[03:29] @yofel @CliffordTheBigRedDoggie @acheronuk [03:29] [03:29] Expect me to be offline a lot in the next weekish. Surgery on Friday, I need to catch up on sleep, and of course school. There's a small chance I'll be online during my lunch period at school, but there's also a good amount of non-Kubuntu work I need to make progress on in the next week that I've not done (Lubuntu stuff etc.). I'm not forgetting you guys, I just need a week (or maybe longer if there's complications from surgery [03:29] or take a half a week to just get things together. This is really where school starts to get hard, and I want the next week to be able to cope. [03:29] [03:29] Don't be afraid to ping if you need me to do anything specific, but I have a backlog, so it might be a delayed response time. :) [03:29] [03:29] o/ [06:07] No stress, @tsimonq2 ! Rest and recover [07:43] Good morning. [08:05] good morning! [08:08] Hello [08:08] yofel @yofel and @CliffordTheBigRedDoggie what's the current state of the KDevelop 5 packaging? [09:47] We added it to KCI [09:48] \o/ [09:50] http://kci.pangea.pub/job/merger_kdevelop/ [09:50] Both xx and yy are showing green [09:52] Meant to ask Phil if we could setup an auto copying to a separate PPA [09:53] Ie setup a kdevelop unstable PPA and auto copy the kdevelop tree into it on successful build [09:54] So people like yourself who want latest kdevelop can add that PPA and not be affected by other unstable stuff [10:09] Hm... that's possible alright, we have jobs to copy packages to the -ci/daily already. So adding another job for said kdevelop ppa should be doable. [10:10] You could make a PPA on the kdevelop team on LP for that [10:10] which I just see I'm the owner of... let me fix that === pavlushka is now known as Guest70016 [12:09] Hiyas all [12:38] What have I done! [13:00] ? :D === z4ki is now known as zaki [14:40] allo [14:41] hi jimarvan [14:41] where you been? [14:42] ive libertated chicken heads laptop [14:42] @tsimonq2, Just read back that message Simon. No worries at all. Stuff you have done the last few weeks has been invaluable [14:43] hi ircsomebot [14:43] aka acheronuk aka Rik [14:44] Afternoon clive :) [14:44] how are you? [14:46] Better. Had a slight bug the last few days. Not bad bad, but gets you down a bit and makes you turn off somewhat [14:48] not been feeling great myself [14:48] and missing our HiPPO [14:51] Who is the Hippo? I must have missed that reference. [14:53] sort of like the Walrus ? [14:56] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2mLAajm7ZY [15:05] Highest person of Prestige in the Organisation [15:06] or maybe it was opinion [15:06] which I think is yofel [15:06] so hes our HiPPO [15:08] Ahhh! [15:11] hows Qt coming along? [15:12] been out of the loop for a while [15:13] Simon added it to KCI? [15:13] did it break much? [15:13] the list above is empty [15:14] Qt 5.7 you mean? [15:14] * clivejo_bearlin nods [15:14] surprisingly little [15:16] I uploaded a new pyqt5 so that it didn't break too much, but one it shaked down it was not bad at all [15:18] clivejo_bearlin: Not sure if he finished it for Xenial, as I had a grumpy moment when the YY version broke my KCI VM, I and I doubted the wisdom of Qt 5.7 yey [15:19] Grrr. Not a great typing day. [15:19] how did it break your YY ? [15:22] black screen and plasma not loading after sddm. even starting plasma in terminal did not work, and no sensible error message. [15:22] thats odd [15:23] but rolling back the VM and updating from an earlier snapshot got it working [15:24] I was just a bit annoyed until that worked, as I had taken quite some trouble to get KCI into a semi-installable state [15:25] I put it down to plasma oddness. It still has issues on some upgrades, so there you go [15:26] would sddm need built on Qt5.7? [15:27] no change build from source [15:29] I don't *think* so. It's the plasma deps that need the rebuild IIRC, which is why it sometimes wants to get removed on the QT bump [15:29] I am updating my KCI VM now [15:29] didnt KCI rebuild everything on Qt5.7? [15:30] not sddm for YY [15:31] not job for that http://kci.pangea.pub/view/yakkety%20FIX/search/?q=sddm [15:31] I meant the plasma stuffz [15:32] yes, that all rebuilt on YY. [15:34] had the entire stack build on Qt5.7 when you upgraded? === mgolden is now known as mgolden_ [15:35] clivejo_bearlin: yes, that was what was odd. [15:37] mmmm [15:37] as said, a roll back to a cleaner snapshot sorted it. so just random oddness I guess [15:37] have you retried since? [15:38] I just am [15:39] any chance you could add unstable PPA to one of your PPA's and rebuild sddm on it and see if thats