Frosty__ | sup all | 04:24 |
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Frosty__ | I was just woundering if it is possible to put ubuntu touch on a acer iconia 8 inch tablet that is routed? Will there be ubdates if possible. | 04:26 |
Frosty__ | [21:26] <Frosty__> I was just woundering if it is possible to put ubuntu touch on a acer iconia 8 inch tablet that is routed? Will there be ubdates if possible. | 04:34 |
OerHeks | Frosty__, see the topic, supported devices https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices | 04:48 |
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amazoniantoad | I'm tring to flash my phone to use ubuntu touch but I'm having an issue | 06:54 |
amazoniantoad | Can anyone try and help? | 06:54 |
q1234567890 | amazoniantoad: what is the issue? someone here can help if there's more details | 07:00 |
amazoniantoad | q1234567890: HEy sorry for the delay | 07:04 |
amazoniantoad | q1234567890: I am trying to follow the instructions here: https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/phone/devices/installing-ubuntu-for-devices/ | 07:04 |
amazoniantoad | But adb cannot detect the device when I boot into download mode (my phones version of fastboot) | 07:05 |
q1234567890 | amazoniantoad: hmm, in fastboot mode, you should use fastboot command | 07:06 |
amazoniantoad | q1234567890: sorry, that's what I mean | 07:06 |
amazoniantoad | q1234567890: but fastboot devices doesn't yield any results | 07:06 |
q1234567890 | amazoniantoad: how about adding sudo? try sudo fastboot devices | 07:07 |
amazoniantoad | q1234567890: didn't help | 07:07 |
amazoniantoad | I just want ubuntu as my phone ;_; | 07:08 |
amazoniantoad | Ugh | 07:08 |
q1234567890 | what is your phone model? | 07:09 |
amazoniantoad | q1234567890: Samsung galaxy s5 active with at&t | 07:09 |
q1234567890 | amazoniantoad: hmm... I just do some search, it looks like there's no ubuntu image for your phone yet. | 07:12 |
q1234567890 | amazoniantoad: where did you find the ubuntu touch image? | 07:12 |
amazoniantoad | q1234567890: I haven't. I thought the repository would find one for me. | 07:13 |
amazoniantoad | q1234567890: What's a phone model you suggest I buy to install ubuntu? I bought the Aquarius but it doesn't work within the US. | 07:13 |
q1234567890 | amazoniantoad: I think Nexus 4 is fine. You can look at supported devices here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices | 07:15 |
amazoniantoad | q1234567890: is the ubuntu touch project dead? | 07:18 |
q1234567890 | amazoniantoad: why do you ask that? | 07:18 |
OerHeks | amazoniantoad, as dead as you are :-D | 07:18 |
amazoniantoad | q1234567890: there seems to have been 0 development on supporting any devices | 07:19 |
q1234567890 | I still get update weekly, so, may be not dead yet :P | 07:19 |
duflu | amazoniantoad: It's still current. We are about to release the OTA-13 update too | 07:19 |
amazoniantoad | duflu: What does that mean? | 07:19 |
duflu | amazoniantoad: It's a periodic major update (bug fixes as well as features) | 07:20 |
amazoniantoad | q1234567890: I don't mean a software update. I mean development to support more devices | 07:20 |
amazoniantoad | I want to develop for the platform very badly but my ubuntu phone is not functional within the US | 07:20 |
duflu | amazoniantoad: We can't talk about new devices obviously, but if you watch the various related software projects you will see all of them active on a daily basis. | 07:21 |
amazoniantoad | hm | 07:21 |
SebthreeBQM10HD | morning hi | 07:22 |
SebthreeBQM10HD | morning hi | 07:22 |
duflu | And FYI much of the dev team is in Europe. So not "dead" but still asleep :) | 07:22 |
SebthreeBQM10HD | oh some life in here! | 07:22 |
SebthreeBQM10HD | seems it's not been that active recently | 07:23 |
amazoniantoad | duflu: Well if someone could do a little hand holding in the beginning I could do development for the US | 07:23 |
SebthreeBQM10HD | someone with a support issue? what's the issue? just joined | 07:23 |
amazoniantoad | Never done any kind of porting work before | 07:23 |
SebthreeBQM10HD | development and porting of what ? | 07:23 |
