[00:00] <Whippy> Just updated 14.04 to 16.04 on my desktop. On booting it fails -  errors looked like NCQ issue (google) but switching my security setting from 'Windows...' to 'Other OS' in asus uefi bios had no effect. Anyone got any ideas?
[00:01] <TheNH813> Can I use secure boot on a MBR partition? I'l like to switch from Legacy to UEFI mode.
[00:02] <TheNH813> Is it as simple as installing the UEFI version or Grub?
[00:03] <TheNH813> Or would that require reinstalling the entire operating system.
[00:04] <TheNH813> I'l also like to possibly install a custom secure boot signing key and sign the kernel with it.
[00:04] <TheNH813> But that's optional.
[00:12] <TheNH813> Wow, longest I'v ever waited for a reply in years. This IRC is never silent. Everyone must be asleep. :o
[00:13] <TheNH813> At least it means not too many people are having problems. I'l leave it open a few more minutes and then come back later if no reply.
[00:13] <TheNH813> XDDD
[00:14] <Bashing-om> TheNH813: Seen : http://www.rodsbooks.com/linux-uefi/#oops <- Converting a Legacy-Mode Install to Boot in EFI Mode ?
[00:15] <TheNH813> Ah, thanks. Will read. that's exactly what I need.
[00:16] <Bashing-om> TheNH813: Amongst all the other books Rod wrote, he also wrote the book on UEFI for linux .
[00:17] <TheNH813> I'l definitely consider looking those up.
[00:17] <TheNH813> Perfect. rEFInd sound like it'l do the job. I also wanted to disable BIOS boots to improve startup time.
[00:19] <Bashing-om> TheNH813: You are stepping into deep waters, make sure you leave yourself some rope to pull yourself out .
[00:21] <TheNH813> I'v fixed missing kernels and corrupt drivers before. Trust me I'v seen about any common bootloader and kernel related problem.
[00:21] <TheNH813> I can handle it if it messes up. Dont' worry. :)
[00:22] <TheNH813> Wouldn't consider myself an expert, but I'm FAR from new to Linux. Thanks for the help.
[00:23] <Bashing-om> TheNH813: :) We learn the most when we break it the hardest .
[00:23] <TheNH813> Yup. It's all about experience.
[00:54] <getem> Can you install DriectX on Ubunut 16.4
[00:56] <OerHeks> getem, no. but you can install direct x in wine. see the wine factoid
[00:56] <OerHeks> !wine
[00:57] <getem> Thanks!
[01:22] <OerHeks> !hostname
[01:25] <energizer> In Okular, I highlight some text, and it afterwards returns to hand-mode, but I want to stay in highlight mode. Is this possible?
[01:33] <cloves> ola
[01:33] <cloves> ok
[01:46] <rgt83> hey guys, anyone have any experience with configuring plymouth
[01:47] <Bashing-om> rgt83: I am sure some do, so ask the real question .
[01:47] <rgt83> I have a very weird issue with it...
[01:47] <rgt83> it starts out normally but all of a sudden it just turns into an artifact mess
[01:48] <rgt83> it boots normally into the system where i have zero screen issues
[01:50] <fatCow> Does anyone know a command I can use to set my cpu scaling to permormance on boot?
[01:50] <fatCow> i've tried a few, and even changed the scaling file, but on boot it just comes back to ondemand.
[01:51] <fatCow> I even changed it with sed in the init.d file
[01:53] <Bashing-om> rgt83: A Thought; have you changed the background image with an invalid type ?
[01:54] <rgt83> No is the default one but i can try a different one and see how it behaves i guess
[01:57] <Bashing-om> rgt83: Well also might try ' sudo apt-get install --reinstall unity-greeter ' . see what the package manager has to say ?
[01:58] <rgt83> sounds good i will try it. i am starting to believe it might be the loading order of the graphics driver or a resolution issue
[01:59] <rgt83> i am using a macbook pro with retina display so might be related
[01:59] <Bashing-om> rgt83: At the point of the greeter, no GUI graphic's driver is loaded yet .
[02:00] <rgt83> great thats one less thing to worry about i guess haha
[02:03] <Guest20648> hg
[02:06] <lordcirth> Guest20648, hi
[02:06] <Bashing-om> rgt83: Bios has a driver,grub a driver, the kernel a driver and the UI a different driver, it is not to say that grub has a problem handing of to the kernel's vesa driver ??
[02:09] <rgt83> yeap could be... might also be related to KMS as plymouth relies on it
[02:11] <Bashing-om> rgt83: What release are you running ? In 14.04 I explicitly set grub's resolution .
[02:11] <rgt83> 16.04 i can try messing up with the resolution, i will give it a go
[02:13] <Bashing-om> rgt83: See /etc/default/grub for the hint to do so .
[02:14] <rgt83> Thanks for your help, hopefully it will work out
[02:15] <Bashing-om> rgt83: Not helps much .. consider good help when the problem is resolved .
[02:15] <rgt83> advice is also appreciated haha
 Does anyone know a command I can use to set my cpu scaling to permormance on boot?
[02:16] <fatCow> * eifrig (~eifrig@p4FD3AEF1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has joined
 i've tried a few, and even changed the scaling file, but on boot it just comes back to ondemand.
 I even changed it with sed in the init.d file
[02:18] <Whippy> I've just upgraded from 14.04 to 16.04 and my desktop wont boot. I'm looking at the log now - 1st red error says 'failed to read log page 10h'. Can anyone help me?
[02:19] <Whippy> ubuntu 16.04 asus uefi bios
[02:21] <OerHeks> fatCow, really, what is the use of cpu scaling, besides underclocking? cpu do their best to give power when you need it.
[02:21] <OerHeks> full trottle is so 2001..
[02:24] <OerHeks> !info indicator-cpufreq
[02:25] <Bashing-om> Whippy: Proprietary driver on 14.04, and now the driver is broken ??
[02:25] <Whippy> @Bashing-om: I don't think so. I use nvidia drivers but the errors in the log seem to be saying "NCQ disabled due to excessive errors"
[02:26] <Whippy> I'll try an alternative boot...
[02:26] <guzzlefry> Does anyone know of a timer/countdown application similar to the Win10 one seen here? http://tinyurl.com/hr4lka8
[02:26] <gajuith> dmesg | less
[02:26] <gajuith> ach...sorry
[02:28] <OerHeks> !info alarm-clock-applet
[02:29] <Bashing-om> Whippy: Were me, I would purge/re-install the graphic's driver as the driver is built on the kernel in use at the time of build .
[02:29] <Whippy> Hmm... restarting and using the 'failsafeX' mode brought up a window saying "the system is running in low-graphics" mode but it hangs there with the rest of the screen black.
[02:29] <OerHeks> there is also screenlets ( + screenlets-pack-all)  http://askubuntu.com/questions/500870/looking-for-a-countdown-app-where-i-can-set-value-in-days
[02:29] <Guest19489> Hi
[02:29] <Whippy> Thanks @Bashing-om, how do I do that? I think uninstalling it and then re-installing the 16.04 appropriate will be best, I guss.
[02:30] <Guest19489> noone from brazil?
[02:30] <OerHeks> !br | Guest19489
[02:31] <Bashing-om> Whippy: K, be nice to know the hardware to match a driver ( autoinstall though is real smart ) . Ya want to take what the system thinks ?
[02:32] <Whippy> I'll settle for anything that gets my desktop back... then I can find the right driver.
[02:32] <Guest19489> Olá OerHeks!
[02:36] <Bashing-om> Whippy: Let's have the system do it . ' sudo apt remove --purge nvidia-* ; sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf ; sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall ' . Should do the trick .
[02:36] <Whippy> ok, I'll give that a go now...
[02:39] <Whippy> "E: Unable to locate package nvidia-bug-report.log.gz"
[02:39] <Whippy> Then dropped to recover menu screen but hung :(
[02:44] <Bashing-om> Whippy: Huh ? I wonder where that is comming from ?? What results ' ping -c3 ubuntu.com ' ?
[02:44] <Whippy> looking...
[02:45] <Whippy> unknown host ubuntu.com
[02:46] <Bashing-om> Whippy: Well, no networking ! .. OK, systemd .. what have you booted too ? ( can we enable networking ?) .
[02:47] <Whippy> There was networking briefly - it finished the updates with dpkg etc.
[02:47] <Whippy> I used recovery mode 'enabled networking' then dropped to the root prompt
[02:48] <Bashing-om> Whippy: Well no networking now .. the command is valid " ping -c3 ubuntu.com >> 3 packets transmitted, 3 received, 0% packet loss, time 2002ms " .
[02:49] <th0r> Whippy, try 'ping -c3 8.8.8.8'
[02:49] <Whippy> Back with Advanced options > 4.4.0-36 generic (Recovery...) > network > root
[02:50] <Whippy> ping 8.8.8.8 works
[02:50] <th0r> Whippy, then it isn't a network problem, it is a dns problem.
[02:50] <th0r> Whippy, what does 'cat /etc/resolv.conf' say?
[02:51] <Whippy> a load of network stuff just appeared with [ok] and it bounced back to a non responsive recovery menu. rebooting to try the cat...
[02:51] <Bashing-om> Whippy: K; that will work . go ahead ..  I think when one enables networking in the root shell root partition is also mounted r/w .
[02:52] <Whippy> I'll leave networking off while we cat (prompt should stick around then perhaps)...
[02:52] <CodFection> is there ubuntu version of arch which provides me with latest packages / kernel ?
[02:52] <Bashing-om> !latest | CodFection
[02:53] <Whippy> no such file as /etc/resolv.ocnf
[02:53] <OerHeks> CodFection, no, you can enable proposed, but that makes you a tester.
[02:53] <Whippy> (spelt it right on the half dead machine ;))
[02:53] <CodFection> ahan
[02:53] <th0r> Whippy, are you using network manager or static ip?
[02:53] <CodFection> Bashing-om, well fedora and arch are quite stable with latest packages. how so?
[02:54] <CodFection> OerHeks, so ubuntu updates packages after 6 months?
[02:54] <Whippy> I have a static ip but don't know what I'm using locally (it just reset to the recovery screen again... which is frozen).
[02:54] <Bashing-om> Whippy: verify as /etc/resolv.ocnf s/b /etc/resolv.conf .
[02:54] <OerHeks> CodFection, maybe, current is a LTS release, stable packages.
[02:54] <Whippy> Yes - I used the right spelling (/etc/resolv.conf) - having to type manually here on my laptop.
[02:55] <CodFection> OerHeks, LTS is for 5 years, so does that mean I will get new kernel after 5 years?
[02:55] <th0r> Whippy, I run debian, so ubuntu may have gone off and done their own thing. But I think you need somethnig in resolv.conf for dns...that is where the dns servers addresses are stored.
[02:55] <OerHeks> Not sure why you call fedora/arch stable with latest packages/
[02:55] <OerHeks> CodFection, now you are trolling.
[02:56] <CodFection> OerHeks, actually many colleagues are using it and its working fine with them since years
[02:56] <th0r> Whippy, in debian I also needed to put something in /etc/dhcpd.conf....that was a recent change...dhcpd.conf now is the source of the addresses for resolv.conf
[02:56] <Whippy> the dpkg updates seemed to download ok...
[02:56] <CodFection> OerHeks, but I personally find ubuntu easier to install and use and it has more packages but I am afraid if I will not be having latest and greatest packages.
[02:56] <Whippy> I'll use the normal boot (where it drops to root anyway) and see what happens there...
[02:57] <CodFection> OerHeks, I know about debian that its rock solid stable because its dated but what about ubuntu?
[02:57] <Bashing-om> Whippy: Well, that symlink should exist : " sysop@1404mini:~$ ls -al /media/sysop/ubie1604/etc/resolv.conf >> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 29 May 16  2015 /media/sysop/ubie1604/etc/resolv.conf -> ../run/resolvconf/resolv.conf " .
[02:58] <Whippy> It sits for a long time at ata3.00: error: {ABRT} before dropping me to root
[02:58] <OerHeks> ubuntu lts = debian testing, other ubunyu versions = debian unstable.
[02:58] <th0r> Whippy, it sounds like something else is the actual problem...something that is keeping network from getting set up properly.
[02:58] <CodFection> anyone here using i3 on ubuntu? whenever I open nautilius, it distorts my screen.
[02:58] <OerHeks> if you *need* newer versions, find a ppa or build yourself.
[02:59] <CodFection> OerHeks, hmm ok
[02:59] <lotuspsychje> CodFection: you could check the #i3 channel
[02:59] <th0r> Whippy, yup...check out some of these results...https://duckduckgo.com/?q=ata3.00%3A+error%3A+%7BABRT%7D&t=canonical&ia=qa
[02:59] <Whippy> ok - this was a 'standard 14.04' - all working afaik - the 16.04 update completed fine but wont boot.
[03:00] <CodFection> lotuspsychje, I am asking for ubuntu unity. I have tried on xubuntu and it launches thunar fine
[03:00] <OerHeks> Whippy, i know of 1 bug, where the swap UUID is not correct in fstab, easy to check with blockid
[03:00] <Whippy> checking link...
[03:00] <Guest62893> test chat
[03:01] <CodFection> OerHeks, my external display only shows resolution upto 1024. how can I use 1400x900
[03:01] <CodFection> ubuntu 16.04 LTS
[03:02]  * OerHeks never tries i3
[03:02] <Guest62893> getting flux screen in ubuntu 16.01
[03:03] <CodFection> OerHeks, I mean in unity
[03:03] <CodFection> resolution problem
[03:03] <Whippy> It seems very unlikely that the HDD is the problem given that it was running fine just before the upgrade. I think the upgrade and some related incompatibility is the problem.
[03:03] <Guest62893> no i use kde
[03:04] <Whippy> I can ls and look at the HDD fine in the root prompt.
[03:04] <lordcirth> Guest62893, you should be more specific about what you mean by "flux screen"
[03:04] <th0r> Whippy, that might be. I think you were spinning your wheels looking at the network issue. I suspect things are dying before network gets set up
[03:04] <OerHeks> CodFection, people here need more ifo, but you know that. what video, what driver, etc
[03:05]  * OerHeks is AFK
[03:05] <Whippy> @th0r - Yes. The trouble is, how do I find the problem so that I can fix it?
[03:06] <Whippy> The video driver (nvidia) is a good suspect.
[03:06] <th0r> Whippy, I would look just before that error and see how far the system got. Try to deteremine what is supposed to happen after that
[03:06] <Guest62893> lordcirth , my screen get some noise some time
[03:07] <Whippy> but it wont purge - "E: Unable to locate package nvidia-bug-report.log.gz" (the file exists in the root folder).
[03:08] <balrog__> whippy , just update your system
[03:08] <fatCow>   from gi.repository import Gtk
[03:08] <fatCow>   from gi.repository import AppIndicator3 as appindicator
[03:08] <balrog__> and upgrade to
[03:08] <lotuspsychje> fatCow: can we help you?
[03:08] <fatCow> indicator-cpufreq
[03:08] <fatCow>   from gi.repository import Gtk
[03:08] <fatCow>   from gi.repository import AppIndicator3 as appindicator
[03:08] <fatCow> umm...
[03:08] <fatCow> HOld on. SOrry
[03:09] <th0r> Whippy, I would move that file and see if it gets recreated at bootup
[03:09] <Whippy> ok...
[03:09] <fatCow> WHen I try to use indicator_cpufreq I get an error about python version.
[03:09] <fatCow> ANy one know about this?
[03:09] <lotuspsychje> fatCow: did you add a repo or install from official repos?
[03:10] <fatCow> Well it says "GTK" "3.0"
[03:10] <fatCow> official repos
[03:10] <lotuspsychje> fatCow: ubuntu version?
[03:11] <fatCow> indicator-cpufreq
[03:11] <fatCow>   from gi.repository import Gtk
[03:11] <fatCow>   from gi.repository import AppIndicator3 as appindicator
[03:11] <fatCow> shoot
[03:11] <fatCow> it won't paste everything cause i'm a noob.  Mate 16
[03:11] <fatCow> there's an error about gtk and appindicator3
[03:11] <lotuspsychje> !paste | fatCow
[03:12] <fatCow> I think i'm going to give up tonight and sleep.
[03:12] <Whippy> It seems to be spinning on a set of messages in the log starting with cmd c8.... tag 17 dma 2048in down to DRDY ERR and ABRT - lots of these
[03:13] <Whippy> The nvidia log did not get recreated on boot. I think it gets created in the root folder when I try to purge nvidia.
[03:13] <fatCow> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23135364/
[03:14] <th0r> Whippy, those ERR and ABRT messages point to a disk failure of some sort. It is quite possible that a file or set of files got corrupted during the upgrade.
[03:15] <lotuspsychje> fatCow: so your on mate 16.04 updated to 16.04.1?
[03:16] <th0r> Whippy, some of these results might help....https://duckduckgo.com/?q=cmd+c8....+tag+17+dma+2048&t=canonical&ia=web
[03:16] <Whippy> th0r - ok... so it went ok but if a file is corrupt or some such, what do i do now?
[03:16] <lotuspsychje> fatCow: did you try a reboot after indicator install?
[03:17] <th0r> Whippy, there are a couple of choices. You can keep plugging away at it or you can just bite the bullet and reinstall. I don't do a major upgrade online, I download the iso and reinstall.
[03:17] <th0r> Whippy, that also gives me a chance to clean up some of the software i don't really need.
[03:18] <thepiercingarrow> um
[03:18] <thepiercingarrow> is Lubuntu like Ubuntu?
[03:18] <thepiercingarrow> Becuase my Lubuntu install disk keeps saying "Ubuntu"
[03:19] <Whippy> A full re-install would be a real pain given all the packages etc. I use, but I do know what you mean. I'd rather not but I'm not getting anywhere. I'll dl the iso and take it from there. might be back here later. Thanks for the help - great channel.
[03:19] <th0r> thepiercingarrow, lubuntu is just ubuntu package with the lxde desktop
[03:19] <thepiercingarrow> th0r: ohhhhh i dumb
[03:19] <thepiercingarrow> th0r: thanks
[03:22] <fatCow> thanks everyone that help me tonight.  I'm going to sign off and probs be back tomorrow.
[03:28] <thepiercingarrow> My install disk keeps hanging in this screen: http://imgur.com/FCpyfgw
[03:28] <thepiercingarrow> for large periods of time
[03:28] <thepiercingarrow> Do I just wait? There's no progress bar or something?
[03:30] <r063r1> how do i open google drive
[03:30] <tmuwa> thepiercingarrow: Had the dame probem some time ago
[03:31] <r063r1> so how do i do it
[03:31] <tmuwa> from what medium are you booting?
[03:31] <thepiercingarrow> tmuwa: .iso
[03:31] <thepiercingarrow> (cdrom of a virtual machine)
[03:32] <tmuwa> hmmmm. Have you checked the .iso?
[03:32] <thepiercingarrow> tmuwa: should I just wait?
[03:33] <thepiercingarrow> tmuwa: will it eventually continue? or should i reboot?
[03:33] <OerHeks> r063r1, pretty simple http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/08/use-google-drive-ubuntu-16-04-linux-desktops
[03:33] <thepiercingarrow> tmuwa: the .iso? no i havent
[03:33] <thepiercingarrow> should I check the hashes?
[03:34] <thepiercingarrow> tmuwa: yep, I just checked. the hash matches perfectly
[03:34] <tmuwa> first: if yout press ctrl+alt+f1 you can see where the installer hangs
[03:34] <r063r1> explain
[03:34] <OerHeks> r063r1, no, read that url.
[03:35] <r063r1> I had instAlled grive
[03:36] <r063r1> is that supposed to be a linux version of grive and open google drive
[03:36] <r063r1> ______________________________________________________________________
[03:37] <boodllebat> How to make my ssh like pubkey and password ( needed both ) not (pubkey or password) ?
[03:37] <r063r1> ignore the line please
[03:38] <r063r1> hey boodlebat, what is pubkey and ssh
[03:38] <tmuwa> thepiercingarrow: Any hints?
[03:39] <boodllebat> r063r1: ?
[03:39] <boodllebat> r063r1: google ssh
[03:40] <r063r1> I am new to ubuntu and do not know the code for terminals or terms
[03:40] <r063r1> and google did not help
[03:41] <boodllebat> r063r1: then you cannot help me , though its a protocol on top of SHA i guess and ssh is a tool both for server and client end
[03:42] <thepiercingarrow> tmuwa: hints?
[03:42] <thepiercingarrow> tmuwa: no I still have no idea
[03:42] <thepiercingarrow> tmuwa: happens every time, right after I select mirrors
[03:42] <OerHeks> boodllebat, just leave /etc/ssh/sshd_config PubkeyAuthentication to no ?33
[03:42] <tmuwa> thepiercingarrow: have you pressed ctrl+alt+f1 ?
[03:43] <boodllebat> OerHeks: then it will work with only passwd
[03:43] <boodllebat> OerHeks: i want both
[03:43] <r063r1> how do i access grive
[03:43] <boodllebat> OerHeks: like first pubkey , if user does not have pubkey then he will be not prompted for passwd
[03:43] <r063r1> after it is installed
[03:43] <kernelhelp> hello, how do i remove old kernels
[03:43] <thepiercingarrow> tmuwa: not yet. But I just did it and nothing happened
[03:44] <thepiercingarrow> tmuwa: what does it do?
[03:44] <kernelhelp> autoremove command in terminal outputs nothing
[03:44] <r063r1> WHAT IS PUBKEY
[03:44] <kernelhelp> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[03:44] <OerHeks> boodllebat, oh, found it, AuthenticationMethods publickey,password
[03:44] <thepiercingarrow> tmuwa: also, is it possible to do the entire install through the command line? because I might have to..
[03:44] <r063r1> IT IS ALREADY INSTALLED
[03:44] <boodllebat> OerHeks: i have to add this line ?
[03:44] <tmuwa> thepiercingarrow: if you install ubuntu server it is
[03:44] <boodllebat> OerHeks: to my sshd_config ?
[03:44] <OerHeks> http://security.stackexchange.com/questions/17931/possible-to-use-both-private-key-and-password-authentication-for-ssh-login
[03:45] <OerHeks> yes, server side.
[03:45] <r063r1> i AM LOST
[03:45] <r063r1> PLEASE HELP
[03:45] <alice_> how to ping someone here?
[03:45] <OerHeks> r063r1, grive is old, see the url i gave you, online accounts is enough
[03:46] <r063r1> wHAT
[03:46] <th0r> r063r1, turn off your caps lock key
[03:46] <boodllebat> OerHeks: thanks :D
[03:47] <OerHeks> boodllebat, have fun!
[03:47] <OerHeks> i found it with 'force ssh key + password'
[03:48] <boodllebat> OerHeks: how can i prevent my server to print error messages from server like , Permission denied n all
[03:52] <OerHeks> boodllebat, not sure, with a single command one uses 2>/dev/null
[03:53] <r063r1> is that referring to google dro=ive offline
[03:55] <thepiercingarrow> oops
[03:55] <thepiercingarrow> oops
[03:55] <thepiercingarrow> anywayn yeah
[03:56] <Yogesh> what is -mtime
[03:56] <Yogesh> is that in minutes of hours or day?
[03:56] <thepiercingarrow> I can't just do the entire Lubuntu instlal through the command line?
[03:56] <thepiercingarrow> Arch lets me..
[03:57] <Yogesh> anyone?
[03:57] <Yogesh> help me
[03:57] <thepiercingarrow> Yogesh: what
[03:57] <Yogesh> -mtime
[03:57] <Yogesh> if in use
[03:58] <thepiercingarrow> ?
[03:58] <thepiercingarrow> Whats happening - start from the beginning
[03:58] <OerHeks> modified time ( of the file)
[03:58] <Yogesh> find /root/perl-Net* -mtime +5
[03:59] <Yogesh> will that consider files older than 5 mints or 5 hours or 5 day
[03:59] <Yogesh> ?
[03:59] <thepiercingarrow> !tis
[03:59] <OerHeks>  mtime in days  > http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-finding-files-by-date/
[03:59] <thepiercingarrow> !try
[03:59] <thepiercingarrow> !try is <reply>Try it yourself and see
[04:00] <OerHeks> thepiercingarrow, please /msg the bot, thanks
[04:00] <thepiercingarrow> OerHeks: sorry :(
[04:00] <thepiercingarrow> Anyway, what is the ubuntu-server someone mentioned that lets me do the installation from the command line of the install iso?
[04:01] <Yogesh> Thank you <thepiercingarrow>
[04:01] <thepiercingarrow> Yogesh: hm?
[04:01] <Yogesh> yeah its worked
[04:04] <thepiercingarrow> um k np
[04:06] <JohanTheBarbaria> what's upppppppppppppp!!!!!!!!
[04:07] <JohanTheBarbaria> Ubuntu Freenode is bout to not SUCK!!
[04:07] <JohanTheBarbaria> 'Cause I'm here
[04:07] <JohanTheBarbaria> ask your Ubuntu questions.
[04:08] <JohanTheBarbaria> I won't be able to answer, but I'll just google an answer and act like I'm knowledgeable
[04:08] <JohanTheBarbaria> anyone game?  Anyone?  Anyone?
[04:09] <JohanTheBarbaria> have it your way
[04:10] <JohanTheBarbaria> @electronconvulsiv, how you doing man?
[04:10] <JohanTheBarbaria> how I can help you suh?
[04:12] <r063r1> have a good evening or morning I will see you gies tomorrow
[04:13] <Yogesh> Hi
[04:14] <Yogesh> Hey Johan
[04:15] <Yogesh> you still be helping others no matter you google it or you ask others or whatever
[04:16] <devilitezs-35> hi
[04:19] <genbu> hello. i try every solution i found on web to fix splashscreen problem with nvidia driver but i cannot work out.
[04:19] <logan0405> Hi, how can I upgrade from 14.04.5 LTS to the new 16 LTS?
[04:19] <cfhowlett> logan0405, 2 choices. 1.  sudo apt update && sudo do-release-upgrade   2.  download the .iso.  make a bootable USB.  clean install.    my preference is clean install but YMMV
[04:20] <logan0405> I tried sudo apt-get update and do-release-upgrade but it didn't seem to work. lsb_release -a still shows 14.04
[04:20] <cfhowlett> logan0405, plan b
[04:20] <logan0405> OK, maybe my ubuntu version is too many years old.. ancient usbs :^)
[04:21] <cfhowlett> 14.04 is not ancient logan0405 but ...
[04:21] <cfhowlett> is your software updater set to "long term support releases"?
[04:21] <logan0405> how do i set it?
[04:22] <cfhowlett> system > software updater > settings
[04:22] <cfhowlett> updates > notify me of a new ubuntu version: For Long-term support versions
[04:22] <logan0405> yeah it was set to that, I kept trying to update it but it never worked so i turned it off
[04:23] <cfhowlett>  .... so of COURSE it won't update now!
[04:23] <logan0405> ah
[04:23] <logan0405> thank u :) ill try it with that knowledge
[04:23] <cfhowlett> happy2help
[04:42] <tyupis> Trump was here
[04:43] <wtchrpr> ronald?
[05:01] <botnut> hi all - anyone tried this before on ubuntu
[05:01] <botnut> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8unagKHPGt8
[05:02] <OerHeks> botnut, can you tell us what?
[05:03] <botnut> oerheks - the video shows how to enable "hidden" cores in intel cpus under windows
[05:03] <SupreX> Hello!
[05:03] <botnut> i hadnt heard about this before but according to the video - intel ships cpus with double the amount of cores - so if you have 4 cores - you actually have 8 - but its used as a backup per say - which ive never heard of
[05:04] <SupreX> Great... a support channel for ubuntu.
[05:04] <OerHeks> botnut, oh, those stories have a clue, not interested.
[05:04] <botnut> huh?
[05:05] <SupreX> I have a issue with freeradius... I'm about to setup on EAP-TLS on my Ubuntu LAMP server... Can I ask about this here?
[05:06] <cannon2> that's a thio joe vid
[05:06] <OerHeks> "Double Your Computer CPU Speed for Free" - bogus.
[05:08] <botnut> yeah
[05:08] <botnut> figured as much
[05:08] <botnut> but
[05:08] <botnut> when intel first came out with the pentium...
[05:08] <botnut> waayyyy back..
[05:08] <botnut> they had pentium and celeron.. which were essentially the same chip except one failed certain tests and the other didnt..
[05:09] <botnut> back then you could hack the celerons.. and it work for the most part
[05:09] <botnut> was wondering if the same applied here i guess
[05:09] <OerHeks> pentium and celeron are totally different designs, my best guess this dude uses HT activly
[05:10] <botnut> im speaking about the first pentiums and celerons
[05:10] <botnut> not the current ones
[05:11] <botnut> but either way sounds bogus
[05:11] <OerHeks> yeah, if he was right, why no-one else writes about it?
[05:12] <OerHeks> 1st i thought you were pointing at the hidden core, in the latest intel generation.
[05:12] <cannon2> thio joe is a parody - comic youtube post - it is not real
[05:12] <botnut> yeah realized that
[05:12] <botnut> never heard of him
[05:13] <botnut> oh well
[05:13] <botnut> there goes the hope for my old i3 laptop
[05:13] <botnut> lol
[05:13] <botnut> its performs like a champ..
[05:14] <OerHeks> He is like the oh-gosh-it-is-friday-and-i-have-no-story-for-this-weekly-edition :-D
[05:14] <OerHeks> hey! i run i3 too, perfect desktop.
[05:14] <botnut> well my desktop is an i7
[05:14] <user____2> hey guys just curious, im sure alot of u are programers that dable with shell scripting amungst othere things..... what is ur go to music when u want to be in the "ZONE"? i know silly question but pelase entertain it :)
[05:14] <botnut> my fuck around laptop is an i3
[05:14] <botnut> die antwoord
[05:15] <user____2> sweet checking it out
[05:15] <botnut> rage against the machine is nice
[05:16] <botnut> underworld too if im in the mood for some old stuff
[05:16] <Threads> taylor swift
[05:16] <botnut> lol
[05:16] <Rarrikins> botnut: Come on. Antwoord doesn't really deserve to die.
[05:16] <botnut> lmfao
[05:16] <user____2> lmfao
[05:16] <botnut> cookie thumper is funny
[05:21] <SupreX> OK... toward the documentation my "anyone/someone knows" was dumb question... I would say the one typing this documentation is rather dumb telling new, unaware, or often unskilled users they're asking "dumb" questions... anyway lets try again. This is my specific question. I have installed freeradius 3 on latest Ubuntu. I want to use bscrypt instead of i.e. MD5 or SHA256... since it's a way more secure hashing mechanism. But I don't k
[05:25] <catopett> Someone used PyBOMBS?
[05:27] <SupreX> can't anybody just tell if I can use bcrypt with freeradius... or if I have to use a different encryption algorithm...
[05:27] <OerHeks> SupreX, i cannot find an working answer, maybe you can reask in #ubuntu-server too?
[05:28] <SupreX> yes... thanks, OerHeks.
[05:28] <SupreX> Oh... nobody there. :/
[05:28] <OerHeks> all i read is about reasons with salt/hash and place of storage that could be vulnerable.
[05:29] <OerHeks> 471 people there
[05:29] <SupreX> sorry misstyped
[05:29] <SupreX> I'm in
[05:29] <catopett> Someone used PyBOMBS?
[05:30] <SupreX> spelled wrong*
[05:33] <caliculk> What allows for KDE's Plasma login screen to authenticate a user? After enabling auto-login and having problems, I was able to login and turn off autologin. However, now when I boot up the machine, I can no longer login via a GUI. I can login via console fine.
[05:40] <user____2> hey guys can I ask noob questions here?
[05:41] <siva_machina> I don't see why not
[05:41] <user____2> like how do i change my name from "user____2" or why is my terminal name "user@user-System-Product-Name-Invalid-entry-length-16-Fixed-up-to-11:~$" and how di change it
[05:42] <OerHeks> it seems to be that @user-System-Product-Name-Invalid-entry-length-16-Fixed-up-to-11 is your hostname?
[05:42] <OerHeks> see this factoid how to change it ..
[05:42] <OerHeks> !hostname
[05:42] <siva_machina> user is the name you gave your account. the part after the @ should be the name you end up giving your computer
[05:44] <user____2> so when I am editing the names, it wont let me change it even unser sudo, is there a way to edit?
[05:45] <user____2> I gusse I should look for a "vi" guid
[05:47] <OerHeks> in 16.04 / systemD one can set hostname with:  hostnamectl set-hostname <newname>
[05:47] <OerHeks> ( with sudo ofcourse)
[05:47] <user____2> U R the MAN! cool tyvm I should make a command guid, notepad ++ compatable with linux?
