| IrcsomeBot | <tsimonq2> @yofel @CliffordTheBigRedDoggie @acheronuk | 03:29 |
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| IrcsomeBot | <tsimonq2> | 03:29 |
| IrcsomeBot | <tsimonq2> Expect me to be offline a lot in the next weekish. Surgery on Friday, I need to catch up on sleep, and of course school. There's a small chance I'll be online during my lunch period at school, but there's also a good amount of non-Kubuntu work I need to make progress on in the next week that I've not done (Lubuntu stuff etc.). I'm not forgetting you guys, I just need a week (or maybe longer if there's complications from surgery | 03:29 |
| IrcsomeBot | or take a half a week to just get things together. This is really where school starts to get hard, and I want the next week to be able to cope. | 03:29 |
| IrcsomeBot | <tsimonq2> | 03:29 |
| IrcsomeBot | <tsimonq2> Don't be afraid to ping if you need me to do anything specific, but I have a backlog, so it might be a delayed response time. :) | 03:29 |
| IrcsomeBot | <tsimonq2> | 03:29 |
| IrcsomeBot | <tsimonq2> o/ | 03:29 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Valoriez> No stress, @tsimonq2 ! Rest and recover | 06:07 |
| lordievader | Good morning. | 07:43 |
| jimarvan | good morning! | 08:05 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ovidiuflorin> Hello | 08:08 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ovidiuflorin> yofel @yofel and @CliffordTheBigRedDoggie what's the current state of the KDevelop 5 packaging? | 08:08 |
| IrcsomeBot | <CliffordTheBigRedDoggie> We added it to KCI | 09:47 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Valoriez> \o/ | 09:48 |
| IrcsomeBot | <CliffordTheBigRedDoggie> http://kci.pangea.pub/job/merger_kdevelop/ | 09:50 |
| IrcsomeBot | <CliffordTheBigRedDoggie> Both xx and yy are showing green | 09:50 |
| IrcsomeBot | <CliffordTheBigRedDoggie> Meant to ask Phil if we could setup an auto copying to a separate PPA | 09:52 |
| IrcsomeBot | <CliffordTheBigRedDoggie> Ie setup a kdevelop unstable PPA and auto copy the kdevelop tree into it on successful build | 09:53 |
| IrcsomeBot | <CliffordTheBigRedDoggie> So people like yourself who want latest kdevelop can add that PPA and not be affected by other unstable stuff | 09:54 |
| IrcsomeBot | <yofel> Hm... that's possible alright, we have jobs to copy packages to the -ci/daily already. So adding another job for said kdevelop ppa should be doable. | 10:09 |
| IrcsomeBot | <yofel> You could make a PPA on the kdevelop team on LP for that | 10:10 |
| IrcsomeBot | <yofel> which I just see I'm the owner of... let me fix that | 10:10 |
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| BluesKaj | Hiyas all | 12:09 |
| IrcsomeBot | <CliffordTheBigRedDoggie> What have I done! | 12:38 |
| jimarvan | ? :D | 13:00 |
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| clivejo_bearlin | allo | 14:40 |
| clivejo_bearlin | hi jimarvan | 14:41 |
| clivejo_bearlin | where you been? | 14:41 |
| clivejo_bearlin | ive libertated chicken heads laptop | 14:42 |
| IrcsomeBot | <acheronuk> @tsimonq2, Just read back that message Simon. No worries at all. Stuff you have done the last few weeks has been invaluable | 14:42 |
| clivejo_bearlin | hi ircsomebot | 14:43 |
| clivejo_bearlin | aka acheronuk aka Rik | 14:43 |
| IrcsomeBot | <acheronuk> Afternoon clive :) | 14:44 |
| clivejo_bearlin | how are you? | 14:44 |
