[04:24] <Frosty__> sup all
[04:26] <Frosty__> I was just woundering if it is possible to put ubuntu touch on a acer iconia 8 inch tablet that is routed? Will there be ubdates if possible.
[04:34] <Frosty__> [21:26] <Frosty__> I was just woundering if it is possible to put ubuntu touch on a acer iconia 8 inch tablet that is routed? Will there be ubdates if possible.
[04:48] <OerHeks> Frosty__, see the topic, supported devices https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices
[06:54] <amazoniantoad> I'm tring to flash my phone to use ubuntu touch but I'm having an issue
[06:54] <amazoniantoad> Can anyone try and help?
[07:00] <q1234567890> amazoniantoad: what is the issue? someone here can help if there's more details
[07:04] <amazoniantoad> q1234567890: HEy sorry for the delay
[07:04] <amazoniantoad> q1234567890: I am trying to follow the instructions here: https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/phone/devices/installing-ubuntu-for-devices/
[07:05] <amazoniantoad> But adb cannot detect the device when I boot into download mode (my phones version of fastboot)
[07:06] <q1234567890> amazoniantoad: hmm, in fastboot mode, you should use fastboot command
[07:06] <amazoniantoad> q1234567890: sorry, that's what I mean
[07:06] <amazoniantoad> q1234567890: but fastboot devices doesn't yield any results
[07:07] <q1234567890> amazoniantoad: how about adding sudo? try sudo fastboot devices
[07:07] <amazoniantoad> q1234567890: didn't help
[07:08] <amazoniantoad> I just want ubuntu as my phone ;_;
[07:08] <amazoniantoad> Ugh
[07:09] <q1234567890> what is your phone model?
[07:09] <amazoniantoad> q1234567890: Samsung galaxy s5 active with at&t
[07:12] <q1234567890> amazoniantoad: hmm... I just do some search, it looks like there's no ubuntu image for your phone yet.
[07:12] <q1234567890> amazoniantoad: where did you find the ubuntu touch image?
[07:13] <amazoniantoad> q1234567890: I haven't. I thought the repository would find one for me.
[07:13] <amazoniantoad> q1234567890: What's a phone model you suggest I buy to install ubuntu? I bought the Aquarius but it doesn't work within the US.
[07:15] <q1234567890> amazoniantoad: I think Nexus 4 is fine. You can look at supported devices here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices
[07:18] <amazoniantoad> q1234567890: is the ubuntu touch project dead?
[07:18] <q1234567890> amazoniantoad: why do you ask that?
[07:18] <OerHeks> amazoniantoad, as dead as you are :-D
[07:19] <amazoniantoad> q1234567890: there seems to have been 0 development on supporting any devices
[07:19] <q1234567890> I still get update weekly, so, may be not dead yet :P
[07:19] <duflu> amazoniantoad: It's still current. We are about to release the OTA-13 update too
[07:19] <amazoniantoad> duflu: What does that mean?
[07:20] <duflu> amazoniantoad: It's a periodic major update (bug fixes as well as features)
[07:20] <amazoniantoad> q1234567890: I don't mean a software update. I mean development to support more devices
[07:20] <amazoniantoad> I want to develop for the platform very badly but my ubuntu phone is not functional within the US
[07:21] <duflu> amazoniantoad: We can't talk about new devices obviously, but if you watch the various related software projects you will see all of them active on a daily basis.
[07:21] <amazoniantoad> hm
[07:22] <SebthreeBQM10HD> morning hi
[07:22] <SebthreeBQM10HD> morning hi
[07:22] <duflu> And FYI much of the dev team is in Europe. So not "dead" but still asleep :)
[07:22] <SebthreeBQM10HD> oh some life in here!
[07:23] <SebthreeBQM10HD> seems it's not been that active recently
[07:23] <amazoniantoad> duflu: Well if someone could do a little hand holding in the beginning I could do development for the US
[07:23] <SebthreeBQM10HD> someone with a support issue?  what's the issue? just joined
[07:23] <amazoniantoad> Never done any kind of porting work before
[07:23] <SebthreeBQM10HD> development and porting of what ?
