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MikaelaWhy don't you just op meetingology and set +t or at least enable topiclock and give meetingology +t?07:03
sarnoldI can't recall the last time the topic was abused07:07
sarnoldfor as rarely as it happens, i'm not surprised "changed nothing" wins :)07:08
Mikaelawithin a month08:16
pittio/15:00
tdaitxo/15:00
infinity\o15:00
* slangasek waves15:00
slangasek#startmeeting15:02
meetingologyMeeting started Thu Sep  8 15:02:08 2016 UTC.  The chair is slangasek. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.15:02
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slangasek[TOPIC] Lightning round15:02
=== meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Lightning round
slangasek$ echo $(shuf -e barry doko bdmurray slangasek caribou infinity sil2100 robru cyphermox pitti tdaitx xnox chiluk mwhudson)15:02
slangasektdaitx xnox sil2100 slangasek mwhudson infinity cyphermox pitti doko chiluk caribou robru barry bdmurray15:02
slangasekshall we?15:02
infinityIf you insist.15:02
tdaitxwow, twice!15:02
tdaitxShort week: holiday on Wednesday, Sep/07 was Independence Day, time to protest against the "coup" all day (instead of just during the night time)15:02
tdaitx= proposed migration15:02
tdaitx- Reported linux-libc-dev headers mismatch between powerpc/ppc64 and all other archs; causes FTBFS on repsnapper (LP: #1619446)15:02
tdaitx- repsnapper FTBFS fix + workaround (LP: #1619289 and LP: #1619100)15:02
tdaitx- mozart can be removed, no reverse dependencies (other than it's own lib); reason: requires autoconf 2.13 to regenerate files, generated configure is incompatible with gcc6 (a test fails because g++ -E output is different than gcc5), and it is not being maintained any longer; also, the launchpad page project description is wrong; just kill the poor thing please15:02
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1619446 in linux (Ubuntu) "mismatching headers between powerpc/ppc64el and other archs" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/161944615:02
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1619289 in repsnapper (Ubuntu) "repsnapper FTBFS with gcc6" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/161928915:02
tdaitx- investigated htseq being on hold on -proposed; caused by bcftools FTBFS on i386, powerpc, and s390x (chain dependency: htseq -> python-pysam -> bcftools, where bcftools is a new dependency of python-pysam) (full report LP: #1619530)15:02
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1619100 in repsnapper (Ubuntu) "FTBFS on ppc64el: termios problems" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/161910015:02
tdaitx- Freevo FTBFS due to some unknown behavior on dh scripts (?), unable to reproduce locally, has anyone ever seen this:15:02
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1619530 in bcftools (Debian) "bcftools FTBFS on i386, powerpc, s390x due to failing tests" [Unknown,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/161953015:02
tdaitx  works: dh_strip debug symbol extraction: enabling -a due to Build-Debug-Symbols: yes in /CurrentlyBuilding15:02
tdaitx  fails: dh_strip debug symbol extraction: not enabling -a because /CurrentlyBuilding exists15:02
tdaitx  works: INFO: Disabling pkgstriptranslations for PPA build15:02
tdaitx  fails: pkgstriptranslations: processing freevo (in debian/freevo); do_strip: ...15:02
tdaitx(done)15:03
slangasekxnox:15:03
xnoxporting cirros/buildroot to s390x15:04
xnoxgnupg2 migration done15:04
xnoxadt failures fixing (openstack / and generic)15:04
xnoxcollaboration on upstream test-suite fixes for s390x15:04
xnoxzua further work on upgrade path15:04
xnoxwas out one day15:04
xnox(done)15:04
slangaseksil2100 is out15:05
infinitytdaitx: Those messages are from pkg-create-dbgsym15:05
slangasek * short week, on vacation last Thursday through Monday15:06
slangasek * Snappy ubuntu-core RTM milestone reached yesterday, kudos to the snappy team and thanks to all who had a part is supporting them15:06
slangasek * Tracked down an upstream mtools bug that was causing vfat corruption in snappy images (LP: #1619718)15:06
