[09:19] wooo hoooo a black top menu on the login screen for todays iso..... Thanks... [11:18] slideshow's back too [11:18] still the other issues in the installer though [11:46] sounds promising [11:46] I [11:46] I'll be scheduling the meeting today for Friday at 22:00, pretty sure I should have an availability then [11:47] :) [11:47] bbl [15:42] akxwi-dave: seems the tracker's stopped seeing 'reported bugs' [15:43] so if it's still like that we'll need to make sure release note is up to date before we do the beta [15:43] deffo [15:44] got a quiet weekend coming up - I'll try and set some time by to do that, then you can see if you think it's missing anything [15:52] will do... [15:52] thanks :) [15:52] not sure where the release note will be though ... [15:54] knome: remind me why you and I decided not to have release note on wiki.u.c - was it 'includes' ? [15:56] I think I will relegate the shutdown/restart bug to a comment - it's been on release note for as long as I remember and is still an issue [15:57] ^^ isn't for k. nome but for akxwi-dave :) [15:58] biab [15:58] kk [16:02] knome: given you're after bluesabre chairing - you likely to call meeting pre-beta? (which would be next week) [16:02] and that chairing list on wiki needs sorting out [17:34] flocculant, i can do that if needed, sure [17:34] knome: either that or we can beta this Friday - either works for me [17:36] i've just eaten so all of my blood is in the stomach so brain no work [17:37] lol [20:38] ochosi: You're not waiting on me for anything right? [20:39] Unit193: eh, context pls [20:39] i was afk for some days and didnt sleep much [20:39] so some things may have been lost in my backlog [20:39] I think I did ping you on silly things, but yeah this is the context, just making sure I've not forgotten anything. [20:40] hah [20:40] right, you said something about the artwork bumping for 16.10 [20:40] Only thing I see: 01:09:35 < Unit193> ochosi: Uh, never bumped the artwork for 16.10? :) [20:40] Yeah. :P [20:40] :] [20:40] i can do that quickly [20:45] Unit193, bluesabre: bumped artwork stuff for 16.10, you may want to push that one out as 16.10.0 [20:50] I have to do something about that? :3 [21:04] * Unit193 wonders where 16.04.2 went... [21:07] bluesabre: Looks like you never pushed 16.04.2?? [21:09] * ochosi sits back and enjoys [21:09] bluesabre: You fired! :P [21:10] ochosi: Fixitfixitfixitfixit! [21:10] Only in xubuntu-artwork-16.04.2/usr/share/icons/elementary-xfce-dark/panel/16: nm-vpn-connecting12.png, etc. [21:11] hehe, maybe after i decide what to do about notifyd ;) [21:11] OK, I don't know how to bzr, I have things committed now too (but as of yet unpushed.) [21:39] oh wow [21:39] wonder why I failed :D [21:41] bluesabre: time to set the record straight then ;) [21:41] btw, we have a patched notifyd in ubuntu, right? [21:41] somehow the one on git.xfce still doesn't support pulseaudio and stuff [21:42] cause i wanted to patch it to check for symbolic audio icons in the icon theme and then use that [21:43] in other news, some ppl seem to have found a fix for the thunar rename bug (not sure that's true, but let's just keep our hopes up), there's even a PPA https://launchpad.net/~yuri-sucupira/+archive/ubuntu/thunar1.6.10-patched [21:45] or in fact this seems to be it: https://launchpad.net/~yuri-sucupira/+archive/ubuntu/thunar1.6.10-fix [21:46] anyway, for those of you who know how to reproduce the bug (i don't), please give it a spin [21:46] flocculant: ^ [21:46] I can reproduce it, will check tonight [21:48] nice [21:48] ochosi, no patch on notifyd that would add pulseaudio [21:48] just a tweak for the smoke theme [21:48] errr, i meant volumed [21:48] rly, what tweak? [21:49] i can move it upstream if it makes sense, then we can get rid of it [21:49] !info xfce4-volumed [21:49] xfce4-volumed (source: xfce4-volumed): volume keys daemon. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.0-0ubuntu2 (yakkety), package size 12 kB, installed size 85 kB [21:50] iirc mr_pouit forked it at some point [21:50] adds to gtkrc [21:50] + XfceNotifyWindow::summary-bold = 1 [21:50] Yeah, hence the version. [21:50] and sidi was too lazy to merge it back [21:50] s/\ to.*// [21:50] :D [21:50] bluesabre: so that patch is only for smoke or also default? [21:50] can bzr do bzr pull --rebase ? [21:51] ochosi, seems to be just Smoke [21:51] ok, it'll be obsolete with 0.3.