| IrcsomeBot | <acheronuk> Better. Had a slight bug the last few days. Not bad bad, but gets you down a bit and makes you turn off somewhat | 14:46 |
| clivejo_bearlin | not been feeling great myself | 14:48 |
| clivejo_bearlin | and missing our HiPPO | 14:48 |
| acheronuk | Who is the Hippo? I must have missed that reference. | 14:51 |
| BluesKaj | sort of like the Walrus ? | 14:53 |
| acheronuk | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2mLAajm7ZY | 14:56 |
| clivejo_bearlin | Highest person of Prestige in the Organisation | 15:05 |
| clivejo_bearlin | or maybe it was opinion | 15:06 |
| clivejo_bearlin | which I think is yofel | 15:06 |
| clivejo_bearlin | so hes our HiPPO | 15:06 |
| acheronuk | Ahhh! | 15:08 |
| clivejo_bearlin | hows Qt coming along? | 15:11 |
| clivejo_bearlin | been out of the loop for a while | 15:12 |
| clivejo_bearlin | Simon added it to KCI? | 15:13 |
| clivejo_bearlin | did it break much? | 15:13 |
| clivejo_bearlin | the list above is empty | 15:13 |
| acheronuk | Qt 5.7 you mean? | 15:14 |
| * clivejo_bearlin nods | 15:14 | |
| acheronuk | surprisingly little | 15:14 |
| acheronuk | I uploaded a new pyqt5 so that it didn't break too much, but one it shaked down it was not bad at all | 15:16 |
| acheronuk | clivejo_bearlin: Not sure if he finished it for Xenial, as I had a grumpy moment when the YY version broke my KCI VM, I and I doubted the wisdom of Qt 5.7 yey | 15:18 |
| acheronuk | Grrr. Not a great typing day. | 15:19 |
| clivejo_bearlin | how did it break your YY ? | 15:19 |
| acheronuk | black screen and plasma not loading after sddm. even starting plasma in terminal did not work, and no sensible error message. | 15:22 |
| clivejo_bearlin | thats odd | 15:22 |
| acheronuk | but rolling back the VM and updating from an earlier snapshot got it working | 15:23 |
| acheronuk | I was just a bit annoyed until that worked, as I had taken quite some trouble to get KCI into a semi-installable state | 15:24 |
| acheronuk | I put it down to plasma oddness. It still has issues on some upgrades, so there you go | 15:25 |
| clivejo_bearlin | would sddm need built on Qt5.7? | 15:26 |
| clivejo_bearlin | no change build from source | 15:27 |
| acheronuk | I don't *think* so. It's the plasma deps that need the rebuild IIRC, which is why it sometimes wants to get removed on the QT bump | 15:29 |
| acheronuk | I am updating my KCI VM now | 15:29 |
| clivejo_bearlin | didnt KCI rebuild everything on Qt5.7? | 15:29 |
| acheronuk | not sddm for YY | 15:30 |
| acheronuk | not job for that http://kci.pangea.pub/view/yakkety%20FIX/search/?q=sddm | 15:31 |
| clivejo_bearlin | I meant the plasma stuffz | 15:31 |
| acheronuk | yes, that all rebuilt on YY. | 15:32 |
| clivejo_bearlin | had the entire stack build on Qt5.7 when you upgraded? | 15:34 |
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| acheronuk | clivejo_bearlin: yes, that was what was odd. | 15:35 |
| clivejo_bearlin | mmmm | 15:37 |
| acheronuk | as said, a roll back to a cleaner snapshot sorted it. so just random oddness I guess | 15:37 |
| clivejo_bearlin | have you retried since? | 15:37 |
| acheronuk | I just am | 15:38 |
| clivejo_bearlin | any chance you could add unstable PPA to one of your PPA's and rebuild sddm on it and see if thats the issue | 15:39 |
| clivejo_bearlin | only if you have time | 15:39 |
| acheronuk | -> http://i.imgur.com/y8uszFO.jpg | 15:40 |
| acheronuk | as said, it's fine now, so I don't think it needs a rebuild | 15:41 |
