[01:00] <mamarley> Mirv: It looks like the most recent qtbase-opensource-src upload in Yakkety causes Quassel to crash every time on startup: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qtbase-opensource-src/+bug/1620870
[04:35] <Mirv> mamarley: and I tested like transmission and qtcreator... the problem is related to mitya57's patches backported from Qt 5.7, which solve a lot of problems (including the appmenu-qt5 caused problems) but apparently they are not yet problem free either
[07:11] <tsdgeos> oh shit, konsole is now crashing on startup :S
 Tsdgeos what versions
[07:29] <tsdgeos> yakkety
[07:29] <tsdgeos> i think something new in qt landed with qtdbusmenu support that only crashes/happens if running konsole in unity
[07:46] <acheronuk> tsdgeos: sounds another symptom of what was discussed here https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2016/09/07/%23kubuntu-devel.html#t01:00
[07:46] <tsdgeos> acheronuk: the backtrace looks different to me
[07:46] <tsdgeos> but can be
[07:47] <tsdgeos> also vlc crashing is not nice either
 Albert you reported that in akamedy channel?
[07:47] <tsdgeos> i did ask Shawn that wrote the patches to be pinged for me, yes
 Rik what has dropped in yy recently?
[07:47] <tsdgeos> i did report it properly in launchpad
[07:47] <tsdgeos> Shawn wrote the patches AFAIK
[07:47] <tsdgeos> may be wrong
[07:48] <acheronuk> clivejo: I saw the Qt updates at least
 Ive no access to a system
 Who uploaded?
[07:50] <acheronuk> xorg update I think and gcc as well?
[07:51] <tsdgeos> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qtbase-opensource-src/+bug/1620937 for the bug
[07:51] <acheronuk> Mirv for the qt stuff I think. or a least some of it
[07:55] <tsdgeos> yeah talked to him already
[07:56] <mitya57> tsdgeos, that code is mine, looking
[07:56] <tsdgeos> mitya57: oh ok, somehow i thought Shawn had been working on it
[07:56] <tsdgeos> sorry for the confusion :)
[07:57] <mitya57> Some part was written by Shawn, yes
[07:57] <mitya57> But I was one who broke the Ubuntu package ;)
[08:09] <mitya57> tsdgeos, this is on Unity, not Plasma, right?
 (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/8poaScgL/file_380.jpg
 Valorie in the mornings :p
[08:11] <tsdgeos> mitya57: yes
[08:12] <acheronuk> konsole is certainly fine in plasma here
[08:12] <mitya57> Right, because Plasma has its own platform theme
[08:13] <mitya57> On Unity the workaround will be using appmenu-qt5, until I fix the bug
[08:14] <tsdgeos> nope
[08:14] <tsdgeos> doesn't work
[08:14] <tsdgeos> already tried
[08:20] <mitya57> tsdgeos, that sounds strange. Did you export QT_QPA_PLATFORM=appmenu-qt5?
[08:20] <mitya57> Sorry, I meant QT_QPA_PLATFORMTHEME=appmenu-qt5
[08:21] <tsdgeos> i did
[08:21] <tsdgeos> but obviously i did it wrong
[08:21] <tsdgeos> since now it's working :D
[08:56] <mitya57> tsdgeos, is it easy for you to test a patch?
[08:57] <tsdgeos> mitya57: sure
[08:58] <mitya57> tsdgeos, then please try this http://paste.ubuntu.com/23145023/ (with QT_QPA_PLATFORMTHEME unset)
[09:13] <tsdgeos> mitya57: ok, will take a while, qt takes time to compile :D
[09:14] <mitya57> I just realized that my local Qt build is 5.7.1, not 5.6, so I'm not able to start Konsole with it
[09:16]  * mitya57 compiles 5.6
[09:32] <clivejo_bearlin> good morning kubuntu peeps
[09:34] <lordievader> o/
[09:34] <clivejo_bearlin> hi lordievader, how are you?
[09:35] <lordievader> Doing good here :)
[09:35] <lordievader> Playing with powermanagement.
[09:35] <clivejo_bearlin> eakk
 Morning
[09:35] <Vorap> Morning
[09:35] <clivejo_bearlin> hi Vorap & Rik
[09:35] <Vorap> Hey clivejo_bearlin
[09:36] <clivejo_bearlin> how you guys doing?
[09:36] <Vorap> I am fine, in school right now, and you?
