pressed. But, I'l keep looking to see if I can enable selecting files by typing or if it was removed.
[03:36] <TheNH813> Or just switch file managers
[03:36] <TheNH813> But I prefer the look of Nautilus.
[03:37] <YankDownUnder> TheNH813: There are man "file manglers" available...after several years, I've ended up with "SpaceFM" as it's a great overall tool that has the options from years ago that appear to no longer be "in the fad" as it were...but, as with coffee - we all like something different...
[03:38] <TheNH813> "org.gnome.nautilus.preferences: Enable interactive (type-ahead) search. If set to true, enables interactive search, similar to Nautilus 3.4."
[03:38] <TheNH813> That sounds quite similar.
[03:38] <TheNH813> Hm... maybe I'l go with Thunar or SpaceFM.
[03:39] <Prasad> hello
[03:39] <TheNH813> Hello.
[03:40] <Prasad> i am trying to install snappy core on my rasberry pi 3 model b
[03:40] <Prasad> but for some reason it is not booting
[03:40] <Prasad> i checked everything
[03:40] <Prasad> the memory is also in FAT 32 format
[03:41] <Prasad> can someone help me to figure out this
[03:41] <TheNH813> First things, a quick sanity check. Right architexure? Bootloader configured right? Blacklisted/added necessary drivers? Using a native filesystem (EXT, etc)?
[03:41] <TheNH813> Live or hard install?
[03:41] <Prasad> hard install
[03:41] <Prasad> i got image
[03:41] <Prasad> ive loaded to my SD card
[03:42] <TheNH813> Did you overwrite the SD card with the image correctly?
[03:42] <Prasad> yes
[03:42] <Prasad> i used win32
[03:42] <TheNH813> So, the drive contains a Linux filesystem, and you can confirm the files exist?
[03:42] <Prasad> yes
[03:42] <Prasad> i can see all the files
[03:42] <TheNH813> Ah, ok. That shouldn't matter as the entire card gets reformatted during image writing.
[03:43] <Prasad> after writing to the SD card
[03:43] <TheNH813> Is the bootloader installed? Have you tried reinstalling it?
[03:43] <Prasad> yes
[03:43] <Prasad> i did it multiple times
[03:43] <TheNH813> Any errors, or just black screen?
[03:43] <Prasad> i used different SD card as well
[03:43] <Prasad> just black screen
[03:44] <TheNH813> Hm...... what are the boot parameters?
[03:45] <Prasad> i cant see anything
[03:45] <Prasad> just turned on my rbp
[03:45] <TheNH813> Can you pull the card out, and check what in the bootloader config file?
[03:45] <Prasad> a green light is blinking in a specific format
[03:45] <TheNH813> What kind of format?
[03:45] <Prasad> fat 32
[03:46] <TheNH813> No, you said the green light was blinking in a certain way. What do you mean by that?
[03:46] <Prasad> it is blinking like 1 1 1 1111
[03:46] <Prasad> 1 indicates glow
[03:47] <TheNH813> So, three blinks and four shorter blinks?
[03:47] <Prasad> yes
[03:48] <pavlushka> lordcirth: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23130772/
[03:48] <TheNH813> That is the SD card activity LED, if I remember right.
[03:48] <Prasad> yes
[03:48] <Prasad> the lights should not blink
[03:48] <TheNH813> That appears it's trying to boot from the card, and keeps retrying, causing a specific pattern.
[03:49] <Prasad> unless there is some issue the green LED wont blink
[03:49] <lordcirth> pavlushka, network-manager
[03:49] <TheNH813> Have you tried manually DDing the image?
[03:49] <TheNH813> From a Linux machine?
[03:49] <Prasad> no
[03:49] <TheNH813> That could possibly work. Find a raw image (not compressed), and try writing it with DD on Linux/ or DD for Windows.
[03:50] <TheNH813> IT's obviously not being able to read the boot secotr\
[03:50] <TheNH813> *Sector
[03:50] <Prasad> but i cant use it on my rasberry pi
[03:50] <TheNH813> You do you have a working PC, right?
[03:50] <TheNH813> What OS?
[03:50] <Prasad> yes
[03:50] <Prasad> i am having multiple OS
[03:51] <TheNH813> Let me check some information. I'm be back in a minute.
[03:51] <Prasad> i tried using windows, ubuntu
[03:51] <Prasad> okay
[03:51] <OerHeks> the software on this computer is uptodate.
[03:51] <Prasad> yes
[03:52] <TheNH813> An official response from March states something along the lines of "As of this time, the rpi3 is not supported by Snappy. Canonical engineers are working of hardware support".
[03:53] <TheNH813> I'l check if it's changed
[03:53] <ahoneybun> !help
[03:53] <Prasad> okay
[03:53] <ahoneybun> mm
[03:53] <Prasad> i think i did not check that out
[03:53] <ahoneybun> !indonesia
[03:53] <TheNH813> Prasad: ARe you running x64 or x32?
[03:54] <TheNH813> The x32 version supposedly has experimental support.
[03:54] <Prasad> x64
[03:54] <TheNH813> Try the x32 version.
[03:54] <Prasad> okay
[03:54] <Prasad> i will give a try
[03:54] <Prasad> can i use ubuntu mate
[03:54] <Prasad> and gate snappy core using that
[03:55] <TheNH813> Do you mean download mate from snappy core?
[03:55] <TheNH813> Er I mean download snappy core form mate
[03:55] <Prasad> yes
[03:55] <Prasad> downloading snappy core frm mate
[03:55] <TheNH813> Hm... I not sure.
[03:55] <VectorX> hi in ubuntu 16 server, when you are in the console. is it possible to add a background image instead of having the black terminal
[03:56] <TheNH813> Vectorx: Depends if GUI terminal or text mode.
[03:56] <TheNH813> Text mode, no,, GUI mode, yes
[03:56] <Prasad> Thank you very much guys
[03:56] <Prasad> have a good one
[03:56] <VectorX> TheNH813 gui
[03:57] <c_nick> I cropped an image using Shotwell when i open the library i can see the cropped image but when i see the actual folder the the original images which were cropped are present not the cropped one.
[03:57] <TheNH813> What terminal are you using (xterm, gnome-terminal, etc)?
[03:57] <VectorX> TheNH813 i mean its in gfx mode, there is no desktop
[03:57] <TheNH813> Oh, just fullscreen terminal?
[03:57] <TheNH813> Le\t me check my sources.
[03:57] <VectorX> its plain ubuntu 16 server console, yes
[03:57] <VectorX> ask your dealer too
[03:58] <pavlushka> lordcirth: my bad, it worked this time but did not affected the lan port, its light is flashing even after I removed the UTP cable from it physically, may be need a restart.
[03:58] <lordcirth> pavlushka, that could be.
[03:58] <TheNH813> VectorX: There's a way to do that.
[03:59] <TheNH813> VectorX: Basically, change the terminal application to one that supports background images.
[03:59] <TheNH813> There's a config file oyu can edit
[03:59] <VectorX> do you have a guide i can follow
[04:00] <c_nick> I cropped an image using Shotwell when i open the library i can see the cropped image but when i see the actual folder the the original images which were cropped are present not the cropped one.
[04:00] <TheNH813> http://askubuntu.com/questions/278863/how-do-i-set-up-a-background-image-for-console-in-ubuntu
[04:00] <TheNH813> I think that may b e it, but I'l search for abetter guide
[04:00] <VectorX> thanks
[04:01] <TheNH813> That should work for both non-gui and gui mode. But the answer is from late 2015 so take it with a grain of salt
[04:02] <VectorX> i think we are out of salt
[04:02] <TheNH813> XD
[04:02] <TheNH813> Theoretically, you should be able to replace the terminal with one that supports images. Let me know if you need more help
[04:04] <fermulator__> there are improvements to be made to this wiki; why is it immutable? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM/FAQ#How_to_convert_VirtualBox_machines_to_virt-manager.3F
[04:04] <superglue> GLUE ALL THE STOLEN PROPERTY TO A NIGGER
[04:04] <superglue> USE SUPER GLUE
[04:04] <superglue> THE NIGGER GOES TO PRISON, FOR THE LULZ CUZ THATZ WUT NIGGERZ DO!
[04:05] <superglue> oh shit
[04:05] <superglue> chu: sorry
[04:06] <VectorX> TheNH813 no that should be fine, ill try that guide you gave and if not got a better idea what to search for aswell
[04:06] <TheNH813> Yeah, if that dosen't work, just set the defautlt terminal to another one that supports images, and there you go.
[04:06] <VectorX> got it
[04:07] <TheNH813> Hope you can get tt working. Have a good one.
[04:07] <Apteryx> Can I re-enable modesetting *live* (post boot) ?
[04:08] <TheNH813> I don't know. It's maybe possible. Likely a reboot is safer.
[04:09] <Apteryx> The reason I ask is because I'm troubleshooting a gpu driver over SSH. The more I can do without rebooting the happier.
[04:09] <Apteryx> Currently the system is up and running, using "nomodeset" boot parameter, so that it didn't hang on a black screen.
[04:10] <TheNH813> If nomodeset fixed it, I'd reccommend keeping it or setting the VGA= option
[04:10] <TheNH813> The VGA=<something> option forces a resolution. It's helped me avoid nomodeset many times
[04:10] <TheNH813> But testing it still requires reboot.
[04:11] <TheNH813> I had a system that would hang at a black screen, and nomodeset fixed it , but decreased hwo well it worked. VGA= was able to set a resolution to fallback to on boot, thus fixing it.
[04:12] <TheNH813> Gotta reboot myself. See if I finally fixed that accursed Nautilus problem. Funyn thing is, it works fine as root. But nooooooooo the search when I start typing thing dosen't work as user.
[04:12] <superglue> NIGGER ALERT!  NIGGER ALERT!
[04:12] <superglue> NIGGER ALERT!  THIS IS NOT A DRILL!
[04:12] <superglue> ALL HANDS: BATTLE STATIONS! THIS IS NOT A DRILL!
[04:12] <superglue> NIGGER ALERT!  NIGGER ALERT!
[04:13] <TheNH813> Someone ban superglue.
[04:14] <kevincentius> Hi, I plugged in my microphone but it is detected as a headphone by ubuntu D: . I tried hda jack retask, now the mic shows neither as input nor output device in the Sounds. Any ideas?
[04:15] <purpleidea> i can't seem to get mp4 playback in totem working in 16.04 -- works fine in vlc though. What package/repo am I missing? I tried the common things from google.
[04:17] <TheNH813> IS there any unforseen consequence of recursivley chowning my entire home folder? I have some busted permissions in config files I think.
[04:17] <TheNH813> I'l wait for an answer to do it, but I really want to know
[04:18] <TheNH813> ...
[04:18] <TheNH813> Who was it that
[04:18] <TheNH813> was troubleshootign a server again?
[04:19] <VectorX> Apteryx
[04:19] <TheNH813> Apteryx: Here's a link for you to VGA mode options. http://wiki.antlinux.com/pmwiki.php?n=HowTos.VgaModes
[04:19] <purpleidea> TheNH813: chown is okay, chmod is not
[04:19] <purpleidea> afaik
[04:20] <TheNH813> purpleidea: Ok, thanks. I accidentally ran nautilus using my user config as root and it ruined it.
[04:20] <purpleidea> dont do that :)
[04:20] <TheNH813> Not sure how I managed it, but that did some evil damage. XDDD
[04:23] <Apteryx> TheNH813: Thanks!
[04:23] <TheNH813> Yup, just append VGA=<number> to the boot parameters. It may fix it. Especially if it's AMD or older Intel Graphics.
[04:24] <TheNH813> I used VGA=0x31B for 1280x1024 and it really helped till I got a new card.
[04:26] <Apteryx> TheNH813: Yeah, nomodeset disables any acceleration and falls back to a bare minimum driver.
[04:32] <daemon55> does anybody know a free secure vpn for ubuntu?
[04:41] <guest9108> I'm looking at how to setup a Git server. Any good articles to look at? I found Git's one, but it's shit. https://git-scm.com/book/en/v2/Git-on-the-Server-Setting-Up-the-Server
[04:44] <guzzlefry> guest9108: gitlab is the most prominent one, there's also gogs.io
[04:46] <asura> hi all
[04:47] <asura> how can i verify whonix keys
[04:47] <asura> can anyone help please
[04:51] <FaTony> hi, how can I force Ubuntu to use AMD GPU instead of Intel one?
[04:53] <guest9108> asura, what are "whonix key"?
[04:56] <_unreal_> FaTony, are you trying to switch which video card your using?
[04:56] <FaTony> _unreal_, yes
[04:57] <_unreal_> first of all is your bios setup to select which video card you want to use?
[04:57] <FaTony> _unreal_, lemme see
[04:58] <_unreal_> FaTony, norm. to switch between 2 video cards in one computer, one uses the bios to select which video card to use. and linux will do the rest automaticly.
[04:59] <FaTony> _unreal_, I don't have a switch in the BIOS at all
[04:59] <_unreal_> if your switching video cards however you may need to do some software adjustments or it may just auto detect the change and adjust the software anyways
[04:59] <_unreal_> FaTony, do you have an onboard video card and an added in expansion card video card?
[05:00] <FaTony> _unreal_, it's a laptop which came with Ubuntu 12.04 and fglrx, I've removed fglrx and urgraded to Ubuntu 16.04
[05:00] <_unreal_> fglrx is for AMD video cards
[05:01] <FaTony> yes, so I want to use AMD card and not integrated Intel one
[05:01] <_unreal_> dude laptops do not have dual video cards
[05:01] <_unreal_> unless its SLI
[05:02] <daemon55> i need help i just cant seem to delete this folder
[05:02] <Joral> _unreal_, even an sli laptop would have two identical cards and not one intel and one amd
[05:02] <_unreal_> daemon55, most likely permissions
[05:02] <FaTony> _unreal_, Intel is in the CPU and AMD is discrete
[05:02] <_unreal_> daemon55, ls -al /path of folder
[05:03] <daemon55> what does that do?
[05:03] <FaTony> all modern Intel CPUs have GPUs inside them
[05:03] <Joral> FaTony, run 'lspci -k' and tell me what driver it says its using for the graphics card
[05:03] <_unreal_> daemon55, are you trying to delete the folder from gui or cli
[05:03] <daemon55> gui
[05:03] <FaTony> Joral, i915
[05:03] <_unreal_> daemon55, that may be your issue
[05:04] <_unreal_> lol FaTony i915 is intel
[05:04] <daemon55> how do i solve it
[05:04] <asura> ;/part
[05:04] <FaTony> I know
[05:04] <_unreal_> daemon55, open up a console
[05:04] <_unreal_> if you dont have one already
[05:04] <Joral> FaTony, what is the brand and model of the laptop?
[05:05] <daemon55> ok
[05:05] <_unreal_> daemon55, go to the folder that the folder your trying to remove is in
[05:05] <_unreal_> and do an "ls -al"
[05:05] <_unreal_> minus the " " marks
[05:06] <_unreal_> or do an: ls -al |pastebinit
[05:06] <_unreal_> and give the link here
[05:06] <_unreal_> Joral, $5 says theres no amd gpu
[05:06] <daemon55> you mean using cd?
[05:06] <FaTony> Joral, Dell Inspiron 3537
[05:06] <_unreal_> daemon55, lol no
[05:06] <_unreal_> daemon55, are you using ubuntu or windows
[05:06] <daemon55> ubuntu
[05:07] <_unreal_> CD is for dos
[05:07] <_unreal_> err
[05:07] <_unreal_> sorry dir
[05:07] <_unreal_> wow I'm tired
[05:07] <daemon55> oh sorry
[05:07] <_unreal_> yes cd into the sub folder of the folder you want to remove
[05:08] <FaTony> _unreal_, lspci says I have Radeon HD 6780M
[05:08] <ricardo> hi whats up
[05:08] <daemon55> what then
[05:08] <_unreal_> FaTony, you just said i915
[05:08] <Joral> _unreal_, http://cdn.cnetcontent.com/42/5b/425b71ad-7959-450b-9cca-42345ee456e2.pdf
[05:09] <Joral> wouldn't have believed it if I hadn't seen it myself
[05:09] <_unreal_> daemon55, are you at the folder area?
[05:09] <Joral> FaTony, can you pastebin the output of lspci -k for me to see?
[05:09] <_unreal_> if so throw in the command
[05:10] <Bashing-om> FaTony: Show the channel in a paste bin the output of terminal command : ' lspci -vnn | grep VGA -A 12 ' so we know what hardware you have .
[05:11] <Joral> Bashing-om, thank you for cleaning that up for me
[05:11] <_unreal_> daemon55, and?
[05:11] <FaTony> Joral, Bashing-om, https://paste.debian.net/806687
[05:12] <_unreal_> daemon55, Ineed to go to bed soon, it is 1am and my 7yo will be all over me in the morning. what is the output?
[05:12] <OerHeks> that HD 6780M is not going to use the amdgpu driver, open radeon only
[05:13] <_unreal_> lol
[05:13] <FaTony> I'm pretty sure I have radeon driver installed
[05:13] <OerHeks> FaTony, then be happy with it
[05:14] <Joral> FaTony, so the amd card isn't being detected, this either means that it is disabled in bios or if this is one of the removable laptop gpus there may be an issue with a loose connection on the card
[05:14] <FaTony> eh? Games say I use Intel, I want to use AMD
[05:14] <_unreal_> or its not even in and its just an option
[05:14] <FaTony> it's in that paste: 03:00.0 Display controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Sun XT [Radeon HD 8670A/8670M/8690M / R5 M330]
[05:15] <FaTony> and I run games on it using fglrx
[05:15] <daemon55> does anybody know a free secure vpn?
[05:15] <FaTony> ran*
[05:16] <_unreal_> dmesg |grep agp
[05:16] <_unreal_> daemon55, I thought you wanted to remove a folder?
[05:16] <Bashing-om> !switcheroo
[05:16] <Joral> missed that, so it is, I am not familiar enough to clear up the settings for him so I defer to the expertise of others
[05:16] <OerHeks> daemon55, free vpn and secure vpn bite, also this is ubuntu support only
[05:17] <_unreal_> daemon55, are you still trying to delete a folder or not?
[05:17] <FaTony> _unreal_, Linux agpgart interface v0.103
[05:17] <daemon55> no
[05:17] <daemon55> rm did the trick
[05:17] <_unreal_> FaTony, ? interesting
[05:17] <_unreal_> daemon55, good
[05:18] <daemon55> i dont know how but its gone
[05:18] <_unreal_> daemon55, carful you can kill a lot with RM
[05:18] <daemon55> unreal: do you know a good vpn channel
[05:18] <_unreal_> daemon55, are you using xchat?
[05:18] <Bashing-om> FaTony: Confirmed hybrid graphics at play here . again what release are you on ?
[05:18] <daemon55> no xchat is proprietary hexchat
[05:19] <FaTony> Bashing-om, Ubuntu 16.04
[05:19] <TheNH813> _unreal_: One must always be careful with RM. With great power comes good responsibility.
[05:19] <_unreal_> ok look for channel list download the channel listing and you may find a vpn channel
[05:19] <OerHeks> lolz, xchat proprietary hexchat.. ??? xchat is dead, hexchat is an active clone.
[05:19] <TheNH813> I still remember my first RM mistake.
[05:19] <_unreal_> TheNH813, My fave. is :rm *
[05:19] <TheNH813> XD
[05:20] <daemon55> oh i thought xhcat was still in the big picture
[05:20] <FaTony> the first GNU/Linux command I've learned was rm -rf /
[05:20] <daemon55> woops
[05:20] <Bashing-om> FaTony: K; be aware there is no proprietary ATI driver in 16.04 . Lemme see what I can find to enable graphic's switching .