| clivejo_bearlin | oh its working now? | 15:43 |
| acheronuk | [16:23] <acheronuk> but rolling back the VM and updating from an earlier snapshot got it working | 15:43 |
| acheronuk | yes | 15:43 |
| clivejo_bearlin | oh sorry, miss understood | 15:44 |
| acheronuk | I think it was just some plasma oddness | 15:45 |
| clivejo_bearlin | is PIM working in it? | 15:45 |
| acheronuk | kmail and korganiser/kontact start | 15:47 |
| acheronuk | I don't use them really, so can't say more than that | 15:48 |
| acheronuk | I guess now the KDE-PIM repo has split, that way not last long, as KCI needs those added | 15:49 |
| clivejo_bearlin | I foresee huge issues there | 15:49 |
| clivejo_bearlin | PIM want a user survey completed | 15:50 |
| acheronuk | Going to be a pain for a bit, that is certain | 15:50 |
| clivejo_bearlin | have you used wiki to learn at all? | 15:51 |
| acheronuk | I've look briefly. At the physics and maths pages | 15:52 |
| clivejo_bearlin | what are your thoughts? | 15:52 |
| acheronuk | The idea is great, but strikes me as a good idea that may run out of steam like so many do | 15:53 |
| clivejo_bearlin | dunno | 15:54 |
| clivejo_bearlin | lot of work going on here | 15:54 |
| clivejo_bearlin | and planning to implement KDE and Ubuntu Single Login to it | 15:54 |
| acheronuk | If there is some commitment to it, then fantastic. | 15:55 |
| clivejo_bearlin | seems to be | 15:55 |
| clivejo_bearlin | Im considering getting an account and trying to get packaging docs on there | 15:55 |
| acheronuk | Just so often you see these things, and 6 months later it's "What was that thing we tried?" | 15:56 |
| acheronuk | we need docs somewhere | 15:56 |
| clivejo_bearlin | yeah, I just dont know where is best | 15:58 |
| clivejo_bearlin | but these guys are really pushing /gearing towards students | 15:58 |
| soee_ | http://phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Mesa-12.0.2-Released | 15:59 |
| clivejo_bearlin | might be a nice way to get more eyes on it | 15:59 |
| clivejo_bearlin | take the black magic away from it | 15:59 |
| acheronuk | I would say the kde or ubuntu wiki, but neither are that great | 16:00 |
| clivejo_bearlin | ubuntu one is a distaster | 16:00 |
| clivejo_bearlin | kde I dont like the lay out | 16:00 |
| clivejo_bearlin | wiki to learn is mediawiki and supports templates and formatting which properly done could have a nicer look and feel, also easier to navigate etc | 16:01 |
| acheronuk | I saw the docs copied to the KDE one, and the formatting just did not work | 16:01 |
| clivejo_bearlin | yeah i hate the formatting | 16:02 |
| clivejo_bearlin | makes copying commnds from it very difficult | 16:02 |
| acheronuk | well, lacking a better alternative, and that I want them somewhere as least, then maybe W2L as a stopgap | 16:04 |
| clivejo_bearlin | also exporting tools for creating e-books | 16:04 |
| clivejo_bearlin | although I havent any experience using that | 16:05 |
| clivejo_bearlin | eak | 16:05 |
| clivejo_bearlin | crowds of people! | 16:05 |
| clivejo_bearlin | must be wrapping up | 16:06 |
| clivejo_bearlin | LOL | 16:06 |
| clivejo_bearlin | ovi and sitter having a staring contest | 16:06 |
| acheronuk | I've used LaTeX in distant past, but not recently. | 16:07 |
| acheronuk | As long as no power tools are in hand, it'll be fine :P | 16:08 |
| clivejo_bearlin | how does that work? | 16:08 |
