[04:08] <mapps> hi
[05:05] <knightwise> Morning mapps
[05:09] <mapps> morning
[05:09] <mapps> watching new ep of power:) love the show
[05:47] <knightwise> you are such a couch potato :)
[06:40] <SebthreeBQM10HD> morning
[06:50] <MooDoo> morning
[08:01] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[08:03] <brmbrmcar> Morning
[08:03] <brobostigon> morning brmbrmcar
[08:03] <brmbrmcar> :)
[08:03] <brobostigon> :)
[08:04] <davmor2> Morning all
[08:05] <brobostigon> morning davmor2
[08:05] <davmor2> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyxkODGdp1E
[08:56] <foobarry> how can i get multi process firefox?
[08:57] <foobarry> just upgrade? or need to fiddle a bit
[08:57] <TwistedLucidity> Nightly builds I think
[09:00] <foobarry> oh
[09:04] <foobarry> If you're using Firefox 48 or later, you might be using e10s already. Check about:support and look for a number higher than 0 in the "Multiprocess Windows" entry
[09:24] <TwistedLucidity> 48 on Kubuntu 16.04, multiprocess is "0/1 (Disabled)". I thought it was still a dev thing
[09:25] <foobarry> i enabled it
[09:25] <foobarry> its a staged rollout
[09:26] <TwistedLucidity> "Hardware H264 Decoding - No" Whut? That's not right, my GPU has support for h264
[09:27] <foobarry> The detection for this value is done by attempting to create and initialize a decoder with DXVA support, and then reports if it succeeds.
[09:30] <foobarry> seem to be bugs raised about it where its set false for certain users
[09:30] <foobarry> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1178098#c24
[09:46] <daftykins> TwistedLucidity: doesn't mean it can use it :P
[09:46] <daftykins> DXVA is Windows though, so that can't be a cross platform method
[09:47] <foobarry> youtube is VP9
[09:47] <foobarry> ah, didn't look that closely at the ticket :S
[10:55] <diddledan> morning
[10:56] <diddledan> (for five more minutes)
[10:56] <daftykins> \o hi sir
[10:56] <daftykins> yay latest Dell XPS13 9350 arrived \o/ £580 delivered :D
[10:57] <diddledan> nice
[10:57] <daftykins> gotta love no VAT on the rock - and a 10% off voucher on the Dell Outlet
[11:09] <zmoylan-pi> buy a few and smuggle them back to mainland... :-P
[11:11] <daftykins> ;D
[11:12] <zmoylan-pi> put them in banana boxes with 'warning aggrivated tarantulas inside' stickers on them to discourage customs
[11:12] <daftykins> sadly we're made to pay VAT up front to things coming into England now, so they have to be pack-muled over
[11:12] <daftykins> it's totally ruined selling on ebay for me
[11:20] <zmoylan-pi> you'll have to move to the dark net... drugs, weapons, illegal dell servers... :-P
[11:20] <daftykins> i'll start work on my nervous disposition
[11:20] <zmoylan-pi> with windows 8 so you know it's criminal :-D
[11:22] <diddledan> do it via tor
[11:22] <diddledan> oh you said that
[11:22] <diddledan> dark net == tor *facepalm*
[11:23] <zmoylan-pi> well tor is not all about the dark net, it's a way to access the darknet.  tor is just annonymizing software... mostly
[11:23] <diddledan> yup. I run a tor node
[12:00] <daftykins> tsk tsk
[12:01] <zmoylan-pi> totally legit, honest guv. only uses it to fight the evil copyright holders :-P
[12:28] <TwistedLucidity> WB flagged WB as a source of illegal content.
[12:28] <TwistedLucidity> Such a shame Google didn't immediately yank all their search results just to make a point
[12:29] <zmoylan-pi> and all wb related content to be sure...
[12:45] <foobarry> popey: got a reply from hudl
[12:46] <zmoylan-pi> a reply or a cv? :-P
[12:46] <foobarry> "Let me assure you, the security issues exposed in Lollipop do not apply to the hudl and your device will remain safe to use without the need for updates."
[12:46] <popey> foobarry: haha, okay. bracing myself.