amazoniantoad | SebthreeBQM10HD: I want to install ubuntu touch on my phone. Ordered aquarius but it hardly functions in the US | 07:23 |
amazoniantoad | SebthreeBQM10HD: porting ubuntu touch to various devices | 07:23 |
SebthreeBQM10HD | amazoniantoad, ordered aquarious when, and which one ? | 07:23 |
SebthreeBQM10HD | and yes there's a like network thing, since the networks are a bit differnet or whatever in USA | 07:24 |
SebthreeBQM10HD | the networks don't quite work | 07:24 |
amazoniantoad | SebthreeBQM10HD: E5 last december | 07:24 |
SebthreeBQM10HD | properly | 07:24 |
SebthreeBQM10HD | or you only get 2g, but no 3g | 07:24 |
SebthreeBQM10HD | ? | 07:24 |
amazoniantoad | Hardly ever even get 2g | 07:24 |
SebthreeBQM10HD | and the aquarious doesn't have 4g | 07:25 |
amazoniantoad | Calls constantly dropped | 07:25 |
amazoniantoad | Bad connection, people say my phone goes directly to voicemail | 07:25 |
SebthreeBQM10HD | amazoniantoad, that's a common known thing, that does Ubuntu phones don't really work properly in the USA, since the networks being a bit differnet there to Europe etc | 07:25 |
amazoniantoad | Yeah | 07:25 |
SebthreeBQM10HD | that those above | 07:25 |
SebthreeBQM10HD | amazoniantoad, not sure if anything can be done about that, since really it's a network thing isn't it? the fualt of the American networks :D ? | 07:26 |
amazoniantoad | Well, if it is released on a phone that is supported within the US then it wouldn't be an issue | 07:26 |
amazoniantoad | it's a hardware thing | 07:26 |
SebthreeBQM10HD | if what's released | 07:26 |
SebthreeBQM10HD | ? | 07:26 |
amazoniantoad | Ubuntu touch | 07:26 |
SebthreeBQM10HD | amazoniantoad, the remoured probable nex Ubuntu phone, the Meiazu MX 6, may have more support for the American networks, but people get that from a chinese company | 07:27 |
SebthreeBQM10HD | Meizu Mx 6 | 07:27 |
SebthreeBQM10HD | that's for now being sold with Android only, but remour has it there will be an Ubuntu versiion as well | 07:27 |
amazoniantoad | SebthreeBQM10HD: I hope so | 07:28 |
SebthreeBQM10HD | well not so much a remour, omgubuntu has had mentions about that etc | 07:28 |
SebthreeBQM10HD | amazoniantoad, Meizu phone are more high end or mid range | 07:28 |
SebthreeBQM10HD | amazoniantoad, the BQ stuff is generally known to be cheaper etc, but. out of the two BQ tables I am using the cheaper one the HD, don't have the FHD meaning to buy that as well | 07:29 |
amazoniantoad | I'd like to port ubuntu touch to my device in the mean time. Is there any kind of information on porting? | 07:29 |
SebthreeBQM10HD | and even this cheaper of the two tablets, is pretty awesome really for what it is :) | 07:29 |
SebthreeBQM10HD | !porting | 07:29 |
SebthreeBQM10HD | !port | 07:29 |
ubot5 | For instructions on how to set up port-forwarding (for games, torrents, webservers) see http://portforward.com - also see !firewall | 07:29 |
amazoniantoad | SebthreeBQM10HD: Yes the phone OS was incredible.But I couldn't use it at all | 07:29 |
SebthreeBQM10HD | there is a page some where about porting | 07:29 |
amazoniantoad | lol. not port forwarding | 07:29 |
SebthreeBQM10HD | also mariogrip when around would be good to chat to about that | 07:29 |
SebthreeBQM10HD | amazoniantoad, it's a cop of the #ubuntu bot I think, so not really set up for this channel properly | 07:30 |
SebthreeBQM10HD | a copy above | 07:30 |
amazoniantoad | ah | 07:30 |
SebthreeBQM10HD | but !ubuntu can be a cop sometimes to :D | 07:30 |
SebthreeBQM10HD | !language | 07:30 |
ubot5 | The main Ubuntu channels require that you speak in calm, polite English. For other languages, please visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList | 07:30 |
SebthreeBQM10HD | that was an example :d | 07:30 |
SebthreeBQM10HD | and I was trying to be slihgtly funny, anyway yes mariogrip he has ported unoffially to the One Plus One and three | 07:31 |
SebthreeBQM10HD | and | 07:31 |
amazoniantoad | https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/phone/devices/porting-new-device/ | 07:31 |
SebthreeBQM10HD | the Fairphone | 07:31 |