 The akademy morining looking interesting
 Looks
[09:37] <clivejo_bearlin> Im good
[09:37] <clivejo_bearlin> Im outside
[09:37] <clivejo_bearlin> not having a laptop cant really take part in the BoF's
 Shame
[09:38] <clivejo_bearlin> so thought Id come online and annoy you guys
[09:39] <clivejo_bearlin> robbed Grannies laptop
 Going to fix that up?
[09:39] <clivejo_bearlin> fix what?
 Thought valorie had a spare you could sort to use for there
[09:40] <clivejo_bearlin> nope
 Must has misread
[09:40] <clivejo_bearlin> Phil had a baby laptop
[09:41] <clivejo_bearlin> bu he had to leave :(
[09:41] <clivejo_bearlin> we miss him
 Yeah. Big shame he could not stay. :/
[09:47] <tsdgeos> mitya57: are you convinced it's the same bug? stacktraces are totally different
[09:48] <tsdgeos> mitya57: and quassel works for me :D
[09:48] <mitya57> tsdgeos, maybe the stacktraces are different, but my patch can fix the other bug too :)
[09:51] <mitya57> tsdgeos, oh, you were right, I looked at the line number and they are different bugs
[09:51] <mitya57> Unlinking
[09:59] <clivejo_bearlin> did someone say that favourites are now working in YY daily?
[09:59] <clivejo_bearlin> hi soee 
[09:59] <soee> hiho
[10:00] <clivejo_bearlin> mmmmm
[10:00] <clivejo_bearlin> do I want to go see peacocks on an island
[10:01] <clivejo_bearlin> discisions discisions
[10:12] <clivejo_bearlin> ovidiu-florin: where are you?
 @tsimonq2 do you want to do this ^ ?
 clivejo_bearlin in room 17
[10:32] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[10:33] <soee_> hiho BluesKaj
[10:35] <BluesKaj> hey soee_
[10:37] <mparillo> clivejo_bearlin: Yes. I said that maybe three days ago when I saw (zsync) the first updates to the daily ISO in what might have been weeks. Then I got a new daily yesterday, and they were still there.
[11:04] <soee_> rofl
[11:04] <soee_> using Amarok to listen to radio stream - amarok uses ~ 450 MB
[11:04] <soee_> using Clementine - it use ~ 60 MB ...
[11:34] <tsdgeos> mitya57: it's better now, btu still crashes on exit
[11:34] <tsdgeos> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23145460/
[11:34] <tsdgeos> food!
[11:45] <jimarvan> soee_: I guess amarok is dead s/w :(
[11:45] <soee_> there was some new release planned i think
[12:45] <blaze> acheronuk: ho
[12:45] <blaze> *hi
[12:45] <blaze> acheronuk: i did a merge propose, what next?
[12:45] <mitya57> tsdgeos, thanks, looking further
[12:45] <acheronuk> blaze: afternoon :)
[12:48] <acheronuk> blaze: someone with more developer authority that me will have to review it. most of those are at KDE akademy in Berlin this week, or just back from it, so might take a little while at the moment
[12:50]  * clifford dances
[12:50] <blaze> :O
[12:50] <blaze> okay :)
[12:51]  * acheronuk wonders why clive is dancing
[12:53] <clifford> felt like it
[12:53] <acheronuk> apparently according to sitter today they have gone to the 'cockisland' https://akademy.kde.org/2016/daytrip
[12:53] <clifford> yup
[12:54] <clifford> to see the Peacocks
[12:54] <clifford> sitter is just crude
[12:55] <acheronuk> so it seems. lol
[12:55] <clifford> we stayed at the uni to hack
[12:56] <clifford> Ovi has been doing some trello stuff and chatting to KDE peeps
[12:56] <clifford> does anyone know if there is a KF5 gui for firewall in Plasma 5 system settings?
[12:57] <acheronuk> More constructive than harassing Peacocks
 No. That's one of the trello cards we looked at
 (UFW)
[12:57] <clifford> yeah, hes been chatting some devs here and someone might look at doing that
[12:59] <acheronuk> old one that must have been Qt4 I suppose
[12:59] <clifford> yup
[12:59] <clifford> needs porting to kf5
[13:00] <clifford> blaze: is that something you might be interested in - https://quickgit.kde.org/?p=ufw-kde.git
[13:00] <acheronuk> you haven't by chance found someone who can fix the installer?
[13:00] <clifford> blaze has been working on it
[13:01] <clifford> but ovidiu-florin and i tried to build the source but there was errors
[13:01] <clifford> then we got distracted elsewhere
[13:01] <clifford> failing on the tests i think
[13:02] <acheronuk> I keep thinking of looking, but honestly it looks like no fun!