[05:21] <FaTony> Bashing-om, I don't want to use proprietary driver, I removed it a while ago
[05:21] <daemon55> i had it on windows 7 and it said i had to pay to use it
[05:21] <TheNH813> FaTony: My mistake was to do that to a system I was gonna wipe anyway out of curiosity without unplugging the clone drive. Woops.
[05:21] <daemon55> so i chose hexchat cause its free
[05:21] <daemon55> its open source
[05:21] <_unreal_> no no an even better one : rm -Rf /path/*.jpg                                        only to find that it deleted everything in the folder becuase there was no space between the / and *
[05:21] <daemon55> unreal: i though it was your bed time
[05:22] <daemon55> why are you still up
[05:22] <TheNH813> So for regular backups using the Ubuntu backup program or my personal favorite: Rsync.
[05:22] <_unreal_> it is
[05:22] <daemon55> go to bed
[05:22] <_unreal_> because I'm tired as hell and people neeed help
[05:22] <FaTony> I've coded my own backup program
[05:22] <TheNH813> Or just be lazy and "cp -rfvn ~/ /media/admin/Backup"
[05:23] <daemon55> unreal: no your becoming a night owl now
[05:23] <_unreal_> what a hoot
[05:23] <_unreal_> killing me I want to hatch my part for my big quadcopter Im building
[05:23] <_unreal_> just infused the shell tonight
[05:24] <_unreal_> errr yesterday morning now
[05:24] <_unreal_> dmesg |grep agp
[05:25] <_unreal_> https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B3vL4RqyNgQAQ29zSkpJRUZ6ZkE
[05:25] <_unreal_> https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B3vL4RqyNgQAbnRFZk5VSnNMZ00
[05:26] <_unreal_> my other laptop I need to get the cleanflight for ubuntu installed
[05:27] <TheNH813> I'm seriously still puzzled by the Nautilus bug. Dosen't happen in guest account or as root. Dosen't happen as new user account. Might just backup my home folder, and revert it to the same as a new account.
[05:27] <TheNH813> Is there a list of files copied to a new account?
[05:27] <_unreal_> TheNH813, think its a permission issue?
[05:27] <_unreal_> group list issue?
[05:27] <TheNH813> Possibly. I tried chowing the entire config folder.
[05:28] <TheNH813> I used the type to start selecting files feature quite heavily.
[05:28] <_unreal_> oh well time to go to bed, any of you guys look at the links? I built that mold btw
[05:29] <TheNH813> Looks quite nice, and have a good night.
[05:29] <_unreal_> 760mm quad, the props alone are 13" each
[05:30] <TheNH813> That's huge. Hope it works out good.
[05:30] <TheNH813> I also hope I can fix this bug. :P
[05:30] <TheNH813> (or at least I CONSIDER it a bug for now)
[05:32] <Bashing-om> FaTony: There is no proprietary driver for 16.04 / rhat is not in the picture / what we want however is a means to swirch between the Intel and ATI hardware . What returns ' sudo grep -i switcheroo /boot/config-* ' ?
[05:35] <FaTony> Bashing-om, CONFIG_VGA_SWITCHEROO=y
[05:36] <Bashing-om> FaTony: Then should be doable. See: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HybridGraphics .
[05:58] <user____2> hey guys, is there a way to customize ubuntu to for example at x time it would open my mail or play music or that kind of thing?
[06:01] <Blankspace> Hi
[06:01] <Dreaman> how to upgreat to 16.10
[06:01] <heaven> so quiet in most IRC
[06:01] <Dreaman> this
[06:02] <heaven> sudo apt upgrade
[06:02] <heaven> update
[06:02] <FaTony> Bashing-om, I'm getting permission denied during "sudo echo ON > /sys/kernel/debug/vgaswitcheroo/switch", I've cjhecked and root has "read and write" access to this file
[06:02] <Bashing-om> !cron | user____2
[06:02] <Dreaman> heaven funy
[06:02] <Dreaman> :)
[06:02] <Dreaman> but not work
[06:02] <user____2> tyvm man
[06:03] <user____2> man i love the ubuntu community u guys rock
[06:03] <Dreaman> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23131143/
[06:03] <Dreaman> :)
[06:03] <siva_machina> at this point you probably can have systemd do that also
[06:03] <siva_machina> xD
[06:03] <heaven> Dreaman, Launch the Software Updater (Find it on your Dashboard)
[06:03] <heaven> Select the tab called "Updates". Then set the "Notify me of a new Ubuntu version" dropdown menu to "For any new version". Press Alt+F2 and type in "update-manager" (without the quotes) into the command box. The Update Manager should open up and tell you that a new distribution is available. Click Upgrade and follow the on-screen instructions."
[06:03] <Bashing-om> FaTony: ' ls -al /sys/kernel/debug/vgaswitcheroo/switch ' does the file exist amd with the proper permissions ?
[06:04] <heaven> quick, someone, a link to download something you think should be shared
[06:04] <Dreaman> heaven my ubuntu is update i use to upgreat beta alpha 16.10
[06:04] <FaTony> Bashing-om, -rw-r--r-- root
[06:04] <TheNH813> Test
[06:04] <TheNH813_> Test
[06:05] -heaven:#ubuntu- test
[06:06] <Bashing-om> FaTony: Yeah strange . I too think it should work . lemme see what I can come up with .
[06:06] <TheNH813_> Finally got the desktop client to work instead of KiwiIRC. Dumb router settings. Now I don't have to launch my browser to be on here. XD
[06:07] <FaTony> Bashing-om, oh, I used "sudo su" and it worked
[06:08] <max__> hi
[06:09] <polarbear> hello
[06:10] <morabito> ls
[06:10] <morabito> ls
[06:10] <Bashing-om> FaTony: Reading further down " To have permanent write permissions to the switch file, add the following line, replacing USERNAME with your username, to /etc/init.d/rc.local: " .
[06:11] <steven_> a command to find all files that matches the line " My machine " and replace it with " Your  machine " in all those files. any help guys?
[06:12] <steven_> in ubuntu linux
[06:12] <EriC^^> steven_: sed -i 's/My machine/ Your machine/g' *
[06:13] <EriC^^> you need it recursive? (goes into the subdirs too)
[06:13] <EriC^^> steven_: typo, sed -i 's/My machine/Your machine/g' *
 lemme try, thanks in advance :)
[06:14] <kmofukka> I need someone experienced with netfilter
[06:19] <FaTony> Bashing-om, hmm the echo works but DIS is always DynOff no matter what I echo into it, searching the Internet
[06:22] <vimal2012> Could not find gegl in PATH http://paste.ubuntu.com/23131178/
[06:26] <steven_>  a command to find all files that matches the line " My machine " and replace it with " Your machine " in all those files in ubuntu linux
[06:27] <EriC^^> steven_: it didn't work?
[06:27] <steven_> it doesnt find the files
[06:28] <EriC^^> steven_: the My machine is in the text itself or the filename?
[06:28] <EriC^^> are the spaces literal?
[06:28] <EriC^^> " My machine " or "My machine" ?
[06:29] <steven_> its the lines
[06:29] <EriC^^> the sed command should work, but won't list the files
[06:29] <steven_> " My machine "
[06:29] <EriC^^> it's changed them though
[06:30] <steven_> i fused withe the find command
[06:30] <steven_> then too no hope
[06:30] <Ben64> well theres your problem
[06:30] <EriC^^> steven_: it doesn't need the find command
[06:30] <EriC^^> if you ran it already then it changed them, grep "Your machine" * will list the files
[06:31] <Bashing-om> FaTony: Sorry, I have never used 'switcheroo' , so I do not know what to expect .
[06:31] <steven_> steven@sage10:~$ sed -i 's/My machine/Your machine/g' * sed: couldn't edit Desktop: not a regular file
[06:31] <EriC^^> with find it would be "find -type f -exec sed 's/My machine/Your machine/g' {} \; "
[06:31] <EriC^^> actually nevermind
[06:31] <marcisb> Linux is my nightmarew
[06:32] <marcisb> I cant confgure out web server
[06:32] <marcisb> too complex
[06:32] <Ben64> marcisb: it isn't
[06:32] <marcisb> I need install appache php mysql
[06:32] <EriC^^> steven_: are there still files that have my machine? try grep "My machine" *
[06:33] <marcisb> How to install KDE plasma desktop?
[06:33] <Ben64> sudo apt-get install plasma-desktop
[06:34] <Blue1> yup
[06:34] <EriC^^> !lamp | marcisb
[06:34] <EriC^^> marcisb: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[06:35] <steven_> i just have a file which i created using vim , i have texts My machine in that, soo i have to replace it with Your machine, but this is just to check, is it possible to find the files that contains My machine and replace it with your machine
[06:36] <EriC^^> steven_: yes it's possible
[06:37] <steven_> what might be a command for that
[06:37] <EriC^^> the sed command will change it, if you give it a file extension it won't complain about the dirs
[06:37] <EriC^^> sed -i 's/My machine/Your machine/g' *.txt
[06:38] <EriC^^> or find -type f -exec sed -i 's/My machine/Your machine/g' {} \;
[06:38] <EriC^^> the find one is recursive and won't complain about the dirs
[06:38] <EriC^^> (it goes into the subdirs too)
[06:41] <roguemedic> new to ubuntu
[06:42] <energizer> Is it possible to plug in a drive while the computer is running?
[06:42] <Guest32911> what do you mean by plug in
[06:42] <Guest32911> via what
[06:42] <energizer> sata
[06:42] <FaTony> Bashing-om, hmm, apparently I don't need switcheroo, I just need to set DRI_PRIME=1 before starting the game anf it works
[06:43] <FaTony> and*
[06:44] <Guest32911> you can use a sata -> usb mount
[06:44] <Guest32911> what are you trying to do
[06:44] <Guest32911> just read from it?
[06:45] <energizer> yes
[06:45] <energizer> what do you mean sata to usb mount
[06:46] <Guest32911> there's a mount you can buy that you put your sata drive in and it has a usb cable that connects to it
[06:46] <ducasse> energizer: if you have a controller that can handle hotplugging, then you can just connect it.
[06:46] <Guest32911> ^^ or that
[06:46] <energizer> i have a case that sorta looks like it could handle it, it's got sweet handles and sliders for pulling out and putting in drives
[06:47] <energizer> but i dont see where the drive is appearing
[06:47] <energizer> if it is
[06:47] <Conna> hello linux users
[06:47] <Guest32911> what OS are you running
[06:47] <Conna> kali linux
[06:47] <Guest32911> sorry (energizer)
[06:47] <Conna> ooh ok
[06:48] <Guest32911> :)
[06:49] <energizer> ducasse: where would i see it if it was working
[06:49] <Bashing-om> FaTony: DRI_PRIME=1 is a new one on me .. where did you find it ? and how is it used ?
[06:50] <Guest32911> energizer: I think you can use dmesg to see any hardware changes
[06:52] <energizer> when I plug it in , nothing changes in dmesg
[06:52] <Dreaman> Conna why not use real debian
[06:53] <ducasse> energizer: you might have bios settings to switch hotplugging on/off, mine has. unless you know your controller i can handle it, i wouldn't just try - it could be harmful.
 thanks :)
[06:53] <EriC^^> steven_: no problem :)
[06:54] <TheNH813> Question, how to I get unbanned? One of the channels I was on just kicked me due to my internet causing about 10 successive reconnections.
[06:55] <TheNH813> Sorry for the spam if anyone saw that a bit back
[06:55] <TheNH813> Who sets up a bot to ban people for that? DX
[06:55] <OerHeks> TheNH813, how would we know? maybe #freenode has a clue
[06:55] <ducasse> TheNH813: was it an ubuntu channel? then ask in #ubuntu-ops
[06:56] <OerHeks> unless it is an ubuntu channel ..
[06:56] <TheNH813> It was on #Arduino, I'l go ask on FreeNode then.
[06:57] <Guest32911> how long has everyone been using ubuntu? Just curious
[06:58] <TheNH813> A couple years on and off for me. Even since before I registered my name I was on here.
[06:59] <marcisb> Hello all
[06:59] <marcisb> How to install lamp on ubuntu?
[06:59] <TheNH813> Lamp?
[06:59] <marcisb> yes
[07:00] <Guest32911> I only know lamp like the light
[07:00] <OerHeks> marcisb, run tasksel > lamp, or sudo apt-get install lamp-server^
[07:00] <OerHeks> !lamp
[07:00] <Dreaman> marcisb apt-get install lamp
[07:02] <Guest32911> so basically it's just an easy way to install all 3 rather than just doing them all separate?
[07:02] <Dreaman> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP  marcisb
[07:03] <OerHeks> if one needs to ask howto install lamp, i get worried actually
[07:03] <energizer> ducasse: ya there was a bios setting, that did it, thanks
[07:05] <Stray_Dillo> What's the easiest way to make file shariing work between two Ubuntu computers?
[07:05] <Industrial> Hi!
[07:05] <Stray_Dillo> *sharing
[07:05] <Industrial> My networking is messed up :(
[07:06] <Industrial> I can connect to this ISP network of my neighbours but not on my own router. It works on all my other devices and it used to work until I updated all software
[07:06] <OerHeks> !nfs
[07:06] <OerHeks> !samba
[07:06] <Industrial> If I look at "additional drivers" then
[07:06] <Bashing-om> Stray_Dillo: Maybe : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2159449 <-easiest way to cp files 'tween two 'buntus that share the same router/house (Morbius1)
[07:07] <Surfer2010> /tmp/camd.socket   (No such file or directory); Do you have OSCam running?   <-- what does this mean?
[07:07] <Stray_Dillo> so obottu, use NFS to file share between two Ubuntu machines?
[07:07] <OerHeks> both answers are pretty easy, Stray_Dillo
[07:07] <Industrial> http://i.imgur.com/AEBt3hD.png
[07:07] <Industrial> I am trying to activate this driver
[07:07] <Industrial> it dowsnt work
[07:07] <Everybodydothefl> Hey I need some help. I have an Asus G60J Republic of Gamers Laptop. It includes the Nvidia GEFORCE GTS 36M Cuda 10B GPU chipset & I am running Linux mint xfce. I can't for the life of me figure out how to get the right drivers installed to run steam
[07:08] <Industrial> It used to beactive
[07:08] <Industrial> How do I do this from the commandline so I can see the error?
[07:08] <Everybodydothefl> or the right GPU drivers for that matter
[07:08] <OerHeks> !mint
[07:08] <OerHeks> mint has its own issues, Everybodydothefl
[07:09] <Everybodydothefl> Yeah don't I know it
[07:09] <Everybodydothefl> XD
[07:09] <Everybodydothefl> Ok I
[07:09] <Everybodydothefl> I
[07:09] <Everybodydothefl> I'll try there
[07:09] <Stray_Dillo> "apt-get install nfs-kernel-server"
[07:09] <Stray_Dillo> 'permission denied'
[07:10] <spex> did you sudo
[07:10] <Stray_Dillo> just following the instructions you provided
[07:10] <Everybodydothefl> actually I was running into the same issues with xUbuntu too, which from my understanding is still Ubuntu, just XFCE
[07:10] <stev> options to give colors to output of echo command
[07:10] <Stray_Dillo> it doesn't say sudo
[07:10] <Stray_Dillo> OK
[07:10] <Everybodydothefl> So any ideas?
[07:11] <spex> I had to trial/error with all of the drivers that ubuntu provides. Pain in the ass it was
[07:11] <stev> options to give colors to output of echo command. does anyone know ?
[07:16] <Everybodydothefl> Imma give Synaptic a try
[07:16] <marcisb> What is stored in etc folder?
[07:16] <ducasse> marcisb: configuration files
[07:22] <marcisb> ducasse: In var folder?
[07:23] <OerHeks> marcisb, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxFilesystemTreeOverview
[07:23] <viju> Hi, I cannot see mate desktop after installing it.
[07:23] <viju> help
[07:23] <viju> In the list of desktop environments at logon screen see, I can see others but not mate
[07:24] <viju> In the list of desktop environments at logon screen, I can see others but not mate
[07:27] <EriC^^> viju: which desktop manager?
[07:27] <viju> mate-desktop
[07:27] <EriC^^> lightdm gdm ?
[07:27] <EriC^^> dpkg -l | awk '$2 /dm$/'
[07:27] <viju> okay I don't really know. Are they any different?
[07:28] <EriC^^> dpkg -l | awk '$2 ~ /dm$/'
[07:28] <EriC^^> try the above in a terminal
[07:29] <viju> Nothing happens
[07:29] <viju> Says it's a wrong syntax
[07:30] <auronandace> viju: you could do: ps aux | grep lightdm
[07:30] <EriC^^> viju: the lower one
[07:31] <EriC^^> dpkg -l | awk '$2 ~ /dm$/'
[07:31] <viju> I see something
[07:31] <viju> Do you want me to paste it to you?
[07:31] <EriC^^> what does the 2nd column say?
[07:31] <EriC^^> sure
[07:32] <viju> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23131313/
[07:32] <Everybodydothefl> Ok I think I might have fixed it using driver manager & switching to the Nvidia 340 drivers instead of the Noveau drivers that were default installed
[07:33] <Everybodydothefl> need to reboot, brb
[07:35] <EriC^^> viju: ok try ls /etc/lightm , what do you see?
[07:35] <EriC^^> viju: first try sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm
[07:35] <viju> There are two files - lightdm.conf.d and user.conf
[07:36] <viju> I tried that too
[07:36] <EriC^^> viju: before or just now?
[07:36] <viju> Do I have to logoff?
[07:36] <viju> Just now
[07:37] <EriC^^> yeah try sudo service lightdm restart to log off and restar it
[07:37] <viju> EriC^^, what was --reconfigure? Is that some configuration issue?
[07:38] <viju> Hi, I did not see anything there EriC^^
[07:39] <EriC^^> viju: ok, try dpkg -l | grep mate-session-manager
[07:39] <EriC^^> does it show up with ii at the start?
[07:39] <viju> Nothing
[07:39] <EriC^^> !find mate-session-manager
[07:40] <auronandace> viju: how did you install the mate desktop?
[07:41] <viju> sudo apt-get install mate-desktop
[07:42] <auronandace> viju: i take it that is from the default repos? you didn't add any PPAs or anything?
[07:43] <viju> Does that have anything to do with gnome flashback/classic? Just giving you a headsup that I have 2 other desktop environments already.
[07:43] <viju> Yes, I didn't add any PPA.
[07:43] <viju> official repos
[07:43] <auronandace> viju: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[07:43] <viju> 16.04
[07:47] <malinus> Hello. I've got problems with my wifi usb adapter: https://wikidevi.com/wiki/D-Link_DWA-172_rev_A1 . I've isntalled rtl8812au-dkms, I insert the adapter, nothing (it doesn't load the module). Then I've inserted the module manually - nothing, the driver doesn't even recognize the device. lshw shows that indeed, no driver associated: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23131334/
[07:47] <EriC^^> viju: try tail -v -n +1 /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d/*
[07:47] <auronandace> viju: strange, whatever desktop you add from the repos should add and entry to lightdm so you can choose it (the sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm is run whenever you install a DE/WM to update the options available)
[07:47] <EriC^^> paste the output in paste.ubuntu.com
[07:49] <viju> EriC^^,  cannot open '/etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d/*' for reading: No such file or directory
[07:50] <EriC^^> odd
[07:50] <EriC^^> viju: try tail -v -n +1 /usr/share/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d/*
[07:51] <viju> EriC^^, http://paste.ubuntu.com/23131347/
[07:54] <OerHeks> malinus, maybe you encounter this bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rtl8812au/+bug/1578874
[07:56] <Arkidos> Hey, i'm looking for help with my ubunutu and docker. I'm still learning, and i installed Docker to get used to linux commands. I run a container with the bankan app "Wekan". It works, and i can access from my ubuntu machine. I would like to access it from my other computers, do i have to setup apache ? or the already existing vhost ?
