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Frosty__sup all04:24
Frosty__I was just woundering if it is possible to put ubuntu touch on a acer iconia 8 inch tablet that is routed? Will there be ubdates if possible.04:26
Frosty__[21:26] <Frosty__> I was just woundering if it is possible to put ubuntu touch on a acer iconia 8 inch tablet that is routed? Will there be ubdates if possible.04:34
OerHeksFrosty__, see the topic, supported devices https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices04:48
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amazoniantoadI'm tring to flash my phone to use ubuntu touch but I'm having an issue06:54
amazoniantoadCan anyone try and help?06:54
q1234567890amazoniantoad: what is the issue? someone here can help if there's more details07:00
amazoniantoadq1234567890: HEy sorry for the delay07:04
amazoniantoadq1234567890: I am trying to follow the instructions here: https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/phone/devices/installing-ubuntu-for-devices/07:04
amazoniantoadBut adb cannot detect the device when I boot into download mode (my phones version of fastboot)07:05
q1234567890amazoniantoad: hmm, in fastboot mode, you should use fastboot command07:06
amazoniantoadq1234567890: sorry, that's what I mean07:06
amazoniantoadq1234567890: but fastboot devices doesn't yield any results07:06
q1234567890amazoniantoad: how about adding sudo? try sudo fastboot devices07:07
amazoniantoadq1234567890: didn't help07:07
amazoniantoadI just want ubuntu as my phone ;_;07:08
amazoniantoadUgh07:08
q1234567890what is your phone model?07:09
amazoniantoadq1234567890: Samsung galaxy s5 active with at&t07:09
q1234567890amazoniantoad: hmm... I just do some search, it looks like there's no ubuntu image for your phone yet.07:12
q1234567890amazoniantoad: where did you find the ubuntu touch image?07:12
amazoniantoadq1234567890: I haven't. I thought the repository would find one for me.07:13
amazoniantoadq1234567890: What's a phone model you suggest I buy to install ubuntu? I bought the Aquarius but it doesn't work within the US.07:13
q1234567890amazoniantoad: I think Nexus 4 is fine. You can look at supported devices here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices07:15
amazoniantoadq1234567890: is the ubuntu touch project dead?07:18
q1234567890amazoniantoad: why do you ask that?07:18
OerHeksamazoniantoad, as dead as you are :-D07:18
amazoniantoadq1234567890: there seems to have been 0 development on supporting any devices07:19
q1234567890I still get update weekly, so, may be not dead yet :P07:19
dufluamazoniantoad: It's still current. We are about to release the OTA-13 update too07:19
amazoniantoadduflu: What does that mean?07:19
dufluamazoniantoad: It's a periodic major update (bug fixes as well as features)07:20
amazoniantoadq1234567890: I don't mean a software update. I mean development to support more devices07:20
amazoniantoadI want to develop for the platform very badly but my ubuntu phone is not functional within the US07:20
dufluamazoniantoad: We can't talk about new devices obviously, but if you watch the various related software projects you will see all of them active on a daily basis.07:21
amazoniantoadhm07:21
SebthreeBQM10HDmorning hi07:22
SebthreeBQM10HDmorning hi07:22
dufluAnd FYI much of the dev team is in Europe. So not "dead" but still asleep :)07:22
SebthreeBQM10HDoh some life in here!07:22
SebthreeBQM10HDseems it's not been that active recently07:23
amazoniantoadduflu: Well if someone could do a little hand holding in the beginning I could do development for the US07:23
SebthreeBQM10HDsomeone with a support issue?  what's the issue? just joined07:23
amazoniantoadNever done any kind of porting work before07:23
SebthreeBQM10HDdevelopment and porting of what ?07:23
amazoniantoadSebthreeBQM10HD: I want to install ubuntu touch on my phone. Ordered aquarius but it hardly functions in the US07:23
amazoniantoadSebthreeBQM10HD: porting ubuntu touch to various devices07:23
SebthreeBQM10HDamazoniantoad,  ordered aquarious when, and which one ?07:23
SebthreeBQM10HDand yes there's a like network thing, since the networks are a bit differnet or whatever in USA07:24
SebthreeBQM10HDthe networks don't quite work07:24
amazoniantoadSebthreeBQM10HD: E5 last december07:24
SebthreeBQM10HDproperly07:24
SebthreeBQM10HDor you only get 2g, but no 3g07:24
SebthreeBQM10HD?07:24
amazoniantoadHardly ever even get 2g07:24
SebthreeBQM10HDand the aquarious doesn't  have 4g07:25
amazoniantoadCalls constantly dropped07:25
