[00:08] <Festour_> Hey guys, when i try install steam, aptitude tell me what i have unresolved dep with libudev1 and libgl1-mesa-dri
[00:09] <Festour_> And aptitude ask me if i want to resolve it, i need delete like 500 packages
[00:09] <nacc> Festour_: steam from mutliverse? what version of ubuntu?
[00:10] <Festour_> nacc: 16.04 and, i'm not sure about what you talking, i just typed sudo aptitude install steam
[00:11] <nacc> Festour_: please pastebin `apt-cache policy steam`
[00:11] <Festour_> multiverse i368
[00:11] <Festour_> 500 http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial/multiverse i386 Packages
[00:12] <nacc> Festour_: can you please pastebin the output of the command you tried to run (`aptitude install steam`) or whatever.
[00:12] <nacc> Festour_: not in the channel, in a pastebin
[00:12] <Festour_> nacc: yea, but my system language arent english
[00:13] <Festour_> nacc: its okay? or i need switch to english?
[00:13] <nacc> Festour_: it's fine
[00:13] <Festour_> nacc: okay, 1 min pls
[00:14] <kernelpanic> When ubuntu 16.04 moved to systemd, why does /etc/init/ still exist? Seems now I have files in /etc/init, /etc/init.d/ and /etc/systemd, so there's 3 ways of starting things. Right?
[00:14] <Festour_> nacc: http://pastebin.com/y4avQUqV
[00:17] <klimt> hello - I have disabled IPv6 on my ubuntu machine a long time ago and now I need to reenable it. I have followed every single forum on the internet but cannot get ipv6 to work. no /proc/sys/net/ipv6/" exists ever! can someone help plesae? thanks in advance.
[00:18] <nacc> kernelpanic: they all end up using systemd, iiuc. e.g. when an init-script in /etc/init.d sources lsb-init-functions, it jumps to systemd. But /etc is just the config side of things, not the actual init system
[00:21] <nacc> Festour_: pastebin `apt-cache policy libudev1` and `apt-cache policy libudev1:i386` please
[00:22] <Festour_> nacc: ok, 1 min
[00:23] <Festour_> nacc: http://pastebin.com/70F0EvyG
[00:24] <nacc> Festour_: you should run `apt-get update; apt-get upgrade` first, i think
[00:24] <Festour_> nacc: k, i try
[00:26] <anonym> hi
[00:26] <klimt> i have checked (a) /etc/grub.d/* (b) /boot/grub/grub.cfg, (c) /etc/sysctl.conf (d) /etc/modprobe.d/* and I have no listing of either disabling or blacklisting IPv6 - how on earth do I not have IPv6? on a brand new virtual machine on the host, the VM DOES have IPv6 address and the same settings as the aforementioned configuration files
[00:27] <klimt> ^^ this is with regards to my effort to re-enable IPv6 on my Ubuntu machine. I have had no luck so far.
[00:27] <nacc> klimt: are you able to modprobe it at runtime (modprobe ipv6)
[00:28] <klimt> I did that nacc but then when I do lsmod ipv6 it's not listed.
[00:28] <klimt> by doing a modprobe ipv6 I do not get any error by the way.
[00:29] <nacc> klimt: you're using an ubuntu kernel?
[00:29] <klimt> kernel 4.6
[00:30] <nacc> klimt: so ... not an ubuntu kernel
[00:30] <nacc> klimt: where'd you get that kernel from?
[00:30] <klimt> I had ipv6 in the past - i had disabled it (long time ago)
[00:30] <bazhang> thats not a supported klimt what version of ubuntu is that
[00:31] <kernelpanic> nacc: ok.. but why? Because some packagers just haven't migrated to systemd yet?
[00:31] <klimt> I have setup a new installation on a VM with same kernel version and it does have ipv6
[00:31] <nacc> klimt: i feel like you're ignoring bazhang and my's questions
[00:31] <bazhang> klimt, what version ubuntu please
[00:32] <nacc> kernelpanic: yeah, not all packages are fully systemd-aware. so there is a this transition layer
[00:32] <nacc> kernelpanic: but i mean, even using systemd, there is still configuration that might live in /etc (iiuc)
[00:32] <nacc> kernelpanic: not necessarily in /etc/init.d or /etc/init
[00:32] <klimt> bazhang: it's 4.6.0-kali1-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.6.4-1kali1 (2016-07-21) x86_64 GNU/Linux
[00:32] <nacc> kernelpanic: but even so, you wouldn't normally touch either of those anyways
[00:32] <klimt> why does that matter?
[00:33] <bazhang> !version | klimt
[00:33] <nacc> klimt: becuase this is the ubuntu support channel
[00:33] <klimt> Debian* not Ubuntu
[00:33] <nacc> !kali | klimt
[00:33] <bazhang> thas kali klimt ?
[00:33] <klimt> hmm ok
[00:34] <klimt> so you re suggesting that it's a Kernel issue?
[00:34] <klimt> yes
[00:34] <bazhang> ask the kali folks klimt
[00:34] <klimt> fine.
[00:34] <klimt> thanks
[00:35] <bazhang> welcome
[00:35] <klimt> bb
[00:36] <Festour_> nacc: ty, it helped
[00:37] <Festour_> nacc: now aptitude request only install additionall packages, not delete installed ones
[00:46] <puchogenzo> sup
[00:51] <apb1963_> 14.04; after forcing an fsck the system is apparently booting, but I don't get a GUI.  The output for the boot process appears to have stalled on F7, but I can login on F1.
[00:52] <tonberry-king> Does ubuntu still offer the option to install "desktop" with the ability to use root for admin task's ?
[00:54] <Bashing-om> apb1963_: What desk top ? . what results when starting the GUI from terminal ?
[00:55] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: KDE.... not sure how to start it from a terminal
[00:55] <apb1963_> other than typing kwin???
[00:55] <artyx> apb1963_: boot .. init=/bin/sh .. or init=3 or something
[00:56] <Bashing-om> apb1963_: Not sure with KDE .. maybe as ' sudo service ssdm start ' ?
[00:57] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: google says "startx"
[00:58] <Bashing-om> apb1963_: NO ! .. Startx must have a supporting .xinitrc file .
[00:59] <apb1963_> ok.... well... no mention of it here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/168736/how-to-start-gui-from-command-line
[01:01] <klimt> fyi i found the issue.... i just had to do "update-grub".....!!!!! and then reboot and there's ipv6....
[01:01] <nacc> Festour_: np, it's a good practice to do that regularly anyways
[01:02] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: checking in #kde
[01:05] <villeras> hi Bashing-om !
[01:06] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: #kde says:
[01:06] <apb1963_> [18:09] <thiago> start X, then start KDE inside it
[01:06] <apb1963_> [18:09] <thiago> tell your X starting script to run "startkde
[01:09] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: so... I don't know what to do with that.  Someone else said "without kdm or xdm?" but I don't really undersand the question... nor the original replay from thiago.
[01:09] <apb1963_> s/replay/reply
[01:16] <Bashing-om> apb1963_: Try as ' sudo service lightdm start ' : https://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=110041 .
[01:17] <apb1963_> how about kdm?
[01:17] <Bashing-om> apb1963_: ^^ is 2013 .. old dccs . but will not hurt to see . same same for kdm .. woll not hurt to try .
[01:31] <tonberry-king> Does ubunut still offer alternative installer iso's ?
[01:32] <Bashing-om> !minimal | tonberry-king
[01:33] <tonberry-king> Bashing-om: thanks though what i am looking into is i use to use alternative installer to setup with root and user and was wondering if that's still an option
[01:34] <Bashing-om> tonberry-king: Best of my poor memory the alternate installer was dis-continued at 12.04 .
[01:35] <tonberry-king> Bashing-om: Thanks that helps out alot
[01:36] <tonberry-king> Bashing-om: Wonder if it's in the expert install option, well we will see
[01:37] <sud3sk> hi
[01:37] <slicktux> -_____-
[01:40] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: both kdm & lightdm fail to start
[01:41] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: lightdm fails with an exit code of 127 and kdm just fails without comment
[01:42] <sud3sk> /modo de me $ + x
[01:46] <Bashing-om> apb1963_: My google-fu also fails me . I do not know how to start the later day KDE desktop . We need the correct command and see what returns in terminal .
[01:48] <artyx> startx /usr/bin/startkde ?
[01:49] <artyx> Your google fu is inexperienced !  You have to ask it like ... "Hey how do i .. oops, i went poopy" and bam, it pops up with how to start kde
[01:49] <Bashing-om> artyx: Maybe .. That too goes back a ways .. might see if the file exist ??
[01:49] <YankDownUnder> artyx: Um...you're trying to start KDE/Plasma without using the "display manager"?
[01:50] <artyx> YankDownUnder: I think they're trying to start it from terminal/command line mode
[01:51] <YankDownUnder> artyx: If there *is* a display manager running already - on whatever tty (7 generally) - might have some issues...
[01:52] <artyx> YankDownUnder: <apb1963_> ok.... well... no mention of it here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/168736/how-to-start-gui-from-command-line
[01:52] <artyx> I inferred command line meant .. no X :(
[01:52] <artyx> You would be correct, i retract my statement about startx /usr/bin/startkde
[01:53] <apb1963_> artyx: it does, in this case.
[01:53] <artyx> apb1963_ Did it pop up ?
[01:53] <apb1963_> YankDownUnder: there is no display manager running to my knowledge.
[01:53] <apb1963_> artyx: no
[01:53] <artyx> No errors? Nothing ?
[01:53] <YankDownUnder> If one has installed 'KDE/Plasma", then the /usr/bin/startkde exists...however...
[01:53] <apb1963_> artyx: lets start from the top... did "it" pop up when I did what?
[01:54] <apb1963_> YankDownUnder: it does not.  Perhaps that's the problem.
[01:54] <artyx> apb1963_: Lets be 100% on the table. step 1) type runlevel ... what init lvl
[01:55] <apb1963_> 2
[01:55] <apb1963_> N 2
[01:56] <artyx> I got ya ... i'm double checking the runlevel lists for ubuntu .. to insure i dont give you bad info
[01:56] <apb1963_> 3 is typically the GUI
[01:56] <apb1963_> but I'm guessing it's in 2 since the GUI didn't come up
[01:56] <artyx> N 2 (its in 2)  ...
[01:56] <artyx> Now .. if you type X do you get anything .. regardless of how usable it is
[01:57] <apb1963_> just.. X ?
[01:57] <YankDownUnder> artyx: It might be a consideration to "stop" lightdm (or whatever) (or kill it) - before much of anything else...
[01:57] <artyx> YankDownUnder : Does lightdm actually run in init 2 ?
[01:58] <artyx> apb1963_: When you did that .. did it go black screen?
[01:58] <apb1963_> artyx: X does indeed spew text... and then yes black screen
[01:58] <artyx> Groovy .ctl alt backspace
[01:59] <artyx> Does it go back to text
[01:59] <artyx> NOT delete .. just backspace
[02:00] <apb1963_> Yes...K display manager fails to start...twice.  Then, lightdm I don't... it went into some kind of disk checking mode.
[02:01] <artyx> ..... It rebooted ?
[02:01] <apb1963_> yes
[02:01] <artyx> Okay ... Time to learn backspace vs del
[02:01] <apb1963_> Not reboot reboot
[02:01] <apb1963_> The x server rebooted
[02:01] <YankDownUnder> apb1963_: Have you tried to reconfigure xorg or the display mangler as of yet?
[02:02] <artyx> Try this .. " X > ~/x.log 2>&1  "
[02:02] <apb1963_> actually... I take that back.. it does appear the whole machine rebooted... though I'm not sure... it didn't do the normal BIOS reboot sequence I don't think so... not sure.
[02:02] <apb1963_> YankDownUnder: no
[02:02] <artyx> now ..when it pops up
[02:02] <artyx> ctl + alt + backspace
[02:02] <YankDownUnder> apb1963_: Might be a consideration...
[02:03] <artyx> look for a key that says backspace, to the right of the 0 on top of the kb
[02:03] <Bashing-om> YankDownUnder: - apb1963_ crashed for unknown reason, unable to boot to the GUI now .... graphics driver ?
[02:03] <apb1963_> it's checking disks... "This may take several minutes"
[02:03] <apb1963_> artyx: you mean the big one labeled "Backspace" ?
[02:03] <artyx> sounds like either a driver crashed system to reboot. or 3 finger salute :(
[02:03] <artyx> Exactly! ;)
[02:04] <apb1963_> artyx: well, that's the one I assumed you meant when you said ctl-alt-backspace.
[02:05] <artyx> is this metal & monitor ? or a virtual pc ?
[02:05] <apb1963_> metal
[02:05] <artyx> Sweet ... WHen it finishes, try that X > ~/x.log nonsense ...
[02:05] <YankDownUnder> Solar flares should be ruled out - so, from a logical standpoint, what exactly is going to cause xorg to bork? Hardware, first and foremost...then it's software from there...graphics driver, or update to graphics driver, or inconsistent graphics settings FOR the driver or hardware...
[02:05] <artyx> That will create a file in your homedir .. with the debug of what happens when you try to start X
[02:06] <artyx> Hopefully in there, theres going to be some moderately useful text about whats causing it to not work
[02:06] <apb1963_> yes
[02:07] <apb1963_> it might be useful to you... what I saw was not useful to me.... but.. when it finishes checking... i'll capture the output.
[02:07] <tripelb> Question:  how can i usb tether my ubuntu or even chromeos to my Android phone data?
[02:07] <apb1963_> luckily I have a second machine I can paste the file
[02:09] <artyx> apb1963_: pastebinit ...
[02:09] <artyx> thats a command .. not a directive to "pastebin it "
[02:10] <artyx> Although that commmand WILL "pastebin it" ... its the actual syntax thats important
[02:11] <apb1963_> Xorg.0.log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23148443/
[02:12] <apb1963_> not what you requested, but the next best thing for now
[02:12] <apb1963_> while it's still checking
[02:13] <welly_> Hello all, having a bit of a problem with (possibly) IP tables. I've opened port 80 as I've just installed nginx however not having a great deal of luck actually accessing the webserver.
[02:13] <apb1963_> [19:19] <jachin_s> apb1963_: Good. As your pasted log, X server is working good.
[02:13] <welly_> Have confirmed the server is running as wget http://localhost is returning index.html
[02:14] <apb1963_> so it's a big disk... it'll likely be awhile... assuming it's just checking the one and not everything it finds... in which case it will be forever. :/
[02:15] <welly_> iptables -nL looks like http://paste.ubuntu.com/23148450/
[02:15] <apb1963_> though I have to say it's disconcerting that it doesn't provide any feedback but just sits there...
[02:16] <artyx> I'd like to use query if possible, but if not thats okay too. ctl alt delete it , reboot .. on the line that begins with kernel append fastboot that is basically  do not run fsck
[02:16] <artyx> and force boot .. have you done grub mods before ? its easy =)
[02:16] <artyx> Just take your time, find hte right kernel, edit it. arrow down to kernel line .. and then press f10
[02:17] <orlock> I'm hacing problems accessing my D: drive letter from bash
[02:17] <artyx> well .. type/append the text "fastboot"  and then f10
[02:17] <artyx> If its a huge drive, you just saved yourself hours, pat yourself on the back, and set a mental reminder to do it in future
[02:19] <orlock> What's the channel for Ubuntu on WIndows?
[02:20] <Bashing-om> orlock: In linux there is no D: drive . can you show us the output of linux command ' parted -l ' so we see the drive/partition you are trying to access ?