[07:23] <amazoniantoad> SebthreeBQM10HD: I want to install ubuntu touch on my phone. Ordered aquarius but it hardly functions in the US
[07:23] <amazoniantoad> SebthreeBQM10HD: porting ubuntu touch to various devices
[07:23] <SebthreeBQM10HD> amazoniantoad,  ordered aquarious when, and which one ?
[07:24] <SebthreeBQM10HD> and yes there's a like network thing, since the networks are a bit differnet or whatever in USA
[07:24] <SebthreeBQM10HD> the networks don't quite work
[07:24] <amazoniantoad> SebthreeBQM10HD: E5 last december
[07:24] <SebthreeBQM10HD> properly
[07:24] <SebthreeBQM10HD> or you only get 2g, but no 3g
[07:24] <SebthreeBQM10HD> ?
[07:24] <amazoniantoad> Hardly ever even get 2g
[07:25] <SebthreeBQM10HD> and the aquarious doesn't  have 4g
[07:25] <amazoniantoad> Calls constantly dropped
[07:25] <amazoniantoad> Bad connection, people say my phone goes directly to voicemail
[07:25] <SebthreeBQM10HD> amazoniantoad,  that's a common known thing, that does Ubuntu phones don't really work properly in the USA,  since the networks being a bit differnet there to Europe etc
[07:25] <amazoniantoad> Yeah
[07:25] <SebthreeBQM10HD> that those above
[07:26] <SebthreeBQM10HD> amazoniantoad, not sure if anything can be done about that, since really it's a network thing isn't it?  the fualt of the American networks :D ?
[07:26] <amazoniantoad> Well, if it is released on a phone that is supported within the US then it wouldn't be an issue
[07:26] <amazoniantoad> it's a hardware thing
[07:26] <SebthreeBQM10HD> if what's released
[07:26] <SebthreeBQM10HD> ?
[07:26] <amazoniantoad> Ubuntu touch
[07:27] <SebthreeBQM10HD> amazoniantoad,   the remoured probable nex Ubuntu phone, the Meiazu MX 6, may have more support for the American networks, but people get that from a chinese company
[07:27] <SebthreeBQM10HD> Meizu Mx 6
[07:27] <SebthreeBQM10HD> that's for now being sold with Android only, but remour has it there will be an Ubuntu versiion as well
[07:28] <amazoniantoad> SebthreeBQM10HD: I hope so
[07:28] <SebthreeBQM10HD> well not so much a remour, omgubuntu has had mentions about that etc
[07:28] <SebthreeBQM10HD> amazoniantoad,  Meizu phone are more high end or mid range
[07:29] <SebthreeBQM10HD> amazoniantoad, the BQ stuff is generally known to be cheaper etc, but.  out of the two BQ tables I am using the cheaper one the HD,  don't have the FHD meaning to buy that as well
[07:29] <amazoniantoad> I'd like to port ubuntu touch to my device in the mean time. Is there any kind of information on porting?
[07:29] <SebthreeBQM10HD> and even this cheaper of the two tablets, is pretty awesome really for what it is :)
[07:29] <SebthreeBQM10HD> !porting
[07:29] <SebthreeBQM10HD> !port
[07:29] <amazoniantoad> SebthreeBQM10HD: Yes the phone OS was incredible.But I couldn't use it at all
[07:29] <SebthreeBQM10HD> there is a page some where about porting
[07:29] <amazoniantoad> lol. not port forwarding
[07:29] <SebthreeBQM10HD> also mariogrip when around would be good to chat to about that
[07:30] <SebthreeBQM10HD> amazoniantoad, it's a cop of the #ubuntu bot I think, so not really set up for this channel properly
[07:30] <SebthreeBQM10HD>  a copy above
[07:30] <amazoniantoad> ah
[07:30] <SebthreeBQM10HD> but !ubuntu can be a cop sometimes to :D
[07:30] <SebthreeBQM10HD> !language
[07:30] <SebthreeBQM10HD> that was an example :d
[07:31] <SebthreeBQM10HD> and I was trying to be slihgtly funny, anyway yes mariogrip he has ported unoffially to the One Plus One and three
[07:31] <SebthreeBQM10HD> and
[07:31] <amazoniantoad> https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/phone/devices/porting-new-device/
[07:31] <SebthreeBQM10HD> the Fairphone
[07:31] <SebthreeBQM10HD> so one person that would be good to chat to when around more about porting
[07:32] <SebthreeBQM10HD> amazoniantoad, I think it's quite a lot of work trying to get it onto other things, and also whilst it working well enough
[07:32] <amazoniantoad> thnks
[07:32] <SebthreeBQM10HD> various things are likely to not just work on most phones that trying to port hte OS to etc
[07:32] <SebthreeBQM10HD> which phone do you want to port to?
