[02:19] <logical> Hi, is there a way to make mate panel look flat, something like xfce, i am not a fan of this bubble look :P, I prefer more material square look of windows and the top panel
[02:19] <logical> i tried googling but it didnt help me
[02:29] <Gallomimia> i got a problem with fullscreen games going minimize with alt-tab and coming back with the title bar and my top panel in the way. then it's 64 pixels too low
[02:29] <Gallomimia> 2 monitors. game on 2nd
[02:44] <logical> try alt+enter
[02:44] <logical> maybe that will push the game to fullscreen
[04:09] <Gallomimia> hm. can try
[06:10] <logical> anyone using foxit reader?
[06:12] <jeet> hello ??
[06:23] <jeet> wxm?\\
[14:40] <olscumpy> at whom is the MATE version of ubuntu targeted, compared to other ubuntu flavours?
[16:22] <ogtay> a
[16:39] <clint_> I just did an install.
[16:39] <clint_> My sound card does not work.  Which is the norm on Linux with my Toshiba Satellite.  Any help?
[16:47] <sixwheeledbeast> clint_: have you checked in sound settings?
[16:50] <clint_> Yes, it usually say head phones or dummy output.
[16:50] <clint_> Mate actually states "Built-in Audio Stero" Connector Headphones.
[16:51] <clint_> The headphones work, but it's really really quiet.
[16:51] <clint_> Windows works fine with realtek drivers, but linux seems to have an issue with them.  So far I like Mate.
[16:51] <sixwheeledbeast> What options in Hardware
[16:53] <clint_> Where do I find that?
[16:53] <clint_> Sound Preferences states "Built-in Audio 1 Output/2 Inputs Analog Stero Duplex
[16:54] <sixwheeledbeast> Hardware in Sound Prefs
[16:58] <clint_> Built-in Audio Analog Stereo.
[16:58] <clint_> Connector Headphones.
[17:02] <clint_> I'll be back, trying a reboot.'
[17:05] <sixwheeledbeast> surely connector should be speakers or line out?
[17:05] <clint_> still no sound. :(
[17:09] <pavlushka> clint_: you can try "sudo alsa force-reload"
[17:12] <allanViking> my thinkpad W541 Sierra Wireless 3G worked fine on the Ubuntu Mate livecd, but NetworkManager says "not enabled" and does not show any connections
[17:15] <clint_> did it, no change.  Do I need to reboot?
[17:15] <clint_> Unloading ALSA sound driver modules: snd-hda-codec-realtek snd-hda-codec-generic snd-hda-codec-hdmi snd-hda-intel snd-hda-codec snd-hda-core snd-hwdep snd-pcm snd-seq-midi snd-seq-midi-event snd-rawmidi snd-seq snd-seq-device snd-timer (failed: modules still loaded: snd-hda-codec-realtek snd-hda-codec-generic snd-hda-codec-hdmi snd-hda-intel snd-hda-codec snd-hda-core snd-hwdep snd-pcm snd-timer).
[17:15] <clint_> Loading ALSA sound driver modules: snd-hda-codec-realtek snd-hda-codec-generic snd-hda-codec-hdmi snd-hda-intel snd-hda-codec snd-hda-core snd-hwdep snd-pcm snd-seq-midi snd-seq-midi-event snd-rawmidi snd-seq snd-seq-device snd-timer.
[17:15] <clint_> That's what the output was after the command.
[17:18] <pavlushka> clint_: try to follow this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting
[17:25] <pavlushka> clint_: if you have any question/problem while/after following that link, you can ask :)
[17:27] <pavlushka> clint_: and use paste.ubuntu.com to paste your terminal output and give us that link next time :)
[17:33] <clint_> ok, will try it.
[19:33] <otakuserum> Aloha
[19:34] <otakuserum> i just installed ubuntu mate about 48 hours ago
[19:34] <otakuserum> i like how starbound just works right now lol
[20:23] <alkisg> allanViking, try sudo service network-manager restart
[20:24] <allanViking> alkisg: no joy, still says its not enabled. I even tried a restart
[20:25] <allanViking_> "enable mobile broadband" is checked
[20:25] <allanViking_> tried adding a new broadband connection, but it did not appear in the list
[20:28] <alkisg> allanViking, does the device show up in `ip l` ?