[02:23] <apb1963_> artyx: I don't know what you mean by "query".  Is that a program?  force boot???  No grub mods.
[02:24] <apb1963_> artyx: I already forced an fsck and it found plenty to check earlier.
[02:24] <RASA_> hi all
[02:24] <RASA_> im new here
[02:26] <Bashing-om> apb1963_: Have you also run 'e2fsck' from a liveDVD on the install ?
[02:26] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: No... just the forcefsck you mentioned earlier
[02:28] <Bashing-om> apb1963_: As it found and corrected errors . might be good to run a deeper check from a liveDVD .
[02:29] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: I'm not sure it corrected anything... it did take it's sweet time checking everything... but another check might be in order... I don't have any blank dvd's... only CD's
[02:30] <Bashing-om> apb1963_: I take it that you do not have the install DVD or a USB of 14.04 ?
[02:31] <RASA_> i installed ubuntu from windows
[02:31] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: correct
[02:31] <RASA_> first 20min in ubunto and im very suprised positive..
[02:32] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: I think I used debootstrap and/or a network install CD maybe?  It was a couple years ago at this point I guess???
[02:33] <Bashing-om> apb1963_: Ouch . Be real nice to confirm that the file system is intact and in a consistent state .
[02:33] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: Yes... was thinking that myself... Is there a way to do that?  Or is fsck pretty much it.
[02:35] <Bashing-om> apb1963_: The way to do it is e2fsck . the backend of fsck .. and the way to do that is from a live environment such that the target file system is not mounted ( in use ) .
[02:35] <ghost_> Anyone running a newer mainline kernel?
[02:35] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: at this point the simplest thing might be to just install 16.04...
[02:36] <Bashing-om> apb1963_: Well .. fastest anyway .. with a good net connection, 20 minutes and done .
[02:36] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: oh... well in that case... the only thing I can think of is to run 12.04 from another disk in the same machine and run e2fsck from there....
[02:36] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: I have a decent net connection
[02:37] <apb1963_> I've been keeping the 12.04 around just in case I missed copying something... but I think at this point, it's safe to trash it...
[02:37] <Bashing-om> apb1963_: YankDownUnder // Not so sure I would run e2fsck with 12.04 on a 14.04 file system ??
[02:38] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: yeah... I think I'm running ext4 anyway... so that's probably not going to work.
[02:38] <YankDownUnder> apb1963_: DOUBLE CHECK what file system you're using...hmm...
[02:39] <apb1963_> UUID=97ca4c6f-67c6-40f1-b176-7bf1af257d70 /               ext4    errors=remount
[02:39] <apb1963_> yap
[02:40] <Bashing-om> apb1963_: ext4 is the standard work horse . solid as a rock .
[02:40] <JesusDontHaveABe> lookin for swaggy bear and bezzy brah
[02:40] <YankDownUnder> I used to think the same of ReiserFS...back in the day...before the court case...yep...
[02:40] <apb1963_> alrighty then... when I ssh into this machine I get a message about
[02:40] <apb1963_> New release '16.04.1 LTS' available.
[02:40] <apb1963_> Run 'do-release-upgrade' to upgrade to it.
[02:41] <ghost_> anyone use ppas with newer packages?
[02:41] <apb1963_> but I"m guessing that's not what I want to do
[02:41] <JesusDontHaveABe> I asked them at the BBQ place the other day if they had truffle butter and they just laughed. I still dont know why
[02:41] <YankDownUnder> ghost_: In what regard?
[02:42] <apb1963_> JesusDontHaveABe: because everyone knows goat butter is the better butter.
[02:42] <JesusDontHaveABe> ahhhhhh
[02:42] <JesusDontHaveABe> Im a culinary imbecile
[02:42] <apb1963_> it happens
[02:42] <ghost_> stuff like evince, the kernel, libreoffice are slightly out of date
[02:43] <JesusDontHaveABe> Im gonna show my rookie flag for a second, but, can anyone recommend a really good basic Linux admin book. Im taking classes, but even the "for dummies" style books are mammoth
[02:44] <JesusDontHaveABe> Like maybe a "setup your own Linux admin Labe" kinda deal
[02:44] <Arnex> I have a question about btrfs file systems: If I have a system with one btrfs partition that has 2 subvolumes, @ and @home, can I install a new system to @ without touching the files in @home?
[02:44] <BL4DE> Hello
[02:44] <JesusDontHaveABe> sup
[02:44] <YankDownUnder> ghost_: I have made use of particular PPA's as per my system - so, KDE/Plasma, then I added Gnome3 and Cinnamon...and a few other minor things...what are you getting at? Are you wanting to update/upgrade those particular packages, or you've already found and added the PPA's and are asking before you hose something up?
[02:45] <BL4DE> Is anyone here using Corsair M65 mouse without problems?
[02:47] <ghost_> YDU: Just wondering if anyone had any repos for easy install of newer packages
[02:47] <Bashing-om> apb1963_: Nope, not at all what you eant to do .. NOT with a broken system .
[02:47] <YankDownUnder> ghost_: Coolbeans...have you done the Google thingo yet - in searching - especially for like "Evince"...?
[02:48] <Bashing-om> !manual | JesusDontHaveABe
[02:48] <Bashing-om> !terminal | JesusDontHaveABe
[02:49] <YankDownUnder> ghost_: As well...running "newer" kernel versions is something that would be a bit "testy" as it were (no pun intended)
[02:49] <JesusDontHaveABe> I mean more as a preparation for a career track. I use ubuntu now and mint
[02:49] <ghost_> I was afraid of that
[02:50] <JesusDontHaveABe> I "know a thing or two about a thing or two" and thats it
[02:50] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: This looks like the ticket... and a task for when my eyes are fully open... after a nap or two.  The easiest thing to set up is probably PXE netbooting. Untar the file netboot/pxeboot.tar.gz into /srv/tftp or wherever is appropriate for your tftp server. Set up your DHCP server to pass filename pxelinux.0 to clients, and with luck everything will just work.
[02:50] <YankDownUnder> ghost_: Not to sound "UN-Ubuntu", but Fedora makes use of "newer" compiles of the kernel - and most software...just chucking that into the mix...
[02:50] <apb1963_> Yay luck.
[02:51] <ghost_> I've had good experience with Fedora
[02:52] <YankDownUnder> ghost_: Ditto...however, I'm using Ubuntu now...prefer to have one platform here - and with clients...
[02:52] <apb1963_> YankDownUnder: Bashing-om: thanks for all the help... i'll be back when I'm not yawning my head off.
[02:53]  * apb1963_ self-implodes
[02:53] <YankDownUnder> apb1963_: Peace, be well.
[02:53] <Bashing-om> apb1963_: I am all for fixing , But the fastest easiest is a fresh clean install . A lot to be said for fresh .
[02:54] <ghost_> I'm going back to the stock kernel
[02:56] <jphreak> Hello all
[02:59] <jphreak> hey ghostZero you from des moines?
[02:59] <ghostZero> yeah
[02:59] <jphreak> Kool I live in perrry
[03:00] <ghostZero> havent been there since high school
[03:00] <jphreak> lol yea not a bad town. I work in dm
[03:01] <jphreak> not much conversation on here
[03:01] <jphreak> Anybody running ubunt 16.04?
[03:02] <Bashing-om> jphreak: conversation is in ubuntu-offtopic :)
[03:02] <YankDownUnder> Australians are mostly at lunch - or finishing up lunch...everyone else is either really really early, or really really late.
[03:02] <orlock> Ahh
[03:02] <orlock> fat and happy
[03:02] <jphreak> Yea it's like 10 pm here already had dinner lol
[03:03] <orlock> just finished lunch
[03:03] <jphreak> :)
[03:08] <jphreak> anyone watch halt and catch fire?
[03:10] <orlock> jphreak: nah but i might start
[03:10] <orlock> jphreak: mr robot?
[03:11] <orlock> whoops, gotta watch what we say or the off-topic police will start up
[03:11] <__panda> I watched season 1 of mr. robot. I like that it doesn't completely bastardize hacking, like so much entertainment is guilty of
[03:11] <jphreak> yea i watched the first season. pretty good
[03:11] <__panda> but honestly, some of the commentary is cringey as fuck
[03:11] <__panda> Elliot is like an edgy 15 year old...
[03:11] <jphreak> yea lol :)
[03:11] <jphreak> not a bad show
[03:11] <__panda> but so are a lot of hackers, so i suppose it is, in many respects, an accurate portrayal
[03:11] <jphreak> overall
[03:12] <orlock> grow up, get a job, find something better to do..
[03:14] <jphreak> Hacking if its not malicious is good I think
[03:14] <jphreak> Just means your good at problem solving and figuring things out
[03:15] <__panda> Depends... You can also be good at utilizing tools.
[03:15] <orlock> Or you are an emotionally stunted asshole who cannot tell the difference between "i can do this" and "i should do this"
[03:16] <__panda> If you're discovering vulnerabilities and writing exploits I'd say that's a high level of problem solving.
[03:16] <jphreak> thats hacking is it not?
[03:16] <__panda> But if you download a bunch of tool that brute forces sql, then you find hashes and plug them into john the ripper did you do any problem solving
[03:16] <orlock> depends  on which definition you use
[03:17] <jphreak> I have a pcm form a jeep that I am hacking
[03:17] <jphreak> thats why I said depends if its for malicious intent or not
[03:17] <orlock> Every time i try and run bash.exe with my admin credentials, it just goes and installs it again
[03:17] <__panda> No... You could discover a vulnerability, problem-solve and write code for it and still be malicious...
[03:19] <jphreak> cant know good with out evil suppose
[03:19] <__panda> Agreed.
[03:19] <__panda> Though I like @orlock's definiton.
[03:19]  * orlock installs samba on ubuntu on windows 10
[03:20] <jphreak> they need more games for steam for nix platform
[03:20] <orlock> __panda: I've known people who are very serious security professionals, well respected, doing all sorts of work
[03:21] <orlock> __panda: and i've met "hackers" who are essentially immature assholes who just want to play and dont think that the rules should apply to them
[03:21] <jphreak> Yea I just like writing php, python little c
[03:21] <orlock> __panda: and that attitude is present even in non-computer related situations
[03:21] <jphreak> true
[03:22] <__panda> Definitely agree
[03:22] <jphreak> some poeple are just born assholes :)
[03:22] <orlock> not saying they are not smart, great coders, etc - just they happen to be assholes
[03:22] <orlock> Trapped in an embassy waiting for the statute of limitations to run out now, heh.
[03:22] <__panda> What's special about hacking is ... the ramifications of what you do are not as apparent since it digitized.
[03:23] <artyx> orlock Well that narrowed it down
[03:23] <jphreak> yea but to me hacking is more like taking something apart and making it better
[03:23] <jphreak> thats jsut me tho
[03:23] <__panda> There's an emotional disconnect since it's done over the internet.
[03:24] <orlock> jphreak: you should read https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hackers:_Heroes_of_the_Computer_Revolution
[03:24] <__panda> Great book.
[03:24] <artyx> hacking is using your claw hammer as a shim on your workbench...
[03:24] <jphreak> I am a service manager and mechanin
[03:24] <artyx> the mentality behind that decision
[03:24] <jphreak> mechanic
[03:26] <jphreak> adventurers, visionaries, risk-takers, [and] artists” rather than “nerdy social outcasts or 'unprofessional' programmers who wrote dirty, 'nonstandard' computer code.”
[03:26] <artyx> you go to light the charcoal and realize you have no lighter fluid ... do you a) give up. b) go to the store and get some .. c) adapt acoffecan and a propane stove d) <<insert solution here>>
[03:27] <__panda> a)
[03:27] <__panda> b) if i had coffee
[03:27] <jphreak> not enoug information given
[03:27] <__panda> :D
[03:27] <orlock> artyx: WTH, lighter fluid and charcoal?
[03:28] <orlock> Wood, twigs and paper
[03:28] <jphreak> i buy match light
[03:28] <orlock> Toilet paper rolls make good firestarters
[03:28] <orlock> you see how many rolls can fit into a roll
[03:28] <jphreak> pencil lead and an wall outlet
[03:29] <orlock> spot the mechanic
[03:29] <artyx> orlock: a or b without reason ... they should give up not out of box thinkers
[03:30] <__panda> Lol... or you don't want to waste your time on an already solved problem.
[03:30] <artyx> A  pencil is a pencil is a pencil, they wont think to use shavings, lead, or the properties of the eraser
[03:31] <artyx> __panda : thatd be why i qualified it as "without reason"
[03:31] <riceballmuffin> FUCK YOU FEDS
[03:31] <jphreak> wtf haha
[03:31] <__panda> edgy....
[03:32] <jphreak> watched to much mr robot
[03:32] <artyx> i got to the prison reveal ... havent seen anymore recent
[03:33] <jphreak> yea i got to where dude killed the chick on the roof maybe a few more
[03:33] <orlock> wow thats like, last season heh
[03:33] <__panda> Am I the only one that finds Elliot's commentary to be reminiscent of a 15 year old outcast?
[03:33] <jphreak> yea I am behind
[03:33] <artyx> therees a fun 80s sitcom in season 2
[03:34] <orlock> __panda: he's ill and actually has a diagnosed disorder remember
[03:35] <artyx> __panda : maybe a severe aspergers ...the more specific you get the more observer base you lose
[03:36] <jphreak> Yea he has drug issue in the first season doesnt he?
[03:36] <orlock> antisocial personality disorder
[03:36] <artyx> face it normal is a setting on the washing machine
[03:36] <orlock> artyx: Now its all just classed as ASD, autism spectrum disorders, aspergers is no longer a seperate diagnosis
[03:37] <orlock> artyx: i love that, i'm stealing it
[03:37] <artyx> orlock : =)
[03:37] <c|oneman> can boot-repair fix non-grub stuff like an ARM mini PC that uses U-boot
[03:37] <GlammaGeek> Hello.  I'm new here.  Please be gentle.
[03:38] <lordcirth> GlammaGeek, welcome.  Did you have a question?
[03:38] <GlammaGeek> Well.  Yes but I don't want to get yelled at for asking in the wrong place.
[03:38] <artyx> better than being yelled at for not saying anythng!
[03:38] <Twst5> Hi. Could someone help me. I installed youtube-dl-gui (by following these steps: http://askubuntu.com/questions/385924/is-there-a-gui-for-youtube-dl). However i want to remove it. Would it be fine to 'sudo apt-get remove youtube-dlg' and then remove "ppa:nilarimogard/webupd8" from the Software & Updates section ("Other Software"). - Would that do it?
[03:39] <GlammaGeek> Okay.  here goes.  I'm having a horrible time trying to mount a customer's WD Worldbook raid array.
[03:39] <jphreak> apt-get purge?
[03:39] <lordcirth> Twst5, if that's all you installed, that should work.  There's also a program called 'ppa-purge' that might be useful
[03:39] <GlammaGeek> I've tried all sorts of things and asked on StackExchange but I'm getting desperate.
[03:40] <lordcirth> GlammaGeek, you're trying to assemble the raid in software?
[03:40] <artyx> raid 0  ?
[03:40] <Twst5> lordcirth: Thanks. I'll look at that as another option.
[03:40] <GlammaGeek> Yes.  I'm pretty sure the customer messed something up trying to fix it himself, but I'm not sharp enough to figure out what to do.
[03:41] <GlammaGeek> I don't know the chat etiquette, so is it appropriate to ask that here?
[03:43] <artyx> so ... it (the dual drive enclosure) quit working? aany more details?