[07:32] <amazoniantoad> galaxy s5 active
[07:33] <SebthreeBQM10HD> ok, but your going to need a load of time if your really going to seriosuly try and port it over, and where it's working enough as well
[07:33] <amazoniantoad> The best phone I've ever owned. can take a beating and it's waterproof
[07:33] <SebthreeBQM10HD> since varous things are likely to not just work etc, as I was saying
[07:33] <amazoniantoad> Yeah
[07:33] <SebthreeBQM10HD> and even your port may then get an issue with the american networks maybe I guess or possibly
[07:34] <amazoniantoad> SebthreeBQM10HD: I doubt it. The issue is with the hardware
[07:34] <SebthreeBQM10HD> amazoniantoad,  also I am not sure, but I Think for unoffical phones, suck with just develper mode really
[07:35] <amazoniantoad> hm
[07:35] <SebthreeBQM10HD> a bit like when if people bought the ANdroid aqurious phones, and then put Ubuntu on them selves
[07:35] <amazoniantoad> right
[07:35] <SebthreeBQM10HD> amazoniantoad, I think developer mode is mostly the same, but won't have the Nokia gps or whatever it was I think
[07:38] <mcphail> Elleo: great! Look forward to experimenting with it ;)
[09:46] <david89> Hello. What is the correct way of launching an application from the terminal app? libertine-launch is giving $DISPLAY errors
[09:47] <david89> And also, what is the status on developing applications without Ubuntu?
[09:54] <divis1969> john-mcaleely: I'm fighting against syncing the code for couple days and just found https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/phablet-tools/+bug/1610650
[09:55] <divis1969> Could you please restart gerrit?
[09:55] <john-mcaleely> divis1969, I can ask again, sure
[09:55] <popey> divis1969: best place to ask is #canonical-sysadmin
[09:55] <popey> because that's all we do :)
[09:56] <john-mcaleely> doing it now
[09:56] <divis1969> Perhaps this could be helpful to figure out the reason: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/repo-discuss/i4d2pvUWcj4
[09:56] <divis1969> Thanks
[10:03] <htike> hi please
[10:04] <divis1969> Hm, gerrit restart seems did not solve the issue. Should I contact #canonical-sysadmin ?
[10:05] <divis1969> Oh, yes, it is working now!
[10:05] <divis1969> Thanks again!
[10:14] <john-mcaleely> you're welcome. sorry it's a bit flaky
[11:38] <divis1969> restarting gerrit did not help - I was able to sync a single repository and the issue apears again. I'm wondering is there any fork for ubuntu-touch repos that I can use temporary?
[11:38] <divis1969> Also I've noticed gerrit 2.7 is used which is released in 2013. Any plans to upgrade it?
[12:34] <john-mcaleely> divis1969, as noted elsewhere, no plans I'm aware of. I've raised a ticket with our infrastructre folks to investigate why it has become so flaky
[12:35] <john-mcaleely> good luck hunting for a mirror - I am not aware of any, but they may well exist
[14:24] <clumsymittenhand> hey has anyone here had luck with installing on a Chinese Meizu Pro 5?
