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akxwi-davewooo hoooo a black top menu on the login screen for todays iso..... Thanks...09:19
flocculantslideshow's back too11:18
flocculantstill the other issues in the installer though11:18
bluesabresounds promising11:46
bluesabreI11:46
bluesabreI'll be scheduling the meeting today for Friday at 22:00, pretty sure I should have an availability then11:46
knome:)11:47
bluesabrebbl11:47
flocculantakxwi-dave: seems the tracker's stopped seeing 'reported bugs' 15:42
flocculantso if it's still like that we'll need to make sure release note is up to date before we do the beta15:43
akxwi-davedeffo15:43
flocculantgot a quiet weekend coming up - I'll try and set some time by to do that, then you can see if you think it's missing anything15:44
akxwi-davewill do...15:52
flocculantthanks :)15:52
flocculantnot sure where the release note will be though ...15:52
flocculantknome: remind me why you and I decided not to have release note on wiki.u.c - was it 'includes' ?15:54
flocculantI think I will relegate the shutdown/restart bug to a comment - it's been on release note for as long as I remember and is still an issue15:56
flocculant^^ isn't for k. nome but for akxwi-dave :)15:57
flocculantbiab15:58
akxwi-davekk15:58
flocculantknome: given you're after bluesabre chairing - you likely to call meeting pre-beta? (which would be next week)16:02
flocculantand that chairing list on wiki needs sorting out16:02
knomeflocculant, i can do that if needed, sure17:34
flocculantknome: either that or we can beta this Friday - either works for me17:34
knomei've just eaten so all of my blood is in the stomach so brain no work17:36
flocculantlol17:37
Unit193ochosi: You're not waiting on me for anything right?20:38
ochosiUnit193: eh, context pls20:39
ochosii was afk for some days and didnt sleep much20:39
ochosiso some things may have been lost in my backlog20:39
Unit193I think I did ping you on silly things, but yeah this is the context, just making sure I've not forgotten anything.20:39
ochosihah20:40
ochosiright, you said something about the artwork bumping for 16.1020:40
Unit193Only thing I see: 01:09:35 < Unit193> ochosi: Uh, never bumped the artwork for 16.10? :)20:40
Unit193Yeah. :P20:40
ochosi:]20:40
ochosii can do that quickly20:40
ochosiUnit193, bluesabre: bumped artwork stuff for 16.10, you may want to push that one out as 16.10.020:45
Unit193I have to do something about that? :320:50
* Unit193 wonders where 16.04.2 went...21:04
Unit193bluesabre: Looks like you never pushed 16.04.2??21:07
* ochosi sits back and enjoys21:09
Unit193bluesabre: You fired! :P21:09
Unit193ochosi: Fixitfixitfixitfixit!21:10
Unit193Only in xubuntu-artwork-16.04.2/usr/share/icons/elementary-xfce-dark/panel/16: nm-vpn-connecting12.png, etc.21:10
ochosihehe, maybe after i decide what to do about notifyd ;)21:11
Unit193OK, I don't know how to bzr, I have things committed now too (but as of yet unpushed.)21:11
bluesabreoh wow21:39
bluesabrewonder why I failed :D21:39
ochosibluesabre: time to set the record straight then ;)21:41
ochosibtw, we have a patched notifyd in ubuntu, right?21:41
ochosisomehow the one on git.xfce still doesn't support pulseaudio and stuff21:41
ochosicause i wanted to patch it to check for symbolic audio icons in the icon theme and then use that21:42
ochosiin other news, some ppl seem to have found a fix for the thunar rename bug (not sure that's true, but let's just keep our hopes up), there's even a PPA https://launchpad.net/~yuri-sucupira/+archive/ubuntu/thunar1.6.10-patched21:43
ochosior in fact this seems to be it: https://launchpad.net/~yuri-sucupira/+archive/ubuntu/thunar1.6.10-fix21:45
ochosianyway, for those of you who know how to reproduce the bug (i don't), please give it a spin21:46
ochosiflocculant: ^21:46
bluesabreI can reproduce it, will check tonight21:46
ochosinice21:48
bluesabreochosi, no patch on notifyd that would add pulseaudio21:48
bluesabrejust a tweak for the smoke theme21:48
ochosierrr, i meant volumed21:48
ochosirly, what tweak?21:48
ochosii can move it upstream if it makes sense, then we can get rid of it21:49
bluesabre!info xfce4-volumed21:49
ubottuxfce4-volumed (source: xfce4-volumed): volume keys daemon. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.0-0ubuntu2 (yakkety), package size 12 kB, installed size 85 kB21:49
ochosiiirc mr_pouit forked it at some point21:50
bluesabreadds to gtkrc21:50
bluesabre+    XfceNotifyWindow::summary-bold = 121:50
Unit193Yeah, hence the version.21:50
ochosiand sidi was too lazy to merge it back21:50
Unit193s/\ to.*//21:50
bluesabre:D21:50
ochosibluesabre: so that patch is only for smoke or also default?21:50
Unit193can bzr do  bzr pull --rebase ?21:50
bluesabreochosi, seems to be just Smoke21:51
ochosiok, it'll be obsolete with 0.3.*21:51
bluesabrefigured as much :)21:51
ochosiwell it's integrated now, not just obsolete because of gtk3 ;)21:52
bluesabregotcha :D21:52
