[00:08] <ordinate> dicked around in the terminal, xfce4-panel doesn't work in the slightest
[00:10] <ordinate> rebooted, f9'd from the boot menu into ubuntu, found no boot media or something
[00:11] <ordinate> changed up the boot order to get it back, but the problem still persists
[00:11] <ordinate> also that time problem is back again
[00:14] <xubuntu73d> hello?
[00:14] <ordinate> hi
[00:14] <knome> hello
[00:15] <xubuntu73d> LOL  great some really is here!
[00:15] <ordinate> huwway
[00:17] <xubuntu73d> Got a question about setting up multiple users in Xubuntu.  I have two accounts: Admin and Desktop user.  But when I reboot the machine it always defaults to a no login boot to the Admin desktop.  Before I made the Desktop account, it always came to the standard login prompt.  How can I set it up to always boot to the User Selection/Login prompt?
[00:18] <ordinate> knome knows, i don't
[00:19] <xubuntu73d> Not sure how I broke it.
[00:21] <knome> did you set up automatic login?
[00:22] <xubuntu73d> No.  Before creating the second account, I always booted to the session/user selection gui.
[00:24] <xubuntu73d> Just FYI, I do have another distro on the drive and at boot have to select in the grub bootloader.  I can't see how that would make any diff though.
[00:26] <xubuntu73d> Any ideas?
[00:28] <xubuntu73d> Well, thanks for trying.
[15:21] <yourgg> hello, i'm trying to install korean language/keyboard on xubuntu 16.04.01 but so far with no success anyone here knows anything about that?
[15:26] <yourgg> I use fcitx , the korean keyboard appears in the indicator bar, I can switch it on from there but it has no effect
[15:29] <yourgg> in my old machine I was using Ibus without problem should I go back to it or keep trying with fcitx?
[15:42] <lshw> hi everybody. Is someone here willing to answer a question about developing an xfce4-panel-plugin?
[16:05] <yourgg> nobody experienced with fcitx and korean has time to help me ?
[16:39] <Fernando-Basso> I was going to suggest arch wiki to yourgg: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Internationalization/Korean
[16:39] <Fernando-Basso> It might help.
[18:58] <malysps> hello, I have one minor issue with Greybird in Xubuntu 16.04, can I ask here or better create new issue on github?
[19:04] <tmsbrg> malysps, you can post your issue here and see if there's anyone around who knows about it or could help you
[19:06] <tmsbrg> if it's really a bug then it's worth adding looking for it in the issue tracker and adding it if it's not there yet.
[19:06] <tmsbrg> s/adding looking/looking/
[19:09] <malysps> this issue is visible on twitch.com website, I'll show you two screenshots 1) http://prnt.sc/ceioxz 2) http://prnt.sc/ceio54
[19:10] <malysps> 1) is a Zukitre theme, and it looks clean 2) is Greybird and it shows unnecessary scrollbar on the left side (above the avatar) and overlapping scrollbars on the right side
[19:18] <tmsbrg> malysps, wouldn't that be a problem with the theme combination?
[19:18] <YankDownUnder> malysps: You've looked on github for this issue?
[19:19] <mypainter> Hi. After installing plasma (kde) I can no longer log into xfce. The mouse look changed after installing plasma, which was cool, but after a couple boots it just stopped being able to log in at all. I tried installing lxdm and the like, but when selecting xubuntu or xfce as a session it just either bounces me out (lxdm) or hangs with a desktopbackground and mouse (lightdm). Lxde and Kde both work fine.
[19:19] <mypainter> memory usage is 44% or under for all df -H listings
[19:20] <malysps> tmsbrg, what do you mean by combination? YankDownUnder, yes, I couldn't find it, but maybe I must look deeper
[19:20] <YankDownUnder> malysps: https://github.com/lassekongo83/zuki-themes => where to start...