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1619718 in mtools (Ubuntu Xenial) "ubuntu-image created vfat eats itself after a while (mcopy creates wrong subdirs)" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/161971815:06
infinitytdaitx: Well, the first set is.  The second set is from pkgbinarymangler.15:06
slangasek  * needs the xenial SRU reviewed and approved15:06
slangasek * working on a new release of ubuntu-image with a few more fixes15:06
slangasek  * the ubuntu-image snap (which included workarounds) was used to produce all the images for the RTM release, no more u-d-f!15:06
slangasek * up next:15:06
slangasek  * more ubuntu-image, console-conf work on the drive to GA milestone15:06
slangasek  * on vacation next Monday, Thursday, Friday15:06
slangasek(done)15:06
slangasekinfinity:15:08
infinityNo mwhudson?15:08
slangaseknever mwhudson, I put him in the list to confuse people15:08
infinityWell done.15:08
infinityTwo day week, due to vacation and national holiday:15:08
infinity - Caught up on email, and learned a valuable lesson about ignoring mail for 10 days15:08
infinity - Working on integrating ubuntu-image in LP livefs builds15:08
infinity - Working with the kernel team on getting 4.6 into yakkety15:08
infinity - Preparing another glibc upload for yakkety and a xenial SRU15:08
infinityNext week:15:08
infinity - Finishing all the above, in the order listed15:08
infinity - Spinning up more powerpc VMs to better parallelise builds15:08
infinitySide note: Insomnia had me up all night, so hours might be slightly skewed today and tomorrow (ie: I might need a nap soon).15:08
infinityLess relevant side note: I've had La Isla Bonita stuck in my head for hours, and it's driving me insane.15:08
infinity(done)15:08
cyphermox- short week due to holiday on Monday15:09
cyphermox- grub2: UEFI IPv6 support landed in yakkety; preparing SRU15:09
cyphermox- partman-auto: fix software RAID over NVMe (LP: #1615650)15:09
cyphermox- helped out lamont with more debugging IPv6 netboot in UEFI w/ MAAS15:09
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1615650 in partman-auto (Ubuntu Xenial) "Guided Partitioning does not list Software RAID devices on NVMe" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/161565015:09
cyphermox- shim: small patch fixes for upstreaming EKU changes15:09
cyphermox- console-conf bug fix15:09
cyphermox- NM SRU'ing VPN split-tunnelling fixes.15:09
cyphermox(done)15:09
tdaitxinfinity, and why would they trigger for one build and not another? any way I can emulate that?15:09
pittiinfinity: the Madonna song?15:09
pittiautopkgtest:15:09
pitti - Port charms to xenial (mostly upstart → systemd, dropping backport hacks), redeploy production15:09
pitti - Fully move to python3 (xenial provides py3 libs for swift and nova)15:09
pitti - Adjust deployment script to work with juju-2.015:09
pitti - http://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com: Add back initial statistics page and moderately tasteful homepage15:10
pitti - Update https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ProposedMigration/AutopkgtestInfrastructure for new web UI code15:10
pittidistro:15:10
pitti - Provide deputy system service manager for snapd backport; now mostly working fine, pending testing from tvoss (#1616422)15:10
infinitytdaitx: It's based on the contents (or existence) of /CurrentlyBuilding.  The docs are the code, unfortunately.15:10
pitti - systemd: Add systemctl option to wait for unit to become inactive (for convergence-y-replace-upstart)15:10
pitti - Debug netplan/networkd resolv.conf bug with ogra; prepare SRU (#1620559)15:10
pitti - Fix resolved handling of multiple trailing dots (#1600000)15:10
pitti - ldb: Drop python3 packages again to solve python3-talloc-dev NBS15:10
pitti - ask kenvandine to fix ubuntu-system-settings for the one remaining NBS, MP pending now15:10
pitti - apport: Review https://code.launchpad.net/~xnox/apport/xenial-s390x/+merge/30494315:10
pittimisc:15:10
pitti - Help tvoss with snapd backport packaging on trusty15:10
pitti - Investigate RabbitMQ charm hang in LXD (#1621237)15:10
pitti - Investigate eternal hang when deploying with juju-2 (#1621336)15:10