* [21:51] figured as much :) [21:52] well it's integrated now, not just obsolete because of gtk3 ;) [21:52] gotcha :D [21:53] ochosi, so, you going to merge volumed back in? [21:53] meh, why do *i* have to do everything? :/ [21:53] or truly fork it into a new beast [21:53] no, actually i think i'll poke sidi until he does it finally [21:53] Because you're our Xfce contact, ochosi! [21:53] ochosi, I'm not a git admin ;) [21:53] bluesabre: if you want push rights... ;) [21:53] (and don't have notifyd) [21:54] (and don't want it) [21:54] s/notify/volume/ [21:54] volumed you mean? [21:54] indeedly doodly [21:55] so no audio notifications for you..? [21:55] I mean, no git access to volumed, etc [21:56] * bluesabre is super confusing currently [21:56] yeah, indeed [21:56] :p [21:56] anyway, we can leave it to sidi [21:56] woo sidi! [21:56] ochosi, hiya [21:56] bluesabre, hello [21:56] hey sidi [21:57] bluesabre: Did you/we want to PPA the experimental releases of xfd? [21:57] guys i am so having a crisis right now, please tell me you dont have urgent work for me [21:57] oh alsa volumed [21:57] guy who said he'd do it ghosted i think [21:57] well, no, pulse volumed ;) [21:57] and all i want is to get the stuff from LP back to git.xfce.org [21:57] ah i dont do that, i think lionel had the code [21:57] What's the point of that if xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin? :P [21:58] Unit193, keyboard shortcuts + notification? [21:58] if the plugin does the kb shortcuts then it'd be easier to make it do the notifications too [21:58] though [21:58] sidi: yeah, that plugin also has the grabs [21:58] not everyone uses a panel [21:58] oh yeah [21:58] i think that was one of the points made by Jannis originally [21:58] yeah sure [21:59] i have an important meeting tomorrow, would you like to catch me later this week? is there any emergency for you guys or a deadline coming up? [21:59] no, no worries. this can wait [21:59] all i want is symbolic icons for the notifications ;) [21:59] Unit193, we can do that, or just add it to the daily packages to reduce work with each exp. release [22:00] bluesabre: Eh, if we go with releases we can use the normal 'extras' PPA. [22:00] sidi: i can later send you a patch for that, but i would prefer to know against what codebase and merging volumed-pulse to volumed would be great (maybe with a compile-time switch?) [22:00] ochosi, the thing is they are truly different beasts, and i was gonna burn volumed (original) once i had a libalsa codebase [22:01] i guess i just have to sit down and do it but the PhD takes absolute precedence, + paper deadline coming up for CHI [22:01] i would say the best is to make a new project on the Xfce git with Lionel's stuff [22:01] and let volumed rot in its corner until I graduate :| [22:02] right, that would be an alternative if you don't wanna make your stuff (which will also likely end up a truly different beast - am i right? :)) a new project *if* it ever happens.. ;) [22:03] my libalsa "fork" would be a new project based on the current pulse plugins of all sorts and maybe on mixer [22:03] it's also not totally an emergency for me, the sandbox needs publishing, and i have a few other things down the line [22:03] I feel like I need to find a sponsor to let me Xfce all day -___- [22:03] so you'd just leave volumed as it is and we'll move it to archive later..? [22:04] sidi: well there's the bountysource donation money if you're really committed... but i guess we would have to discuss with the "team" what work would be priority #1 [22:04] that sounds sane to me [22:04] move the lp stuff to git.xfce as xfce4-volumed-pulse or pulsed or something to that extent [22:05] ochosi, I would extremely very seriously consider this [22:05] i do want to have a research break after the PhD too :-) [22:05] :) [22:05] sidi: well if that's the case then think about how much money you need for a month of working on xfce [22:05] and i guess the best would be if you just send a proposal to the ML [22:08] yup. i'll look into this in 2017 :-) [22:08] hey - don't rush things! [22:08] ;) [22:10] :D [22:12] meh, there are even two branches ready for merging :'( [22:12] https://code.launchpad.net/xfce4-volumed-pulse [22:16] some of those might be included as patches in ubuntu [22:16] yeah, probably ali's patch [22:16] the fork-before-gtk-init patch is [22:16] that [22:17] so i guess that one should be pushed to git as well [22:17] and the LP project should be shut down as soon as it the code is moved [22:17] or at least the gitorious URL should be replaced [22:18] yup [22:18] we'll have to reach out to lionel to move that to xubuntu-dev [22:18] gotta run, bbl [22:19] yeah, gotta get some sleep [22:19] night