[07:57] <malinus> OerHeks: how would insert the module manually if it wasn't installed? I don't think that could be the case.
[07:57] <malinus> *I
[07:58] <rexwin_> i am trying to join my ubuntu client to centos PDC. but I can't find domainjoin-cli command
[07:59] <rexwin_> sudo apt-get install likewise-open*
[07:59] <rexwin_> E: Unable to locate package likewise-open*
[07:59] <malinus> I really don't understand, how the driver completly ignores the device. I mean I've looked at the driver source, it even registered my usb vendor/product id. Still when I plug it in - nothing.
[08:06] <OerHeks> modprobe 8812au, not sure this is needed after installing the dkms
[08:08] <riqj> Hello everyone, disk utility showed that my HDD is likely to fail soon, written in red capital letters. can I somehow try to fix it?
[08:09] <malinus> OerHeks: like I've said, I've tried inserting the module manually, as you can see in the pastebin I've posted. The driver doesn't care about the device.
[08:09] <riqj> i.e. with badblocks or similar tools
[08:10] <Eraik> riqj what's the brand of the drive ?
[08:10] <OerHeks> bad block grow..
[08:11] <riqj> Eraik, it is WD
[08:12] <riqj> I mean, western digital
[08:12] <ducasse> malinus: that driver is often problematic, i had to build another version i found on github to get it working.
[08:13] <crazyman> im a large black man on PCP
[08:14] <riqj> so can I give the repair a try somehow?
[08:14] <Eraik> I know there's a tool for testing with seagate drives, that's called seatools. But that only works with seagate drives, ofc. But if your drive is reporting bad sector it would be best to migrate your data to a new drive.
[08:14] <malinus> ducasse: well so far I've tried the newest one from the vendor. It didn't work however. I guess I'll try one from github as you suggested, thanks. Do you if it even tried loading when using the default one? Or was nothing happening, like in my case?
[08:14] <ducasse> riqj: no, you can't fix it. it needs to be replaced.
[08:15] <malinus> ducasse: also, do you remember which repository you used? There are like 20 for that driver.
[08:15] <ducasse> malinus: i've had more than one problem with it :) the best version i found is this, it has worked perfectly for me: https://github.com/Grawp/rtl8812au_rtl8821au.git
[08:16] <malinus> cheers ducasse!
[08:16] <riqj> Eraik, I already removed the data. the HDD is blank now. just I thought maybe one of these tools could keep it working
[08:16] <ducasse> malinus: np, hope it works for you too. remember to remove the package :)
[08:17] <ducasse> riqj: you can't fix a hardware problem with software.
[08:17] <riqj> ducasse, but I remember from a while ago that tools like badblocks were rearranging bad parts etc..no?
[08:18] <OerHeks> riqj, even marking bad sectors does not help, bad sectors grow
[08:18] <Dro> hello, i'm trying to setup a VPN (openvpn), I imported the configuration files but everytime it show "connected" and can't access any website
[08:18] <Dro> when i try to ping google.com it no result, and when i ping an IP address it works.. its a dns problem?
[08:18] <ducasse> riqj: it reallocates them, but when all free reallocation sectors are used up it will just mark them as bad.
[08:19] <ducasse> riqj: but that disk can't be trusted, you *will* lose data.
[08:20] <Eraik> riqj I agree with ducasse
[08:20] <riqj> ducasse, OerHeks, I just intend to be able to use it a while longer. sure I don't trust it with any data. but just for browser activities. In this case, if these tools reallocate sectors and make the HDD work longer, that will do for me.
[08:22] <crazyman> i need technical help finding stuff
[08:22] <crazyman> i lost some stuff and i need to do a search for it
[08:22] <riqj> if you could tell me whether i.e. adblocks helped with this much, I'd be all right.
[08:22] <riqj> badblocks*
[08:22] <crazyman> its a highly irreplacable list of phone numbers of people who sell me bath salts
[08:25] <riqj> I just don't want to replace the disk right now, that's why
[08:27] <rexwin_> i am getting this when trying to add a ubuntu client to centos PDC. Error: DNS_ERROR_BAD_PACKET [code 0x0000251e]
[08:28] <Eraik> riqj you could use badblocks and mark all the bad ones and then run a fsck check after that.
[08:28] <Eraik> here's a guide: https://mintguide.org/system/283-how-to-check-and-fix-the-disk-for-errors-and-bad-sectors-in-linux-mint.html
[08:29] <riqj> Eraik, thank you very much, I was just searching on that
[08:31] <Eraik> np man, good luck
[08:31] <crazyman> FUCK THE POLICE HEADIN STRAIGHT FROM THE UNDERGROUND
[08:31] <crazyman> young nigga got it bad cuz im brown
[08:31] <crazyman> and  not the other color so police think
[08:31] <riqj> thank you :)
[08:31] <crazyman> they have the authority
[08:31] <crazyman> to kill a minority
[08:32] <crazyman> well fuck that shit cuz i aint the one
[08:32] <ducasse> !ot | crazyman
[08:32] <malek> hello guys im new here would like to have friends
[08:32] <crazyman> for a punk motherfucker with a badge and a gun
[08:32] <crazyman> to be beatin on
[08:32] <ducasse> !ops | crazyman
[08:32] <crazyman> and thrown in jail
[08:32] <crazyman> we can go toe to toe in the middle of a cell
[08:32] <crazyman> fuckin with me cuz im a teenager
[08:32] <Eraik> u crazy
[08:32] <crazyman> with a little bit of gold and a pager
[08:32] <Eraik> pls stop
[08:32] <crazyman> searchin my car
[08:32] <crazyman> lookin for the product
[08:33] <crazyman> thinkin every nigga is sellin narcotics
[08:33] <crazyman> Eraik: its the lyrics to Fuck Tha Police by N.W.A.
[08:33] <crazyman> that stands for Niggers With Attitude
[08:33] <ducasse> good bot.
[08:33] <malek> good
[08:33] <Eraik> thank you mr robot
[08:34] <malek> my favorite show MR.robot
[08:35] <Eraik> yee It's a good show
[08:39] <energizer> I believe that my installation is hung
[08:39] <energizer> "Creating ext4 file system for / in partition #1 of LVM VG ubuntu-vg, LV root...
[08:40] <Mikee> i want some friends to help me using ubuntu
[08:40] <energizer> How can I install this os if the insalation hangs
[08:40] <hack> fuck all
[08:40] <ducasse> !language | hack
[08:40] <bekks> energizer: you restart the installation.
[08:40] <energizer> bekks: i did
[08:40] <energizer> same problem
[08:41] <Eraik> Mikee ping me and I will help you :)
[08:41] <energizer> when i click the terminal dropdown it says Glib.source_remove(self.rows_changed_id)
[08:43] <bekks> energizer: so which Ubuntu installation iso are you ising, exactly?
[08:46] <riqj> Eraik, sorry, me again :) I just read through the guide and saw the latter section 'fix your hdd disk'..can I just apply this part without checking and marking badblocks (steps 5 and 6), or should these steps precede the fsck command?
[08:50] <riqj> ok,I follow the given order, starting with badblocks
[08:52] <Eraik> just do the part under : Fix your HDD disk:
[08:52] <Eraik> it should do the trick :)
[08:53] <riqj> oh, it'd started checking..will stop the process then
[08:54] <the_tricky> hello, guys
[08:54] <laszlowaty> hello
[08:54] <Eraik> hello
[08:54] <the_tricky> a few days ago a strange window started popping up
[08:55] <the_tricky> it says something about my keyring password doesn't match my login password anymore
[08:55] <the_tricky> but i haven't changed any of those
[08:55] <riqj> well, the check progresses not too slowly, maybe I can wait and see the damage assessment of the disk :)
[08:55] <the_tricky> what's the problem?
[08:56] <Eraik> do you have chrome installed by any chance ?
[08:56]  * netvixtra hands laszlowaty eggs & bacon
[08:57] <Eraik> I have had a similar problem with chrome and the keyring pop up
[08:57]  * laszlowaty eats everything and licks his eyebrows :)
[08:58] <riqj> I currently have the same problem with Chromium, too, keyring pops up!
[08:59] <riqj> since 14.04.
[09:00] <Everybodydothefl> Hey guys I'm back. So I fixed my Nvidia driver issue on my Mint partition using the driver manager. Now I am back on my xubuntu partiotion & am back at square one here as driver manager is not part of the ubuntu packages. So what Can I do to install my nvidia drivers, or install driver manager to use that tool?
[09:01] <Eraik> riqj the_tricky: I found this http://askubuntu.com/questions/618381/google-chromium-asks-for-keyring-to-unlock-14-04-but-i-dont-want-the-password
[09:01] <tomreyn> riqj: just so you do not miss this fact: if a drive has bad blocks, it will fail soon, whether or not you use the badblocks utility now or later
[09:02] <tomreyn> riqj: so be prepared, have current and complete and provenly restorable backups, and put some money aside to replace the disks, ideally by ssds.
[09:02] <riqj> tomreyn, thank you! yes, sure, it will be all right for me if it doesn't happen too soon. I already removed all data, and would like to use the disk for low-level activity
[09:02] <the_tricky> Eraik: I thought it has something to deal with Chrome
[09:03] <the_tricky> think, that will help
[09:03] <the_tricky> let me try and thanks in advance
[09:03] <akik> Everybodydothefl: you can just install nvidia-3nn from apt
[09:03] <tomreyn> riqj: alright :) just making sure you're not trying to revive a dead horse.
[09:03] <laszlowaty> netvixtra, great news in poland. Police catched pedophile with VIP status in tor. He is going to turn in everyone :)
[09:04] <MonkeyDust> laszlowaty  wrong channel
[09:04] <laszlowaty> MonkeyDust, why?
[09:04] <OerHeks> laszlowaty, read the topic, thanks.
[09:04] <bazhang> laszlowaty, this is ubuntu support ONLY
[09:05] <Everybodydothefl> @akik I tried, but I think it's because Im on an older nvidia chipset, but it didnt work right. Mine is GEforce GST 360M Cuda
[09:05] <laszlowaty> so does it mean that we can't talk about anything else at all?
[09:05] <riqj> Eraik, thank you again! :)
[09:06] <ducasse> laszlowaty: yes, it does
[09:06] <MonkeyDust> !ot | laszlowaty
[09:06] <bazhang> laszlowaty, not a chit chat channel at all
[09:06] <ducasse> Everybodydothefl: try "additional drivers" under software and updates
[09:06] <akik> Everybodydothefl: did you try the older version, nvidia-304 ? or whichever version is supported by your card
[09:07] <Everybodydothefl> I'll take a peek. Thanls @Ducasse
[09:07] <riqj> tomreyn, I haven't used ssds yet, are they more reliable against disk corruption?
[09:07] <Everybodydothefl> thanks*
[09:08] <Everybodydothefl> @Ducasse Additional drives is completely blank
[09:08] <tomreyn> riqj: no, not really (roughly the same nowadays), but they operate much faster.
[09:10] <tomreyn> riqj: just as with HDDs, there are more expensive SSDs which are more reliable against corruption / failure, those so-called 'enterprise' models.
[09:11] <riqj> tomreyn, I see..thank you!
[09:11] <tomreyn> welcome :)
[09:12] <Araneidae> How do I mount a NFS point at bootup?  Putting the mount in /etc/fstab causes a systemd dependency loop, which causes lots of systems to not start!
[09:12] <ducasse> Araneidae: which mount options did you use?
[09:13] <Araneidae> Just soft
[09:13] <Araneidae> Is there a delayed mount option that would do the trick?
[09:13] <ducasse> Araneidae: try adding _netdev
[09:13] <Araneidae> ta, will try
[09:14] <ducasse> Araneidae: you probably also want nofail so it will boot even if the nfs server is down
[09:14] <Araneidae> yes, that sounds wise!
[09:14] <Araneidae> Perfect.  I'll look through mount(8) now and see if I'm missing anything else
[09:17] <Araneidae> ducasse, nofail doesn't sound quite right: the man page just says "Do not report errors"
[09:18] <Everybodydothefl> perhaps I am looking at the wrong issue. I am trying to run steam. However when I try to run steam, I get the following output: chris @ chris-G60JX  ~ └─ $ ▶ steam ILocalize::AddFile() failed to load file "public/steambootstrapper_english.txt". [2016-09-04 02:17:55] Startup - updater built Jun 16 2014 11:16:02 SteamUpdateUI: An X Error occurred X Error of failed request:  BadValue (integer parameter out of range for op
[09:18] <ducasse> Araneidae: yes, but a reported error will cause systemd to stall the boot as it depends on all filesystems in fstab by default.
[09:19] <Araneidae> ok
[09:19] <ducasse> Araneidae: you coold also use a systemd mount unit instead of fstab, which would allow you to manually set dependencies (to follow networking for instance)
[09:19] <Everybodydothefl> any ideas guys?
[09:20] <Araneidae> ducasse, sounds sensible, but systemd alarms the hell out of me, I try to touch it as little as I can.
[09:20] <akik> Everybodydothefl: first thing i see is that maybe your steam installation is broken because it can't find that txt file
[09:21] <Everybodydothefl> ok I will try to uninstall & reinstall it. So Sudo apt-get --purge remove steam & then delete it from the home directory right?
[09:21] <ducasse> Araneidae: imo it is actually very nice to work with, i've had very few problems. you can use the systemd.mount man page.
[09:21] <Araneidae> Where do configuration units live?
[09:22] <ducasse> Araneidae: you add them in /etc/systemd/system
[09:22] <akik> Everybodydothefl: maybe, or apt-get install --reinstall steam
[09:22] <ducasse> Araneidae: packaged units are in /lib/systemd/system iirc
[09:23] <Araneidae> Ok, will take a look
[09:23] <rikan> guys
[09:24] <Everybodydothefl> @akik I tried the reinstall option & got the same output. I'll try uninstalling & reinstalling now
[09:29] <Everybodydothefl> @akik ok I am reinstalling it now directly from steam's website
[09:29] <Everybodydothefl> Just re-installed it in the software center
[09:30] <ducasse> Everybodydothefl: before you reinstall from the steam site, try asking in #ubuntu-steam
[09:31] <Everybodydothefl> ok
[09:33] <Everybodydothefl> @ducasse, that server is rather quiet at present. XD
[09:34] <Surfer2010> can i use ssh IP:port ... to access another linux device
[09:34] <EriC^^> Surfer2010: yeah
[09:34] <EriC^^> ssh user@host -p <port>
[09:34] <Surfer2010> it tells me Could not resolve hostname
[09:34] <Surfer2010> ok
[09:34] <Everybodydothefl> I did reinstall & it's now giving me the following output: chris @ chris-G60JX  ~ └─ $ ▶ steam Running Steam on ubuntu 16.04 64-bit STEAM_RUNTIME is enabled automatically Installing breakpad exception handler for appid(steam)/version(0)
[09:34] <Everybodydothefl> At that point it hangs
[09:35] <Surfer2010> ahh ok
[09:35] <Surfer2010> works EriC^^ thanks
[09:35] <EriC^^> Surfer2010: no problem
[09:36] <tomreyn> Everybodydothefl: 16.04?
[09:36] <tomreyn> oh yes it is, so do http://askubuntu.com/questions/771032/steam-not-opening-in-ubuntu-16-04-lts
[09:37] <Everybodydothefl> @Tomreyn Yes sir
[09:37] <tomreyn> the steam installer is the most broken piece of software i've seen in the past couple years.
[09:37] <tomreyn> it's also very ugly
[09:37] <bazhang> tomreyn, #ubuntu-steam for that
[09:38] <malinus> ducasse: cheers. the https://github.com/Grawp/rtl8812au_rtl8821au driver worked. Shouldn't the ubuntu mainterns (maybe the mainteriners of the dkms 8821au package?) be informed, so they can take the necessary steps to have the driver to work?
[09:38] <bazhang> tomreyn, ugly is not a support issue, so please dont continue in that fashion
[09:38] <Everybodydothefl> @Tomreyn Yeah I agree. XD. It runs ok on some of my other systems, but not this one. I thought it was because this laptop has an nvidia GPU chipset, but not sure at this point
[09:38] <tomreyn> i'm done on that part
[09:38] <ducasse> malinus: the problem is that different versions work for different variatons of the chipset...
[09:39] <ducasse> malinus: they would need to package a whole bunch, i've just built my own package with a dkms setup.
[09:40] <malinus> ducasse: this can't be the first time. I mean, this problem is probably already somehow solved for other chipsets, no?
[09:40] <Araneidae> I've still got one systemd boot cycle: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23131626/  Any idea what's going on here?
[09:40] <tomreyn> bazhang: i do think that pointing out when a software is bad quality (and thus maybe another one should be used instead) is part of providing a good support experience.
[09:40] <rikan> mmmm
[09:41] <tomreyn> now, admittedly, that's a meta discussion so it's not the right place to discuss it here. and i'll stop doing so.
[09:41] <Everybodydothefl> @tomreyn I will be honest, I get a bit lost at parts like this:  	  If you just installed Steam then go to ~/.steam/steam/ubuntu12_32/steam-runtime/i386/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/ and delete the link libstdc++.so.6. Then it should start without problem. Let it do the update." How exactly do I do that?
[09:41] <bazhang> tomreyn, its a wishlist bug, and this is not the place to take care of that, the mailing lists are however, consider signing up for some and particitpation fully there
[09:41] <bazhang> !lists | tomreyn
[09:42] <ducasse> malinus: realtek chipsets in general are crap, they have a lot of problems under linux.
[09:43] <akik> Everybodydothefl: it just says you should delete the symlink ~/.steam/steam/ubuntu12_32/steam-runtime/i386/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libstdc++.so.6
[09:43] <tomreyn> Everybodydothefl: i think you will need to move any questions regarding steam to #ubuntu-steam if i got bazhang right
[09:43] <malinus> ducasse: yeah but still, this should be solved. And in time, it probably will.
[09:44] <ducasse> malinus: yes, it might. but no, i've not seen this problem with other chipsets.
[09:44] <malinus> this is why I'm asking if there is something I can do to help.
[09:45] <ducasse> malinus: you could file a bug and report success with the driver from that repo, but i guess the devs prefer to use the driver from the manufacturer. you could ask, though.
[09:46] <ducasse> malinus: if you do file a bug, let me know and i will comment that i have the same experience.
[09:47] <malinus> ducasse: that driver is based on the one from the vendor, mainly some Makefile changes. I think what made it work for me, is this change enabling CFG80211. Which I can see is what the 8821au actually needs to use.
[09:48] <Everybodydothefl> @tomreyn Aggreable, my current question is more of a general one though. Where it says "go to ~/.steam/steam/ubuntu12_32/steam-runtime/i386/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/" How do I go to that file? Is it something I do through terminal or do I go into the file system?
[09:48] <ducasse> malinus: as i said, i don't *know* what the devs will do, so just ask them. it is a very common problem.
[09:49] <tomreyn> Everybodydothefl: this is a directory path. use the 'cd' command to change into this directory on a terminal.
