| IrcsomeBot | <tsimonq2> @acheronuk @CliffordTheBigRedDoggie @yofel I'd like to get the Backports PPA updated with Plasma 5.7.4, Frameworks 5.25.0, and Applications 16.08.0 (if possible) next week(end) when I'm done getting things together. A few questions: | 03:47 |
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| IrcsomeBot | <tsimonq2> | 03:47 |
| IrcsomeBot | <tsimonq2> 1. Do we have any technical limitations and if so what are they? | 03:47 |
| IrcsomeBot | <tsimonq2> 2. How hard is it to update this PPA with all the latest releases now and in the future? Do we face anything challenging in doing so? | 03:47 |
| IrcsomeBot | <tsimonq2> 3. What does the Updates PPA do and why is it not used for Xenial at the moment? | 03:47 |
| IrcsomeBot | <tsimonq2> 4. If this sounds reasonable, who's willing to help? :) | 03:47 |
| IrcsomeBot | <tsimonq2> night all o/ | 03:47 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ovidiuflorin> @tsimonq2 please stop trying to mess up Trello | 06:30 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ovidiuflorin> If you don't stop, I'll ban you from the board | 06:30 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ovidiuflorin> You need to be more careful when working with it | 06:31 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ovidiuflorin> Also, please be more considerate of other people | 06:31 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ovidiuflorin> Remember, we are all volunteers here, doing this for fun | 06:32 |
| lordievader | Good morning. | 07:17 |
| acheronuk | tsimonq2: I'm not sure all of those Xenial backports are entirely realistic for the backports ppa over one weekend, or even perhaps 2. However, yes, I think we need to push on with better updates for that and upgrade testing to make it a smooth and good transition | 08:28 |
| tsdgeos | mitya57: your dbusmenu patch is a bit confusing when run under unity7 though since now i get menus in the topbar *and* in the app window | 08:55 |
| tsdgeos | double the menus, double the fun! | 08:55 |
| tsdgeos | :D | 08:55 |
| mitya57 | tsdgeos, then you need also this: https://codereview.qt-project.org/170467 :) | 08:55 |
| mitya57 | Though my patch shouldn't have introduced that. Wasn't this already the case in Xenial? | 08:56 |
| tsdgeos | no because i never used appmenu-qt5 for this speficic reason :D | 08:57 |
| mitya57 | OK. I hope to get both patches into the next upload. Testing / +1-ing on codereview appreciated, of course. | 08:58 |
| tsdgeos | will try to test | 09:00 |
| tsdgeos | tx for the pointer | 09:00 |
| soee | hiho | 09:22 |
| blaze | yay, gnupg 2.1 is now default one! | 09:30 |
| blaze | I'm so happy | 09:31 |
| * acheronuk wonders if that will break his gpg-agent | 09:40 | |
| IrcsomeBot | <tsimonq2> @ovidiuflorin, ...an example would be nice... | 11:14 |
| BluesKaj | Hiyas all | 11:21 |
| santa_ | ahoneybun: when is the KC voting suposed to end sept 12th? because I have seen another mail saying | 11:48 |
| santa_ | The voting will go | 11:48 |
| santa_ | from that day till the 8th of Sept with the results being put out the next | 11:48 |
| santa_ | day (9th of Sept). | 11:48 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> Yes I know, it took a bit of time for me to find a way to get all the emails | 11:50 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> So I pushed it back a bit so people have time | 11:50 |
| santa_ | so its 12th | 11:51 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> Yep | 11:54 |
| santa_ | so I think I will send soon a doodle for the membership meeting covering dates from 15 to 22 | 11:58 |
| santa_ | any objections? | 11:58 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ovidiuflorin> 👍 | 12:52 |
| marco-parillo | I tried again with today's 64-bit daily ISO in a VM. I get a blank screen with a black breeze cursor, but nothing happens. I can <ctrl> <alt> <F1> to get a tty, and can login with kubuntu and an empty password and then sudo poweroff, so I guess the OS loads but not Plasma. Can anybody try to duplicate with today's image in a VM? Ideally VMware? | 13:30 |