[05:47] <user____2> sry ill just check lol
[05:49] <user____2> so, what kind of file types can i use with linux? and is there a way to use .exe if its not an option?
[05:49] <cfhowlett> what exact .exe program can you not live without?  probably a linux equivalent
[05:50] <user____2> notepad ++
[05:50] <cfhowlett> http://alternativeto.net/software/notepad-plus-plus/?platform=linux user____2
[05:50] <user____2> tyvm
[05:54] <user____2> is there a way to optomize the most out of my systeam (tweeks) that are mainly for linux? for example I have 64 gig of ram and I would use 44 gigs as a ram disk, that kina thing
[05:54] <Black-Hole> .
[05:55] <jablo> After upgrade from Ubuntu 14.04 to 16.04.1 this week-end (most grievuous upgrade ever, sadly), I still am facing the following problem: I cannot enable my cryptdisks while booting - if they are enabled (in crypttab and fstab), the system won't allow me to type the crypt password before dropping me into an emergency repair shell.
[05:57] <root____1> q george
[05:58] <jablo> My crypttab and fstab. I need to comment everyting in crypttab and everything except the two UUID lines  in fstab in order to boot properly.
[05:58] <jablo> http://pastebin.com/KNG4AUQ7
[05:58] <jablo> What's with Ubuntu 16.04.1 and cryptdisks? Anyone have it working?
[06:02] <jinge> jinge1001
[06:04] <user____2> so as far as installing software, is it as simple as duble clicking deb file?
[06:04] <cfhowlett> user____2, usually but before you go with a .deb check to see if the package is in the repos
[06:04] <cfhowlett> .deb is not the preferred option.  install from repos is
[06:04] <jablo> user____2 I would normally start "synaptic" and select the package from the repositories instead.
[06:05] <user____2> ok this is way beyond my understanding what is the repo?
[06:05] <cfhowlett> software center i.e. software "store".
[06:06] <user____2> oh ok
[06:06] <_unreal_> user____2, repo=repositories, baicly its  text file that has the web addresses for upgrade software packages
[06:07] <_unreal_> thats not an exact answer but its a good close description
[06:07] <user____2> oh i see, so whjen u saying check the the repo, is that a location in my dir that houseing those files?
[06:08] <cfhowlett> user____2, no we mean look in the software center for your pacakge
[06:08] <user____2> ok got u
[06:08] <_unreal_> the software center is a GUI graphical user interface for software searching researching and download and removing "un install"
[06:09] <_unreal_> or you can do it all manually in CLI=command line interface           think super advanced dos
[06:10] <_unreal_> user____2, I take it your new to linux?
[06:10] <user____2> ya im fimiliar with CLI, im a network admin. I wantedted to reaserch if I can gain something out of linux
[06:11] <user____2> so im trying to gain as much knowledge of linux since it would be a ton cheaper then windows
[06:11] <user____2> yes I am new indeed
[06:11] <_unreal_> network admin? or windows I assume
[06:11] <user____2> Network its a small company I do it all
[06:11] <_unreal_> dude very few network systems run on windows any more
[06:12] <_unreal_> to much overhead, to unstable, to  exposed and un secure
[06:12] <user____2> Xd my experiance has been all networking stuff like cisco junos and alcatel this is somewhat new to me
[06:12] <_unreal_> dude I'm talking to you using a cubox
[06:12] <user____2> lol nice
[06:13] <_unreal_> do you know what a cubox is?
[06:13] <alkisg> Before systemd, when I wanted to manually sync the time for some reason, I ran: `ntpdate ntp.ubuntu.com`. Now it says "the NTP socket is in use, exiting", probably because ntpd is running. How can I force an immediate time sync?
[06:13] <user____2> well I was going to use my best freind the internet to find out, Im guessing a low recource dumb device?
[06:14] <_unreal_> low power thats about it... but that just gives you  an idea of the power of linux
[06:14] <user____2> oh wow that is impresive unreal
[06:14] <user____2> wow and suer cheap too!
[06:14] <user____2> that is mind blowing... how do i not know about this...
[06:15]  * OerHeks mumbles hidden costs
[06:15] <_unreal_> look at rasbery pi's they run full linux with 3D graphics everything and there like $15-$30
[06:15] <_unreal_> OerHeks, hehehehe
[06:15] <user____2> and do u just use storage over the lan?
[06:15] <_unreal_> what are you trying to do with linux
[06:15] <_unreal_> ? no it has an external HD
[06:16] <Zach443> Hey guys, I'm just setting up a new VPS with Apache, and when I uploaded my html files over FTP I am getting a 503 forbidden when trying to access the page in my browser. Anyone know what would be causing this?
[06:16] <user____2> well I want to see if i can use it to monitor the network. SNMP applications and so on
[06:16] <_unreal_> so as I said what are you trying to do with linux curently?
[06:16] <_unreal_> sure
[06:16] <jablo> Is anyone using cryptdisks with ubuntu 16.04.1, after upgrading from 14.04 I cannot boot if I enable my cryptdisks (/etc/crypttab) and encrypted partitions.
[06:16] <user____2> Id like to see if all aplications for the endusers can be found in linux and is it sustainable
[06:17] <_unreal_> user____2, yes yes and yes
[06:18] <elias_a> user____2: You probably cannot do everything on linux or at least it is not worth it. But over 90% of stuff can be done in linux.
[06:18] <user____2> and last I would like to see if it is scalable in longterm useage IE new producs/develpoment/duration it would take for a user to get fimiliar with the new OS
[06:19] <_unreal_> user____2, there is little difference. windows programs can to a degree run on linux using WINE
[06:20] <user____2> For my personal usage I am realy curious to see how optomized it can be.
[06:20] <_unreal_> lol dude linux is 10x faster then windows on hardware that is half the specs
[06:20] <elias_a> user____2: The things I need proprietary OS to: 1) connection to my old wrist pacemaker (win only binaries), 2) running the diagnostics sw of Citroën and Peugeot cars (Win binaries only).
[06:20] <user____2> well as far as windwos programs I was thinking of running VMware to our server since we have a windows server license anyway and hopfully take down some of the overhead so i wont have to upgrade the ram and so on
[06:20] <_unreal_> doing all the same tasks shy of  directx 3d graphics
[06:21] <cfhowlett> user____2, wouldn't running an ubuntu server solve such problems?
[06:21] <_unreal_> user____2, vmware runs on linux very well.
[06:21] <_unreal_> cfhowlett, guy has never used linux
[06:22] <cfhowlett>          !
[06:22] <user____2> well it would be both, If i get a linux/redheat im guess server I can take downt he cost of not having to upgrade all the systeam.
[06:22] <_unreal_> readheat?
[06:23] <elias_a> user____2: Are you french?
[06:23] <user____2> with how everything works, im guessing i have around 5-8 monthjs of learning everythign i need to upgread to linux **redhat**
[06:23] <user____2> no egyption, but its been a long day lol
[06:24] <_unreal_> user____2, do you have a spare laptop?
[06:24] <_unreal_> or an older laptop collecting dust
[06:24] <cfhowlett> user____2, if user testing bear in mind the suggested deployment practices:  1. introduce changes incrementally rather than whole hog, i.e. install libreoffice word, provide training and gradually transition.  Also, be aware that it is quite simple to duplicate the look and feel of windows XP/7 - an indulgence your users may appreciate.
[06:24] <user____2> so what I got out of this conversation is I can do all that stuff now i have to find out how
[06:25] <user____2> Noted, cfhowlett
[06:25] <_unreal_> so... user____2 do you have an older laptop or a spare one that is not being used
[06:25] <user____2> unreal i dont own any comapny yes ,but cant do anythign with those
[06:25] <_unreal_> ?
[06:26] <_unreal_> do YOU own a laptop
[06:26] <user____2> I own a tablet and will be getting a laptop soon
[06:26] <user____2> I run form desktop
[06:26]  * _unreal_ palm to face
[06:26] <elias_a> I would really like to know what user____2 's native language is. Never seen this kind of written engrish.
[06:26] <_unreal_> dude you need a laptop, what country do you live in?
[06:27] <user____2> lol sry to disapoint tablet has been working for me
[06:27] <user____2> arabic elias
[06:27] <_unreal_> I have a reason for what I'm saying
[06:27] <elias_a> user____2: Ok. That explains it. :)
[06:27] <_unreal_> user____2, it would be a good idea to use a laptop that you can load linux on as a test bed/personal training system
[06:27] <cfhowlett> user____2, https://www.linux.com/news/top-five-linux-deployment-mistakes
[06:28] <elias_a> user____2: No offense. I am multilingual and interested in lingual communications. :)
[06:28] <user____2> xd, pelase share I am getting one but it will be mid to high end latptop
[06:28] <user____2> then u would like noam chomsky
[06:28] <cfhowlett> user____2, "high end"?  nice!  my vote: xps 13 ubuntu developer edition with all the treats
[06:28] <elias_a> user____2: Me? I do like Noam. And also communicating with him. :P
[06:29] <user____2> I was looking at the zbook I think its called by hp
[06:29] <_unreal_> user____2, get a laptop with hardware virtulizing
[06:29] <user____2> he is a gr8 thinker and amazing lingustic
[06:30] <elias_a> user____2: Just keep coming here for support. And if you are new to IRC ask for help about that too. The most efiicient way of using IRC in my opinion is Irssi.
[06:30] <user____2> hmm can that be utlized diffrently on linux then windows?
[06:30] <user____2> ya someone helped me set up irssi so im comeiong thru terminal now
[06:31] <user____2> best part about this is that I keep getting guides to do everything I need. by  far best community I ran in to so far
[06:31] <elias_a> user____2: The important thing you probably want is to get your irssi to run on a machine that is always on. Then you just connect to that irssi instance when you are online.
[06:32] <bipul> Hi, I would like to know, How disk partitioning is being done during installation of ubuntu. I would be thankful, if someone shows me script to that automate this task.
[06:32] <elias_a> user____2: You can run irssi in a virtual cli called screen. Then you just connect to that screen.
[06:33] <bipul> script that automate this task*
[06:33] <user____2> is there a guid for that?
[06:33] <elias_a> bipul: Are you installing Ubuntu to a load of similar PCs or what?
[06:34] <elias_a> user____2: Here, for example: http://carina.org.uk/screenirssi.shtml
[06:34] <bipul> elias_a, I would like to understand how disk partitioning  is being done in ubuntu during installation.
[06:34] <user____2> tyvm
[06:35] <elias_a> bipul: Ok. Do not know about that.
[06:35] <_unreal_> user____2, partitioning can be done many ways and still work the same
[06:36] <bipul> :)
[06:36] <OerHeks> bipul, look at examples of preseed files https://help.ubuntu.com/16.04/installation-guide/example-preseed.txt
[06:37] <user____2> any tips to customizing the heck out of my desktop?
[06:37] <goodguy> hi,my mint machine is not booting up in gui mode (mate desktop) today unexpectedly,what can go wrong?
[06:37]  * _unreal_ BLAAA palm to face, I'm upgradeing one dual boot laptop right now from win7 to win10 free upgrade thing, sooooo slow, 
[06:37] <cfhowlett> goodguy, you have to ask mint.  not ubuntu.
[06:37] <OerHeks> goodguy, install ubuntu, mint is not supported here.
[06:37] <cfhowlett> !mint | goodguy
[06:37] <goodguy> woah! ok
[06:37] <bipul> Thank you OerHeks
[06:37] <_unreal_> I am not a fan of linux mint I tried it and it pissed me off
[06:37] <_unreal_> lxde is better or xubuntu
[06:37] <goodguy> yeah you bet
[06:38] <goodguy> mint sucks
[06:38] <goodguy> such a pain to install and throws errors!
[06:38] <goodguy> should i go for ubuntu?
[06:38] <_unreal_> when in roam
[06:38] <goodguy> is it better than mint?
[06:38] <_unreal_> mint is a fork of ubuntu
[06:39] <_unreal_> so duh yes its better
[06:39] <goodguy> lol
[06:39] <goodguy> like much better than mint?
[06:39] <varaindemian> package for mounting iso files wit a gui?
[06:39] <user____2> ]and do you know any guides to set up a tunnel to my desktop at work? is that supported without apps like teamviwer and such?
[06:39] <cfhowlett>  _unreal_ easy enough to test and choose for yourself.  sudo apt install lxde xfce4      then logout, choose your Desktop Environment and login.  Note: this method allows testing of the DE only - NOT the full desktop.  However, installing the full desktop is also quite easy
[06:40] <cfhowlett> goodguy, considering you choose to come to #UBUNTU for mint support, I would suggest Ubuntu is better support.  Just sayin'
[06:40] <goodguy> yeah,i think so guys at mint dont seem so friendly
[06:40] <_unreal_> cfhowlett, I did say to him when in roam
[06:40] <SebthreeBQM10HD> morning
[06:40] <cfhowlett> ... ?     nice pun             Rome
[06:40] <goodguy> so ubuntu it is,gonna install it now,any particular favourite versions?
[06:41] <SebthreeBQM10HD> goodguy, just joined here, but what was that about mint and your ubuntu version I Wonder
[06:41] <_unreal_> rome roam'ing ;)
[06:41] <cfhowlett> goodguy, default ubuntu is Unity.  from there you can install any of the other flavors
[06:41] <captainACE> FLAVOURS AS IN DESKTOPS?
[06:41] <cfhowlett> !CAPS
[06:41] <_unreal_> captainACE, you'll figure it out
[06:42] <captainACE> yeah,thanks!
[06:42] <_unreal_> captainACE, yes as in desktop versions
[06:42] <captainACE> its more customisable than mint i suppose?
[06:42] <_unreal_> lxde, unity, xubuntu
[06:42] <SebthreeBQM10HD> captainACE, flavours as in yeah desktop environments and window mangers, other interfaces etc
[06:44] <_unreal_> this new laptop that my brother gave me, I think I'm going to quad boot it, win/ubuntu/fedora/debian
[06:44] <cfhowlett> user____2, worth a read if you are deploying to in a multiple user environment:  goo.gl/z1UtRR
[06:44] <SebthreeBQM10HD> captainACE, mint is a bit pointless now or not as relevent in my opinon now.  since the two interfaces it's known to be good for Cinnamon and Mate, run well just fine in plenyt of other distros.  they also don't have codecs by defefault anymore, which was a main reason many people wnt for it over say Ubuntu.  most distros don't do codecs by default for potentai legal reasons.  codecs as in like mp and avi suppo
[06:44] <SebthreeBQM10HD> rt, propritary formats
[06:44] <captainACE> quad boot,MOTHER of GOd
[06:45] <captainACE> yeah,mint is such a pain now gives errors all the time plus i alwasy have to boot it in recovery,so that it doenst throw errors
[06:45] <SebthreeBQM10HD> _unreal quad boot it with what of interest ?
[06:45] <captainACE> bye guys,gonna install ubuntu :) BRB
[06:45] <SebthreeBQM10HD> captainACE,  plus Mint can't run Unity, or easilly, when I Treid before so about two years ago now, it was black lissted or something coudn't install from repos
[06:45] <SebthreeBQM10HD> even though UBuntu based
[06:45] <SebthreeBQM10HD> oh they gone already oh well
[06:46] <_unreal_> he'll be much happier
[06:46] <_unreal_> whoo hoo 91% done 2 hours later
[06:46] <SebthreeBQM10HD> _unreal what was there origainl issue, I Had just joiend so, and yes what are you quad booting with ?
[06:47] <_unreal_> my brother gave me a laptop that was not working, ended up being a all but totally clogged heat synk, and bad memory and bent memory pins
[06:47]  * SebthreeBQM10HD has an hour or so to uhm well do not much in really :d, so thought would be here for a bit 
[06:47] <_unreal_> now that I solved the last issue its running like a champ
[06:48] <SebthreeBQM10HD> _unreal ok, but you said about a quad boot, I am curous which oses you want to put on :)
[06:48] <_unreal_> just loaded win7 few days ago finally worked, now doing the win10 update and then will start getting the real OS's installed
[06:48] <_unreal_> win10, ubuntu fedora debian
[06:49] <SebthreeBQM10HD> _unreal yeah I got a lap top that needs setting up again, quite sure the WIndows install has some kind of malware in it even now
[06:49] <SebthreeBQM10HD> or probably
[06:49] <SebthreeBQM10HD> then when that's finally done I might do a quad boot or something like that as well
[06:49] <_unreal_> windows is malware
[06:49] <cfhowlett> _unreal_, no need to bash other OS here, please.  thank you.
[06:50] <skar> :)
[06:51] <SebthreeBQM10HD> skar, :d
[06:52] <_unreal_> not bashing, just not lying. I had to shut off all kinds of tracking ware thats built into win10 on my daughters laptop I just got her.
[06:53] <SebthreeBQM10HD> _unreal tracking such as?
[06:53] <cfhowlett>  ... so moving on to UBUNTU support ...
[06:53] <SebthreeBQM10HD> cfhowlett, heh indeed, but no issues at the moment
[06:53] <ducasse> this is still offtopic
[06:56] <airstrike> how do I list my list of PPAs added to apt-get?
[06:56] <_unreal_> is there a kids "mode" software for linux?
[06:56] <SebthreeBQM10HD> _unreal parental controls ?
[06:56] <_unreal_> kind of like a netnanny or kids mode on tablets
[06:56] <_unreal_> ya
[06:56] <airstrike> (I know I said list twice.. it's late)
[06:56] <ducasse> airstrike: look at the software updater, or in /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[06:56] <_unreal_> toying with loading linux on her laptop as dual boot
[06:56] <amazoniantoad> Can anyone help me install ubuntu touch on my phone?Having some issues
[06:56] <SebthreeBQM10HD> _unreal yes, but Ubuntu doesn't just have an optoion to turn something like that on, unlike certain other distros
[06:56] <cfhowlett> !touch | amazoniantoad
[06:57] <cfhowlett> _unreal_, edubuntu
[06:57] <SebthreeBQM10HD> _unreal however I think you could still install Dansgaurdian yourself and set that up for example
[06:57] <_unreal_> edubuntu?
[06:57] <amazoniantoad> cfhowlett: the channel is dead though
[06:57] <SebthreeBQM10HD> _unreal cfhowlett  Edubuntu what, that's more than just parentl controls
[06:57] <_unreal_> never heard of, is that a program or a desktop?
[06:57] <SebthreeBQM10HD> _unreal it's like a customised version of UBuntu for schools and kids, but you can install the stuff it has into normal Ubuntu anyway
[06:58] <SebthreeBQM10HD> !edubuntu
[06:58] <skar> just added linux dual boot and didnt realize there is an entirely different web out there that ive never seen
[06:58] <ducasse> amazoniantoad: we don't know anything about ubuntu on phones, we support desktops
[06:58] <bpcpi> I have 2 pcs first windows second  ubuntu in  a lan how do a setup a sharing folder between them
[06:58] <ducasse> !samba | bpcpi
[06:58] <airstrike> apparently i've installed python3.5 from a ppa and it didn't install a 3.5 version of a dependency with it (python3-gdbm)
[06:58] <SebthreeBQM10HD> _unreal may be worth a try acstaully, but some things are going to be a bit much, for your dauaghter it seems, I mean set up wise software etc
[06:59] <SebthreeBQM10HD> _unreal have you instaled any other interfaces etc into Ubuntu yet, or are you on defaults still ?
[06:59] <user____2>  cfhowlett, any tipes as far as creating a tunnel to my work PC, I dont want to use an app like teamviewer I just want a cli bash that i can run some commands from my work pc if i have to
[06:59] <_unreal_> ahhhh on her computer or on mine?
[06:59] <_unreal_> I have not loaded anything on her computer
[06:59] <ducasse> user____2: ssh
[06:59] <cfhowlett> user____2, sorry but that's above my rating.  ssh for starters
[06:59] <bpcpi> thanks @ubottu and ducasse
[06:59] <SebthreeBQM10HD> _unreal  well the one you are testing out UBuntu on, would be  good one to potentially try Edubuntu on and things like that
[07:00] <_unreal_> I'm looking to find out any input from others about options
[07:00] <SebthreeBQM10HD> _unreal and you don't need to do a full re install of something or the other for edubuntu, since can get it from the repos
[07:00] <SebthreeBQM10HD> also uhmm
[07:00] <SebthreeBQM10HD> !dansguardina
[07:00] <SebthreeBQM10HD> !dansgaurdian
[07:00] <SebthreeBQM10HD> bot probably has no factoid for parentl contorls anyway but yeah
[07:00] <user____2> ok, sounds good ill set that up. any recomended VPN? Im not sure if that is outside the scope of ubuntu support or not but if u have recomendations please share
[07:01] <cfhowlett> _unreal_, indeed easy to add: sudo apt install edubuntu-desktop
[07:01] <_unreal_> looking at the edu site currently
[07:01] <SebthreeBQM10HD> _unreal yep sudo apt-get install edubuntu-desktop  or  do it the graphical way  the software centre
[07:01] <_unreal_> hum 14.04
[07:02] <SebthreeBQM10HD> _unreal  if you installed 16.04 and install edubuntu from the command  or graphical way, you'll get later stuff
[07:02] <ducasse> user____2: openvpn is nice, but ssh is encrypted so you don't need a vpn for that
[07:02] <SebthreeBQM10HD> _unreal  website might be a bit outdated in some places, not sure let's see
[07:02] <user____2> VPN isnt for work, but ty ducasse!
[07:03] <cfhowlett> actually, that is current.  edubuntu team did not release a 16.04 version
[07:03] <_unreal_> oohhhhh typing touter http://www.edubuntu.org/screenshots
[07:03] <SebthreeBQM10HD> cfhowlett, hmm so what would get installed into a 16.04 system when doing the command then, older 14.04 type packages mostly or ?
[07:03] <SebthreeBQM10HD> cfhowlett, and why didn't they do a 16.04 versison ?
[07:03] <Mathisen> _unreal_, maybe read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ParentalControls
[07:04] <cfhowlett> SebthreeBQM10HD, nope, I believe you would have to drop to 14.04 to install via apt       as for why no 16.04 .... I don't know but it is not encouraging for longevity.
[07:04] <SebthreeBQM10HD> _unreal_  Edubuntu is still worth a try may just be a bit more than you expected etc
[07:04] <cfhowlett> SebthreeBQM10HD, actually, let me test
[07:05] <SebthreeBQM10HD> cfhowlett, yeah I am usig Ubuntu tablet, so I can't :d
[07:05] <SebthreeBQM10HD> not putting that lap top on either so
[07:05] <_unreal_> I may load ubuntu tomorrow onto her computer
[07:05] <SebthreeBQM10HD> _unreal wait  cfhowlett is going to try the edubuntu command for you in a 16.04  system, it seems
[07:05] <_unreal_> I figure she's 7 and getting into tech, maybe I can embed the basics of programing etc... in her early
[07:05] <_unreal_> ok
[07:06] <cfhowlett> SebthreeBQM10HD, no need:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/23135920/
[07:06] <SebthreeBQM10HD> _unreal we are wondering if get mostly later stuff stil as in 16.04, but then the older 14.04 stuff, if running the command
[07:06] <SebthreeBQM10HD> an it will be great when links uhmm work properly in  the ARM  progarms on the tablet in Liberitne, but not yet, so  uhmm let's type that in to a browser hmm
[07:06] <cfhowlett> SebthreeBQM10HD, confirmed that 16.04 ubuntu can install edubuntu desktop
[07:07] <SebthreeBQM10HD> cfhowlett, it mainly just puts in artwork from 14.04 time I guess, whilst keeping the system up to date on 16.04 packages oherwise ?
[07:07] <cfhowlett> SebthreeBQM10HD, seems to be the case. note that I'm on 16.04 xubuntu
[07:07] <SebthreeBQM10HD> _unreal have you got Ubuntu installed now or ?
[07:08] <_unreal_> on my daughters laptop hehe no...
[07:08] <SebthreeBQM10HD> cfhowlett, yep that would make sense, since Edubuntu is really just a re branded Ubuntu, with a few extra programs of it's own as well
[07:08] <_unreal_> I just said I may load ubuntu tomorrow
[07:08] <_unreal_> on her computer
[07:08] <SebthreeBQM10HD> _unreal on your own lap top ? are you on it ?
[07:08] <_unreal_> on this computer is running xbununtu
[07:08] <_unreal_> little netbook
[07:09] <SebthreeBQM10HD> _unreal  ok like cfhowlett then, so why not try out edubuntu on your own computer first,  you just got to download things from the repos, and select it from the log in screen
[07:09] <_unreal_> single core atom with 2gb, it aint not fast
[07:09] <user____2> so im trying to install this sublime-text_build-3114_amd64.deb // duble click did nothing, so i extracted. I ahve 2 .tar and a debian-binary "2" was all that was in teh binary file. I think I am lost as far as the installation. tips would be gr8tly apreciated
[07:09] <_unreal_> not tonight, its 3am, I'm waiting on this other laptop to finish the win10 upgrade so I can hit the button 2 times and go to bed
[07:09] <SebthreeBQM10HD> _unreal  maybe edubuntu would change your plymouth boot up screen to a edubuntu one and the log in screen as well,  but if it does and you care about stuff like that, you can change to what  you had etc back later
[07:10] <Rarrikins> user____2: Don't extract. Instead, go to the terminal, and run `sudo dpkg -i sublime*.deb; sudo apt install -f -y`
[07:10] <_unreal_> I could care less
[07:10] <user____2> ok will try that Rarrikins
[07:10] <Rarrikins> user____2: You might need to switch to your Downloads directory first, though.
[07:10] <_unreal_> but this netbook is running 13 or 14.04 I forget
[07:10] <SebthreeBQM10HD> _unreal  ah yes time zones, it's earlyish morning here, but your in America or whatever so
[07:10] <SebthreeBQM10HD> 08:10
[07:10] <_unreal_> ya florida
[07:10] <cfhowlett> _unreal_, arrrr!   /offended English Teacher/ I *COULDN'T* care less.
[07:11] <_unreal_> heh
[07:11] <SebthreeBQM10HD> cfhowlett,  unless your teaching British English, and not how to do things the American way instead etc,  your not a real English teacher, h eh  :d
[07:11] <_unreal_> cfhowlett, I come from maine, maine talk is much though very different, like people from england.
[07:12] <cfhowlett>    !!!    t r i g g e r e d
[07:13] <SebthreeBQM10HD> _unreal  no no the Americans are differnet not us :d.  anyway back on topic uhmm.  ok good luck installilng after  your sleep
[07:13] <user____2> tyvm Rarrikins that worked flawlessly
[07:14] <Rarrikins> user____2: No problem.
[07:14] <SebthreeBQM10HD> unreal_  ^
[07:14] <SebthreeBQM10HD> _unreal_
[07:14] <_unreal_> sorry was chasing a palmetto
[07:16] <_unreal_> florida has very big bugs
[07:17] <SebthreeBQM10HD> _unreal_,   uh  I Remember a boat trip, that also took us to a island when visiting Florida in August 2008,  where well lots of mosquitoes ah,  but well this is all off topic.
[07:20] <leroides> @search trevor-roper
[07:24] <user____2> so I did sudo edit etc/hostname (changed to new name) then went in to the sudo edit etc/hosts and delted old one and changed it to new username. that did not change the hostname
[07:24] <OerHeks> username? it should be the same hostname
[07:24] <OerHeks> !hostname
[07:25] <user____2> user@user-System-Product-Name-Invalid-entry-length-16-Fixed-up-to-11:~$ sudo hostnamectl set-hostname Eth3r
[07:25] <user____2> sudo: unable to resolve host user-System-Product-Name-Invalid-entry-length-16-Fixed-up-to-11
[07:25] <user____2> [sudo] password for user:
[07:25] <user____2> that did not work either
[07:25] <user____2> user@user-System-Product-Name-Invalid-entry-length-16-Fixed-up-to-11:~$
[07:26] <user____2> Ya like u said I made sure they where the same
[07:26] <OerHeks> Now you have to boot in recoverymode, and change it properly
[07:26] <_unreal_> user____2, do you have pastebinit installed on the computer?
[07:26] <user____2> I do not
[07:26] <_unreal_> if not: sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[07:27] <OerHeks> no need for pastebinit >  cat <file> | nc termbin.com 9999
[07:27] <user____2> wow.... I can realy just isntall stuff like that....?
[07:27] <OerHeks> he cannot install anything now, with sudo broken
[07:27] <_unreal_> then all you have to do is type a command that you want to show others: dmesg |pastebinit            for example
[07:27] <user____2> sudo is working fine oerheks just isntalled pastbionit
[07:28] <_unreal_> it will give you a link post the link in here, right mouse copy link or drag to select and ctrl+shift+c   for copy in console
[07:28] <user____2> ok will try it now
[07:28] <_unreal_> and ctrl+shift+v for paste in console every else its normal ctrl+c ctrl+v
[07:28] <david__> nick
[07:29] <user____2> so want me to past etc/hosts and etc/hostnam?
[07:29] <_unreal_> user____2, there are many ways to do the same thing and many over lapping programs that do the same things
[07:29] <_unreal_> user____2, use a pasting site
[07:30] <_unreal_> dont paste everything here
[07:30] <_unreal_> ether folow OerHeks suggestion or just use pastebinit,
[07:30] <user____2> understood
[07:30] <user____2> I am trying to do the pastbin thing
[07:30] <_unreal_> command | pastebinit
[07:30] <_unreal_> | = pipe or pipe one command into an other
[07:32] <_unreal_> like wget file | gzip -x | cp extracted file /home/Download/temp
[07:32] <_unreal_> download file, unzip it, copy soemthing from its output to some location
[07:32] <_unreal_> much faster then gui
[07:33] <OerHeks>  /home/$USER/Download/temp # else it ends up where you don't look for it
[07:33] <_unreal_> user____2, using CLI you can do almost anything on a computer local or remote
[07:33] <OerHeks> * unless you name is Download, that is oke
[07:34] <_unreal_> OerHeks, my example was just a poor example of doing a multi task's
[07:34] <_unreal_> I could have gotten into using && and other commands for chaining commands
[07:34] <_unreal_> dont want to flood him with to much ya know
[07:34] <OerHeks> :-)
[07:35] <_unreal_> I think I may just give up and go to bed
[07:35] <_unreal_> win10 upgrade 94%
[07:35] <_unreal_> and I have to wip this computer and do the same thing tomorrow
[07:35] <_unreal_> sigh
[07:36] <user____2> ok i hope this works http://termbin.com/u68d
[07:36] <user____2> hmmm came out looking like a mess
[07:37] <user____2> I did a vi on the file name then did the vi (filename) | nc termbin.com 9999
[07:37] <_unreal_> what are you trying to do?
[07:37] <_unreal_> and use nano not vi
[07:37] <_unreal_> far more user friendly
[07:37] <user____2> ok, send it what I see my username and stuff to see where i went wrong with the change
[07:38] <_unreal_> ?
[07:38] <_unreal_> what
[07:38] <user____2> so I wanted to change my username oerheks sugguested some things I tried them but still is not working so figured provide out put and I can be pointed to where i went wrong
[07:39] <Rarrikins> user____2: If you're using termbin, use `cat`.
[07:39] <user____2> ok
[07:39] <Rarrikins> user____2: `vi` will give extraneous stuff.
[07:39] <_unreal_> vi is old and expects you to know all the commands by heart
[07:39] <user____2> sweet! u rock man
[07:39] <user____2> http://termbin.com/sfpr
[07:40] <user____2> so thats where i changed my username still not working, where did i go wrong?
[07:41] <_unreal_> thats for networking
[07:41] <_unreal_> you want to add a user or change your current user name?
[07:41] <user____2> change it from that rediculous name to something else
[07:42] <user____2> brb
[07:45] <_unreal_> user____2, do you know about "man"
[07:45] <_unreal_> man=manual
[07:45] <JunkHunk> hello I am running kubuntu 14.04 and I would like to go back to ubuntu without reinstalling the system. is there an easy way to achieve this?¿
[07:46] <_unreal_> install unity?
[07:46] <SebthreeBQM10HD> JunkHunk, you can have both Ubuntu/Unity and KDE/kubuntu installed
[07:46] <OerHeks> JunkHunk, install ubuntu-desktop,, logout, change, login
[07:46] <JunkHunk> hmmm
[07:46] <JunkHunk> ubuntu-desktop?¿
[07:46] <SebthreeBQM10HD> JunkHunk, was the install your on now doing using a Kubuntu Live media ?