[14:25] <clumsymittenhand> I've extracted all the touch tars to /system but I'm still not showing an OS
[14:27] <popey> clumsymittenhand: i have seen reports of others doing it
[14:27] <mcphail> clumsymittenhand: I think I heard something about this on popey and flexiondotorg's last podcast. I think you need the international version. Not sure you can install on the Chinese one. I may be misremembering
[14:28] <mcphail> whoops
[14:28] <flexiondotorg> mcphail, Has summoned me.
[14:28] <popey> https://plus.google.com/u/0/103449842981186239877/posts/RBDbK82Lt83
[14:28] <clumsymittenhand> yeah I got far enough to change the firmware to the int version so I could get the fastboot unlocked. Now I'm stuck getting the actual OS to install.
[14:28] <mcphail> flexiondotorg: popey got there first ;)
[14:29] <clumsymittenhand> cool I'll check it out. I've gone through like 6 guides so far and none of them work. I feel like once I get this it's gonna be a new fundamental concept about ubuntu that opens up for me.
[14:30] <popey> maybe take the mittens off?
[14:30] <flexiondotorg> clumsymittenhand, This is the specifics for changing Chinese firmware to International/Global
[14:30] <flexiondotorg> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=65533839&postcount=69
[14:31] <mcphail> clumsymittenhand: let me know how you get on. I dropped my bq at the weekend, and I might be in the market for a new device. If I can install to a Chinese meizu it would make life easier
[14:31] <flexiondotorg> clumsymittenhand, What FlymeOS version do you have right now?
[14:32] <flexiondotorg> If you have 5.1.60 you need to downgrade to at least 5.1.30 in order to enable root in the FlymeOS Settings.
[14:32] <flexiondotorg> It you have FlymeOS 4.x then even better, enabling root is easier.
[14:34] <clumsymittenhand> yeah I got past that part. No more flyme. bootloader is unlocked.
[14:35] <clumsymittenhand> Im stuck with TWRP loaded on it. I can't get the touch OS to install. All I can get is an ubuntu logo on recovery.
[14:35] <clumsymittenhand> I got the ubuntu kernel installed though so when it boots I get a nice "Meizu powered by Ubuntu screen"
[14:36] <leaftype> On the bright side, ubuntu logos are pretty
[14:38] <clumsymittenhand> :/
[14:38] <leaftype> on my M10 I'm still having issues with the terminal, and losing the keyboard every time I switch windows
[14:39] <leaftype> I thought it had something to do with being in a chroot, because once I could press enter and switch between root@blah blah and nathan@blahblah, crashing only whenI pressed something else
[14:40] <leaftype> But now I lose keyboard control in the terminal just switching to Chatter and back
[14:40] <leaftype> without any chroot business
[14:41] <leaftype> and... now it's not doing it
[14:41] <leaftype> weird
[14:47] <flexiondotorg> clumsymittenhand, Sec. I have a link coming for you....
[14:49] <flexiondotorg> clumsymittenhand, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=67713435&postcount=20
[14:50] <flexiondotorg> THat ^^^^ is a link to a TWRP full system backup for OTA-11 for the Pro 5.
[14:50] <flexiondotorg> You can restore that using TWRP and you'll have a bootable OTA-11.
[14:51] <flexiondotorg> After restoring the above, (it is safe I've checked it throughly) boot into it and check stuff works.
[14:51] <flexiondotorg> However, that backup above has the TWRP recovery in it.
[14:51] <flexiondotorg> It you want OTA update to work, you'll need to download the Pro5 Ubuntu recovery and flash that via fastboot.
[14:52] <flexiondotorg> Then you can boot OTA-11 and do an update to OTA-12.
[15:01] <clumsymittenhand> going through popey's guide.... but I ran out of space extracting the ubuntu tars
[15:01] <leaftype> what is it that screws up the ota updates?
[15:02] <popey> not having the ubuntu recovery, which knows how to unpack them, I suspect
[15:04] <leaftype> ah, seems a weird way to set it up
[15:14] <leaftype> and terminal crashes again
[15:16] <davmor2> leaftype, popey: also people making the system read write and filling up the system space so there is nowhere for the new image to go, also :)
[15:17] <leaftype> davmor2, lol
[15:18] <clumsymittenhand> sweeeeeet. Popey thank you so much. I was missing step 6.5.