| acheronuk | marco-parillo: can only try in VirtualBox. just zysncing | 13:32 |
| marco-parillo | TY | 13:32 |
| acheronuk | marco-parillo: It boots to a live session here rather than the welcome session with it's what do you want to do page, which is what it did before. You briefly see the welcome/intro session start, but it seems to crash out and go to a TTY. But plasma obviously restarts as you can switch back to TTY7 to find the full live session which must have spawned in the background | 13:44 |
| acheronuk | I guess in different VM methods, you might get it go a different way | 13:45 |
| acheronuk | clivejo: just testing the YY daily, and yes, the favourites in kicker are indeed back | 13:46 |
| marco-parillo | TY. So it might be a VMware problem. I actually prefer it goes straight to the live session, which eliminates a click one of my use cases for Kubuntu (read-only ISO for home banking). And on real HW with the image of just a couple of days ago, that worked fine. | 13:47 |
| acheronuk | I have a Xorg.0.log and Xorg.0.log.old, which certain confirms I had 2 sessions start. The first crashing, and then failing to switch VT | 13:49 |
| acheronuk | The end of the .old one http://i.imgur.com/Yt2VZSI.png | 13:50 |
| acheronuk | Oh, but you get the breeze cursor, so clearly not getting what I did. Sorry. | 13:53 |
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| === Guest66026 is now known as santa_ | ||
| tsdgeos | mitya57: that other patch for no double menubars seems to work well | 14:15 |
| tsdgeos | makes the "show menubar" option of some kxmlgui-based apps rather useless | 14:15 |
| tsdgeos | but that's another story | 14:15 |
| tsdgeos | i guess one should hide that action in the menus when using native menubars | 14:15 |
| santa_ | hmm | 14:19 |
| santa_ | https://telegram.me/joinchat/069abc1701c2ceae0e45bf81d458c9d1 | 14:19 |
| santa_ | ↑ apparently this link isn't working for me | 14:20 |
| santa_ | do we have a newer invitation link to the telegram group? | 14:20 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> To this telegram? | 14:24 |
| acheronuk | too late "santa_ has quit" | 14:25 |
| jimarvan | santa is back | 14:31 |
| acheronuk | santa_: the telegram for this channel specifically? | 14:31 |
| jimarvan | :D | 14:31 |
| santa_ | yeah, thanks for noticing XD | 14:32 |
| santa_ | I had to move | 14:32 |
| santa_ | acheronuk: yes, the telegram group for this channel | 14:32 |
| acheronuk | someone can add you, I know that. not sure about invite links | 14:33 |
| jimarvan | is our good old "good stuff" around? | 14:35 |
| jimarvan | xD | 14:35 |
| acheronuk | jimarvan: still on holiday maybe? | 14:36 |
| jimarvan | aha :D | 14:36 |
| jimarvan | he should come to cornwall | 14:36 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ovidiuflorin> Telegram link for this group https://telegram.me/joinchat/BwCsyj2agdiZ2So7j4NZYQ | 14:40 |
| IrcsomeBot | Santa was added by: Santa | 14:57 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Santa> Test | 14:57 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Santa> Great | 14:57 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Santa> Thanks for the link | 14:57 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ovidiuflorin> Please change your avatar to something family friendly | 14:57 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ovidiuflorin> You're welcome | 14:58 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Santa> Let me check what i have | 14:58 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Santa> Done | 15:05 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ovidiuflorin> Thank you | 15:13 |
| IrcsomeBot | <marcinsagol> You guys still at academy? | 15:24 |
| IrcsomeBot | <marcinsagol> *and ladies ;) | 15:24 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Santa> Not me, I Couldn't attend | 15:25 |
| IrcsomeBot | <marcinsagol> Meet The New Default Wallpaper of Ubuntu 16.10 - OMG! Ubuntu! | 15:28 |
| IrcsomeBot | <marcinsagol> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/09/ubuntu-16-10-default-wallpaper | 15:28 |