[07:46] <SebthreeBQM10HD> on now done
[07:47] <OerHeks> but then you end up with 2 types of programs, kde and gnome3/unity :-D
[07:47] <SebthreeBQM10HD> JunkHunk, you can have differnet interfaces etc and select what you want form the log in screen
[07:47] <JunkHunk> my goal is to get macbuntu
[07:47] <JunkHunk> from noobslab
[07:47] <SebthreeBQM10HD> JunkHunk, you shoudn't download random stuff from the web etc either
[07:47] <SebthreeBQM10HD> that sounds bad already
[07:48] <OerHeks> uh oh, carefull with that macubuntu theme, it ruins your system! ( and we are not helping to solve that)
[07:48] <JunkHunk> oh
[07:48] <JunkHunk> I am pretty happy with it on another computer...
[07:48] <SebthreeBQM10HD> JunkHunk, you'll still have Kubuntu but this is a start
[07:48] <SebthreeBQM10HD> JunkHunk, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[07:48] <JunkHunk> that easy?
[07:49] <SebthreeBQM10HD> that should put on whatever isn't installed from standard Ubuntu
[07:49] <_unreal_> JunkHunk, macbuntu is just a theam
[07:49] <SebthreeBQM10HD> yes that easy :)
[07:49] <JunkHunk> cool
[07:49] <OerHeks> not just a theme, a theme with a lot of tweaks and scripts
[07:49] <JunkHunk> and what if I would like to get rid of kubuntu?
[07:49] <SebthreeBQM10HD> JunkHunk, if you installed from a kubuntu disc first, which it seems you have?  you can instll stndard ubuntu into it anyway from the repos
[07:49] <SebthreeBQM10HD> JunkHunk, you could get rid of kubuntu but that's more complex
[07:50] <_unreal_> JunkHunk, then; sudo apt-get remove kde
[07:50] <OerHeks> adding a desktop is no problem, removing one can hurt.
[07:50] <SebthreeBQM10HD> JunkHunk, would need like a massive purge command for example, with all of it's packages
[07:50] <JunkHunk> I see as my default installation was kubuntu I only can get ubuntu desktop
[07:50] <JunkHunk> as a sort of layer?
[07:50] <SebthreeBQM10HD> _unreal_ JunkHunk  I think the command sudo apt-get remove kde  or  sudo atp-get remove kubuntu  would just remove the meta package, keeping kubuntu/kde actsauly on the system
[07:51] <SebthreeBQM10HD> JunkHunk, no you can have lots of differnet interfaces installe,d kubuntu/kde,  ubuntu/unity,  xubuntu/xfce  lubuntu/lxde etc etc
[07:51] <_unreal_> ya. not sure really
[07:51] <SebthreeBQM10HD> JunkHunk, then you log into the one you want from the log in screen
[07:51] <SebthreeBQM10HD> JunkHunk, and this command will put on the real complete full Ubuntu for you.  sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[07:51] <SebthreeBQM10HD> with unity the lot
[07:51] <JunkHunk> I know but...kubuntu thread guys say kubuntu is a different system
[07:52] <SebthreeBQM10HD> JunkHunk, it is and isn't
[07:52] <_unreal_> JunkHunk, its a fork from ubuntu its still linux
[07:52] <SebthreeBQM10HD> JunkHunk, I guess your not famillur to different interfaces etc yet
[07:52] <SebthreeBQM10HD> _unreal_  JunkHunk no it's not even a fork really
[07:52] <SebthreeBQM10HD> let's explain
[07:52] <SebthreeBQM10HD> I will :D
[07:52] <SebthreeBQM10HD> try to
[07:53] <SebthreeBQM10HD> JunkHunk, by default Ubuntu is well the Unity base,  so the Unity interface and whatever is there by default right
[07:53] <SebthreeBQM10HD> ok
[07:53] <SebthreeBQM10HD> but
[07:53] <_unreal_> hehe linux is like fiberglass, infinitively modifiable
[07:53] <ducasse> JunkHunk: the difference is the desktop environment and boot splash screen.
[07:54] <_unreal_> ducasse, thats too simple, I cant grasp it
[07:54] <SebthreeBQM10HD> JunkHunk,  but other interfaces,  can run as well.  when it's more than just a interface it's really a desktop envrionment so like KDE what Kubuntu has or GNOME what Ubuntu used to have, well Unity is another interface for GNOME in Ubuntu 16.04 for example.  instead of their own.  when it's just a interface it's clled a window manager
[07:54] <_unreal_> hehehe
[07:54] <ducasse> JunkHunk: plus the display manager.
[07:54] <SebthreeBQM10HD> JunkHunk, when you have other de's or wm's installed, you just select what you want from the log in screen :)
[07:55] <SebthreeBQM10HD> JunkHunk,  and  some also have hteir own display manager the log in screen itself, as ducasse was saying
[07:55] <JunkHunk> I see
[07:55] <ducasse> JunkHunk: there's no difference in the base system, and they use the same repos.
[07:55] <SebthreeBQM10HD> JunkHunk,  an that's abosutly fine that you started your install with Kubuntu but now wnating to make it more well Ubuntu standrd Ubuntu
[07:56] <user____2>  Unreal, so I did the man command it asked me if i ment manual i typed yes and i got unlimited lines of "y"
[07:56] <SebthreeBQM10HD> JunkHunk, because Kubuntu and Xubuntu and Lubuntu and Xubuntu and things like that, all use the standard proper Ubuntu base just like Ubuntu itself,  the base being the repos etc where you usally get software from etc
[07:56] <SebthreeBQM10HD> JunkHunk, with all that said, now I suggest,  running this command, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop,  and then once it's installed log  out, find the switcher on the log in screen and log in :)
[07:57] <JunkHunk> okay
[07:57] <SebthreeBQM10HD> JunkHunk, it will probably ask you some whre in the install if you want to change log in screen as well,  that can be a bit confussing when done in a termianl, I think it's tab and then arrow keys to select options
[07:58] <SebthreeBQM10HD> JunkHunk, by default kubuntu still uses anoher window manager I think.  and Ubuntu has light dm so
[07:58] <SebthreeBQM10HD> I Mean log in screen
[07:58] <JunkHunk> is ubuntu 16.04 cool?
[07:59] <SebthreeBQM10HD> JunkHunk,   personally I prefer lxde for that, but that it won't be installing with the comand I Gave :d.  Linux is generally al about choice, from  the interfaces and  things like that that can be run, to the well thousands of Linux distributions as well etc
[07:59] <SebthreeBQM10HD> JunkHunk, what have you got insatlled now kubuntu 16.04 ?
[07:59] <JunkHunk> unreal engine
[07:59] <SebthreeBQM10HD> no the install on the computer
[07:59] <SebthreeBQM10HD> it's Kubuntu 16.04 ?
[08:00] <JunkHunk> oh
[08:00] <JunkHunk> kubuntu14.04
[08:00] <SebthreeBQM10HD> why did you go with kubuntu of interest
[08:00] <SebthreeBQM10HD> and oh ok 14.04
[08:00] <SebthreeBQM10HD> JunkHunk, maybe you should upgrade that 14.04 to 16.04 first actsaully, then install ubuntu and whatever else
[08:00] <SebthreeBQM10HD> !lts
[08:01] <JunkHunk> they were saying kubuntu is the most elaborated desktop
[08:01] <SebthreeBQM10HD> JunkHunk, unelss you got amd graphics maybe, there's been an issue, not sure if that's solved yet or not
[08:01] <SebthreeBQM10HD> JunkHunk, personally for KDE
[08:01] <SebthreeBQM10HD> http://kde.org
[08:01] <SebthreeBQM10HD> !kde
[08:02] <JunkHunk> I find it interesting... it is a different desktop approach
[08:02] <JunkHunk> but...
[08:02] <SebthreeBQM10HD> JunkHunk, personally for KDE what Kubuntu runs, I would actsaully use other distros or much preferfeably  use them.  since Kubuntu is to well default and so on. but I can't really recommend other distros in here :d
[08:02] <JunkHunk> somewhat distracting
[08:03] <SebthreeBQM10HD> JunkHunk, when did you go 14.04 ?  have you stuck on Long Term SUpport releasse as well, since really your not that tehnical or quite new to all this still ?
[08:04] <JunkHunk> yes always lts
[08:04] <JunkHunk> and I ve been using kubuntu 14.04 from the beginning
[08:04] <JunkHunk> I used ubuntu before
[08:04] <SebthreeBQM10HD> JunkHunk, in a way you should maybe upgrade 14.04 to 16.04.1   already since now the  point 1 is out as in it's ready for LTS users to upgrade to it, or should be.  howver that can be done later on anyway.  but if you were to install ubuntu first into your 14.04 base, and then upgrade that i all to 16.04 as a result it would have more things to upgrade
[08:04] <JunkHunk> at 9.04 I think
[08:05] <SebthreeBQM10HD> JunkHunk, ok but that was 9.04 and so with the old GNOME 2 interface, interface wise Ubuntu really has changed a lot since then
[08:05] <SebthreeBQM10HD> since Unity
[08:05] <SebthreeBQM10HD> !unity
[08:06] <JunkHunk> I think I ll do a clean install
[08:06] <SebthreeBQM10HD> JunkHunk, 14.04 is  supported for a bit longer so you don't need to rush upgrading
[08:06] <JunkHunk> I will only need to re install ue4
[08:06] <JunkHunk> I know
[08:07] <SebthreeBQM10HD> JunkHunk, you don't really need to clean install, but if you are going ot possibly later on anyway, why not play a bit with hte install you have on there now and other interfaces etc ?
[08:07] <SebthreeBQM10HD> JunkHunk,  it's easy instaling other interfaces etc.
[08:07] <JunkHunk> hehe
[08:07] <SebthreeBQM10HD> JunkHunk, once you done one, and logged in and back out of it, back in and out as in say between kubuntu and ubuntu, you'll see what I mean
[08:08] <JunkHunk> because kde interface is complex enough in itself...to add more inputs
[08:08] <SebthreeBQM10HD> JunkHunk, when you are on ubuntu,  kde/kubuntu does not run!
[08:08] <JunkHunk> I mean a lot of things work different in plasma desktop
[08:08] <SebthreeBQM10HD> JunkHunk, however  you could open up kde programs into ubuntu and run those if you want to
[08:09] <SebthreeBQM10HD> but the kde interface and things like that nope that won't be in ubuntu as your interface
[08:09] <SebthreeBQM10HD> for the KDE programs itw ould use the KDE interfac stuff a bit though.
[08:10] <SebthreeBQM10HD> JunkHunk, there used to be a old debate about which was better, GNOME programs or KDE programs, but then it was made so that either of htose programs could work in either KDE or GNOME, without having to run the whole desktop envrionment with it's whole interface and what not
[08:10] <JunkHunk> hmm are you saying it is better to have kubuntu underneath to use ubuntu-desktop? that it is a more complete system?
[08:10] <SebthreeBQM10HD> so  KDE programs work with GNOME/Unity and  GNOME Progarms etc work with KDE
[08:11] <SebthreeBQM10HD> JunkHunk, you already have the Ubuntu base even with Kubuntu, since  as I put earlier they all use the same base. they all as in.  and the second bit is the interface after the /  that is used for the parituclar one I am mentioning, so they all as in.  Ubuntu/Unity  Kubuntu/KDE Lubuntu/LXDE  Xubuntu/XFCE
[08:11] <SebthreeBQM10HD> JunkHunk, the base being the Linux kernel, the access to the repos, the packagemanagement and all that
[08:12] <eset> does anyone knows any working ppa repo for apache 2.4 avalaible for ubuntu 11?
[08:12] <ducasse> eset: ubuntu 11 is eol, please upgrade
[08:12] <SebthreeBQM10HD> JunkHunk, so think of Kubuntu as being Ubuntu,  just with KDE instead of GNOME/Unity,  and som differnt branding of course to by default the graphics
[08:12] <k1l_> installing "kubuntu-desktop" will make you use kde plasma desktop
[08:13] <SebthreeBQM10HD> k1l_, they hae Kubuntu installed, and wanting to go standard Ubuntu,  I been trying to explain about that, and how really they already have ubuntu installed the base etc
[08:13] <k1l_> eset: that sounds like you are running a heavy insecure setup. ubuntu 11.04 or 11.10 dont get security updates since a long time.
[08:13] <k1l_> SebthreeBQM10HD: but you said you cant switch between desktop. which is false, you can
[08:14] <JunkHunk> okay so sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[08:14] <SebthreeBQM10HD> JunkHunk, it doesn't matter which one you started with it's all Ubuntu basiclly :),  any of these.  ubuntu kubuntu lubuntu xubuntu
[08:14] <k1l_> JunkHunk: if you want ubuntu with unity: yes
[08:14] <SebthreeBQM10HD> k1l_, no I been saying that can switch between desktop on the log in screen
[08:14] <JunkHunk> what if I dont want unity?
[08:14] <eset> k1l_: it's not up to me , it's clients server , so anyone?
[08:15] <SebthreeBQM10HD> JunkHunk, then you cn try another interface once installed, or go back to kubuntu which you have on already
[08:15] <JunkHunk> and I like gnome 2 and compiz effects very much?
[08:15] <k1l_> eset: then tell them the same and ask them if they want to be in the media with "company hacked and lost user data"
[08:15] <ducasse> eset: no, ubuntu 11 is completely unsupported. you will probably need to build yourself.
[08:15] <SebthreeBQM10HD> JunkHunk, GNOME 2 is no longer in 14.04, but I thin kMate is, well in 16.04 Mate definetly is
[08:15] <SebthreeBQM10HD> I THink
[08:15] <SebthreeBQM10HD> !mate
[08:16] <SebthreeBQM10HD> JunkHunk, and to instal mate I think the command is.  sudo apt-get install ubuntu-mate-desktop
[08:16] <JunkHunk> oh
[08:16] <JunkHunk> cool
[08:16] <k1l_> eset: and since its long time dead now we cant do anything about it. and i doubt anyone making updated PPAs for it. since no one i s using it anymore
[08:16] <SebthreeBQM10HD> JunkHunk, just try things, and how big is the Ubuntu install itself?  altough Linux progarms most of  them don't take up that much space anyway
[08:16] <ducasse> !eolupgrade | eset
[08:16] <JunkHunk> so not ubuntu-desktop but ubuntu-mate-desktop is what I want to type right?
[08:17] <k1l_> yes
[08:17] <SebthreeBQM10HD> JunkHunk, no  you should try with UNITY FIRST i THINK standard ubuntu,  then after that you could try out mate and whatever else,  try whatever 2 you want to try :)
[08:18] <JunkHunk> okay thanks for your time and support
[08:18] <JunkHunk> bye bye
[08:19] <SebthreeBQM10HD> bq
[08:20] <eset> Guys thank you for the lecture, but my question was simple yes or not. It's client machine he's making decision it's his problem and his aware of that
[08:21] <ducasse> eset: and we've answered
[08:21] <k1l_> eset: i answered that. no one is making updated PPAs for dead releases
[08:23]  * SebthreeBQM10HD leaves
[08:23] <SebthreeBQM10HD> bye bye
[08:29] <captainACE> hello! installed ubuntu , its so awesome :3
[08:29] <captainACE> i am not familiar with unity environments and i am having a hard time , are there any other desktops/environments/flavours
[08:30] <ducasse> !flavors | captainACE
[08:30] <captainACE> wow there's mate for ubuntu too!
[08:31] <captainACE> wow
[08:31] <lyntoo> now let's windblow eat dirt forever
[08:32] <captainACE> guys when i open software manager all i am seeing is three loading dots?
[08:33] <captainACE> even though i am connected to the internet
[08:34] <k1l_> captainACE: maybe its taking some time to load the repos. you can use apt on the terminal. run "sudo apt update&& sudo apt full-upgrade" to install all updates first. then run "sudo apt install ubuntu-mate-desktop" if you want to install mate
[08:34] <captainACE> thanks!
[08:37] <lyntoo> maybe you could look at first thing to do after install  from search engine
[08:37] <captainACE> ?
[08:40] <lyntoo> tips to get must have after fresh install ...common used
[08:42] <captainACE> ohh ok,thanks
[08:43] <captainACE> looks like english isnt your native,and you are using translators
[08:43] <k1l_> that doesnt make sense
[08:43] <captainACE> what doesnt?
[08:44] <lyntoo> you looking right
[08:44] <captainACE> i am 'looking' right?
[08:46] <olscumpy> is ubuntu supposed to have tab completion in bash, or was that left out?
[08:46] <k1l_> olscumpy: its supposed to have tab completion
[08:47] <olscumpy> I wonder why mine's not working
[08:47] <olscumpy> it seems to be inserting a literal tab character into the command line
[08:48] <k1l_> olscumpy: what ubuntu version exactly? what desktop?
[08:48] <captainACE> how to change desktops once i install it?
[08:48] <trijntje> captainACE: you can pick the environment you want from the login window
[08:48] <k1l_> captainACE: logout and choose the desktop on the login screen
[08:48] <blackbird1> !paste
[08:49] <captainACE> ahh just like mint
[08:49] <olscumpy> recently switched from mint to ubuntu-mate, kept my /home directory and it seems to cause occasional small issues, such as this apparent lack of tab completion
[08:49] <olscumpy> ubuntu mate 16.04.1 lts 64bit, more specifically
[08:49] <k1l_> olscumpy: ah. look at ~/.bashrc and set the bash completion to be uncommented
[08:49] <timss> I'm trying to install a personal CA certificate on Ubuntu 16.04 desktop. Put .crt in /usr/share/ca-certificates, ran update-ca-certificates and symlinks are created correctly in /etc/ssl/certs/. Still it's not working. Did the exact same steps on Ubuntu 16.04 server, and it worked fine. Is there another package that keeps track of certs that mess this up?
[08:49] <Triffid_Hunter> olscumpy: ubuntu's tab completion is kinda broken, I have difficulties with it all the time
[08:50] <Triffid_Hunter> really not sure what's been done to it but so often it simply refuses to tab complete files and dirs that exist, and occasionally tab completes things that don't exist
[08:51] <k1l_> Triffid_Hunter: sounds like a broken user setup
[08:51] <blackbird1> Hi, I have a file of size 8 Bytes, "hdparam" says that the file in on 8 sectors of 512 Bytes. How is that ? (http://paste.ubuntu.com/23136164/)
[08:52] <Triffid_Hunter> k1l_: in my experience it does that on totally fresh installs on at least 3 different systems I've put ubuntu on recently
[08:53] <olscumpy> I don't *seem* to have .bashrc, only .bash_history and .bash_logout. maybe the lack of that file is my problem?
[08:53] <torelti> hello
[08:54] <k1l_> olscumpy: setting that in /etc/bash.bashrc should work too
[08:55] <blackbird1> la commande size: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23136171/
[08:55] <EriC^^> olscumpy: copy it over from /etc/skel/.bashrc to your home dir
[08:55] <stomanata> Hi, after upgrade from 14.04 to 16.04 i have bad problem in mozilla. When i open "long" page that has scroll line and click with mouse it act as i press "End" button, not "PgDn", and it is only in mozilla. How can i fix it?
[08:56] <captainACE> tbh only thing 'bad' about ubuntu is the wallpapers XD
[08:57] <OerHeks> blackbird1, blocksize 4096 bytes, so the name + parameters + data takes 4 k, jippie
[08:57] <olscumpy> cool, uncommented it and it's working, thank you!
[08:58] <olscumpy> another trouble I've had in the switch from mint to ubuntu-mate, is the "grabber" or "handle" for resizing windows is extremely small, maybe only a pixel wide. Passing over it repeatedly while attempting to resize the window isn't fun - can I change it? I'm using Marco with software compositing.
[08:59] <captainACE> pls help a noob here,just installed mate and dunno where the software manager is?
[08:59] <stan_man_can_> Running Ubuntu 15.04, how can I open up a port? writing a test app that listens on port 3232
[08:59] <k1l_> that doesnt have a software center. what do you want to do?
[08:59] <captainACE> wth i wanna install things how come it doesnt have softare center?
[09:00] <olscumpy> captainACE: did you explore the Welcome menu, it has several different options for user-friendly software stores up to the more advanced stuff
[09:00] <captainACE> there was no welcome meny it just brough tme directly into the desktop
[09:00] <captainACE> logged in into mate,thats all
[09:00] <Ben64> stan_man_can_: 15.04 is no longer supported, time to upgrade to a supported release (16.04)
[09:00] <captainACE> *cries* how am i supposed to install things now
[09:01] <stan_man_can_> Ben64, I know, that's part of this project
[09:01] <Triffid_Hunter> olscumpy: alt+right-drag = window resize in most WMs
[09:01] <captainACE> i dont wanna do sudo install
[09:01] <OerHeks> captainACE, open terminal: sudo apt-get install synaptic
[09:01] <Ben64> stan_man_can_: doesn't sound like it. you don't need to open ports or run a 'test app' to upgrade
[09:01] <stan_man_can_> I'm re-writing this service and going to run it on 16.04 but need to test it on the current server
[09:01] <olscumpy> do you have a System menu in your top panel captainACE ? I would do System -> Welcome -> Software and then pick a software installer from there
[09:01]  * chibbol waves hello
[09:01] <stan_man_can_> Ben64, well unfortunately I don't have the time to migrate the whole server to 16.04 and then do it again a day or two later
[09:02] <Ben64> stan_man_can_: why would you have to do it again
[09:02] <stan_man_can_> because the whole system is being changed
[09:02] <stan_man_can_> the server is going from running php+mysql to go+redis
[09:02] <Ben64> stan_man_can_: do you realize that 15.04 hasn't had a security update in about 8 months?
[09:02] <Ben64> it should not be allowed online at all
[09:02] <captainACE> no olscumpy i have a menu on top though ill do what oerherks said
[09:02] <stan_man_can_> Ben64, well scolding me is only delaying it further
[09:03] <Ben64> stan_man_can_: you need to upgrade. the server is vulnerable
[09:03] <captainACE> ok now i installed synaptic and nothing has changed i think,still no software center GUI
[09:03] <OerHeks> without firewall you don't need to open a port
[09:04] <stan_man_can_> Ben64, Alright thank you for your opinion
[09:04] <Ben64> captainACE: now run synaptic
[09:04] <k1l_> captainACE: synaptic is not a software center
[09:04] <stan_man_can_> If in here is able to help me write an iptable rule or whatever is necessary to open a port that would be greatly appreciated
[09:04] <Ben64> stan_man_can_: either way, this channel only supports supported versions of ubuntu
[09:04] <captainACE> tbh i dont know how to operate synaptic , isnt therea ny software center per se?
[09:05] <stan_man_can_> Do you write iptable rules vastly different in 15.04 vs 12.04 14.04 or 16.04?
[09:05] <Ben64> that's not the point
[09:05] <stan_man_can_> sure it is
[09:05] <stan_man_can_> we're just making different points
[09:05] <Ben64> you're making a silly one
[09:05] <stan_man_can_> and you're being silly for the sake of it
[09:05] <stan_man_can_> so i guess that makes two silly people
[09:05] <k1l_> captainACE: look into the program menu: there shoudl be some center or softwrae center or such
[09:06] <stan_man_can_> see, had i not mentioned 15.04, you would be helping me right now because the exact same steps apply
[09:06] <k1l_> captainACE: else do a " sudo apt-get install software-center "
[09:06] <stan_man_can_> but you're not helping me to make a point
[09:06] <Ben64> stan_man_can_: not necessarily
[09:06] <captainACE> no i just installed mate and oerherks told me to downlaod synaptic as there is no software center in the menu bar
[09:06] <OerHeks> sudo ufw allow udp port 3232
[09:06] <stan_man_can_> OerHeks, ufw status says inactive, does that makes a difference?
[09:07] <k1l_> stan_man_can_: just because you dont like the answer it doesnt make the answeres wrong. 15.04 is not supported anymore and is heavily insecure. so dont blame use for your bad decisions to run 15.04 beside it is dead since more than 8 months
[09:07] <stan_man_can_> i have an active iptable rules though
[09:07] <ducasse> stan_man_can_: we're not helping people stay on unsupported releases for good reasons
[09:07] <olscumpy> are you sure you have ubuntu mate? this SHOULD be in there somewhere, and it's great: http://i.imgur.com/oMX9krq.png @ captainACE
[09:07] <OerHeks> stan_man_can_, oh, with pure iptables i am lost..
[09:07] <stan_man_can_> Ah thanks for trying OerHeks
[09:07] <student> ehm
[09:07] <student2> lol
[09:08] <student> to je awesome
[09:08] <captainACE> olscumpy ill send you a screenshot of my desktop and menu on imgur
[09:08] <student2> Hi guys
[09:08] <student> :3
[09:08] <student455611> čuz
[09:08] <captainACE> how do you take a screenshot :P
[09:08] <student> bax cus
[09:08] <stan_man_can_> Alright so what do you all suggest I do then? I have admitted I'm well aware that the server is long out of date. I'm trying to fix it. I've complete re-writing the server application, I just need to test it out first.
[09:08] <student455611> baxCUC
[09:08] <student2> press PrtScn button
[09:08] <k1l_> captainACE: press the "print" button
[09:08] <student> baxkappa
[09:09] <stan_man_can_> All I need to do is open port 3232, test my application, install it on a new 16.04 box and then redirect the DNS
[09:09] <hateball> !screenshot
[09:09] <stan_man_can_> However, aside from OerHeks you're all making a huge point that "15.04 isn't supported"
[09:09] <olscumpy> I'm just a fellow ubuntu noobie, captainACE, but from a terminal or from the Alt-F2 launcher, try running ubuntu-mate-welcome
[09:09] <student> select maty from trida XD
[09:09] <student455611> IP3 HYPE
[09:09] <stan_man_can_> I'm well aware it's insecure that's what I'd like to fix
[09:09] <captainACE> ok olscumpy!
[09:09] <ducasse> stan_man_can_: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=ubuntu+open+port+with+iptables&t=canonical&ia=qa
[09:10] <captainACE> it says i need to install the welcome screen?!
[09:10] <stan_man_can_> I really don't get how scolding me and having 3-4 of you repeat to me that "15.04 is outdated and insecure! don't use it! fix it now!" helps my situation
[09:10] <Ben64> stan_man_can_: again, this channel only supports certain releases. the currently supported releases are visible in the topic
[09:10] <OerHeks> stan_man_can_, there is no solution for installing software, if that is needed to help you out. and official we don't need to help eol versions.
[09:10] <stan_man_can_> lol
[09:10] <captainACE> LOL what do i do
[09:11] <captainACE> i think i dont have ubuntu-mate , i have just MATE
[09:11] <stan_man_can_> OerHeks, Not looking to install software, I was just looking for help on how to run a command that would be identical regardless of what version of Ubuntu i'm running
[09:11] <ducasse> stan_man_can_: did you see the link i posted?
[09:11] <captainACE> so what do i do now?
[09:11] <stan_man_can_> had i not even mentioned 15.04 not a single person would have even asked what version I'm on, they would have just helped
[09:11] <olscumpy> haha, weird. well, you could try sudo apt install ubuntu-mate-welcome , but if MATE is just your desktop environment, I'm not sure you and I have access to the same packages
[09:11] <OerHeks> true
[09:12] <captainACE> is there any third party software manager :( i can install?
[09:12] <Ben64> captainACE: synaptic is one
[09:12] <k1l_> captainACE: did you read what i said?
[09:13] <captainACE> yeah kil i installed synaptic
[09:13] <k1l_> captainACE: no
[09:13] <captainACE> then?
 captainACE: else do a " sudo apt-get install software-center "
[09:13] <captainACE> ahh snap!
[09:13] <captainACE> sorry
[09:13] <captainACE> and thanks :P
[09:13] <captainACE> ill do it
[09:15] <olscumpy> Triffid_Hunter: that shortcut key works great, thank you!
[09:15] <captainACE> what is eye-candy?
[09:15] <stan_man_can_> OerHeks, thanks
[09:15] <Triffid_Hunter> olscumpy: welcome, alt+left-drag is move window if you're curious, there's a few other combos around too but they're more variable between WMs
[09:18] <captainACE> is there a way to install java solely from software manager or or terminal or something
[09:19] <Ben64> yes of course, which java are you referring to
[09:20] <captainACE> java development kit 8u
[09:20] <lyntoo> sudo apt-get install default-jdk
[09:20] <captainACE> thanks
[09:21] <captainACE> why isnt there no sublime text on ubuntu software manager?
[09:21] <Triffid_Hunter> captainACE: because sublime is closed source nagware
[09:22] <captainACE> and ubuntu only works with opensource software :) right?
[09:22] <mjayk> ^^ :)
[09:22] <Ben64> you asked why it isn't in the software center
[09:23] <Triffid_Hunter> captainACE: you can install whatever you like, but afaik stuff in default sources list is all open
[09:23] <captainACE> yeah ben thats my question
[09:23] <captainACE> so i can install sublime from the net right?
[09:23] <Ben64> you can do whatever you want
[09:23] <captainACE> thanks for helping a linux noob :)
[09:24] <k1l_> captainACE: ask the sublime guy why they dont want ubuntu to ship sublime
[09:24] <Emery> Is it possbile in Ubuntu to have 2 different GFX cards running on the same machine? I would like to use multiple monitors. I have this set up on Windows but not sure if Linux likes to
[09:24] <k1l_> captainACE: hint: its the software licence they choose
[09:24] <captainACE> ahh i see k1l_
[09:24] <captainACE> one of the many reasons softwares like this dont make it into ubuntu
[09:25] <mjayk> Emery: you can use SLI in ubuntu afaik
[09:25] <Emery> mjayk: that's not what I'm asking
[09:25] <ducasse> Emery: short answer: it depends :)
[09:25] <Emery> On what?
[09:25] <mjayk> Emery: What two cards then it depends on what they are
[09:25] <Emery> Both Nvidia
[09:25] <mjayk> so SLI ?
[09:25] <Emery> Just different models
[09:26] <k1l_> captainACE: and keep in mind that sublime text costs 70$
[09:26] <Emery> mjayk: Why do you keep talking about SLI?
[09:26] <eset> Ok guys another small question.. installing apache 2.4 from source on  Ubuntu 11.10 (yeah I know it's sick) could fail because of dependencies versions?
[09:27] <mjayk> Emery: BEcause thats what the technology that lets you use two nvidia cards is called
[09:27] <ducasse> Emery: some info here: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/NVIDIA#Multiple_monitors
[09:27] <Emery> Considering they're both different models, your answer has no relevance at all
[09:27] <Ben64> eset: upgrade time
[09:27] <mjayk> Emery:  yes it does SLI lets you use two different cards
[09:27] <Emery> mjayk: lol.
[09:27] <k1l_> Emery: SLI doesnt mean the same cards
[09:28] <mjayk> Emery: I would advise you go and do a little google foo before you ask again :)
[09:28] <Emery> Both cards have to be the same to bridge, don't be silly mjayk
[09:28] <mjayk> Emery: no they dont
[09:28] <Ben64> Emery: either way the answer is "yes" you can, but it often isn't easy
[09:28] <mjayk> Emery: google is your friend
[09:28] <eset> Ben64: ? Sorry I didn't catch that?
[09:28] <Emery> mjayk: Don't answer please, I don't have time for silly answers
[09:29] <lyntoo> I suppose if you add additional driver from nvidia...it's work out of the box ... but it's my supposition
[09:29] <k1l_> Emery: since your are banned from here due to your attitude and trolling i guess you stop telling others what to do and just leave now
[09:29] <Bellator> !Ook Computer Architecture.pdf
[09:29] <Ben64> eset: 11.10 hasn't been supported since 2013 May, you need to upgrade
[09:29] <Emery> k1l_: it's not my fault I like to waste your retard communities time is it? I feel like it's just an impulse for NIGGERS
[09:30] <eset> Ben64: That is what I want to write to my client but I just want to ask you to be sure that installing from source will break and it will faild for sure
[09:30] <Ben64> eset: 11.10 is already broken. it needs to be upgraded or taken offline immediately
[09:30] <ducasse> eset: we don't know, as we haven't tried.
[09:30] <k1l_> @mark emery proven his troll attitude
[09:31] <pepximus> s
[09:31] <Ben64> pretty sure that's vulnerable to all the latest big vulnerabilities that have popped up the past few years
[09:31] <eset> ducasse: thx that was my answer :) Your answer gave a simple conclusion: it's stupid idea that's why no one tried :)
[09:31] <ducasse> eset: correct :)
[09:32] <olscumpy> what's @mark?
[09:33] <k1l_> olscumpy: just a operators command for the bot
[09:34] <olscumpy> @mark can't be used by peons I presume
[09:34] <k1l_> no
[09:36] <ubuntu> hi
[09:36] <Guest99611> 0:
[09:41] <PCatinean> Hello everyone
[09:43] <captainACE> any idea how i can get the default wallpapers that come with linuxmint on ubuntu?