[12:46] <popey> hahaha
[12:46] <popey> Ooookay.
[12:46] <popey> where did that come from? tesco?
[12:47] <foobarry> yes
[12:47] <foobarry> Tim Topping
[12:47] <foobarry> Technical Advisor
[12:47] <foobarry> Tesco Tech Support
[12:47] <TwistedLucidity> "We have not found any security problems." (We have not looked....)
[12:48] <zmoylan-pi> and do they have any staff left to look?
[12:48] <daftykins> that seems totally legit
[12:48] <daftykins> foobarry: now forward it to the register
[12:48] <daftykins> :>
[12:48] <diddledan> yup. defo send it to el reg
[12:48] <popey> there's a guy who works at the inq who has previously looked into this
[12:49] <popey> send it to him too.. chris https://twitter.com/christhedj
[12:52] <daftykins> ah, a pastafarian
[12:52] <foobarry> what was he saying ?
[12:53] <foobarry> http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2382075/tescos-hudl-2-tablet-doesnt-recognise-its-own-charger
[12:54] <foobarry> probably need to find a POC for any exploit that hudl is vulnerable to
[12:55] <diddledan> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Adobe-Will-Update-Linux-Flash
[12:56] <daftykins> nooooo
[12:56] <daftykins> let it die!
[12:59] <foobarry> i wonder if this affects hudl https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=178139
[13:00] <diddledan> no, not "let" it die. "kill it, tie it up in a carpet, put lead weights on it's feed, and throw it into the river ankh
[13:00] <foobarry> emergency dialer is not installed probably
[13:00] <zmoylan-pi> don't you mean _onto_ the river ankh
[13:01] <diddledan> it's a quote: From the Discworld Game (In a David Attenborough voice) "The Shades, a place where curiosity not only kills the cat, but ties lead weights to it's feet.. and throws it in the river"
[13:01] <foobarry> running the stagefright check claims that a couple of CVEs are still exploitable, but not sure if true
[13:02] <zmoylan-pi> in one of the early books it describes the ankh boat races were you run across the surface with boots that are dissolving as you run
[13:02] <daftykins> diddledan: :D
[13:03] <daftykins> i liked the hydrophobe propelled boat travel
[13:05] <foobarry> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NjQ9b3pgIg computerphile talks about correcthorsebatterystaple
[13:05] <foobarry> summary: if doing the 4 words, pick obscure ones
[13:06] <zmoylan-pi> i usually pick words not in english dictionaries or foreign dictionaries for that matter
[13:08] <zmoylan-pi> lots of imaginary words specialised terms that we all know, grep, grok, grue etc.
[13:11] <daftykins> so irish words? ;D
[13:11]  * daftykins ducks
[13:12] <popey> potatopotatopotatopotato
[13:12] <foobarry> dirtytreeandaturd
[13:13] <zmoylan-pi> well some irish words have multiple spellings.  i live in dun laoire/dun leary/dun laoghaire and that's before you start adding fadas for dún laoire etc.  really keeps the tourists on their toes... :-D
[13:13] <popey> :)
[13:14] <zmoylan-pi> poor spanish students i gave directions too recently couldn't even begin to pronounce killiney which adds to the fun
[13:15] <daftykins> they were too amused by the green jacket you were wearing
[13:17] <zmoylan-pi> nah, i was wearing a light fleece while they were wrapped up in heavy coats as they thought it was raining as opposed to the slight mist the locals thought it was
[13:18] <BigRedS> haha, getting directions in Ireland is hilarious
[13:19] <zmoylan-pi> my personal favourite was as a kid my dad stopped for directions and was given directions that was essentially listing fields by the number of cows in them and also wether they were standing or lying down.  directions were completely correct
[13:20] <zmoylan-pi> or coming to a crossroads with a sign that said the town of fethard was 3miles if we went left, 5 miles if we went right and 8 miles if we went straight ahead
[13:21] <zmoylan-pi> slight break in the structure of the universe on that one...