| IrcsomeBot | <marcinsagol> :) | 15:28 |
| acheronuk | I quite like that. For a ubuntu one | 15:28 |
| IrcsomeBot | <marcinsagol> Plasma default wallpapers 10x > ubuntu | 15:29 |
| IrcsomeBot | <marcinsagol> For me it is boring seeing almost the same each release there | 15:30 |
| IrcsomeBot | <CliffordTheBigRedDoggie> My last day | 15:37 |
| IrcsomeBot | <CliffordTheBigRedDoggie> Heading home tomorrow | 15:37 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Valoriez> Santa good to hear that you will apply soon | 15:46 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Valoriez> /me is heading home tomorrow as well -- at 4:15 am! | 15:46 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Valoriez> but I won't arrive home for another 30 hours or some crazy thing | 15:46 |
| IrcsomeBot | <acheronuk> What? Going via Australia? | 15:48 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Valoriez> Layover in Oslo | 16:02 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Valoriez> Also it's a long way from Berlin to Seattle, especially on the "cheapo" flights | 16:03 |
| blaze | I can reach Berlin in ~10hrs, but never been there :p | 16:45 |
| blaze | maybe even faster but anyways | 16:48 |
| soee_ | http://motorcykle.in/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/BMW-g310-top-speed-6.gif | 16:58 |
| IrcsomeBot | <tsimonq2> Lunch timw | 17:18 |
| IrcsomeBot | <tsimonq2> *time | 17:18 |
| IrcsomeBot | <tsimonq2> o/ | 17:18 |
| IrcsomeBot | <tsimonq2> @CliffordTheBigRedDoggie @acheronuk @Valoriez I found how we can see @yofel work and get all the protipz looool https://github.com/gravitational/teleconsole | 17:48 |
| IrcsomeBot | <tsimonq2> We should make him work in a terminal for the day :P | 17:50 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Valoriez> I'm pretty sure phil does most of his work in the terminal | 18:16 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Valoriez> aside from testing | 18:16 |
| tsimonq2 | hmmm | 22:33 |
| tsimonq2 | acheronuk: still around? | 22:33 |
| IrcsomeBot | <acheronuk> No. :P | 22:35 |
| IrcsomeBot | <tsimonq2> @acheronuk, Apps 16.04.3 needs a LOT of FFEs? | 22:35 |
| IrcsomeBot | <acheronuk> I have no idea if one can be done for the whole apps release or not | 22:37 |
| IrcsomeBot | <tsimonq2> @yofel @CliffordTheBigRedDoggie @acheronuk what's the plan for Apps 16.04.3 and Yakkety? | 22:37 |
| IrcsomeBot | <tsimonq2> just asked | 22:37 |
| IrcsomeBot | <tsimonq2> lol | 22:37 |
| IrcsomeBot | <tsimonq2> remember, WWYD? | 22:38 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> *WWPD | 22:38 |
| IrcsomeBot | <tsimonq2> I prefer to refer to him by his IRC nick | 22:39 |
| IrcsomeBot | <acheronuk> I think when everyone gets back from akademy we need to get on BBB and either find out what they decided or discussed, or have that discussion | 22:39 |
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| * tsimonq2 runs | 22:40 | |
| IrcsomeBot | <tsimonq2> @acheronuk, good idea | 22:40 |
| IrcsomeBot | <CliffordTheBigRedDoggie> Please stop pinging me. I'm trying to sleep | 22:43 |
| IrcsomeBot | <tsimonq2> Apologies | 22:44 |
| IrcsomeBot | <acheronuk> I imagine everyone at akademy had a long week, and it's nearly midnight on 1am europe time | 22:46 |
| IrcsomeBot | <tsimonq2> Ideally it could be a few hours with all the active ninjas, so we could consider doing the following: | 22:48 |
| IrcsomeBot | <tsimonq2> 1. Decide if we are gonna put the effort in or who's going to bribe the release team to get Apps 16.04.3 in Yakkety archive. | 22:48 |
| IrcsomeBot | <tsimonq2> 2. What is the plan for the backports PPA? | 22:48 |
| IrcsomeBot | <tsimonq2> 3. Yofl could teach us good techniques and what goes through his head when updating symbols (common references etc.) | 22:48 |
| IrcsomeBot | <tsimonq2> 4. Clive's Kubuntu Developer meeting. (if he wants to, but it would be a good idea if the session would be a couple hours :P) | 22:48 |
| IrcsomeBot | <tsimonq2> 5. Swap notes on Akademy topics. | 22:48 |
| IrcsomeBot | <tsimonq2> I mean it may be a shorter thing | 22:48 |