[13:02] <jimarvan> o/
[13:02] <jimarvan> acheronuk: :)
[13:03] <acheronuk> Hi jimarvan :D
[13:03] <jimarvan> i heard about an installer issue
[13:03] <jimarvan> :P
[13:03] <jimarvan> hehe :D
[13:03] <jimarvan> sorry man was away for 3 weeks on a beach
[13:03] <acheronuk> lucky you!
[13:03] <jimarvan> I really got to do at least the fix for the kubuntu installer :)
[13:04] <jimarvan> are the guys around during the weekend?
[13:04] <jimarvan> so I can start looking into it?
[13:04] <clifford> blaze has been working on it
[13:04] <jimarvan> ah awesome! :D
[13:04] <acheronuk> blaze & ahoneybun have been trying
[13:05] <jimarvan> hmm right now they deactivated the flash animation right?
[13:05] <jimarvan> so if I can reproduce the same presentation using HTML5 should be easy to render it back in...
[13:06] <jimarvan> definetely worths out a look :D
[13:06] <blaze> clifford: I think it should work atm, but the packaging itself is very tricky
[13:06] <jimarvan> really?
[13:06] <acheronuk> the slideshow package was removed from the iso, yes
[13:06] <jimarvan> ye i remember clive telling me about it
[13:07] <jimarvan> hmm
[13:07] <jimarvan> hehe I will free my weekend :P
[13:07] <jimarvan> the installer of kubuntu has any other issues?
[13:07] <jimarvan> works from windows etc?
[13:09] <acheronuk> I vaguely recall some issue with some locales being mentioned the other day, but not sure if that was kubuntu or just a general ubiquity issue for YY?
[13:10] <jimarvan> hmm ye i remember that too
[13:10] <jimarvan> hmm
[13:11] <jimarvan> question, when the 16.10 packaging will be locked?
[13:11] <jimarvan> to see how much time I have to do some tweaking stuff
 Final freeze is around final beta time
[13:12] <acheronuk> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YakketyYak/ReleaseSchedule
 And to whoever asked about plasma 5.7.4, we can upload that at any time
 Bugfixes don't require ffe's
[13:13] <acheronuk> mamarley I think
[13:13] <jimarvan> awesome! thanks yofel! :D
[13:13] <jimarvan> October 6th, plenty of time
[13:14] <mamarley> yofel: acheronuk: Yep, that was me.  Sounds like a great idea! :)
 Rewriting ubiquity needs an ffe though ^^
[13:14] <jimarvan> :D
[13:14] <acheronuk> and a fair bit of testing I presume
 Slideshow one could argue is a "bugfix"
[13:17] <blaze> I tried to package ubiquity last weekend and failed utterly
[13:18] <blaze> we need someone who usually does this stuff to help
[13:18] <acheronuk> why did that fail? it's doesn't look the most intuitive thing to understand and build
[13:19] <clivejo_bearlin> dunno what it was failing over
 cyphermox_ or so might know who to ask. There is also #ubuntu-installer
[13:19] <santa_> yofel: I still have 3 patches for apps 16.04.3 bit rotting in launchpad
[13:20] <santa_> https://code.launchpad.net/~panfaust/kubuntu-packaging/+git/kde4libs/+merge/303245
[13:20] <santa_> https://code.launchpad.net/~panfaust/kubuntu-packaging/+git/akonadi/+merge/303187
[13:20] <santa_> https://code.launchpad.net/~panfaust/kubuntu-packaging/+git/libksane/+merge/302979
 I know please ask someone else. Sorry
[13:20] <santa_> clivejo_bearlin: ↑
 I wont be doing much packaging for the time being
[13:21] <clivejo_bearlin> Im currently away from my packaging environment
 bbl
[13:26] <acheronuk> I'm *hoping* I can get stuck into looking at some stuff that needs doing later this week and the weekend. 
 @CliffordTheBigRedDoggie, Only until coffee!
[14:14] <acheronuk> clivejo_bearlin: done as requested
[14:16] <clivejo_bearlin> all?
[14:16] <acheronuk> those 3
[14:16] <clivejo_bearlin> is that the reason for failure?
[14:17] <acheronuk> the merge to unstable? I expect so. was just going to have a look
[14:17] <clivejo_bearlin> missing dep
[14:18] <clivejo_bearlin> kf5crash
 stop breaking stuff people
 😜
[14:19] <clivejo_bearlin> for you to fix !!