[13:21] <BigRedS> no, that sounds about right :)
[13:22] <zmoylan-pi> plus of course having to reset your watch due to time dilation effects... :-)
[13:23] <BigRedS> I didn't find a watch terribly useful in Ireland :)
[13:24] <zmoylan-pi> they can be used as a compass on the rare occasions sun shines :-)
[13:24] <BigRedS> haha, I went in March last year for eight days, it only rained on one day
[13:25] <BigRedS> it rained for the whole of that day, but everything else was glorious sunshine, I refuse to beleive the Irish weather stereotype
[13:25] <BigRedS> even if this year's trip was mostly drizzle and fog :)
[13:26] <zmoylan-pi> a town in the 90s wanted to apply for a record when their weather station recorded rainfall everyday for over a year till someone pointed out the record was multiple years for rainfall every day
[13:37] <zmoylan-pi> proper rain the last few days, it makes my wifi signal drop 10-15% :-)
[13:42] <diddledan> argh, my eyes!
[13:43]  * diddledan opened his curtains
[13:43] <zmoylan-pi> natural light! get it off me, get it off me!! -barney
[13:43] <daftykins> the dinosaur!?
[13:43] <zmoylan-pi> barney gumble
[13:45] <zmoylan-pi> http://www.moviewavs.com/php/sounds/?id=bst&media=MP3S&type=TV_Shows&movie=Simpsons&quote=bnylight.txt&file=bnylight.mp3
[13:45] <foobarry> barney rubble
[13:46] <diddledan> the simpsons has quotes for every situation
[13:47] <zmoylan-pi> until about season 10 when they stopped making it as it was starting to lose its edge...
[13:53] <daftykins> i'd say it dropped well before then
[13:53] <zmoylan-pi> it was dropping by then alright but they still had great episodes worth watching
[14:14] <zmoylan-pi> what a bargin :-) http://www.weirdstuff.com/cgi-bin/item/18120
[14:15] <daftykins> ooh ;]
[14:16] <zmoylan-pi> put it in your laptop crossing into the states so it doesn't even have the capacity for nsa to install malware... :-)
[14:17] <daftykins> it's too tall, so even if mine had a 2.5" bay it'd violate spec!
[14:18] <zmoylan-pi> wait till the battery expands... :-P
[14:18] <daftykins> ah it's not a mac
[14:18]  * daftykins looks at diddledan 
[14:18] <diddledan> >.<
[14:18] <diddledan> really must get shot of that mac
[14:19] <daftykins> isn't it a reasonably recent model?
[14:19] <diddledan> 2012
[14:20] <diddledan> so-called "late 2012"
[14:20] <daftykins> mmm quick fix up and sell for many pounds - since they hold their value
[14:20] <daftykins> do iiiiit! :D
[14:21] <Myrtti> their sunnyvale store is something
[14:21] <daftykins> something evil :D
[14:22] <Myrtti> just amazing piles of junk
[14:22] <daftykins> speaking of junk - http://www.tig.gg/l42211-Acer-Aspire-Z5610.php
[14:22] <daftykins> more local trade site dreamers
[14:23] <Myrtti> I did find some USB CueCats in 2010 and 2011 but I think I bought the last ones
[14:23] <zmoylan-pi> i was just thinking about those last week.  i was wondering if any were still in use
[14:23] <daftykins> cue wat o0
[14:23] <zmoylan-pi> i was looking at someone describing how barcodes would change everything
[14:24] <Myrtti> they were rather simple to mod into working as normal barcode readers
[14:24] <zmoylan-pi> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CueCat
[14:24] <Oli``> daftykins, A core 2 duo?! That almost has historic value.
[14:24] <Oli``> Almost.
[14:24] <Myrtti> Finnish paper invoices have barcodes on the bottom so they were dead useful when I still got some
[14:25] <zmoylan-pi> we were doing a lot of barcodes around the same time so i followed their rise and demise
[14:25] <daftykins> Oli``: ikr! i just sold a full c2d machine with win10 for £40 - that one is dreaming
[14:26] <daftykins> right best nip to the post orifice
[14:27]  * diddledan probes daftykins' post orifice
[14:27] <diddledan> oh myy
[14:28] <zmoylan-pi> as long as no stamps are licked
[14:28] <diddledan> gotta love a good nmap
[14:28] <daftykins> oh he'll be getting a stamp alright :P
[14:28] <daftykins> i like the way Dell's invoices say 0GHz in the spec
[14:28] <daftykins> gigabits and megabits too
[14:28] <diddledan> wat
[14:29] <diddledan> is that 0GHz because it's "at least"
[14:29] <daftykins> "XPS 13 - 9350 - 0Ghz - 256.00Gb HD - 8000.00Mb Mem -"
[14:29] <zmoylan-pi> it's a stone, isn't it? :-)
[14:29] <popey> look at all that mem
[14:29] <daftykins> i wondered why booting an OS was taking so long! :D
[14:30] <diddledan> 8 thousand megabits?!