pitti - Meeting/discussions with smoser about cloud-init unit hooks that can support mkfs (#1611074) and package installation (#1576692)15:10
pitti~~~~ ZE END ~~~15:10
infinityDer Enden?15:10
slangasekpitti: "prepare SRU" - of netplan or networkd?15:11
xnoxinfinity, there is ginger man spiced latte in starbucks and it's only 107 sleeps until "WHAM!" will hit the charts again.15:11
slangasekdoko_: here?15:11
pittislangasek: neither, it's the resolvconf integration with networkd, snappy uses that in xenial15:11
slangasekok15:11
* xnox is not at cauldron15:11
xnox=(15:11
robrupitti: I emailed you, please reply15:12
pittislangasek: they currently use their own networkd backport; I guess at some point we should backport that officially, but that should then also get the NM fixes15:12
slangasekpitti: how close are we to having a netplan we can SRU into xenial?15:12
slangasektheir own networkd backport> ah, eew, yes15:12
slangasekchiluk: hi15:12
pittislangasek: oh, is that urgent? I was going to wait until it at least gets the planned features, and matures a bit15:12
chiluksorry slangasek.. dealing with an emergency.15:12
slangasekpitti: not urgent, I'm just wondering how close we are to it :)15:13
infinitypitti: And yes, the Madonna song. :P15:13
slangasekpitti: iterating in the ppa is obviously more efficient than iterating in SRU15:13
chilukslangasek skip me please.15:13
slangasekchiluk: no worries15:13
slangasekcaribou: ?15:13
caribouI'm here15:13
cariboudpkg status file corrupt15:13
caribou OOM killer induced crash15:13
caribou Trusty multipath-tools does not document /etc/multilpath/wwids upon restart15:13
cariboubugfix mostly15:13
caribou☑ Done15:13
robrulp:bileto15:13
robru* moved to git15:13
robru* completed git support (one successful build in production so far)15:13
robru* completed ephemeral PPA transition (23 successful ephemeral PPAs so far)15:13
robru* many many many iterations to clean up fresh deployments15:13
robru* fix bug where re-publishing ticket didn't recognize it's own packages in -proposed and got confused, blocking publication of other packages in ticket15:13
robrulp:bileto charm15:13
robru* moved to git15:13
robru* many iterations to clean up fresh deployments15:13
robru* drop a bunch of obsolete jenkins bits15:13
pittislangasek: after NMUing NM it's unblocked15:14
caribouxnox: I'm still hunting that dpkg /var/lib/dpkg/status file corruption btw15:14
robrulp:canonical-mojo-specs15:14
robru* pull charm from git15:14
robru* fix up fresh deployments15:14
robrulp:emacs15:14
robru* migrate to git (created lp mirror of upstream git)15:14
robru* update snapshot packaging to support builds from git15:14
robru* git-based daily build recipe15:14
robru(done)15:14
bdmurrayinvestigation into retracer processes and respawn limits15:14
bdmurrayreported daisy bug 1620823 re retracers leaking memory15:14
bdmurraysubmitted RT re daisy-retracer charm update for daily restarts15:14
bdmurraysubmitted RT regarding daisy frontend OOPSes (cassandra issue?)15:14
ubottubug 1620823 in Daisy "retracers reach respawn limit" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/162082315:14
bdmurraymodified DB query to read dpkghistory to get a list of packages to install and test for the HWE upgrade bug15:14
bdmurraytested installing packages found in crashes at errors to reproduce HWE upgrade bug15:14
bdmurrayreleased update-manager / xorg SRU for trusty15:14
bdmurrayinvestigation into ubuntu-release-upgrader autopkg test failure15:15
bdmurrayreported sbuild & gpg bug (building for yakkety on xenial)15:15
bdmurray✔ done15:15
slangasekrobru: only one successful git landing so far?  slow uptake :)15:15
xnoxcaribou, =( is it reproducible now in automated way? do we need archive bisect to pin point it?15:15
robruslangasek: yeah! I thought people were clamoring for git, but I guess they're busy.15:16
caribouxnox: no & not sure it's comming from the archive as they used a landscape repositor15:16
pittirobru: replied15:16
robrupitti: thanks15:16
infinityI have a hard time believing dpkg is corrupting its own status file and only one person has noticed.15:16
caribouxnox: I've been reading dpkg source & trying things15:16