[09:49] <tomreyn> Everybodydothefl: so: cd ~/.steam/steam/ubuntu12_32/steam-runtime/i386/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/
[09:49] <Everybodydothefl> I follow now, I think
[09:49] <Everybodydothefl> XD
[09:50] <Everybodydothefl> @tomreyn, I follow now I think XD
[09:50] <tomreyn> good :)
[09:50] <malinus> ducasse: well in any case, thanks again! I guess I should set it up with dkms so I don't need to recompile with every kernel upgrade.
[09:51] <ducasse> malinus: yes, that's what i did. it has worked for me since vivid or so.
[09:52] <netvixtra> laszlowaty: that those guys still operate on the dark web is mindbaffling. they know they will be caught and their lives ruined.
[09:52] <Everybodydothefl> @tomreyn Sorry, not to be obtuse, but in the instructions "delete the link libstdc++.so.6" What command do I use? Apt-get --purge remove?
[09:53] <tomreyn> Everybodydothefl: use 'rm' as in 'remove' to remove a file or, in this case, a link
[09:54] <Everybodydothefl> @tomreyn Ok I think I folow, so rm libstdc++.so.6
[09:55] <ikonia> or no
[09:55] <ikonia> you never rm that file
[09:56] <ducasse> ikonia: it's in a steam dir under his home, aiui
[09:56] <akik> Everybodydothefl: did you get that instruction from #ubuntu-steam ?
[09:56] <ikonia> why would he need to delete it then
[09:56] <tomreyn> it's a symlink, not a file
[09:57] <tomreyn> Everybodydothefl: maybe have a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal to get a basic grip on the terminal
[09:57] <Everybodydothefl> @akik no, from an ubuntu forum that tomreyn directed me to
[09:57] <Everybodydothefl> @tomreyen thanks. I got some of it down, but most is self taught. By no means complete
[10:12] <Everybodydothefl> @tomreyn so I think I may have been uninstalling steam incorrectly. When I did the apt-get --purge remove steam command, I got a prompt saying that I will need to additionally go to ~/.steam & manually remove it. Now what I previously did was going into file manager & then deleting it from my home folder. Should I instead cd to ~/.steam & type something like RM steam or something?
[10:14] <EriC^^> Everybodydothefl: no, that should suffice
[10:15] <Everybodydothefl> @Eric^^ ty although I just realized I cant go root in terminal. I type su - & then enter my password & it wont let me in @_@
[10:16] <EriC^^> Everybodydothefl: that's cause su - asks for the root password not yours
[10:16] <EriC^^> sudo -i should ask for yours and give you a root shell
[10:16] <Everybodydothefl> To heck with this, Imma switch to a different distro. I'm pretty much done with xubuntu voyager. I never once had any versions of this distro that didn't give me issues
[10:16] <Everybodydothefl> ok thanks
[10:17] <riqja> test
[10:17] <Everybodydothefl> Thanks everyone for all the help :D
[10:17] <Mikee> i really like ubuntu but dont know how to use it anyhelp ?
[10:18] <riqja> hello everyone, when I ran 'sudo badblocks -v -s /dev/sda' for 17 minutes, it gave 4/0/0 errors, and with full-run 'sudo fsck -t -y -f -c /dev/sda' it gave 1/0/0. could it be because the former command modified something?
[10:18] <bazhang> !manual | Mikee
[10:19] <bazhang> !rute | Mikee and this
[10:19] <Mikee> thank you alot
[10:19] <bazhang> there are tonne of links for you to read Mikee including a manual in pdf format
[10:20] <riqja> 17 minutes meaning 9% of disk searched
[10:20] <bazhang> there is also the askubuntu.com website Mikee and the ubuntuforrums online
[10:20] <bazhang> forums
[10:21] <Mikee> i copy all the links u sent
[10:21] <Mikee> i will take my time and read all
[10:21] <bazhang> super
[10:21] <Mikee> thanks alot my friend
[10:23] <bonno> hello guys. i need help with linux. i'm using elementaryOS distro which is based on ubuntu 14.04 on Thinkpad X1 Carbon laptop. i need to disable the synaptics touchpad while using the trackpoint. i'm pretty new with bash. google does not help much.
[10:24] <bazhang> bonno, get with the elementary os support for that
[10:24] <bazhang> !elementary
[10:25] <bazhang> bonno, ^
[10:25] <riqja> sorry, I was erring..the fsck output doesnt show any error listing..actually there is no report of any result. is there a log created somewhere?
[10:25] <ducasse> riqja: no output = no problems
[10:25] <bonno> @bazhang i think it's the same on lots of distros but thanks
[10:26] <riqja> ducasse, but, as I've written before, I have a disk that is said to be likely to fail soon
[10:26] <bazhang> bonno, thats the place to go, we dont support it here at all
[10:26] <ducasse> bonno: it is, but we don't support them.
[10:26] <ducasse> riqja: yes, so this is ultimately a bad idea anyway.
[10:26] <riqja> btw, fsck only says that the fs was modified.
[10:26] <bonno> ok thanks
[10:27] <riqja> yes, but what am I supposed to make of this then, is the disk corrupted, if it is, why no errors in fsck?
[10:28] <ducasse> riqja: because badblock has already reallocated all the bad blocks. they were probably empty.
[10:29] <ducasse> riqja: but you can't expect that disk to return the same data you wrote for very long.
[10:30] <riqja> ducasse, so you mean that because I ran badblocks first for 9% of the disk, it reallocated already the corrupted parts?
[10:31] <ducasse> riqja: no, for 9% of the disk. there might not have been any data on bad blocks - yet.
[10:32] <riqja> ah, ok. does any tool/command show me how much of the disk is corrupted (contains bad blocks) ?
[10:32] <ducasse> riqja: smartctl
[10:37] <riqja> ducasse, thank you!
[10:45] <t60> ciao a tutti
[10:51] <Nokaji> chalcedony: Hi, I PM'd you.
[10:59] <dritto77> hi
[10:59] <dritto77> hi
[11:00] <dritto77> hi
[11:00] <MonkeyDust> dritto77  it works, we see you
[11:00] <dritto77> OK
[11:15] <Sven_vB> hi! how can I have a program grab text from labels, form fields, status bars etc. in other windows? how do screen readers spy it? my search engine-fu lacks me today, just lots of (MS) windows and text file (not field) results. :(
[11:19] <riqj> the smart data shows the disk's 'Reallocated Sector Count' as failing, with values as Sectors:1325, Normalized:34, Threshold:140, Worst:34 and Type: Pre-Fail.
[11:19] <riqj> it is obvious the disk is failing, but do these numbers tell how soon it will be?
[11:25]  * riqj a-ponders on the silence
[11:29] <Jakey3> Hi How do i reset a password of a user from terminal?
[11:29]  * riqj is still known as riqj
[11:29] <Jakey3> \clear
[11:30]  * riqj just heard his voice echoing back 
[11:30] <Sven_vB> riqj, as far as I understand the S.M.A.R.T. wikipedia page, "failing" means that the device might stop to work (at all!) at any moment, and should be replaced immediately.
[11:30] <theShirbiny> Sven_vB, check out gnome inspector and dbus interface
[11:31] <Sven_vB> theShirbiny, thanks!
[11:31] <riqj> Sven_vB, thank you!
[11:32] <riqj> I was thinking whether the numerical values hinted at any level of corruption, but that sounds rather imminent!
[11:32] <Sven_vB> riqj, good luck! =)
[11:32] <riqj> thank you :)
[11:32] <Sven_vB> oh, if you want to do backups, try to not power it up again - so dont power it down until you have them
[11:33] <riqj> Sven_vB, thank you for hinting, I already removed all data, thankfully :)
[11:34] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:34] <Sven_vB> about "imminent": I've seen "failing" disks work semi-reliably for weeks. the warning is meant for people with important data. ;)
[11:35] <Sven_vB> i've also had a device that after failing, had just 2 powerups left.
[11:36] <Sven_vB> it probably activated n00b protection to convince me to send it to a professional recovery lab before i do more damage to it.
[11:36] <riqj> Sven_vB, yes, I intend to use, if I can, for low-level, non-critical activities as long as it goes
[11:41] <jorrit> I'm trying to override the USB hardware ID of an FTDI cable. I followed these instructions but they don't seem to work:
[11:41] <jorrit> http://askubuntu.com/questions/525016/cant-open-port-dev-ttyusb0
[11:44] <Sven_vB> theShirbiny, (and channel logs) also looking at gtkparasite.
[11:45] <Jakey3> how do i reset a users password from root
[11:45] <Jakey3> without knowing their current password
[11:46] <bekks> Jakey3: passwd username
[11:46] <Jakey3> thanks
[12:01] <bibienok> 1236
[12:01] <bibienok> test
[12:08] <bulldog> hi
[12:08] <bulldog> neha_, hi
[12:11] <genbu> hello. i use radiance theme in gnome-flashback. in some application, for example hexchat, menu words are of the same color of the theme so they are transparent. is there a way to fix?
[12:12] <YankDownUnder> genbu: In the preferences for Hexchat, you can choose to NOT use the "system theme".
[12:14] <choice> Hello! Does anybody here have a machine that supports EFI? How does "ls /boot/efi" look like on your machine?
[12:14] <genbu> also thunderbird has the same problem
[12:20] <BillyTheKid> Hey guys. I run thecommand "pvresize /dev/sda2", it's been hours but it still going. I get no indication that the command is actually doing something. Should I try to stop it? Do I risk my data?
[12:20] <bekks> You do risk your data.
[12:20] <bekks> Dod you have a backup?
[12:20] <choice> Am I correct that to restore the boot process /boot was destroyed completely, the steps are like this? 1) update-initramfs -c 2) grub-install /dev/sda 3) update-grub
[12:21] <EriC^^> choice: you need to reinstall various grub packages and the kernel too
[12:21] <choice> EriC^^: "reinstall the kernel"?
[12:22] <choice> EriC^^: The kernel is stored in /boot?
[12:22] <EriC^^> yes sir
[12:22] <choice> EriC^^: In the vmlinz-... file?
[12:22] <choice> EriC^^: In the vmlinuz-... file?
[12:22] <EriC^^> yeah
[12:23] <EriC^^> choice: are you using uefi?
[12:24] <choice> EriC^^: Yes
[12:24] <EriC^^> if rm -r /boot happened then you need to recreate /boot/efi for the efi partition mounting
[12:24] <BillyTheKid> anyone knows how I can tell if pvresize hang?
[12:25] <laura_> hi i need help with video driver
[12:25] <laura_> i have a poor screen resolution, after updating to latest version i couldnt boot, so i had to set "nomodeset" in kernel before boot
[12:25] <jorrit> I'm trying to override the USB hardware ID of an FTDI cable. I followed these instructions but they don't seem to work, I still get the same H/W ID
[12:25] <laura_> so now im, stuck with resolution slanted to the "right"
[12:26] <laura_> and text is slightly blurry
[12:28] <choice> EriC^^: What does the /boot/efi directory contain?
[12:28] <EriC^^> the efi partition
[12:29] <choice> EriC^^: I understand that. But how does that look like? Does it only contain directories or initrd... files too?
[12:29] <EriC^^> /boot/efi/efi/ubuntu/{grubx64.efi,shimx64.efi,etc.}
[12:30] <choice> EriC^^: I mean only on the /boot/efi/ level. Should there only be efi/ and grub/ ?
[12:30] <EriC^^> you mean in /boot?
[12:30] <EriC^^> /boot should contain efi and grub yeah
[12:31] <EriC^^> and kernels and other stuff
[12:31] <choice> oh
[12:31] <choice> It contains kernels too?
[12:31] <choice> no, i mean in /boot/efi
[12:31] <EriC^^> efi partition gets mounted under /boot/efi and the efi stuff
[12:31] <EriC^^> *and has
[12:32] <choice> so there should be no initrd... files directly in /boot/efi, right?
[12:32] <EriC^^> /boot/efi has an efi dir, and that has an ubuntu dir and maybe microsoft, boot etc depending on your os
[12:32] <EriC^^> no
[12:32] <choice> Ok. Because on my machine there are some, but i think its from my attempts to repair the machine.
[12:32] <choice> So I will delete those.
[12:33] <choice> It looks like my original vmlinz-... is still there.
[12:34] <EriC^^> did you have arch linux installed?
[12:34] <choice> I just have no clue how to get it to be included in the grub menu.
[12:34] <choice> EriC^^: No. Only Mint and Ubuntu.
[12:34] <EriC^^> nevermind
[12:34] <EriC^^> update-grub should get it
[12:34] <choice> Updating ubuntu killed the encrypted Mint partition.
[12:34] <choice> No, update-grub does not find the encrypted partition.
[12:35] <EriC^^> what?
[12:35] <choice> I am trying it from within a chroot in the encrypted partition, but so far no success.
[12:35] <EriC^^> ubuntu isn't encrypted, mint is? you're chrooted into ubuntu?
[12:36] <EriC^^> *into mint
[12:36] <choice> I have 4 partitions on the machine: unencrypted ubuntu, unencrypted mint 17, unencrypted mint 19, encrypted mint 17.
[12:36] <choice> The encrpyted mint 17 is my main OS. But ubuntu killed it when it updated grub.
[12:37] <EriC^^> killed it how?
[12:38] <choice> EriC^^: It does not show in the Boot menu anymore.
[12:38] <EriC^^> reinstall grub from the encrypted mint install
[12:39] <choice> Thats what I am trying.
[12:39] <choice> Here are my steps:
[12:39] <choice> 1) I mount the encrypted partition to /mnt
[12:40] <EriC^^> did you mount the /boot partition of mint?
[12:40] <choice> 2) I mount /dev, /proc and /sys to /mnt/dev, /mnt proc and /mnt/sys
[12:40] <choice> EriC^^: one moment, that is my step #4 or so...
[12:41] <choice> 3) chroot /mnt/
[12:41] <choice> 4) mount /dev/sda2 /boot
[12:41] <choice> 5) mount /dev/sda1 /boot/efi
[12:41] <choice> sda1 is the ESP partition
[12:41] <EriC^^> update-grub shows what now?
[12:42] <choice> 6) ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid to find the uuid of the encrypted partition
[12:42] <choice> 7) put that into /etc/crypttab
[12:42] <choice> 8) update-initramfs -c
[12:42] <choice> 9) grub-install /dev/sd
[12:42] <choice> 9) grub-install /dev/sda
[12:42] <choice> 10) update-grub
[12:42] <choice> Thats all
[12:43] <EriC^^> what does update-grub show?
[12:43] <choice> EriC^^: It works, but the last time I tried, my encrypted Mint still did not show up in the boot menu
[12:43] <choice> So I am going through the steps again now.
[12:43] <sveinse> Are there any supported and updated armhf repos to xenial? I'm using ports.ubuntu.com, but its seems it has no security updates
[12:43] <EriC^^> choice: it might be showing a different grub config when you start grub
[12:43] <EriC^^> choice: did grub pick it up when you did update-grub?
[12:43] <EriC^^> all os
[12:44] <choice> EriC^^: It does not show that it picked up the Mint in question.
[12:44] <choice> EriC^^: But maybe thats because I am chrooted into it?
[12:44] <EriC^^> no, it should pick it up
[12:44] <choice> EriC^^: Would update-grub report "I found myself"?
[12:45] <EriC^^> try ls /boot/vmlinuz*
[12:45] <EriC^^> does it show kernels there?
[12:45] <choice> EriC^^: Yes, one looks like it is the right one.
[12:45] <EriC^^> looks?
[12:46] <choice> EriC^^: The date is from a few months ago. When everything still worked.
[12:46] <EriC^^> what's the filename?
[12:46] <choice> EriC^^: vmlinuz-4.4.0-21-generic
[12:47] <EriC^^> ok, and grub doesn't mention it at all eh?
[12:47] <choice> EriC^^: It might mention it. Not sure.
[12:47] <choice> EriC^^: It just does not mention "Mint 17"
[12:47] <EriC^^> try update-grub again
[12:47] <EriC^^> it won't say mint 17
[12:47] <choice> Ok
[12:47] <choice> So one moment, let me chroot again...
[12:48] <choice> update-grub will recreate the initrd file?
[12:50] <EriC^^> no it'll just mention picking them up
[12:50] <choice> Ok. I have the feeling the initrd file is not good. Because it has a date after things gone bad.
[12:51] <rly> I created a Live Knoppix USB key via unetbootin, but when I try to boot it (I selected all the USB related devices, but the brand of the USB stick is not shown), no code is ever loaded and the device is just skipped.
[12:51] <EriC^^> choice: it's cause you just recreated it with update-initramfs
[12:51] <choice> EriC^^: So should I run update-initramfs before update-grub?
[12:51] <EriC^^> if you already did no
[12:51] <rly> The BIOS doesn't display the brand of the USB stick.
[12:51] <rly> It should have done that, right?
[12:52] <rly> Can it be that the size of the USB stick is too large?
[12:52] <choice> EriC^^: Yeah, and I might have done it while the machine was in a bad state. Wrong ESP partition mountd or wrong boot partition mounted etc. So I think its better to do it again now with a good state?
[12:52] <EriC^^> choice: as you wish
[12:53] <ipgd> hI
[12:53] <choice> Ok. "update-initramfs -u". Gives me this output: "generating /boot/initrd.img-3.16.0-38-generic"
[12:54] <choice> And "grep: /boot/config-3.16.0-38-generic: No such file or directory".
[12:54] <choice> And some more errors.
[12:54] <EriC^^> choice: the initrd and kernel dont match
[12:54] <EriC^^> choice: let's continue this conversation in ##linux
[12:54] <choice> Ok
[12:54] <EriC^^> as this an ubuntu support channel and it's not much allowed here
[12:56] <Mikee> can we hack facebook ?
[12:57] <bekks> Mikee: Wrong network.
[12:57] <Mikee> :(
[12:57] <ipgd> Why you want to hack FB ?
[12:57] <Mikee> help me where to go
[12:58] <bekks> Mikee: Go out, on the streets, and play with the other kids.
[12:58] <Mikee> i have a close friend
[12:58] <L0uL0uT3> bekks: :D
[12:58] <ipgd> I'll help you to police
[12:58] <Mikee> i just wanted help
[13:04] <genbu> solve my problem. i used gtk-theme-config
[13:04] <genbu> *solved
[13:18] <afx_> hello ! can anyone recommend a safe to use alternative to dropbox?
[13:19] <smong> afx_: MEGA?
[13:20] <smong> afx_: I don't know much about it, but a few people at my university use it because they don't trust dropbox
[13:20] <afx_> smong: thank you ! will look into it
[13:21] <bonno> hey guys. how do u disable thinkpad touchpad while using trackpoint? i'm new to bash
[13:26] <ZeekHuge> bonno: you can use xinput to disable track-pad and set a custom short-cut to do so easily.
[13:35] <ZeekHuge> bonno: something like this : xinput --enable $(xinput --list --id-only "SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad")
[13:38] <cikgualim> hi
[13:38] <EriC^^> hi
[13:41] <krazybitch> Sup
[13:47] <nobi> hi
[13:50] <theShirbiny> hi nobi
[13:53] <nobi> what's up in ubuntu
[13:53] <tsquar3d_> That's a broad question. :-p
[13:53] <nobi> lol
[13:54] <maxcell_> lol
[13:58] <grkblood> i have a samba share that I can mount and write to as root but not a normal user. the share is 775 and owned by the samba group on my client and the user in question is a member of the samba group. why can't this user write to the share?
[13:58] <kallo82> Hello , i have a dell latitude e5470 skylake , i need to setup all drivers as i have many issues on ubuntu 16.04 , how do i do that ?