[09:44] <rikan> just search for "linuxmint wallpaper" on google
[09:44] <rikan> there's a pack
[09:44] <neurot> google
[09:44] <captainACE> :)
[09:45] <rikan> http://www.chip.de/downloads/Linux-Mint-18-Wallpaper-Pack_96103930.html
[09:45] <captainACE> yeah i got the website
[09:45] <captainACE> thanks
[09:45] <captainACE> :)
[09:45] <Indrek> Hello
[09:45] <Indrek> I have problem with ssh login
[09:45] <rikan> what's the problem?
[09:46] <vlt> Indrek: What do you expect to happen when and what happens instead?
[09:46] <Indrek> i copied id with ssh-copy-id
[09:46] <Indrek> but it still asks for password
[09:47] <Indrek> i try to login as ssh user@web-server
[09:47] <Indrek> and it asks password
[09:47] <PCatinean> Can someone guide me through getting my old files back from a corrupt ubuntu installation using live cd?
[09:47] <vlt> Indrek: Do you get in with that password? If yes, does the file ~/-ssh/authorized_keys exist there?
[09:47] <geirha> Indrek: did you add the key to your ssh-agent?
[09:48] <geirha> e.g.  ssh-add ~/.ssh/name_of_key
[09:48] <vlt> Indrek: s/-/./
[09:48] <rikan> make sure  that your home directory isn't group writable! or it would not work
[09:48] <Indrek> i see the key under ~/.ssh/authorized_keys
[09:49] <geirha> yeah, .ssh should have mode 700
[09:49] <DarkStar1> Hello all. I am trying to install poco libraries from https://www.collaboraoffice.com/apt-poco/ and I've added the source to my sources.list
[09:50] <Indrek> yes, it was group writeable
[09:50] <epic> so I updated to xenial and now my "apt update" results in errors "Could not execute 'apt-key' to verify signature (is gnupg installed?)" (both gpg and apt-key seems to be working), any ideas?
[09:50] <Indrek> writable*
[09:50] <Indrek> thanks rikan!
[09:50] <DarkStar1> but when I try to install libpoco-dev libcap-dev I get the 'umet dependencies' error
[09:51] <rikan> you're welcome :)
[09:51] <DarkStar1> and I was wondering how I can resolve them
[09:51] <k1l_> DarkStar1: use apt on cli and show all the output in a pastebin and link that here
[09:52] <rikan> darkstar1
[09:52] <u0_a234> how do I make a note for myself in bash.bashrc i want it to appear every time i start
[09:52] <DarkStar1> k1l_: rikan https://paste.fedoraproject.org/422245/47306913/
[09:52] <rikan> make sure that restricted and universe repository are enabled
[09:52] <DarkStar1> tried apt-get build-dep libpoco-dev
[09:53] <DarkStar1> rikan: for that repo?
[09:53] <Indrek> How bad idea is to do-release-upgrade ?
[09:53] <Indrek> on server
[09:53] <rikan> hit alt+f2 then software-properties-gtk and enable all repository
[09:53] <k1l_> Indrek: it will upgrade to the next ubuntu release.
[09:53] <DarkStar1> rikan: I'm on a vps
[09:53] <DarkStar1> only have cli
[09:53] <Indrek> I know what it does
[09:54] <Indrek> but im just wondering should i do it or install new ubuntu and move all things to new ubuntu
[09:54] <k1l_> Indrek: the upgrades get automated testings. so if you stick to an original ubuntu setup they do work
[09:55] <k1l_> DarkStar1: "sudo apt install libpococrypto17" gives what output?
[09:55] <rikan> tried to disable PPAs?
[09:55] <DarkStar1> k1l_:  other unmet deps
[09:55] <k1l_> DarkStar1: what exactly?
[09:55] <DarkStar1> libpococrypto17 : Depends: libpocofoundation17 (= 1.7.2-1) but it is not going to be installed
[09:55] <DarkStar1>                    Depends: libstdc++6 (>= 4.9) but 4.8.4-2ubuntu1~14.04.3 is to be installed
[09:56] <k1l_> DarkStar1: you need to find the reason why its not installing them. better show the full output on a pastebin
[09:56] <k1l_> DarkStar1: what ubuntu release is that exactly?
[09:56] <DarkStar1> k1l_: http://paste.fedoraproject.org/422247/6939614/
[09:57] <DarkStar1> 14.04
[09:57] <k1l_> ok, seems like it doesnt work with 14.04 due to it wants the packages in newer version numbers than 14.04 shipps
[09:58] <DarkStar1> k1l_: So I must upgrade to the next LTS?
[09:58] <DarkStar1> Crep!
[09:59] <k1l_> DarkStar1: you could ask them if they support an install for 14.04 and have a working setup/repo for that
[09:59] <DarkStar1> k1l_: YEah thought about this but I guess I will be waiting beyond today for an answer
[10:20] <cart_man> Hey guys.. I had a couple of struggles with building QT4 so far for CROSS-COMPILATION on my IMX6 board...anyway I am stuck with the error when running "make" -> make[1]: arm-linux-g++: Command not found . Anybody know where I can get that OR WHERE that lies in the system
[10:22] <bpcpi> how to use man command
[10:23] <hateball> !man | bpcpi
[10:24] <Guest86986> how to read running process list from system monitor in python?
[10:26] <Rotwang> Hi, I have a question regarding upstart and sysv init scripts
[10:27] <Rotwang> With upstart I can have dependencies between services started by upstart, however if one service is started by upstart and other by sysv then I can't have that neat dependencies right?
[10:27] <Rotwang> Any idea how to circumvent that?
[10:44] <thiagofm> Hello everyone. I'm using my own modified version of ubuntu, which I lack the menu. How can I open the Sound(Settings?) from the console/terminal?
[10:45] <thiagofm> Also, would be useful to know how to find out by myself how do I find where those ubuntu utilities are, to be able to access them by the terminal/console
[10:45] <bazhang> thiagofm, modified how
[10:45] <thiagofm> bazhang, just not using the default window manager
[10:45] <dcmkd> Hi all. I installed Kubuntu , but my synaptic touchpad is not working.
[10:45] <thiagofm> bazhang, so I lack the menu
[10:46] <bazhang> thiagofm, which one then
[10:46] <thiagofm> bazhang, xmonad
[10:46] <dcmkd> it says synaptic backend not found. any help ?
[10:46] <k1l_> thiagofm: deoends on which desktop you use and if that is using pulseaudio
[10:47] <PCatinean> can anyone offer advice on how I can fix a linux installation?
[10:47] <PCatinean> it does not boot anymore
[10:47] <PCatinean> and I'm in the live-cd
[10:47] <thiagofm> k1l_, unfortunately, if I try to open "pulseaudio", nothing opens(no app/config)
[10:47] <hateball> !fixgrub | PCatinean
[10:47] <PCatinean> it reaches grub, I click ubuntu but then it croaks
[10:48] <hateball> dcmkd: is this 14.04 or 16.04 ?
[10:48] <dcmkd> 16.4
[10:48] <dcmkd> hateball: 16.04
[10:49] <k1l_> thiagofm: pavucontrol
[10:49] <epic> where is the standard placement of the public key of a apt web archive?
[10:49] <epic> I get "E: The repository 'http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu xenial InRelease' is not signed." when executing "apt update" and I cannot find the public key
[10:49] <hateball> dcmkd: what is telling you this? does the touchpad not work at all, not even in sddm when you login?
[10:50] <thiagofm> k1l_, thanks, right on spot!
[10:50] <thiagofm> k1l_, how do you know this?
[10:51] <dcmkd> hateball: not working at all. not even sddm. xinput shows ImPS/2 Generic Wheel Mouse
[10:51] <hateball> dcmkd: what model laptop is this? perhaps it needs to have some usbhid quirks added to work properly
[10:52] <dcmkd> Fujitsu ultrabook u554
[10:52] <thiagofm> k1l_, I have sound working properly now, thanks a lot. Made my day.
[10:52] <reveredge> hey guys can anybody help me with routing traffic through a pc?
[10:53] <dcmkd> hateball: Fujitsu ultrabook u554
[10:53] <hateball> dcmkd: google suggests adding these kernel parameters: i8042.notimeout i8042.nomux
[10:54] <dcmkd> hateball: good. how to do that ?
[10:54] <hateball> dcmkd: you can either hold left shift during boot to get grub menu and edit, for a one time change
[10:55] <hateball> dcmkd: or we can make it permanent at once from within your booted OS
[10:55] <dcmkd> hateball: I wish to make that permanent. Now i am in. How to do that permanent ?
[10:56] <hateball> dcmkd: sudo nano /etc/default/grub
[10:56] <hateball> dcmkd: find the line with grub_cmdline, you probably have quiet splash already there
[10:57] <dcmkd> hateball: i edited grub.  yes. quiet splash is in. to put this two with a space ?
[10:57] <hateball> dcmkd: so add "i8042.notimeout i8042.nomux" in there as well. after that, ctrl+x to save the file, then run "sudo update-grub" and reboot
[10:57] <hateball> dcmkd: yep
[10:58] <dcmkd> hateball: thank you . I am rebooting already :)
[10:59] <dcmkd> hateball: yes! you did it! Thank you!!!
[10:59] <hateball> dcmkd: :)
[10:59] <hateball> dcmkd: relevant page https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1260293#p1260293
[11:01] <dcmkd> Thank you guys! thank you hateball ! Great support. See you !
[11:20] <r3b00tx> st
[11:20] <r3b00tx> Hi
[11:20] <r3b00tx> Can anyone help me increase the font size of virtual terminal pls?
[11:20] <snitch007> Sup
[11:21] <snitch007> Did you Google it?
[11:21] <r3b00tx> i have a 1080p display and the fonts are really small
[11:21] <r3b00tx> yea
[11:21] <r3b00tx> i tried changing the grub config
[11:21] <k1l_> !google | snitch007
[11:21] <r3b00tx> by setting the resolution to 1024x768
[11:21] <r3b00tx> but it didnt work
[11:22] <snitch007> Sorry bro
[11:22] <k1l_> r3b00tx: sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-setup
[11:22] <r3b00tx> @snitch007 no prblm, thanks for looking in
[11:22] <k1l_> that starts a dialoge where you can set the font size
[11:23] <r3b00tx> @kll_ i tried that and changed all the possible fonts
[11:23] <r3b00tx> but i keep getting the same font size after reboot
[11:23] <k1l_> r3b00tx: you dont need to change the font. you need to change the fontsize
[11:24] <r3b00tx> @kll_ let me give it a try again, many thanks brb
[11:26] <epic> I'm lost my apt update is no longer working after upgrading to xenial, the gpg verification of the standards archives fails, anyone know how to "bootstrap" apt again?
[11:26] <cart_man> can anybody please tell me where I can get this toolchain -> arm-none-linux-gnueabi-g++
[11:26] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:26] <vel_> hi
[11:28] <k1l_> epic: can you show the output of "cat /etc/apt/sources.list | nc termbin.com 9999"
[11:29] <epic> k1l_ http://termbin.com/qwva
[11:30] <k1l_> epic: and what is the issue when you run "sudo apt update" now?
[11:31] <epic> k1l_: http://termbin.com/14i5
[11:32] <epic> gpg is installed and working AFAIK and same with apt-key
[11:32] <geirha> I use the same mirrors, and they work fine here
[11:32] <epic> has to be some issue with my gpg keyring
[11:32] <geirha> sudo apt-key list
[11:32] <epic> strange that apt says "InRelease' is not signed."
[11:33] <epic> geirha: http://termbin.com/77xs
[11:33] <joelio> if you're sure gpg is there etc, then apt-get install --reinstall debian-archive-keyring
[11:34] <joelio> iirc
[11:34] <geirha> the first four keys are identical to the first four I have, so the keys look alright
[11:35] <epic> well I made it worse for myself by deleting apt's lists cache, so I have no package lists as long as apt update does not work
[11:36] <epic> so trying to reinstall debian-archive-keyring i get E: Unable to locate package debian-archive-keyring
[11:36] <epic> but as mentioned the keyring looks OK
[11:36] <epic> some other people have had problems too: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/1577926
[11:36] <joelio> you could dpkg -i it from http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=debian-archive-keyring but tbh if they're there and you've deleted the lists, then maybe that is more indicative
[11:38] <epic> I did dpkg -i it, and that did not change anything
[11:39] <epic> silly if i need to re-install form a USB stick because apt is not working :p
[11:41] <epic> but the "InRelease" files in the repos are not signed, the "Release" files are the only one with a ".gpg" twin file
[11:41] <epic> e.g. in http://ftp.acc.umu.se/ubuntu/dists/xenial/
[11:42] <joelio> I've got a feeling you've half dist-upgraded
[11:42] <joelio> and there are pacakges that are still on an old version perhaps?
[11:42] <epic> Release.gpg is there but not "InRelease.gpg" so my apt update error is correct: E: The repository 'http://no.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-updates InRelease' is not signed.
[11:42]  * joelio not had that issue with dist-upgrades
[11:42] <epic> joelio: you may be correct, I had a issue during my dist-upgrade
[11:43] <epic> thought it was fixed though
[11:43] <joelio> ok, so future ref, use do-release-upgrade
[11:43] <epic> i did
[11:43] <joelio> or if you do want to dist-upgrade... do and update, then and apt-get install dpkg apt first :)
[11:43] <joelio> ok, fair enough
[11:44] <joelio> do you have another running xenial you could copy the /var/lib/apt/ sources?
[11:44] <epic> yeah
[11:44] <epic> good idea
[11:44] <joelio> might save rebuild
[11:45] <epic> so copy /var/lib/apt/* ?
[11:45] <epic> no that may be too much
[11:45] <joelio> just the stuff you deleted?
[11:45] <epic> that was just the package lists
[11:45] <joelio> partials or full?
[11:45] <joelio> as an apt-get update shoudl rereate paritials etc
[11:45] <r3b00tx> @kll_  font change is working now even after the boot. thanks a lot for your time
[11:46] <epic> rm /var/lib/apt/lists/* i did
[11:46] <epic> ..
[11:46] <r3b00tx> kll_:  font change is working now even after the boot. thanks a lot for your time
[11:46] <k1l_> r3b00tx: ok
[11:46] <epic> and partials
[11:46] <joelio> hrm, yea, ok that's not that bad.. an apt-get update should fix.. if it were working
[11:46] <epic> but if I copy /Var/lib/apt/lists the gpg verification will still fail
[11:47] <epic> i guess
[11:47] <BrianH> Hey guys.  Anyone familiar with connecting old zip drives via a USB enclosure?
[11:47] <k1l_> epic: is that a own machine or a vps?
[11:48] <epic> k1l_ : my own HW but it not very accessible
[11:48] <Metamorphosis> hello. may i ask why did the ubuntu developers dropped support for Wubi installer?
[11:48] <blut> Metamorphosis: doesn't ubuntu use the debian installer d-i?
[11:49] <k1l_> Metamorphosis: because it could not handle new windows versions, had massive data loss issues due to breaking ubuntu and windows OS and is not supportable if something goes wrong.
[11:49] <BrianH> I need to get some data off some disks, but I can't seem to get this Z250ATAPI drive to load.  Will it not work via an external enclosure?
[11:49] <k1l_> Metamorphosis: so if you want to test ubuntu use the live dvd/usb, a VM or make a native install into real partitions
[11:49] <epic> joelio: now the lists are back, but I still cannot to "apt update" :)
[11:50] <joelio> yea, something else borken in a package update - have you run and apt-get -f install /
[11:50] <Metamorphosis> With windows 7 ,vista and xp powering more than 70% of the desktop computers of the world why not keeping the tool on iso? I just dont understand why they dropped support for such decent and beginner friendly tool
[11:50] <joelio> epic: or a dpkg-configure -a
[11:50] <k1l_> Metamorphosis: vista and xp are dead. no need to support that
[11:51] <epic> joelio: command not found: dpkg-configure
[11:51] <k1l_> Metamorphosis: it was not a decent tool. it was a nightmare as i already answered you.
[11:51] <epic> ..
[11:51] <garo> Suppose I am running 14.04 and i want to install a package 'foo' that only became available in 16.04
[11:51] <joelio> epic: dpkg-reconfigure sorry, doing several things at once :)
[11:51] <Ben64> garo: time to upgrade to 16.04, or find a ppa, or compile it yourself
[11:51] <Metamorphosis> Well it always worked for me. but seems like its gone for good. thanks for your answers
[11:52] <garo> I assume i could go to http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/foo , download the .deb and use 'dpkg -i foo.deb'
[11:52] <k1l_> garo: upgrade or look if there is a PPA.
[11:52] <k1l_> garo: no. dont mix ubuntu releases
[11:52] <epic> joelio: "Unknown option: a" :)
[11:52] <garo> That's the problem, i want to stay at 14.04
[11:52] <joelio> get the package source, and debbuild
[11:52] <garo> So the best idea is a "./configure && make && make install"-type of install ?
[11:52] <Ben64> garo: then pick one of the other two options i told you
[11:53] <Ben64> the best idea is to upgrade to 16.04
[11:53] <chavez> Good day
[11:53] <blut> Ben64: isn't 14.04 an LTS version?
[11:53] <joelio> garo: no, you can get the upstream source.. but probably linked to specific vesions. Depending on your skill you could get the apt source and debuild the package on 14.04 - if it could support libs... otherwise you'll spend longer backporting libraries than it woudl take to upgrade to 16.04
[11:54] <garo> upgrade will create a lot of problems on this system, ppa might be a good idea but i never used it. Is there some webpage listing all known ppa's ?
[11:54] <k1l_> blut: it is. but he wants a more recent version of one package.
[11:54] <chavez> I installed ms office 2007 on playonlinux, microsoft word can not see my printer installed
[11:54] <k1l_> garo: look at launchpad.net for the package you use. at the bottom there should be a green: "show different versions"
[11:55] <atralheaven> I need to force my system to use a specific DNS server, and not anything else. how can I do that?
[11:55] <ducasse> chavez: try in #winehq
[11:56] <joelio> atralheaven: statically configure the interface, use dns override in network-manager, use dns-servers in interfaces, loads of ways
[11:56] <garo> hm,  86 pages matching... that's a lot...
[11:57] <garo> k, I'll think i figure it out from here, thanks everyone !
[11:57] <lapion> Hello I have been trying to print to a different page size however cups keeps on translating all page sizes to A4 even if I set manual feed.. Cups discards all paper selection
[11:57] <fishcooker> this menu-cached eats cpu usage, any one with this issue?
[11:58] <k1l_> joelio: maybe you try the main servers (without the .no)
[11:58] <atralheaven> joelio: nm can add dns servers, not forcing to use one, and NOT the others. the point is that I want the system to use ONLY the dns server I want, not using that beside others
[11:59] <Ben64> atralheaven: yeah, so set it
[11:59] <garo> hm, it seems that they are all for non-14.04 versions... :(
[12:00] <garo> So ppa not available, distro upgrade is not an option on this system, source-install is going to be the only option left
[12:01] <garo> (btw, the package 'foo' = 'gpaw')
[12:01] <Ben64> garo: look into using checkinstall, will make it a bit easier
[12:01] <f48ds> I'm trying to install qutebrowser. In it's documentation said that I have to install dependencies. But, I'm getting an error http://paste.ubuntu.com/23136699/ How can I fix it?
[12:03] <garo> is checkinstall stable, i never tried it but it sounds so... fragile...
[12:03] <Surfer2010_> how can i create a script that is called with no path? ... Example:   getsize folderXY  .... tells me the foldersize with the du-command
[12:03] <garo> I rather end up with software that's really hard to remove than a .deb that removes half my system when i remove it
[12:04] <OerHeks> f48ds, a quick search lears me that you miss python3-dev >  https://github.com/The-Compiler/qutebrowser/issues/1200
[12:04] <OerHeks> c/learns
[12:05] <geirha> Surfer2010_: 1. Make sure the script has a shebang (#!/usr/bin/env bash), 2. put it in a directory in your PATH (like /usr/local/bin or ~/bin), 3. make it executable (chmod +x /usr/local/bin/getsize)
[12:05] <f48ds> OerHeks: I can not install it too http://paste.ubuntu.com/23136715/
[12:05] <geirha> Surfer2010_: if it's short, and only you will be using it, you can make it a function in .bashrc instead
[12:06] <Surfer2010_> what is .bashrc ?
[12:06] <Surfer2010_> and yes it's only for myself
[12:06] <Surfer2010_> like getting foldersize and stuff like this ... which i type a lot
[12:06] <maarlee> lol
[12:06] <geirha> it's a bash script that bash reads and executes when you start an interactive session. It's in your hoemdir.
[12:06] <joelio> atralheaven: have you actually tried it?
[12:06] <cliffer> how can i remotely use a graphical ubuntu system not using screen forwarding à la vnc but connect to a remote users session à la RDP?
[12:07] <joelio> k1l_: wrong person I think
[12:07] <joelio> atralheaven: you can overrride dns servers from dhcp provided. Or set statically for all the IP detail
[12:08] <geirha> Surfer2010_: E.g.:  gedit ~/.bashrc   # and add: getsize() { du -hs "$@"; }   at the end
[12:08] <maarlee> what is life?
[12:08] <Surfer2010_> great i will try this thanks geirha
[12:09] <maarlee> what is life?
[12:09] <joelio> 42
[12:09] <maarlee> wow
[12:09] <atralheaven> joelio: I made the changes in network manager gui, but how can I check if they're only dns servers Im using? and may you please explain me more about overriding dns servers, how can I change them?
[12:09] <maarlee> how does one live a life
[12:10] <joelio> atralheaven: jeez, whatever happened to a journey of self-enlightemnent.. far too much expecting there. You can check your dns servers in /etc/resolv.conf. They will highly likele be generated from resolvconf
[12:10] <maarlee> how does one use armitage?
[12:11] <m_nub> hey guys
[12:11] <maarlee> how does one use armitage?
[12:11] <atralheaven> joelio: when I was using openvpn (which I can't use now...) there was an option to force dns servers from the serverside and block outside dns in client side. im looking for similar behavior.
[12:12] <Surfer2010_> geirha: how do i start this ,... my bashrc is empty
[12:12] <atralheaven> joelio: actually im on man page of resolvconf trying to figure it out!
[12:12] <joelio> atralheaven: I have told you, you override them by statcially setting an ip and other detail *or* overriding the dhcp provided statc servers. Ignore resolvconf, it's just part of the tooling
[12:12] <give_m> hey guys... ubuntu install failed, i can run ubiquity debug and see install proccess?
[12:13] <geirha> Surfer2010_: huh? are you sure you typed it right? there should be a default ".bashrc" file (note the leading .) in your homedir
[12:13] <olscumpy> did the "publish via Yandex.Disk" script come with ubuntu-mate, or is it more likely that I added it by accident?
[12:13] <joelio> atralheaven: openvpn has an option there so you don't leak into local dns resolvers.. or to provide the correct dns horizon if you're connected to a work vpn
[12:13] <Surfer2010_> ahh i forgot the c at the end :D ...
[12:13] <Surfer2010_> sry
[12:14] <Ben64> atralheaven: when you set the dns servers in the network manager, it uses them
[12:14] <atralheaven> joelio: sorry im just a noob in networking... but Im trying
[12:14] <atralheaven> Ben64: and it does not use other dns servers? like my isp dns server?
[12:14] <Ben64> atralheaven: how would it know about them
[12:15] <joelio> I'd imagine overrriding DNS servers is becoming a common thing for kids here in the UK, given the dns filters ;)
[12:15] <Surfer2010_> geirha: -bash: getsize: command not found
[12:15] <atralheaven> Ben64: oh with the manual method?! I got it!
[12:15] <geirha> Surfer2010_: did you open a new terminal?
[12:16] <give_m> hey guys... ubuntu install failed, i can run ubiquity debug and see install proccess logs?
[12:16] <Surfer2010_> ah okay i was logged in by ssh .... and now it does something ^^
[12:16] <geirha> in your existing sessions, you can type:  source ~/.bashrc
[12:17] <atralheaven> Ben64: but, in addresses, what should I enter? you know on the automatic dhcp method, its "additional" dns servers, not the only dns servers
[12:17] <Surfer2010_> size() { du -h --max-depth=1 | sort -hr "$@"; }   is that ok also?
[12:17] <Surfer2010_> or will that not give me the entire size of the folder?
[12:18] <Ben64> atralheaven: just use the automatic addresses only bit
[12:18] <geirha> Surfer2010_: no, you put the "$@" in the wrong place
[12:19] <Surfer2010_> what is the $@ for?
[12:19] <geirha> it's the arguments you pass to the command
[12:19] <atralheaven> Ben64: thanks! I hope it solve the problem that I think is because of my isp dns servers...
[12:19] <geirha> which I assume is the directories you want du to run through
[12:19] <Ben64> atralheaven: what's the problem
[12:19] <cripcate> hey, my wifi icon is bugged. It shows the ethernet symbol instead. also when i click it it doesn't show the network im in. When i click connection info though, it states the nettwork and shows im connected (which i am)
[12:19] <cripcate> any idea how to solve this?
[12:20] <Surfer2010_> yes it is
[12:20] <geirha> so   size() { du -hd1 "$@" | sort -hr; }     # should work most of the time. It fails for directories containing newlines
[12:20] <Surfer2010_> what is -hd1?
[12:21] <Ben64> man du
[12:21] <geirha> Surfer2010_: -h -d 1, same as you had, just the shorter versions
[12:21] <Surfer2010_> ah ^^ okay :D
[12:21] <cerion> hi. i8kfan on my dell inspiron does not work anymore. no way to stop the fan to make noise... since latest upgrade of the kernel I thnik
[12:21] <Surfer2010_> thanks
[12:21] <give_m> hey guys... ubuntu install failed, i can run ubiquity debug and see install proccess logs?
[12:22] <Surfer2010_> what is a good way to check why my ubuntu crashed the other day ... because i did nothing other than admin some wordpress
[12:22] <olscumpy> does the "publish via Yandex.Disk" script in .config/caja/scripts come as part of ubuntu-mate, or is it more likely that I added it by accident?
[12:24] <MWM> has /lib/udev/rules.d/51-android.rules been removed for 16.04 ?
[12:24] <MWM>  I fix for an older version points me to that file, but it does not exist on my machine
[12:26] <notmyselftoday> I don't know if this will get me banned, but at least it's for a good cause, or what I believe is a good cause. Long story short, I'm asking for money. The people at riseup.net are running out of money next month, they give free email, vpn and more to activists. If you value what they do, just a dollar or two is enough. That's it, I won't repeat this message not to flood.
[12:26] <Ben64> notmyselftoday: yeah, not the right channel for that
[12:28] <notmyselftoday> Ben64, I'm sorry, will cease and desist
[12:28] <Surfer2010_> geirha: how long could my command take ... not more than 1min right? ... normal folder with about 700MB and hardly any subfolders
[12:31] <MWM> does anyone know if /lib/udev/rules.d/51-android.rules has been removed from 16.04 or if I am just unlucky and dont have it?  what I am wondering is if it appropriate to create it
[12:32] <anonymous> Hello
[12:33] <geirha> Surfer2010_: depends on what directories you passed to it. Which reminds me; it's probably a good idea to include -x among the du options
[12:34] <Surfer2010_> -x for ?!
[12:35] <Surfer2010_> it takes forever ... (not finishing) and it's not that big of a directory
[12:35] <geirha> Surfer2010_: try ''man du'' this time, to see what -x means
[12:38] <Surfer2010_> geirha: got the x ... ok makes sence ... but still not working ... it's not showing anything
[12:38] <MWM> is there a resource I might be able to check about what is included in 16.04 so I can see if /lib/udev/rules.d/51-android.rules is there or not?
[12:38] <geirha> Surfer2010_: It won't show anything before it's done, because sort can't start sorting until du is done
[12:39] <atralheaven> Ben64: can I do the same thing on a my server? well, there is no network manager gui there
[12:39] <Surfer2010_> i know but even after 5min there is no result ... but should be because there is 1 folder not more
[12:50] <Pinkamena_D> A few times recently all my windows have been destroyed after resuming from suspend. I can find this in dmesg: compiz[2574]: segfault at 0 ip 00007fadbff8235c sp 00007ffd679a4e30 error 4 in libunityshell.so[7fadbfc27000+583000]
[12:51] <Pinkamena_D> Any suggestions?
[12:52] <geirha> Surfer2010_: Well, I don't know what you typed; or what version of the function you used.  Run it with set -x to see what is happening.   set -x; size foo/ bar/; set +x
[12:53] <Surfer2010_> size() { du -xhd1 "$@" | sort -hr; } <-- this is the function and i run it size folderXY/ .... to see the size of all the subfolders in it
[12:53] <Surfer2010_> but nothing happens
[12:56] <geirha> try running it without the sort;  du -xhd1 folderXY/
[12:56] <cerion> Pinkamena_D: fill a bug report.
[13:01] <Surfer2010_> not working either
[13:01] <cerion> MWM: the file is in android-sdk-platform-tools-common
[13:01] <cerion> package
[13:07] <ppf> on a system, i have a "locked" user (user i have not set a password for)
[13:07] <ppf> it appears as if ssh is denying access to that user as well, even though they do not use a password for authentication
[13:08] <Surfer2010_> du -h --max-depth=1 Camera/
[13:08] <Surfer2010_> du -xhd1 Camera/   ... both not working for some reason
[13:11] <ppf> how do i log in as a user that doesn't have a password
[13:13] <geirha> sudo -iu user
[13:13] <ppf> [...] via ssh
[13:14] <geirha> ah, then use ssh key
[13:14] <Surfer2010_> sudo: unknown user: user .... and sudo: unable to initialize policy plugin
[13:14] <ppf> in my auth.log i have this: sshd[28198]: User X not allowed because account is locked
[13:14] <ppf> does that mean they didn't log in using the key?
[13:14] <geirha> Surfer2010_: yeah, that wasn't for you ...
[13:14] <joelio> it means they're locked
[13:14] <joelio> passwd -l/-u
[13:14] <Surfer2010_> xD ^^
[13:15] <ppf> joelio: but being locked should still  allow login with a key, shouldn't it
[13:16] <ppf> " The user may still be able to login using another authentication token (e.g. an SSH key)." - manpage
[13:17] <motaka2> hello by a mistake i did sudo rm -r "/home/donkarlo/Downloads/Telegram Desktop/Kiu5Sep"/ /var/www
[13:17] <motaka2>   while i didnt want to delete things in /var/www , is there anyway back ?
[13:18] <Surfer2010_> any solution for my problem?
[13:18] <ppf> motaka2: not really, no. you can try various disk-recovery or uneraser tools and may have some success
[13:19] <motaka2> ppf: i havent restarted yet
[13:19] <k1l_> motaka2: the cli command rm doesnt have a trash. so only thing is something like photorec or extundelete.
[13:20] <motaka2> k1l_: ok thank you
[13:20] <ppf> also, unmount your disk immediately. any write to it will overwrite your data
[13:20] <motaka2> fuvk me
[13:20] <joelio> ppf: sure, why would the logs say something useful ;)
[13:20] <joelio> ppf: it depends how it's setup, if PAM in use etc
[13:20] <ppf> joelio: well, maybe the user didn't use their private key
[13:21] <joelio> well, increase the sshd verbosity and find out - or just check if the account is locked..
[13:21] <ppf> the account is locked; it doesn't have a password
[13:22] <joelio> ppf: so what excactly are you trying to do? As that is what should happen, when you're using PAM
[13:22] <ppf> sshd isn't using pam (UsePAM no)
[13:22] <k1l_> ppf: what do the logs say? and the auth log? which login shell is set for that user?
[13:22] <ppf> i'm trying to have a user who doesn't have a password log in over ssh
[13:23] <ppf> k1l_: interesting, the user's shell is empty
[13:25] <ppf> k1l_: auth.log says the above, "User X not allowed because account is locked" and "No supported authentication methods available [preauth]"
[13:29] <ppf> the locked bit appears to be a red herring, i found another locked user who has successfully logged in before. maybe it was the empty shell
[13:30] <ppf> i'll have them retry
[13:31] <geirha> yeah, it definitely needs a valid login shell
[13:42] <thepiercingarrow> Are there documentation complete instructions on the Command-line install? The graphical installer keeps hanging for me...
[13:42] <thepiercingarrow> (And yes, I checked the hashes)
[13:44] <RSpliet> how do I make apt ignore packages with broken dependencies and just do what I ask it to?