[19:22] <tmsbrg> malysps, I'm not exactly an expert of window themes, but maybe Greybird and Zukitre aren't meant to work together
[19:23] <malysps> yes, I've got zuki-themes (branch 3.18) from github, but this issue is about Greybird (default Xubuntu 16.04 version)
[19:23] <malysps> I'm not combining them in any way
[19:24] <malysps> screenshot with Zukitre theme is only to show how this website should look like (no scrollbars)
[19:25] <mypainter> Any ideas? How can I get a detailed terminal-style output  / log to figure out why I cannot login using xfce anymore?
[19:25] <tmsbrg> mypainter, no idea but it may be work looking at the logs like checking `dmesg|less' and scrolling to the end after the login fail
[19:25] <mypainter> ok, thanks tmsbrg
[19:26] <mypainter> that is a good point. although, there isn't a xfce log somewhere though?
[19:26] <tmsbrg> I don't think so and I don't see any on my system
[19:27] <tmsbrg> though lightdm has a log that could be worth checking out in /var/log/lightdm
[19:29] <YankDownUnder> mypainter: In some instances - installing KDE/Plasma will cause "sddm" to be installed - and having the two different "display managers" can cause issues - more than just login issues. You should be ablle to use the first tty (using CTL+ALT+F1), login, do a "sudo service lightdm stop", then do "sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm" => make sure that lightdm is set as the primary displaymanager....once done, you can then do: sudo service
[19:29] <YankDownUnder> lightdm start => see if that resolves the issue...
[19:30] <mypainter> does sddm not play nice with xfce?
[19:31] <mypainter> also, YankDownUnder, when I try that, I will lose irc connection
[19:32] <YankDownUnder> mypainter: It *can* => but bear in mind that it's primarily a KDE/Plasma "dm" and it *can* cause issues with "other" window managers and desktops...(been there done that)
[19:34] <mypainter> would that explain why the cursor changed?
[19:34] <YankDownUnder> mypainter: Yes
[19:34] <mypainter> ok
[19:35] <mypainter> yeah it was something like the first reboot the cursor changed, then a few later the desktop icons were kind of unreadible unless selected -so i changed the theme to fix it, and then a few reboots after that it just stopped working altogether
[19:37] <mypainter> ok, thanks <YankDownUnder>, I'll be back (hopefully)
[19:37] <YankDownUnder> mypainter: Look, the reality of the situation is this: KDE/Plasma and all the rest have not played nice for years...many years...so, if you're going to mix up the desktop environments, bear this in mind and be prepared...it can get ugly (literally, it can get ugly - themes, icons, and more) :)
[19:42] <mypainter> nope
[19:42] <mypainter> using lxde from lightdm seems to be my best option
[19:43] <mypainter> plasma is too slow for this i3
[19:43] <mypainter> it works but everything is just an extra .5seconds slower
[19:44] <mypainter> dropdown boxes etc
[19:46] <YankDownUnder> mypainter: All the "eye candy" comes at a price.
[19:49] <mintlovers> https://twitter.com/Alamann7/status/772684722325508096/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
[19:49] <mintlovers> heh heh
 So I checked the log locations
[20:11] <mypainter> and I can't find anything that seems like it would say why xfce keeps failing
[20:12] <YankDownUnder> mypainter: Create a new user. Try to login to XFce with the new user. If you *can*, then that tells you something is hosed in the profile.
[20:13] <mypainter> hmm that is an interesting idea
[20:21] <mypainter> unrelated question?
[20:21] <mypainter> :
[20:21] <YankDownUnder> Shoot
[20:21] <mypainter> how can I have a window in xubuntu automatically move to a part of the screen
[20:21] <mypainter> similar to super+arrow in windows
[20:21] <mypainter> ?
[20:22] <YankDownUnder> mypainter: You mean a "saved state" for a window?
[20:22] <mypainter> no. just tiled movement
[20:22] <mypainter> from keyboard, make a window take up half the screen (either horizontally or vertically)
[20:25] <YankDownUnder> mypainter: Look through the "window manager" settings and "window manager tweaks" => there used to be several different ways of doing it, but that, for me, is past time...and if I recall, there was a means by which to assign keycombos to such...but again...in the past for me...