infinityThat's fairly improbable.15:17
caribouxnox: I'll let you know if I get somewhere15:17
caribouinfinity: it's on precise & happened on >500 desktops at the same time15:18
infinitycaribou: But all in the same environment, so that still qualifies as "one person".15:18
caribouinfinity: and not a corruption per say, 1300 package entries have part of their description field replaced by blanks15:18
infinitycaribou: As in, no one else seems to have seen or reported this in Ubuntu or Debian, so... Hrm.15:18
caribouinfinity: that's why I'm suspecting something on the Landscape Dedicate Server side15:19
infinitycaribou: Copies of their /var/lib/apt/lists would be helpful, if you don't have that.15:19
slangasekonly /part/ of their description field replaced by blanks?15:19
infinityCould be that they're serving their apt repo over a 110 baud coupler? ;)15:19
caribouinfinity: slangasek: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23150531/15:20
infinityDescription: package for doing things to stu*&^!#%^NO CARRIER15:20
caribou:D15:20
xnoxslangasek, lines like "  .*" get replaced with " "15:20
xnoxslangasek, that is leading two spaces, in a non-empty line, become empty line15:20
infinitycaribou: Are those actually spaces, or non-printable binary vomit?15:20
xnoxwhich is invalid format15:20
xnoxslangasek, i somehow suspect something else external to dpkg if fiddling with the status file, does landscape dedicated client does that? or any bindings?15:21
caribou^<space><space>$15:21
slangasekneato15:21
slangasekare they running dselect?15:21
infinityIf that was apt, I'd say someone's producing bogus Translations-$$ files.15:21
xnoxah.15:22
infinityBut dpkg status should only have the contents of the actual control files.15:22
pitticyphermox: there's still a shim-signed in precise-proposed (http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/pending-sru.html), do you know the status of that?15:22
slangasekxnox: I don't know what might do it15:22
xnoxwhat if they lack Translations-en ?15:22
infinityxnox: See above.15:22
cyphermoxpitti: status is it will die, replaced by a newer shinier shim15:22
xnoxon their mirror.15:22
infinityxnox: Translations-$$ is only used by apt.  dpkg status files are pulled from DEBIAN/control15:22
* doko_ waves (without summary) and reminds caribou about the clamav related MIR 15:22
cyphermoxbut perhaps I should validate it anyway before that15:22
pitticyphermox: ok, so not to be released?15:22
cariboudoko_: haven't forgot15:23
xnoxcaribou, do we have access to their mirror, over http or some such?15:23
cyphermoxpitti: I'll get back to the bug and look through my notes to be sure, but we'll supercede it anyway15:23
infinitycaribou: Anyhow, interested in as much debugging info as you can get from their apt lists, etc.  Can't make time this week, but I'm quite interested in WTF is going on.15:23
cyphermoxpitti: in any case, I've tested and retested all of this multiple times15:23
caribouinfinity: ok, will keep you posted15:23
pitticyphermox: ok; there's one bug missing v-done, but otherwise nothing to say it should be blocked; I want to avoid that it accidentally gets released if it isn't supposed to15:23
caribouxnox: I'll see what I can get regarding the mirror15:24
cyphermoxpitti: I just checked, it was verification-done for precise too15:27
pitticyphermox: not bug 157472715:27
ubottubug 1574727 in shim (Ubuntu Xenial) "[SRU] Enforce using signed kernels and modules on UEFI" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/157472715:27
slangasek[TOPIC] AOB15:27
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slangasekAnything else?15:27
infinityLAST NIGHT I DREAMT OF SAN PEDROOOOO!15:28
infinity(nothing else)15:28
xnoxMama Mia!15:28
pittiinfinity: warm wind carried on the sea, it called to me! ♪ ♫15:29
slangasek#endmeeting15:30
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meetingologyMeeting ended Thu Sep  8 15:30:00 2016 UTC.15:30
meetingologyMinutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2016/ubuntu-meeting.2016-09-08-15.02.moin.txt15:30
slangasekthanks, all!15:30
caribouthanks!15:30
pittithanks everyone15:32
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