[15:18] <popey> ooh
[15:18] <clumsymittenhand> Thats exactly what I needed. I'm up and running after 3 days.
[15:19] <popey> yay
[15:19] <leaftype> any idea when snappy will arive in touch?
[15:19] <popey> not any time soon.
[15:19] <davmor2> leaftype: when it gets there :)
[15:20] <leaftype> lol :)
[15:20] <leaftype> while I'm at it, I feel like I should change my name on here. Chose it just before pokemon go came out and now I feel out of place
[15:22] <popMaize> popcorn sounds y ummy
[15:23] <popcorn> and... /nick isn't doing anything in chatter
[15:23] <popcorn> how about now.?
[15:23] <popcorn> nope...
[15:25] <popMaize> There we go
[15:49] <popMaize> woo, new password making program
[15:51] <popMaize> some peopel use password managers, some people use shell commands, some people use pre-made programs. But who makes one in c++?
[15:51] <popMaize> people learning, tha'ts who
[16:09] <deeeeeerw> using ubuntu-device-flash on Aquaris M10 HD , and there is error: error pushing: failed to copy '/home/...a.tar.xz': No space left on device
[16:09] <deeeeeerw> what should i do to resolve the problem?
[16:11] <clumsymittenhand> how did you clear the device?
[16:12] <davmor2> clumsymittenhand: settings→reset→reset device
[16:14] <deeeeeerw> ubuntu-device-flash using /cache in device, and the total volum is 400+M, but the file which need to be download to /cache is big than that.
[16:14] <deeeeeerw> i do that in recovery mode
[16:16] <deeeeeerw> i want to know if i can modified the recovery.img, so i can change the /cache to become more bigger
[16:17] <davmor2> deeeeeerw: did you make it read/write and install apps with apt?
[16:18] <clumsymittenhand> what recovery are you using? TWRP?
[16:18] <deeeeeerw> i am in recovery mode, using power+volup, and i can use "adb shell" to visit the device with read/write right.
[16:19] <deeeeeerw> my recovery image is recovery-cooler.img
[16:20] <deeeeeerw> which is downloaded from "https://system-image.ubuntu.com/"
[16:20] <clumsymittenhand> anything important in /cache/recovery? You could just clear it out.
[16:20] <clumsymittenhand> or manually push the needed tars to /sdcard
[16:21] <clumsymittenhand> using adb push /path /path
[16:21] <deeeeeerw> i can clear everything in /cache/recovery, but the total vol in /cache is 400+M, it's too small
[16:22] <Michal_> Hello, I want back up and restore sms and contacts on ubuntu touch, I checked some tutorial, but no function or I don't understand well. Can somebody help me?
[16:24] <clumsymittenhand> deeeeeeerw I'd just manually push the install files from your computer to the phone and do it manually... but if you hang around someone who knows more can prbly help.
[16:25] <deeeeeerw> i can push the file to other patition, such as /dev/mmcblk0p23, but the next step is reboot the device and go into Recovery mode,and recovery init system,
[16:27] <deeeeeerw> if i change the directory of the files, the flash operation can't go on
[16:30] <deeeeeerw> thank you
[16:31] <davmor2> deeeeeerw: was this an ubuntu device from the start or an android one? Have you fired it up and installed apt based apps?
[16:33] <Michal_> Hello, I want back up and restore sms and contacts on ubuntu touch, I checked some tutorial, but no function or I don't understand well. Can somebody help me?
[16:33] <deeeeeerw> it's a android device, but i want to install ubuntu OS back.
[16:34] <davmor2> deeeeeerw: john-mcaleely might be able to help you but I think you need to use the mtk flash tool to get the initial image on as the android file system is completely different to the ubuntu one
[16:37] <deeeeeerw> i have used the mtk flash tool to flash the recovery-cooler.img already, and so i can use ubuntu-device-flash command
[16:38] <deeeeeerw> thank you, but how can i contact with john-mcaleely?