[14:19] <clivejo_bearlin> ninja ovi
[14:21] <acheronuk> KCI was getting too fixed anyway!
[14:22] <jimarvan> :D
[14:23]  * acheronuk goes to make a BIG pot of coffee
[14:30]  * genii follows acheronuk to wherever the coffee is
[14:38]  * jimarvan goes to make tea
[14:48] <clivejo_bearlin> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCgncn-1wCQ
[14:48] <clivejo_bearlin> KDE Store announcement and talk ^
[14:49] <acheronuk> cool. I'll watch that later
 We're watching it now! Thanks to @ovidiuflorin
[15:55] <marco-parillo> Has anybody tried to install today's YY image in a VM? I seemed to just get a flashing cursor on a black background.
[16:08] <jimarvan> leaving office see ya later peeps!!! :D
[16:08] <jimarvan> clivejo: thanks for the youtuble link, going to watch it afterwards :)
[18:38] <ahoneybun> mm
 Mmmmmm
 Lasagna
 that's Garfield
[19:39] <ahoneybun> clivejo, we need a picture for the Kubuntu Team page
[19:39] <ahoneybun> you too tsimonq2 
[20:00] <acheronuk> nearly forgot that
[20:00]  * acheronuk yawns
 We should add acheronuk too
 @ovidiuflorin not now
 @ovidiuflorin ask me again in a month if I'm still alive and around :P
[20:09] <acheronuk> lol. planing something dangerous?
 Surgery
 Don't mind my nerves :P
[20:10] <acheronuk> oh. didn't know. sorry
 Ooh :D :P
 @ahoneybun HEY YOU *kick*
 :P
 Kubuntu.org is really slow on mobile
 Fix it :P
 So @tsimonq2 ?
 Your both work on Kubuntu
 And I have an SVG for my hackergotchi that you can grab :P
 Most of the people on the page are not developers
 Well that's a checklist item
 Add Clive as a developer
 B/
 *:/
 @ahoneybun fix it :P
 You can as well ;p
 Well I'm on mobile
 So nope
 Trello app!
 No option to edit
 (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/aDx5LK8e/file_391.jpg
 Lies just did it now
 What about Rik?
 (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/ARJIU0GT/file_393.jpg Screenshot (Sep 7, 2016 4:22:44 PM)
 I would like to add Rik
 Stop that
 I did not do that
 Me
 ?
 (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/Gc0Ijt3i/file_395.jpg
 @ahoneybun see what's wrong?
 Clive is next to me right now. He does *not* want his photo on the site Ovidiu does not either
 I'm fine with a photo
 (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/8Lk0Nspl/file_397.jpg
 Nope
 Don't see what's wrong
 @ahoneybun, sgclack
 And?
 @ahoneybun, It's sgclark
 I'm not touching that one till I talk to her
 @CliffordTheBigRedDoggie @Valoriez I was joking I'll use the default Breeze icon for him and @ovidiuflorin
 If I end up on there, no picture for me either
 @ahoneybun you can leave my picture
 It was a mistake from @Valoriez
 @ahoneybun add Clive with the kubuntu logo
 Yes Rik is not a member but he's a ninja
 Right @acheronuk?
 Loo
 *lol
 (Sticker, 218x512) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/GaTIbSjJ/file_398.webp
 ?
 I thought we need a woman here :)
 we do
 @Valoriez
 @Valoriez
 Everybody ping @Valoriez lol
 What happened to Eve that showed up here some time ago?
 @marcinsagol, *shrug*
 /me breaks site
 *kick*
 /me whips @ahoneybun with a plastic chicken
 this is getting really weird
 So say hi to @ovidiuflorin Mr. Site Breaker :P
 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/Nfat0nr2/file_399.webp
 /me watching Rambo First Blood than Saw III ... 🙈
 @CliffordTheBigRedDoggie ruff ruff
 Wuff
 🐶
 Many performance fixes in Plasma 5.8. This one will be the best release so far
 (Document) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/RaD75rI5/file_400.mp4
 https://media.giphy.com/media/jdYJZpwtkk9Ta/giphy.gif
[21:26] <ahoneybun> so we have 5.7.3 or so in Xenial?