amazoniantoadBad connection, people say my phone goes directly to voicemail07:25
SebthreeBQM10HDamazoniantoad,  that's a common known thing, that does Ubuntu phones don't really work properly in the USA,  since the networks being a bit differnet there to Europe etc07:25
amazoniantoadYeah07:25
SebthreeBQM10HDthat those above07:25
SebthreeBQM10HDamazoniantoad, not sure if anything can be done about that, since really it's a network thing isn't it?  the fualt of the American networks :D ?07:26
amazoniantoadWell, if it is released on a phone that is supported within the US then it wouldn't be an issue07:26
amazoniantoadit's a hardware thing07:26
SebthreeBQM10HDif what's released07:26
SebthreeBQM10HD?07:26
amazoniantoadUbuntu touch07:26
SebthreeBQM10HDamazoniantoad,   the remoured probable nex Ubuntu phone, the Meiazu MX 6, may have more support for the American networks, but people get that from a chinese company07:27
SebthreeBQM10HDMeizu Mx 607:27
SebthreeBQM10HDthat's for now being sold with Android only, but remour has it there will be an Ubuntu versiion as well07:27
amazoniantoadSebthreeBQM10HD: I hope so07:28
SebthreeBQM10HDwell not so much a remour, omgubuntu has had mentions about that etc07:28
SebthreeBQM10HDamazoniantoad,  Meizu phone are more high end or mid range07:28
SebthreeBQM10HDamazoniantoad, the BQ stuff is generally known to be cheaper etc, but.  out of the two BQ tables I am using the cheaper one the HD,  don't have the FHD meaning to buy that as well07:29
amazoniantoadI'd like to port ubuntu touch to my device in the mean time. Is there any kind of information on porting?07:29
SebthreeBQM10HDand even this cheaper of the two tablets, is pretty awesome really for what it is :)07:29
SebthreeBQM10HD!porting07:29
SebthreeBQM10HD!port07:29
ubot5For instructions on how to set up port-forwarding (for games, torrents, webservers) see http://portforward.com - also see !firewall07:29
amazoniantoadSebthreeBQM10HD: Yes the phone OS was incredible.But I couldn't use it at all07:29
SebthreeBQM10HDthere is a page some where about porting07:29
amazoniantoadlol. not port forwarding07:29
SebthreeBQM10HDalso mariogrip when around would be good to chat to about that07:29
SebthreeBQM10HDamazoniantoad, it's a cop of the #ubuntu bot I think, so not really set up for this channel properly07:30
SebthreeBQM10HD a copy above07:30
amazoniantoadah07:30
SebthreeBQM10HDbut !ubuntu can be a cop sometimes to :D07:30
SebthreeBQM10HD!language07:30
ubot5The main Ubuntu channels require that you speak in calm, polite English. For other languages, please visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList07:30
SebthreeBQM10HDthat was an example :d07:30
SebthreeBQM10HDand I was trying to be slihgtly funny, anyway yes mariogrip he has ported unoffially to the One Plus One and three07:31
SebthreeBQM10HDand07:31
amazoniantoadhttps://developer.ubuntu.com/en/phone/devices/porting-new-device/07:31
SebthreeBQM10HDthe Fairphone07:31
SebthreeBQM10HDso one person that would be good to chat to when around more about porting07:31
SebthreeBQM10HDamazoniantoad, I think it's quite a lot of work trying to get it onto other things, and also whilst it working well enough07:32
amazoniantoadthnks07:32
SebthreeBQM10HDvarious things are likely to not just work on most phones that trying to port hte OS to etc07:32
SebthreeBQM10HDwhich phone do you want to port to?07:32
amazoniantoadgalaxy s5 active07:32
SebthreeBQM10HDok, but your going to need a load of time if your really going to seriosuly try and port it over, and where it's working enough as well07:33
amazoniantoadThe best phone I've ever owned. can take a beating and it's waterproof07:33
SebthreeBQM10HDsince varous things are likely to not just work etc, as I was saying07:33
amazoniantoadYeah07:33
SebthreeBQM10HDand even your port may then get an issue with the american networks maybe I guess or possibly07:33
amazoniantoadSebthreeBQM10HD: I doubt it. The issue is with the hardware07:34
SebthreeBQM10HDamazoniantoad,  also I am not sure, but I Think for unoffical phones, suck with just develper mode really07:34
amazoniantoadhm07:35
SebthreeBQM10HDa bit like when if people bought the ANdroid aqurious phones, and then put Ubuntu on them selves07:35
amazoniantoadright07:35
SebthreeBQM10HDamazoniantoad, I think developer mode is mostly the same, but won't have the Nokia gps or whatever it was I think07:35
mcphailElleo: great! Look forward to experimenting with it ;)07:38
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david89Hello. What is the correct way of launching an application from the terminal app? libertine-launch is giving $DISPLAY errors09:46