[03:44] <GlammaGeek> Yup.  I'm trying to find my post.
[03:48] <Twst5> lordcirth: So. Since its youtube-dl-gui, so there is nothing nothing to revert back to ppa-purge is unnecessary?
[03:48] <GlammaGeek> http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/308532/cant-retrieve-data-from-a-raid-array
[03:49] <lordcirth> Twst5, probably
[03:50] <lordcirth> GlammaGeek, as the answers on that post say, Linux won't have software to emulate a WD proprietary raid controller.
[03:50] <lordcirth> GlammaGeek, contact WD or a data recovery company if you really need the data.  And next time, backups.
[03:50] <artyx> GlammaGeek: Strictly from a non *nix perspective .... Theres a tool ive used with great success on raid stripe recovery ...
[03:51] <artyx> but .. you need lots of drive space to use it, since you need to rip each drive seperately to a bin file, then analyze hte bins for data
[03:51] <artyx> so you need at least 5N free space where N == drive size
[03:52] <artyx> and ive had recoveries where i needed like 40N space to get a good read
[03:54] <infectiious> GlammaGeek: happy birthday GlammaGeek seeing as nobody else did.
[03:54] <GlammaGeek> Wow!  I didn't realize I had received a response so quickly!!!  Lorcirth, these drives belong to a customer who brought them to me when he couldn't figure it out.
[03:55] <Bashing-om> Twst5: Maybe better ' sudo add-apt-repository --remove ppa:someppa/ppa ' ?
[03:57] <Twst5> Bashing-om: Thats another way. will learn.
[03:57] <bumblefuzz> I'm booted right now on my USB drive and I'm trying to install Ubuntu
[03:57] <GlammaGeek> Thank you infectilious!  the fact that I'd rather be trying to recover RAID arrays instead of going out getting drunk with my friends is sad...LOL
[03:57] <bumblefuzz> I selected the try ubuntu without installing option at boot
[03:57] <bumblefuzz> but I've been having trouble installing
[03:57] <bumblefuzz> every time I try, the install hangs
[03:58] <orlock> GlammaGeek: You are amongst friends here....
[03:58] <artyx> GlammaGeek: but the $50-200/hr never hurts =)
[03:58] <orlock> GlammaGeek: Do you have the spare disk space to image the drive(s)?
[03:58] <bumblefuzz> can someone help me troubleshoot the install?
[03:58] <GlammaGeek> bumblefuzz, are you doing a UEFI install?
[03:59] <bumblefuzz> I'm not sure
[03:59] <GlammaGeek> Awwwww... You guys are so sweet!  I feel at home already.
[03:59] <bumblefuzz> right now, I'm booted into the live disc on my USB drive
[03:59] <GlammaGeek> Are you trying to do a dual boot on a PC, or just a single boot?
[04:00] <bumblefuzz> singleboot
[04:00] <bumblefuzz> I just selected erase disk and install ubuntu
[04:00] <GlammaGeek> Have you changed to a legacy boot/CSM in your bios?
[04:00] <artyx> GlammaGeek: Ive had really really good success with "Raid Reconstructor" its like $100 ....the output would be a disk image you can mount and copy out
[04:00] <bumblefuzz> my bios says it supports both
[04:00] <artyx> but it takes HOURS ...
[04:00] <bumblefuzz> I'm not having trouble booting
[04:00] <orlock> GlammaGeek: from what i can tell the Worldbook is just a single disk NAS server?
[04:00] <GlammaGeek> Oh!  artyx.  I think I'll try that...
[04:00] <bumblefuzz> I'm having trouble installing
[04:01] <Bashing-om> Twst5: Better : ' sudo apt-get autoremove --purge package-name ;  sudo add-apt-repository --remove ppa:someppa/ppa ; sudo apt-get autoclean ' .
[04:02] <orlock> GlammaGeek: Ahh, i see the raid versions. DO you know what level it was configured as?
[04:02] <GlammaGeek> bumblefuzz, boot into your bios/uefi and change your boot to legacy/csm then try again.  If you want UEFI boot, you're gonna have to let the install crash then use a boot-repair live disk/usb.
[04:02] <artyx> orlock: If it was raid 1, it'd be booting!
[04:02] <GlammaGeek> orlock, I have no frigging idea.  That's why I'm so stumped.  I can't seem to get any viable info.
[04:03] <orlock> And if it's raid0, then he's boned anyway
[04:03] <orlock> The My Book Premium II, My Book Pro II, and My Book Studio II external hard drives are pre-configured for RAID 0 (Striped) mode for maximum capacity and accelerated performance.
[04:03] <orlock> WTF
[04:04] <orlock> That's a horrible thing to do
[04:04] <artyx> as long as say the controller/power supply died, and the drives are good you MIGHT be able to recover, trial for software costs nothin, so if theres nothing to recover, you wont pay
[04:05] <orlock> I'm a bit suprised if they don't just run linux
[04:05] <GlammaGeek> Great suggestion artyx.  Nothing to lose.
[04:06] <GlammaGeek> My gut was telling me it was RAID 0, but I couldn't find a way to confirm.
[04:06] <orlock> GlammaGeek: Looks like thtas the default unless changed.
[04:07] <GlammaGeek> Yup.  The customer just brought me the drives and nothing else.  He said one failed so he ordered another horrible WD Green and tried to replace it.  After he said that, all I heard was "blah blah blah..."
[04:08] <orlock> yeah - raid0 means you do not care about your data
[04:09] <orlock> my fileserver runs raid0 and raid1 on two 3tb drives
[04:09] <orlock> 2tb on each disk is mirrored, for 2tb storage
[04:09] <orlock> and then 1tb on each disk is striped, for another 2tb
[04:09] <orlock> so 2tb of stuff i care about, and 2tb of stuff i dont
[04:10] <artyx> GlammaGeek: Have you ever done drive repair ?
[04:11] <artyx> like .. swapping out pcb's, reading and duplicating indexes, etc
[04:12] <GlammaGeek> artyx: No.  I tried once and made things worse.
[04:12] <artyx> orlock: my home "server" is a poweredge 2950 with raid 50 , it spins up ESXI as a hypervisor
[04:12] <GlammaGeek> SWEET!
[04:13] <orlock> artyx: low power atom system here, though i'm migrating it to something more capable running in an old Optiplex 990 case
[04:13] <artyx> Its not the prettiest, but it survives drive failures .. as long as 2 of the 3 drives in any one set dont die simultaneously, im golden
[04:13] <artyx> the downside was i had to replace every fan in that case .. they were all like 74db
[04:13] <orlock> but of course, raid is not backups
[04:13] <orlock> even sometimes backups are not backups
[04:13] <artyx> no, its for making sure your available at all times
[04:14] <artyx> No downtime, as long as the perc doesnt die
[04:14] <orlock> i have about a dozen rack mount servers at home i never power on
[04:14] <artyx> Too loud ?
[04:14] <orlock> they just keep the rack stable for the 3d printer in it
[04:14] <artyx> BALLAST lmao
[04:14] <orlock> Honestly, no need
[04:14] <orlock> yeah, literally just ballast
[04:15] <orlock> sorry, half a dozen, not a dozen
[04:15] <GlammaGeek> Well guys.  I'm gonna bow out and try some of the suggestions.  I really wanna get this done.  Thanks so much for being so hospitable.
[04:15] <orlock> i'm not greedy
[04:15] <artyx> GlammaGeek: The recovery of raid 0 is DEPENDANT on all drives being functional
[04:16] <orlock> GlammaGeek: personally, ui'd DD each disk just to test the viability of the physical media
[04:16] <artyx> If the customer swapped out the drive, put the old drive back in .. use a usb cradle, rip a bin of the drive, THEN you would use raid reconstructor to analyze the bins .. never work on teh drives themselves. yadda yadda
[04:16] <artyx> good luck
[04:16] <orlock> what artyx said
[04:16] <orlock> and tiple check you are dumping FROM the client disks, not TO them
[04:17] <artyx> dd if=CLIENT DISK of=YOUR FILE
[04:17] <GlammaGeek> That was exactly my plan.  I just hate to do so much work on the drives then can't charge if I can't recover anything.
[04:17] <artyx> bs=10M at least if your using linux and usb
[04:17] <GlammaGeek> I love dd
[04:17] <artyx> Thats the difference in 3 days of copying ;)
[04:17] <artyx> At least, with an 80gb hdd it was hte difference in 3 days
[04:17] <orlock> artyx: wasted a few days before i knew that
[04:18] <artyx> GlammaGeek: And in future, have a data waiver ....Recovery attempts cost itme, that costs money
[04:18] <orlock> cloning desktops for a netcafe in th 90's
[04:18] <artyx> orlock: Wow ... I feel for you, i learned that when i was setting up my first quad core mail server .. and duping spool drives from smaller systems
[04:19] <artyx> It was some monstrous 4xslot-1 system
[04:19] <orlock> obscure beast then
[04:19] <artyx> it was a computational node built by someone
[04:19] <orlock> slot1 was kind of abandoned for SMP
[04:19] <artyx> cant remember hte company
[04:19] <artyx> Predates smp ... postdates the N cube
[04:20] <orlock> so it likely had some proprietary motherboard chipset i guess?
[04:20] <artyx> Yeh ... probably supermicro somethingrather
[04:20] <GlammaGeek> I am MOST DEF gonna draft a data waiver.  BRILLIANT!
[04:20] <orlock> SMP was around before then
[04:20] <artyx> GlammaGeek: Live, and learn!
[04:20] <orlock> but it wasnt functional for the Slot1 boards
[04:20] <artyx> Maybe it was just risers , not slot 1.. :(
[04:20] <artyx> It was definitely slots on the board where the cpus plugged in
[04:20] <orlock> HX Pentium chipset supported it, and the PPro's did as well
[04:21] <artyx> the thing i remember most is the styrofoam fills with the 12 fans
[04:21] <orlock> but they kinda dropped it for P2's
[04:21] <GlammaGeek> You guys are great.  I hope I catch you guys again when I'm not stressed.  I'll be older tho  LOL
[04:21]  * orlock used to have a Bp6, dual socket Celeron board
[04:21] <artyx> I loved bh6 @ 300a
[04:21] <orlock> artyx: cooling manifolds?
[04:21] <GlammaGeek> Ciao!
[04:22] <orlock> artyx: do you remember "Gentus" linux?
[04:22] <artyx> orlock: Yeah .. the forced air basically created ducts out of styrofoam
[04:22] <artyx> ......... Its ringing a bell, but i cant think ..wasnt that an embedded somethingrather for old consumer boards ?
[04:22] <orlock> Abit doing a search and replace of Redhat/Gentus, and adding some specialised drivrs for their hardware sensors
[04:24] <artyx> that wasnt the first gui one for abit ?
[04:24] <artyx> like if no hdd present, it booted that
[04:24] <orlock> nah, it ws a full installabble redhat rebrand
[04:24] <artyx> Okay, then no, i do not remember
[04:24] <artyx> =)
[04:24] <orlock> it was before they started embedding OS's in the bios
[04:24] <artyx> so what WAS that crappy red bios interface with mouse clicks
[04:25] <artyx> that had firefox
[04:25] <orlock> no idea
[04:25] <orlock> this thing was back in '99 or something
[04:25] <orlock> I have installed samba on ubuntu on windows
[04:25] <artyx> hmm nfc . i was a first.l@redhat.com back in 99
[04:26] <artyx> red hat 6.0 .You havent lived till you walked a 90 yr old lady through setting up winmodem in rh 6
[04:26] <artyx> over the phone of course
[04:26] <orlock> and now you are part of the alphabet borg?
[04:27] <orlock> i started using redhat with 3.0.3, slackware before that
[04:27] <artyx> orlock: I received an offer to durham, became persona non grata to the co i worked for .. so I went and found th eholy grail for 14 yrs of work, net/sysadmin for a nonprofit scientific research
[04:28] <artyx> yeah ..it worked like .. suport mgr came to town ..gave us rhce exam .. everyone who passed got an offer, anyone who got an offer got s-listed with the call center
[04:29] <orlock> Durham UK?
[04:29] <artyx> North Carolina, USA
[04:30] <artyx> now i do net admin for a marketing company :(
[04:30] <henesy> running ubuntu 16.04 x64, after locking the screen through unity my second monitor does not wake up. Opening Displays in System Settings and hitting Apply without changing any settings refreshes the screens and then wakes the second monitor up
[04:30] <kogmo> !ubuntu
[04:31] <henesy> not sure if any packages that would affect this have been installed but it started only recently
[04:31] <henesy> intel graphics fwiw
[04:31] <orlock> artyx: sysadmin for a company that makes pathology instrumentation for cancer diagnosis
[04:31] <henesy> not quite sure where to go after reconfiguring x, unity, and compiz
[04:32] <henesy> potentially unrelated, but compiz locks up sometimes and has to be killed
[04:32] <artyx> orlock: Do you get NIH funded?
[04:32] <artyx> well s/you/your company
[04:32] <orlock> artyx: Not in the USA
[04:33] <orlock> and i have no idea anyway
[04:33] <bumblefuzz> can someone explain to me why I can't import this key? https://www.enpass.io/kb/how-to-install-on-linux/
[04:33] <bumblefuzz> it keeps saying broken pipe
[04:34] <artyx> copy and paste command you used in here
[04:34] <artyx> preferably from "history"
[04:34] <bumblefuzz> wget -O - http://repo.sinew.in/keys/enpass-linux.key | apt-key add -
[04:34] <bumblefuzz> don't know how to get it from history
[04:35] <artyx> type "history"
[04:35] <artyx> Make sure what you just pasted to irc channel is exactly what you typed in shell ...
[04:35] <orlock> pastebin is good
[04:35] <bumblefuzz>    15  wget -O - http://repo.sinew.in/keys/enpass-linux.key | apt-key add -
[04:35] <bumblefuzz>    16  wget -O - http://repo.sinew.in/keys/enpass-linux.key | apt-key add
[04:35] <bumblefuzz>    17  wget -O- http://repo.sinew.in/keys/enpass-linux.key | apt-key add
[04:35] <bumblefuzz>    18  wget -O - http://repo.sinew.in/keys/enpass-linux.key | apt-key add -
[04:36] <artyx> oops
[04:36] <orlock> .. thats why pastebin is good...
[04:36] <bumblefuzz> didn't expect that
[04:36] <bumblefuzz> anyway those are my commands
[04:36] <artyx> I didnt expect more than 4 lines to be spit back either, so we're even
[04:37] <bumblefuzz> wtf?
[04:37] <orlock> wow
[04:37] <orlock> since when did they start doing that?
[04:38] <artyx> autokick ?
[04:38] <orlock> yeah
[04:38] <orlock> its that bot, Sigyn
[04:41] <artyx> ouch
[04:45]  * dax sighs
[04:45] <jak2000> http://pastebin.com/bY2gbBT4      how to add more space........
[04:45] <bazhang> jak2000, gparted
[04:46] <jak2000> is a lvm
[04:46] <bazhang> same answer as before
[04:46] <jak2000> see please the pastebin
[04:46] <jak2000> no gui installed
[04:46] <bazhang> is this debian jak2000
[04:48] <dax> orlock: it's a network bot that attempts to handle spam (which it failed at this time, and the original k-line has been corrected), open proxies, etc.