[14:00] <EriC^^> grkblood: did you just add the user?
[14:00] <nobi> i have a latitude. it was more or less automatic for me
[14:01] <grkblood> EriC^^, nope
[14:01] <EriC^^> grkblood: can the user modify files that are already there?
[14:01] <alves> hi
[14:02] <grkblood> if i do a echo test > test Ill get a permission denied and the test file will be created but itll be empty
[14:03] <EriC^^> hmm, no idea
[14:07] <Dreaman> how to upgeat ubuntu to 16.10
[14:07] <rikan> lel
[14:07] <rikan> just upgrade
[14:07] <Dreaman> upgreat
[14:07] <rikan> UPGEAT
[14:07] <Dreaman> not work
[14:08] <Dreaman> command
[14:09] <Dreaman> repos name change
[14:09] <rikan> wut?
[14:19] <DJones> Dreaman: Ubuntu 16.10 hasn't been released yet, its still in development, the normal upgrade path won't be available until around 21st October 2016, you could ask in #ubuntu+1 about how to upgrade to the development release,but generally, its not recommended unless you're used todealing with bugs and broken systems during the development process
[14:29] <Dreaman> DJones ok but upgreat not work
[14:30] <mr-j> hello world
[14:30] <BluesKaj> DJones, I'm testing Kubuntu 16.10 Yakkety atm , and there no problems until the freeze last week, then suddenly after a large upgrade network manager no longer recognized the NIC ethernet connection, I haven't seen any other reports about this problem so it might be my HW that's to blame.
[14:30] <mr-j> good morning
[14:36] <MonkeyDust> good afternoon
[14:37] <lordcirth> MonkeyDust, good morning :)
[14:39] <hfp> Hi, I am resizing the disk image on my Linux 16.04 server VM. The guide I'm following advises to delete the partition and recreate it, but larger (once the disk image file has been extended). So I did it because I have a backup anyway, and I don't understand how deleting the partition and recreating it doesn't result in data loss. Could someone explain?
[14:40] <lordcirth> hfp, great question!
[14:40] <lordcirth> hfp, the partition data is stored in the partition table at the front of the drive
[14:41] <lordcirth> hfp, it says where the partition starts and how long it is.
[14:41] <lordcirth> So, if you delete the partition info from the table, the contents are still on disk, they're just in unassigned space.
[14:42] <lordcirth> hfp, then if you carefully make a partition with *exactly* the same start point, and a bigger length, all the old stuff will still be there + some amount of garbage data at the end.
[14:46] <hfp> lordcirth: Ah that makes sense. Say , for the sake of argument, that I had one partition originally. I wanted to extend that partition and also create an extra one in the free space. If I create the new one first, and then resize the other one, then I would lose data because the new partition would be written over old data, correct? What happens then if I don't format and the newer partition is smaller than
[14:46] <hfp> the original one? Do I get corrupt data or do I get the original data but truncated to the smaller size?
[14:47] <erasmus> I just added a new hdd to my system to backup a drive that has LUKS on it. If I dd /dev/sdb /dev/sdc will it have the same encryption key as the other drive?
[14:47] <erasmus> or do I have to use cryptosetup?
[14:48] <lordcirth> hfp, if you made the new one in the space previously occupied by the temporarily-deleted partition, it would get some of the data, yes.  If it got only some of it, it'd be corrupt.
[14:48] <lordcirth> hfp, many partition editors allow you to see & choose the actual placement of partitions, like GParted.  If the one you need to use doesn't, then all you can control is creation order.
[14:54] <transhuman_> Hi I am trying to find files with find . -iname '*.py'-print unfortunately it includes the path /home/<username>/tensorflow which has like a billion hits how do I exclude this path but search the rest of the /home/<username>/ path?
[14:55] <lordcirth> transhuman_, http://stackoverflow.com/questions/4210042/exclude-directory-from-find-command#4210072
[14:56] <transhuman_> thaks 20 minutes of searching did not find that...should have looked for prune ;-)
[14:56] <AlexKrug> yo!
[14:57] <krazy8> Hi
[15:03] <lordcirth> transhuman_, my search was "find exclude path" and it was top result on duckduckgo
[15:13] <transhuman_> good to know lordcirth I decided to use the following command (which I wouldn't have found easily without your help ) find /home/<user> -name '*.py' | grep -v /home/<user>/tensorflow
[15:13] <transhuman_> thanks again
[15:14] <marcisb> How i can save in nano text editor?
[15:14] <lordcirth> transhuman_, hah I do that a lot.  Grep is often simpler than command-specific arguments :)
[15:14] <marcisb> For example edit file and save ?
[15:14] <lordcirth> marcisb, aren't all of the buttons listed at the bottom?
[15:14] <marcisb> There is no save command like in notepad
[15:15] <lordcirth> Ctrl-O , write out
[15:15] <marcisb> Yes but it makes copy of file
[15:15] <lordcirth> or if you Ctrl-X to close it will ask if you want to save.
[15:15] <marcisb> near edited file
[15:15] <transhuman_> very true, grep dumbs it down for stupid people like me ;-)
[15:15] <transhuman_> trying to remember that other command ...
[15:15] <lordcirth> marcisb, it shouldn't.  Perhaps you typed a slightly wrong filename?
[15:16] <lordcirth> If you edit an existing file it autocompletes the name
[15:18] <choice> Today is Distro tryout day ...
[15:19] <krazy8> @choice what is that?
[15:19] <choice> Installing Ubuntu-Mate right now. It asked me for my encryption key before it let me choose the keyboard layout. Seems not very wise.
[15:19] <choice> krazy8: Trying to find a distro with a) nice destop b) the ability to install in an encrypted partition.
[15:20] <choice> s/destop/desktop
[15:20] <marcisb> no
[15:20] <marcisb> It saves another file with same name with extension copy
[15:21] <SchrodingersScat> choice: I recall having to install at least +1 more time than I really should have needed to, because of keyboard layout ;(  BIOS is in qwerty, and then rest is finally in dvorak.
[15:21] <krazy8> Ohh... Thank you for explaining
[15:21] <choice> SchrodingersScat: Yeah
[15:21] <popey> choice: Ubuntu MATE uses the same installer as the rest of the Ubuntu flavours.
[15:21] <popey> choice: you actually choose the keyboard layout at boot, before you install.
[15:21] <choice> popey: Are you sure? Then I missed the encryption functionality in Mint Mate.
[15:21] <popey> choice: the installer allows you to change it though
[15:22] <popey> choice: yes, Mint isn't an official flavour though
[15:22] <SchrodingersScat> choice: I haven't used the ubuntu MATE, but I would have assumed that would be part of the partitioning.
[15:22] <SchrodingersScat> !flavor
[15:22] <SchrodingersScat> yes, it is
[15:22] <SchrodingersScat> !MATE
[15:22] <SchrodingersScat> ohhh, mint, my bad.
[15:22] <popey> :)
[15:23] <choice> I wonder what the pros/cons of Ubuntu Mate vs Mint Mate are.
[15:23] <popey> choice: depends who you ask, and not a support question for this channel. Better asked elsewhere.
[15:25] <olscumpy> I live in interesting times
[15:25] <choice> Found the first two downsides of Ubuntu Mate: 1) The scrollwheel does not work. 2) I cannot find the driver manager.
[15:26] <choice> Found it.
[15:26] <mrmystery> I was trying to install musicbee through wine and its saying xp is not supported but I have changed the OS version to 8.1. Can anyoone help me?
[15:27] <olscumpy> installed ubuntu-mate onto a computer that already had mint-mate. used the same /home partition. I suspect that is why I don't have a window manager, but the lack thereof is really making life difficult
[15:27] <DJones> mrmystery: It might be worth asking in ##winehq which is the main support channel for Wine, I think they'd be best placed to be able to help you
[15:28] <olscumpy> some windows are partially off screen, and I can't grab them to move them
[15:28] <olscumpy> I've got terminal though!
[15:28] <olscumpy> and I've got the bottom panel, but not the top panel
[15:35] <Era> Uh, Im having a problem, I installed screencloud but got an error, output of apt-get install -f was the same, output http://paste.ubuntu.com/23132893/
[15:35] <riqj> hello everyone, the tool for passwords and keys does not update immediately since 16.04. (or 15.10.?)..when I added a new keyring or password, I had to restart..is there an alternative way to enable this?
[15:36] <riqj> I mean, of course, when I added them into the folder..
[15:37] <krazy8> Whenever i use make command after ./configure it gives no makefile found. What am I doing wrong?
[15:39] <riqj> I mean only keyrings..when I add them into the keyrings folder, I need to restart for them to appear in the referred program..
[15:41]  * riqj chooses to restart
[15:46] <Asad2005> I am upgrading my 128GB SSD and have ordered a 500gb SSD. What would be the best stratigy to clone exisiting SSD to the bigger one? My current set up is 487 MB /boot/efi + 29.3 GB / + 7.9 GB swap + 81.6 GB /home
[15:48] <baizon> Asad2005: just more for /home
[15:50] <Asad2005> baizon: i need more for others, i am upgrading because when i try to upgrade OS i always have to apt-get autoclean/remove
[15:51] <baizon> Asad2005: well i got personally 40GB for /
[15:51] <baizon> Asad2005: and i never get that message
[15:51] <Asad2005> baizon: Also do i need the swap for an SSD?
[15:51] <Asad2005> baizon: Probably yes but i have 29 GB only for /
[15:51] <baizon> Asad2005: well some older programs use swap, but i dont have any swap on my ssd
[15:53] <Asad2005> baizon: Let's say i made / as 50 GB what would be the best way to clone the whole system all partitions
[15:53] <baizon> Asad2005: i used clonezilla
[15:54] <kundry_wagn> Does anyone know how to make xcape use ctrl+c when I press left alt+c? (I will do this for all letters, actually). xcape -e 'Alt_L|c=Control_L|c' didn't work, it says "Invalid key: Alt_L|c". I suspect xcape doesn't support this kind of remapping.
[15:54] <Asad2005> baizon: so i just need to creat the partitions and clone one at a time via clonezilla
[15:55] <ecio> Hello! When I try to set the driver for my wlan adapter in the "additional drivers" tool, it switches back to "do not use the device" as soon as I click "apply changes". Any ideas how to go about this?
[15:55] <baizon> ecio: check log
[15:55] <ecio> baizon: dmesg?
[15:56] <boodllebat> i need help with ssh
[15:56] <ecio> baizon: dmes does not show anything about it as far as I can see.
[15:57] <baizon> !ask | boodllebat
[15:57] <boodllebat> i need help , i have a virtual terminal and i had ssh key on my server now i want to create new key and ssh password login is disabled how do i set up new key and remove old one from server i have access to virtual terminal
[15:58] <boodllebat> baizon: need help
[15:58] <boodllebat> no clue about ssh actually i forgot
[15:58] <baizon> ecio: https://askubuntu.com/questions/22118/can-i-install-extra-drivers-via-the-command-prompt
[15:58] <boodllebat> i can access virtual terminal though and have root password
[15:59] <ecio> boodllebat: Strange, it worked in the UI when I installed and it also works in Mint.
[15:59] <boodllebat> ecio: ?
[15:59] <baizon> boodllebat: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Keys
[15:59] <ecio> boodllebat: When I try to set the driver for my wlan adapter in the "additional drivers" tool, it switches back to "do not use the device" as soon as I click "apply changes".
[16:00] <eduardo> Know a program to have access to channels worldwide?
[16:00] <akik> boodllebat: just create new keys with ssh-keygen and then update the new public key on the server
[16:00] <boodllebat> ecio: i dunno i am here for help
[16:00] <ecio> baizon: Does the "Additional Drivers" dialog somehow show which would be the corresponging driver to install from the command line?
[16:00] <boodllebat> akik: how to update new key i only have access to virtual terminal and its laggy
[16:01] <akik> boodllebat: ssh-keygen -t rsa -f new_private_key_file -b 2048
[16:01] <sylario> Hi, i want to install a version of ansible not available in apt-get, how do i proceed to do so?
[16:02] <ecio> baizon: When I try to install from the command line, it tries to load it from the internet. But it's my wlan driver that is missing :)
[16:02] <baizon> sylario: https://launchpad.net/~ansible/+archive/ubuntu/ansible
[16:02] <baizon> ecio: well i guess thats the problem then
[16:02] <boodllebat> akik: i have to generate new private key file on server and paste its public key on my system ?
[16:02] <akik> boodllebat: then add the new_private_key_file.pub on the server at $HOME/.ssh/authorized_keys
[16:02] <Bubba> is it possible with linux to trace in real time where a program is writing to the disk?
[16:02] <akik> boodllebat: you create the keys on the client system
[16:02] <baizon> Bubba: yes
[16:03] <sylario> baizon:  already saw thoses through apt-get, i want 2.0.2, it is not available in apt-get
[16:03] <ecio> baizon: It worked when I booted into the "try ubuntu" thing and installed ubuntu. I had wifi then.
[16:03] <Bubba> baizon: what can I use? everything I try fails
[16:04] <boodllebat> akik: i generated to file on my system do and do.pub , now i have to paste do.pub on server's .ssh folder ?
[16:05] <testsubject> I'm trying to use ubuntu on a new Dell Inspiron 7559. It has an m.2 SSD with Windows 10 installed and I have installed a 2.5" disk in the second hdd bay for linux. After install it freezes during boot.
[16:06] <marcisb> i cant edit text file because fucking permissions
[16:06] <testsubject> I've seen people say to use "nomodeset" on the grub screen, which I think I have done correctly, but it doesn't help.
[16:06] <marcisb> Ubuntu sucks
[16:06] <boodllebat> akik ?
[16:06] <johannes__> nooooo...
[16:06] <baizon> marcisb: well change the permissions then?
[16:06] <marcisb> How i can log into my account as sudo
[16:06] <maxcell_> testsubject, how did you do it, do you have nvidia card?
[16:06] <marcisb> its annoying to write in console sudo million of times
[16:07] <ecio> marcisb: sudo su
[16:07] <maxcell_> marcisb, type su and let it open
[16:07] <marcisb> su: Authentication failure
[16:07] <marcisb> i write correct pass
[16:08] <baizon> marcisb: well it seems youre not
[16:08] <maxcell_> marcisb, sudo su passwd, set the password for super user first
[16:08] <ecio> marcisb: type "sudo su" and press enter. What happens then?
[16:09] <testsubject> max, yes, it's got the dual intel integrated and (I believe) automatic switching between it and discrete 960m. At the grub menu, I type "e" and go to the row that starts with "linux" and has splash, etc arguments behind it. I added "nomodeset" there and hit F10 to boot.
[16:10] <maxcell_> testsubject, seems like you did it the right way
[16:11] <marcisb> How i can set it?
[16:11] <maxcell_> testsubject, i dont have a notebook so i didnt have any experience on this, all i know is that have a project called bumbleblee, something like that, to do that stuff
[16:11] <akik> boodllebat: you need to paste the do.pub into your home directory on the server $HOME/.ssh/authorized_keys it should be on one line
[16:11] <boodllebat> akik: authorized_keys is a file right ?
[16:11] <akik> boodllebat: yes
[16:12] <boodllebat> akik: i deleted it now creating new one
[16:12] <maxcell_> marcisb, sudo su (than login) after that you type passwd, to set a new password for the root (super user[su])
[16:12] <boodllebat> i'll paste my .pub on it
[16:12] <testsubject> maxcell_: I'll look into it, thanks
[16:13] <maxcell_> testsubject, i heard that some BIOS can disable one of this 2 cards aswell, mayb you can boot disabling one and typing nomodeset in the /vmlinuz boot
[16:14] <akik> boodllebat: then tell your ssh client to use the private key, e.g. ssh -i do
[16:15] <marcisb> In windows more easy
[16:15] <marcisb> Workflow
[16:15] <marcisb> In linux need put some effort
[16:16] <boodllebat> akik: i'm unable to paste from my buffer to virtual terminals buffer
[16:16] <boodllebat> akik: i cant manually type all that stuff
[16:16] <akik> boodllebat: you can transfer that do.pub to the server and edit it there
[16:17] <boodllebat> akik: there's no way i only enabled sftp
[16:17] <maxcell_> marcisb, windows in the past wasnt that easy tho. like windows 95, 98, ME. Windows 10 is easy but, i think it isnt easy for developers do the job(nvidia), but they do anyway
[16:17] <jill> Hi, I'm hitting an issue I have trouble searching for. Mainly: Whenever I close my laptop to sleep it, when I wake it back up, it'll keep going back to sleep until I close and quickly re-open the lid. Any pointers?
[16:17] <akik> boodllebat: why?
[16:17] <boodllebat> akik: i guess i have to turn on ssh password login from ssh config
[16:17] <akik> boodllebat: why did you delete your old key from there?
[16:18] <boodllebat> akik: i still have acess to virtual terminal so i can change ssh config right ?
[16:18] <akik> boodllebat: well that saved you
[16:18] <testsubject> maxcell_: got to reboot to try. Thanks for the suggestions.
[16:18] <akik> boodllebat: just don't close it now
[16:19] <akik> boodllebat: transfer do.pub on to the server then use "cat do.pub >> $HOME/.ssh/authorized_keys"
[16:20] <boodllebat> akik: yes but first i have to open ssh configs i open it just looking for that line
[16:20] <boodllebat> akik: to allow passwd login
[16:20] <akik> boodllebat: you said you have a terminal open there
[16:22] <boodllebat> akik: virtual terminal is opened via browser
[16:24] <boodllebat> akik: like i have a domin abc.com how do i opt for password login ?
[16:24] <boodllebat> akik: ssh root@abc.com ? its asks for type yes/no for keyfile
[16:25] <akik> boodllebat: did you restart the sshd?
[16:26] <boodllebat> akik: yes
[16:26] <boodllebat> akik: service ssh restart
[16:27] <akik> boodllebat: well tell ssh not to use the keyfile if you don't want that. it goes through a selection process for the authentication scheme
[16:27] <Exagone313> sshd?
[16:29] <boodllebat> Exagone313: ?
[16:37] <|WaV|> Trying to connect to a FTP with TLS in curl and I get the following error: curl: (35) gnutls_handshake() failed: Handshake failed. I also get a similar error in lftp. Anyone know what causes this?
[16:56] <amincd> Hi, I copied a bunch of user data, including the .config file, over from a backup I had made, and now my desktop won't launch after login. There no icons, no Unity launcher, and I can't bring up any options by right clicking the mouse cursor. Any suggestions
[16:58] <ikonia> remove the .config files for the desktop
[16:58] <ikonia> let them be re-created
[16:58] <amincd> ikonia: thanks, I tried that already, no luck
[17:01] <MichaelP> 16.04 how do i load the amdgpu.. it's installed lsmod shows radeon loaded
[17:02] <tomeaton17> Hello how can I stop gpgv error when trying to install packages with apt
[17:03] <bekks> tomeaton17: Which error exactly on which Ubuntu exactly?
[17:03] <tomeaton17> Errors were encountered while processing:  gpgv
[17:03] <tomeaton17> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[17:03] <tomeaton17> Ubuntu 16.04
[17:04] <bekks> tomeaton17: Thats the summary, not the error. Pastebin the entire output please and provide the URL please.
[17:05] <tomeaton17> bekks: ok http://pastebin.com/Lzs4GXQ5
[17:06] <bekks> tomeaton17: Line 30ff. tells you exactly what to do.
