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deadscionI have a work around. The apps are showing up in App finder (alt+F3)00:20
deadscionand running00:23
H2OThank You for creating such a powerful product. BETTER than pro-tools !14:52
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studio-user678hello17:14
studio-user678abuntu-studio no sound17:15
studio-user891anyone know how to fix the banshe music player on xenial xersus - studio?17:45
studio-user891It does not work it just sits there when you go to add music to it.17:45
studio-user891you have to kill the application.17:46
studio-user891although rythem box does work it will not shuffle songs.17:46
studio-user891Why would they release this with so many bugs?17:46
studio-user891I mean music playback is somethint that every computer does.17:47
studio-user891Is there actually anyon on here?17:47
* antto is not here17:50
anttoi don't use mine for music since i still use my other machine for that, and that one runs winXP17:51
anttothe ubuntustudio machine i have has built-in speaker into the case o_O so i can hear stuff from it17:52
anttoi don't have any mp3s there tho, i've only tried stuff like youtube and soundcloud17:52
anttobut i think i didn't have sound at first and had to mess around in the settings17:53
anttocheck your mixer settings and see if there are any volume meters, check if they move when they should17:54
anttoi can't tell if that's gonna be the same for you, since i am with ubuntustudio 16 but with lxde17:55
studio-user891it does have sound but applications do not work correctly18:00
studio-user891banshe and rythem box do not work.18:01
studio-user891banshe does not play any music only locks up.18:01
studio-user891rythem box plays but only one song at a time.18:01
studio-user891and it forgets previous session of adding the media. So you have to add all the media every time.18:02
studio-user891You know for a studio you thing these things would have all basic bugs removed from them before release.18:02
studio-user891Anyone here?18:03
sakrecoerstudio-user891: banshee and rythm box are not pre installed in ubuntu studio18:16
studio-user891Ok any idea why they would  not work on studio?18:17
sakrecoerstudio-user891: could it be that you have jack running, and the output of banshee in pavu controll is not set to play with the jack sink?18:17
OvenWerksstudio-user891: then perhaps banshe/rythembox have bugs.18:18
studio-user891i have not ever started jack18:19
sakrecoerstudio-user891: i personaly use parole for previews. But i did install audacious for playlists and my discographic library.18:19
OvenWerksstudio-user891: have you tried to startany application that does use jack by default?18:20
studio-user891audacious?18:20
sakrecoerstudio-user891: i just mention this because i know audacious works18:20
studio-user891ok well in volume control18:20
sakrecoerstudio-user891: http://audacious-media-player.org/18:20
OvenWerksmay jack applications start jack for you if you forgat to.18:20
sakrecoersudo apt install audacious18:20
studio-user891it is using built in audio control18:20
OvenWerksit?18:21
studio-user891analog audio control18:21
OvenWerkswhat is analog audio control? an appl;iaction?18:22
sakrecoerstudio-user891: yes, but if you have started a jack aware application it might have started jack for you... what happens if you reboot, and do nothing else but start banshee?18:22
studio-user891the applications are there both banshee and rythem box, but both still do not work.18:23
studio-user891installing audacious with the sudo now.18:23
sakrecoerbanshee has a mad amount of dependcies.18:23
OvenWerksdo you hear audio from firefox? like youtube or whatever?18:24
sakrecoeri didn't feel like installing it on this machine.18:24
sakrecoerrhythem box worked perfect here.18:25
studio-user891audacious is working now.18:26
studio-user891thanks sakrecoer18:26
sakrecoerstudio-user891: according to me, its the best player :)18:26
studio-user891very simple interface and playlist manager worked immediately18:27
sakrecoeryou can even add effects, i'm a big fan of playing stuff at 66%-75% pitchdown when i'm in cosy mode :D18:27
studio-user891lol18:27
studio-user891nice18:27
sakrecoerAND, conky can read its status ;)18:27
OvenWerkssakrecoer: parole has gotten a lot better too.... though I am not so sure about UI18:27
sakrecoerOvenWerks: parole is a great previewer!18:28
OvenWerksit has not too bad playlist managment now.18:28
sakrecoeropens so many formats. i sometimes miss having more information about videofiles with it, like FPS and bitrate18:28
OvenWerksright18:28
sakrecoerOvenWerks: yes, for playlists it is not the best18:28
OvenWerkssakrecoer: but good enough to always have music playing... either in order or scrambled.18:29
sakrecoerOvenWerks: absolutely :)18:29
OvenWerkseffects are what jack is for.18:29
sakrecoeri'm just very fond of the library management in audacious: does nothing fancypancy, just scanning to make it searchable from its GUI18:30
sakrecoeryeah, but to pitch down 66% jack is overkill :D18:30
sakrecoerits 2 clicks away in audacious, lol18:30
studio-user891well it is the only one that works18:30
OvenWerksis jack is running all the time anyway... why not use it.18:30
sakrecoertrue :)18:31
sakrecoeri could use audacious with jack :)18:31
studio-user891sorry only installed this the other day.18:31
studio-user891installed it dual boot with win1018:31
OvenWerksPA makes a great front end, but jack is a much better audio server.18:31
sakrecoerstudio-user891: don't be sorry :) but know that it can be many different parameters that hinders your rhythmbox or banshee from playing...18:32
sakrecoerstudio-user891: rhtyhmbox worked fine for me on ubuntustudio 16.0418:32
OvenWerkssakrecoer: I would be surprised if they do not default to PA for output.18:32
studio-user891yes i know that that is why i came here and sorry is just a term of reference.18:32