david89And also, what is the status on developing applications without Ubuntu?09:47
divis1969john-mcaleely: I'm fighting against syncing the code for couple days and just found https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/phablet-tools/+bug/161065009:54
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1610650 in phablet-tools (Ubuntu) "can't sync sources" [Undecided,Fix committed]09:55
divis1969Could you please restart gerrit?09:55
john-mcaleelydivis1969, I can ask again, sure09:55
popeydivis1969: best place to ask is #canonical-sysadmin09:55
popeybecause that's all we do :)09:55
john-mcaleelydoing it now09:56
divis1969Perhaps this could be helpful to figure out the reason: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/repo-discuss/i4d2pvUWcj409:56
divis1969Thanks09:56
htikehi please10:03
divis1969Hm, gerrit restart seems did not solve the issue. Should I contact #canonical-sysadmin ?10:04
divis1969Oh, yes, it is working now!10:05
divis1969Thanks again!10:05
john-mcaleelyyou're welcome. sorry it's a bit flaky10:14
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divis1969restarting gerrit did not help - I was able to sync a single repository and the issue apears again. I'm wondering is there any fork for ubuntu-touch repos that I can use temporary?11:38
divis1969Also I've noticed gerrit 2.7 is used which is released in 2013. Any plans to upgrade it?11:38
john-mcaleelydivis1969, as noted elsewhere, no plans I'm aware of. I've raised a ticket with our infrastructre folks to investigate why it has become so flaky12:34
john-mcaleelygood luck hunting for a mirror - I am not aware of any, but they may well exist12:35
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clumsymittenhandhey has anyone here had luck with installing on a Chinese Meizu Pro 5?14:24
clumsymittenhandI've extracted all the touch tars to /system but I'm still not showing an OS14:25
popeyclumsymittenhand: i have seen reports of others doing it14:27
mcphailclumsymittenhand: I think I heard something about this on popey and flexiondotorg's last podcast. I think you need the international version. Not sure you can install on the Chinese one. I may be misremembering14:27
mcphailwhoops14:28
flexiondotorgmcphail, Has summoned me.14:28
popeyhttps://plus.google.com/u/0/103449842981186239877/posts/RBDbK82Lt8314:28
clumsymittenhandyeah I got far enough to change the firmware to the int version so I could get the fastboot unlocked. Now I'm stuck getting the actual OS to install.14:28
mcphailflexiondotorg: popey got there first ;)14:28
clumsymittenhandcool I'll check it out. I've gone through like 6 guides so far and none of them work. I feel like once I get this it's gonna be a new fundamental concept about ubuntu that opens up for me.14:29
popeymaybe take the mittens off?14:30
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flexiondotorgclumsymittenhand, This is the specifics for changing Chinese firmware to International/Global14:30
flexiondotorghttp://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=65533839&postcount=6914:30
mcphailclumsymittenhand: let me know how you get on. I dropped my bq at the weekend, and I might be in the market for a new device. If I can install to a Chinese meizu it would make life easier14:31
flexiondotorgclumsymittenhand, What FlymeOS version do you have right now?14:31
flexiondotorgIf you have 5.1.60 you need to downgrade to at least 5.1.30 in order to enable root in the FlymeOS Settings.14:32
flexiondotorgIt you have FlymeOS 4.x then even better, enabling root is easier.14:32
clumsymittenhandyeah I got past that part. No more flyme. bootloader is unlocked.14:34
clumsymittenhandIm stuck with TWRP loaded on it. I can't get the touch OS to install. All I can get is an ubuntu logo on recovery.14:35
clumsymittenhandI got the ubuntu kernel installed though so when it boots I get a nice "Meizu powered by Ubuntu screen"14:35
leaftypeOn the bright side, ubuntu logos are pretty14:36
clumsymittenhand:/14:38
leaftypeon my M10 I'm still having issues with the terminal, and losing the keyboard every time I switch windows14:38
leaftypeI thought it had something to do with being in a chroot, because once I could press enter and switch between root@blah blah and nathan@blahblah, crashing only whenI pressed something else14:39
leaftypeBut now I lose keyboard control in the terminal just switching to Chatter and back14:40
leaftypewithout any chroot business14:40
leaftypeand... now it's not doing it14:41