[17:03] <taiebot> Has anyone notice higher power consumption on rc-proposed my phone already died. I normally arrive home and have around 40% power.
[17:13] <taiebot> Also i am not able to update some apps. is that known?
[17:37] <Michal_> hi, need help, when I want unlock MX4 by command fastboot oem unlock, tell me unknow command, what does it mean?
[17:37] <davmor2> Michal_: that only works on nexus devices
[17:38] <Michal_> I see,  do you know how to unlock it on linux?
[17:38] <Michal_> I saw some examples but in windows
[17:38] <davmor2> Michal_: if you have a none ubuntu mx4 there is no guarantee that it can be unlocked
[17:39] <Michal_> Ohh I bought it now and I need unlock it
[17:40] <jithendra> hi
[17:40] <Michal_> So it sound no good for me :(
[17:41] <davmor2> Michal_: you might be able to use an mtk flash tool but you would need to get the right image to flash it with
[17:41] <jithendra> i need link to download ubuntu touch for galaxy nexus i9250 device
[17:41] <davmor2> might be worth asking on askubuntu.com
[17:41] <jithendra> can you help me?
[17:41] <Michal_> I saw example, but in windows. But it is possible get mtk tool for ubuntu?
[17:42] <davmor2> Michal_: yeap there are versions for ubuntu too
[17:43] <jithendra> link plz?
[17:44] <davmor2> jithendra: I don't think it is supported
[17:45] <davmor2> jithendra: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting tells you how and the devices supported
[17:45] <jithendra> yeah i know i don't support right now, but once it was
[17:46] <davmor2> jithendra: that was many many many moons ago there is no link for it now
[17:46] <jithendra> ok thank you
[18:39] <taiebot> no one having problems updating apps? i have this error NetworkError 3: - host public.apps.ubuntu.com not found
[18:47] <davmor2> taiebot: nope
[19:24] <taiebot> davmor2: its bizarre i can install apps but cannot download updates...
[19:45] <javier4> is libnativehelper a Ubuntu touch project too? oR is it one of the Android parts not needed?
[20:21] <javier4> lol. I really didn't think it was a question such complex. :D
[23:07] <amazoniantoad> Hey guys. Is there anything like the otterbox for the aquarius e5?
[23:21] <JanC> amazoniantoad: what's an "otterbox"?
[23:21] <amazoniantoad> JanC: phone case. So, I'm thinking of taking popular android apps and building an ubuntu touch version of them...Thoughts?
[23:22] <JanC> oh, water resistant cases?
[23:22] <amazoniantoad> JanC: well no actually. I thought it was too. It's just a really good case to protect the phone. All of the cases I have found my the aquarius suck really bad
[23:24] <amazoniantoad> Is there a channel for ubuntu-touch development?
[23:25] <amazoniantoad> When I try to start a test app that was generated by the ubuntu-touch sdk the app crashes/the emulator screen remains black
[23:26] <JanC> there is #ubuntu-app-devel
[23:27] <amazoniantoad> Nice. I'm thinking of just making copies of top android apps because my god there is much to be desired from the store
[23:27] <amazoniantoad> And its organization is very poor
[23:38] <amazoniantoad> Also, does ubuntu touch allow for desktop if you hook up a computer monitor to it now?
[23:42] <JanC> depends on the hardware & such
[23:42] <amazoniantoad> Ah
[23:43] <amazoniantoad> JanC: so is there anything cool coming out with any future updates or? (sorry for all of the questions. Trying to give ubuntu touch another go)
[23:44] <JanC> I don't know too much about what they plan to release when
[23:44] <amazoniantoad> I see
[23:47] <JanC> I'd suggest waiting or asking again when people are at work in Europe (where AFAIK most developers are)
[23:48] <amazoniantoad> k
[23:52] <JanC> AFAIK the idea is that you can run a Unity 8 / Mir based desktop on hardware that allows it (not sure that's true for the e5?)
[23:53] <JanC> I mean, not sure it allows connecting a monitor