[04:49] <dax> orlock: usually it works fine. occasionally, that sort of thing happens and someone from staff pokes at it :)
[04:49] <batphone> holy crap theres a lot of people in here
[04:53] <sweb> any experience using this laptop with ubuntu ? http://shop.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/ideapad/700-series/700-15-inch/
[04:53] <sweb> Lenovo IdeaPad 700 - A - 15 inch Laptop
[04:54] <deeps_> Hi all! I am new to IRC. This problem suddenly came that when I open my ubuntu 14.04 LTS it starts flickring. I am able to see and operate everything but the screen is flickering. May be beacuse of this system speed is also affected. Can anyone help?
[04:54] <guardianL> hi
[04:55] <lotuspsychje> sweb: in most cases ubuntu performs well on hardware
[04:55] <lotuspsychje> deeps_: is your system up to date to latest?
[04:56] <lotuspsychje> deeps_: check lsb_release -a to make sure?
[04:57] <deeps_> lotuspsychje: Yes it is, Infact Its been 1 month that I had installed ubuntu. It was working fine but today suddenly when I OPENEd my laptop the screen starts flickring in UBuntu os.
[04:58] <guardianL> i would try plugging it in to a monnitor
[04:58] <Nate_> hello
[04:59] <lotuspsychje> deeps_: whats the output of lsb_release -a please?
[04:59] <deeps_> lotuspsychje: I had operated this command on terminal. The output is: No LSB modules are available. Distributor ID:	Ubuntu Description:	Ubuntu 14.04.5 LTS Release:	14.04 Codename:	trusty
[04:59] <Nate_> is this where i would ask questions about driver errors?
[05:00] <lotuspsychje> deeps_: ok, uname -a ?
[05:00] <lotuspsychje> Nate_: yes, anything related to ubuntu
[05:00] <lotuspsychje> !info linux-image-generic trusty
[05:00] <deeps_> It gives: Linux deepti-HP-Notebook 3.13.0-95-generic #142-Ubuntu SMP Fri Aug 12 17:00:09 UTC 2016 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[05:00] <guideX> how well does ubuntu work for the Raspberry Pi 0
[05:00] <Nate_> alright i cant seem to get my second monitor to display and it seems that ubuntu doesnt recognize my old integrated graphics card
[05:00] <lotuspsychje> deeps_: ok tnx, have you tried to bootup a previous kernel?
[05:01] <lotuspsychje> !arm | guideX try here mate
[05:01] <Nate_> its also weird since when i restart it the splash screen does display
[05:01] <guideX> thanks
[05:01] <Nate_> and it recognises that i have a second monitor since i can drag files over it
[05:01] <Nate_> its just a black screen
[05:02] <Nate_> ubuntu version 16.04 and the intel card is "intel HD Graphics 3000"
[05:02] <lotuspsychje> Nate_: ubuntu version?
[05:02] <lotuspsychje> kk
[05:02] <lotuspsychje> Nate_: up to date to 16.04.1?
[05:02] <Nate_> i believe so i downloaded it today
[05:02] <deeps_> lotuspsychje:I had upgraded it yesterday using sudo apt-get upgrade. But I had cancelled it in between. Does the problem came due to this reason?
[05:03] <lotuspsychje> deeps_: updates/upgrades cancel is never a good idea, but not sure its related
[05:03] <lotuspsychje> deeps_: can you make sure you sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade now?
[05:03] <F1R4K> im trying to use cairo-dock but my original unity dock is still visible. how can I get rif of the original dock?
[05:04] <lotuspsychje> F1R4K: auto hide unity dock?
[05:05] <lotuspsychje> deeps_: try booting a previous kernel from grub perhaps as test?
[05:06] <F1R4K> lotuspsychej: and turn reveal sensitivity to 0?
[05:08] <lotuspsychje> F1R4K: perhaps more options to tweak with unity-tweak-tool or ccsm?
[05:09] <jak2000> not understand why: lvextend -l +4940 /dev/localhost-vg/root  say me: Size of logical volume localhost-vg/root changed from 9.31 GiB (2383 extents) to 28.61 GiB (7323 extents).    but never never i see the ne space with: in df -h     any advice?
[05:09] <Nate_> also my mouse flickers and sometimes disappears entirely  making it quite hard to click things
[05:10] <lotuspsychje> Nate_: whats the output of lsb_release -a please?
[05:11] <Nate_> uh ill boot back into ubuntu and check thanks
[05:13] <deeps_> lotuspsychje: Thanks. Problem is solved.
[05:14] <lotuspsychje> deeps_: how?
[05:14] <F1R4K> lotuspsychej: ill check out unity tweak. i didnt know if there was a way to just get rid of it
[05:15] <F1R4K> lotuspsychej: thanks for the tips tho
[05:15] <lotuspsychje> F1R4K: unity dock is part of the system, getting totaly rid of it, not sure if its a good idea
[05:17] <F1R4K> lotuspsychej: good call
[05:17] <F1R4K> lotuspsychej: i know NOTHING about linux
[05:17] <F1R4K> but i love it already
[05:17] <lotuspsychje> F1R4K: there's also docky as lightweight dock alternative
[05:18] <Nate_> hmmm
[05:18] <Nate_> unfortunately it seems ive damaged something
[05:19] <Nate_> i pasted some command i cant remember earlier into the terminal and now i have to boot in safe mode or it doesnt boot
[05:19] <Nate_> also the wifi seems to not connect anymore
[05:19] <deeps_> The problem was with the upgrade command only that I had stopped it yesterday in between. Now I have run "sudo dpkg --configure -a". After that I updated again.
[05:20] <Nate_> on the other hand the mouse issue seems to have resolved itself so thats nice
[05:21] <deeps_> lotuspsychje: The problem was with the upgrade command only that I had stopped it yesterday in between. Now I have run "sudo dpkg --configure -a". After that I updated again.
[05:21] <hiya> they guys I want to know in ufw can we add ip-ranges like this
[05:21] <lotuspsychje> !yay | deeps_
[05:21] <hiya> 192.168.0.10-192.168.0.20
[05:21] <hiya> like we add ip-ranges in ufw like this ^
[05:22] <hiya> or we need netmask?
[05:22] <hiya>  /29 etc?
[05:22] <dieWeltIstSchlec> Cheers!
[05:23] <Nate__> oh hey the wifi works now
[05:23] <Nate__> also this was what i got
[05:23] <Nate__> No LSB modules are available. Distributor ID:	Ubuntu Description:	Ubuntu 16.04.1 LTS Release:	16.04 Codename:	xenial
[05:23] <artyx> hiya: you can use cidr blocks in ufw
[05:24] <hiya> artyx, What if I have to add 192.168.0.10-.20
[05:24] <hiya> how to do it?
[05:24] <lotuspsychje> !yay | Nate__
[05:27] <artyx> hiya: You mean the first usable ip is 10, and hte last is 20 ?
[05:27] <artyx> So 9->21 ?
[05:28] <dieWeltIstSchlec> Suddenly sudo is not prompting for password when used in script and says "no premission" but it works in the shell ???
[05:29] <r0b-> is it safe to do a release upgrade:
[05:29] <r0b-> from 14.04 to 16.04?
[05:29] <dieWeltIstSchlec> idk, but i prefer always clean install
[05:30] <r0b-> well clean install is not an option
[05:30] <r0b-> its a production system.
[05:30] <deeps_> lotuspsychje: ubottu Thanks :) But the problem doesn't end here. Now when I insert pendrive in my laptop its option is not visible in my filesystem.
[05:30] <hiya> artyx, I want to add 192.168.0.10-.20
[05:30] <hiya> artyx, all of them are usuable only
[05:31] <r0b-> I got a notification that support for what i am using ended a month ago..
[05:32] <Bashing-om> safe? many many Have ,, read the release notes, 14.04 fully updated and as close to default as possible - no proprieatary drivers . and have at it .
[05:33] <r0b-> ugh before doing this i should make sure some of my software works. I kind of have stuff that is important.
[05:33] <dieWeltIstSchlec> why will you upgrade now? 14.04 support ends in 2019
[05:33] <dieWeltIstSchlec> i went back to 14.04 ^^
[05:34] <r0b-> I am using 14.04 desktop. not server.
[05:34] <dieWeltIstSchlec> me to
[05:34] <Bashing-om> r0b-: support for the wily HWE on 14.04  is ended . 14.04 goes on .
[05:35] <r0b-> ?
[05:35] <dieWeltIstSchlec> oO
[05:35] <r0b-> so i should just ignore the warning for upgrade?
[05:35] <Bashing-om> !hwe | r0b-
[05:35] <artyx> hiya: I'd suggest finding a cidr that overlaps with minimum excess, you are usin a non standard ip block .. whats the ip config on the machines, 255.255.255.???
[05:35] <artyx> What network, what netmask
[05:35] <r0b-> thats what it was saying..
[05:36] <hiya> artyx, ok thanks
[05:36] <Nate__> so i modified some sort of config file earlier and i dont remember what and i just pasted into it what someone told me to
[05:36] <Nate__> now when i boot it hangs on a blank screen with this message
[05:37] <Nate__> >>/dev/sda5: clean, 21758/3057824 files, 1500295/1224512 blocks
[05:37] <Nate__> not exactly but very similar
[05:37] <r0b-> so i should just install the HWE for 16.04?
[05:37] <artyx> hiya: If you absolutely, positively, cannot re address the machines to accomplish your purposes, for 11 ips, i'd just put in 11 firewall allow lines
[05:37] <dieWeltIstSchlec> never change a running system^^
[05:38] <Bashing-om> r0b-: What kernel are you booting ? 4.2 needs updating . ' uname -r '
[05:38] <r0b-> dieWeltIstSchlec, ??
[05:38] <r0b-> 4.2...
[05:38] <hiya> artyx, yes, individual lines
[05:38] <hiya> I get it
[05:38] <Bashing-om> !wily | r0b-
[05:38] <r0b-> so i should update my HWE...
[05:39] <r0b-> I have 14.04... :|
[05:39] <elias_a> Oops...
[05:40] <Bashing-om> r0b-: Yeah .. maybe ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt full-upgrade ' might do it ??
[05:40] <r0b-> 14.04.5..
[05:41] <r0b-> eh...
[05:41] <r0b-> ubuntu says sudo do-release-upgrade
[05:41] <dieWeltIstSchlec> hey why i can execute sudo in shell but have no premission when execute sudo inside a  bash script
[05:42] <Bashing-om> r0b-: `: Yeah in 14.04 you are running wily's kernel, that is what is end of life .
[05:42] <r0b-> so i should upgrade to the 16.04 kernel and call it a day..
[05:42] <Bashing-om> r0b-: do-release-upgrade will take you to 16.04 !
[05:42] <r0b-> i know
[05:43] <r0b-> i guess y0l0
[05:44] <r0b-> here goes nothing..
[05:44] <r0b-> sigh and my GF has my 8GB USB so im kind of fucked if it fails :(
[05:45] <dieWeltIstSchlec> gdamn it why i cant execute sudo inside scripts anymore???
[05:46] <OerHeks> please guys, watch your language, keep this channel family friendly, thanks.
[05:46] <r0b-> sigh maybe ill wait this this weekend and just clean install.. soffy OerHeks
[05:46] <dieWeltIstSchlec> sry
[05:46] <r0b-> sorry..
[05:47] <Bashing-om> r0b-: You do not have to release upgrade ; you can remain on 14.04 and install the HWE xenial stack on 14.04 .
[05:47] <OerHeks> a script with sudo needs to be run with sudo?
[05:47] <r0b-> yea lets just do that..
[05:47] <dieWeltIstSchlec> when i put sudo inside script it says no premission
[05:47] <r0b-> way to much effort to do the upgrade
[05:48] <dieWeltIstSchlec> but in terminal it prompts for pw
[05:48] <r0b-> ty
[05:49] <EriC^^> dieWeltIstSchlec: maybe you're putting it after the part that needs sudo
[05:50] <dieWeltIstSchlec> no eaven when i put only sudo su in a file it doesnt work
[05:51] <EriC^^> dieWeltIstSchlec: did you chmod +x it?
[05:51] <dieWeltIstSchlec> lol yes scripts are running but sudo says inside script no premission
[05:52] <dieWeltIstSchlec> and is not prompting for pw
[05:53] <dieWeltIstSchlec> i chowned my home directory recursive few days ago could this be the reason
[05:53] <EriC^^> paste an example
[05:54] <dieWeltIstSchlec> for i in {0..3} ; do sudo echo powersave > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu"$i"/cpufreq/scaling_governor ; done
[05:54] <EriC^^> nah
[05:54] <EriC^^> sudo something > file doesn't work
[05:54] <dieWeltIstSchlec> in terminal it works
[05:54] <EriC^^> you can do echo ... | sudo tee /file
[05:54] <zaki> hello
[05:54] <EriC^^> dieWeltIstSchlec: nope
[05:55] <zaki> is there any irc channel for ubuntu-wiki?
[05:57] <lotuspsychje> !alis | zaki
[05:58] <dieWeltIstSchlec> holy crap u right
[05:59] <dieWeltIstSchlec> sudo sh -c 'echo powersave > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor'
[05:59] <dieWeltIstSchlec> this works omg
[05:59] <EriC^^> great
[05:59] <dieWeltIstSchlec> i feel like an idiot
[06:00] <dieWeltIstSchlec> thanks
[06:01] <EriC^^> no problem
[06:03] <sebsebseb> hi
[06:03] <EriC^^> hi
[06:03] <sebsebseb> EriC^^: hi
[06:04] <dieWeltIstSchlec> aiiii
[06:04] <sebsebseb> dieWeltIstSchlec: aiii
[06:04] <sebsebseb> whats a irishfromua :d
[06:05] <dieWeltIstSchlec> i suppouse irishformula was in use
[06:05] <dieWeltIstSchlec> ^^
[06:05] <sebsebseb> dieWeltIstSchlec: yeah exactly it doesn't say formula
[06:12] <Kartagis> iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 80 -m limit --limit 25/minute --limit-burst 100 -j ACCEPT <--- shouldn't that ACCEPT be DROP really?
[06:14] <lotuspsychje> Kartagis: perhaps the #netfilter guys can help on that?
[06:15] <mib> Kartagis, ??
[06:15] <Kartagis> mib: !!
[06:16] <mib> Kartagis, OUTPUT > dport
[06:17] <Kartagis> what should that tell me?
[06:17] <mib> Kartagis, INPUT < sport
[06:17] <Kartagis> again, what should that tell me?
[06:19] <mib> Kartagis, i think your table is wrong?
[06:19] <mib> Kartagis, ip*
[06:20] <Kartagis> mib: I have other INPUT rules with dport, and they work fine
[06:22] <mib> Kartagis, OK, but use Wireshark or Tcpdump and follow the packet
[06:24] <apb1963_> so if you were a boot image waiting to be copied onto a USB stick... with "cp name.iso /dev/sdc" what would your name be and where would you live if you were version 16.04?
[06:25] <ducasse> apb1963_: ubuntu-16.04-desktop-amd64.iso ?
[06:26] <apb1963_> that was my second choice... my first was mini.iso
[06:26] <apb1963_> I suppose that might be a better choice because then I can run it live, right?
[06:27] <apb1963_> whereas mini is only going to let me install to hd??
[06:27] <OerHeks> mini iso has no live mode
[06:27] <apb1963_> there ya go..  Question answered.  Thank you
[06:27] <apb1963_> 6 minutes to iso
[06:27] <OerHeks> and you need wired networking, no wifi
[06:29] <apb1963_> hmm
[06:29] <apb1963_> I have one machine wired and one wireless
[06:29] <apb1963_> and... the one I'm trying to install is wireless of course.