| acheronuk | Document formatting language used a lot in science etc https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LaTeX | 16:10 |
| clivejo_bearlin | where is it stored | 16:11 |
| acheronuk | It is (a) incredibly powerful and (b) a complete PITA | 16:11 |
| * mamarley nags acheronuk about an underfull hbox. | 16:12 | |
| mamarley | ;) | 16:13 |
| acheronuk | mamarley: huh? | 16:13 |
| mamarley | It is a common error message from LaTeX that is rather meaningless and difficult to solve. | 16:13 |
| acheronuk | Oh. yes. | 16:14 |
| acheronuk | My PhD supervisor tried to make me use it, but I never really got on with it | 16:14 |
| clivejo_bearlin | what you do masters in? | 16:15 |
| acheronuk | Physics | 16:15 |
| clivejo_bearlin | acheronuk: remind me next week to look at kube | 16:17 |
| acheronuk | This? https://github.com/KDE/kube | 16:18 |
| blaze | ahem | 16:19 |
| blaze | when the apps gonna get pushed into the archive? | 16:19 |
| clivejo_bearlin | https://quickgit.kde.org/?p=kube.git | 16:19 |
| acheronuk | blaze: when we get a feature freeze exemption for them I guess | 16:20 |
| clivejo_bearlin | and convince someone to upload them | 16:20 |
| clivejo_bearlin | but yes we need to open a FFe for them | 16:21 |
| acheronuk | took so long to get the new QT 5.6 and plasma into YY that apps became a bit of a casualty | 16:23 |
| mamarley | It would also be nice to have Plasma 5.7.4 if possible. :) | 16:24 |
| clivejo_bearlin | it sure would | 16:25 |
| blaze | well, talking about Plasma, is it possible to apply some patches at least before release happens? | 16:26 |
| acheronuk | not sure if we can do point changes this close to release? | 16:26 |
| acheronuk | blaze: what specifically? | 16:26 |
| clivejo_bearlin | if it fixes a bug, yes open a bug report and submit a patch | 16:27 |
| blaze | acheronuk: for example https://phabricator.kde.org/D2613 | 16:27 |
| clivejo_bearlin | is it fixed in 5.7.4? | 16:27 |
| blaze | it's very annoying bug | 16:27 |
| blaze | not fixed til now | 16:28 |
| clivejo_bearlin | can you submit a merge request into the kubuntu_yakkety_archive for it? | 16:29 |
| blaze | not sure if I can, not sure if I know how to do this :) | 16:30 |
| clivejo_bearlin | best way is to find a patch and kinda copy it | 16:31 |
| clivejo_bearlin | for the correct formatting | 16:32 |
| clivejo_bearlin | blaze: you know how to use quilt to patch our packaging? | 16:32 |
| blaze | clivejo_bearlin: I did patched this package in my ppa, you can grab patch from there | 16:33 |
| acheronuk | So https://launchpadlibrarian.net/281704746/plasma-workspace_4%3A5.7.2-0ubuntu1_4%3A5.7.2-0ubuntu2~ppa1.diff.gz | 16:42 |
| blaze | acheronuk: yeah | 16:46 |
| acheronuk | blaze: our packaging is here https://code.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/+git/plasma-workspace | 16:48 |
| blaze | okay | 16:49 |
| acheronuk | you could clone that, add your patch, push to your LP git space, and propose a merge | 16:49 |
| blaze | got it | 16:50 |
| IrcsomeBot | <acheronuk> That is how I got going on here more or less. :) | 16:55 |
| clivejo_bearlin | sorry had to move | 16:57 |
| clivejo_bearlin | did i miss anything? | 16:57 |
| blaze | nothing of importance | 16:58 |
| blaze | acheronuk: I see :) | 16:58 |
| clivejo_bearlin | awww | 16:58 |
| IrcsomeBot | <acheronuk> Just pointed blaze to our packaging so they can do a MP | 16:58 |