[17:07] <itachi_> hello
[17:09] <tomeaton17> Ok thanks for the help
[17:11]  * Obadiah1 loves ubuntu
[17:11] <netvixtra> Obadiah1: get in line
[17:12]  * Obadiah1 gets in line.
[17:14] <olscumpy> what is "KP Right" in keyboard shortcuts
[17:14] <PCatinean> Hey guys, my ubuntu won't boot, any ideea how I can extract the information I need from the hdd and format?
[17:15] <bekks> PCatinean: What happens after powering your computer on?
[17:16] <PCatinean> bekks, it enter grub bootloader
[17:16] <PCatinean> I select ubuntu
[17:17] <PCatinean> And then I see black terminal saying init: Caught abort, core dumped
[17:17] <PCatinean> Assertion failed in _nih_error_Raise_system: errno >0
[17:17] <PCatinean> These two lines over and over again
[17:17] <Guest62709> guys how can i register my nickname?
[17:18] <Obadiah1> use nickserv
[17:18] <bekks> !register | Guest62709
[17:19] <lordcirth> PCatinean, have you tried going to Advanced and selecting a previous kernel?
[17:19] <bekks> Guest62709: Are you trying to start a container?
[17:19] <johnc4510> Guest62709: i believe you can /msg nickserv help register
[17:19] <PCatinean> lordcirth, how do i go to advanced?
[17:19] <PCatinean> I have the memtests and that's it
[17:20] <lordcirth> PCatinean, in grub, right below Ubuntu?  Normally there's an extra options or something?
[17:20] <lordcirth> PCatinean, what Ubuntu version?
[17:20] <Guest62709> :)
[17:21] <PCatinean> i selected my only single older one in recovery mode and it stopped at switched to closksource tsc
[17:21] <PCatinean> i think it's 14.04
[17:21] <PCatinean> lts anyway
[17:21] <PCatinean> got ssd on it tho'
[17:23] <lordcirth> PCatinean, any idea what you've done recently that could have broken it?
[17:23] <consolejazz> Wish to use checkinstall as replacement for `make install` when building program from source. Anyone have experience with checkinstall? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingEasyHowTo#Step_1:_Prep_your_system_for_building_packages
[17:24] <PCatinean> lordcirth, nothing comes to mind, it's the laptop o a colleague but i believe it was working last time
[17:24] <consolejazz> Curious about its stability/general compatibility under Ubuntu 16 LTS
[17:24] <PCatinean> maybe a forced shutdown?
[17:24] <PCatinean> also it has a ssd on it
[17:24] <lordcirth> consolejazz, try it and let us know
[17:25] <lordcirth> PCatinean, forced shutdown should not hang boot unless it happened during a kernel upgrade.
[17:25] <lordcirth> or systemd upgrade, I guess.
[17:25] <PCatinean> possibly
[17:25] <lordcirth> PCatinean, boot a LiveUSB and chroot in.
[17:25] <PCatinean> i just need a databae dump and the restt i don't care
[17:27] <lordcirth> PCatinean, ah, well do that then.  May as well reinstall 16.04 once you're done.
[17:27] <PCatinean> yeah for sure
[17:27] <PCatinean> so live cd and chroot you say
[17:27] <lordcirth> PCatinean, this a mysql database?
[17:28] <lordcirth> If the file you need doesn't actually exist yet and you need to export it first, you'll need to chroot, yeah
[17:28] <PCatinean> postgresql dump
[17:28] <PCatinean> hopefully
[17:28] <lordcirth> Right.  So chroot, dump, exit chroot, copy the file to whereever
[17:29] <PCatinean> ok let me see
[17:48] <SpawnDemonic> has anyone ever made ubuntu the os on an imac
[17:49] <lordcirth> !ask | SpawnDemonic
[17:49] <MonkeyDust> !mac | SpawnDemonic start here
[17:51] <Farioko> Hi
[17:51] <Farioko> Chrome is asking me to unlock my keyring when I start it? How to remove that crap?
[17:52] <SpawnDemonic> That is my question
[17:53] <SpawnDemonic> i've never heard of someone doing just would like to hear their perspective
[18:02] <EJIRE> Hello am in need of a coder to help update a program
[18:02] <EJIRE> I have this program i have been using i was able to crack it but now is not functioning like before http://prnt.sc/ce146k i need someone that can help me with capthca
[18:02] <ducasse> EJIRE: not something we do.
[18:02] <Shadowbird1231> hi, what kind of microphone sound mixers there are available for ubuntu? I'd like to make my mic sound quality better.
[18:03] <DJones> EJIRE: Just buy the program, then you'll get all the support you need
[18:04] <Shadowbird1231> I use mumble as my main voip program, and it given only raw mic sound. it needs tuning.
[18:07] <Farioko> Hello!
[18:07] <Farioko> Hello!
[18:07] <Farioko> Why does Chrome ask me to unluck the keyring when I open it??????
[18:07] <Farioko> ?????
[18:08] <Farioko> ?????
[18:08] <bekks> !patience | Farioko
[18:09] <EJIRE> i did
[18:11] <Farioko> Argghhhhh, this is so annoying!
[18:13] <oj> if i knew how to help you farioko i would lol
[18:13] <ducasse> Farioko: we can't tell you why chrome does anything it does, it is a closed-source program.
[18:15] <oj> fuck chrome anyway
[18:15] <ducasse> !language | oj
[18:16] <abu_shawarib> Anyone using unity?
[18:18] <abu_shawarib> Can you connect to a hidden network via NetworkManager? connect button is grayed out for me.
[18:18] <weinan> hi all
[18:19] <weinan> im new here
[18:19] <abu_shawarib> hello
[18:19] <Mishari> abu_shawarib,  yes you can connect it with le7ya network.
[18:20] <weinan> just came in to test the IRC, gtg
[18:20] <weinan> bye
[18:20] <abu_shawarib> Connect button is grayed out for me since 16.04 in that dialogue.
[18:22] <Farioko> ducasse: fking developers :( Thinking they're improving things, but they are just making things worse. Today I 'upgraded' to Ubuntu MATE 16.04, jeez what an improvement.
[18:23] <Farioko> They have just added a bunch of shitty programs, make the volume slider look like it comes from the 90s. And then there you go new release, we are so proud of it
[18:24] <Farioko> KeepassX also totally fked up.
[18:24] <ducasse> Farioko: 16.04 has been working perfectly for me, it's been a big improvement. zfs support alone has been worth it.
[18:25] <airstrike> is there a support channel for WSL?
[18:25] <airstrike> or bashonubuntuonwindows?
[18:26] <ducasse> !ubuwin | airstrike
[18:26] <Farioko> airstrike: WSL?
[18:27] <airstrike> ducasse: thanks
[18:27] <airstrike> Farioko: ^
[18:28] <airstrike> the fact that this stuff "Just Works" is mind boggling
[18:28] <airstrike> i giggle every time i run apt-get on windows
[18:28] <Farioko> what does WSL stand for? World Surf League?
[18:28] <ducasse> airstrike: why? wine works on ubuntu.
[18:28] <airstrike> Farioko: windows subsystem for linux.. a bad acronym, I know
[18:28] <airstrike> ducasse: it feels much more seamless than wine
[18:29] <airstrike> at least from the last time i tried wine
[18:29] <airstrike> which, granted, was a few years ago
[18:29] <airstrike> cygwin has become nearly obsolete overnight
[18:29] <ducasse> airstrike: yes, they're not quite the same thing. but this is offtopic here, so i'll stop.
[18:34] <dark> oi
[18:34] <dark> alguemae
[18:35] <airstrike> sim, but english only
[18:35] <airstrike> i suppose
[18:35] <dark> ow
[18:35] <dark> hi airstrike
[18:35] <airstrike> hi dark
[18:35] <dark> brazilian or not?
[18:35] <airstrike> born in brazil
[18:36] <dark> oh nice
[18:37] <dark> anyone speek portuguese here?
[18:37] <dark> alguem fala portgues?
[18:37] <ducasse> !br | dark
[18:38] <dark> anyone programming in python?
[18:38] <airstrike> lots of people
[18:38] <airstrike> if you have a question, you should simply ask
[18:39] <ducasse> dark: we don't do programming support here, try ##python
[18:43] <abu_shawarib> Is there a way to speed up the solving of reported bugs?
[18:44] <airstrike> writing a patch?
[18:44] <dark> what a good book to learn kali linux?
[18:45] <ducasse> !kali | dark
[18:45] <airstrike> dark: that has nothing to do with ubuntu
[18:46] <dark> what a good book to learn terminal and linux
[18:46] <dark> ?
[18:47] <craptalk> dark: pentesting book
[18:47] <craptalk> dark: would suit your need
[18:47] <lordcirth> dark, book?  There are good online tutorials
[18:47] <airstrike> it's the 21st century
[18:47] <ducasse> dark: on the debian wiki there is a very thorough user guide
[19:00] <MonkeyDust> a book is handy too, much more practical than online tutorials
[19:04] <Slugdude> I'm having some issues running the AMDGPU-PRO driver in Ubuntu 16.04. I followed this guide here: http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/AMDGPU-PRO-Install.aspx but upon booting, I get 'mode not supported'. If I boot in recovery mode and select failsafeX it just stops halfway, and if I select resume, it boots, but after logging in, the unity launcher and panel etc are there, all I see is the desktop background. I can acces
[19:05] <Slugdude> Can anyone help me?
[19:05] <ducasse> Slugdude: that is a beta driver, and we don't support it at all.
[19:05] <Slugdude> The unity launcher and panel are not there* my bad
[19:05] <Slugdude> It's no longer in beta, ducasse.
[19:06] <aled> aled
[19:06] <aled> s.o.s
[19:06] <aled> aled
[19:06] <aled> no no no please
[19:07] <ducasse> Slugdude: ah, ok. the driver that is supported here is the one that's in the repos. i doubt anyone here can help you much.
[19:08] <Slugdude> Ducasse, I thought fglrx was removed from the repos for 16.04.
[19:08] <ducasse> siavash: it is, there is now only radeon and amdgpu.
[19:08] <MonkeyDust> !find fglrx
[19:09] <Mishari> Abuntuuhhhh
[19:09] <janisozaur> anyone knows why launchpad refuses to change bzr-builder to git-build-recipe? It used to work, but it gets overwritten back to bzr-builder every time now
[19:10] <Everybodydothefl> Hey I have already tried reaching out for help in #ubuntu-steam, but NO ONE there is talking so I think this might be my only option. I have tried to run steam on multiple different linux distros, I am on an Asus G60J laptop with an I5 processor & Nvidia GEFORCE GTS M Cuda chipset. Every time I try to run steam I get this output: chris@chris-G60JX:~$ steam Running Steam on ubuntu 16.04 64-bit STEAM_RUNTIME is enabled automat
[19:11] <Everybodydothefl> chris@chris-G60JX:~$ steam Running Steam on ubuntu 16.04 64-bit STEAM_RUNTIME is enabled automatically Installing breakpad exception handler for appid(steam)/version(0) Xlib:  extension "NV-GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[19:11] <Everybodydothefl> Part of it was missing
[19:11] <ducasse> !paste | Everybodydothefl
[19:11] <Everybodydothefl> Ok
[19:14] <abu_shawarib> Is every page in the wiki is immutable?
[19:15] <abu_shawarib> *-is
[19:15] <ducasse> Everybodydothefl: looks to me like you need the nvidia driver, but i know nothing about steam.
[19:15] <ducasse> abu_shawarib: you need to be on the editors team.
[19:16] <Everybodydothefl> yeah & apparently it's a super obscure nvidia driver that cannot be found anywhere
[19:16] <lordcirth> Everybodydothefl, what card do you have?
[19:16] <abu_shawarib> ducasse: Is that a launchpad team?
[19:16] <Everybodydothefl> @lordcirth Geforce GTS 360M Cuda 10B
[19:17] <ducasse> abu_shawarib: yep.
[19:18] <lordcirth> Everybodydothefl, You need nvidia-340, which is in the repos
[19:18] <lordcirth> !info nvidia-340
[19:18] <rhalff> somebody happen to have a NVIDIA Corporation GM108M [GeForce 840M] and got it working correctly?
[19:19] <Exagone313> I have no problem using it with nouveau
[19:19] <dryblow> r
[19:19] <lordcirth> !info nvidia-367 | rhalff
[19:20] <lordcirth> rhalff, install the driver team PPA and install nvidia-367
[19:20] <Exagone313> Maybe you just need to extract something from the nvidia driver to read videos, I'm not sure, I don't use my laptop for that
[19:20] <lordcirth> Assuming you need the nvidia driver and not nouveau
[19:21] <Everybodydothefl> @lordcirth I tried that & it just hangs at: chris@chris-G60JX:~$ steam Running Steam on ubuntu 16.04 64-bit STEAM_RUNTIME is enabled automatically Installing breakpad exception handler for appid(steam)/version(0)
[19:22] <lordcirth> Everybodydothefl, no Steam window ever shows?
[19:23] <Everybodydothefl> Well maybe I'm being a bit impatient, but I've given it about 2 minutes & no, nothing
[19:23] <rhalff> lordcirth, appearently I need bumblebee, shall reboot :)
[19:23] <Everybodydothefl> @lordcirth Well maybe I'm being a bit impatient, but I've given it about 2 minutes & no, nothing
[19:24] <User0> @rhalff try to run steam from terminal to see the errors (if any)
[19:24] <Bashing-om> rhalff: BumbleBee is depreciated in favor of nvidia-prime . FYI .
[19:24] <rhalff> Bashing-om, ok that's what confusing me, so many articles about it, I have no clue what is the recent and best option.
[19:25] <Everybodydothefl> @Exagone313 How would I find out if I need to extract something from the drivers & how would I go about doing the extraction?
[19:25] <lordcirth> Bashing-om, s/depreciated/deprecated
[19:25] <Bashing-om> rhalff: " apt show nvidia-prime " for some gained info .
[19:26] <zt_joom> I need some help with adding a boot option in UEFI GRUB for windows 7. Am I in the right place?
[19:26] <lordcirth> Everybodydothefl, Exagone313 I've never heard of needing to "extract" anything from the drivers.
[19:26] <fishcooker> after login with the valid creds, i forcefully logout by system instantly after i see the panel on lubuntu... how to troubleshoot this... which log should i see?
[19:26] <lordcirth> fishcooker, start with /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[19:27] <Everybodydothefl> @lordcirth So I just tried to killall steam & there were'nt even any processes running. So it already killed itself while I was waiting
[19:27] <Mishari> guys I want to know something.
[19:27] <ducasse> fishcooker: if you can see the lubuntu desktop, also check ~/.xsession-errors and the dm logs.
[19:28] <Mishari> why when I install an app in linux, should be located in many files, like.. /etc /bin  /usr/bin
[19:28] <Bashing-om> Mishari: Welcome to the club .. we all want to know something .
[19:28] <Mishari> thanks bashing.
[19:29] <ducasse> Mishari: you mean "why is it not all in one dir"? that's just how linux works.
[19:29] <Mishari> yesss
[19:29] <lordcirth> Is there an ubottu for the hier?
[19:29] <Mishari> aha
[19:29] <lordcirth> Mishari, 'man hier'
[19:30] <Mishari> thanks
[19:30] <Everybodydothefl> ok so I just tried apt show nvidia-prime & got the following output: http://pastebin.com/HBybi0zC
[19:30] <Everybodydothefl> Any thoughts?
[19:30] <Mishari> that makes linux so powerful.
[19:30] <Bashing-om> Mishari: All files for any app are shared among all .. thus they must be installed where all apps can find the files .
[19:31] <fishcooker> nice try lordcirth
[19:31] <fishcooker> i've got https://bpaste.net/show/b647440cf525 ducasse
[19:31] <lordcirth> fishcooker, nothing there?
[19:32] <Everybodydothefl> @lordcirth @Bashing-om any ideas on this? http://pastebin.com/HBybi0zC
[19:32] <zt_joom> I need some help with adding a boot option in GRUB for loading windows 7. Am I in the right place? Any leads that can point me in the right direction?
[19:32] <lordcirth> Everybodydothefl, what about it?
[19:33] <Everybodydothefl> @lordcirth, anything you can glean from that output that might indicate why Steam isn't launching?
[19:33] <ducasse> fishcooker: is that .xsession-errors? that dbus message could be your problem, but check the dm logs.
[19:33] <Bashing-om> Everybodydothefl: That was for your info only .. as to the function of nvidia-prime .
[19:34] <Everybodydothefl> ah dang
[19:34] <lordcirth> zt_joom, what's the situation?  You just dual-booted?
[19:34] <Everybodydothefl> Man I wish I could figure out why this damn laptop isn't working right
[19:35] <Everybodydothefl> I've tried 11 different linux distros on this POS, and Mint 16.04 XFCE was the only one so far that actually worked
[19:35] <BillyTheKid> Hey guys. I have an issue with LVM. Whenever I type vgdisplay I get " WARNING: Device for PV <UUID> not found or rejected by a filter."
[19:35] <Bashing-om> lordcirth: Steam the only problem ? .. steam - I thibk - requires the proprietary driver . What driver is installed ? ' dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia ' .
[19:35] <zt_joom> lordcirth, I have Win7 installed on /dev/sda drive and Ubuntu installed on /dev/sdb drive. The first time I accidentally wiped the MBR of /dev/sda. Went through install again to specify GRUB to be installed on /dev/sdb and everything is working fine so far. I can boot into Ubuntu on /dev/sdb no problems but I cant figure out how to add Win7 into the GRUB boot options which is on /dev/sda.
[19:35] <BillyTheKid> that was an old drive I had. How can I remove it?
[19:37] <Everybodydothefl> My other laptops that just have Intel HD chipsets & work just fine. Apparently with Nvidia laptops, you have to have the proper drivers installed in order to install the OS properly which can't be done because you need the OS installed in order to install the drivers
[19:37] <Everybodydothefl> @_@
[19:37] <lordcirth> zt_joom, os-prober should have found Win7 automatically
[19:37] <zt_joom> lordcirty, I did use a live Win7 USB to repair the MBR for /dev/sda and I can get into windows. However, I want to use /dev/sdb (Ubuntu) GRUB to add a launch option into Win7, which is on /dev/sda.
[19:37] <lordcirth> Everybodydothefl, why would you need drivers to install?
[19:38] <Bashing-om> zt_joom: Boot ubuntu .. and execute terminal command ' sudo update-grub ' to pick up Windows and chainload windows' boot code onto the ubuntu boot menu .
[19:38] <lordcirth> zt_joom, ^
[19:38] <Everybodydothefl> @Bashing-om yeah Just Steam is the big issue on the distros that actually installed
[19:38] <fishcooker> yes im using lightdm.. i've got this https://bpaste.net/show/b33c4a0aac94 on the //var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log
[19:38] <lordcirth> zt_joom, yeah, now that you've fixed bootmgr, update-grub should find WIn7.
[19:39] <fishcooker> ducasse:
[19:39] <zt_joom> lordcirth, Bashing-om, Hmm Ok I will look into os-prober and check out update-grub. I assume I can do this on the Ubuntu drive on /dev/sdb or do I need to boot from a live disk?
[19:39] <lordcirth> zt_joom, just boot into ubuntu
[19:39] <fishcooker> nothing with EE, lordcirth
[19:40] <Everybodydothefl> @lordcirth, It's the only thing I can think of. Steam OS, Zorin & Pinguy couldnt even get past the loader, nor could UA Ubuntu, Ubuntu ultimate installed but failed to start session at boot, xubuntu voyager, Sparky, Ubuntu studio & Play linux all had the same issue where steam hangs
[19:40] <lordcirth> Everybodydothefl, do any of those have CLI installs?