[13:44] <thepiercingarrow> RSpliet: --asume-installed
[13:45] <thepiercingarrow> RSpliet: will assume a certain package is installed - thus skipping that particular dependency
[13:45] <thepiercingarrow> RSpliet: or fix the MKPKG
[13:45] <RSpliet> thepiercingarrow: that roughly sounds like what I want, let me double check the manpage for it's use
[13:47] <RSpliet> no I deliberately don't want to fix this dependency (context: cuda wants me to install the nvidia driver packages, but the version offered and required is incompatible with valgrind-mmt. As a nouveau-dev, I need the latter, thus I installed an older driver from binary obtained directly from NVIDIA. The missing dependency thus is not a problem on my system)
[13:47] <thepiercingarrow> nividia?
[13:47] <thepiercingarrow> !nvidia
[13:47] <thepiercingarrow> !nvidia2
[13:47] <thepiercingarrow> um
[13:48] <thepiercingarrow> RSpliet: https://i.imgflip.com/1tpd.gif
[13:48] <joelio> RSpliet: try with no-recommends.. it might not be a hard requirement
[13:49] <RSpliet> joelio: i'm trying to install something non-related, but apt just refuses service for missing dependencies
[13:49] <joelio> do an apt-cache depends {pkg name} and see if it's a *Depends:
[13:49] <joelio> if it's a Recommends, then you can use no-recommends flag to ignore it
[13:50] <RSpliet> joelio: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23137058/
[13:51] <joelio> ok, so I guess there's a conflict with you wanting to dev on nouveau and using CUDA.. for obvious reasons I suppose
[13:52] <RSpliet> joelia: well, not quite. I want to use valgrind-mmt to be able to intercept communication between the NVIDIA userspace module and the graphics card. Fetch OpenCL kernel assembly
[13:52] <RSpliet> nouveau is only the motivation for doing so, but the nouveau drivers themselves are out of the picture :-)
[13:52] <joelio> and you need that for your custom nvidia binary? Is there a reason for using that and not the packages?
[13:53] <joelio> (in reation to valgrind reqs)
[13:53] <RSpliet> joelio: with more recent NVIDIA drivers NVIDIA changed the ioctl numbers, thus the tool to decode the trace logs no longer functions correctly
[13:53] <joelio> right, understood
[13:53] <RSpliet> ideally that tool gets fixed, but that is significantly more difficult than using an older binary
[13:54] <joelio> perhaps install it and manupulate using dkms
[13:54] <joelio> whcih sits outside of package management to some degree
[13:54] <maarlee> what os is every one on?
[13:54] <RSpliet> all I really need is apt to stay off my back. I don't mind it protecting people from shooting themselves in the foot, but I choose to take the safety pin off ;-)
[13:55] <joelio> Orion3k: otherwise it's pulling the source package and making edits to it to work with your requirements I suppose
[13:55] <OerHeks> maarlee, see topic perhaps?
[13:55] <k1l_> maarlee: this is #ubuntu, so what do you guess :)  if you have a specific support issue ask here. or join #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat
[13:55] <joelio> RSpliet: then debuilding the custom package without the Depenends.. or something
[13:55] <Cartman77> Hi, ihave an HP pavillon with dual partition Ubuntu and Windows 10, but windows 10 is really slow and freeze at all the time, ubuntu works perfectly, would you suggest me to uninstall windows 10 at all?
[13:56] <maarlee> crippling depression
[13:56] <maarlee> my hp pavilion fell and it died today
[13:56] <maarlee> it had a nvidia geforce 840m
[13:56] <maarlee> 8gb of memory
[13:57] <maarlee> and a core i7
[13:58] <thepiercingarrow> Is there no command-line install?
[13:58] <thepiercingarrow> Selecting command-line install in the menu just brings me to the normal graphical installer
[13:58] <k1l_> !ot | maarlee
[13:58] <maarlee> also to get rid of windows 10 just run the ubuntu installation again and remove windows 10
[13:58] <k1l_> thepiercingarrow: see the server or minimal install
[13:59] <maarlee> lol
[13:59] <thepiercingarrow> kl23: yes, I am using a minimal install
[13:59] <Cartman77> what about if i use OS-uninstaller
[14:00] <thepiercingarrow> kl23: then in the menu (12.04 Precise Pangolin), I selected "Command-line install" instead of the normal "Install", but its still graphical...
[14:00] <k1l_> thepiercingarrow: no. i mean the minimal install cd.
[14:01] <lordcirth> thepiercingarrow, also, don't install 12.04, it's nearly end of life
[14:01] <ton710> Help me please, whats chanel ubuntu BR?
[14:01] <lordcirth> ton710, brazil?
[14:01] <ton710> Yes
[14:01] <\9> !br
[14:02] <thepiercingarrow> lordcirth: what?
[14:02] <thepiercingarrow> lordcirth: why not?
[14:02] <ton710> Tanks
[14:02] <\9> thepiercingarrow: it will go EOL in april next year
[14:02] <\9> so you'll have to upgrade soon
[14:03] <kobeef> hello
[14:03] <thepiercingarrow> ummm
[14:03] <thepiercingarrow> Idk
[14:03] <thepiercingarrow> The official one wasn't working so thats why I got an alternate one
[14:03] <thepiercingarrow> But the alternate one isn't working either
[14:03] <thepiercingarrow> so thats why I want to do command-line install
[14:03] <k1l_> thepiercingarrow: what is with ubuntu 16.04?
[14:03] <\9> get the minimal install cd
[14:04] <\9> like how you've been told already
[14:05] <maarlee> lol
[14:05] <\9> !mini
[14:05] <lordcirth> thepiercingarrow, we are already on 16.04.  Best to install that.
[14:06] <maarlee> lol
[14:07] <maarlee> rip
[14:09] <maarlee> lol
[14:10] <RSpliet> thepiercingarrow, joelio: http://shallowsky.com/blog/linux/install/blocking-deb-dependencies.html seems very helpful. Thanks
[14:11] <JunkHunk> hello I am trying to upgrade ubuntu but it says there is not enough disk space...I set a home partition with 470 gb and a root partition with 30 gb how come there is not enough space?
[14:11] <JunkHunk> anyway how would I extend it?
[14:11] <JunkHunk> I thought using a live cd with gparted would do...but
[14:12] <rffleaie> hi, what is the difference between /etc/resolveconf/head and /etc/resolveconfe/base?
[14:12] <JunkHunk> no live linux is booting
[14:12] <botnut> remove your previous kernels
[14:12] <JunkHunk> oh
[14:12] <JunkHunk> would that be enough?
[14:12] <botnut> yes
[14:12] <JunkHunk> sudo apt-get autoremove?
[14:12] <botnut> no
[14:12] <k1l_> JunkHunk: are you booted to that ubuntu now?
[14:12] <JunkHunk> yes
[14:13] <k1l_> JunkHunk: run "df -h | nc termbin.com 9999"
[14:13] <OerHeks> autoremove *does* remove old kernels
[14:13] <botnut> as well as other things
[14:13] <clumsymittenhand> JunkHunk: http://askubuntu.com/questions/89710/how-do-i-free-up-more-space-in-boot
[14:13] <OerHeks> yes, other old packages that are no longer needed
[14:14] <botnut> i wouldnt use autoremove
[14:14] <OerHeks> botnut, don't make it harder than it is.
[14:14] <JunkHunk> k1l_, what is that command for?
[14:14] <botnut> harder lol
[14:14] <botnut> removing old kernals is point and click
[14:14] <k1l_> JunkHunk: it will show the actual used space on the partitions. so we have some facts to look at
[14:14] <JunkHunk> okay
[14:15] <botnut> just open the synaptic package manager
[14:15] <botnut> click clikc click
[14:15] <botnut> reboot
[14:15] <botnut> autoremove sometimes gets you in trouble and its doing more than just helping you free up boot partitions
[14:15] <OerHeks> ... false info, don't use that.
[14:16] <botnut> false info? wtf
[14:16] <botnut> i do that all the time lol
[14:16] <JunkHunk> I already did
[14:16] <joelio> autoremove always works fine for me
[14:16] <JunkHunk> autoremove
[14:16] <k1l_> JunkHunk: then show the url it outputs here please
[14:16] <botnut> one day youll see why autoremove wont work
[14:16] <botnut> ;)
[14:16] <OerHeks> botnut, please go troll somewhere else, thanks.
[14:16] <botnut> figure it out the hard way
[14:17] <joelio> botnut: trust me, I know
[14:17] <botnut> no trolling here buddy boy
[14:17] <JunkHunk> waiting for autoremove to finish
[14:17] <clumsymittenhand> hey I'm trying to install Touch on a chinese Meizu Pro 5... I've extracted all the tars to /system but it still not picking up the OS
[14:18] <clumsymittenhand> anyone have experience with ubuntu touch?
[14:18] <joelio> botnut: given sysadmin for several hundred users and wrote wrappers for autoremove.. ;)
[14:18] <k1l_> !touch  | clumsymittenhand
[14:18] <JunkHunk> k1l_, deb sdb1 28 gb 24gb used
[14:18] <clumsymittenhand> hahah yeah...I've gone through forums for days.
[14:19] <\9> JunkHunk: you could also remove old package debs with apt-get clean
[14:19] <k1l_> JunkHunk: why in the worls dont you just show use the url so we can see the facts and not only get partitial information from what you think is important?
[14:19] <\9> which should free up some space
[14:19] <botnut> joelio - whatever dude.. do as you please
[14:19] <botnut> this isnt a cock swinging competition
[14:20] <JunkHunk> http://termbin.com/vvj7
[14:20] <joelio> botnut: no, I'm just backing up what you're saying isn't true. You insinuated something about be knowing at some point. Deal with it a lot.
[14:20] <k1l_> JunkHunk: a 24GB root excluding /home is way too big.
[14:20] <JunkHunk> sda1 might be the problem not letting me live booting any linux
[14:21] <botnut> lost me
[14:21] <JunkHunk> I know thats why I am here asking
[14:21] <botnut> so are you saying what im saying is true and factual or not
[14:21] <botnut> lol
[14:21] <k1l_> JunkHunk: "dpkg -l | grep linux-image| nc termbin.com 9999"
[14:21] <JunkHunk> I thought 28 gb should be enough
[14:22] <JunkHunk> k1l_, http://termbin.com/1kj9
[14:22] <joelio> botnut: I'm saying you're wrong. That easy enough?
[14:22] <botnut> no
[14:22] <botnut> fuck off
[14:22] <k1l_> JunkHunk: it is enough. a regular desktop should not be bigger than 10-15GB
[14:23]  * \9 stares at his 55gb root partition
[14:23] <JunkHunk> then the autoremove thing?
[14:23] <k1l_> JunkHunk: "dpkg -l | grep linux-headers| nc termbin.com 9999"
[14:23] <JunkHunk> should I try again to upgrade now that it was autoremoved?
[14:23] <\9> so you did the autoremove? how much space did it free?
[14:24] <JunkHunk> k1l_, http://termbin.com/ak4f
[14:24] <k1l_> JunkHunk: there you go
[14:24] <\9> yeah that's a lot of kernels
[14:24] <lordcirth> Yup that's a lot of spare kernels
[14:24] <k1l_> JunkHunk: you got massive old kernel headers installed
[14:25] <k1l_> JunkHunk: "dpkg --list | grep 'linux-headers' | awk '{ print $2 }' | sort -V | sed -n '/'"$(uname -r | sed "s/\([0-9.-]*\)-\([^0-9]\+\)/\1/")"'/q;p' | xargs sudo apt-get -y purge"
[14:25] <JunkHunk> :-P
[14:25] <\9> apt-get -y? buh
[14:25] <joelio> ?
[14:25] <joelio> good for scripts to still use apt-get
[14:25] <k1l_> \9: for xargs. that doesnt like questions
[14:25] <JunkHunk> thanks
[14:26] <JunkHunk> I noticed my system was quite slow at boot
[14:26] <JunkHunk> I guess this fix will improve  that
[14:26] <\9> it's one apt-get though that is fed a specific number of packages
[14:26] <\9> feels a bit dangerous imo
[14:26] <k1l_> \9: that works.
[14:26] <\9> any number of packages*
[14:27] <joelio> if you've upgraded and not rebooted, it could be an issue.. aprart from that..
[14:27] <joelio> but they're only headers mind
[14:27] <JunkHunk> no no I just couldn't upgrade
[14:27] <JunkHunk> it didnt let me
[14:28] <JunkHunk> I dont recall the exact warning message...
[14:28] <JunkHunk> but it was about space
[14:28] <joelio> JunkHunk: sorry, was talking about \9 question
[14:28] <k1l_> run my command. that will clear the old headers. that should bring you a lot of free space
[14:28] <k1l_> (but it will take some time to remove all that)
[14:28] <JunkHunk> and I blamed my partitions... I was wrong
[14:28] <JunkHunk> k1l_, I did
[14:28] <JunkHunk> shall I upgrade now?
[14:28] <k1l_> JunkHunk: is it done?
[14:28] <JunkHunk> yes
[14:29] <k1l_> JunkHunk: "dpkg -l | grep linux-headers| nc termbin.com 9999"
[14:29] <pepi_> nejde skype na ubuntu mate 16.0.4
[14:29] <JunkHunk> heh that was a bit of prunning! http://termbin.com/eign
[14:30] <k1l_> JunkHunk: again "df -h | nc termbin.com 9999"
[14:31] <JunkHunk> http://termbin.com/8fym
[14:32] <k1l_> JunkHunk: ok. there is still a lot stored in /
[14:32] <JunkHunk> 80%
[14:32] <JunkHunk> could it be ue4?
[14:33] <zykotick9> JunkHunk: you might also want to check how large your apt cache is... "du -sh /var/cache/apt/archives/" using "sudo apt-get clean" would clear it, if you want...
[14:33] <JunkHunk> its a powerfull videogame editor
[14:33] <motaka3> hello, i am, following this, but i have just 1 partition what should i do ?  http://extundelete.sourceforge.net/
[14:34] <JunkHunk> k1l_, 4,2 M
[14:34] <k1l_> JunkHunk: where is it installed? in /opt?
[14:34] <JunkHunk> let me find out...
[14:34] <JunkHunk> I dont remember
[14:34] <\9> motaka3: then you have one partition
[14:34] <k1l_> JunkHunk: "cd / && sudo du -sh ./* | sort -hr "
[14:35] <\9> motaka3: its name is usually /dev/sda1
[14:35] <zykotick9> k1l_: ncdu might be easier...
[14:35] <motaka3> \9 how can i check this exactely ?
[14:35] <\9> motaka3: lsblk
[14:36] <k1l_> zykotick9: ah right. forgot about that.
[14:36] <motaka3> \9: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23137221/
[14:36] <k1l_> JunkHunk: or you can use "baobab" which is a gui to find things that use a lot of disk space
[14:36] <JunkHunk> k1l_,  in opt I installed another videogame editor called unity
[14:36] <pops44> Hey guys! I'm looking to advice on a good laptop that will run Ubuntu without much trouble
[14:36] <JunkHunk> unity3d k1l_
[14:37] <netvixtra> funny, my laptop froze when trying to charge my laptop from my nexus
[14:37] <\9> motaka3: well there you have your hard drive layout
[14:37] <\9> you should be able to tell which device/partition it is that you want to recover
[14:37] <motaka3> \9: can you help me retrieve files i lost from /var/www folder ?
[14:38] <\9> not any more than that /var/www will likely be in sda1
[14:38] <JunkHunk> k1l_,  this command cd / && sudo du -sh ./* | sort -hr is still  keeping bussy the computer
[14:38] <\9> motaka3: because sda1 is / and there is no separate partition for /var
[14:38] <BluesKaj> pops44, if it can run W7 it can run ubuntu
[14:39] <motaka3> \9 I dont want the whole partition, i just want to get back what there was in /var/www
[14:39] <\9> motaka3: it could be anywhere in the partition. you'll have to dig it all
[14:39] <k1l_> JunkHunk: it scans and calculates the disk usage. you can cancel it with "ctrl+c"
[14:39] <pops44> Ya I was just wondering if you guys had any recommendations about which laptops are most trouble free when using Ubuntu
[14:40] <motaka3> \9: i am new to linux can you help me ?
[14:40] <\9> motaka3: that is if it hasn't been overwritten already
[14:41] <\9> motaka3: you already have a nice article on this web page
[14:41] <\9> you now know your partition, so what's stopping you?
[14:42] <motaka3> if i unmount partion how can I run the commands?
 \9 I dont want the whole partition, i just want to get back what there was in /var/www   <<< that is not how it works.
[14:42] <\9> motaka3: you could remount it as read-only as specified in the article
[14:42] <\9> motaka3: alternatively, use a live session
[14:42] <\9> which would be safer anyway
[14:42] <motaka3> k1l_: yeah I get, should i stp chatting with you on this computer ?
[14:43] <\9> motaka3: the longer you stay on your running system the greater the chances that your data will be overwritten and lost forever
[14:43] <k1l_> motaka3: you are on the filesystem level now. the tools will try to scan the not yet overwritten parts of the disk and try if there is still something that looks like files or folders.
[14:43] <motaka3> \9 so tell me step by step what i should do
[14:43] <JunkHunk> okay then...I might say videogame editors are to blame for my overloaded root partition...now how would I extend it? is there a way to extend appart from using a live cd with gparted?
[14:43] <\9> motaka3: boot to your ubuntu install medium
[14:44] <k1l_> motaka3: yes. every second you use this pc with that disk is making it overwrite more parts of that deleted files.
[14:44] <motaka3> \9: whats that ?
[14:44] <\9> then follow this document from it
[14:44] <\9> motaka3: well how did you install ubuntu?
[14:46] <uxfi> hello
[14:47] <mjayk> hay uxfi
[14:47] <uxfi> hi mjayk
[14:47] <uxfi> :)
[14:48] <nikic> hi. Am I seeing it correctly that ubuntu has patched openssl to always execute the fips selftest, even if fips mode is not used?
[14:49] <uxfi> mjayk; hello how are u
[14:49] <motaka2> \9: I shut down that pc
[14:49] <motaka2> what should I do now?
[14:49] <JunkHunk> k1l_, http://dl.dropbox.com/u/15853560/%3A%20bash%20%E2%80%93%20Konsole_001.png
[14:49] <uxfi> how are you all doing
[14:49] <uxfi> anyone use Ubuntu MATE?
[14:51] <k1l_> JunkHunk: yeah, i guess "baobab" will be easier for you to use since that is a gui.
[14:51] <zykotick9> uxfi: if you have a question about ubuntu-mate you should just ask it... all on one line.
[14:51] <k1l_> JunkHunk: but you could see if that is already enough space to upgrade
[14:51] <JunkHunk> k1l_, is it?
[14:51] <uxfi> ok
[14:52] <uxfi> My question for Ubuntu mate is. IS it easy to isntall thigns like Apache and all so I can run smalll website on a small computer I have ?
[14:52] <uxfi> it can be a server I mean?
[14:52] <mcphail> uxfi: yes
[14:52] <uxfi> ok
[14:52] <k1l_> uxfi: yes. its the same base as the ubuntu server edition
[14:52] <uxfi> ah yes
[14:52] <uxfi> ok so im not dumb
[14:53] <spartonicus> uxfi: yes, it can turn into anything you want (which for development is fine). If you want a traditional server consider something headless like ubuntu server
[14:53] <uxfi> spartonicus; Does that use less RAM?
[14:53] <uxfi> the computer has 1gb ram
[14:54] <spartonicus> uxfi: yes, but just realize it does not use a GUI (by default).
[14:54] <k1l_> uxfi: a lot of ram will be used by the desktop. that is why servers dont have desktops
[14:54] <uxfi> yes i know
[14:54] <compdoc> uxfi, I use ubuntu server and select LAMP during install to have it set up Apache2 for me. Then I install a minimal Mate desktop to no crap like bluetooth and libreoffice
[14:54] <uxfi> let me grab a server image...
[14:55] <uxfi> compdoc; hm ok
[14:55] <uxfi> I dont think I'll need a GUI
[14:55] <th0r> k1l_, actually I run three raspberry pi servers, and each has X installed. I don't hook them to a monitor or boot into the de, but use X-forwarding via ssh
[14:55] <motaka2> k1l_: are you there?
[14:55] <spartonicus> uxfi: its been a while since ive used mate, but it usually levels off at about 250-350mb used of memory (depending on config)
[14:55] <uxfi> hey th0r
[14:55] <motaka2> k1l_: i shut down that computer
[14:55] <k1l_> th0r: still, that is not the classical set of a server.
[14:56] <uxfi> I found a Ubuntu Server minimal disk image? will that be easy to install? I assume it will detect my wifi and such?
[14:56] <k1l_> motaka2: yes. support only in here, please. motaka2 now run photorec or extundelete and see what those can rescue from the harddisk.
[14:56] <captainACE> hello world!
[14:57] <uxfi> hi captainACE
[14:57] <spartonicus> uxfi: that depends on your wifi chipset, intel will work out of the box.  Realtec might take a couple extra steps, same for broadcom
[14:57] <captainACE> how to add desktop widgets to ubuntu?
[14:57] <motaka2> k1l_: the reason I pmed you is that here is busy and the situation is very critical to me. now that the pc is with ubuntu is turned off how can run extundelete?
[14:57] <uxfi> spartonicus; Broadcom?
[14:58] <k1l_> motaka2: start a live ubuntu from a usb or dvd
[14:58] <motaka2> k1l_: I have non of them
[14:59] <k1l_> motaka2: then you cant rescue
[14:59] <spartonicus> uxfi: if it is broadcom there is a broadcom driver, but that driver varies depending on specific broadcom chipset
[14:59] <inline> hello
[14:59] <captainACE> hi
[14:59] <spartonicus> uxfi: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[14:59] <uxfi> ah
[14:59] <uxfi> yes
[14:59] <\9> motaka2: make one then
[15:00] <captainACE> how to add desktop widgets to ubuntu?
[15:00] <motaka2> \9: how ?
[15:00] <\9> !burn
[15:00] <\9> !usb
[15:00] <motaka2> \9: cant i use the command line before start ing?
[15:00] <spartonicus> uxfi: once you identify what chipset you can manually copy the required packages / downloaded.....or connect up via ethernet and install them (easier way)
[15:00] <\9> cd or usb stick
[15:00] <makerman> i use screenlets
[15:01] <motaka2> \9: my internet quality is not good at all
[15:02] <k1l_> motaka2: i think you still dont understand how small your chance of rescuing the data is. and with running that machine while it uses that disk will erase all data you want to rescue, because its placeing its new files over the old ones.
[15:02] <captainACE> what does eye-candy mean?
[15:02] <mjayk> captainACE: things that look nice
[15:03] <captainACE> i mean in linux terms?
[15:03] <k1l_> captainACE: eyecandy is good looking stuff that doesnt have any technical reason. like closing animation from a program.
[15:03] <\9> motaka2: you can use a lighter distribution such as puppy linux, if ubuntu is too much to download. note that if you do that you're on your own though
[15:03] <captainACE> ahh ok
[15:04] <motaka2> \9: I will buy a DVD if I can and I will return in an hour. will you be here?
[15:04] <\9> it doesn't matter whether or not i'm here then
[15:04] <\9> someone will be
[15:05] <captainACE> how do i add widgets to my ubuntu mate desktop?
[15:05] <\9> but i'll probably be around
[15:05] <stevev> hello
[15:05] <\9> captainACE: the desktop doesn't support widgets iirc. you'll have to use panels
[15:05] <motaka2> \9: thank you
[15:06] <captainACE> what are panels?
[15:06] <\9> captainACE: the sidebar(s) on the edges on your screen
[15:06] <\9> with your window list/menu/clock etc
[15:06] <captainACE> ohhh that
[15:06] <captainACE> nah that will look awful
[15:10] <captainACE> how do i add the screenlets package to synaptic?
[15:11] <captainACE> it says that the package is not available?
[15:11] <\9> !info screenlets
[15:12] <captainACE> it doesnt show any info!
[15:13] <captainACE> is there a way i can add the package?
[15:13] <ioria> !info screenlets trusty
[15:13] <captainACE> sorry what?
[15:13] <\9> looks like it became obsolete
[15:14] <captainACE> shoul di run the !info command in terminal?
[15:14] <\9> its homepage doesn't exist anymore
[15:14] <makerman> im still running screenlets just fine
[15:14] <\9> captainACE: the package exists in trusty (14.04) but not anymore in xenial (16.04)
[15:15] <\9> my guess is that it's obsolete and broken
[15:15] <makerman> probably going to uninstall it i hardly look at them since i have so many windows up all the time
[15:15] <makerman> screenlets works for the most part - some screenlets dont but the majority still do
[15:15] <captainACE> hmm....:(
[15:15] <\9> captainACE: try some alternative, e.g. gdesklets
[15:15] <captainACE> i so wanted to add widgets
[15:15] <k1l_> does mate support widgets at all?
[15:15] <captainACE> gdesklets? gonna try it now
[15:15] <makerman> are there any out there that add something to the menu bar up top ?
[15:16] <\9> k1l_: not out of the box
[15:16] <captainACE> well i installed conky on linux mint mate
[15:16] <\9> k1l_: you just have panel applets
[15:17] <k1l_> conky is still available. you can use that captainACE
[15:17] <captainACE> well its not on the manager,ill try running the command
[15:18] <k1l_> !info conky-all
[15:18] <k1l_> there you go
[15:18] <captainACE> is there conky manager available?
[15:19] <captainACE> hard to configure widgets without it
[15:20] <netvixtra> what system does ubuntu use to access android file system phones by default?
[15:20] <k1l_> just a a conky script form someone that you like. put it into the .conkyrc, done
[15:20] <chandru_in> Is there a secure source (TLS and not editable by community) to get the fingerprints of GPG keys used to sign ISOs?
[15:20] <k1l_> netvixtra: mtp, since that is what modern androids use
[15:20] <uxfi> hi chandru_in
[15:20] <uxfi> pranam
[15:20] <uxfi> :)
[15:20] <k1l_> !md5sum | chandru_in
[15:20] <captainACE> are you indian?
[15:20] <uxfi> who?
[15:20] <netvixtra> k1l_: yeah, guess so, but mtp and its tools is not installed.
[15:20] <captainACE> you
[15:21] <netvixtra> k1l_: and still works in nautilus
[15:21] <uxfi> captainACE; well I know the place well but no are you?
[15:21] <chandru_in> k1l_, isn't that page editable with anyone who signs up?
[15:21] <k1l_> chandru_in: the checksums are on the iso servers.
[15:21] <ducasse> netvixtra: nautilus etc uses gvfs, i think
[15:21] <captainACE> yes
[15:21] <captainACE> i am you said pranam thats why i asked
[15:22] <k1l_> netvixtra: sudo apt-get install mtpfs
[15:22] <captainACE> any idea where .cokrc files are located
[15:22] <netvixtra> k1l_: aldready there but it's failing
[15:22] <k1l_> netvixtra: what is failing?
[15:23] <captainACE> any idea where .conkyrc files are located
[15:23] <netvixtra> k1l_: Transport endpoint is not connected
[15:23] <k1l_> captainACE: in your users home
[15:24] <k1l_> netvixtra: make sure your android is set to use mtp too
[15:24] <netvixtra> Yeah, of course.
[15:24] <chandru_in> k1l_, did you miss my message?
[15:24] <captainACE> there is nothin in the home folder,checked the filesystem too
[15:24] <joelio> captainACE: they're hidden files
[15:24] <joelio> a . at the start means it's hidden
[15:25] <jarnos> Why is copying from usb 3.0 drive to computer via usb 2.0 port so slow? (1MB/s)
[15:25] <joelio> captainACE: if on console, use ls -la.. otherwise if in a gui there is a 'show hidden files' option ususally
[15:25] <k1l_> chandru_in: the help.ubuntu page links to the md5sum file on the imageservers. and they are synced from the main servers where only the server team (employees) have an account.
[15:25] <captainACE> ohh
[15:25] <k1l_> chandru_in: what isse do you have with the md5sums?
[15:26] <k1l_> jarnos: because usb2 is slow.
[15:26] <netvixtra> k1l_: thats why I've googled the shit out of it. it's working out of the box with ubuntu. but not via terminal.
[15:26] <jarnos> k1l_, I expect something like 30BM/s still.
[15:26] <k1l_> netvixtra: do you have mtp-tools isntalled?
[15:26] <jarnos> ^MB/s
[15:27] <netvixtra> k1l_: of course
[15:27] <tqk> asd
[15:27] <bumblefuzz>  every now and then my mouse and trackpad stop working entirely in ubuntu
[15:28] <bumblefuzz> I end up holding down the power button and doing a hard reset because I can't get around the system to fix anything
[15:28] <bumblefuzz> anyone else have or heard of this problem?
[15:28] <makerman> yeah
[15:28] <makerman> wound up replacing the buttons and trackpad on my laptop to make it work
[15:29] <makerman> another time it was getting the right drivers installed on a different laptop
[15:29] <bumblefuzz> but it happens with my bluetooth mouse too
[15:29] <bumblefuzz> it isn't hardware
[15:29] <chandru_in> k1l_, it can be MITMed and I need to trust the mirrors. That is why the signature of the checksum files is provided along with checksums itself. This page contains fingerprints, but I don't see a way to open it on HTTPS.
[15:29] <makerman> find the proper drivers
[15:29] <chandru_in> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/how-to-verify
[15:30] <bumblefuzz> I'm pretty sure I'm using the proper drivers though
[15:30] <bumblefuzz> how do I find out?
[15:30] <makerman> find out what hardware you have and see if you have those packages installed for that hardware
[15:31] <BluesKaj> bumblefuzz, type recommended drivers in the run command
[15:31] <makerman> sometimes if you just go to "Software & Updates" dialog and click on "Additional Drivers" it might show you others you could use
[15:31] <makerman> or what blue said
[15:31] <makerman> lol
[15:32] <bumblefuzz> yeah, nothing comes up
[15:32] <spacecub> hi all
[15:32] <bumblefuzz> this is my system http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/hardware/201511-20298/
[15:32] <BluesKaj> bumblefuzz, then do what makerman said :-)
[15:32] <ducasse> chandru_in: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_of_trust <<< this is how you are supposed to obtain keys
[15:33] <makerman> Keyboard 	
[15:33] <makerman> Unknown AT Translated Set 2 keyboard
[15:33] <makerman> Mouse 	
[15:33] <makerman> Unknown TPPS/2 IBM TrackPoint
[15:33] <bumblefuzz> right I did that
[15:33] <makerman> looks like your system doesnt know what trackpad you have installed
[15:33] <bumblefuzz> nothing comes up
[15:33] <bumblefuzz> they work fine most of the time
[15:33] <makerman> ok so dont do anything
[15:33] <makerman> lol
[15:34] <bumblefuzz> but they completely stop working every few hours and I want to fix it
[15:34] <makerman> so dow hat we said
[15:34] <bumblefuzz> i did!
[15:34] <makerman> what model tinkpad do you have
[15:34] <bumblefuzz> x260
[15:35] <BluesKaj> bumblefuzz, how often do you update and upgrade your packages/system?
[15:35] <bumblefuzz> daily
[15:35] <makerman> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/06/thinkpad-trackpad-fix-linux-scripts
[15:36] <spacecub> Hi guys, why is chrome asking me to set a keyring password?
[15:36] <spacecub> on startup :)
[15:36] <jarnos> k1l_, I guess there was some kind of electrical connection problem. I started copying again and now it is around 30MB/s
[15:37] <BluesKaj> track/touchpads are a pita for me , so i use a small wireles mouse instead on my laptop
[15:37] <makerman> on dell i just install synaptics
[15:37] <makerman> and it works fine
[15:37] <noneman_> hi!
[15:38] <makerman> except with the latest 16 release i didnt have to do didly on this old laptop
[15:38] <chandru_in> ducasse, how to bootstrap the trust?
[15:39] <bumblefuzz> BluesKaj: I use a bluetooth mouse
[15:39] <bumblefuzz> and both the trackpad and mouse stop working when this happens
[15:39] <BluesKaj> my Lenovo G500 trackpad works fine , but I just don't like using it
[15:40] <captainACE> back!
[15:40] <ducasse> chandru_in: that's not a topic for this channel.
[15:40] <chandru_in> ducasse, why isn't GPG key's fingerprint served over HTTPS at ubuntu.com, sufficient seed?
[15:40] <ishwon> Anybody around encountered flickering in Google Chrome while using Ubuntu 16.04?
[15:41] <makerman> nope
[15:41] <makerman> i dont use chrome
[15:41] <makerman> sorry
[15:41] <ishwon> Okay @makerman
[15:41] <r063R1> --------------------------------------------------
[15:42] <zykotick9> !behelpful | makerman
[15:42] <makerman> ..................................................