[20:30] <allanViking_> 2: enp0s25: <NO-CARRIER,BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP> mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast state DOWN mode DEFAULT group default qlen 1000
[20:30] <allanViking_>     link/ether 54:ee:75:4e:c7:85 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
[20:30] <allanViking_> 3: wlp3s0: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 1500 qdisc mq state UP mode DORMANT group default qlen 1000
[20:30] <allanViking_>     link/ether cc:3d:82:71:ac:28 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
[20:30] <allanViking_> 5: wwp0s20u10: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,NOARP> mtu 1428 qdisc noop state DOWN mode DEFAULT group default qlen 1000
[20:30] <allanViking_>     link/ether 8a:fa:b9:20:dd:53 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
[20:30] <allanViking_> im not sure which one it is
[20:30] <allanViking_> lsusb -t shows it as:
[20:31] <allanViking_> |__ Port 10: Dev 10, If 0, Class=Communications, Driver=cdc_mbim, 480M
[20:31] <allanViking_>     |__ Port 10: Dev 10, If 1, Class=CDC Data, Driver=cdc_mbim, 480M
[20:31] <allanViking_>     |__ Port 10: Dev 10, If 2, Class=Communications, Driver=cdc_acm, 480M
[20:31] <allanViking_>     |__ Port 10: Dev 10, If 3, Class=CDC Data, Driver=cdc_acm, 480M
[20:31] <alkisg> Better use pastebin in order to avoid filling the channel
[20:31] <alkisg> enp0s25 would be your wired connection
[20:32] <allanViking_> sorry bout tht
[20:32] <allanViking_> in my old 14.04 install it used to be wwan0 and wifi used to be wlan0,
[20:32] <alkisg> wlp3s0 your wifi, I assume you connect through that one now
[20:32] <allanViking_> yeah
[20:32] <alkisg> And wwp0s20u10 the 3g device
[20:33] <allanViking_> after a clean install I copied the /var/lib/NetworkManager and /etc/NetworkManager directories from my old install
[20:33] <alkisg> Btw, if you've connected with a wifi, I think the 3g connection isn't made to save data bandwidth
[20:33] <allanViking_> but right now I rebooted using the stock dirs from the 16.04 install
[20:33] <allanViking_> is this a new thing since 14.04 ?
[20:33] <alkisg> No idea, I've only tried a 3g dongle last week for the first time, in 16.04
[20:34] <allanViking_> disabling wifi did not help
[20:34] <allanViking_> I have an internal 4G card and antenna in my Thinkpad
[20:35] <allanViking_> its so weird that it worked perfectly fine on the Ubuntu Mate 16.04.1 livecd
[20:35] <alkisg> And the network manager menu doesn't list that device?
[20:36] <allanViking_> Mobile Broadband is greyed out and below it instead of my 3G connections it shows a greyed out: not enabled
[20:37] <alkisg> do you have anything other than "lo" in /etc/network/interfaces?
[20:37] <allanViking_> I tried hard restarting the device by cutting power to it with: echo '1-10' |tee /sys/bus/usb/drivers/usb/unbind
[20:37] <allanViking_> only these:
[20:37] <allanViking_> auto lo
[20:37] <allanViking_> iface lo inet loopback
[20:38] <alkisg> what happens if you run: sudo ifconfig wwp0s20u10 up
[20:39] <allanViking_> still greyed out
[20:39] <alkisg> sudo dhclient wwp0s20u10
[20:40] <allanViking_> blinking blank line, networkmanager still greyed out
[20:40] <alkisg> Ctrl+C
[20:40] <alkisg> Then: lspci -nn -k | egrep -iA2 'Ethernet|Wireless'
[20:41] <alkisg> The output of that one?
[20:41] <allanViking_> in 14.04 when I added a new 3G connection in NetworkManager, then in the first page after selecting Broadband connection it would show my device name in the dropdpown - right now its an empty dropdown with only an "any device" option
[20:41] <allanViking_> https://thepb.in/p/y8h6GzBX837cO
[20:41] <alkisg> I suppose you correctly restored the /etc and /var dirs, right?
[20:42] <allanViking_> I chowned everything with the right owners
[20:42] <allanViking_> but the network device names are different
[20:42] <alkisg> Hmm...
[20:42] <alkisg> I don't see drivers loaded there
[20:42] <alkisg> Can you run that same command, on a live cd?
[20:42] <alkisg> And see which driver is loaded for the 3g?
[20:43] <otakuserum> hi
[20:43] <allanViking_> alkisg: ok, going into reboot
[20:43] <alkisg> allanViking,
[20:43] <allanViking_> yes
[20:43] <alkisg> ...on second  thought, it's late for me so I'm going to head to bed...
[20:43] <allanViking_> what should I look for?
[20:44] <alkisg> but it may be useful for someone else trying to help you
[20:44] <alkisg> The basic idea is to check for differences between the live cd session and the hd installation
[20:44] <alkisg> I'm worried about those /etc and /var dirs though
[20:44] <allanViking_> I tried to grep for wlan0 and wwan0, but there were no matches
[20:45] <allanViking_> ./etc/networking is from the blank install
[20:45] <alkisg> The naming scheme changed recently, they tried to get most static names based on the bus, slot etc
[20:45] <alkisg> ...which sucks a bit... if I move my pci card it gets a different name...
[20:45] <alkisg> Anyway, time to go... bb!
[20:46] <allanViking_> thank you still :)
[22:56] <danny_> Why on earth does the Battery applet use 300mb of ram?
[23:19] <reptarius> hello
[23:43] <reptarius> what  are you doing guys?
[23:53] <danny_> reptarius, considering switching to windows
[23:57] <reptarius> i wish you happy fun