[06:30] <apb1963_> well thats a headache
[06:31] <apb1963_> I guess I can plug in a cable.... hmmm... but that means I have to mess with the network settings doesn't it.
[06:32] <apb1963_> Nothing is ever easy
[06:32] <FsIL> Hello
[06:32] <sebsebseb> FsIL: hi
[06:34] <lotuspsychje> apb1963_: what chipset is your wifi?
[06:36] <FsIL> what is the idea of this chanel ?
[06:36] <cfhowlett> !topic | FsIL
[06:54] <Surfer2010> Web browser gallery which saves tags given to a picture in the files and not a db
[06:54] <Surfer2010> Anyone an idea what to use
[06:54] <Surfer2010> Like a combination of picapport and exiftool
[07:03] <Silaban> Lol
[07:18] <antiTORTURE> Most psychiatry deaths are caused by psychiatry's so-called medications. Psychiatry's most lethal drugs are the so-called anti­psychotic, anti-schizo­phrenic, major tranquilizer or neuro­leptic (nerve-seizing) drugs. All these terms are different names for the same group of drugs. Other types of psychiatric drugs also kill people, however.
[07:41] <Poirotti> hello. seems like my laptop (asus zenbook) battery doesn't charge properly. acpi says "Battery 0: Charging, 89%, charging at zero rate - will never fully charge." and when i unplug and plug again the charger then acpi says "Battery 0: Charging, 89%, 03:00:00 until charged" for like 10 seconds and then again "... will never fully charge". tried to uninstall tlp also but still the same behaviour. any ideas?
[07:42] <Poirotti> google didn't really help me either :)
[07:43] <cfhowlett> Poirotti, after a year of use, my battery will never fully charge either.  normal behavior for Li batteries.
[08:02] <Poirotti> cfhowlett: really? well mine is a one-year-old pc too. guess i'll have to accept it then :) but still it's weird it's able to charge for a few seconds when i unplug and plug again
[08:03] <cfhowlett> Poirotti, word of advice: get an OEM replacement battery not a 3rd party version.
[08:03] <cfhowlett> do DOES it charge to full after 3 hours?
[08:05] <Poirotti> cfhowlett: as it says: "charging at zero rate - will never fully charge" so it just stays at eg. 89%
[08:06] <Poirotti> when i replug a couple of times it gets to 90%
[08:15] <zerous> hi, I am using ubuntu gnome 16.04 and I am getting this error while trying to upgrade http://pastebin.com/0AnZs3Vi
[08:15] <Jinxer> google some stuff about battery cycles and leaving laptops plugged in 24/7
[08:15] <Jinxer> I don't know all the details but battery cycles is the subject your talking about
[08:16] <Jinxer> iirc at least
[08:17] <Poirotti> thanks Jinxer :)
[08:17] <zerous> Any hints on what I should do about it ?
[08:17] <k1l> zerous: try a "sudo apt install -f" first
[08:18] <zerous> k1l, I have already tried that
[08:18] <zerous> the pastebin shows the output of that command
[08:18] <k1l> zerous: is there a reason you install the 32bit libc6-dev on a 64bit OS?
[08:19] <zerous> k1l, I had tried to install ncurses 32 bit. But it isn't really essential. I can live without it.
[08:19] <k1l> zerous: well, we can force the install of that one package
[08:20] <zerous> k1l, how do I do it ?
[08:20] <zerous> will removing it fix it ?
[08:20] <zerous> I mean the 32 bit package ?
[08:22] <k1l> sudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/libc6-dev-i386_2.23-0ubuntu3_amd64.deb
[08:27] <f_> How to display screen on second screen by Xorg dummy video driver
[08:27] <f_> ?
[08:27] <f_> x11vnc
[08:44] <galt_> 6
[09:06] <EriC^^> ux
[09:47] <CFY> ?
[09:52] <ubuntu418> Hey All, Company is currently looking at hiring an additional nix' sys admin, fairly moderate level, can you guys point me in a direction of where I could possibly find decent tests to send to possible candidates to complete remotely and not be able to just simply google the answer? (apart from creating your own scenario and sending that off) thanks in advance
[09:53] <deepika> Deepu
[09:54] <joelio> ubuntu418: breaking systems (in say vagrant or something) and getting the candidate to fix is always insightful.. as it requires an understanding of the various components rather than just a direct series of questions
[09:55] <joelio> plus you can clone and use for all candidates easily
[09:57] <ubuntu418> joelio!! don't know why I haven't thought of that yet! :) thanks a bunch
[09:57] <joelio> :) np
[09:57] <ubuntu418> have a nice day further man / woman (dont want to assume gender as thats a thing these days too) ^^
[09:57] <joelio> haha, man :)
[09:57] <joelio> you too!
[09:57] <ubuntu418> lol :) cheers!
[09:58] <joelio> ubuntu418: you could share their sessions as well if you didn't want to peer over their shoulder when doing it - I know that can be of putting for some
[10:04] <daemon55> does anybody know if the dolphin file manager is good and stable for ubuntu
[10:08] <k1l> daemon55: why shouldnt it? its used by kubuntu since a long time
[10:09] <daemon55> so y6ou switched to it
[10:09] <daemon55> you*
[10:10] <k1l> no, because kde stuff pulls a lof of kde libs in. and i am fine with nautilus which is the standard filemanager on gnome based desktops
[10:11] <daemon55> k1l: so at your position your gonna stick around with a paperweight
[10:11] <daemon55> gnome took out all the features
[10:11] <k1l> no, not all features
[10:12] <k1l> but if you dont like nautilus use something different but dont judge me because i dont share your taste :/
[10:12] <daemon55> i wasnt judging you i was simply putting two and two
[10:13] <k1l> if you dont like the kde depencies you can look at thunar which is the xfce filemanager.
[10:13] <brunch875> I just made a desktop shortcut and dropped it in ~/.local/share/applications
[10:13] <daemon55> you assumed that i didnt like nautilus
[10:13] <brunch875> and now I realized there's the program desktop-file-install
[10:13] <brunch875> just what exactly does this thing do?
[10:13] <daemon55> its fine i just wanted your opinion thats all
[10:13] <k1l> daemon55: ok. good luck with your attitude and your issue. i am out of this game with you
[10:14] <daemon55> i dont have an attitude or issue i was wanting your approval to switch
[10:16] <hateball> daemon55: Dolphin is great. But so is all of KDE Plasma and SC compared to everything else, in my highly unobjective opinion
[10:17] <daemon55> hateball: do you have ubuntu installed
[10:18] <hateball> daemon55: I am running Kubuntu
[10:18] <daemon55> yup that says it all
[10:18] <daemon55> i just dont want my system to break
[10:19] <hateball> Nothing will break by pulling in kde-libs to use Dolphin
[10:19] <daemon55> are you certain of this?
[10:19] <hateball> But it does seem out of place, much like how I would not use Nautilus
[10:19] <hateball> Yes
[10:19] <daemon55> oh
[10:19] <alex_> hello guys!
[10:20] <brunch875> hello alex_!
[10:20] <victor_gusev> Hi!
[10:20] <nazzareno> Hi all
[10:28] <lapion> has anybody looked into doing updates while ubuntu is booted in recovery mode ?
[10:29] <lapion> systemd really borks things up in there..
[10:29] <k1l> lapion: why recovery? and what issues are there? and what issues are in regular boot?
[10:30] <lapion> starting and stopping braille devices ( I have none installed on my system ) as soon as the systemd starts buggering up it seems as though there are 2 consoles active in the same console..
[10:30] <lapyo> damn hilights
[10:30] <OerHeks> you can update after making the mount r/w, but i would peform ' Sudo dpkg --configure -a ' first.
[10:30] <lapion> and your typing goes into either one of the two
[10:31] <lapion> OerHeks, if logged into the recovery console systemd also starts buggering up and opens a second console in the same place as the original you cant see what your type but when you press enter something or another happens..
[10:32] <lapion> even two recovery menus overlaying each other ( one invisibly behind the other)
[10:33] <lapion> kil OerHeks the recovery console should be a bastion that allways works correct no matter what
[10:34] <lapion> or at least have the least bugs....
[10:34] <OerHeks> lapion, nasty, on what ubuntu version is this?
[10:35] <Exodious> how do i turn off this annoying dialog that appears every time i run chrome and it ask me for password i never set
[10:35] <lapion> on all ubuntus that have systemd
[10:36] <lapion> even on all *ubuntu*s
[10:36] <OerHeks> lapion, so you experience this on more than one machine, while a braille device is not attached?
[10:36] <lapion> braille is just one of the things that
[10:37] <lapion> s the most memorable ( I don't have or use one so it's out of place)
[10:37] <k1l> lapion: no. recovery is a reduced environment.
[10:37] <lapion> OerHeks, I have a lubuntu/ubuntu ubuntu-gnome ubuntu-ppc
[10:37] <k1l> lapion: so lets get some facts: what ubuntu is this exactly? what kernel is in use in recovery?
[10:38] <safari> Newbie
[10:38] <P3N1S-FUK> Hello
[10:38] <P3N1S-FUK> Fuck my penis
[10:38] <P3N1S-FUK> Fuck it good
[10:38] <safari> Hey
[10:38] <safari> Hehehe we cant do that
[10:39] <OerHeks> lapion, maybe this page is any help http://askubuntu.com/questions/731671/botched-upgrade-dpkg-hangs-on-started-braille-device-support
[10:39] <lapion> kil I have had this on every install since systemd is default in (lk)ubuntu(-gnome)
[10:40] <k1l> lapion: in general recovery works. so if you dont want to investigate why you have the issues you told us, then there is no point in just ranting in here.
[10:40] <OerHeks> never seen this issue, so i guess there is more wrong
[10:41] <lapion> OerHeks, this time systemd systemd did the following: "Stopped dailly apt services", "Started Braille Device Support", "Started Set Console keymap..." "Started Set Console Keymap"
[10:42] <lapion> in this case the problem arose with 16.04
[10:43] <lapion> kil I am not ranting I am making a point that this is not related to a single ubuntu variant or cpu platform
[10:45] <OerHeks> lapion, did you ever check the iso? or did you add any ppa?
[10:45] <k1l> lapion: what kernel is it in recovery? what video card and what driver? (this sounds like a frambuffer issue with the video glitches you told)
[10:46] <lapion> OerHeks, this is after first install.. also after doing all updates from a regular system.
[10:46] <lapion> kil it's not a misformed console that I get it's the systemd taking over the console and startign a new console on the same tty
[10:47] <OerHeks> well, see the url and there are many tips
[10:47] <OerHeks> (the only one i could find, so it is rare)
[10:48] <dancingd3mon> anyone know what is that error reaso : sudo chown -R dancingdemon:dancingdemon * && sudo chmod -R 755 *
[10:48] <dancingd3mon> chown: unrecognized option '--BIB--'
[10:48] <dancingd3mon> Try 'chown --help' for more information.
[10:51] <lapion> OerHeks, it is not rare I have been having similiar console problems while making backup of my system from a recovery console and a single user console..
[10:52] <lapion> OerHeks, kil sometimes it even happens after prolonged period on only having the recovery menu on screen
[10:53] <OerHeks> lapion, yes rare, you are the 1st one.
[10:53] <leeyaa> hi guys
[10:53] <k_sze[work]> How do I check which cronjobs are in effect?
[10:53] <AndChat517376> Hey,guys!
[10:53] <k_sze[work]> I don't mean running, I mean scheduled.
[10:53] <leeyaa> during release upgrade when I select the option that I dont want services to be restarted - how can I be sure that a service wont be really restarted ? nfs in particular
[10:54] <k_sze[work]> and across the whole system.
[10:55] <thingfish47> id there a forum for alsa, or an irc channel for alsa.  I'm a windows programmer needing to port audio stuff to ubuntu
[10:55] <leeyaa> thingfish47: try #linux
[10:56] <OerHeks> k_sze[work], ps uww -C cron
[10:56] <thingfish47> join #linux
[10:56] <thingfish47> how do i do that?
[10:56] <joelio> put a / at the start of what you typed
[10:56] <joelio>  /join ....
[10:56] <thingfish47> tyvm
[10:56] <joelio> np
[10:56] <k1l> !bug | lapion since you dont give more facts else claiming that its a common issue try to report a bug to bugtracker and see what the devs say
[10:57] <ducasse> dancingd3mon: i'm guessing there is a file named --BIB-- that is being picked up as an option
[10:57] <k_sze[work]> And why is it that when I do `service cron stop`, and then `service cron status`, I get `cron stop/waiting`, unlike other services that would give me, e.g. ` * rsync not running`?
[10:58] <dancingd3mon> how can I avoid this to have buddy ?
[10:58] <k_sze[work]> What's the difference between "stop/waiting" and just "not running"?
[10:59] <OerHeks> k_sze[work], service cron disable would give 'not running' i guess
[10:59] <ducasse> dancingd3mon: rename the file?
[10:59] <dancingd3mon> so there is a file in that directory named --BIB--
[10:59] <dancingd3mon> that is causing the issue?
[10:59] <dancingd3mon> in that directory that I'm trying to run the command from?
[10:59] <ducasse> dancingd3mon: or use find and escape or quote the filenames
[11:00] <k_sze[work]> OerHeks: "The scrip you are attempting to invoke has been converted to an Upstart job, but disable is not supported for Upstart jobs."
[11:00] <ducasse> dancingd3mon: i don't *know*, but it looks like it
[11:00] <dancingd3mon> may you tell me what is the correct command to use? I don't know how to use find command.
[11:00] <dancingd3mon> I mean what is the command to use to find a file or folder named --BIB--
[11:01] <ducasse> dancingd3mon: 'sudo find . -iname * -exec chown dancingdemon:dancingdemon "{}" \;' for example
[11:02] <joelio> can you even have a file/dir with that name?
[11:02] <ducasse> joelio: sure.
[11:03] <joelio> ah yea, just touch was thining it was a switch, lol
[11:03] <joelio> yea, sudo find / -name *--BIB--*
[11:03] <joelio> /home/vagrant/--BIB--]
[11:03] <joelio> cool
[11:04] <dancingd3mon> Thanks man :)
[11:05] <ducasse> joelio: 'touch -- "--bib--"' works fine.
[11:06] <dancingd3mon> thanks a lot, it works now
[11:07] <joelio> ducasse: yea, tried it in touch "---BIB---" and it threw an error, didn't try much more :) good to know
[11:07] <dancingd3mon> what made it to not work? just curious :) and what is the touch command purpose?
[11:08] <joelio> touch just updates a file's stamp or creates it if not existing already
[11:08] <joelio> man touch - for full info
[11:08]  * joelio chuckles
[11:09] <Anticom> Hi all. I was wondering, whether there is a package to (automatically) notify me on long running scripts / processes
[11:10] <Anticom> by automatically i don't mean i have to pre-/append anything (i don't want '<cmd> && notify') if possible
[11:11] <OerHeks> one way would be an alias to run that script && notify
[11:12] <geirha> dancingd3mon: when you run   somecmd *   the shell replaces * with all matching filenames in the current directory;  somecmd file1 file2 file3 ...   and then somecmd is run.  If one of the filenames start with -, the command may treat it as an option
[11:12] <OerHeks> or put that notify line at the end of each script that you decide.
[11:13] <geirha> dancingd3mon: a common trick to avoid filenames starting with - to cause issues is to prepend ./ to the glob/file:  somecmd ./*
[11:13] <dancingd3mon> oh thanks man
[11:14] <Anticom> OerHeks: but i want it for make invokations aswell for example.