[15:42] <ducasse> chandru_in: try ##security or #gnupg
[15:42] <r063R1> HOW DO I ADD GOOGLE DRIVE TO MY DESKTOP ON UBUNTU 14.04
[15:42] <makerman> WOW
[15:42] <ducasse> r063R1: turn off caps lock
[15:42] <captainACE> CAPS!!!
[15:42] <makerman> please
[15:43] <makerman> !!
[15:43] <r063R1> whY
[15:43] <Zeranoe> Any ideas why my Ubuntu VM cannot ping/resolve my host machine (Windows 10) hostname? Pinging the IP works. I have winbind installed
[15:43] <makerman> try switching network modes
[15:43] <makerman> dont use nat
[15:43] <Zeranoe> makerman: bridged already
[15:44] <makerman> essh
[15:44] <Zeranoe> makerman: Ubuntu has it's own IP
[15:44] <makerman> zeranoe - that used to happen to me all the time whenever i had a windows station running a linux vm - i would have to wind up removing the nic card in the vm and adding back a new one for it to work again
[15:45] <Zeranoe> hm
[15:46] <r063R1> when directing a message to me please use r063r1: (what ever the message is) so that I know who is saying what to me because all isee is a bunch of text.you can leave out the parentheses
[15:47]  * makerman uhhhhhhhhh
[15:47]  * thepiercingarrow uhhhhhhh
[15:47] <thepiercingarrow> r063R1: what happened?
[15:48] <thepiercingarrow> r063R1: ohhh like pinging - I see
[15:48] <r063R1> how do i add google drive to my desk top
[15:48] <thepiercingarrow> What is the minimal install disk / where do I find it?
 are you looking to mount the Google drive?
[15:49] <r063R1> is that what it is called
[15:49] <joelio> run awawyyyyyy
[15:49] <makerman> thepiercingarrow: tkl?
[15:49] <freeforall> aaaa
[15:50] <ishwon> r063R1: you cannot mount it like an 'external' storage
[15:50] <r063R1> hello
[15:50] <thepiercingarrow> r063R1: you want google drive where
[15:51] <grimel> Hi, all. Does anybody use zim (notepad like editor)?
[15:51] <thepiercingarrow> makerman: tkl?
[15:51] <joelio> really https://github.com/astrada/google-drive-ocamlfuse ?
[15:51] <joelio> you can mount gdrive via fuse
[15:52] <ishwon> r063R1: there is unity app for Google Docs
[15:53] <motaka2> \9: I got that
[15:53] <noneman_> who want test google apps?
[15:53] <captainACE> me?
[15:54] <captainACE> what do you wanna test?
[15:55] <\9> motaka2: okay so, boot to your install cd and specify "try ubuntu" instead of installing it. then you'll get a desktop that runs off your cd
[15:55] <\9> then you can follow the instructions you have on extundelete
[15:56] <ishwon> noneman_: i use google apps
[15:56] <r063R1> as i n how
[15:56] <\9> now I'll have to pass for a while instead, need to go shopping
[15:56] <\9> ask in here if you run into problems
[15:56] <motaka2> \9: ok i have a question i bought 16.04 and on the machine I have intalled 14.04, isnt that a problem ?
[15:56] <r063R1> what problems
[15:57] <ducasse> !who | r063R1
[15:59] <r063R1> Ishwan: how do i get google drive on my device
[15:59] <ducasse> r063R1: try installing unity-scope-gdrive
 i want google drive off line
[16:00] <motaka2> \9: ok thank you
[16:00] <backbox> hello
[16:00] <backbox> i need help
 what is the code
[16:01] <backbox> who can help me
[16:01] <ducasse> r063R1: 'sudo apt install unity-scope-gdrive'
[16:01] <ishwon> r063R1: offline defeats the purpose of cloud. if it's not online then it is on-disk and that means you're rather looking for a syncing client. is that it?
[16:01] <backbox> i take 20$ from paypal
[16:02] <ducasse> !backbox | backbox
[16:02] <r063R1> ishwon: isnt that what google drive offline is
[16:03] <backbox> i wanna crack ftp one server who can help me
[16:03] <ducasse> !illegal | backbox go away
[16:04] <motaka2> 	hello i have deleted /var/www by a mistake and I am trying to retrieve that by extundelete, does any one has any experiece ?
[16:04] <ducasse> !recover | motaka2
[16:04] <r063R1> basically you can use it offline and when u connect to the internet it will sync to the cloud
[16:04] <chucky> boa tarde.
[16:05] <ducasse> r063R1: google does not offer an official google drive client for linux
[16:05] <r063R1> ishwon is there a number that i can call you at
[16:06] <r063R1> ishwon: are there any games on linux that are simular to 100 doors
[16:08] <compdoc> when I install ubuntu from scratch and then attach a drive that was used on the old system, sometimes user ids have changed, so the wrong users and groups are now the owners of directories. how can I fix or prevent that?
[16:08] <SchrodingersScat> r063R1: there's a couple projects, none may be in repos, that can read google drive.  One is an ocaml thing that can mount it as fuse, and then there's one or two that do push/pull type operations.
[16:09] <zykotick9> compdoc: note, it is possible when creating users to specify the UID...  when creating users on the 2nd system, you could make sure they match the first...
[16:09] <cart_man> Hey guys where do I get the Ubuntu version of -> arm-linux-gcc-4.3.2.tgz ?
[16:11] <joelio> cart_man: what are you trying to achieve?
[16:11] <joelio> in terms of arm build
[16:11] <compdoc> zykotick9, youd think they could come up with a better way than having me manually track ids
[16:12] <cart_man> joelio: Believe it or not... I have been trying to simply buld Qt4 embedded for 3 days now... I simply want to be able to Cross-Compile with Qt4 and my target is an IMX6 Board... its been failing miserably
[16:12] <SchrodingersScat> !info google-drive-ocamlfuse | r063R1 not sure why i didn't see this befre
[16:12] <SchrodingersScat> wut
[16:13] <cart_man> joelio: I downloaded every possible lib thereis but somewhere something creeps up
[16:13] <SchrodingersScat> oh, that came from a ppa, I've shamed myself
[16:15] <joelio> cart_man: ok, so what method are you using to cross compile, do you have any steps taken so far you could pastebin. I've done it before for jenkins builds (using pbuilder fwiw)
[16:15] <r063R1> SchrodingersScat
[16:17] <cart_man> joelio: I will try and remember everything and Pastebin the steps to you
[16:17] <joelio> no worries
[16:17] <joelio> just a rough outline would do
[16:18] <orfeo> Hello folks!
[16:18] <joelio> cart_man: it was a bit messy to setup of course.. I needed to end up using qemu and other stuff
[16:19] <orfeo> Could someone help me to figure how to read php errors on ubuntu server please?
[16:19] <thepiercingarrow> hai
[16:19] <thepiercingarrow> hai
[16:20] <orfeo> I am currently trying to tail -f /etc/log/apache2/error.log
[16:20] <joelio> orfeo: just pastebin them and share here
[16:20] <joelio> redact anything sensitive etc
[16:20] <orfeo> joelio: I need to be able to see them first :)
[16:20] <r063R1> SchrodingersScat: what is the xenial
[16:20] <joelio> orfeo: how do you know it's broken>
[16:22] <orfeo> joelio: I don't know where the file is located
[16:22] <laszlowaty> hi guys. Is there some sort of critical error in unity or ubuntu 16.04 itself? I'm asking because In past few days I have reinstalled ubuntu three times. After login screen (sometimes before) it just freezes. This problem occurs ONLY after few reboots after installation.
[16:23] <joelio> orfeo: you say you have php errors, where are they if you don't know?
[16:23] <joelio> if they're in the browser, pastebin them
[16:23] <joelio> otherwise not sure what we can do to help if you're not seeing an error but think there is :)
[16:23] <orfeo> joelio: all I get is a black screen when I try to access the code, I am guessing they contain errors
[16:24] <joelio> orfeo: what do you mean access the code?
[16:24] <sharkman> if i am on linux, and do "xset dpms force off" and turn my monitor off, and restart my computer, will the monitor be on or off?
[16:24] <joelio> open the file, open in browser, you need to be more specific if you want some help :)
[16:25] <joelio> sharkman: only persists - won't after a reboot
[16:25] <joelio> sharkman: that generally goes in init
[16:25] <motaka2> ducasse: actually I am using extundelete
[16:25] <sharkman> ah okay thanks joelio.  thats what i figured
[16:25] <sharkman> just wanted to make sure before i turned it off and couldnt get it on again
[16:26] <ducasse> motaka2: http://linoxide.com/linux-how-to/linux-recover-deleted-data-extundelete/ but your chances to recover are slim.
[16:27] <sharkman> how would i turn monitor back on? with a black screen would i somehow have open up a command prompt and type in the command to turn it on?
[16:27] <cart_man> joelio: -> http://pastebin.com/m1T4mVqg
[16:28] <ducasse> motaka2: and frankly, if you don't have a backup the data can't be that important.
[16:28] <cripcate> hey, i use ubuntu 16.04 and recently updated my kernel to 4.7.2 because my system freezed when i woke it up from suspend. Now i have a new, similar problem, as my wifi status disappeares after i wake up my laptop again
[16:28] <thepiercingarrow> I still don't understand - what is the minimal iso?? Theres stuff like Penguin and Xenial, but what is the *minimal iso*?
[16:28] <cripcate> im still connected, but cant switch networks or get any information. it shows the ethernet icon instead. anyone know how to solve this?
[16:28] <ducasse> !mini | thepiercingarrow
[16:28] <motaka2> ducasse: what do you mean ?
[16:29] <orfeo> joelio: I just used phpinfo() function and Apache is currently set not to log error files.
[16:30] <_arktos75_> miniaml is a barbone system, no gui no anything ... bare minimum to run the system!
[16:30] <ducasse> motaka2: if you have important data, you back it up, so accidental deletion is not a big problem.
[16:30] <motaka2> ducasse: you are right  my friend
[16:30] <aaqw> I'm not on Ubuntu, I'm on Debian, but noe of the other relevant IRC channels are active enough so here goes: GNOME lists no output or input sound devices
[16:30] <thepiercingarrow> If I install the MinimalCD then install the lubuntu-desktop package, would that technically be Lubuntu, or Ubuntu+LXDE?
[16:31] <ducasse> motaka2: try the article i gave a link to, but i'm surprisedf if you recover everything.
[16:31] <joelio> cart_man: yea, you're using different GCC version there, not too great
[16:31] <Flannel> thepiercingarrow: yes.
[16:32] <thepiercingarrow> Flannel: awesome thanks
[16:32] <joelio> cart_man: what distro are you on ooi?
[16:32] <ducasse> aaqw: sorry, we only support ubuntu. try oftc.net, where debian support lives.
[16:32] <motaka2> ducasse: i have backedup most of the things, just i missed some unimportant things, it would just take me a day to recreate them. but thank you anyway
[16:32] <ducasse> motaka2: as i said, you can try.
[16:32] <thepiercingarrow> Whats the difference between Xenial Xerius vs WIlly Werewolf etc? for the minimal installs?
[16:32] <thepiercingarrow> And which one should I get?
[16:33] <ducasse> thepiercingarrow: wily is eol.
[16:33] <cart_man> joelio: I am on Ubuntu
[16:33] <thepiercingarrow> ducasse: eol?
[16:33] <thepiercingarrow> !eol
[16:33] <thepiercingarrow> oh
[16:33] <cart_man> joelio: What do yo mean with the different GCC version?
[16:33] <thepiercingarrow> So I should get the xenial one then
[16:33] <thepiercingarrow> cart_man: gcc --version
[16:33] <ducasse> thepiercingarrow: yes.
[16:33] <motaka2> ducasse: can you move up in this channel and give me a link I sent two hours ago on paste.ubuntu.com ?
[16:34] <joelio> cart_man: I know you're on ubuntu, but which version :)
[16:34] <joelio> it mattters as GCC versions change
[16:34] <ducasse> motaka2: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23137221/ ?
[16:34] <motaka2> thank you
[16:35] <cart_man> joelio: Its 14.04 and the GCC is version 4.8.4
[16:35] <joelio> cool ta
[16:35] <motaka2> ducasse: i actually bought a dvd of ubuntu ti use it live. can I run the commands from there?
[16:35] <ducasse> motaka2: sure.
[16:36] <joelio> cart_man: so you are using the wrong versions of gcc - at least with that downloaded version. 4.3.2 vs 4.8.4 - *but* there is a better way - not involving downloading tarballs
[16:36] <motaka2> ducasse: may I PM  you ?
[16:36] <cart_man> joelio: OMG I AM all ears !
[16:36] <cart_man> joelio: What does one do?
[16:37] <ducasse> motaka2: i know nothing about extundelete, keep it in the channel so others can help.
[16:37] <joelio> cart_man: are you set on using cross compiling natively or can you take the hit of emulation. I should also ask if you've checked if QT not available for arm in the version you need
[16:37] <thepiercingarrow> !rms
[16:37] <joelio> which gets around the build issue (probably have but just checking)
[16:37] <motaka2> ducasse: i am very new to linux, I scare to make things worse
[16:37] <thepiercingarrow> motaka2: what do you want?
[16:38] <cart_man> joelio: Yea I unfortunately have to be set on native topion
[16:38] <joelio> cart_man: you bascially do the builds inside and arm emulation layer, not cross-compiled in traditional sense
[16:38] <thepiercingarrow> motaka2: also not to put you off buntu or anything, but typically new beginners prefer "Arch" for its simplicity, wiki, and community
[16:38] <motaka2> thepiercingarrow: i am trying to use extundelete
[16:38] <cart_man> joelio: Hmmmm
[16:38] <captainACE> guys any idea why my ubuntu pc lags for no reason (i have good specs)
[16:38] <joelio> cart_man: only for pkg build -not for runtime!
[16:38] <thepiercingarrow> motaka2: extundelete? apt-get instlal extundelete
[16:38] <joelio> cart_man: you can ship the built package onto the real McCoy
[16:38] <joelio> just build in emulated layer
[16:39] <lordcirth> thepiercingarrow, arch is not for beginners...
[16:39] <motaka2> thepiercingarrow: i have it installed and I have my system with a live DVD on, i have deleted some files from /var/www
[16:39] <lordcirth> Unless they are quite adventurous
[16:39] <captainACE> i have 8gb ram installed on my pc why does ubuntu uses only 3????
[16:39] <thepiercingarrow> lordcirth: idk, but Ive been using arch as my first distro - it was simple to install because i followed the arch wiki. I can't wrap heads or tails around this Ubuntu I'm still trying to install
[16:39] <thepiercingarrow> And is there no torrent for The minimal iso?? This is taking forever...
[16:40] <geggam> so.... is there a preferred way of removing gnome from ubuntu ?
[16:40] <joelio> cart_man: what specific board do you have too - or arm version.. armv7 armhf arm64 etc?
[16:40] <lordcirth> geggam, why do you want to remove it?
[16:41] <joelio> geggam: gnome isn't shipped with ubuntu.. so yea, apt-get purge ubuntu-gnome-desktop
[16:41] <geggam> because i dont like it lordcirth
[16:41] <thepiercingarrow> geggam: yes there is apt-get uninstall gnome
[16:41] <joelio> you want the metapacakge, not gnome
[16:41] <cart_man> Cortex 9 on Wandboard / Ruitboard
[16:41] <joelio> that way you'll remove other deps too
[16:41] <cart_man> joelio: ^^
[16:41] <thepiercingarrow> this is why arch is simpler - pacman -Qs gnome | pacman -Rs --no-confirm
[16:41] <geggam> that is what i was looking for joelio ...thanks
[16:41] <joelio> geggam: np
[16:41] <thepiercingarrow> Wait whats the difference between purge and uninstall?
[16:42] <joelio> thepiercingarrow: what - compared to apt-get purge ubuntu-gnome-desktop ?
[16:42] <joelio> :P
[16:42] <zykotick9> thepiercingarrow: purge remove config files
[16:42] <lordcirth> thepiercingarrow, I like Arch too, but I don't recommend it to beginners
[16:42] <thepiercingarrow> zykotick9: cool! so awesome
[16:42] <joelio> cart_man: ok, ta
[16:42] <thepiercingarrow> wowowow purge will remove configs! xD wow this is great already!
[16:43] <thepiercingarrow> joelio: :P
[16:43] <thepiercingarrow> I <3 buntu
[16:43] <geggam> it is a good desktop / laptop experience
[16:43] <thepiercingarrow> seriously though the minimal install doesn't have a torrent? im gonna have to wait 2 hours to download this .iso
[16:44] <joelio> thepiercingarrow: http better than torrent, surely?
[16:44] <geggam> joelio, you happen to know the name of the development metapackage to develop C / C++ ?
[16:44] <lordcirth> thepiercingarrow, well seeing as the minimal downloads packages from the internet, I'm not sure what the point is if you can't download things fast.
[16:44] <thepiercingarrow> um..
[16:45] <thepiercingarrow> well I got the official .iso but that won't even boot
[16:45] <thepiercingarrow> thats why I'm looking into the minimal ones
[16:45] <lordcirth> geggam, build-essentials is a good start
[16:45] <orfeo> how do I make php log errors, couls someone help me please?
[16:45] <ducasse> thepiercingarrow: two hours to download ~50mb? use another mirror.
[16:45] <thepiercingarrow> I keep getting boot failure 0005 for the official one.
[16:45] <thepiercingarrow> ducasse: Um. I'm just clikcing download from the main website... bad idea?
[16:45] <lordcirth> orfeo, that's more of a PHP question than an Ubuntu question
[16:45] <thepiercingarrow> archive.ubuntu.com
[16:46] <thepiercingarrow> geggam: gcc
[16:46] <ducasse> thepiercingarrow: maybe, look for a local mirror.
[16:46] <geggam> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MetaPackages o look ... handy website :)
[16:46] <thepiercingarrow> ducasse: where would I find those?
[16:46] <joelio> geggam: not sure there's a specific thing, build-essential usually wraps that up
[16:46] <ducasse> thepiercingarrow: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mirrors
[16:46] <thepiercingarrow> ducasse: awesome thanks
[16:47] <captainACE> how to install python modules(e.g pyowm) from command line
[16:47] <joelio> cart_man: ok, so it's armv7 - you already have packages for Qt5 in the repos :) Unless I'm missing something obvious, you shouldn't need to compile a thing
[16:48] <cart_man> joelio: Ok but for the past 3 days ive been open one can of worms after another... This is the real deal?
[16:49] <joelio> cart_man: if you need to build - use https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/BuildArmPackages
[16:49] <joelio> there *should* be packages - checking now :)
[16:50] <motaka2> i can cd to /dev , but I cant cd to sda one , here is my structure:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/23137221/
[16:51] <joelio> cart_man: effectively what you've got is the same chip as Raspbery Pi 2 - which seems to have a fair amout of stuff for qt5 builds on raspbian etc
[16:51] <cart_man> joelio: Just for extra info... if you download a later version then you require.. lets say I have GCC 4.8.4 like I do actaully... and I download something else with a version 4.9 ... is that something I should worry about? Or is there some backward compatability built into it 4.9?
[16:51] <joelio> well, before going to far, is this personal or something that needs deploying in production
[16:52] <joelio> if the latter, you really need a toolchain to build this and update packages/backport security etc
[16:52] <joelio> you really want GCC to match, especially if it's in the same toolchain/Make :)
[16:53] <joelio> I'd be inclined to build packages in qemu using https://wiki.qt.io/Native_Build_of_Qt5_on_a_Raspberry_Pi and take the packages to install on the board
[16:53] <joelio> that kinda thing..
[16:53] <joelio> I'm failing to find packages :/
[16:53] <cart_man> joelio: Its deployment on quite a strict level
[16:54] <ducasse> motaka2: that's not how it works, /dev/sda1 is a block device node. read the link i gave you earlier, but this might be above your level.
[16:54] <motaka2> ducasse: i am reading it
[16:56] <hggdh> motaka2: in other words, /dev/sda1 is *not* a directory, so you cannot cd to it.
[16:56] <captainACE> how to install python modules(e.g pyowm) from command line
[16:57] <motaka2> ducasse: how can I run extundelete then ?
[16:57] <captainACE> *terminal
[16:57] <captainACE> how to install python modules(e.g pyowm) from the terminal?
[16:57] <joelio> captainACE: pip install
[16:57] <nicomachus> captainACE: with pip
[16:58] <joelio> captainACE: I use pyenv too fwiw
[16:58] <nicomachus> it's on pyowm's git page: https://github.com/csparpa/pyowm
[16:58] <ducasse> motaka2: that article tells you how it works, you can also read the man page.
[16:58] <captainACE> ahh i thought there was a diffrent command in linux
[16:58] <motaka2> ducasse: yeah but in that article he is not using a live dvd , should I forget the live DVD ?
[16:59] <ducasse> motaka2: no, you need to do it from a live image, and recover the data to a different filesystem so you don't overwrite the lost files.
[17:00] <motaka2> ducasse: please help me to do that, the live DVD is up and running
[17:01] <captainACE> how do i configure where the icons are placed (default location) on ubuntu mate
[17:02] <ducasse> motaka2: i've got to go in a minute, and this can take a loooong time, sorry.
[17:02] <joelio> cart_man: http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/armhf/qt5-default/download
[17:03]  * joelio forgot armv7 is armhf!
[17:03] <motaka2> ducasse: ok by I have installed the soft, i just dont know how to access from live dvd
[17:03] <joelio> cart_man: so yea, packages exist :D
[17:09] <AndChat517376> Hey,guys!
[17:09] <puchogenzo> hi
[17:09] <ducasse> motaka2: should just be "sudo extundelete /dev/sda1"
[17:10] <motaka2> ducasse: how would that work on a live dvd ?
[17:11] <ducasse> motaka2: why should it not? just install it first if it's not already there.
[17:12] <lordcirth> ducasse, can you install packages on the livedvd these days?
[17:12] <motaka2> ducasse: can I install things on livedvd ?
[17:13] <ducasse> yes, it runs from ram.
[17:13] <smartimp99> hey....im trying to install some packages....specifically this is the command im running:  sudo apt-get install libpolarssl5 libpolarssl-dev libpolarssl-runtime libfuse-dev
[17:13] <smartimp99> and im getting this error
[17:13] <lordcirth> I don't remember it working last time I tried
[17:13] <smartimp99> E: Unable to locate package libpolarssl5 E: Unable to locate package libpolarssl-dev E: Unable to locate package libpolarssl-runtime
[17:13] <smartimp99> from what i understand, i need to add the 'universe' source but its already added.
[17:13] <smartimp99> 'universe' distribution component is already enabled for all sources.
[17:13] <smartimp99> but i still get the error, even after running apt-get update
[17:13] <motaka2> sudo apt-get install extundelete , it says unable to locate extundelete
[17:14] <thepiercingarrow> test
[17:14] <lordcirth> smartimp99, what guide is telling you to install these?
[17:14] <smartimp99> lordcirth, https://github.com/Aorimn/dislocker/issues/71
[17:14] <smartimp99> my ultimate goal is to install dislocker, which has these dependencies
[17:14] <cart_man> joelio: Awesome ! Thanks allot !
[17:14] <lordcirth> motaka2, did you run 'apt-get update' first?
[17:15] <motaka2> ioria: are you there?
[17:16] <motaka2> lordcirth: no iam doing it
[17:16] <lordcirth> smartimp99, polarssl hasn't been in Ubuntu since Wily
[17:17] <motaka2> lordcirth: still the same error
[17:17] <smartimp99> hm, i dont use ubuntu much so i just downloaded 16.04 hoping to be able to use this.  is there an alternative source i can add to get this?
[17:17] <smartimp99> or am i going to have to manually make and install it
[17:17] <lordcirth> smartimp99, here: https://github.com/Aorimn/dislocker/issues/76
[17:18] <smartimp99> oh wow, i should have checked the other issues first
[17:18] <smartimp99> thanks so much!
[17:18] <captainACE> how do i configure where the icons are placed (default location) on ubuntu mate
[17:21] <energizer> I have .desktop files for a program in ~/.local, /opt, and /usr/share. Which one takes priority?
[17:21] <captainACE> how do i print in ubuntu i am using an epson printer? theres only one option in gedit("print to file")
[17:21] <elias_a> captainACE: Install a driver for the printer.
[17:22] <ducasse> energizer: ~/.local, usually.
[17:22] <energizer> ducasse: ok good thanks
[17:24] <ducasse> energizer: user config usually takes precedence over system config.
[17:24] <energizer> that makes sense, good
[17:24] <energizer> ducasse: what about /opt vs /usr/share
[17:26] <ducasse> energizer: i would *guess* opt, but it probably depends on the individual program which path is searched first.
[17:30] <senaps> ChanServ
[17:31] <georgioGastapo> donald rumps wife is running for the next after election, her claim to fame? she claims to have outsourced more blow jobs than itlary climinal\
[17:31] <ducasse> energizer: also, if the paths are in an env variable, those are usually searched in order.
[17:32] <ducasse> !ot | georgioGastapo
[17:32] <energizer> ducasse: oh right, seems obvious now
[17:32] <energizer> thanks
[17:33] <energizer> I have a config directory that I want to use as a git repo directory, for all my dotfiles. Is it possible to automatically symlink everything in that dir into ~/?
[17:33] <energizer> without having to do it individually every time?
[17:34] <geggam> ln -s srcdir/* ~/
[17:34] <geggam> enjoy that mess
[17:34] <energizer> geggam: bad idea?
[17:35] <geggam> not terrible but since you dont know command line it would be interesting to see you clean it up energizer
[17:35] <ducasse> energizer: it could easily end up very messy, imo, but do as you choose :)
[17:36] <geggam> not could... it would be a mess ducasse  :)
[17:36] <energizer> ok, maybe there is a better solution. I'd like to be able to sync .emacs, .purple, .ssh/config and more with git, what's the most reasonable way to do that?
[17:37] <geggam> rsync energizer
[17:37] <geggam> and not git
[17:37] <geggam> learn more command line before you start doing exotic things with your home :)
[17:38] <geggam> o... and backup... make many backups :)
[17:38] <PCdude> anybody here familiar with MAAS?
[17:38] <energizer> honestly id like to have version control if possible
[17:38] <geggam> it is... but to do it well you should have a rudimentary understanding of shell and cli energizer
[17:39] <lordcirth> PCdude, Metal As a Service?  I worked with it for a bit.
[17:39] <energizer> geggam: i think i do
[17:39] <geggam> then go for it... just make backups :)
[17:39] <lordcirth> !ask | PCdude
[17:39] <geggam> no one learns from doing things perfect... you learn when you really hose shit :)
[17:40] <energizer> geggam: if indeed only a rudimentary understanding... but i'm doing my reading...
[17:40] <motaka2> when I run $ mount -o remount,ro /dev/sda1 it says mount you must specify the file system type
[17:40] <geggam> find -type l -exec rm {} \+ will come in handy  when you make 5000 links in your home energizer
[17:41] <PCdude> lordcirth:  yes indeed Metal As a Service , my question is that the nodes get the wrong DNS server to use and therefore can't resolve simple DNS request. Where in MAAS can I set the value for the DNS server that is used by the nodes of the MAAS cluster?
[17:41] <geggam> also learn / understand the difference between soft  and hard links energizer
[17:41] <Guest92857> hello
[17:41] <Guest92857> i need help
[17:41] <elias_a> !ask
[17:42] <Guest92857> sony ericsson  xperia arc lt15i reboot loop
[17:43] <ducasse> Guest92857: android?
[17:43] <Guest92857> yes
[17:43] <szb> Hello folks! Sorry for the wall of text! I accidently removed my ability to "print to file"! I purged 'cups' and probably all that comes with it! I tried to reinstall those, but I can't be sure if all the default packages are back in place! I tried to follow my steps with this advice: https://askubuntu.com/a/250530 but those logs don't even show that cups & co. were removed. How do I find out which packages for printing come by default
[17:43] <szb> with 16.04?
[17:43] <ducasse> Guest92857: then why ask us?
[17:44] <thepiercingarrow> um
[17:44] <lordcirth> PCdude, https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/clouddocs/en/Installing-MAAS.html  Go to "Cluster Configuration" Section
[17:44] <mattysmart> how to install mysql on ubuntu
[17:44] <thepiercingarrow> How come mirrors that i've checked don't support the minimal isos?
[17:45] <lordcirth> mattysmart, sudo apt install mysql-server
[17:45] <thepiercingarrow> apt?
[17:45] <thepiercingarrow> alias apt="apt-get" ?
[17:45] <lordcirth> thepiercingarrow, apt replaces apt-get
[17:45] <Techspectre> Lately, in Ubuntu 16.04, launching certain apps causes all my monitors to turn off, and then all but one of them turn back on
[17:46] <lordcirth> I suppose you might still need apt-get on old Ubuntu versions
[17:46] <Techspectre> to get that one to turn back on, I have to reboot into Windows and then back into Ubuntu
[17:46] <lordcirth> Techspectre, that's quite strange.  What graphics card and driver?
[17:46] <thepiercingarrow> lordcirth: what what what??
[17:46] <thepiercingarrow> is apt a package?
[17:46] <thepiercingarrow> apt-get install apt??
[17:47] <Techspectre> lordcirth, Nvidia GTX-670 with the Nvidia proprietary driver v 361.42
[17:47] <thepiercingarrow> nividia?
[17:47] <thepiercingarrow> Torvalds would not approve.
[17:47] <lordcirth> thepiercingarrow, apt is the new package management command.
[17:47] <geggam> find -L /var/www/ -xtype l is a more functional way to find symlinks energizer
[17:47] <thepiercingarrow> wowow. They replaced apt-get!
[17:47] <thepiercingarrow> so pro! :/
[17:47] <lordcirth> thepiercingarrow, apt is nicer.
[17:47] <Techspectre> thepiercingarrow, I went with Nvidia *because* I use Linux, because I understand Radeon drivers for Linux are less than adequate
[17:48] <lordcirth> Techspectre, correct
[17:48] <thepiercingarrow> :
[17:48] <thepiercingarrow> Torvalds:
[17:48] <bumblefuzz> so, while configuring from source, I got an error where it was checking whether the C++ compiler works
[17:48] <ducasse> thepiercingarrow: apt is intended as a user-friendly frontend to the collection of apt-* tools.
[17:48] <mattysmart> when install mysql, i try to get into it via mysql -u root -p
[17:48] <bumblefuzz> what do I do about this?
[17:48] <lordcirth> That's why I got a GTX 1060
[17:48] <thepiercingarrow> Nvidia has been the single worst company we (the OSS community) have ever dealt with.
[17:48] <thepiercingarrow> So Nvidia, FUCK YOU!
[17:48]  * thepiercingarrow sticks up middle finger
[17:48] <lordcirth> bumblefuzz, well, that would depend on the error.  Is build-essentials installed?
[17:48] <mattysmart> but when i do i get cant connect to local mysql server through socket 'var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock
[17:48] <lordcirth> !language | thepiercingarrow
[17:48] <Techspectre> thepiercingarrow, that was years ago. Nvidia has stepped up their Linux game since then
[17:48] <energizer> geggam: ok i see
[17:49] <thepiercingarrow> xD
[17:49] <bull_> haha
[17:49] <PCdude> lordcirth: yeah I have read that before, but if u look closely u can see that there cannot be set a DNS value there. Also when only selecting the DHCP option there is no DNS option available.
[17:49] <bumblefuzz> lordcirth: I can't find package build-essentials
[17:49] <bull_> some hot topic been discussed here ?? lol
[17:49] <Techspectre> Normally I'd prefer to support AMD because they're the industry's underdogs, but I can't deal with crappy drivers. Anyways...
[17:49] <thepiercingarrow> How come mirrors that i've checked don't support the minimal isos?
[17:49] <lordcirth> bumblefuzz, ah, apparently it's 'build-essential', sorry
[17:50] <bumblefuzz> no it wasn't installed
[17:50] <bumblefuzz> let's retry
[17:50] <bull_> sudo apt-get install build-essential
[17:50] <Techspectre> lordcirth, something about the Windows driver tells the monitor to turn on. What could it be?
[17:50] <bumblefuzz> ...works like a charm
[17:50] <bumblefuzz> thanks!
[17:50] <lordcirth> Techspectre, no idea.  Quite a strange problem.
[17:50] <bull_> bumblefuzz, you developing something ?
[17:50] <bumblefuzz> nope
[17:51] <bull_> then ?
[17:51] <bumblefuzz> trying to install powertop
[17:51] <bumblefuzz> not much experience installing from source
[17:51] <bull_> from src?
[17:51] <lordcirth> bumblefuzz, but powertop is in repos?
[17:51] <bull_> oh
[17:51] <bumblefuzz> it is?