SebthreeBQM10HD | so one person that would be good to chat to when around more about porting | 07:31 |
SebthreeBQM10HD | amazoniantoad, I think it's quite a lot of work trying to get it onto other things, and also whilst it working well enough | 07:32 |
amazoniantoad | thnks | 07:32 |
SebthreeBQM10HD | various things are likely to not just work on most phones that trying to port hte OS to etc | 07:32 |
SebthreeBQM10HD | which phone do you want to port to? | 07:32 |
amazoniantoad | galaxy s5 active | 07:32 |
SebthreeBQM10HD | ok, but your going to need a load of time if your really going to seriosuly try and port it over, and where it's working enough as well | 07:33 |
amazoniantoad | The best phone I've ever owned. can take a beating and it's waterproof | 07:33 |
SebthreeBQM10HD | since varous things are likely to not just work etc, as I was saying | 07:33 |
amazoniantoad | Yeah | 07:33 |
SebthreeBQM10HD | and even your port may then get an issue with the american networks maybe I guess or possibly | 07:33 |
amazoniantoad | SebthreeBQM10HD: I doubt it. The issue is with the hardware | 07:34 |
SebthreeBQM10HD | amazoniantoad, also I am not sure, but I Think for unoffical phones, suck with just develper mode really | 07:34 |
amazoniantoad | hm | 07:35 |
SebthreeBQM10HD | a bit like when if people bought the ANdroid aqurious phones, and then put Ubuntu on them selves | 07:35 |
amazoniantoad | right | 07:35 |
SebthreeBQM10HD | amazoniantoad, I think developer mode is mostly the same, but won't have the Nokia gps or whatever it was I think | 07:35 |
mcphail | Elleo: great! Look forward to experimenting with it ;) | 07:38 |
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david89 | Hello. What is the correct way of launching an application from the terminal app? libertine-launch is giving $DISPLAY errors | 09:46 |
david89 | And also, what is the status on developing applications without Ubuntu? | 09:47 |
divis1969 | john-mcaleely: I'm fighting against syncing the code for couple days and just found https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/phablet-tools/+bug/1610650 | 09:54 |
ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1610650 in phablet-tools (Ubuntu) "can't sync sources" [Undecided,Fix committed] | 09:55 |
divis1969 | Could you please restart gerrit? | 09:55 |
john-mcaleely | divis1969, I can ask again, sure | 09:55 |
popey | divis1969: best place to ask is #canonical-sysadmin | 09:55 |
popey | because that's all we do :) | 09:55 |
john-mcaleely | doing it now | 09:56 |
divis1969 | Perhaps this could be helpful to figure out the reason: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/repo-discuss/i4d2pvUWcj4 | 09:56 |
divis1969 | Thanks | 09:56 |
htike | hi please | 10:03 |
divis1969 | Hm, gerrit restart seems did not solve the issue. Should I contact #canonical-sysadmin ? | 10:04 |
divis1969 | Oh, yes, it is working now! | 10:05 |
divis1969 | Thanks again! | 10:05 |
john-mcaleely | you're welcome. sorry it's a bit flaky | 10:14 |
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divis1969 | restarting gerrit did not help - I was able to sync a single repository and the issue apears again. I'm wondering is there any fork for ubuntu-touch repos that I can use temporary? | 11:38 |
divis1969 | Also I've noticed gerrit 2.7 is used which is released in 2013. Any plans to upgrade it? | 11:38 |
john-mcaleely | divis1969, as noted elsewhere, no plans I'm aware of. I've raised a ticket with our infrastructre folks to investigate why it has become so flaky | 12:34 |
john-mcaleely | good luck hunting for a mirror - I am not aware of any, but they may well exist | 12:35 |
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clumsymittenhand | hey has anyone here had luck with installing on a Chinese Meizu Pro 5? | 14:24 |
clumsymittenhand | I've extracted all the touch tars to /system but I'm still not showing an OS | 14:25 |
popey | clumsymittenhand: i have seen reports of others doing it | 14:27 |
mcphail | clumsymittenhand: I think I heard something about this on popey and flexiondotorg's last podcast. I think you need the international version. Not sure you can install on the Chinese one. I may be misremembering | 14:27 |