| clivejo_bearlin | :) | 16:59 |
| IrcsomeBot | <tsimonq2> Afternoon o/ | 17:29 |
| IrcsomeBot | <tsimonq2> Lunch time at school | 17:29 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ovidiuflorin> What are you having? | 17:30 |
| acheronuk | Evening :) | 17:30 |
| IrcsomeBot | <tsimonq2> I want to get my homework done now so I don't have to bother later | 17:30 |
| IrcsomeBot | <tsimonq2> Sub sandw | 17:30 |
| IrcsomeBot | <tsimonq2> *sandwich | 17:30 |
| IrcsomeBot | <tsimonq2> I hate the placement of the enter key on this keyboard... | 17:30 |
| IrcsomeBot | <tsimonq2> All done | 17:31 |
| IrcsomeBot | <tsimonq2> The milk is disgusting but the sub was great :) | 17:31 |
| IrcsomeBot | <tsimonq2> (Photo, 1280x960) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/R6rqSP0H/file_373.jpg | 17:31 |
| IrcsomeBot | <tsimonq2> o/ acheronuk | 17:32 |
| IrcsomeBot | <tsimonq2> Ok, Geometry homework time! | 17:32 |
| IrcsomeBot | <tsimonq2> o/ | 17:32 |
| acheronuk | Geometry! | 17:34 |
| IrcsomeBot | <tsimonq2> Great... | 17:36 |
| IrcsomeBot | <tsimonq2> No Geometry homework for me! I'm not allowed to go to my locker and get my Geometry book. | 17:36 |
| IrcsomeBot | <tsimonq2> Bah | 17:36 |
| clivejo_bearlin | does anyone know where the entry point for contributing to Kubuntu documentation is? | 17:37 |
| clivejo_bearlin | ahoneybun: | 17:37 |
| IrcsomeBot | <tsimonq2> /me kicks @ahoneybun | 17:37 |
| acheronuk | Fat free chocolate milk? That is a crime! | 17:38 |
| IrcsomeBot | <tsimonq2> Ik... | 17:38 |
| IrcsomeBot | <tsimonq2> It's disgusting | 17:38 |
| IrcsomeBot | <tsimonq2> But it's all I have | 17:38 |
| clivejo_bearlin | water! | 17:39 |
| IrcsomeBot | <tsimonq2> I've had the same milk every weekday for 5 years now 9 months out of the year, I'm sick of it | 17:39 |
| IrcsomeBot | <tsimonq2> They don't give me water for free | 17:39 |
| IrcsomeBot | <tsimonq2> I'd have to find a drinking fountain | 17:39 |
| IrcsomeBot | <tsimonq2> Or bubbler | 17:39 |
| IrcsomeBot | <tsimonq2> Whatever you want to call i:Pt | 17:40 |
| IrcsomeBot | <tsimonq2> *it :P | 17:40 |
| IrcsomeBot | <tsimonq2> So I wish clivejo_bearlin | 17:40 |
| IrcsomeBot | <tsimonq2> (Photo, 1280x960) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/V1Em61OX/file_375.jpg | 17:41 |
| IrcsomeBot | <tsimonq2> Too wet outside to go for a walk | 17:41 |
| IrcsomeBot | <tsimonq2> (I can, I have open campus lunch, it's high school, remember? :P) | 17:42 |
| soee_ | ahoneybun: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/09/rocket-league-linux-download-rumble-update-september | 18:03 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> Finally! | 18:25 |
| soee | plasmashell 200MB, amarok 420 MB .... | 18:46 |
| ahoneybun | clivejo, if you know git: https://github.com/ahoneybun/kubuntu-manual | 18:55 |
| ahoneybun | wiki stuff: https://userbase.kde.org/Kubuntu | 18:55 |
| blaze | acheronuk: should I update the changelog? | 18:55 |
| blaze | i guess not | 18:55 |
| ahoneybun | stop kicking me tsimonq2 | 18:55 |
| IrcsomeBot | <CliffordTheBigRedDoggie> Do you have manual / guide on | 19:08 |
| IrcsomeBot | <CliffordTheBigRedDoggie> How to contribute | 19:08 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> As in what area to work on or what? | 19:22 |
| IrcsomeBot | <CliffordTheBigRedDoggie> If a newbie wanted to help, how do they get involved | 19:40 |