[19:41] <zt_joom> lordcirth, Bashing-om, Thanks for your input guys, I'll try it out and let you guys know what happens.
[19:41] <Bashing-om> zt_joom: :)
[19:41] <Everybodydothefl> @lordcirth I don't believe so, they are mainly Ubuntu / debian forks & only seemed to have the live cd, or direct gui install options
[19:41] <eduardas> Mindaugai, aliooo
[19:41] <ducasse> fishcooker: i can see the session just shut down, but no trace of why.
[19:42] <lordcirth> Everybodydothefl, well, you could try something that does, like Ubuntu Minimal, and see if that works better.
[19:42] <fishcooker> i think there is problem with DM thing
[19:43] <Everybodydothefl> @lordcirth Only thing I can think of is that the GPU was creating snags that prevented the OS from a proper install that could only be remedied by having the drivers already installed making the GPU fully functional at the time of install
[19:43] <Everybodydothefl> Which is impossible
[19:44] <lordcirth> Everybodydothefl, well, not impossible.  You could always make a new install USB with the drivers installed.
[19:44] <tgm4883> installing drivers during install isn't impossible
[19:45] <Everybodydothefl> @lordcirth Well I still have Elemetry OS to try, so Imma give that a shot. I prefer to have about 3 distros on a machine so I have a fallback & some variety, but if Elementry fails too, I'll either just put Mint 16.04 XFCE on the whole dang drive, or dual boot it with ... ugh... windows
[19:46] <adnan> Hi every buddy, please tell me the best alternate for Internet Download Manager (IDM) in wondows for Linux Mint
[19:46] <adnan> *windows
[19:46] <MonkeyDust> !mint
[19:47] <Everybodydothefl> I've already spent a few days on this piece of crap, & have other LOWER grade laptops that work 10 times better. I'm half tempted to just put windows back on it & hock it on Craigslist
[19:48] <Everybodydothefl> Reason for selling? This high end gamilg laptop just isn't Linux friendly & I'd sooner use inferior hardware than go back to using Windows
[19:48] <ducasse> Everybodydothefl: if you're not even running ubuntu proper, we can't really help you as we don't know what they've changed.
[19:49] <Everybodydothefl> @Ducasse Understandable. I'll come back in a bit & let you guys know how it turns out
[19:49] <BillyTheKid> When I type vgdisplay I get "WARNING: Device for PV SOME_UUID_HERE not found or rejected by a filter.". This is about an old disk that I removed. How can I resolve this?
[19:53] <damolima> How can I get bash filename autocomplete to be case insensitive?
[19:54] <ducasse> damolima: 'set completion-ignore-case on' in ~/.inputrc
[19:56] <ducasse> damolima: then reload, default is C-x C-r
[20:00] <damolima> ducasse: That worked, thanks.
[20:01] <ducasse> damolima: np. see the bash and/or readline man pages for other options.
[20:10] <Slugdude> I'm having issues with the amdgpu driver in Ubuntu 16.04 now... Elements of the unity desktop that are supposed to be transparent are not, like the panel/dash, and any games seem to crash upon launch with no error message in their logs.
[20:11] <Slugdude> ducasse: can you help?
[20:11] <maricela> hola
[20:12] <ducasse> Slugdude: sorry, no. my thought is that amdgpu is very new, and might still need work. you could file a bug, would help if you are able to narrow down the cause.
[20:13] <mendisare> hello
[20:13] <yorwos> running ubuntu studio 16.04 xfce. had kubuntu-desktop to try kwin over xfce. i have purged kwin+kubuntu-desktop and i reboot and still kwin --replace switches to kwin ?!? i am deleting saved sessions but it seems its being constantly autosaved for some reason , any ideas ?
[20:13] <Slugdude> ducasse: pretty hard to narrow it down when there's literally no error messages
[20:14] <Slugdude> "Process crashed with exitcode 0" is not very helpful.
[20:15] <ducasse> Slugdude: yes, i saw that, but you could try looking at the x logs, for example.
[20:16] <ducasse> Slugdude: i mean, what do you expect the devs to do? "game x just closes without error" tells them nothing, and they don't have your system for testing.
[20:16] <yorwos> it was kwin-x11 after all got it
[20:18] <AphelionZ> heyo, has anybody experienced this issue where geolocation isnt working in Firefox on ubuntu?
[20:18] <AphelionZ> I just tested it on my wife's computer (windows) and it works fine in firefox, but on my ubuntu laptop its broken
[20:18] <Slugdude> I'm tempted to go and scream at AMD support but I don't think that will go over well.
[20:18] <Metamorphosis> why do some distros can access windows partitions in live cd/usb mode and others do not have ? Ubuntu cannot access my windows partitions while a small distro named Slitaz easily does that. why is that?
[20:19] <MonkeyDust> Slugdude  we, or the devs, need *something* to work with, to start looking for a solution
[20:19] <bekks> Metamorphosis: Because of the shipped kernel modules.
[20:20] <k1l> Metamorphosis: did you turn off the fake "fast reboot" feature that blocks ntfs partitions to be mounted form non windows OS?
[20:20] <bq> i am behind GWF. so i used sockproxy to bypass it. now i can access the blocked urls such as facebook.com and google.com. but i still could not access player.google.com. what reason?
[20:21] <Metamorphosis> k1l this is a somewhat old laptop which still uses bios. it was released in 2009 and has Windows 7 home premium 64 bit on it.
[20:21] <ducasse> bq: not really an ubuntu problem, maybe try ##networking.
[20:22] <k1l> Metamorphosis: that is not a uefi feature. its a windows feature that dosnt shut down properly now but instead keeps the partitions in a hibernation state which the linux ntfs module doesnt want to mount to not corrupt data.
[20:22] <k1l> Metamorphosis: what is the error you get when you want to mount?
[20:23] <Zimri> Can someone help me with something?
[20:23] <ducasse> !ask | Zimri
[20:23] <bekks> Zimri: That strongly depends on what you need help with.
[20:24] <|WaV|> Not necessarily an Ubuntu question, but I'm trying to connect to a FTP with TLS in curl and I get the following error: curl: (35) gnutls_handshake() failed: Handshake failed. I also get a similar error in lftp. Anyone know what causes this?
[20:25] <Zimri> Alright so I deleted a virtual machine from my list on VMWare Workstation 12 and then I deleted the iso only to realize I did things wrong and didn't get the I dont know what you call it but like the storage set for the virtual machine. I didn't delete it and it was like 45GB so I would really like to know I way I can delete it.
[20:25] <Zimri> Sorry if that is confusing.
[20:25] <Seveas> |WaV|: the server's ssl setup is broken.
[20:26] <gajuith> Hi, is there anyone that is familiar with the i915 video driver issues with 16.04? I've attempted the fix at https://aboutsimon.com/blog/2016/07/20/Ubuntu-16.04-external-monitor-flickering-and-turning-off-on-intel-i915.html which did not correct the issue.
[20:27] <ducasse> Zimri: just delete the image file(s) from wherever vmware stores them, where that is is a question for vmware support.
[20:27] <Zimri> @ducasse Do you know where to find that?
[20:27] <Zimri> Sorry im all new to this
[20:27] <|WaV|> Seveas: I have the Windows binary of cURL and when running the same command I am able to connect.
[20:28] <ducasse> Zimri: no, sorry. try looking at where your other images are stored.
[20:29] <Zimri> @ducasse, All the things I can find are for if you still have the iso :/
[20:29] <ducasse> |WaV|: they may have different crypto algorithms enabled.
[20:30] <WaV> ducasse: Is there anyway I can find that out for sure/match the two?
[20:30] <ducasse> Zimri: try #vmware
[20:30] <Zimri> Found it! :D
[20:30] <Zimri> It was C:\Users\Zimri\Documents\Virtual Machines
[20:31] <ducasse> Zimri: if you are running on windows, then why on earth are you asking here?
[20:31] <reisio> ffr: find ~/ -iname '*virt*'
[20:32] <Zimri> @ducasse, Because I had ubuntu on a virtual machine to test it out first.
[20:32] <reisio> d-u-c-TAB
[20:32] <k1l> Zimri: that is a "vmware on windows" issue. not an ubuntu issue. but its solved anyway now.
[20:33] <ducasse> WaV: it might be trying to use ssl3, which is disabled in 16.04 aiui.
[20:34] <|WaV|> Yes, it is. Any way to enable it?
[20:34] <ducasse> |WaV|: no, it's insecure.
[20:35] <|WaV|> What is the alternative?
[20:36] <ducasse> |WaV|: you could try forcing tls with --tlsv1.2, but it might need to be enabled on the server
[20:38] <|WaV|> ducasse: curl: (35) gnutls_handshake() failed: An unexpected TLS packet was received.
[20:38] <|WaV|> :(
[20:40] <jafostes> Hello
[20:40] <ducasse> |WaV|: no other ideas than fixing the server, which is the Right Thing To Do.
[20:40] <Slugdude> Ducasse: The graphics card I have is an RX 470, and i'm currently on kernel 4.4. 4.7 lists RX 400 series support as a new feature so maybe I need the new kernel. I'm going to try it.
[20:41] <|WaV|> ducasse: Ok, thank you.
[20:41] <ducasse> !mainline | Slugdude
[20:41] <ducasse> |WaV|: remember to disable ssl3, it really should not be used anymore.
[20:42] <|WaV|> Within cURL or Ubuntu?
[20:42] <ducasse> |WaV|: on the server.
[20:43] <|WaV|> Ok, I don't manage the server anyway, so no can do.
[20:44] <ducasse> |WaV|: you can check out the other crypto options in the curl man page to see if you find something that works, but if you don't manage the server there might not be much you can do. sorry.
[20:45] <streulma> A good evening everyone, are there known bugs with Nvidia 950M? Which driver is the best and install from PPA? The internal from Ubuntu gives some problems.
[20:46] <Slugdude> Well, 4.7 has the same issues
[20:46] <streulma> Slugdude, you mean my question?
[20:46] <Slugdude> No
[20:46] <streulma> oh ok
[20:46] <Slugdude> @streulma
[20:47] <ducasse> Slugdude: as has been said, you could file a bug, but if you don't give them something to work with they can't do much...
[20:47] <streulma> with Ubuntu Unity 16.04.1 with all updates, Unity crashes with bad fonts, graphics gone bad
[20:49] <Slugdude> *I* have nothing to work with.
[20:49] <BillyTheKid> Is there anyone who could help me with LVM? I possibly lost my data :(
[20:50] <ducasse> Slugdude: i know that, we don't either. i just can't see how we can help. did you check x and kernel logs?
[20:51] <Slugdude> Can you point me where I can find those?
[20:51] <Bashing-om> streulma: Version 367 : http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/106780/en-us .
[20:51] <ducasse> Slugdude: /var/log
[20:51] <BillyTheKid> Bashing-om: could you please help? :(
[20:51] <BillyTheKid> I know LVM is not your thing...
[20:52] <Bashing-om> BillyTheKid: Nope, not me .. I have absolutely no LVM experience .
[20:52] <ducasse> BillyTheKid: what did you do?
[20:53] <streulma> LVM... Fedora uses LVM, and I think I used it is a volume group, I think like software raid ?
[20:53] <BillyTheKid> ducasse: I tried to move my data from an old disk to a new. That worked fine. I did it with mirroring to keep the data in both disks
[20:54] <streulma> what's your question already BillyTheKid?
[20:54] <BillyTheKid> currently I am in the situation where my vg is missing,
[20:54] <BillyTheKid> my lv are there
[20:55] <ikonia> impossible
[20:55] <streulma> vg volume group, lv logical volume
[20:55] <ducasse> BillyTheKid: well, how did that happen? again, what did you do?
[20:55] <ikonia> if the volume groups are not there - the volume can't exist
[20:55] <BillyTheKid> http://pastebin.com/Jkzc0c1B
[20:55] <|WaV|> ducasse: Not sure why/what's different, but I just downloaded ftp-ssl and it does the job as it should.
[20:55] <ikonia> BillyTheKid: thats physical volumes
[20:56] <ikonia> BillyTheKid: why don't you explain the problen you think you have rather than guessing at the situation
[20:56] <ducasse> |WaV|: it's linked against libssl, not gnutls
[20:56] <streulma> BillyTheKid, pastebin fdisk -l
[20:56] <BillyTheKid> sorry guys I try to explain
[20:56] <BillyTheKid> I run individually on the two disks, vgreduce --removemissing after removing the mirroring
[20:56] <BillyTheKid> first disk I tried it, it worked fine. rebooted it and again worked fine.
[20:57] <BillyTheKid> I plugged in the second disk, did the same but then I could not boot it
[20:57] <ikonia> plugged in the second disk ?
[20:57] <ikonia> it's a mirror - both should be there
[20:57] <ikonia> not one unplugged
[20:57] <ikonia> BillyTheKid: just tell us the actual problem as it standard now
[20:57] <BillyTheKid> I removed the mirroring
[20:57] <ikonia> what is the problem you currently have
[20:58] <BillyTheKid> I can't mount my disks,
[20:58] <ikonia> BillyTheKid: ok - how are you trying to mount them
[20:58] <BillyTheKid> Fdisk:
[20:58] <BillyTheKid> fdisk: /dev/sdb2       514048 937703087 937189040 446.9G 8e Linux LVM
[20:58] <ikonia> fdisk doesn't mount a disk
[20:58] <BillyTheKid> hold one mate
[20:59] <ikonia> BillyTheKid: tell us how you are trying to mount it
[20:59] <streulma> normally: mount /dev/sdx /mountpoint
[20:59] <BillyTheKid> I type: /dev/sdb2
[20:59] <BillyTheKid> mount: unknown filesystem type 'LVM2_member'
[20:59] <ikonia> BillyTheKid: /dev/sdb2 is not a command
[20:59] <streulma> I now a raid system you can rebuild
[21:00] <streulma> I doesn't know if it is the same with LVM
[21:00] <ikonia> show us the exact command you are using to mount the disk
[21:00] <thatoneguy99> anyone willing to help me creat a init.d script
[21:00] <BillyTheKid> http://pastebin.com/Jkzc0c1B
[21:00] <BillyTheKid> jesus with these copy pastes :
[21:00] <BillyTheKid> sudo mount /dev/sdb2 /mnt
[21:00] <BillyTheKid> this si the command
[21:00] <BillyTheKid> sorry guys nerve rack...
[21:01] <ikonia> BillyTheKid: so thats not going to work as thats not a logical volume
[21:01] <ikonia> thats a physical device
[21:01] <ikonia> so, can you pastebin the output of "sudo vgdisplay -v" into a pastebin please.
[21:01] <BillyTheKid>  No volume groups found.
[21:01] <Slugdude> ducasse: found "[drm:amdgpu_init [amdgpu]] *ERROR* VGACON disables amdgpu kernel modesetting" in dmesg.
[21:02] <ikonia> BillyTheKid: ok, so "sudo vgscan"
[21:02] <BillyTheKid> " Reading all physical volumes.  This may take a while..."
[21:02] <BillyTheKid> then i did again vgdisplay and nothing
[21:03] <ducasse> Slugdude: ok, which kernel is this?
[21:03] <ikonia> ok - so you haven on volume groups
[21:03] <ikonia> BillyTheKid: so what happened to the volume groups ?
[21:03] <Slugdude> 4.8
[21:03] <BillyTheKid> I have no idea what happened
[21:03] <Slugdude> Not sure what build exactly.
[21:03] <ducasse> Slugdude: uname -r
[21:03] <ikonia> BillyTheKid: did you reduce the volume group to no physical devices ?
[21:03] <BillyTheKid> maybe
[21:04] <BillyTheKid> I tried to remove disks that where missing
[21:04] <Slugdude> 4.8.0-0408000rc4-generic
[21:04] <Bitnova> i accidentally configured gufw as it appeared in settings before it finished installing properly. would gufw still be working correctly or did something get messed up?
[21:04] <ikonia> BillyTheKid: I suspect you're removing more than the missing disks
[21:04] <BillyTheKid> vgreduce --removemissing
[21:04] <Slugdude> Pretty sure I need >= 4.7 because that's when Polaris support was added.
[21:04] <BillyTheKid> but I did it individually by plugging each disk separately
[21:04] <BillyTheKid> ikonia: did I lose allmy data?
[21:05] <ikonia> BillyTheKid: I don't understand why you're removed the disks
[21:05] <ducasse> Slugdude: imo all you can do is file a bug, very few people here have any experience with amdgpu.
[21:05] <BillyTheKid> ikonia: I have was in an old to new disk copy of data.
[21:05] <ikonia> BillyTheKid: yes, but why did you disconnect the disk - then plug them back in one at a time doing a "remove"
[21:06] <BillyTheKid> ikonia: i followed a guide that described the mirroring method. first you mirror them, then you remove the mirroring
[21:06] <ikonia> that makes no sense
[21:06] <bekks> BillyTheKid: All you would have needed was a lvconvert --splitmirrors.
[21:07] <ikonia> BillyTheKid: yeah, you remove the mirroring, you don't unplug the disks then plug them back in removing them one at a time
[21:07] <ikonia> BillyTheKid: I suspect you've reduced the volume group to no devices
[21:07] <BillyTheKid> bekks: I run that
[21:07] <bekks> BillyTheKid: No, you did far more.
[21:07] <ikonia> as if you didn't a vgscan would show the meta data on the disks for the old volume group
[21:07] <BillyTheKid> is there any way to recover the data?
[21:07] <bekks> BillyTheKid: From your backup.
[21:07] <BillyTheKid> that was my backup :(
[21:08] <ikonia> raid is not a backup
[21:08] <bekks> Then you still have the original data on another machine.
[21:08] <BillyTheKid> is there anything else i can do?
[21:08] <chutney> are there any *nix utils which can safely zero-out unused sectors on a windows drive?
[21:08] <BillyTheKid> can with your help validate that indeed I lost everything?
[21:09] <bekks> BillyTheKid: You did. Maybe some company like KrollOntrack can recover stuff, but you did a real good job.
[21:10] <ducasse> BillyTheKid: if you have the original data, what is the problem?
[21:10] <BillyTheKid> i don't have the original data
[21:10] <ikonia> ducasse: I don't think he does, when he reduced the volume, he's removed the original disk too
[21:10] <ducasse> BillyTheKid: you said this was a backup
[21:10] <BillyTheKid> ok let me explain what I did
[21:10] <ikonia> ducasse: he backed up by mirroring a disk inside the VG - then reduced the VG to no disks
[21:11] <ikonia> looks like he made some odd "make a mirror and pull the disks, then put each one back in one at a time removing it from the volume group" approach
[21:11] <ducasse> ikonia: ok, could he recover from the lvm backups?
[21:11] <ikonia> ducasse: there are no lvm backups
[21:11] <ikonia> he's reduced the volume to no voluems
[21:11] <ikonia> so the logical metadata is gone
[21:11] <ducasse> ikonia: /etc/lvm/backups?
[21:11] <ikonia> nah
[21:11] <ikonia> vgscan shows nothing that matches
[21:11] <BillyTheKid> that is on the vm
[21:11] <ikonia> you could try an import
[21:11] <ikonia> but you'll get nothing in my opinion
[21:12] <BillyTheKid> I can plug in only one hdd on my laptop. the other one is plugged in externally. I moved all the data as you said by mirroring, then removed the mirroring, rebooted and tested the new hard disk that I have all my data.
[21:13] <BillyTheKid> it was complaining about a missing device, which I removed with the command that I posted earlier. I rebooted and then everything was working fine
[21:13] <ducasse> BillyTheKid: i agree with ikonia and bekks, you'll need professional help to recover data.