[14:30] <zmoylan-pi> the memtest
[14:30] <diddledan> and 256Gigabits
[14:30] <zmoylan-pi> 1k, check, 2k check...
[14:30] <diddledan> small ram and small disk
[14:30] <daftykins> been a while since i saw a slow test, 16384KB OK... then 49152K OK
[14:30]  * diddledan divides by 8 to figure-out what that means
[14:30] <diddledan> 1GB of RAM and 32GB of disk
[14:59] <awilkins> Who knows stuff about configuring Squid?
[15:18] <popey> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQNCl6UVK_M
[15:18] <popey> oops
[15:18] <popey> https://www.amazon.co.uk/DroidBOX-Handheld-Touchscreen-Mali-T764-storage-Black/dp/B019H2S60M/ meant that :)
[15:19] <foobarry> could have been worse
[15:20] <popey> looks like a neat little retro gaming tablet thing
[15:20] <foobarry> seen this site? https://linuxjourney.com/
[15:20] <awilkins> Can you configure squid to use the same port for http_proxy and https_proxy (expectation : you can't and that's silly, but I can't find a way of confirming it other than setting up squid myself)
[15:21] <zmoylan-pi> wearable games is the future... :-) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GGYO5vdrnI
[15:34] <awilkins> Arrgh. Anyone know if Debian's package of squid is built with ssl enabled?
[15:34] <popey> cant see why it wouldn't be
[15:35] <awilkins> Just installed it in a VM, added https_port directive but the logs don't output anything to indicate it's listening
[15:35]  * awilkins checks netstat
[15:35] <awilkins> Nope
[15:36] <awilkins> No errors or anything that suggest I've got it wrong either though
[15:36] <awilkins> The vim support for it's config file hasn't colourised my directive the way the http_port one is
[15:36] <awilkins> Looks like the default compile options are "no HTTPS support"
[15:37] <awilkins> At least they were in 2011
[17:57] <czajkowski> aloha
[17:58] <davmor2> czajkowski: howdy stranger ;)
[17:59] <czajkowski> davmor2: howdy doody
[18:03] <davmor2> If anyone has a nesspresso machine Cafesso coffee is amazing
[20:04] <daftykins> https://www.dropbox.com/s/o6p34y0t6zkaw9j/bug.jpg?dl=0
[20:04] <daftykins> cat just brought this in, but i've no idea what it is o0 some kind of steroid taking moth? :P
[20:05] <zmoylan-pi> bit one of the british athletes at the airport and... :-P
[20:05] <daftykins> i think she's also responsible for this little guy earlier, which i also don't know what is - https://www.dropbox.com/s/8k6ea9mc39osabs/IMG_20160905_162716.jpg?dl=0
[20:06] <zmoylan-pi> yeah, i've had cats that have valiantly defended (ie. digested) any and all insects that entered the house minus the wings and legs for some reason
[20:08] <zmoylan-pi> that cat also 'collected' vets.  bloodied quite a few of those...
[20:09] <daftykins> :o
[20:09] <zmoylan-pi> i think that's why the industry invented the ear thermometer tbh... having one shoved were the sun doesn't shine doesn't make friends
[20:10] <daftykins> indeed! not had that thankfully :>
[21:45] <diddledan> daftykins: not had a thermometer shove up your jacksee?
[21:45] <zmoylan-pi> in fairness it is the sort of thing you remember if it happened
[21:45] <diddledan> I've had a "digital examination" which disappointingly wasn't technological
[21:47] <zmoylan-pi> made you want to pay for the upgrade and go private...