leaftypeweird14:41
flexiondotorgclumsymittenhand, Sec. I have a link coming for you....14:47
flexiondotorgclumsymittenhand, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=67713435&postcount=2014:49
flexiondotorgTHat ^^^^ is a link to a TWRP full system backup for OTA-11 for the Pro 5.14:50
flexiondotorgYou can restore that using TWRP and you'll have a bootable OTA-11.14:50
flexiondotorgAfter restoring the above, (it is safe I've checked it throughly) boot into it and check stuff works.14:51
flexiondotorgHowever, that backup above has the TWRP recovery in it.14:51
flexiondotorgIt you want OTA update to work, you'll need to download the Pro5 Ubuntu recovery and flash that via fastboot.14:51
flexiondotorgThen you can boot OTA-11 and do an update to OTA-12.14:52
clumsymittenhandgoing through popey's guide.... but I ran out of space extracting the ubuntu tars15:01
leaftypewhat is it that screws up the ota updates?15:01
popeynot having the ubuntu recovery, which knows how to unpack them, I suspect15:02
leaftypeah, seems a weird way to set it up15:04
leaftypeand terminal crashes again15:14
davmor2leaftype, popey: also people making the system read write and filling up the system space so there is nowhere for the new image to go, also :)15:16
leaftypedavmor2, lol15:17
clumsymittenhandsweeeeeet. Popey thank you so much. I was missing step 6.5.15:18
popeyooh15:18
clumsymittenhandThats exactly what I needed. I'm up and running after 3 days.15:18
popeyyay15:19
leaftypeany idea when snappy will arive in touch?15:19
popeynot any time soon.15:19
davmor2leaftype: when it gets there :)15:19
leaftypelol :)15:20
leaftypewhile I'm at it, I feel like I should change my name on here. Chose it just before pokemon go came out and now I feel out of place15:20
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popMaizepopcorn sounds y ummy15:22
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popcornand... /nick isn't doing anything in chatter15:23
popcornhow about now.?15:23
popcornnope...15:23
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popMaizeThere we go15:25
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popMaizewoo, new password making program15:49
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popMaizesome peopel use password managers, some people use shell commands, some people use pre-made programs. But who makes one in c++?15:51
popMaizepeople learning, tha'ts who15:51
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deeeeeerwusing ubuntu-device-flash on Aquaris M10 HD , and there is error: error pushing: failed to copy '/home/...a.tar.xz': No space left on device16:09
deeeeeerwwhat should i do to resolve the problem?16:09
clumsymittenhandhow did you clear the device?16:11
davmor2clumsymittenhand: settings→reset→reset device16:12
deeeeeerwubuntu-device-flash using /cache in device, and the total volum is 400+M, but the file which need to be download to /cache is big than that.16:14
deeeeeerwi do that in recovery mode16:14
deeeeeerwi want to know if i can modified the recovery.img, so i can change the /cache to become more bigger16:16
davmor2deeeeeerw: did you make it read/write and install apps with apt?16:17
clumsymittenhandwhat recovery are you using? TWRP?16:18
deeeeeerwi am in recovery mode, using power+volup, and i can use "adb shell" to visit the device with read/write right.16:18
deeeeeerwmy recovery image is recovery-cooler.img16:19
deeeeeerwwhich is downloaded from "https://system-image.ubuntu.com/"16:20
clumsymittenhandanything important in /cache/recovery? You could just clear it out.16:20
clumsymittenhandor manually push the needed tars to /sdcard16:20
clumsymittenhandusing adb push /path /path16:21
deeeeeerwi can clear everything in /cache/recovery, but the total vol in /cache is 400+M, it's too small16:21
Michal_Hello, I want back up and restore sms and contacts on ubuntu touch, I checked some tutorial, but no function or I don't understand well. Can somebody help me?16:22
clumsymittenhanddeeeeeeerw I'd just manually push the install files from your computer to the phone and do it manually... but if you hang around someone who knows more can prbly help.16:24
deeeeeerwi can push the file to other patition, such as /dev/mmcblk0p23, but the next step is reboot the device and go into Recovery mode,and recovery init system,16:25
deeeeeerwif i change the directory of the files, the flash operation can't go on16:27
deeeeeerwthank you16:30
davmor2deeeeeerw: was this an ubuntu device from the start or an android one? Have you fired it up and installed apt based apps?16:31