[21:13] <BillyTheKid> check out what I write :(
[21:13] <ikonia> i've got a fair idea what you've done based on what you've written
[21:13] <bekks> BillyTheKid: What did you do after everything worked fine?
[21:14] <ikonia> not %100 sure, but I believe I've got a soli guess
[21:14] <BillyTheKid> what I did was I completely removed my new disk from the pc, plugged in the OLD harddisk and tried to boot it. I just wanted to see if I have a copy on the old disk
[21:14] <bekks> BillyTheKid: So the OLD disk isnt working, but the new one is?
[21:15] <BillyTheKid> it could not boot because it was seeing the NEW disk. so I booted with live cd, run again the vgreduce.
[21:15] <BillyTheKid> No that is the thing
[21:15] <ikonia> it won't "see" the new disk
[21:15] <BillyTheKid> now none of them work
[21:15] <ikonia> it can't "see" the new disk
[21:15] <ikonia> you've unplugged it
[21:15] <bekks> Or he justs didnt.
[21:15] <BillyTheKid> guys I tried with both of them. I can;t find any vg in there
[21:15] <bekks> That would explain the entire loss of data.
[21:15] <ikonia> I know what' she's done, he's tried to remove the missing disk message by reducing the volume group and it's removed the missing disk (which was the working one that wasn't plugged in as he's booting from the old disk"
[21:16] <ikonia> he's then put the new disk in - booted it, but it's removed all the LVM metadata so it doens't know about it
[21:16] <ikonia> so his data is gone
[21:16] <bekks> Ack.
[21:17] <BillyTheKid> but I did this individually  to each disk.
[21:17] <BillyTheKid> how the hell did it remove all the data from both?
[21:17] <ikonia> because you did it on each disk
[21:17] <bekks> So you removed all metadata from all disks.
[21:17] <ikonia> individually
[21:17] <Slugdude> OK, I have a baaaad feeling about this: http://imgur.com/MYy7Rbp
[21:18] <BillyTheKid> yes but they were NOT plugged in at the same time, except during the data transfer
[21:18] <lordcirth> Slugdude, yeah that's not good.  tried booting a previous kernel?
[21:18] <ikonia> yes, but you kept plugging them in and running the reduce command
[21:18] <BillyTheKid> ikonia: the two disks where not mirrored
[21:19] <ikonia> so ?
[21:19] <BillyTheKid> I run the reduce command on the new, then reboot it and it still worked
[21:19] <ikonia> you plugged them in and typed reduce
[21:19] <BillyTheKid> then I unplugged it and put the old disk. did the same
[21:19] <BillyTheKid> how could this possibly affect both disks?
[21:19] <ikonia> yes, so you reduced it again
[21:20] <ikonia> because you plug in the disk and type reduce
[21:20] <Slugdude> Other kernels give me a panic
[21:20] <ikonia> then you plug in the next disk and type redue
[21:20] <BillyTheKid> where do the lvm data are stored?
[21:20] <ikonia> so you lost your metadata
[21:20] <ikonia> on the disks
[21:20] <ducasse> BillyTheKid: you are screwed, essentially.
[21:20] <ikonia> and in the lvmtab
[21:20] <Slugdude> All I did was sudo apt update
[21:20] <BillyTheKid> ikonia: just to understand what the heck happened. When i reduced the 1st disk (new)
[21:20] <Slugdude> :(
[21:20] <BillyTheKid> and I rebooted. why did it work?
[21:21] <BillyTheKid> the old disk was not connected
[21:21] <bekks> BillyTheKid: It worked because one disk was still there.
[21:21] <ikonia> BillyTheKid: because you had not reduced that disk out of the lvm
[21:21] <BillyTheKid> which disk was there?
[21:21] <bekks> BillyTheKid: The one you booted.
[21:22] <BillyTheKid> bekks: new disk, run reduce (to remove the old disk), reboot, still works
[21:22] <BillyTheKid> no old disk plugged in.
[21:22] <BillyTheKid> I am using an external cable. because it's a laptop
[21:23] <SonikkuAmerica> My location: Johnson City, United States
[21:24] <BillyTheKid> bekks, ikonia: guys I do apprecaite your help. Thanks a lot for atleast pointing out what the heck I did
[21:24] <bekks> BillyTheKid: Good luck, and hopefully you will get a small bill from the company restoring your data.
[21:25] <BillyTheKid> bekks:  can you just explain me one last thing?
[21:25] <ducasse> could he recover some of it with testdisk/photorec?
[21:25] <ducasse> never tried it on lvm.
[21:25] <ikonia> dracarys: no, due to it being lvm
[21:25] <BillyTheKid> only 1 disk is plugged in on my laptop at a time, I had the new disk in, run reduce and rebooted it
[21:25] <BillyTheKid> it worked normally
[21:26] <ikonia> ducasse: the data it scattered and there is no real partition table to match it up to
[21:26]  * dracarys looks at ikonia 
[21:26] <BillyTheKid> why the heck does not now?
[21:26] <bekks> BillyTheKid: Yeah, KrollOntrack can be reached under: 800.872.2599  :)
[21:26] <ducasse> ikonia: i see.
[21:26] <BillyTheKid> bekks: I can't afford a company man
[21:27] <BillyTheKid> I ask to ensure that indeed there is nothing else i can do, because it does not seem normal mate.
[21:27] <Humorousone> Hello
[21:27] <BillyTheKid> the new disk was working and it was completely unplugged when I reduced the old disk
[21:27] <Ben64> i bet photorec would get some stuff at least
[21:27] <BillyTheKid> are you guys sure I lost everything?
[21:27] <bekks> Yes.
[21:28] <Humorousone> I have some weirdness with audio on this laptop. I can hear white noise and a whine when headphones are plugged in. Muting the audio fixes it.
[21:28] <Ben64> BillyTheKid: but then you reduced the new disk, right?
[21:28] <BillyTheKid> Ben64: I reduced the old disk afterwards
[21:29] <BillyTheKid> with the new disk completely unplugged
[21:29] <Ben64> but you reduced both of them you said
[21:29] <BillyTheKid> yes individually
[21:29] <bekks> And then you connected both disks and booted, and each of them knew "I need to update the metadata of the other one to remove it".
[21:29] <bekks> And both were gone.
[21:29] <BillyTheKid> I can't pluggin both of them at the same time
[21:29] <BillyTheKid> because it is a laptop
[21:32] <bekks> BillyTheKid: Whatever you did there, essentially you have no disk containing valid data anymore. Data is gone.
[21:32] <BillyTheKid> guys guys, I plugged in the old one and I see the volume group
[21:32] <reisio> gj
[21:33] <BillyTheKid> http://pastebin.com/DcCLXLQQ
[21:33] <BillyTheKid> but when I do: sudo mount /dev/sdb5 /mnt/
[21:33] <BillyTheKid> sudo mount /dev/sdb5 /mnt/
[21:33] <BillyTheKid> mount: unknown filesystem type 'LVM2_member'
[21:33] <ducasse> BillyTheKid: sdb5 is not an lv
[21:33] <bekks> thats not trying to mount a volume.
[21:33] <bekks> sdb5 is a PV.
[21:34] <BillyTheKid> can we validate that I lost the data from here too?
[21:34] <BillyTheKid> what do I type?
[21:34] <bekks> mount the lv.
[21:35] <BillyTheKid> bekks: how?
[21:35] <bekks> by finding its name using lvdisplay
[21:35] <BillyTheKid> lvdisplay is empty
[21:36] <bekks> Even with -C ?
[21:36] <BillyTheKid> es
[21:36] <BillyTheKid> yes
[21:36] <bekks> Then there are no volumes to be mounted.
[21:36] <BillyTheKid> let me check if on the new drive I have the volume
[21:36] <BillyTheKid> the old disk has the group info
[21:37] <bekks> BillyTheKid: Which group info?
[21:37] <BillyTheKid> http://pastebin.com/DcCLXLQQ
[21:37] <bekks> And thats not giving you information about the LV.
[21:38] <riqj> hello everyone, when I add a keyring to the keyrings folder, it used to be shown in the keyrings program as soon as I restarted it. since 15.10. or so, it is not shown unless I restart my system. is there a way to enable this without restarting the computer??
[21:39] <Penunbra> hi
[21:39] <BillyTheKid> so bekks you are 100% I lost everything right? no need to run anything, validate stuff etc
[21:39] <BillyTheKid> correct?
[21:39] <bekks> BillyTheKid: Look at lvdisplay.
[21:39] <xkm> hy !
[21:39] <bekks> IF you can see volumes there and mount them, your data is not gone
[21:39] <BillyTheKid> bekks: completely empty\
[21:40] <bekks> ^^
[21:40] <BassiT> hi all
[21:40] <xkm> any one now how i use armitage ! i have many problems ! :v
[21:41] <BillyTheKid> \query bekks dude sorry for wasting your time... I really appreciate it that you tried to help
[21:41] <ducasse> riqj: resrart gnome-keyring-daemon or whatever it's called, maybe.
[21:41] <bekks> BillyTheKid: you're welcome :)
[21:41] <BillyTheKid> just wanted to make sure I f*cked it competely beyond recognition
[21:42] <bekks> BillyTheKid: the part of recognition is a job for a professional data recovery company now.
[21:42] <Humorousone> ah I think I sorted my audio issue
[21:42] <riqj> ducasse, you rock! it did the trick, thank you!
[21:42] <BillyTheKid> bekks: I can't afford professional help. I'll try to scavage data from here and there..
[21:42] <riqj> I hadn't thought about ending the process
[21:42] <Humorousone> loopback audio was on by default. I had to adjust it in alsamixer
[21:42] <ducasse> riqj: np :)
[21:42] <newshound68> possibility for looking a dick here, but i am picking up a 'cheng hongjian' on my local home ip address list. have i been hacked by a chinaman?
[21:43] <BillyTheKid> bekks please one last question/clarification to make sure there is nothing i can do. ok?
[21:43] <Humorousone> BillyTheKid: You are part of the reason this IRC channel is awesome
[21:43] <Humorousone> ;)
[21:43] <Guest55588> Iḿ Rafa - how are you?
[21:45] <BillyTheKid> bekks: Just want to clarify that on my laptop I can connect 1 disk at a time. So when I finished copying the data (using external cable), I disconnected the old disk, booted the new one. Everything worked fine. I reduced the group as I told you earlier. Then rebooted and everything worked. Then I removed the hdd from the laptop.
[21:45] <bekks> BillyTheKid: How did you copy data when you are not able to connect source AND target at the same time?
[21:45] <BillyTheKid> bekks: then I plugged in the old disk and I f*cked up apparently. So the question is How did the new disk got messed up when it was not connected?
[21:46] <bekks> BillyTheKid: And how often will you ask the same thing again? Your data IS gone. You just found out thtat it is
[21:46] <BillyTheKid> bekks: I copied them with external cable. Which at he time of "reduce operations" it was not connected.
[21:46] <purpleidea> i can't seem to get mp4 playback in totem working in 16.04 -- works fine in vlc though. What package/repo am I missing? I tried the common things from google.
[21:47] <riqj> good night, ciao everyone!
[21:47] <riqj> or day :)
[21:47] <bazhang> purpleidea, why not use smplayer for that
[21:47] <Guest55588> ciao
[21:47] <purpleidea> bazhang: i want to use totem
[21:47] <BillyTheKid> bekks: I just want to make sure you understand what I did...
[21:48] <BillyTheKid> i don't want to start over if I can still save the situation...
[21:48] <bazhang> purpleidea, could you confrim it works in smplayer
[21:48] <krastavac> can you install pc ubuntu on android phone natively with all hw and drivers like wifi functioning?
[21:48] <bekks> BillyTheKid: Yes, we did. You messed up noth disks. And you investigated (just a few minutes ago), that you really messed up both disks, since there are no LV anymore.
[21:48] <zykotick9> purpleidea: good luck with totem...  i'm with bazhang on this as well.  i actually use mpv myself, but i know that's not for everyone ;)
[21:48] <bekks> BillyTheKid: So what do you expect me to say? :)
[21:48] <bazhang> krastavac, perhaps try #ubuntu-touch for that
[21:49] <BillyTheKid> bekks: got it... thanks mate
[21:49] <krastavac> no i want pc ubuntu for low disipation server
[21:49] <bazhang> krastavac, you just said on a phone
[21:50] <krastavac> phone has low dissipation
[21:50] <Guest55588> Ich wünsche euch allen noch eine gute Nacht oder Tag, wenn ihr z.B. in den Staaten seit -good night - Rafa
[21:50] <bazhang> krastavac, then ask in the channel I gave you
[21:51] <newshound68> so i looked up the mac address ...
[21:52] <bazhang> newshound68, thats more an issue for ##security
[21:56] <michael__> hello
[21:58] <reisio> 'lo mich
[21:58] <OerHeks> 'lo reisio
[21:59] <reisio> ALLO
[22:01] <krastavac> can you run docker on ubuntu-touch?
[22:04] <OerHeks> krastavac, time to join #ubuntu-touch and ask there, but i guess the answer is no.
[22:06] <Sentreen> Hello, I'm trying to install the php-zeroc-ice package, which I can find online (https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/xenial/+package/php-zeroc-ice), however, apt keeps on saying it cannot locate `php-zeroc-ice`.
[22:06] <Sentreen> Am I doing something wrong? I'm on Xenial
[22:08] <OerHeks> !info php-zeroc-ice
[22:08] <OerHeks> last version was wily ??? >> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/zeroc-ice/3.5.1-6ubuntu2
[22:08] <Bashing-om> Sentreen: Did yo "update' to make the system aware ' sudo apt update ' after adding the source for php-zeroc-ice ?
[22:09] <Pici> Sentreen: See https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/zeroc-ice/+bug/1566572
[22:10] <Sentreen> Okay, so it seems I forgot how to read when looking at launchpad.net, I does not help that most of apt is still magic for me :).
[22:11] <Sentreen> So if I understand it correctly I can add the willy version to the sources apt searches and install it that way?
[22:11] <OerHeks> Sentreen, the problem is: only zeroc ICE 3.7.x will support PHP7.0.
[22:12] <JackMayol> hi guys
[22:13] <Sentreen> Ah, so I'm out of luck until they decide to add it upstream?
[22:13] <OerHeks> Sentreen, i think you can build it yourself https://github.com/zeroc-ice/ice/tree/master/php
[22:14] <OerHeks> Sentreen, not sure, maybe Pici got a better answer
[22:14] <JackMayol> I have 226k files in a folder and can't use grep anymore as the "argument list is too long". To make some free space I'd want to delete every file that hasn't been modified in the last 473 days. What command should I use for that?
[22:15] <OerHeks> JackMayol, see this example, older than one year > http://askubuntu.com/questions/413529/delete-files-older-than-one-year-on-linux
[22:15] <Sentreen> Okay, I was hoping apt could solve it for me, so I thought I'd ask it here first
[22:15] <Sentreen> Thanks for the pointers :)
[22:16] <JackMayol> OerHeks it should be about when the files has last been modified and not created
[22:17] <JackMayol> as I am not sure what "days old" means, if it's when it has been created or modified
[22:18] <kevchn> hello
[22:18] <OerHeks> JackMayol, you need the mtime > http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-finding-files-by-date/
[22:19] <jkmiller> hello
[22:19] <kevchn> HELLO
[22:19] <jkmiller> knickers
[22:19] <kevchn> THIS FEELS GOOD
[22:19] <kevchn> undewear
[22:19] <JackMayol> ok cool, thanks OerHeks
[22:19] <kevchn> no problem
[22:19] <MrHall> hi guys
[22:20] <MrHall> is eclipse.org off?
[22:20] <MrHall> y install a new pc today and i cant join
[22:21] <OerHeks> MrHall, yes, website is down > http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/eclipse.org/
[22:22] <k1l_> MrHall: ask #eclipse
[22:27] <User0> any good antivirus for ubuntu?
[22:27] <OerHeks> !antivirus
[22:27] <Nukien> Weird situation - using mdadm in a script referencing disks in /dev/disk/by-id/... that fails with a "No such file or directory".
[22:27] <Nukien> Yet the exact same command from the cmdline works fine.
[22:27] <OerHeks> antivirus is useless today, monitoring files and services is more reliable
[22:28] <Nukien> For some reason the script can't follow the symlink
[22:28] <User0> thnks
[22:28] <JackMayol> so, only 184k files remaining in the folder woohoo :)  grep takes ages though when I do this for example: grep -i 'username="jonathan2345"'  *.profile even though a while back (with the same amount of files) it was much faster. My knowledge is not good enough to have an idea about what could make it so slow. It will probably takes several minutes
[22:30] <OerHeks> JackMayol, maybe a filemanager like 'mc' midnight commander can do it swiftly
[22:31] <JackMayol> OerHeks ok will check.
[22:31] <lordcirth> JackMayol, did you already delete all the pre-473 days files?
[22:31] <dreamer__> hey
[22:31] <JackMayol> lordcirth yes
[22:32] <JackMayol> else I wouldnt have been able to make a grep command at all because of "argument list too long"
[22:32] <lordcirth> JackMayol, you could try grep -F and see if that's faster.
[22:33] <lordcirth> JackMayol, also, grep can be given a directory, so in future if bash's '*' expands to too long a string, you can call grep -r  on '.' for the same result.
[22:34] <JackMayol> ah ok
[22:47] <Nexus> Hey, I'm so new I don't know what to ask.  Where might I start learning?
[22:47] <Bashing-om> !manual | Nexus
[22:48] <Nexus> ok I'll start there thx
[22:49] <Bashing-om> Nexus: :) .. We are here to help .
[22:49] <OerHeks> Help, we are here.
[22:52] <Nexus> I notice it is for ubuntu 16 but I have 15.04. How do I update to 16.04 from the one I have?
[22:53] <OerHeks> Nexus, 15.04 > 15.10 > 16.04 lts .. i would do a fresh install
[22:53] <OerHeks> else follow this EOL guide ..
[22:54] <OerHeks> !eolupgrade
[22:58] <Nexus> oh boy, ok, I considered myself lucky that this install worked on a small partition on what elsewise is a windows machine...  that I could still boot into windows was a stroke of luck.  I'll look over those wiki's to figure out next steps
[23:09] <krthk_>  /msg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER krthk yvsdkynyggll
[23:09] <rahtgaz> oops?
[23:10] <Rarrikins> krthk_: With services, always either use the status window or open a query window to NickServ or whatever and use that.
[23:11] <OerHeks> It is not the password, rahtgaz
[23:12] <krthk_> quit
[23:13] <jonathan_> hello
[23:13] <jonathan_> I have a remote hard drive that has Acronis backups from a windows machine, can I retrieve those under Linux?
[23:17] <rahtgaz> Depends on the file format of Acronis backups or if it allows you to specify a file format for your backups. It does have a linux version. So maybe, even if the format is closed and proprietary, you can recover from the Linux version of Acronis
[23:19] <OerHeks> rahtgaz +1, linux server version. (paid)
[23:20] <OerHeks> else there is an Acronis Live Iso, but that only restores i guess.
[23:21] <rahtgaz> when using both linux and windows is always a good option to start moving your windows software to more open formats. There's plenty of backup software for windows (that is lighter and arguably better) that generates more friendly file formats
[23:22] <jonathan_> Well my windows desktop went underwater in a flood and all I got out with was my Ubuntu laptop
[23:22] <OerHeks> clonezilla ftw
[23:22] <jonathan_> ok