[17:51] <bumblefuzz> ...oh
[17:51] <lordcirth> Most things are
[17:51] <bumblefuzz> lol
[17:51] <bull_> haha
[17:51] <bumblefuzz> oh well, at least I know a lil more about installing from source
[17:52] <lordcirth> bumblefuzz, btw, there's a new power-management thingy called 'tlp' you might want to look at.
[17:52] <bumblefuzz> always trying to learn
[17:52] <bull_> yeah tlp is awesome
[17:52] <bumblefuzz> lordcirth: I just finished installing that one
[17:52] <bumblefuzz> I routinely get ~23 hours on a full charge in Ubuntu Mate
[17:52] <bumblefuzz> thinkpad x260
[17:52] <bumblefuzz> seeing if I can squeeze more out of it
[17:52] <mattysmart> how to check if mysql is running?
[17:53] <lordcirth> PCdude, I don't have a MAAS interface in front of me, so I can't remember where DNS is set
[17:53] <lordcirth> mattysmart, systemctl status mysql<tab>
[17:53] <mattysmart> i get status: unkown job:mysql
[17:54] <Techspectre> I'm going to install the nvidia drivers from that new ppa and see if that helps
[17:55] <PCdude> lordcirth:  ah ok, np, maybe u can look later
[17:56] <i> i dont remember the password for ubuntu, and the password for root, what should i do?
[17:56] <adaman7> reinstall:P
[17:56] <PCdude> u can restart the machine in
[17:56] <lordcirth> There's a factoid for this I think
[17:57] <PCdude> "one user mode" there u can reset the password of the root user
[17:57] <lordcirth> i, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LostPassword  And use "other way"
[17:57] <ducasse> !password | i
[17:58] <energizer> geggam: ok is my understanding right: if i rm a symbolic link, just the link goes away; if i rm a hard link the file goes away
[17:58] <geggam> well.. the hardlink can stay after an rm if there is another hardlink to it energizer
[17:59] <geggam> its interesting when you start playing with them... src controls like svn and git leverage hardlinks to save diskspace..so does time machine on apple
[17:59] <energizer> geggam: ok, does this line up nicely with either pointers/references in c, or names in python?
[17:59] <geggam> similar yes energizer
[18:04] <ll00_1> hi guys, i need help
[18:04] <ll00_1> http://pastebin.com/0f7Hz4Ec
[18:04] <thepiercingarrow> How can I get the minimal iso from a closer mirror?
[18:04] <thepiercingarrow> apparantly its only available at archive.ubuntu.com
[18:09] <Sven_vB> will 'nice --adjustment=N' from a shell that has niceness S, will the spawned process have niceness S+N?
[18:09] <thepiercingarrow> ohhh
[18:09] <thepiercingarrow> this is ubuntu-unregged
[18:09] <d3xter> hey guys
[18:09] <thepiercingarrow> wait what?
[18:10] <thepiercingarrow> what is ubuntu-unregged???
[18:10] <d3xter> how can i find out the paths a shared library is searched in for?
[18:10] <lordcirth> thepiercingarrow, this is #ubuntu
[18:10] <thepiercingarrow> oh
[18:10] <thepiercingarrow> my client is messed up, sorry
[18:10] <Sven_vB> d3xter, you can strace a program that tries to find the lib
[18:10] <lordcirth> Sven_vB, that's what 'man nice' says
[18:11] <Sven_vB> lordcirth, thanks, because my manual page isn't clear about + or -
[18:11] <lordcirth> Well, I think.  Lets test!
[18:11] <d3xter> Sven_vB: hm, how can i add new paths?
[18:12] <lordcirth> Sven_vB, just tested, it does add
[18:12] <Sven_vB> d3xter, dunno. probably depends on the language the program is written in, or the loader if it's compiled.
[18:12] <akik> d3xter: you can use patchelf to edit the runpath in the binary
[18:12] <Sven_vB> lordcirth, thanks!
[18:14] <Guest56462> hola euri xd
[18:14] <Euri> Gera
[18:14] <akik> d3vlin_: or you can use LD_LIBRARY_PATH
[18:15] <Guest56462> deja trabajar euri
[18:15] <Euri> Dejame en paz
[18:15] <Euri> mari
[18:15] <Guest56462> hola amriam
[18:15] <Euri> A ver Marian e.e
[18:16] <guest-pj42> jaja eso que
[18:16] <Euri> Eyyyyy
[18:16] <MonkeyDust> !es
[18:16] <OerHeks> guest-pj42, Euri  you are on the same network
[18:16] <OerHeks> !ot
[18:17] <thepiercingarrow> hola
[18:17] <thepiercingarrow> lo siento - solo hablamos ingles aqui
[18:17] <thepiercingarrow> es un "ENGLISH ONLY" channel
[18:17] <Euri> Sara
[18:18] <guest-pj42> que tenemosque hacer
[18:18] <sara> jajajj
[18:18] <Euri> Pues tenemos que biscar lo de eso
[18:18] <Euri> Del disco duro
[18:18] <guest-pj42> que eso
[18:18] <guest-pj42> aaah
[18:18] <thepiercingarrow> como?
[18:19] <Euri> Y las unidades de estado solido
[18:19] <OerHeks>  sara Euri guest-pj42  please chat in the offtopic channel, thanks
[18:19] <thepiercingarrow> lol
[18:19] <thepiercingarrow> do you speak english? hablas ingles
[18:19] <thepiercingarrow> ?
[18:19] <szb> I've run into an issue that I can't seem to solve: I removed printing support (cups & co) some while ago, now noticed I might need it again, so I reinstalled. But I can't "print to file" from Evince and Gedit, but it works from LibreOffice, Firefox, Gimp... I just checked on another machine which is basically an untouched, vanilla install of 16.04.1 - and it has the same problem! Does anybody know how to troubleshoot this?
[18:20] <OerHeks> print to file is all the same cups, szb
[18:21] <OerHeks> destination > save to pdf
[18:22] <szb> OerHeks: Sorry, I should have added: In Evince or Gedit (maybe others) if I go to File > Print - the Print option is grayed out. I can't even select it!
[18:22] <guest-pj42> jaja
[18:23] <Euri> No puedes solo copiarlo
[18:23] <ducasse> guest-pj42, Euri: do you have a question? in english?
[18:24] <guest> I am looking for help with ubuntu server
[18:24] <lordcirth> !ask | guest
[18:25] <guest> ? I am confued now
[18:25] <guest-pj42> que es un disco duro
[18:25] <guest-pj42> solido
[18:25] <OerHeks> guest just ask, wait and see .. and there is also #ubuntu-server :-)
[18:25] <ducasse> guest-pj42: stop.
[18:26] <guest-pj42> NO
[18:26] <Euri> Pero ella no :C
[18:26] <Euri> Ella es amor <3
[18:26] <Ben64> guest-pj42: chat with your friends that are in the same room as you in your own channel, don't do that crap here
[18:26] <guest-pj42> y por qude?
[18:28] <guest-pj42> adios amor mio
[18:28] <guest> thank you I joined the other channel
[18:31] <thepiercingarrow> um wut??
[18:36] <hackeron> Hi there, anyone have any solution to this? < https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/systemd/+bug/1593379
[18:36] <MonsieurBon> Hi all
[18:37] <ducasse> hackeron: nothing in the comments?
[18:38] <szb> OerHeks: I have no intentions to annoy you, but in case you want to look into it, here's a screenshot for clarification: https://postimg.org/image/yo4ezvf6d/# As you can see, the printing option in Evince or Gedit is simply grayed out and unusable for reasons unknown to me! Apologies again if I'm disturbing!
[18:38] <OerHeks> szb, no it is oke :-)
[18:38] <MonsieurBon> I'm trying to use musixtex to do some choral scores. I would like to put them all into one document. I have installed texlive-music which contains mtxlatex.sty but it's only in /usr/share/doc. Should I just copy it to /usr/share/texlive somewhere? What would be the proper location?
[18:39] <OerHeks> szb, what happens if you type a few characters first? it cannot print an empty page you know ...
[18:39] <szb> OerHeks: I tried that and it doesn't do a thing. It also doesn't matter if the document is in a saved or unsaved state! :/
[18:40] <OerHeks> szb, it is greyed out here too, unless i type 1 character
[18:40] <ll00_1> http://pastebin.com/0f7Hz4Ec
[18:40] <OerHeks> as your postimg
[18:41] <szb> The pdf on the left side actually has text behind that file menu! As for Gedit: I just tried again and it just doesn't want to work.
[18:43] <OerHeks> szb, then i have no clue :-(
[18:45] <szb> OerHeks: Thanks for taking the time, anyway! :) I just thought of checking my user permissions, forgot about that! Maybe something is actually screwed up there!
[18:46] <ducasse> ll00_1: looks like a network problem, it can't resolve hostnames.
[18:48] <Guest88460> Nick server??
[18:49] <Guest88460> gest88460
[18:51] <d4nd> ehllo!
[18:53] <cameron_> sup
[18:53] <cameron_> cool
[18:54] <d4nd> how u guys doin'?
[18:54] <cameron_> doing well
[18:54] <cameron_> just put ubuntu mate on my raspberry pi
[18:54] <cameron_> enjoying it alot
[18:56] <szb> OerHeks: According to some forum entry, I added myself to the 'lp' and 'lpadmin' group! I'll reboot and let you know what happens! :D
[18:57] <d4nd> nice
[18:58] <d4nd> gotta got
[18:58] <d4nd> cya
[18:58] <d4nd> exit
[19:02] <cameron_> lol
[19:03] <cameron_> hi guys
[19:03] <cameron_> rage
[19:04] <il> ciao
[19:07] <thepiercingarrow> My installation is stuck like this: http://imgur.com/a/6ZCpX
[19:07] <thepiercingarrow> How do I select continue?
[19:08] <Aussprech> Try Tab and enter
[19:09] <Aussprech> Tab around to the continue button
[19:09] <thepiercingarrow> What?
[19:09] <thepiercingarrow> oh okay
[19:09] <thepiercingarrow> Is there no text version?
[19:09] <thepiercingarrow> This graphical one is super slow
[19:09] <Aussprech> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tab_key
[19:09] <thepiercingarrow> Ohhh that one
[19:09] <Aussprech> There is Ubuntu Server version
[19:10] <thepiercingarrow> I see
[19:10] <thepiercingarrow> Ubuntu Server version?
[19:10] <Aussprech> Yeah. It has no graphical interface
[19:10] <Aussprech> so more better performance on older machines
[19:10] <thepiercingarrow> Will is still do a normal Ubuntu install?
[19:10] <Aussprech> It is still a normal ubuntu install - but without all the graphical stuff installed. So you will not have a desktop after start
[19:11] <Aussprech> BUT you COULD install the graphical desktop after if you want
[19:11] <thepiercingarrow> Oh, I see.
[19:11] <thepiercingarrow> Thanks - makes sense
[19:11] <thepiercingarrow> So I'd just boot into the console, right?
[19:11] <Aussprech> Its called "Ubuntu server" because most servers run without graphical stuff - you just dont need it for that
[19:11] <Aussprech> Right
[19:11] <Aussprech> Terminal / console .. whatever you want it to call :)
[19:11] <thepiercingarrow> Hey, I never knew that
[19:11] <thepiercingarrow> Tab key (abbreviation of tabulator key[1] or tabular key[2])
[19:12] <thepiercingarrow> btw console = what you boot into, and terminal = graphical thing when ur on an X server, I *think
[19:12] <Aussprech> with the tab key you can move around without a mouse
[19:12] <thepiercingarrow> cool
[19:12] <Aussprech> On windows too :)
[19:12] <thepiercingarrow> xD
[19:12] <Aussprech> :D
[19:15] <mrtrousers> hello, I need help
[19:15] <Aussprech> Hello! Ask :)
[19:15] <Aussprech> Maybe someone can help :)
[19:15] <mrtrousers> I have a laptop which had windows, and an externar hard drive which had ubuntu
[19:16] <mrtrousers> I booted in the external hdd with ubuntu and loged in . But it froze.
[19:16] <mrtrousers> Then i turned the computer off and on again
[19:16] <mrtrousers> it went to grub rescue..
[19:16] <mrtrousers> When i turn on the computer with no external hdd there is no windows anymore it seems
[19:16] <mrtrousers> and when i try to boot with the external drive it goes to grub rescue
[19:17] <Aussprech> For the "windows is away" problem: Maybe you have to set the boot priority right for windows
[19:17] <mrtrousers> when i do ls in grub rescue i see hd0 hd0 msdos hd0 msdos and hd1
[19:17] <mrtrousers> ok
[19:17] <mrtrousers> the main thing is i want to recover my hdd ubuntu files and make it work
[19:19] <artur> Do you know mayby some canal whith people who do on qt?
[19:19] <Aussprech> qt?
[19:20] <artur> Aussprech: yes... Im looking for speaks about c++
[19:20] <mrtrousers> hello how can i recover my external hard drive ubuntu
[19:21] <Aussprech> maybe ##c++ @artur ?
[19:21] <Aussprech> ^^
[19:21] <maasstyle> hello
[19:22] <maasstyle> this is cool
[19:22] <lordcirth> maasstyle, hello.
[19:22] <Aussprech> You mean IRC maasstyle?
[19:22] <maasstyle> hi there!! guyz
[19:24] <maasstyle> so how long have been using linux
[19:24] <rexwin__> how to change the passwd for user ubuntu
[19:24] <maasstyle> Lordcirth
[19:25] <rexwin__> sudo passwd ubuntu
[19:25] <rexwin__> passwd: user 'ubuntu' does not exist
[19:25] <lordcirth> maasstyle, 6 years.  This is the Ubuntu support channel, not chat.  Did you have a question?
[19:25] <Aussprech> ubuntu is your hostname I think
[19:25] <thepiercingarrow> Aussprech: okay, once I've downloaded the server version, what do I do?
[19:25] <thepiercingarrow> rexwin__: its literally passwd
[19:26] <maasstyle> i got it.. how can i remove the guest account
[19:26] <thepiercingarrow> rexwin__: whats his username?
[19:26] <Aussprech> New to IRC - someone is write to me with "Aussprech: TEXT" and its green .. how to answer him? Wtf :D
[19:26] <thepiercingarrow> What?
[19:26] <rexwin__> ubuntu
[19:26] <gajuith> Aussprech: just type their name and what you wish to say
[19:26] <thepiercingarrow> rexwin__: if the username is ubuntu then its passwd ubuntu
[19:27] <rexwin__> it doesnot accpet
[19:27] <Aussprech> gajuith test
[19:27] <gajuith> Aussprech: exactly
[19:28] <Aussprech> gajuith, thx!
[19:28] <rexwin__> i can't even login by bitvise or putty
[19:28] <Aussprech> thepiercingarrow You can Install it like every other linux distribution
[19:28] <maasstyle> how can i remove the  guest account in ubuntu
[19:29] <maasstyle> lordcirth please help me out
[19:29] <energizer> When I open emacs24, it opens wayyy too big, like 10 times the size of my workspace. How can I fix this?
[19:29] <thepiercingarrow> Aussprech: I am fairly new to linux - before Ubuntu, my only distro was arch linux
[19:29] <gajuith> massmc: http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2016/04/remove-guest-session-ubuntu-16-04/
[19:30] <Aussprech> thepiercingarrow no problem. But you showed us a screenshot with the desktop version of ubuntu - right? Was it in a virtualbox?
[19:30] <gajuith> maasstyle: http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2016/04/remove-guest-session-ubuntu-16-04/
[19:30] <thepiercingarrow> Aussprech: but for some reason this "ubuntu-server" is still graphical...
[19:30] <thepiercingarrow> Aussprech: qemu
[19:30] <thepiercingarrow> Aussprech: for arch, you just type some commands
[19:30] <thepiercingarrow> I install it like this: http://thepiercingarrow.github.io/howto/arch.md
[19:30] <thepiercingarrow> but im pretty sure Ubuntu is different...
[19:30] <Aussprech> thepiercingarrow with graphical you mean the blue background and some buttons?
[19:30] <thepiercingarrow> yeah
[19:31] <thepiercingarrow> which makes it slow
[19:31] <thepiercingarrow> the menu takes forever to load
[19:31] <thepiercingarrow> cant i launch a shell and type commands to install ubuntu?
[19:31] <Aussprech> thepiercingarrow Thats just in the beginning - no real graphical interface if you started the right version. Can you make a screenshot?
[19:31] <artur> Aussprech: ok maybe Im dreamer but one day I will know c
[19:31] <Aussprech> artur what di you mean? :D
[19:31] <Aussprech> artur *do
[19:32] <thepiercingarrow> Aussprech: i've been stuck in this screen for about 2 minuets: http://imgur.com/rV8J1iO
[19:33] <Aussprech> thepiercingarrow there is something wrong. so this qemu is a virtualbox thing? I recommend "virtualbox". Its free https://www.virtualbox.org/
[19:33] <thepiercingarrow> Aussprech: ohhh I see what you mean
[19:33] <thepiercingarrow> Aussprech: also qemu is a very popular VM
[19:34] <thepiercingarrow> Aussprech: read https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/QEMU
[19:34] <thepiercingarrow> (dont read - just like take a peek)
[19:34] <Aussprech> :D
[19:34] <thepiercingarrow> anyway, it finally loaded
[19:34] <Aussprech> ah okay :)
[19:35] <energizer> How can I change the size that an application window is when it opens? My application is too big.
[19:35] <thepiercingarrow> energizer: which WM?
[19:35] <energizer> thepiercingarrow: new install + compiz
[19:36] <mrtrousers> Is this ubuntu support channel_
[19:36] <thepiercingarrow> energizer: not sure, sorry.
[19:36] <mrtrousers> _
[19:36] <thepiercingarrow> try dragging the bottom left of the window
[19:36] <thepiercingarrow> that usually resizes windows
[19:36] <thepiercingarrow> Aussprech: I'm stuck in http://imgur.com/taB1Tts and it wont move
[19:36] <energizer> it works once, but reopens too big every time
[19:37] <Aussprech> thepiercingarrow tried the tab key?
[19:37] <thepiercingarrow> no
[19:37] <thepiercingarrow> i hit enter..
[19:37] <thepiercingarrow> hm
[19:37] <thepiercingarrow> okay ill wait and see if that works
[19:37] <Aussprech> I think .. there is something wrong with your virtual enviroment
[19:38] <thepiercingarrow> Lol
[19:38] <thepiercingarrow> I'll try virtualbox then
[19:38] <Aussprech> I dont know .. but maybe thats the problem
[19:40] <rexwin__> Connecton failed. FlowSocketConnector: Failed to connect to target address. Windows error 10060: A connection attempt failed because the connected party did not properly respond after a period of time, or established connection failed because connected host has failed to respond. 01:01:31.662 The SSH2 session has been terminated.
[19:41] <rexwin__> this is the error I get when connecting through bitvise
[19:41] <mrtrousers> im not getting much help in here..
[19:41] <energizer> compiz, once again, with the solution
[19:42] <Aussprech> mrtrousers, what was your question?
[19:43] <mrtrousers> Aussprech. I have a problem with an external hard drive which has ubuntu, when i try to boot in it goest to grub rescue.
[19:43] <mrtrousers> Aussprech. I had a laptop with windows, booted from external hdd and logged in ubunt, it froze so i turned computer on and off
[19:44] <Aussprech> Ah yeah.
[19:44] <mrtrousers> Aussprech , im worried the computer put some windows on it or something..
[19:44] <Aussprech> I dont know anything about it .. so :/
[19:44] <Aussprech> I dont think that it will do stuff like that :)
[19:47] <mrtrousers> Hello. Any ubuntu expert willing to help?
[19:49] <rexwin__> Connecton failed. FlowSocketConnector: Failed to connect to target address. Windows error 10060: A connection attempt failed because the connected party did not properly respond after a period of time, or established connection failed because connected host has failed to respond. 01:01:31.662 The SSH2 session has been terminated.
[19:49] <rexwin__> this is the error I get when connecting through bitvise
[19:53] <thepiercingarrow> Aussprech: I believe its working now!! Thanks!!
[19:53] <Aussprech> thepiercingarrow, with virtualbox?
[19:53] <thepiercingarrow> Aussprech: sry, with QEMU
[19:54] <Aussprech> thepiercingarrow, nice! :)
[19:54] <thepiercingarrow> Aussprech: Virtual-box was taking too long to download :/
[19:54] <Aussprech> thepiercingarrow, What did you do?
[19:54] <thepiercingarrow> Aussprech: idk.. I just restarted qemu and it worked
[19:54] <thepiercingarrow> I also closed all my games :/ maybe that helped :P
[19:54] <gajuith> Hi, is there anyone that is familiar with the i915 video driver issues with 16.04? I've attempted the fix at https://aboutsimon.com/blog/2016/07/20/Ubuntu-16.04-external-monitor-flickering-and-turning-off-on-intel-i915.html which did not correct the issue.
[19:55] <neredsenvy> Ok so i was working nothing special when my external monitor shuts down and laptop screen zooms way in. I reboot and now i get no scaling no external screen. Running xrandr i dont get eDP1 or HDMI1 anymore I do get an gamma size error for screen 0.
[19:55] <neredsenvy> Anyone familiar with this ?
[19:57] <maasstyle> how open a file with full permission
[19:57] <Aussprech> maasstyle, sudo
[19:57] <Aussprech> in terminal
[19:57] <maasstyle> oh oh thank you
[19:59] <maasstyle> when i type this in the terminal "gksudo gedit etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf" after i edit this file i cant save it..
[20:00] <maasstyle> to disable the guest account in ubuntu
[20:01] <neredsenvy> anyone ?
[20:02] <maasstyle> using ubuntu is it ture that we can hack into wifi
[20:02] <maasstyle> using ubuntu is it ture that we can hack into wifi  'yes' or 'no'.
[20:03] <k1l_> maasstyle: we dont support that here.
[20:03] <neredsenvy> This is why Linux will never even remotely come close to Windows/OSX cuss Desktop experience ia utter garbage
[20:03] <maasstyle> when i type this in the terminal "gksudo gedit etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf" after i edit this file i cant save it..
[20:04] <Owl_> neredsenvy, depends on the user and the distribution.
[20:04] <Owl_> neredsenvy, its not bad. Its different.
[20:04] <thepiercingarrow> What is LVM and should I do it? (at the partitioning step right now)
[20:04] <Owl_> wtf why did my nickname changed D:
[20:04] <k1l_> maasstyle: missing starting / at /etc/lightdm....
[20:05] <thepiercingarrow> Owl_: do /msg nickserv regain Owl <password>
[20:05] <k1l_> thepiercingarrow: it adds another level of comeplexity. most users are fine without lvm
[20:05] <thepiercingarrow> k1l_: what does it do though?
[20:05] <Owl_> -NickServ- You can not regain your nickname while banned or quieted on a channel.
[20:05] <Owl_> lol
[20:05] <k1l_> !lvm | thepiercingarrow
[20:05] <Owl_> I was "Aussprech"
[20:05] <thepiercingarrow> Owl_: you were banned?
[20:05] <Owl_> some minutes ago
[20:05] <neredsenvy> Owl_ Linux is good for servers for desktop its utter garbage
[20:05] <thepiercingarrow> k1l_: awesome thanks
[20:05] <maasstyle> thanks k1l..
[20:06] <thepiercingarrow> Owl_: what?? o hai aussie. why banned??
[20:06] <neredsenvy> across all platforms
[20:06] <k1l_> neredsenvy: can we stop that pointless rants? thanks
[20:06] <Owl_> I dont know oO
[20:06] <thepiercingarrow> o.O
[20:06] <thepiercingarrow> Um, I don't get to pick my fs type?
[20:06] <thepiercingarrow> I wanna ext4!!
[20:06] <lordcirth> thepiercingarrow, yes, you do.
[20:07] <thepiercingarrow> o
[20:07] <thepiercingarrow> nvm
[20:07] <lordcirth> However, I think ext4 is also the default for auto.
[20:07] <k1l_> thepiercingarrow: ext4 is the standard filesystem for ubuntu. so i guess that it will be ext4 if it doesnt name it specificly
[20:07] <thepiercingarrow> k1l_: awesome thanks!
[20:09] <neredsenvy> Is it possible to reconfigure xrandr ?
[20:10] <laszlowaty> ouc
[20:10] <neredsenvy> lol even my mouse stoped working
[20:11] <thepiercingarrow> Um
[20:11] <thepiercingarrow> what if I don't want swap?
[20:11] <thepiercingarrow> Swap is for people under 1G ram
[20:11] <thepiercingarrow> i have 1G ram
[20:11] <yorwos> i manually installed the new version of qjackctl , but apt-get upgrade insists of "upgrading" it from my repositories ,how can i disable it ?
[20:11] <thepiercingarrow> I don't get to disable swap??
[20:12] <thepiercingarrow> whatever i guess it doesnt matter..
[20:12] <thepiercingarrow> holy fuck WHAT THE FUCK just happened
[20:12] <lordcirth> thepiercingarrow, so don't make swap?
[20:12] <thepiercingarrow> WTF is irccould.com
[20:12] <thepiercingarrow> they are flooding the channel
[20:12] <lordcirth> thepiercingarrow, just a netsplit
[20:12] <thepiercingarrow> WHAT THE FUCK STOP IT
[20:12] <thepiercingarrow> whats a netsplit?
[20:12] <lordcirth> thepiercingarrow, Freenode is a network of many IRC servers.  If two servers disconnect, the channel fragments.
[20:13] <lordcirth> Thus everyone on the other server is seen to leave, and then rejoin.
[20:13] <thepiercingarrow> ohhh
[20:13] <thepiercingarrow> why is it happening so much today?
[20:13] <k1l_> !netsplit | thepiercingarrow
[20:14] <thepiercingarrow> k1l_: is it possible to disable/ignore messages involving users leaving/joining?
[20:14] <lordcirth> thepiercingarrow, yes, most IRC clients have settings for that.
[20:15] <thepiercingarrow> awww okay
[20:15] <k1l_> !quietirc | thepiercingarrow
[20:15] <thepiercingarrow> haha xkcd
[20:15] <neredsenvy> lol ubuntu update intead of update is destroys your system
[20:16] <neredsenvy> N
[20:17] <neredsenvy> Starts do you want to update, Yes. First you lose screen settings, mouse, keyboard now package manager.
[20:17] <k1l_> neredsenvy: last time now: for rantings use your own blog. we are here to help user solving issues.
[20:18] <thepiercingarrow> um restarting
[20:18] <thepiercingarrow> brb
[20:18] <hetii> HI
[20:18] <hetii> :)
[20:18] <neredsenvy> maybe you can help me why does a official update fuck up the os completely
[20:18] <hetii> What I can use to stream my desktop to my lan via rtp/udp or http ?
[20:19] <k1l_> neredsenvy: to me it seems more that karma strikes back
[20:19] <hetii> i prefer not vlc solution
[20:20] <nicomach1s> hetii: would plex would for that?
[20:20] <msev-> can you guys help me with this error: [jack.c:252] error: Failed to open jack client: 0x1
[20:20] <msev-> [jack.c:58] warning: FIXME: One needs to wait or write some silence here to prevent the last bits of audio to vanish out of the ringbuffer.
[20:20] <msev-> its from a python script
[20:20] <nicomach1s> s/would/work/
[20:20] <nicomach1s> msev-: check with the guys in #python
[20:21] <k1l_> neredsenvy: with actual error messages, logs and proper issue description people might help. but not user who just rant with insulting language
[20:21] <k1l_> msev-: just a guess: is jack server running?
[20:21] <msev-> i think no
[20:21] <msev-> how can i check that
[20:22] <msev-> also i don't need jack i think :D
[20:22] <k1l_> msev-: well, that message you showed made me think you need jack. or that script wants jack
[20:22] <msev-> it shouldn't since it calls mpg123
[20:25] <hetii> nicolas_: plex ?
[20:25] <hetii> hmm need to check that
[20:26] <Genbu> hello. at boot i've the following error. http://paste.ubuntu.com/23138625/ it is a skystar 2 dvb card. how can i fix? Have i to complile v4l-dvb?
[20:27] <hetii> nicolas_: general I  try to find a way to stream my desktop over dlna to my tv
[20:27] <diverdude> when a new version of ubuntu comes out, are all packages in repo then manually repackaged?
[20:28] <k1l_> Genbu: some people report their cards working even they have the same error
[20:28] <bekks> diverdude: That happens automatically for the most of the far more of 30.000 packages.
[20:29] <Genbu> ah ok thanks
[20:29] <diverdude> bekks, ok....is that because no changes needs to be made on packages when ubuntu is upgrades...just some metadata ?
[20:29] <bekks> diverdude: Yes.
[20:30] <diverdude> bekks, when will python 3 be system default in ubuntu ?
[20:30] <bekks> diverdude: I dont know.
[20:30] <nicomachus> hetii: I've not used Plex, but it sounds like it would work in your case.
[20:30] <diverdude> bekks, can you find out please
[20:31] <bekks> diverdude: It's the same effort for me as for you.
[20:31] <diverdude> bekks, but i dont know how to find it
[20:31] <hggdh> diverdude: as soon as all dependent packages are upgraded to p3. Still has not happened on yakkety, though
[20:31] <bekks> diverdude: You see, its the same effort for me as for you :)
[20:31] <hggdh> (but may still happen)
[20:31] <diverdude> hggdh, what is yakkety?
[20:32] <nicomachus> !yakkety | diverdude
[20:32] <hggdh> diverdude: soon-to-be Ubuntu 16.10
[20:33] <diverdude> hggdh, ok so some dependent packages are still missing?
[20:33] <hggdh> diverdude: yes.
[20:33] <diverdude> hggdh, i see, how many?
[20:35] <hggdh> diverdude: apt-cache rdepends python will show all.
[20:35] <Bashing-om> diverdude: Do in terminal ' dpkg -l python* ' You see several versions installed . Now it will never happen that everyone builds thier packages on the same version ( 3rd party ) and we must manintain compatibility with older builds .
[20:37] <diverdude> hggdh, but that command also show python3 packages i think
[20:37] <diverdude> hggdh, so its not showing missing
[20:38] <hggdh> diverdude: yes. It is now an user exercise to weed out the incorrect references. But the command shows all packages that depend on python version 2
[20:39] <aguitel> in #galliumos
[20:40] <goldrak> What application can i use to clone a machine and then duplicated to 50 PC's , using PXE or any other tool
[20:40] <diverdude> hggdh, how do i weed that out?
[20:40] <goldrak> any idea ?
[20:41] <hggdh> diverdude: additionally, packages that depend on python version 3 will have a declared dependency for python3 (note the digit at the end)
[20:42] <xkpe> is there a way to setup raid0 on a clean ubuntu install? I'm installing with a CD that has 16.04
[20:45] <neredsenvy> is there a way to revert last update ?
[20:46] <xinme> hello, how do i remove old kernels? autoremove command doesn't work
[20:46] <ducasse> neredsenvy: no, apt is not designed for rollbacks. btrfs snapshots is an option, though.
[20:46] <Bashing-om> xkpe: The standard desktop install does not include the server raid tools . You will have to install them . apt show mdadm
[20:46] <k1l_> xinme: what ubuntu version are you on?
[20:47] <PCdude> I get the following error
[20:47] <PCdude> http://imgur.com/a/Z47K1
[20:47] <thepiercingarrow> hai
[20:47] <thepiercingarrow> I'm at the point where it says "software selection"
[20:47] <PCdude> any idea on how to solve it?
[20:48] <thepiercingarrow> I want the standard applications (gcc, make, mount, sudo, etc.)
[20:48] <xinme> k1l_: 14.04 with 4.4.0-36-generc
[20:48] <thepiercingarrow> which one should I select?
[20:48] <thepiercingarrow> Would that be in core, or do I need "standard system utilities" ?
[20:48] <neredsenvy> Never ever again linux
[20:48] <thepiercingarrow> what?
[20:48] <k1l_> xinme: ok. autoremove removes older kernels since 16.04
[20:48] <ducasse> neredsenvy: stop whining.
[20:49] <xinme> k1l_:  do i have to go through synaptic and manually select everything?
[20:49] <hggdh> neredsenvy: you can look at which packages were updated on last run on /var/log/apt/term.log, and (by hand) build up an apt-get for the previous versions (or, use dpkg -i)
[20:49] <faryshta> how can i install mysql-workbench and mysql-5.6 in ubuntu 14.04?
[20:50] <andy> i want to copy a file from my pc to my lunbutu laptop
[20:50] <k1l_> xinme: yes. or you use a short bash script
[20:50] <faryshta> i tried the obvious answer but mysql-worbench depends on mysql-client which is synonym of mysql-client-5.5
[20:50] <andy> what format of my external hard drive should it be?