Michal_Hello, I want back up and restore sms and contacts on ubuntu touch, I checked some tutorial, but no function or I don't understand well. Can somebody help me?16:33
deeeeeerwit's a android device, but i want to install ubuntu OS back.16:33
davmor2deeeeeerw: john-mcaleely might be able to help you but I think you need to use the mtk flash tool to get the initial image on as the android file system is completely different to the ubuntu one16:34
deeeeeerwi have used the mtk flash tool to flash the recovery-cooler.img already, and so i can use ubuntu-device-flash command16:37
deeeeeerwthank you, but how can i contact with john-mcaleely?16:38
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taiebotHas anyone notice higher power consumption on rc-proposed my phone already died. I normally arrive home and have around 40% power.17:03
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taiebotAlso i am not able to update some apps. is that known?17:13
Michal_hi, need help, when I want unlock MX4 by command fastboot oem unlock, tell me unknow command, what does it mean?17:37
davmor2Michal_: that only works on nexus devices17:37
Michal_I see,  do you know how to unlock it on linux?17:38
Michal_I saw some examples but in windows17:38
davmor2Michal_: if you have a none ubuntu mx4 there is no guarantee that it can be unlocked17:38
Michal_Ohh I bought it now and I need unlock it17:39
jithendrahi17:40
Michal_So it sound no good for me :(17:40
davmor2Michal_: you might be able to use an mtk flash tool but you would need to get the right image to flash it with17:41
jithendrai need link to download ubuntu touch for galaxy nexus i9250 device17:41
davmor2might be worth asking on askubuntu.com17:41
jithendracan you help me?17:41
Michal_I saw example, but in windows. But it is possible get mtk tool for ubuntu?17:41
davmor2Michal_: yeap there are versions for ubuntu too17:42
jithendralink plz?17:43
davmor2jithendra: I don't think it is supported17:44
davmor2jithendra: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting tells you how and the devices supported17:45
jithendrayeah i know i don't support right now, but once it was17:45
davmor2jithendra: that was many many many moons ago there is no link for it now17:46
jithendraok thank you17:46
taiebotno one having problems updating apps? i have this error NetworkError 3: - host public.apps.ubuntu.com not found18:39
davmor2taiebot: nope18:47
taiebotdavmor2: its bizarre i can install apps but cannot download updates...19:24
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javier4is libnativehelper a Ubuntu touch project too? oR is it one of the Android parts not needed?19:45
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javier4lol. I really didn't think it was a question such complex. :D20:21
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amazoniantoadHey guys. Is there anything like the otterbox for the aquarius e5?23:07
JanCamazoniantoad: what's an "otterbox"?23:21
amazoniantoadJanC: phone case. So, I'm thinking of taking popular android apps and building an ubuntu touch version of them...Thoughts?23:21
JanCoh, water resistant cases?23:22
amazoniantoadJanC: well no actually. I thought it was too. It's just a really good case to protect the phone. All of the cases I have found my the aquarius suck really bad23:22
amazoniantoadIs there a channel for ubuntu-touch development?23:24
amazoniantoadWhen I try to start a test app that was generated by the ubuntu-touch sdk the app crashes/the emulator screen remains black23:25
JanCthere is #ubuntu-app-devel23:26
amazoniantoadNice. I'm thinking of just making copies of top android apps because my god there is much to be desired from the store23:27
amazoniantoadAnd its organization is very poor23:27
amazoniantoadAlso, does ubuntu touch allow for desktop if you hook up a computer monitor to it now?23:38
JanCdepends on the hardware & such23:42
amazoniantoadAh23:42
amazoniantoadJanC: so is there anything cool coming out with any future updates or? (sorry for all of the questions. Trying to give ubuntu touch another go)23:43
JanCI don't know too much about what they plan to release when23:44
amazoniantoadI see23:44
JanCI'd suggest waiting or asking again when people are at work in Europe (where AFAIK most developers are)23:47
amazoniantoadk23:48
JanCAFAIK the idea is that you can run a Unity 8 / Mir based desktop on hardware that allows it (not sure that's true for the e5?)23:52
JanCI mean, not sure it allows connecting a monitor23:53

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