the issue [15:39] only if you have time [15:40] -> http://i.imgur.com/y8uszFO.jpg [15:41] as said, it's fine now, so I don't think it needs a rebuild [15:43] oh its working now? [15:43] [16:23] but rolling back the VM and updating from an earlier snapshot got it working [15:43] yes [15:44] oh sorry, miss understood [15:45] I think it was just some plasma oddness [15:45] is PIM working in it? [15:47] kmail and korganiser/kontact start [15:48] I don't use them really, so can't say more than that [15:49] I guess now the KDE-PIM repo has split, that way not last long, as KCI needs those added [15:49] I foresee huge issues there [15:50] PIM want a user survey completed [15:50] Going to be a pain for a bit, that is certain [15:51] have you used wiki to learn at all? [15:52] I've look briefly. At the physics and maths pages [15:52] what are your thoughts? [15:53] The idea is great, but strikes me as a good idea that may run out of steam like so many do [15:54] dunno [15:54] lot of work going on here [15:54] and planning to implement KDE and Ubuntu Single Login to it [15:55] If there is some commitment to it, then fantastic. [15:55] seems to be [15:55] Im considering getting an account and trying to get packaging docs on there [15:56] Just so often you see these things, and 6 months later it's "What was that thing we tried?" [15:56] we need docs somewhere [15:58] yeah, I just dont know where is best [15:58] but these guys are really pushing /gearing towards students [15:59] http://phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Mesa-12.0.2-Released [15:59] might be a nice way to get more eyes on it [15:59] take the black magic away from it [16:00] I would say the kde or ubuntu wiki, but neither are that great [16:00] ubuntu one is a distaster [16:00] kde I dont like the lay out [16:01] wiki to learn is mediawiki and supports templates and formatting which properly done could have a nicer look and feel, also easier to navigate etc [16:01] I saw the docs copied to the KDE one, and the formatting just did not work [16:02] yeah i hate the formatting [16:02] makes copying commnds from it very difficult [16:04] well, lacking a better alternative, and that I want them somewhere as least, then maybe W2L as a stopgap [16:04] also exporting tools for creating e-books [16:05] although I havent any experience using that [16:05] eak [16:05] crowds of people! [16:06] must be wrapping up [16:06] LOL [16:06] ovi and sitter having a staring contest [16:07] I've used LaTeX in distant past, but not recently. [16:08] As long as no power tools are in hand, it'll be fine :P [16:08] how does that work? [16:10] Document formatting language used a lot in science etc https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LaTeX [16:11] where is it stored [16:11] It is (a) incredibly powerful and (b) a complete PITA [16:12] * mamarley nags acheronuk about an underfull hbox. [16:13] ;) [16:13] mamarley: huh? [16:13] It is a common error message from LaTeX that is rather meaningless and difficult to solve. [16:14] Oh. yes. [16:14] My PhD supervisor tried to make me use it, but I never really got on with it [16:15] what you do masters in? [16:15] Physics [16:17] acheronuk: remind me next week to look at kube [16:18] This? https://github.com/KDE/kube [16:19] ahem [16:19] when the apps gonna get pushed into the archive? [16:19] https://quickgit.kde.org/?p=kube.git [16:20] blaze: when we get a feature freeze exemption for them I guess [16:20] and convince someone to upload them [16:21] but yes we need to open a FFe for them [16:23] took so long to get the new QT 5.6 and plasma into YY that apps became a bit of a casualty [16:24] It would also be nice to have Plasma 5.7.4 if possible. :) [16:25] it sure would [16:26] well, talking about Plasma, is it possible to apply some patches at least before release happens? [16:26] not sure if we can do point changes this close to release? [16:26] blaze: what specifically? [16:27] if it fixes a bug, yes open a bug report and submit a patch [16:27] acheronuk: for example https://phabricator.kde.org/D2613 [16:27] is it fixed in 5.7.4? [16:27] it's very annoying bug [16:28] not fixed til now [16:29] can you submit a merge request into the kubuntu_yakkety_archive for it? [16:30] not sure if I can, not sure if I know how to do this :) [16:31] best way is to find a patch and kinda copy it [16:32] for the correct formatting [16:32] blaze: you know how to use quilt to patch our packaging? [16:33] clivejo_bearlin: I did patched this package in my ppa, you can grab patch from there [16:42] So https://launchpadlibrarian.net/281704746/plasma-workspace_4%3A5.7.2-0ubuntu1_4%3A5.7.2-0ubuntu2~ppa1.diff.gz [16:46] acheronuk: yeah [16:48] blaze: our packaging is here https://code.