[20:50] <k1l_> xinme: "echo $(dpkg --list | grep linux-image | awk '{ print $2 }' | sort -V | sed -n '/'`uname -r`'/q;p') $(dpkg --list | grep linux-headers | awk '{ print $2 }' | sort -V | sed -n '/'"$(uname -r | sed "s/\([0-9.-]*\)-\([^0-9]\+\)/\1/")"'/q;p') | xargs sudo apt-get -y purge"
[20:50] <xinme> dpkg -l 'linux-*' | sed  '/^ii/!d;/'"$(uname -r | sed "s/\(.*\)-\([^0-9]\+\)/\1/")"'/d;s/^[^ ]*  [^ ]* \([^ ]*\).*/\1/;/[0-9]/!d' | xargs sudo apt-get -y purge
[20:50] <andy> i have exfat format right now and it's not working
[20:51] <neredsenvy> Fuck this community and fuck this garbage os and te entire linux family.. Fucking garbage. Good night, take care.
[20:51] <_44trent> so i'm trying to run minecraft but every time i launch it, it gives me this error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23138717/
[20:51] <Bashing-om> andy: " my pc ' is what operating system ?
[20:51] <_44trent> I've tried sudo update-ca-certificates -f and tried reinstalling the java ca certificates, but it didn't work
[20:51] <andy> windows 10
[20:52] <Bashing-om> andy: Windows 10 best asked in the #windows channel ?
[20:52] <lordcirth> _44trent, have you tried " mozroots --import --ask-remove " ?
[20:52] <_44trent> no, i'll try that
[20:52] <_44trent> what does it do?
[20:53] <lordcirth> _44trent, it gets Mozilla's list of trusted certs and installs them
[20:53] <_44trent> ok
[20:53] <lordcirth> I know CKAN requires that when it gets a similar error
[20:53] <_44trent> still getting the same error
[20:53] <andy> my question is not about windows 10. my question is what format should my external hard drive be if i want to transfer file from my windows 10 to my lubuntu
[20:54] <_44trent> i do have a java certificate store in /etc/ssl/certs/java
[20:54] <_44trent> i'm confused
[20:55] <lordcirth> _44trent, you might want to look for Minecraft- specific help
[20:55] <faryshta> how can i install mysql-workbench and mysql-5.6 in ubuntu 14.04?
[20:55] <faryshta> i tried the obvious answer but mysql-worbench depends on mysql-client which is synonym of mysql-client-5.5
[20:55] <xinme> k1l_: thanks, bye
[20:55] <_44trent> but i'm pretty sure I have java certificate issues, not just specific to minecraft
[20:56] <_44trent> i don't think my openjdk can use ssl at all
[20:56] <_44trent> this would affect all java programs so i figured going here would be the best bet, i mean i'll go ask on the irc channel for minecraft help, they probably know more about java stuff
[21:00] <GrapeNinja> SpeccyMan: hey
[21:00] <SpeccyMan> o/
[21:00] <GrapeNinja> haha
[21:00] <GrapeNinja> how are you?
[21:00] <GrapeNinja> obviously good
[21:00] <Bashing-om> andy: In this context .. copying files .. does not matter what the file system is . Files are just bits , and the bits get copied .
[21:01] <READINGFORTNIGHT> can anybody suggest me a good photo editing software in ubuntu
[21:01] <_44trent> gimp?
[21:02] <READINGFORTNIGHT> i want more like a defined set of transformations that can be applied to photo. something like flickr/instagram app on android
[21:02] <feneco> hi
[21:03] <feneco> i just used rm -rf in the wrong folder, is there any way to recover these files?
[21:03] <feneco> D:
[21:03] <feneco> and directories
[21:04] <thepiercingarrow> Thanks so much!!!!
[21:04] <thepiercingarrow> I finally got ubuntu installed
[21:04] <lordcirth> feneco, extundelete
[21:04] <Bashing-om> feneco: Hard row to hoe ! see : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery for a few options .
[21:04] <lordcirth> thepiercingarrow, nice.  Back it up :P
[21:04] <thepiercingarrow> Back it up?
[21:05] <faryshta> how can i install mysql-workbench and mysql-5.6 in ubuntu 14.04?
[21:05] <faryshta> i tried the obvious answer but mysql-worbench depends on mysql-client which is synonym of mysql-client-5.5
[21:05] <k1l_> feneco: only extundelete or photorec can help now. but not with 100% chance
[21:05] <feneco> I just rm -rf lots of stuff on my home folder D:
[21:06] <feneco> afraid to restart the machine
[21:07] <mattysmart> im tryingto run sudo apt-get update , but its getting stuck on 0% connect to
[21:07] <mattysmart> Im using amazon aws ec2 instance
[21:07] <mattysmart> any ideas why this is
[21:07] <mattysmart> my security group does have outbound to 0.0.0.0/0
[21:07] <READINGFORTNIGHT> does it have internet connectivity ?
[21:07] <mattysmart> Yes
[21:07] <mattysmart> when you say internet conectivity
[21:08] <lordcirth> mattysmart, can you ping google.com?
[21:08] <mattysmart> 2 secs
[21:08] <READINGFORTNIGHT> yeah
[21:08] <mattysmart> no its not pinging google
[21:09] <mattysmart> but on the security group assigned to the ex2 instance, our outbound traffic is set to 0.0.0.0.0
[21:09] <rikan> guys, can i ask someone for help?
[21:09] <lordcirth> !ask | rikan
[21:10] <faryshta> hi, how can i install mysql-workbench 6.1.7 on ubuntu 14.04 32bits?
[21:10] <_44trent> what's the default location of the openjdk certificates? think I figured out what the problem is, i just need to link the location
[21:10] <_44trent> and manually passing a flag to where the certs are actually stored is stupid
[21:10] <mattysmart> sudo apt-get install mysql-workbench
[21:11] <lordcirth> _44trent, " locate openjdk | grep cert " returns /usr/lib/jvm/java-8-openjdk-amd64/jre/lib/security/cacerts
[21:11] <mattysmart> faryshta ^
[21:11] <mattysmart> lordcirth , any idea buddy
[21:11] <_44trent> so that's probably where it is
[21:11] <feneco> $ pwd /home/jj/RECOVERED_FILES/home/jj/RECOVERED_FILES/home/jj/RECOVERED_FILES/home/jj/003
[21:11] <lordcirth> mattysmart, I think he wants the specific version
[21:11] <feneco> extundelete results lol
[21:11] <mattysmart> lordcirth , i meant with my issue hehe
[21:12] <lordcirth> mattysmart, you said you can't ping google?
[21:12] <rikan> i have a dual boot with ubuntu mate e windows 10. then, from ubuntu i installed a codec pack. after that in windows 10 headphones does no longer work, even if the system recognize them! does someone know something about that?
[21:12] <mattysmart> yepp, i cant
[21:12] <lordcirth> mattysmart, what happens?  Any error?  Silence?
[21:12] <_44trent> should "ln -s /etc/ssl/certs/java/cacerts /usr/lib/jvm/java-8-openjdk-amd64/jre/lib/security/cacerts" work?
[21:12] <mattysmart> just nothing
[21:12] <mattysmart> blank line
[21:12] <lordcirth> rikan, I don't see how that could be related.
[21:12] <mattysmart> looks like its not even trying
[21:12] <lordcirth> mattysmart, most likely packets are being silently dropped by some firewall.
[21:13] <lordcirth> Does your security group allow ICMP?
[21:13] <mattysmart> whats that
[21:13] <lordcirth> mattysmart, pings, mostly.
[21:13] <mattysmart> would i have had to have set that up in security group
[21:13] <READINGFORTNIGHT> mattysmart can you do wget google.com ?
[21:13] <lordcirth> As opposed to tcp/udp
[21:13] <faryshta> mattysmart, i tried the obvious answer but mysql-worbench depends on mysql-client which is synonym of mysql-client-5.5. I need mysql 5.6 for fulltext
[21:13] <rikan> please, can someone help me? i tryed everything :(
[21:13] <lordcirth> mattysmart, well, where did you get the security setup?  A template?
[21:14] <mattysmart> I created it
[21:14] <mattysmart> i set up ssh http https , following aws docs
[21:14] <lordcirth> mattysmart, well then you probably made a mistake.  Firewalls can be tricky.
[21:14] <faryshta> mattysmart, then i need workbench 6.1.7 which i can't find for ubuntu 14.04 32bits
[21:14] <lordcirth> rikan, I don't see how installing a codec could break your Windows sound.
[21:14] <mattysmart> Got it working now
[21:14] <mattysmart> sorry faryshta i dont know
[21:14] <lordcirth> mattysmart, oh?
[21:14] <mattysmart> google search might get it ?
[21:14] <faryshta> mattysmart, http://bugs.mysql.com/bug.php?id=72729
[21:15] <mattysmart> Yes :)
[21:15] <rikan> mee too! really weird.. maybe just a coincidence?
[21:15] <lordcirth> No, clearly I am magic.
[21:15] <mattysmart> clearly :P
[21:23] <faryshta> hi, how can i install mysql-workbench 6.1.7 on ubuntu 14.04 32bits?
[21:24] <k1l_> faryshta: find a ppa for that or compile a package on your own.
[21:25] <k1l_> !info mysql-workbench trusty
[21:29] <lordcirth>  !info mysql-workbench xenial
[21:30] <lordcirth> faryshta, are you sure you can't just update to 16.04?
[21:30] <LordJesus> No, Mark, he isn't.
[21:30] <faryshta> lordcirth, i think that would take me longer. i am using 14.04 and i would ned to do 4 dist-upgrades
[21:30] <LordJesus> wtf.
[21:30] <LordJesus> GONE.
[21:30] <LordJesus> but cute.
[21:31] <lordcirth> LordJesus, wrong chat?
[21:31] <LordJesus> No, not really. Speak for yourself.
[21:31] <Zanzibar1982> hi everyone. can I ask for a bit of ubuntu support here?
[21:31] <lordcirth> faryshta, or reinstall, depending on how much you have set up.
[21:31] <LordJesus> uh this is a support channel genius
[21:32] <LordJesus> ask the question
[21:32] <lordcirth> !ask | Zanzibar1982
[21:32] <lordcirth> LordJesus, no need to be rude
[21:32] <faryshta> lordcirth, yup, i think thats not the best approach at the moment. i am seeking if ther is any repo with that version of workbench
[21:34] <_44trent> So I realized what the problem was and also realized I am a moron
[21:34] <_44trent> i got bored and compiled openjdk from source, and did make install after it compiled
[21:34] <_44trent> ...and because of this, I cannot remove it with apt
[21:34] <_44trent> *facepalm*
[21:34] <lordcirth> _44trent, that would do it
[21:34] <lordcirth> make install often makes a mess.
[21:35] <_44trent> guess it's time to look at the makefile to see where the heck it installed to
[21:35] <_44trent> and not compile from source unless it's absolutely nessecarry and not because i was "bored"
[21:35] <k1l_> _44trent: use checkinstall which makes a package in future
[21:36] <_44trent> duly noted
[21:36] <Zanzibar1982> sorry, just trying to be kind. lordcirth thanks, but it didn't feel rude. I am on Ubuntu 16.04 x64, what I want to do is set up a psx emulator's plugins in order to load shaders, but I get "//libgpuPeteXGL2.so.2.0.9: classe ELF errata: ELFCLASS32"
[21:37] <Zanzibar1982> I know it's because i'm trying to run i386 software on x64, but I've read around ubuntu 16 should be able to
[21:38] <lordcirth> Zanzibar1982, you can, you probably just need to install some stuff
[21:39] <Zanzibar1982> lordcirth "how to" 's around are outdated (ubuntu 12)
[21:39] <Zanzibar1982> any hint?
[21:39] <tanja_> I have a issue. I'm in the middle of upgrading a old server but getting the errors like this "W: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/wily/main/binary-amd64/Packages  404  Not Found"
[21:40] <tanja_> but when I test the address in my browser then the file is there on that mirror
[21:40] <_44trent> i can't figure where it installed...why did I do that!
[21:40] <lordcirth> _44trent, use "locate" and "which"
[21:41] <_44trent> aha, /usr/local/jvm
[21:41] <lordcirth> Zanzibar1982, so, you've installed the pcsxr package, and you're trying to load plugins?
[21:42] <_44trent> hopefully nothing breaks when I delete it...
[21:44] <Zanzibar1982> lordcirth I'm trying with both epsxe and pcsxr, the second one running overall better than epsxe, what I want to do is change video plugin so that I can load shaders
[21:44] <_44trent> well lesson learned
[21:44] <_44trent> if I still get ca certificate problems I am literally going to reinstall
[21:45] <tanja_> does anyone have a idea of how to fix my issue
[21:45] <lordcirth> Zanzibar1982, I can't find much online either.
[21:45] <Zanzibar1982> the error "//libgpuPeteXGL2.so.2.0.9: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32"  came by epsxe crashing trying to select video plugin
[21:45] <_44trent> woohoo it works
[21:45] <lordcirth> tanja_, have you tried changing mirrors?
[21:45] <tanja_> lordcirth the files are on the mirror
[21:46] <xangua> Zanzibar1982: why can't you just use opengl plugin?
[21:46] <tanja_> lordcirth if you look here http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/wily/main/binary-amd64/
[21:46] <tanja_> lordcirth but yes I have
[21:46] <xangua> Also I don't know what exactly makes Ubuntu different to run 32 bit programs on 64 bit
[21:46] <xangua> S/different/special
[21:47] <Bashing-om> tanja_: Maybe if we see all in context sudo apt update 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 9999"
[21:47] <Bashing-om> "sudo apt upgrade 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 9999
[21:47] <lordcirth> xangua, it's not special.  You just need to install all dependencies with 32bit versions, like for wine or steam
[21:47] <neuville> hello guys
[21:47] <lordcirth> hi
[21:47] <tanja_> Bashing-om will try 2 sec
[21:48] <Zanzibar1982> yep  lordcirth, looks like i'm the only one who's ever tried to make look better psx games on ubuntu. @xangua I need to load a video (opengl) plugin that allows selection of shader to apply to games
[21:48] <neuville> well, i made custom ubuntu com software basics, and install works legacy bios perfecly, but uefi error, "grub-efi failed" pool directory problem
[21:49] <xangua> Zanzibar1982: I've personally never needed to make a game look better, but what game?
[21:49] <tanja_> Bashing-om http://termbin.com/j54w but shoud I use apt-get instead?
[21:49] <musehcl74> How to optimize Tesla GPU for python
[21:49] <neuville> search about it, and uck 2.4.7 wont work offline pool install :/
[21:50] <Bashing-om> tanja_: Look'n .. nope //apt is the new improved apt-get .
[21:50] <neuville> anyonde can fix offline install pool directory?
[21:50] <tanja_> Bashing-om: well look at the output then
[21:51] <tanja_> Bashing-om: and anyway the nc is not sending all the output for some reason
[21:51] <Zanzibar1982> xangua I'd like to apply a "cartoon" shader to some games like metal gear solid, crash bandicoot and winning eleven. Not really trying to improve, more like just having a different look.
[21:51] <Bashing-om> tanja_: Mine : http://termbin.com/eidc ' give it time to complete .
[21:52] <tanja_> it did complete it went back to command promt
[21:53] <tanja_> but remember its a older server as stated that I'm trying to upgrade up
[21:54] <Bashing-om> tanja_: K .. maybe apt is too new .. sure try apt-get, see what results ??
[21:55] <tanja_> http://termbin.com/p6k0 but sadly that is not all the output
[21:55] <tanja_> because tried to run it now without the pipe and there were way more output
[21:55] <Zanzibar1982> xangua https://youtu.be/baE312QM5R0
[21:56] <Bashing-om> tanja_: Ya got the better of me . I do not know what is not going on :)
[21:57] <tanja_> I guess the server then is toasted :( including the zfs archive
[21:58] <PCdude> my openstack intall hangs
[21:58] <PCdude> http://imgur.com/a/Z47K1
[21:59] <PCdude> right when that message appears at the botton nothing changes anymore
[21:59] <PCdude> any idea?
[21:59] <Bashing-om> tanja_: I sure hope not ! .. There are others here with much greater knowledge/experience than I . Wait and see what others here advise .
[21:59] <tanja_> Bashing-om: sadly no one is advising anything here to me and have never done
[22:00] <tanja_> btw here is a pastbin of the apt-update ( piped to a txt document and copied )
[22:00] <tanja_> http://pastebin.com/qAZCM3P8
[22:00] <Bashing-om> tanja_: Look'n .
[22:03] <szb> tanja_: without knowing your problem, let me take a wild guess. You can't update or install anything? That's because you seem to be on Wily Werewolf (15.10) and that has reached end of life, so all the repos are down, because Ubuntu doesn't support them anymore!
[22:03] <Bashing-om> tanja_: Ouch .. not seeing any of the repos ? .. might be good to just look at the sources ' cat -n /etc/apt/sources.list ; tail -v -n +1 /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* ' . See what we might see .
[22:04] <tanja_> Bashing-om but the repo is there
[22:05] <tanja_> Bashing-om if you look here http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/ witch also is the mirror that I use
[22:05] <Bashing-om> tanja_: Just real odd that you can not get a return from any of the sub sets !
[22:07] <MrRJV> Hi is there someone here that has written LPI Linux Essentials?
[22:09] <tanja_> Bashing-om: here http://pastebin.com/JeXi72xp
[22:11] <tanja_> but yeah I'm actually worried because after the first upgrade then ubuntu wont show my zfs pool anymore
[22:11] <Zanzibar1982> I'd try running the emulator under wine, but I've never been able to get the gamepad working
[22:13] <tanja_> Bashing-om btw trying to reboot the server soon because it almost cant be worse then atm
[22:23] <pingwindyktator> Hello. I want to install ubuntu with physical encryption volume and I;ve got some questions
[22:23] <tanja_> Bashing-om: some of the reason is maybe found atm because I were directly on the server and noticed a proxy that I now deactivated
[22:24] <pingwindyktator> first of all - I've got 2 ssds, I want to place ubuntu to /dev/sdb. Will /dev/sda be erased with such encryption?
[22:26] <pingwindyktator> and second question - how much space should I reserve for encryption partition?
[22:27] <Zanzibar1982> i'll try mednafen
[22:27] <lordcirth> pingwindyktator, why would sda be erased if you encrypt sdb?
[22:27] <tonberry-king> Does the alternative installer give the opt too instal with root access still ?
[22:28] <pingwindyktator> lordcirth: that;s good question, but I want to be sure
[22:28] <lordcirth> pingwindyktator, if you do the guided install with encryption, and give it all of sdb, that's what it will use.  Only question is which drive you want the bootloader on.
[22:28] <lordcirth> Just make sure you get the right one :P
[22:29] <pingwindyktator> right one is /dev/sdb (with ubuntu), true?
[22:29] <lordcirth> pingwindyktator, always look at the drive contents to be sure it's the one you want.
[22:30] <lordcirth> Or if they are different sizes, or somethin
[22:30] <pingwindyktator> I know exactly. It's 500gb and 250gb
[22:30] <pingwindyktator> so where sould I place bootloader?
[22:30] <lordcirth> pingwindyktator, whichever drive you want to be first in boot order.
[22:31] <lordcirth> pingwindyktator, what's on sda?  Windows?  data?
[22:31] <pingwindyktator> windows
[22:31] <tonberry-king> I would put the boot loader on sdb and use hot keys to load second drive thourgh bios
[22:32] <lordcirth> pingwindyktator, well, then if you install grub to sda, it will replace bootmgr, and your current BIOS settings will work.  If you install to sda, you'll need to change BIOS, but you'll have bootmgr intact jsut in cas
[22:32] <lordcirth> *just in case
[22:32] <pingwindyktator> you said /dev/sda twice ;D
[22:32] <pingwindyktator> and tbh I dont like bootmgr, I'll go with grub2
[22:32] <lordcirth> So I did
[22:33] <lordcirth> I meant sda, then sdb
[22:33] <pingwindyktator> I dont understand 'need to change bios'. why?
[22:33] <tonberry-king> EFI ?
[22:34] <pingwindyktator> there's uefi now, yup
[22:34] <pingwindyktator> but ubuntu supports uefi
[22:34] <tonberry-king> Fair but what happens by using grub as the sole bootmgr it has to know where the encrypted drive is
[22:35] <pingwindyktator> right, it makes sense
[22:35] <tonberry-king> If you put it on sda you will have to make the right settings
[22:35] <pingwindyktator> so the better solution is to place bootloader where bootmgs is now
[22:35] <pingwindyktator> right?
[22:35] <lordcirth> pingwindyktator, that is the simplest
[22:36] <tonberry-king> By simply putting it on the ubuntu sdb grub will know automaticaly where the LUKs partition is
[22:36] <lordcirth> tonberry-king, it should know regardless of drive, it uses UUIDs
[22:36] <tonberry-king> ok
[22:36] <pingwindyktator> okay. installation gui says that bootmgs is on /dev/sda2, to I'll place there grub
[22:37] <lordcirth> pingwindyktator, no!
[22:37] <pingwindyktator> wut
[22:37] <lordcirth> pingwindyktator, /dev/sda, not a partition!
[22:37] <pingwindyktator> uh
[22:37] <lordcirth> sda is the drive, sda2 is the partition
[22:37] <lordcirth> if you install grub to sda2, you'll break the filesystem
[22:38] <tonberry-king> lordcirth: Sorry for butting in ill leave this too you
[22:38] <lordcirth> tonberry-king, no problem
[22:38] <pingwindyktator> I'm realizing I dont know much about it regardless I;m using ubuntu since i can remember..
[22:38] <pingwindyktator> but okay, dev/sad
[22:38] <pingwindyktator> what about size of encryption partition?
[22:39] <lordcirth> pingwindyktator, Are you doing manual or guided?
[22:39] <pingwindyktator> manual
[22:40] <rikan> @pingwindyktator just trying if i can tag
[22:40] <rikan> no
[22:40] <rikan> lel
[22:40] <lordcirth> pingwindyktator, ah ok.  Well, the usual way (that guided does) is to put an LVM PV inside the encrypted LUKS volume, so you can have multiple partitions inside
[22:42] <pingwindyktator> hm, so the "casual" partiotion like /home or / will be visible there like a "subpartition" of encrypted one, right?
[22:42] <Bashing-om> tanja_: guys; is the wily repo still on-line ? Or is it now moved to old-releases ?
[22:42] <pingwindyktator> honestly, I didnt encrypt like this before
[22:42] <lordcirth> !lvm
[22:43] <lordcirth> pingwindyktator, tl;dr, you make a small (500MB) partition for /boot.  Then you make the rest a LUKS.
[22:43] <lordcirth> You put LVM inside it, and make /, /home, swap, whatever you want.
[22:44] <tanja_> Bashing-om its still live and not moved but dont know if you saw my responce to you
[22:45] <tanja_> Bashing-om: some of the reason is maybe found atm because I were directly on the server and noticed a proxy that I now deactivated and apt-get is running now
[22:46] <pingwindyktator> lordcirth: can you say how to make rest disk lusk? I haev to choose "physical volume for encryption"?
[22:47] <Bashing-om> tanja_: Yeah, I am caught up . zfs os out of my depth . for now .. we sure need to know that rhge system is updated and current on wily . Got to get ' sudo apt-get update ' to complete .
[22:48] <lordcirth> pingwindyktator, yeah, that makes the encrypted (LUKS) partition
[22:49] <tanja_> it did apd have upgraded apt manually because it helt that package back, and have now started the release upgrade now
[22:50] <pingwindyktator> lordcirth: and if I want to separate / from /home I have to create 2 LUKS partiotions, right?
[22:50] <pingwindyktator> and then mount it appropriately
[22:50] <Bashing-om> tanja_: 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' ? maybe with the -s flag to see what it will do ?
[22:51] <lordcirth> pingwindyktator, no, that's the point of doing LVM, if you put LVM inside LUKS, then you can put as many partitions as you want in it
[22:52] <pingwindyktator> hm
[22:52] <tanja_> I run the do-release-upgrade because it informed me about that in the login header
[22:53] <Disaster_Area> hey. I'm still struggling w/ some of the basics of Ubuntu. Can someone help me download TeXWorks?
[22:53] <tanja_> Bashing-om: this one https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/installing-upgrading.html
[22:53] <agent-12> yolo swagginz
[22:54] <agent-12> hey scrubz
[22:55] <user1234> Where can I see statistics on how many people have installed Ubuntu or are updating their Ubuntu (installing security updates)? Is there no such website?
[22:57] <popopo> user1234: even google isn't smart enough for tat request
[22:59] <Bashing-om> tanja_: Verify . ' grep Prompt= /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades ' what you have set to upgrade to .
[23:01] <tanja_> its in the middle of upgrading and it looks like its upgrading to xenial. cant check files atm because its working on the hopefull upgrade atm
[23:01] <Bashing-om> tanja_: K.. then looks like all may be good .. fingers and toes crossed .
[23:02] <Zanzibar1982> I guess ubuntu is not intended for retro-gaming. I give up, goo back to win$, bye and thank you for your time and effort.
[23:03] <walo> hi..
[23:04] <Disaster_Area> fsr the software store is not working for me :x any ideas what's up
[23:04] <lordcirth> Disaster_Area, you'll need to be more specific
[23:04] <lordcirth> walo, hi
[23:05] <Disaster_Area> so the Ubuntu Software thing, when I click it from the Ubuntu menu or from the launcher, nothing really happens. It does the appear on the launcher / subtle change in colour in the background as if it were loading
[23:05] <Disaster_Area> and then nothing happens. if it's not pinned to launcher then it just disappears off of the launcher
[23:06] <lordcirth> Disaster_Area, what Ubuntu version?
[23:06] <Disaster_Area> 16.04
[23:06] <walo> I'm having problems with video playtback, all videos are too slow and can't find settings to fix it, any idea?
[23:08] <gajuith> Hi, is there anyone that is familiar with the i915 video driver issues with 16.04? I've attempted the fix at https://aboutsimon.com/blog/2016/07/20/Ubuntu-16.04-external-monitor-flickering-and-turning-off-on-intel-i915.html which failed to correct the issue.
[23:09] <lordcirth> Disaster_Area, run it from terminal 'software-center' and see if it prints any helpful messages
[23:09] <Disaster_Area> how do I do that? I've had ubuntu for a day or two I'm still not used to using the terminal
[23:09] <Disaster_Area> is it just typing
[23:09] <Disaster_Area> run 'software-center'
[23:09] <Disaster_Area> ?
[23:09] <Disaster_Area> ok no it's not; how do I do it?
[23:10] <lordcirth> Disaster_Area, just 'software-center' and enter
[23:10] <Disaster_Area> ok. says it's not installed
[23:11] <Disaster_Area> makes it bizarre that it's appearing in my menu when I click super
[23:11] <Disaster_Area> but at least this is a really easy fix
[23:11] <lordcirth> Disaster_Area, yup
[23:11] <walo> slow video playback? Anyone?
[23:11] <lordcirth> walo, jumpy or smoothly slow?
[23:12] <Disaster_Area> I thought more would be installed by default. I had a similar issue just the other day with flash player not being installed
[23:12] <walo> jumpy I think...
[23:12] <Disaster_Area> also i was having issues installing TeXWorks just a moment ago. But I want to look first to see if that's in the software center before I ask again for assistance
[23:13] <mmoonster> I installed Ubuntu on a USB drive and may have forgotten to set it to put the bootloader on the USB too. Trying to figure out how to restore my main machine's grub setup. Unfortunately it has fully encrypted partitions on two disks.
[23:14] <lordcirth> mmoonster, boot-repair may help, but I'm not sure if it will handle multiple LUKS partitions correctly.
[23:15] <lordcirth> Disaster_Area, software-center is supposed to be installed.  I'm not sure why it's not on your system.
[23:15] <mmoonster> lordcirth, yes, i tried that and it didn't help. the LUKS stuff doesn't seem to play nice with boot-repair.
[23:18] <lordcirth> mmoonster, well, you can also boot a livecd/usb, unlock your root partition, chroot in, and install grub again from there.
[23:18] <Disaster_Area> also a weird issue i have
[23:18] <Disaster_Area> I have the desktop pinned to my launcher
[23:18] <Disaster_Area> and I can't unpin it
[23:19] <Disaster_Area> :x
[23:19] <Disaster_Area> *unlock
[23:20] <lordcirth> Disaster_Area, the desktop what?
[23:20] <lordcirth> The workspace switcher?
[23:21] <Disaster_Area> 'Show Desktop'
[23:21] <Disaster_Area> is locked to the launcher
[23:21] <Disaster_Area> and I can't unlock it
[23:21] <Disaster_Area> nothing pops up for it when I right click on it
[23:21] <mmoonster> lordcirth, yes, that's what I'm looking into. Do you know why some resources have you reinstall GRUB without chrooting and some do? I'm trying to understand why that is.
[23:23] <lordcirth> mmoonster, well, you can also rewrite the grub config yourself, if you prefer.  I'm not aware of a 3rd method.
[23:29] <YankDownUnder> Re@LBye2015
[23:29] <YankDownUnder> Egads I'm an idiot...
[23:29] <Disaster_Area> thoughts on Discord? It's not in the software store, and I don't see an official release for it on their site but it seems there's a version of it you can DL which was being discussed on reddit.
[23:30] <Disaster_Area> I really thought they would have ubuntu support :x
[23:31] <lordcirth> Disaster_Area, there is a Linux beta
[23:31] <Disaster_Area> how well does it work?
[23:31] <Disaster_Area> + how do I download it?
[23:32] <Disaster_Area> is there a link or is there something I can type in terminal for it?
[23:32] <Bashing-om> YankDownUnder: "  Egads I'm an idiot... " >>> I have not seen the evidence of it :)
[23:32] <BrianAllred> Say I want to run an xrandr command on boot for all users all the time. Make it a permanent part of the OS, basically. How would I go about doing that? Google gets me as far as setting it automatically for an individual user, but that's not what I want.
[23:33] <lordcirth> Disaster_Area, there's a link here, but I don't know if it's latest, 3 months ago:  https://www.reddit.com/r/discordapp/comments/4m35yu/discord_for_linux_ubuntu/
[23:33] <lordcirth> Disaster_Area, there's also the browser version
[23:33] <Disaster_Area> yeah that's all I could see
[23:33] <Disaster_Area> yea has to be said at least browser version of discord seems better than browser version of skype. Might as well try downloading the beta tho
[23:41] <YankDownUnder> Bashing-om: I started to type out my "screenlock" password without actually looking at the monitors...must be Monday again...
[23:41] <maarlee> lowdledsa
[23:41] <maarlee> df
[23:41] <maarlee> vg
[23:41] <maarlee> bdfas
[23:41] <maarlee> fgv
[23:41] <maarlee> bhjh
[23:43] <Bashing-om> YankDownUnder: Oh shoot, that ain't nothing . Just not too well versed myself at multi-tasking . Many irons in several fires and bound to get somewhat scatter-brained .
[23:44] <YankDownUnder> Bashing-om: Yeppers...and yesterday I "accidentally" deleted a VM (had a live backup, but hey, it was five minutes of downtime) :)
[23:47] <Bashing-om> YankDownUnder: Try pulling the operating system hard drive . and spamming the log files to crash your server .. now that will make your morning where even coffee will not fix it .
[23:48] <YankDownUnder> Bashing-om: Egads...nah...I'll be happy with today's mistake...ha...yeah...must be time for a donut...
[23:51] <ubuntu-mate> Hi I'm trying to setup and ad-hoc wifi connection in ubuntu-mate, my connection info says it's there but I'm not seeing it from my phone
[23:52] <energizer> I can't install anything. I try and it says unmet dependencies, try apt-get -f install, which doesnt work either
[23:53] <energizer> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23139290/
[23:53] <Bashing-om> energizer: Look'n .. ya give it what it wants and it will go away .
[23:54] <Bashing-om> energizer: " kde-telepathy-minimal " ya got some of Goggle's tools also installed ?
[23:55] <energizer> i tried installing kde, but that didnt work, same problem
[23:57] <energizer> Bashing-om: tried fixing it, http://paste.ubuntu.com/23139298/
[23:57] <energizer> but no
[23:57] <Bashing-om> !info vim-runtime
[23:57] <energizer> Bashing-om: honestly vim's just an example - as far as i can tell, i cant install anything
[23:59] <energizer> can't install ack-grep, aptitude, ...
[23:59] <Bashing-om> energizer: We get any hints ' sudo apt install kde-config-telepathy-accounts ' ? ( still bet a Google conflict )