mcphail | whoops | 14:28 |
flexiondotorg | mcphail, Has summoned me. | 14:28 |
popey | https://plus.google.com/u/0/103449842981186239877/posts/RBDbK82Lt83 | 14:28 |
clumsymittenhand | yeah I got far enough to change the firmware to the int version so I could get the fastboot unlocked. Now I'm stuck getting the actual OS to install. | 14:28 |
mcphail | flexiondotorg: popey got there first ;) | 14:28 |
clumsymittenhand | cool I'll check it out. I've gone through like 6 guides so far and none of them work. I feel like once I get this it's gonna be a new fundamental concept about ubuntu that opens up for me. | 14:29 |
popey | maybe take the mittens off? | 14:30 |
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flexiondotorg | clumsymittenhand, This is the specifics for changing Chinese firmware to International/Global | 14:30 |
flexiondotorg | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=65533839&postcount=69 | 14:30 |
mcphail | clumsymittenhand: let me know how you get on. I dropped my bq at the weekend, and I might be in the market for a new device. If I can install to a Chinese meizu it would make life easier | 14:31 |
flexiondotorg | clumsymittenhand, What FlymeOS version do you have right now? | 14:31 |
flexiondotorg | If you have 5.1.60 you need to downgrade to at least 5.1.30 in order to enable root in the FlymeOS Settings. | 14:32 |
flexiondotorg | It you have FlymeOS 4.x then even better, enabling root is easier. | 14:32 |
clumsymittenhand | yeah I got past that part. No more flyme. bootloader is unlocked. | 14:34 |
clumsymittenhand | Im stuck with TWRP loaded on it. I can't get the touch OS to install. All I can get is an ubuntu logo on recovery. | 14:35 |
clumsymittenhand | I got the ubuntu kernel installed though so when it boots I get a nice "Meizu powered by Ubuntu screen" | 14:35 |
leaftype | On the bright side, ubuntu logos are pretty | 14:36 |
clumsymittenhand | :/ | 14:38 |
leaftype | on my M10 I'm still having issues with the terminal, and losing the keyboard every time I switch windows | 14:38 |
leaftype | I thought it had something to do with being in a chroot, because once I could press enter and switch between root@blah blah and nathan@blahblah, crashing only whenI pressed something else | 14:39 |
leaftype | But now I lose keyboard control in the terminal just switching to Chatter and back | 14:40 |
leaftype | without any chroot business | 14:40 |
leaftype | and... now it's not doing it | 14:41 |
leaftype | weird | 14:41 |
flexiondotorg | clumsymittenhand, Sec. I have a link coming for you.... | 14:47 |
flexiondotorg | clumsymittenhand, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=67713435&postcount=20 | 14:49 |
flexiondotorg | THat ^^^^ is a link to a TWRP full system backup for OTA-11 for the Pro 5. | 14:50 |
flexiondotorg | You can restore that using TWRP and you'll have a bootable OTA-11. | 14:50 |
flexiondotorg | After restoring the above, (it is safe I've checked it throughly) boot into it and check stuff works. | 14:51 |
flexiondotorg | However, that backup above has the TWRP recovery in it. | 14:51 |
flexiondotorg | It you want OTA update to work, you'll need to download the Pro5 Ubuntu recovery and flash that via fastboot. | 14:51 |
flexiondotorg | Then you can boot OTA-11 and do an update to OTA-12. | 14:52 |
clumsymittenhand | going through popey's guide.... but I ran out of space extracting the ubuntu tars | 15:01 |
leaftype | what is it that screws up the ota updates? | 15:01 |
popey | not having the ubuntu recovery, which knows how to unpack them, I suspect | 15:02 |
leaftype | ah, seems a weird way to set it up | 15:04 |
leaftype | and terminal crashes again | 15:14 |
davmor2 | leaftype, popey: also people making the system read write and filling up the system space so there is nowhere for the new image to go, also :) | 15:16 |
leaftype | davmor2, lol | 15:17 |
clumsymittenhand | sweeeeeet. Popey thank you so much. I was missing step 6.5. | 15:18 |
popey | ooh | 15:18 |
clumsymittenhand | Thats exactly what I needed. I'm up and running after 3 days. | 15:18 |
popey | yay | 15:19 |
leaftype | any idea when snappy will arive in touch? | 15:19 |