OvenWerkssakrecoer: everything desktop should basically default to PA as output.18:33
studio-user891how did you install the rythmbox?18:33
sakrecoerstudio-user891: sudo apt install rhythmbox18:33
studio-user891well i used the software control panel18:34
sakrecoerstudio-user891: hm.. should be the same, i think..18:34
OvenWerkssakrecoer: I see what you mean by depends in banshee18:35
sakrecoerOvenWerks: audacious defenitly defaults to pavu when installed with apt in ubuntu18:35
sakrecoeri mean... PA18:36
OvenWerks:)18:36
studio-user891well the sudo apt remove banshee seems to work fin.18:36
studio-user891fine18:36
OvenWerkssakrecoer: everything should default to either alsa (default device which PA creates), PA directly or jack18:37
studio-user891the install informed me that the latest version of banshee was already installed.18:37
OvenWerkssakrecoer: there are some applications out there that default to alsa hw0. That would be a bug.18:39
OvenWerks(and mean that they have likely not been maintained in some time and suffer from bitrot)18:39
studio-user891So question18:42
studio-user891is there any other applications in the software manager that do not install or work correctly when installed from software manager?18:42
studio-user891I mean i used a really old version of mint on a netbook that worked just fine. Why the hell would a new version of Ubuntu not work?18:43
sakrecoerstudio-user891: thats a hard question. they are supposed to work. and if they don't, please file a bug.18:44
studio-user891why should i they did not take the time to even test the application?18:44
sakrecoerstudio-user891: things are tested, however, to asnwer to your question "why should i?" well, because freesoftware is made by people like you and me18:45
OvenWerksstudio-user891: The software installer has had a few problems since it replaced USC (ubuntu software center). I do not trust either one (personal prejudice).18:50
studio-user891I have never released any software that i have worked on that has not been tested.18:50
OvenWerksI always install synaptic as one of my first things.18:50
studio-user891anyhow yes i am going to post a bug.18:50
OvenWerksThis  is one of the problems with Ubuntu's release schedule. It gets released by a certain date come "hell or high water"18:51
OvenWerksthe software installer's main bugs have been with packages that have been downloaded from other surces. That is it has been unusual to have problems with installing any application the installer can find in ubuntu's preo.18:53
studio-user891provided a feedback on application page....seems like they do not even check that as there are a ton of people with the same problem with banshee.19:00
studio-user891although they are using bugzilla repository ... why the hell is this so split. they should receive updates from review page to cross reference for bugs and alerts.19:01
studio-user891Well the hell or high water schedule should be scrapped. Hell this is not windows.19:02
studio-user891When i use ubuntu or some distro built on it I expect the applications listed to work.19:03
studio-user891not just install a non functional front end.19:03
studio-user891anyhow have to get back to bugzilla19:04
sakrecoeri both agree and disagree; deadlines are important to push things forward, but then again... they are actulay called "dead line" because they can be deadly :D19:04
studio-user891thanks for the insight on the changes.19:04
OvenWerksGood to know banshee is broken19:04
studio-user891that helps with the understanding the distro and the development.19:04
studio-user891well broken from the software center install for sure.19:05
studio-user891It may not be with the sudo install.19:05
studio-user891since that seems to pull from repositories that work.19:05
studio-user891based on the audacious install.19:06
studio-user891not on banshee.19:06
studio-user891thats booted to the curb.19:06
studio-user891ovenwerks19:10
studio-user891That krita application is great though19:11
OvenWerksSad thing is that I think we had to remove it for the next release19:12
studio-user891Are you serious they are removing Krita?19:12
OvenWerkssakrecoer: did krita get fixed for 16.10?19:12
OvenWerkskrita was keeping the install iso from building.19:13
studio-user891it works perfectly with my wacom tablet.19:13
studio-user891right off the install.19:13
studio-user891of the o/s19:13
OvenWerksI am not sure that it is installable in 16.10 even after install.19:13
OvenWerks16.04 krita works really well.19:14
sakrecoerOvenWerks: i don't know the status right now tbh, need to ask ross if he ahs time to look into it.19:14
OvenWerks ok19:14
studio-user891Ok well please check19:14
studio-user891i really dont want to remove the o/s19:14
studio-user891ok well have to reboot system now.19:15
studio-user891thanks for all the feedback.19:15
OvenWerks16.04 will continue to work for you and will be supported for 3 years19:15
OvenWerksOne hopes that krita will be fixed by 18.0419:15
studio-user891yeah that is a good poin t.19:15
studio-user891when is release stated/expected for 18.04?19:16
OvenWerksthe release numbers are year.month19:16
OvenWerks16.04 was released in the 4th month of 201619:16
studio-user891Ah ok. thx.19:16
studio-user891what was the sudo command you used for the rythmbox install?19:17
studio-user891was it the sudo apt install rythmbox?19:18
OvenWerksThat sounds right.19:18
studio-user891one thing i do like about this is the IRC uses the firefox19:21
studio-user502hey ovenwerks21:23
studio-user502i was the guy who had issue with banshee and rhythmbox21:24
studio-user502seems like rhthmbox only looked up list of music. it did not actually import the music.21:24
studio-user502so tried the import button and it seems to be working now after a crash and relaunch.21:25
studio-user502even with the shuffle on and the cross fade.21:25
studio-user502Thanks for the information earlier on this.21:26
studio-user502have a good one.21:26

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