 Yofel was doing a tracker for the 5.7.x backports to check what breaks
[21:35] <acheronuk> I lost track a bit on what the status of those was, but I think most things that broke as a result could be rebuilt or copied from elsewhere to fix
 @acheronuk @Valoriez @CliffordTheBigRedDoggie why am I the only ninja that's okay with getting a pic?!? :P
 /me kicks @ahoneybun
 @ahoneybun update the site!
 never
 Yes
 Now
 Lol
 You could but a link to the ninjas lp page
 RIGHT AARON? :P
 @ahoneybun
 Backports were missing translations and there was problem with discover-common
 @ahoneybun fix the site
 I had no information that those were fixed sine I last tested it on xenial
 I will kick
 Once people are back from akademy etc need to get a few things like that sorted I think
 @ahoneybun, Fix the site
 /me wonders if he should install a daily iso on his main machine
 @ahoneybun, Fix the site
 stop
 Someone said daily was broken with a black screen again
 yesterday's one was not
 a gcc and cpp issue though
 @ahoneybun, If you would fix the site I would stop bothering you :P
 immature I know
[21:55] <tsimonq2> WTH
[21:55] <ahoneybun> told ya ;p
[21:55] <tsimonq2> no warning
[21:56] <ahoneybun> "I will kick" is not one?
[21:56] <tsimonq2> I need to access this channel from Telegram
[21:56] <tsimonq2> no
[21:56] <tsimonq2> I thought you meant you would kick back :P
 Last time I checked it was
[21:57] <ahoneybun> oh I did
[21:57] <ahoneybun> hard
 @acheronuk, I didn't interpret it as one
 If nothing silly happens to get in my way, I should have time to later in the week to do few test installs etc to see where things are
 @ahoneybun hamburger menu is misaligned
 (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/80h20Tul/file_402.jpg
 /me whispers "fix the site"
 Are you serious?
 100^
 *100%
 Even scrolling down
 (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/qbdLw3xi/file_404.jpg
 @ahoneybun ^
 This is getting super annoying
 I'm warning you
 Dude
 I'm telling you what's wrong
 And I'm asking you to fix it.
 @ahoneybun, It's you, not me.
 Fill out the trello
 I can't just drop my everything to fix it
 So stop repeating it
 Can hardly notice it here
 How does that relate to the team.page
 @ahoneybun, You told me to...
 /me can't leave this group as it deletes it...
 Move that to its own card under website feedback @tsimonq2
 @ahoneybun, OK as you say
 Lol
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCgncn-1wCQ
 (Document) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/yPqCcBTz/file_406.mp4
 @ahoneybun, Lol I win
 XD
 That's not winning
 It's being a huge pain in my
[22:43] <keithzg> clivejo: 5.7.2 backport still need testing? Just got the final part necessary in at the office to boot up the new server for work, it's all ready to be used as a Kubuntu testbed while I wait for the *rest* of the parts to actually press it into office service :)
[22:45] <keithzg> ...or maybe I'm not ready, since apparently I can't click "continue" on the "Preparing to Install Kubuntu" page from the 16.04.1 installer. Huh.
 To small partition/virtual disk?
[22:50] <keithzg> I mean, I haven't gotten to the part where you actually even look at possible partitions . . .
[22:50] <keithzg> This is just the page where you choose whether or not to download updates or install possibly proprietary bits.
[22:51] <acheronuk> How big is the disk?
[22:51] <keithzg> 120GB
[22:52] <keithzg> Or if you mean the thumb drive it's running from, 8GB
[22:55] <keithzg> It'd be pretty weird if the size of the disk meant that I couldn't get *to* the disk setup screen, though, no?
[22:59] <acheronuk> Oddly, that is what ubiquity does. e.g. if you try to install on a VM with too small a disk, it will site there on it's initial screen with the buttons inactive. Odd way to code it!
[22:59] <keithzg> Huh.
[22:59] <keithzg> But it's not even the *initial* screen, I get to hit continue once before it stalls me.
[23:00] <keithzg> That's probably it though, then, I must've forgotten something or not quite seated the cables right.
[23:02] <acheronuk> People get it all the time trying to install on say virtualbox, and the default disk size for a ubuntu VM was set too small.
[23:02] <acheronuk> not saying it is that, but it's the first thing I would investigate
[23:05] <keithzg> Aha, well the damned angled SATA power cable definitely got pulled out when I closed the case apparently, so I bet that was indeed it.
[23:05] <keithzg> Well damn, it was a good long run but I guess I finally have something bad to say personally about Ubiquity.
[23:06] <keithzg> (although maybe I'm forgetting some rough patches in the mid/late 00's, heh)
[23:08] <keithzg> Yup, that did the trick, thanks acheronuk and marcinsagol
[23:09] <acheronuk> Not quite the bug I was thinking of then, but same symptom. i.e. no useful error message to tell you what is wrong!