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/+git/plasma-workspace [16:49] okay [16:49] you could clone that, add your patch, push to your LP git space, and propose a merge [16:50] got it [16:55] That is how I got going on here more or less. :) [16:57] sorry had to move [16:57] did i miss anything? [16:58] nothing of importance [16:58] acheronuk: I see :) [16:58] awww [16:58] Just pointed blaze to our packaging so they can do a MP [16:59] :) [17:29] Afternoon o/ [17:29] Lunch time at school [17:30] What are you having? [17:30] Evening :) [17:30] I want to get my homework done now so I don't have to bother later [17:30] Sub sandw [17:30] *sandwich [17:30] I hate the placement of the enter key on this keyboard... [17:31] All done [17:31] The milk is disgusting but the sub was great :) [17:31] (Photo, 1280x960) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/R6rqSP0H/file_373.jpg [17:32] o/ acheronuk [17:32] Ok, Geometry homework time! [17:32] o/ [17:34] Geometry! [17:36] Great... [17:36] No Geometry homework for me! I'm not allowed to go to my locker and get my Geometry book. [17:36] Bah [17:37] does anyone know where the entry point for contributing to Kubuntu documentation is? [17:37] ahoneybun: [17:37] /me kicks @ahoneybun [17:38] Fat free chocolate milk? That is a crime! [17:38] Ik... [17:38] It's disgusting [17:38] But it's all I have [17:39] water! [17:39] I've had the same milk every weekday for 5 years now 9 months out of the year, I'm sick of it [17:39] They don't give me water for free [17:39] I'd have to find a drinking fountain [17:39] Or bubbler [17:40] Whatever you want to call i:Pt [17:40] *it :P [17:40] So I wish clivejo_bearlin [17:41] (Photo, 1280x960) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/V1Em61OX/file_375.jpg [17:41] Too wet outside to go for a walk [17:42] (I can, I have open campus lunch, it's high school, remember? :P) [18:03] ahoneybun: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/09/rocket-league-linux-download-rumble-update-september [18:25] Finally! [18:46] plasmashell 200MB, amarok 420 MB .... [18:55] clivejo, if you know git: https://github.com/ahoneybun/kubuntu-manual [18:55] wiki stuff: https://userbase.kde.org/Kubuntu [18:55] acheronuk: should I update the changelog? [18:55] i guess not [18:55] stop kicking me tsimonq2 [19:08] Do you have manual / guide on [19:08] How to contribute [19:22] As in what area to work on or what? [19:40] If a newbie wanted to help, how do they get involved [19:41] A how to guide [19:57] just send a PR with the changes [19:58] I have a temp for how to make pages here: https://github.com/ahoneybun/kubuntu-manual/blob/master/source/RST-Template.rst [20:07] @CliffordTheBigRedDoggie to do what though, add translations, pages, fixes for grammar and typos? [20:09] No @ahoneybun I won't stop kicking you. Lol [20:11] To contribute whatever they want [20:14] damn @tsimonq2 [20:14] I'm sure what is missing to contribute tbh [20:14] *not sure [20:15] @ahoneybun, /me kicks @ahoneybun [20:15] Lol [20:15] You mean the packaging docs clive? [20:27] soee did you notice Saints Row IV is on Linux? [20:28] yea if your talking about the packaging stuff its in there as well [20:35] @ahoneybun what kind of game is that? [20:36] A fun one [20:36] Lol [20:36] It has a action full funny game [20:46] im not a robot [20:48] we know [20:48] Im the crazy bottle man [20:48] If you say so [20:49] we cleaned up the venue of bottles and rubbish at the uni [20:49] I collected a rucksack full of bottles and took them to a machine [20:49] it spat them all back out at me [20:51] stupid recycling system [20:53] Doesn't sound very bright [20:53] it wasnt [20:53] clivejo_bearlin: /nick clivejo_crazy_bottle_man [20:53] lol [20:54] Berlin sounds odd [20:55] it is [20:55] theres bears everywhere [20:55] LOL [21:02] the bears are on signs and in statues though! [21:02] no wild bears wandering the streets === clivejo_bearlin is now known as valorie_clive === valorie_clive is now known as valoriez === valoriez is now known as clivejo_bearlin [21:51] * ahoneybun wonders why there is no right click in krunner [21:54] oh nice we have a new update icon too [21:54] * tsimonq2 kicks ahoneybun [21:55] * ahoneybun reminds tsimonq2 that he can really kick him [21:57] hm? [21:57] we have a version issue with cpp and gcc-6-base [21:57] we need gcc-6-base-2ubuntu1 not 3ubuntu1 [22:00] this daily image is bad mm [22:01] MMMMMM [22:01] I can't test the ubiquity fixes from blaze [22:01] gcc and cpp keep bumping heads [23:34] :)