| IrcsomeBot | <CliffordTheBigRedDoggie> A how to guide | 19:41 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> just send a PR with the changes | 19:57 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> I have a temp for how to make pages here: https://github.com/ahoneybun/kubuntu-manual/blob/master/source/RST-Template.rst | 19:58 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> @CliffordTheBigRedDoggie to do what though, add translations, pages, fixes for grammar and typos? | 20:07 |
| IrcsomeBot | <tsimonq2> No @ahoneybun I won't stop kicking you. Lol | 20:09 |
| IrcsomeBot | <CliffordTheBigRedDoggie> To contribute whatever they want | 20:11 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> damn @tsimonq2 | 20:14 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> I'm sure what is missing to contribute tbh | 20:14 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> *not sure | 20:14 |
| IrcsomeBot | <tsimonq2> @ahoneybun, /me kicks @ahoneybun | 20:15 |
| IrcsomeBot | <tsimonq2> Lol | 20:15 |
| IrcsomeBot | <acheronuk> You mean the packaging docs clive? | 20:15 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> soee did you notice Saints Row IV is on Linux? | 20:27 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> yea if your talking about the packaging stuff its in there as well | 20:28 |
| IrcsomeBot | <marcinsagol> @ahoneybun what kind of game is that? | 20:35 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> A fun one | 20:36 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> Lol | 20:36 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> It has a action full funny game | 20:36 |
| clivejo_bearlin | im not a robot | 20:46 |
| acheronuk | we know | 20:48 |
| clivejo_bearlin | Im the crazy bottle man | 20:48 |
| acheronuk | If you say so | 20:48 |
| clivejo_bearlin | we cleaned up the venue of bottles and rubbish at the uni | 20:49 |
| clivejo_bearlin | I collected a rucksack full of bottles and took them to a machine | 20:49 |
| clivejo_bearlin | it spat them all back out at me | 20:49 |
| clivejo_bearlin | stupid recycling system | 20:51 |
| acheronuk | Doesn't sound very bright | 20:53 |
| clivejo_bearlin | it wasnt | 20:53 |
| tsimonq2 | clivejo_bearlin: /nick clivejo_crazy_bottle_man | 20:53 |
| tsimonq2 | lol | 20:53 |
| acheronuk | Berlin sounds odd | 20:54 |
| clivejo_bearlin | it is | 20:55 |
| clivejo_bearlin | theres bears everywhere | 20:55 |
| tsimonq2 | LOL | 20:55 |
| clivejo_bearlin | the bears are on signs and in statues though! | 21:02 |
| clivejo_bearlin | no wild bears wandering the streets | 21:02 |
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| === valorie_clive is now known as valoriez | ||
| === valoriez is now known as clivejo_bearlin | ||
| * ahoneybun wonders why there is no right click in krunner | 21:51 | |
| ahoneybun | oh nice we have a new update icon too | 21:54 |
| * tsimonq2 kicks ahoneybun | 21:54 | |
| * ahoneybun reminds tsimonq2 that he can really kick him | 21:55 | |
| tsimonq2 | hm? | 21:57 |
| ahoneybun | we have a version issue with cpp and gcc-6-base | 21:57 |
| ahoneybun | we need gcc-6-base-2ubuntu1 not 3ubuntu1 | 21:57 |
| ahoneybun | this daily image is bad mm | 22:00 |
| tsimonq2 | MMMMMM | 22:01 |
| ahoneybun | I can't test the ubiquity fixes from blaze | 22:01 |
| ahoneybun | gcc and cpp keep bumping heads | 22:01 |
| IrcsomeBot | <marcinsagol> :) | 23:34 |
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