[11:14] <dancingd3mon> so if i want to run this command in a directory with files starting with --
[11:14] <dancingd3mon> I have to make this : sudo chown -R dancingdemon:dancingdemon * && sudo chmod -R 755 *
[11:14] <Anticom> so i can't really append it there
[11:14] <dancingd3mon> I have to make this : sudo chown -R dancingdemon:dancingdemon ./* && sudo chmod -R 755 ./*
[11:14] <dancingd3mon> ?
[11:15] <OerHeks> Anticom, maybe someone else here has a better solution
[11:15] <geirha> dancingd3mon: Yes. Another way is to use a special -- argument, which most commands treat as "end-of-options", so   sudo chown -R dancingdaemon: -- *   would also work in this case
[11:15] <Anticom> I thought there was some package that does that but i can't remember its name
[11:16] <OerHeks> adding making invocations too, i am lost
[11:16] <dancingd3mon> nice thanks a loot
[11:16] <Anticom> OerHeks: well there's stuff like that: http://askubuntu.com/a/409766/382883
[11:17] <Anticom> but i don't really want to prepend anything aswell
[11:17] <Anticom> afaik there was a package that did this automatically for oyu
[11:17] <geirha> dancingd3mon: though when using chown with -R, you usually want to just pass it a directory to recurse through
[11:17] <joelio> you could do something like;
[11:17] <joelio> for t in $(ps aux | awk '{print $2}'); do echo "Process ${t}"; ps -p "${t}" -o etime=; done
[11:17] <joelio> to check pid and running time
[11:17] <joelio> better ways I assume
[11:18] <backbox> hi
[11:18] <dancingd3mon> thanks geirha
[11:18] <geirha> joelio: ps -eo pid,etime  no need for the loop
[11:18] <Anticom> joelio, OerHeks: FYI : https://launchpad.net/undistract-me
[11:19] <joelio> geirha: neat
[11:21] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:23] <OerHeks> Anticom, ah, thanks
[11:23] <Anticom> OerHeks: Hm, at least on xenial the repo seems to have some problems
[11:25] <Anticom> Oh, and also it uses the PROMT_COMMAND hack
[11:25] <Anticom> So it doesn't work for me anyways
[11:25] <BluesKaj> xenial doesn;t recognize the sdcard reader here or on my laptop
[11:27] <cenascool> MWAHAHAHAHAHA
[11:29] <OerHeks> BluesKaj, what is the lspci ID?
[11:33] <BluesKaj> OerHeks, lsusb gives Alcor Micro Corp. AU6375 4-LUN card reader
[11:34] <BluesKaj> OerHeks, it's hard to tell which device it is with lspci
[11:36] <Metamorphosis> any decent android emulators in ubuntu?
[11:37] <OerHeks> this one: ID 058f:6377 Alcor Micro Corp. AU6375 4-LUN card reader. ?
[11:37] <OerHeks> BluesKaj, oh, found it..
[11:37] <OerHeks>  usb reader turned out to be an outdated piece of hardware for SD capacities >2GB
[11:38] <OerHeks> https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1136196&page=2&s=65f56f1f08400dc7029a8ef35ac65123
[11:38] <lu_> hello, first using this
[11:38] <joelio> Metamorphosis: android studio ships with one? https://developer.android.com/studio/run/emulator.html
[11:40] <OerHeks> BluesKaj, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/366478
[11:41] <BluesKaj> OerHeks, my laptop from 2014 can't read the microsd card either, maybe because it's 64GB
[11:42] <LibertyWeNeed> This may be a little off topic. Does anyone know where I can watch the RIO 2016 Paralympic opening ceremony online?
[11:42] <OerHeks> Do you have a 1gb card laying around?
[11:42] <BluesKaj> no
[11:42] <OerHeks> LibertyWeNeed, in  rio, but you need to build a timetravelmachine
[11:42] <LibertyWeNeed> ONLINE
[11:43] <OerHeks> They have internet too ..
[11:43] <joelio> LibertyWeNeed: it depends where you live, laws apply
[11:43] <joelio> in UK it's on C4 (/me watched it last night)
[11:43] <OerHeks> It is hard to get tickets...
[11:44] <OerHeks> .. hi hi
[11:44] <joelio> lol
[11:45] <LibertyWeNeed> I really would like to see. If someone has a link to a US, UK, German, Australia, New Zealand, Canadian International link to view the opening ceremony of the Paralympics please share. PM me if you must
[11:47] <BluesKaj> LibertyWeNeed, go to a torent site , this is offtopic here
[11:47] <LibertyWeNeed> I don't know where to ask
[11:47] <meshuggah> ask google
[11:47] <k1l> !google | meshuggah
[11:48] <meshuggah> !kban k1l
[11:48] <meshuggah> :/
[11:48] <LibertyWeNeed> ubottu, thank you
[11:48] <k1l> LibertyWeNeed: in general if you already know its not ubuntu support related ask in #ubuntu-offtopic please.
[11:48] <lu_> who can tell me where am i
[11:49] <Myrtti> lu_: this is the Ubuntu Linux support IRC channel
[11:49] <k1l> lu_: this is the technical ubuntu support irc channel.
[11:49] <BluesKaj> OerHeks,I was able to format and install the respbian OS on a 32GB card with my laptop using a provided usb card reader, but the 32GB card died after too many writes , now the same usb reader is no longer recognized ory on either machine
[11:50] <superguest> I need help sharing a folder *which I own*.
[11:50] <superguest> http://www.digitalcitizen.life/how-access-ubuntu-shared-folders-windows-7
[11:50] <BluesKaj> OerHeks, with a 64GB card
[11:51] <superguest> In the above article it says, "We recommend that you only share folders found or created in the Home Folder because those are folders on which your username has ownership."
[11:51] <Metin> hello
[11:52] <ducasse> BluesKaj: 64gb cards are typically exfat, aren't they? do you have those packages installed?
[11:52] <superguest> In deed, I am able to share the "Public" folder under my home directory.
[11:52] <superguest> but I am having difficulty sharing a folder outside of my home directory.
[11:53] <Metin> guys, I have a problem, I want to install skype but it showed up dependency errors and want me to run apt-get -f install, but apt-get -f install wants to remove everything installed like unity?
[11:53] <k1l> Metin: can you put all the output on paste.ubuntu.com and show the link here?
[11:54] <BluesKaj> ducasse, this is a brand new microsd card , never been formatted I don't think
[11:55] <ducasse> BluesKaj: just a thought. it should still show up as a block device with lsblk.
[11:55] <BluesKaj> ducasse, yes I have exfat-utils installed
[11:55] <Metin> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23149886/ here the output
[11:56] <ducasse> BluesKaj: is it listed with lsblk?
[11:57] <Metin> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23149898/ this is the English output
[11:58] <BluesKaj> ducasse, no just the hdd partitions and sr0
[11:59] <k1l> Metin: strange that he wants to remove skype:i386 too
[11:59] <ducasse> BluesKaj: then i would suspect a problem with the reader. is this an external usb thing or internal?
[12:00] <lu_> I come from china ,where are you come from?
[12:00] <BluesKaj> ducasse, it's a card reader
[12:01] <ducasse> BluesKaj: yes, but internal to the pc or external?
[12:01] <lu_> admin
[12:02] <k1l> !ot | lu_
[12:03] <BluesKaj> ducasse, internal reader , but I'm using a sdcard adapter with microsd card inserted in it
[12:03] <ash_workz> does `a2ensite $site`  just do `ln -s sites-available/$site sites-enabled/`or is some other configuration done as well?
[12:04] <ducasse> BluesKaj: i don't think that would matter, i was thinking if it was external you could try reconnecting it or trying another cable. are other cards recognized?
[12:20] <the_CEO> ola
[12:20] <the_CEO> mundo
[12:20] <the_CEO> alguem aii ??
[12:20] <the_CEO> BR
[12:21] <the_CEO> kole lborda
[12:21] <the_CEO> tem alguem aii ??
[12:22] <Guest29801> i need help regarding updating my ubutu
[12:23] <Guest29801> it gives me error : pakage installation or removal failed
[12:23] <Metamorphosis> Update or upgrade?
[12:23] <Guest29801> update
[12:23] <Metamorphosis> go to terminal and type this : sudo apt-get update
[12:24] <Guest29801>  a minute
[12:24] <Peter___> Hello, can someone help me with a problem? I'm a ubuntu newbee...
[12:32] <ambar> can some one help me updating my system
[12:32] <ambar> i am getting error like failed to install or remove pakage
[12:33] <ambar> i tried sudo apt-get update, but it failed
[12:34] <ambar> HELP SOMEONE ON UPDATING MY SYSTEM
[12:35] <mlw> sudo apt-get -f install
[12:35] <mlw> try that first
[12:35] <ambar> I  WILL TRY THAT
[12:35] <ambar> WAIT A MINIUTE
[12:35] <OerHeks> !caps
[12:35] <ambar> sory
[12:35] <ohlaugh> hi. how can i list all installed packages from a given component (such as 'multiverse') only?
[12:36] <Arexss> hello
[12:36] <ambar> i got this error
[12:37] <mlw> What does it say?
[12:37] <ambar> Errors were encountered while processing:  grub-efi-amd64  grub-efi-amd64-signed  linux-image-4.4.0-36-generic  linux-image-extra-4.4.0-36-generic  linux-image-generic  linux-generic  linux-image-4.4.0-34-generic  linux-image-extra-4.4.0-34-generic  linux-signed-image-4.4.0-36-generic  linux-signed-image-generic  linux-signed-generic  linux-signed-image-4.4.0-34-generic E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[12:37] <OerHeks> ohlaugh, install synaptic, pretty good detailed softwarecenter
[12:37] <OerHeks> lots of filter options
[12:38] <ambar> a minute someone is at door
[12:38] <ash_workz> is there any way for dpkg to list only packages there are not, themselves, dependencies of another package?
[12:40] <mlw> ambar, sudo dpkg --configure -a
[12:40] <ambar> @mlw:  pls help on this
[12:40] <ohlaugh> OerHeks: i should have said, on command line
[12:40] <ohlaugh> OerHeks: i should have said, on a terminal
[12:40] <k1l> ambar: please put all the output you get on paste.ubuntu.com and show the link here
[12:42] <ambar> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23150019/
[12:42] <ambar> this is the link ; help
[12:43] <k1l> ambar: uh. you got quite a mess of PPAs there.
[12:43] <ash_workz> or maybe using apt-cache
[12:43] <ambar> help me get out of the mess
[12:44] <mlw> unity-launcher-folders?
[12:44] <mlw> unsigned as well.
[12:45] <ambar> @mlw: iwanted to group multiple icons into one
[12:45] <OerHeks> ambar, wild guess: your filesystem is mounted read only .. check it with this: touch something.txt # does this give a write error?
[12:45] <Penetration> hyyy
[12:45] <OerHeks> that explains no access to the key..
[12:45] <OerHeks> ( paa's are valid)
[12:46] <Penetration> i'm hacker from morocco . and you?
[12:46] <w1nt> всем привет помогите пожалуйста как посмотреть список открытых портов
[12:46] <svisor> anybody knows a good irc channels for exchanging ideas about configuring & managing linux web- and mailservers?
[12:46] <w1nt> и как порт (определеный открыть-закрыть)
[12:46] <OerHeks> svisor, #ubuntu-server
[12:47] <ambar> @k1l: wat do you suggest
[12:47] <ambar> @OerHeks: i didnt get wat to do exactly
[12:47] <k1l> ambar: please run "cat /etc/default/grub | nc termbin.com 9999"
[12:47] <OerHeks> touch somefile.txt makes an empty file.
[12:47] <mlw> OerHeks, wouldn't write-only prohibit him from running an update in the first place?
[12:47] <mlw> *read-only
[12:48] <OerHeks> mlw, it gives error on any new list, yes. that is what happended here too
[12:48] <k1l> ambar: afterwards show the url here please
[12:48] <ambar> @k1l: it didnt give any output in terminal
[12:49] <k1l> ambar: ok, then please show the output of "cat /etc/default/grub "
[12:49] <andrew__1> what's a good pdf editor for ubuntu?
[12:50] <ambar> my error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23150043/
[12:50] <mlw> andrew__1, is this for annotating pdfs?
[12:50] <andrew__1> yeah and I need to rotate one of the pages if possible?
[12:51] <alex_112> ly
[12:51] <mlw> andrew__1, I use for xournal for annotation, don't know if it supports rotating a page.
[12:52] <k1l> ambar: you did a mess to your grub defaults. look at the line 40 in that pastebin: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=""to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="3""    that doesnt work
[12:52] <andrew__1> Thanks mlw, I'll take a look
[12:52] <mlw> andrew__1, doesn't look like it
[12:53] <mlw> I primarily use it for doodling a signature
[12:53] <andrew__1> mlw, ah darn it.... I'll try and see if there are any web based options
[12:53] <k1l> ambar: change that back to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash"
[12:54] <ambar> how do i do it
[12:54] <k1l> ambar: sudo nano /etc/default/grub #the same way you made that mess
[12:55] <ohlaugh> How can you list, on a temrinal, all installed packages from a given component (such as 'multiverse') only?
[12:56] <ambar> is this ok: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash"to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="3"
[12:56] <k1l> ambar: no
[12:56] <ash_workz> I am confused about apt-cache
[12:56] <ash_workz> I am confused about apt-cache depends actually
[12:57] <ash_workz> what do the pipes before package names mean?
[12:57] <ambar> actually i was trying to solve some other problem... and this mess happened
[12:58] <ash_workz> I mean the pipes like in this example: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/570e433fde5b6b3737f96f2abd208b0e
[12:59] <ambar> ok i changed it : http://paste.ubuntu.com/23150072/
[13:00] <k1l> ambar: then run sudo apt-get install -f again
[13:00] <ambar> a min
[13:02] <ducasse> ash_workz: the pipe means "any one of these", i would imagine.
[13:03] <ambar> me error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23150075/
[13:04] <joelio> looks ok to me
[13:04] <ash_workz> is there a way to suppress headers for apt-cache?
[13:05] <eoli4n> hi
[13:05] <ducasse> ash_workz: do you mean the 'Depends:' etc?
[13:05] <ash_workz> yeah
[13:06] <ducasse> ash_workz: i don't think so, as they say what kind of dependency it is
[13:06] <eoli4n> i manage a pool of 800 nodes ubuntu 16.04 with ansible. Since 16.04, apt-get update failed without errors. It runs properly, but when i want to install some package, "cannot fetch", then if i manually remove /var/lib/apt/lists/* and /var/lib/apt/lists/partial/*, then re apt-get update, install, it works...
[13:07] <ash_workz> ducasse: I thought there might be since you're the one issuing the command, you'd probably know what you're looking for. But as an aside, my problem is ironically usually the exact opposite
[13:07] <ash_workz> (given that mentality)
[13:08] <ducasse> ash_workz: yes, but you want to know whether it is a depends, recommends or suggests etc.
[13:08] <ash_workz> i see
[13:08] <ash_workz> does rdepends have other categories?
[13:09] <ambar> k1l: help
[13:09] <Uyghur_Linux> how to learn rearch  linux kernel  >
[13:09] <ducasse> ash_workz: afaik, apt only knows those three, conflicts, breaks... those are the ones i can think of off-hand.
[13:10] <k1l> ambar: with what?