bluesabreochosi, so, you going to merge volumed back in?21:53
ochosimeh, why do *i* have to do everything? :/21:53
bluesabreor truly fork it into a new beast21:53
ochosino, actually i think i'll poke sidi until he does it finally21:53
Unit193Because you're our Xfce contact, ochosi!21:53
bluesabreochosi, I'm not a git admin ;)21:53
ochosibluesabre: if you want push rights... ;)21:53
bluesabre(and don't have notifyd)21:53
bluesabre(and don't want it)21:54
bluesabres/notify/volume/21:54
ochosivolumed you mean?21:54
bluesabreindeedly doodly21:54
ochosiso no audio notifications for you..?21:55
bluesabreI mean, no git access to volumed, etc21:55
* bluesabre is super confusing currently21:56
ochosiyeah, indeed21:56
ochosi:p21:56
ochosianyway, we can leave it to sidi21:56
bluesabrewoo sidi!21:56
sidiochosi, hiya21:56
sidibluesabre, hello21:56
bluesabrehey sidi21:56
Unit193bluesabre: Did you/we want to PPA the experimental releases of xfd?21:57
sidiguys i am so having a crisis right now, please tell me you dont have urgent work for me21:57
sidioh alsa volumed21:57
sidiguy who said he'd do it ghosted i think21:57
ochosiwell, no, pulse volumed ;)21:57
ochosiand all i want is to get the stuff from LP back to git.xfce.org21:57
sidiah i dont do that, i think lionel had the code21:57
Unit193What's the point of that if xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin? :P21:57
sidiUnit193, keyboard shortcuts + notification?21:58
sidiif the plugin does the kb shortcuts then it'd be easier to make it do the notifications too21:58
sidithough21:58
ochosisidi: yeah, that plugin also has the grabs21:58
sidinot everyone uses a panel21:58
bluesabreoh yeah21:58
sidii think that was one of the points made by Jannis originally21:58
ochosiyeah sure21:58
sidii have an important meeting tomorrow, would you like to catch me later this week? is there any emergency for you guys or a deadline coming up?21:59
ochosino, no worries. this can wait21:59
ochosiall i want is symbolic icons for the notifications ;)21:59
bluesabreUnit193, we can do that, or just add it to the daily packages to reduce work with each exp. release21:59
Unit193bluesabre: Eh, if we go with releases we can use the normal 'extras' PPA.22:00
ochosisidi: i can later send you a patch for that, but i would prefer to know against what codebase and merging volumed-pulse to volumed would be great (maybe with a compile-time switch?)22:00
sidiochosi, the thing is they are truly different beasts, and i was gonna burn volumed (original) once i had a libalsa codebase22:00
sidii guess i just have to sit down and do it but the PhD takes absolute precedence, + paper deadline coming up for CHI22:01
sidii would say the best is to make a new project on the Xfce git with Lionel's stuff22:01
sidiand let volumed rot in its corner until I graduate :|22:01
ochosiright, that would be an alternative if you don't wanna make your stuff (which will also likely end up a truly different beast - am i right? :)) a new project *if* it ever happens.. ;) 22:02
sidimy libalsa "fork" would be a new project based on the current pulse plugins of all sorts and maybe on mixer22:03
sidiit's also not totally an emergency for me, the sandbox needs publishing, and i have a few other things down the line22:03
sidiI feel like I need to find a sponsor to let me Xfce all day -___-22:03
ochosiso you'd just leave volumed as it is and we'll move it to archive later..?22:03
ochosisidi: well there's the bountysource donation money if you're really committed... but i guess we would have to discuss with the "team" what work would be priority #122:04
bluesabrethat sounds sane to me22:04
bluesabremove the lp stuff to git.xfce as xfce4-volumed-pulse or pulsed or something to that extent22:04
sidiochosi, I would extremely very seriously consider this22:05
sidii do want to have a research break after the PhD too :-)22:05
bluesabre:)22:05
ochosisidi: well if that's the case then think about how much money you need for a month of working on xfce22:05
ochosiand i guess the best would be if you just send a proposal to the ML22:05
sidiyup. i'll look into this in 2017 :-)22:08
ochosihey - don't rush things!22:08
ochosi;)22:08
bluesabre:D22:10
ochosimeh, there are even two branches ready for merging :'(22:12
ochosihttps://code.launchpad.net/xfce4-volumed-pulse22:12
bluesabresome of those might be included as patches in ubuntu22:16
ochosiyeah, probably ali's patch22:16
bluesabrethe fork-before-gtk-init patch is22:16
bluesabrethat22:16
ochosiso i guess that one should be pushed to git as well22:17
ochosiand the LP project should be shut down as soon as it the code is moved22:17
ochosior at least the gitorious URL should be replaced22:17
bluesabreyup22:18
bluesabrewe'll have to reach out to lionel to move that to xubuntu-dev22:18
bluesabregotta run, bbl22:18
ochosiyeah, gotta get some sleep22:19
ochosinight22:19

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