| IrcsomeBot | <tsimonq2> but there's a few things we really need to decide... | 22:48 |
| IrcsomeBot | <tsimonq2> including that, lolk | 22:49 |
| IrcsomeBot | <tsimonq2> *lol | 22:49 |
| IrcsomeBot | <tsimonq2> @acheronuk if that sounds reasonable to you, I can send an email with a Doodle | 22:50 |
| IrcsomeBot | <tsimonq2> (but just hinting at #4 :P) | 22:50 |
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| acheronuk | tsimonq2: maybe. honestly, I'm a little too tired to consider it tonight beyond what I've already said | 23:02 |
| acheronuk | zzzzzzzzzzz | 23:02 |
| tsimonq2 | acheronuk: fair enough | 23:02 |
| tsimonq2 | sucks I'm the only (active) ninja in the US :P | 23:03 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Santa> Simon | 23:17 |
| IrcsomeBot | <tsimonq2> @Santa, Santa | 23:18 |
| IrcsomeBot | <tsimonq2> oh, are you in the US? :D | 23:18 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Santa> I can help you with symbols files one of these days | 23:18 |
| IrcsomeBot | <tsimonq2> ooooooh :D | 23:18 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Santa> I'm not in the us | 23:18 |
| IrcsomeBot | <tsimonq2> oh ok :/ | 23:19 |
| IrcsomeBot | <tsimonq2> @Santa, http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_akonadi/\ | 23:19 |
| IrcsomeBot | <tsimonq2> I really want to see how that's done | 23:19 |
| IrcsomeBot | <tsimonq2> but unfortunately I'm not at my computer | 23:19 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Santa> Bur i'm in a bar where someone is singing "trolled in the us" | 23:19 |
| * acheronuk yawn - tell me when you do that if it's no prob | 23:20 | |
| IrcsomeBot | <tsimonq2> would you like to fix it and propose your code so I can see? or would you rather just walk me through? | 23:20 |
| IrcsomeBot | <tsimonq2> @Santa, LOL | 23:20 |
| tsimonq2 | acheronuk: talking about symbols? | 23:20 |
| acheronuk | yes | 23:20 |
| tsimonq2 | ok | 23:20 |
| tsimonq2 | acheronuk: depends on what Santa is more comfortable with | 23:21 |
| IrcsomeBot | <tsimonq2> giving us code or walking us through | 23:21 |
| IrcsomeBot | <tsimonq2> :P | 23:21 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Santa> Ok, i've seen the merge request already, so when i get some free time, maybe this weekend I could explain you some things about symbols files | 23:22 |
| acheronuk | bit of both would be the ideal I would say | 23:22 |
| IrcsomeBot | <tsimonq2> ok Santa :) | 23:22 |
| IrcsomeBot | <tsimonq2> it would help if you set your nick so I could just do @Santa | 23:22 |
| IrcsomeBot | <tsimonq2> or something like that | 23:23 |
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| IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> Today's daily boots fine with no CPP and GCC issues | 23:28 |
| IrcsomeBot | <tsimonq2> \o/ 👍👍 | 23:28 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> Going to try to install over plain Ubuntu today | 23:28 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> Mm in a VM plamsashell started | 23:30 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> But not on real hardware | 23:30 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> A simple plasmashell in krunner worked | 23:30 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> Odd that the panel did not come either | 23:31 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> Also Firefox will not start | 23:32 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> No crashes during installation | 23:40 |
| IrcsomeBot | <tsimonq2> good | 23:41 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> Got thrown to tty after hitting restart for some reason | 23:41 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> Mm discover says I have no updates but apt says otherwise | 23:45 |
| IrcsomeBot | <tsimonq2> consider filing bugs appropriately? ;) | 23:45 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> Also Firefox works now | 23:45 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> Testing my own script now ;) | 23:46 |
| ahoneybun | mm works other then the snap part | 23:57 |
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