[13:10] <Uyghur_Linux> hello guys
[13:10] <Uyghur_Linux> how to learn research linux kernel
[13:11] <k1l> Uyghur_Linux: research? you might want to ask ##linux channel about that
[13:11] <joelio> http://www.kernelnewbies.org/ is good too
[13:11] <ambar> @k1l:  help me out this mess please
[13:11] <ducasse> ash_workz: ...and provides.
[13:12] <joelio> ducasse: requires, depends, pre-depends?
[13:12] <k1l> ambar: what is the issue now?
[13:12] <ambar> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23150075/
[13:12] <ash_workz> well, what I meant was, so far, anytime I use rdepends, it shows "Reverse Depends" ... I thought that was pretty specific not to warrant other categories
[13:12] <Uyghur_Linux> yeah
[13:13] <arexss> Hello all :)
[13:13] <arexss> an anyone help me with a problem? I have installed Ubuntu right now and followed a guide to how dualboot with Windows 10 but seems that something went wrong. When I start the computer in the list there is not Windows in the list but just ubuntu
[13:13] <arexss> I didn't delete any partition of windows I have all here, just can't figure out how to let it start
[13:13] <ducasse> ash_workz: it will indicate whether another package recommends or suggests it, too.
[13:14] <k1l> ambar: do you use diesk encryption? or lvm?
[13:14] <transhuman_> hi! having a problem...every time I log in it goes back to lightdm using nvidia-364 and now am using bumblebee cant figure it out these are my logs paste.ubunut.com/23150015
[13:14] <ambar> i dont understand these terms ; please help
[13:15] <ducasse> joelio: requires and pre-depends are probably the ones i couldn't remember, but i mentioned depends :)
[13:16] <k1l> ambar: please show the output of "sudo blkid"
[13:18] <ambar> @k1l: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23150125/
[13:19] <k1l> ambar: seems like you dont use lvm. so that is not an error
[13:20] <ambar> ok now how do i update my system , i did this : sudo apt-get update, and i got the following
[13:21] <ambar> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23150138/
[13:23] <k1l> please pastebin the result of "grep ^ /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*"
 actually i was trying to solve some other problem... and this mess happened  # what other problem?
[13:25] <ambar> @ k1l:  i might get disconnected in between as  i am traveling, how can i conatct u again if it happens
[13:25] <OerHeks> and is your filesystem read only?
[13:25] <ambar> @k1l: me output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23150148/
[13:26] <k1l> ambar: ask in here, someone will help
[13:27] <k1l> ambar: sudo ppa-purge ppa:asukhovatkin/unity-launcher-folders
[13:28] <ambar> @k1l: it was really very helpful of you to do this; i am obliged
[13:28] <ambar> @k1l: my output link : http://paste.ubuntu.com/23150148/
[13:28] <k1l> that doesnt have any packages for 16.04. so remove that
[13:29] <ambar> it says ppa-purge: command not found
[13:29] <k1l> then first "sudo apt install ppa-purge"
[13:30] <k1l> for the other error do "sudo apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com 6A9653F936FD5529"
[13:30] <ash_workz> rdepends lists packages that depends ON the listed package, right?
[13:30] <ash_workz> this is confusing because `apt-cache rdepends gimp` lists imagemagick
[13:30] <ambar>  a minute
[13:31] <ash_workz> imagemagick requires gimp?
[13:31] <k1l> ash_workz: no
[13:31] <k1l> ash_workz: if you get confused look at packages.ubuntu.com
[13:31] <ash_workz> where is that?
[13:32] <ash_workz> apt packages.ub... ?
[13:32] <k1l> http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/imagemagick-6.q16
[13:32] <k1l> its a website.
[13:32] <ash_workz> oh... omg... my brain
[13:32] <ash_workz> wtf...
[13:32] <ash_workz> how did I misunderstand that
[13:33] <ducasse> ash_workz: imagemagick-6.q16 suggests gimp
[13:33] <ash_workz> ...
[13:33] <ash_workz> I am confused
[13:34] <AEL-H> Hi guys, I am trying to mount a usb using "sudo mount /dev/sdc /media"
[13:34] <AEL-H> This is the dmesg given : http://paste.ubuntu.com/23150180/
[13:34] <AEL-H> What's going on?
[13:34] <ambar> @k1l: my error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23150184/
[13:35] <ash_workz> ducasse: what does this mean? https://gist.github.com/anonymous/f47c85ee2f8a9043d7ee16fe0a806ccd
[13:35] <k1l> ambar: for the other error do "sudo apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com 6A9653F936FD5529"
[13:36] <ash_workz> I really don't get it
[13:36] <ash_workz> why is imagemagick listed twice?
[13:36] <ambar> @k1l: output for second: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23150191/
[13:37] <k1l> ambar: that is not an error. now run "sudo apt update"
[13:37] <ambar> @k1l: what ot do abiut first
[13:37] <joelio> AEL-H: you're not showing the error - is it on sdc1 (a parition, rather than full disk)
[13:37] <ambar> a  minute
[13:37] <AEL-H> joelio: It's a full disk
[13:37] <ash_workz> it's under ` |gimp-dbg` ... maybe pipes indicate "sub-packages" or something?
[13:38] <ducasse> ash_workz: don't know, but it is listed because it suggests gimp.
[13:38] <ash_workz> but that's not the point of rdepends... I thought
[13:38] <AEL-H> joelio: Here is the error : http://paste.ubuntu.com/23150200/
[13:38] <joelio> AEL-H: sudo blkid - and check the fs type, really though, pastebin the error you're getting on mount
[13:38] <joelio> k
[13:39] <ambar> @k1l: my output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23150201/
[13:39] <joelio> AEL-H: sudo blkid - plus check what the fs type is
[13:40] <k1l> ambar: sudo rm -rf /etc/apt/sources.list.d/asukhovatkin-ubuntu-unity-launcher-folders-xenial.list*
[13:40] <ambar> @k1l: please guide me further
[13:40] <ash_workz> I just understood the pipe
[13:40] <ash_workz> means "previous pkg or this"
[13:41] <AEL-H> joelio: fdisk reports the device does not contain a recognised partition table, /dev/sdc doesn't come up on blkid
[13:41] <joelio> I think there's your answer then
[13:41] <ash_workz> so A\n |B means "rdepends A... can be B, but preferably A"
[13:42] <AEL-H> joelio: But I have created this usb on ubuntu ext4 fs I think, so how could I possibly repair it?
[13:43] <joelio> AEL-H: you could try and fsck the device fwiw, sounds broken though
[13:43] <joelio> sure its the rigtht disk etc?
[13:43] <anonymous> hi
[13:44] <ash_workz> theres no way to filter out the recommends from rdepends?
[13:44] <Guest64917> ok
[13:47] <ducasse> ash_workz: it does not indicate preference, any of the packages will satisfy the dependency.
[13:48] <ambar> @k1l: thakyou soo much  for you help. things seems to start working finally; can i always find u as k1l here?
[13:58] <Arexss> hello all
[14:00] <Xat`> hi guys
[14:00] <Jakey3> is there a gui for lxc?
[14:00] <Xat`> I need PHP 5.6 on Ubuntu 14.04, is there a trusted repo for that ?
[14:02] <ssc_> Xat`: ondrej/php5-5.6 ?
[14:03] <Xat`> ssc_: is this repo trusted ?
[14:03] <ssc_> For me it is :D
[14:04] <Xat`> I saw it but I'm not sure if it is a good idea
[14:04] <neildugan> I am having a problem ... I have a RaspberryPi zero, using the g_ether device for ethernet over a USB cable ... but every time I plug it into the laptop I am getting a different ethernet device (e.g. enxea25855f347f) ... is there any way to get this to be always the same (e.g. usb0) ?
[14:05] <tdannecy> neildugan: How are you finding that ethernet name? lsusb?
[14:05] <neildugan> tdannecy, ifconfig
[14:06] <neildugan> tdannecy, it always seems to start with enx, the the MAC address
[14:08] <joelio> neildugan: yea, you can lok in udev
[14:09] <anonymous_> hi
[14:09] <anonymous_> hier ist anonymous
[14:09] <ducasse> Jakey3: not that i know of, no. most admins prefer cli tools. there might be something developed for lxd eventually, but probably not lxc any longer.
[14:10] <joelio> there's an lxc web ui, but it's not had much move
[14:10] <joelio> *love
[14:10] <anonymous_> hi here is anonymous
[14:10] <Jakey3> ducasse, is lxd the next gen to lxc?
[14:10] <neildugan> joelio, ok ... I suppose the rule would need to use the usb device number etc.
[14:11] <Jakey3> ducasse, i found a couple on google
[14:11] <joelio> neildugan: there may already be a rule created for it in /etc/udev/rules.d/ - just update the name there
[14:11] <Jakey3> https://www.flockport.com/
[14:12] <Jakey3> https://lxc-webpanel.github.io/
[14:12] <joelio> Jakey3: you're locking into using flockport then (although they're neat)
[14:12] <joelio> Jakey3: yea, that's what I was talking about - not sure it's had much love recently though
[14:12] <joelio> proxmox too fwiw
[14:13] <joelio> Jakey3: used it before for kvm, works quire well when you don't need openstack scale https://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/Linux_Container
[14:13] <Jakey3> thanks
[14:14] <neildugan> joelio, there doesn't seem to be one, the only rule there references a vendor of 19d2 and lsusb has the number as "Bus 001 Device 021: ID 0525:a4a2 Netchip Technology, Inc. Linux-USB Ethernet/RNDIS Gadget"
[14:14] <joelio> is that not the device then?
[14:16] <ducasse> neildugan: you could probably write a udev rule
[14:16] <ducasse> neildugan: sorry, did not see other replies
[14:17] <neildugan> ducasse, I am looking at it now, I would like to see if I can use a serial or something to influence the name
[14:20] <DrunkenDwarf> Hi all. live booting Ubuntu from a USB drive, is that fast enough to realistically use it as a working system?
[14:21] <jphreak> Prob not
[14:21] <DrunkenDwarf> would it be faster or slower than a VirtualBox? (pref with image on USB)
[14:22] <ducasse> neildugan: there are some sample udev rules on the arch wiki, might be helpful
[14:22] <jphreak> Prob slower
[14:22] <transhuman_> hi! managed to get desktop working with nvidia 610M video card problem is now it only has one monitor showing anyone know a fix
[14:22] <neildugan> ducasse, ok, do you know the url
[14:23] <transhuman_> the panel controls dont fix it
[14:23] <ducasse> neildugan: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Udev
[14:24] <neildugan> ducasse, thanks
[14:24] <Jakey3> my ssh session continually breaks
[14:24] <Jakey3> with a broken pipe
[14:24] <Jakey3> is there a way to fix this
[14:24] <ash_workz> "depends" on http://packages.ubuntu.com means packages that require the described package, right?
[14:25] <ash_workz> or does it mean packages that are required BY the described package?
[14:25]  * ash_workz so confused
[14:25] <FinalX> the package depends on the package(s) mentioned there.
[14:25] <joelio> neildugan: if you don't liek that naming, could always revert back to ethN by setting net.ifnames=0 biosdevname=0 in /etc/default/grub && update-groub too fwiw. Or just write a udev rule :)
[14:26] <ash_workz> okay
[14:26] <FinalX> ash_workz: for example, http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/nginx depends on nginx-core _or_ nginx-full _or_ nginx-light _or_ nginx-extras getting/being installed
[14:27] <ash_workz> hmmmm
[14:28] <FinalX> ash_workz: you can also do the reverse on a system if you have a package installed, for instance: "aptitude why $package" or "apt-cache rdepends --installed $package"
[14:28] <FinalX> it'll then show you what package that you installed depends on that one
[14:28] <ash_workz> FinalX: yeah, but that comes with caveats which make it confusing
[14:29] <FinalX> or just do like i do sometimes, apt-get remove $package, and then don't go through with it =P
[14:29] <ash_workz> but I think --no-recommends --no-suggests --no-conflicts --no-breaks --no-replaces --no-enhances --no-depends --installed will not show anything EXCEPT packages that depend on the described package, no?
[14:29] <FinalX> it's dirty, but it works :p
[14:30] <ash_workz> interesting
[14:32] <FinalX> you can add -s to do a simulation
[14:32] <neildugan> ducasse, looks like the best I can do is to use the path of the usb device to control the device name.
[14:35] <gde33> after upgrading to 16.04 and rebooting my alt tab entries are missing
[14:36] <gde33> it initially worked just fine (after the upgrade)
[14:36] <gde33> the toolbar does show an icon but it wont show/hide the application(s)
[14:37] <ducasse> neildugan: i would think you could use the vendor and product id?
[14:37] <gde33> when I try launching it again it does bring it to the forground
[14:38] <nzxtm> hey, what are some steps you would recommend to take after installing ubuntu
[14:39] <DJones> nzxtm: just use it, get used tto what you need, whats avilable in the official repo's
[14:40] <Guest37292> configure your web browser
[14:40] <gde33> ah I cna use windos+w
[14:41] <neildugan> ducasse, But there is a chance of have more that one device, each with the same vendor/product number, I was hoping for a serial number but there isn't one.
[14:41] <DannyGhoul> hello
[14:42] <DannyGhoul> can i get some help? i'm connected to my wifi but i can't acces internet
[14:42] <DannyGhoul> when i try to ^ping 8.8.8.8 i get "destination host unreachable"
[14:43] <Arexss> hello
[14:43] <tdannecy> DannyGhoul: Can you do a traceroute?
[14:43] <ducasse> neildugan: if you think you will have two identical devices, then you need another approach. you could still use it until that problem appears?
[14:44] <cn28h> DannyGhoul: can you ping default gw?
[14:44] <Kamiccolo> egh. Any ideas what to do with "nvidia-cuda-toolkit"->"nvidia-opencl-dev" package which does have hard dependency on specific NVidia driver version which is old and does not support my specific video card?
[14:44] <cn28h> (though traceroute will answer that)
[14:45] <neildugan> ducasse, yes I could..  it appears that setting the using ... NAME=="something" .. is what is need to control the name of the interface.
[14:46] <DannyGhoul> tdannecy : don't have the command and i can't install it
[14:47] <DannyGhoul> cn28h : i can ping localhost if that is the question
[14:48] <ducasse> neildugan: NAME="something" iirc
[14:48] <neildugan> ducasse, yes
[14:48] <ducasse> neildugan: '==' is a comparison afaicr
[14:49] <neildugan> ducasse, I figured that out just after I typed that message
[14:52] <guideX> it sucks ubuntu doesn't support the pi zero :(
[14:52] <neildugan> ducasse, what do you think of this ... SUBSYSTEM=="usb", ATTR{idVendor}=="19d2", ATTR{idProduct}=="a4a2", NAME="rpi0"
[14:55] <cn28h> DannyGhoul: not localhost, your gateway -- if you run "route -n" it would be the address listed as "Gateway" for Destination 0.0.0.0
[14:55] <inquistor> good morning all
[14:55] <ducasse> neildugan: off the top of my head that looks good. remember to reload the udev rules before replugging the device.
[14:56] <joelio> ubuntu does support Pi Zero (as it's same hw as Pi Original) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/RaspberryPi
[14:57] <joelio> oh, they went.
[14:57] <neildugan> ducasse, I did forget done it now.  I did a "systemctl restart systemd-udevd" but the rule didn't appear to work
[14:58] <ducasse> neildugan: 'sudo udevadm control --reload' i think
[14:58] <neildugan> joelio, I am using the g_ether device with a Rpi Zero .... the g_ether causing the ethernet interface to have strange names.