popey | not any time soon. | 15:19 |
davmor2 | leaftype: when it gets there :) | 15:19 |
leaftype | lol :) | 15:20 |
leaftype | while I'm at it, I feel like I should change my name on here. Chose it just before pokemon go came out and now I feel out of place | 15:20 |
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popMaize | popcorn sounds y ummy | 15:22 |
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popcorn | and... /nick isn't doing anything in chatter | 15:23 |
popcorn | how about now.? | 15:23 |
popcorn | nope... | 15:23 |
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popMaize | There we go | 15:25 |
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popMaize | woo, new password making program | 15:49 |
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popMaize | some peopel use password managers, some people use shell commands, some people use pre-made programs. But who makes one in c++? | 15:51 |
popMaize | people learning, tha'ts who | 15:51 |
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deeeeeerw | using ubuntu-device-flash on Aquaris M10 HD , and there is error: error pushing: failed to copy '/home/...a.tar.xz': No space left on device | 16:09 |
deeeeeerw | what should i do to resolve the problem? | 16:09 |
clumsymittenhand | how did you clear the device? | 16:11 |
davmor2 | clumsymittenhand: settings→reset→reset device | 16:12 |
deeeeeerw | ubuntu-device-flash using /cache in device, and the total volum is 400+M, but the file which need to be download to /cache is big than that. | 16:14 |
deeeeeerw | i do that in recovery mode | 16:14 |
deeeeeerw | i want to know if i can modified the recovery.img, so i can change the /cache to become more bigger | 16:16 |
davmor2 | deeeeeerw: did you make it read/write and install apps with apt? | 16:17 |
clumsymittenhand | what recovery are you using? TWRP? | 16:18 |
deeeeeerw | i am in recovery mode, using power+volup, and i can use "adb shell" to visit the device with read/write right. | 16:18 |
deeeeeerw | my recovery image is recovery-cooler.img | 16:19 |
deeeeeerw | which is downloaded from "https://system-image.ubuntu.com/" | 16:20 |
clumsymittenhand | anything important in /cache/recovery? You could just clear it out. | 16:20 |
clumsymittenhand | or manually push the needed tars to /sdcard | 16:20 |
clumsymittenhand | using adb push /path /path | 16:21 |
deeeeeerw | i can clear everything in /cache/recovery, but the total vol in /cache is 400+M, it's too small | 16:21 |
Michal_ | Hello, I want back up and restore sms and contacts on ubuntu touch, I checked some tutorial, but no function or I don't understand well. Can somebody help me? | 16:22 |
clumsymittenhand | deeeeeeerw I'd just manually push the install files from your computer to the phone and do it manually... but if you hang around someone who knows more can prbly help. | 16:24 |
deeeeeerw | i can push the file to other patition, such as /dev/mmcblk0p23, but the next step is reboot the device and go into Recovery mode,and recovery init system, | 16:25 |
deeeeeerw | if i change the directory of the files, the flash operation can't go on | 16:27 |
deeeeeerw | thank you | 16:30 |
davmor2 | deeeeeerw: was this an ubuntu device from the start or an android one? Have you fired it up and installed apt based apps? | 16:31 |
Michal_ | Hello, I want back up and restore sms and contacts on ubuntu touch, I checked some tutorial, but no function or I don't understand well. Can somebody help me? | 16:33 |
deeeeeerw | it's a android device, but i want to install ubuntu OS back. | 16:33 |
davmor2 | deeeeeerw: john-mcaleely might be able to help you but I think you need to use the mtk flash tool to get the initial image on as the android file system is completely different to the ubuntu one | 16:34 |
deeeeeerw | i have used the mtk flash tool to flash the recovery-cooler.img already, and so i can use ubuntu-device-flash command | 16:37 |
deeeeeerw | thank you, but how can i contact with john-mcaleely? | 16:38 |
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taiebot | Has anyone notice higher power consumption on rc-proposed my phone already died. I normally arrive home and have around 40% power. | 17:03 |
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taiebot | Also i am not able to update some apps. is that known? | 17:13 |
Michal_ | hi, need help, when I want unlock MX4 by command fastboot oem unlock, tell me unknow command, what does it mean? | 17:37 |
davmor2 | Michal_: that only works on nexus devices | 17:37 |
Michal_ | I see, do you know how to unlock it on linux? | 17:38 |
Michal_ | I saw some examples but in windows | 17:38 |
davmor2 | Michal_: if you have a none ubuntu mx4 there is no guarantee that it can be unlocked | 17:38 |
Michal_ | Ohh I bought it now and I need unlock it | 17:39 |
jithendra | hi | 17:40 |
Michal_ | So it sound no good for me :( | 17:40 |
davmor2 | Michal_: you might be able to use an mtk flash tool but you would need to get the right image to flash it with | 17:41 |
jithendra | i need link to download ubuntu touch for galaxy nexus i9250 device | 17:41 |
davmor2 | might be worth asking on askubuntu.com | 17:41 |
jithendra | can you help me? | 17:41 |
Michal_ | I saw example, but in windows. But it is possible get mtk tool for ubuntu? | 17:41 |
davmor2 | Michal_: yeap there are versions for ubuntu too | 17:42 |
jithendra | link plz? | 17:43 |
davmor2 | jithendra: I don't think it is supported | 17:44 |
davmor2 | jithendra: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting tells you how and the devices supported | 17:45 |
jithendra | yeah i know i don't support right now, but once it was | 17:45 |
davmor2 | jithendra: that was many many many moons ago there is no link for it now | 17:46 |
jithendra | ok thank you | 17:46 |
taiebot | no one having problems updating apps? i have this error NetworkError 3: - host public.apps.ubuntu.com not found | 18:39 |
davmor2 | taiebot: nope | 18:47 |
taiebot | davmor2: its bizarre i can install apps but cannot download updates... | 19:24 |
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javier4 | is libnativehelper a Ubuntu touch project too? oR is it one of the Android parts not needed? | 19:45 |
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javier4 | lol. I really didn't think it was a question such complex. :D | 20:21 |
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amazoniantoad | Hey guys. Is there anything like the otterbox for the aquarius e5? | 23:07 |
JanC | amazoniantoad: what's an "otterbox"? | 23:21 |
amazoniantoad | JanC: phone case. So, I'm thinking of taking popular android apps and building an ubuntu touch version of them...Thoughts? | 23:21 |
JanC | oh, water resistant cases? | 23:22 |
amazoniantoad | JanC: well no actually. I thought it was too. It's just a really good case to protect the phone. All of the cases I have found my the aquarius suck really bad | 23:22 |
amazoniantoad | Is there a channel for ubuntu-touch development? | 23:24 |
amazoniantoad | When I try to start a test app that was generated by the ubuntu-touch sdk the app crashes/the emulator screen remains black | 23:25 |
JanC | there is #ubuntu-app-devel | 23:26 |
amazoniantoad | Nice. I'm thinking of just making copies of top android apps because my god there is much to be desired from the store | 23:27 |
amazoniantoad | And its organization is very poor | 23:27 |
amazoniantoad | Also, does ubuntu touch allow for desktop if you hook up a computer monitor to it now? | 23:38 |
JanC | depends on the hardware & such | 23:42 |
amazoniantoad | Ah | 23:42 |
amazoniantoad | JanC: so is there anything cool coming out with any future updates or? (sorry for all of the questions. Trying to give ubuntu touch another go) | 23:43 |
JanC | I don't know too much about what they plan to release when | 23:44 |
amazoniantoad | I see | 23:44 |
JanC | I'd suggest waiting or asking again when people are at work in Europe (where AFAIK most developers are) | 23:47 |
amazoniantoad | k | 23:48 |
JanC | AFAIK the idea is that you can run a Unity 8 / Mir based desktop on hardware that allows it (not sure that's true for the e5?) | 23:52 |
JanC | I mean, not sure it allows connecting a monitor | 23:53 |
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