[14:59] <screcorder> Hi, I want to capture my screen in windows but I can't use video_size, can anyone help me ? it always capture fullscreen desktop ! http://pastebin.com/KR1Ajy6E
[15:00] <neildugan> ducasse, still didn't work.  :-(
[15:00] <auronandace> screcorder: the guys in ##windows should be able to help
[15:00] <ducasse> neildugan: i think you need an ACTION=="add" in there
[15:03] <kilos102> how to do percentage ussage on status bar? i was do solution from internet and that doesnt work :/ (i have raspberry pi3)
[15:03] <kilos102> (i mean CPU)*
[15:04] <screcorder> thanks auronandace
[15:04] <neildugan> ducasse, that didn't change anything still get the strange name
[15:05] <ducasse> neildugan: you can use udevadm to monitor the events, maybe you can figure out why the rule doesn't trigger. i've not messed much with udev myself.
[15:09] <joelio> neildugan: do you want consistent device naming or are you happy with ethN?
[15:09] <inquistor> I have a quick question this morning regarding Gnome Calendar on Ubuntu 16.04
[15:10] <inquistor> does anyone know why I wouldn't be able to schedule an afternoon meeting? I can hit the first 12 hours of the day then it starts over again never allowing a "pm" selection
[15:10] <neildugan> joelio, I am hopping to not affect the names of any of the other interfaces.
[15:10] <DannyGhoul> cn28h : i get no response from my gateway
[15:10] <joelio> neildugan: right, ok.. disabling CDN would set the others back to ethN too, so udev is the only way afaik
[15:10] <DannyGhoul> cn28h : also i somehow got 14 paquet from the 724 i send to google
[15:10] <timelon111> hi
[15:10] <joelio> kilos102: maybe something like powerline in your shell prompt? Not sure what you're trying to achieve exactly though
[15:11] <DannyGhoul> cn28h : and i just got two from 2 from to 90 i send to the gameway
[15:11] <joelio> kilos102: or just an PROMOPT with some load status?
[15:11] <timelon111> i have a question
[15:12] <timelon111> n
[15:13] <joelio> Twist3d: just ask, don't ask to ask :)
[15:14] <joelio> bah, went again
[15:14] <Twist3d> joelio: ho do you know :s
[15:14] <joelio> sorry Twist3d autocomplete for a user that exited as you joined
[15:14] <joelio> please ignore :)
[15:15] <Twist3d> ok, my question: Guys.. is it OK to remove a ppas and leave a program installed from that ppa? i think so.
[15:17] <joelio> Twist3d: yea, if you don't want updates
[15:18] <joelio> Twist3d: may bring some libraries that may conflict at some point, but "it depends"
[15:19] <Twist3d> joelio: thanks.
[15:19] <neildugan> ducasse, this is the result of the monitor ... http://pastebin.com/5Fhd10Ub
[15:22] <transhuman_> ok so I finally got the drivers working for nvidia 610 M for Ubuntu 16.04 had to use the nvidia propriatary driver on Nvidia site...the .run file boot from terminal in recovery enable networking and install the driver It REALLY shouldnt be this hard to get a freakin video card working!
[15:23] <ducasse> neildugan: maybe you need KERNEL=="eth*", i'm not really sure
[15:23] <transhuman_> no other drivers would work...symptom no dual desktop no login to desktop
[15:23] <neildugan> ducasse, I will try it.
[15:24] <transhuman_> this is the third video card that was a mess to install ...perhaps I should get a job on UpWork for fixing video card problems...becoming an expert for sure
[15:24] <neildugan> ducasse, still not working
[15:25] <joelio> ducasse: god that'd be awful.. althogh if you check dmesg, the do get renamed from ethN to whatever CDN thinks
[15:25]  * joelio still waiting for a time when CDN was useful to a project :)
[15:26] <ducasse> neildugan: try SUBSYSTEM=="net", that's the last suggestion i have. as i said, i'm not very familiar with udev.
[15:27] <acoret> screcorder: alt+printscreen?
[15:27] <ducasse> joelio: udev _is_ kind of awful ;)
[15:27] <Phryq> so I want to install a program like Rufus, is the best way to do it ap-get in the command? Or download it in firefox?
[15:28] <joelio> Phryq: whereever possible use apt - you get security updates
[15:28] <acoret> Phryq: i prefer install in apt,but if u want same excting thing,try to make it
[15:28] <Phryq> ok, and aptitude install is even better, right?
[15:28] <EriC^^> Phryq: there's unetbootin
[15:28] <EriC^^> sudo apt install unetbootin
[15:29] <neildugan> ducasse, I agree, it is complicated, and still not doing what i want.
[15:29] <Phryq> I have unetbootin, but I need something that will let it boot on a mac
[15:29] <ikonia> udev is a light year ahead of the old static node devices
[15:29] <joelio> ducasse: yuuup
[15:29] <Phryq> so I think I need UEFI
[15:29] <Phryq> and I think Rufus does UEFI
[15:29] <ducasse> neildugan: i can't help you, i'm sorry. this is not my forte, you could ask in ##linux
[15:29] <joelio> yea, think so
[15:30] <neildugan> ducasse, ok I will try there.
[15:31] <joelio> neildugan: I've got a usb adapter on my vpn box that does the same, if I get time tonight I'll look at it, see if can hit udev.. but try other chans by all means and let us know here if so :)
[15:31] <Phryq> so maybe I asked the wrong question actually; how can I make a USB drive bootable on a Mac (or UEFI bootable, assuming that's what's needed for a MAC boot)
[15:32] <joelio> Phryq: you can hold down C and it should boot from removable media
[15:32] <neildugan> ducasse, joelio, I will let you know if I succeed. thanks for the help
[15:32] <apb1963_> OK, i have installed 16.04 on /dev/sdb1 ... I used fdisk to change the boot flag from /dev/sda2 to sdb1, as sda2 contains 14.04.  It not only doesn't boot, but it doesn't show in the boot menu.  I tried to follow this link without much luck, my files don't match what's described here: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/installation-guide/i386/ch05s01.html#boot-initrd
[15:33] <ducasse> neildugan: one thing: change subsystem to usb
[15:33] <forgr> hello
[15:33] <apb1963_> It boots 14.04 instead.
[15:34] <neildugan> ducasse, yes I will
[15:34] <joelio> yea, the pi3 is usb phy don't forget :)
[15:34] <ducasse> neildugan: i've got rules i've made with just subsystem, idvendor, idproduct that work fine...
[15:34] <ahmed_> hi
[15:35] <Phryq> joelio, right, but when I do that, no other media comes up. I mean, it was coming up earlier, when I had Fedora on that USB, as a UEFI drive, but Fedora wouldn't boot for some reason; gave errors. Then I tried formatting and installing again. I've tried it with a bunch of different distros, Unetbootin, "Startup disk creator" and "Live USB Install". None of them are showing up now.
[15:35] <Phryq> I'm not sure how I got Fedora to show up the first time
[15:35] <joelio> Phryq: if you're using rufus it should handle the boot setting for the usb device
[15:36] <Phryq> but how do I get Rufus on Ubuntu?
[15:36] <Phryq> Rufus isn't the same as Unetbootin, is it?>
[15:36] <joelio> yea, pretty much
[15:36] <forgr> i bought a dedicated server and i was able to partition and setup raid using the providers web interface (real simple), however, they did not have the ubuntu 15.04 which i have to manually install. i am trying to manually install it, however, i have no idea what to do in this menu http://i.imgur.com/Eff0B0Y.jpg - can someone help me please? I just want to use the same as before but i have no idea what im doing
[15:36] <Phryq> because Unetbootin isn't working
[15:36] <Guest94522> i have 2 hdmi audio devices and usb headphones, most of the time when i reboot, the audio output changes to the hdmi device, i want it to stay on headphones i selected.
[15:36] <compdoc> Unetbootin is horrible
[15:37] <Keshitai> Hey, so
[15:37] <Keshitai> Im using kubuntu, and it cant seem to connect to my colleges wifi
[15:37] <yuza> halooo
[15:37] <joelio> Phryq: have you tried dd'ng the iso to the stick - that's what I do normally
[15:37] <codekK> Hi, the AMD Radeon HD 7790 its supported with the new AMDGPU Linux drivers??
[15:38] <orogor> Keshitai, can you see the wifi ?
[15:38] <Keshitai> I can see it, yeah
[15:38] <Phryq> compdoc, what can I use instead of unetbootin?
[15:38] <joelio> Keshitai: could be number of things, maybe it's the type of encryption used on the AP
[15:38] <joelio> or some EAP thing not supported?
[15:39] <Keshitai> The security is WPA2-EAP
[15:39] <Keshitai> Airodump tells me the authentication type is 'mgt'
[15:39] <joelio> right, so there may be some EAP stuff that's not supported - or could be with work
[15:39] <Keshitai> hrmnnn
[15:39] <Keshitai> so, the 'EAP' thing is probably the problem?
[15:40] <joelio> yea, usually it backs onto something proprietry or Cisco shaped...
[15:40] <joelio> but dunno, maybe talk to your college admins
[15:40] <joelio> Keshitai: https://askubuntu.com/questions/279762/cant-connect-to-wpa2-enterprise-peap maybe?
[15:41] <tdannecy> Keshitai: By chance, is that wifi network "Eduroam"?
[15:41] <Keshitai> uh, no, its not called that
[15:41] <orogor> Keshitai, and what s your wifi card?
[15:41] <Keshitai> Nor does it say its any kind of 'PEAP'
[15:41] <Keshitai> oh, yeah, my wifi card-
[15:41] <Keshitai> centrino advanced 6205
[15:41] <joelio> PEAP is just a type of EAP
[15:41] <joelio> Authentication : Protected EAP (PEAP)
[15:42] <Keshitai> It doesnt say the word protected nor have a P anywhere I see though
[15:42] <joelio> best speaking to your admins though, maybe some common solutuion - and when using EAP it becomes more intersting
[15:42] <Keshitai> not in the normal wifi menue nor in airodump
[15:42] <Rave1> Phryq: https://www.etcher.io/
[15:42] <joelio> do you use CA's are you using RADIUS etc etc
[15:43] <Keshitai> CA's, RADIUS?
[15:43] <joelio> you may be missing the CA cert and other stuff
[15:43] <joelio> yea, speak to your admins :)
[15:43] <Keshitai> Right, I'll try to.
[15:43] <joelio> or check the support pages on intranet etc
[15:43] <joelio> if you can access them :D
[15:43] <codekK> Hi, the AMD Radeon HD 7790 its supported with the new AMDGPU Linux drivers??
[15:44] <Phryq> Rave1, is there a way to apt-get it?
[15:44] <DannyGhoul> can i get some help? i get "destination host unreachable" on my gateway
[15:45] <Rave1> Phryq:  no
[15:45] <joelio> pv and dd, all you need for images
[15:45] <joelio> in fact dd later versions have progress bar now too fwiw
[15:45] <obelix__> hi all
[15:47] <obelix__> some one is trying virt-manager un server 16???
[15:48] <ducasse> obelix__: just ask your question.
[15:49] <obelix__> i take sverals snapshot but i don't know where are the snapshot file located i just find an xml file
[15:50] <Phryq> so what can I do with the app image? how to install it?
[15:52] <Rave1> Phryq:  read the info on the site.. or in most file managers right click/properties/ check box for allow executables to run as a program
[15:53] <apb1963_> OK, i have installed 16.04 on /dev/sdb1 ... I used fdisk to change the boot flag from /dev/sda2 to sdb1, as sda2 contains 14.04.  It not only doesn't boot, but it doesn't show in the boot menu.  I tried to follow this link without much luck, my files don't match what's described here: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/installation-guide/i386/ch05s01.html#boot-initrd
[15:53] <apb1963_> It boots 14.04 instead.
[15:53] <Rave1> Phryq:  sorry that should have been permissions
[15:53] <ZoF> Anyone know if there's a way to have screen let me scroll up?
[15:54] <ursu_> hi
[15:55] <Jordan_U> apb1963_: Grub doesn't care about boot flags (and neither does the BIOS interface standard).
[15:55] <Jordan_U> !bootinfo | apb1963_
[16:00] <yuza> haloo
[16:01] <yuza> pls tell me, how to hack nasa.gov :3
[16:02] <OerHeks> nasa is a canonical partner...?
[16:03] <OerHeks> so what do you think you are doing, silly yuza?
[16:03] <compdoc> he wants to destroy our space program
[16:05] <ducasse> obelix__: iirc the snapshots are in the same directory as the original image
[16:05] <squig> so just checking, there really isnt any wonderful web 2.0 thingy for managing dns/dhcp is there?
[16:06] <squig> one dreams
[16:07] <nacc> squig: that sounds like an awful idea :)
[16:07] <squig> why?
[16:07] <squig> webmins been around for Years and years
[16:08] <squig> older than ubuntu
[16:08] <apb1963_> Jordan_U: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23150734/
[16:09] <nacc> squig: ot for here, but the number of vulnerabilities for web-ified things would make me leary of allowing anything like that access to systems booting in my network, or the network definition itself
[16:10] <squig> nacc, how would it be offtopic if it was part of ubuntu
[16:10] <nacc> squig: my reasoning is ot, this is the support channel, not a genearl discussion channel
[16:11] <TheNH813> The WiFi suddenly  turned off on a laptop and it won't turn back on. Even after several complete poweroffs and reboots.
[16:12] <redbeardt> TheNH813 does rfkill list look ok?
[16:12] <TheNH813> Huh, it says hard blocked.
[16:12] <squig> nacc: lol, every one of my computers is accessable via httpp
[16:12] <squig> 30 virtual computers
[16:12] <redbeardt> ooer
[16:12] <TheNH813> But I checked in BIOS and it;s enabled
[16:12] <TheNH813> Guess I'l poke the wireless switch
[16:13] <redbeardt> Man this GPU passthrough shit is difficult
[16:13] <TheNH813> Woops. That was a dumb mistake. Forgot to check that. XDDD
[16:13] <DrunkinM2staRay> You mean like Big IP GTM or
[16:13] <DannyGhoul> can i get some help? i get "destination host unreachable" on my gateway
[16:13] <DrunkinM2staRay> HAProxy
[16:13] <redbeardt> Oh, all good now? Haha awesome
[16:13] <TheNH813> GPU passthrough? In VMware, plain KVM, or what?
[16:14] <compdoc> redbeardt, yeah, I never found a use for passthrough. too complicated
[16:14] <Jordan_U> apb1963_: It looks like it's listed, but not labeled very clearly. If you scroll down in the grub menu do you see an entry for "Ubuntu, with Linux 3.2.0-67-generic-pae (on /dev/sdb1)"?
[16:15] <redbeardt> copmdoc: in my case ubuntu decided that my discrete GPU would stop working about 2 weeks ago when they put out some regular ol' updates, so I've been trying to set up passthrough to a vm as a workaround
[16:15] <redbeardt> compdoc* oops
[16:15] <TheNH813> Guess I can unplug the Ethernet to WiFi adaptor now. Seems to be working. :D
[16:15] <apb1963_> Jordan_U: other than rebooting... is there a way to check?
[16:15] <TheNH813> Having n old router flashed to DD-Wrt and set to act as an access bridge is great. XD
[16:16] <PrinceCharming> anyone know how I get around 'ping: icmp open socket: Permission denied' in bash on windows?
[16:16] <PrinceCharming> don't really want to have to elevate my powershell session on the off chance I might want to use something basic like ping
[16:16] <nacc> !ubuwin | PrinceCharming
[16:17] <PrinceCharming> aight
[16:18] <apb1963_> Jordan_U: Line 415, 427 and more.  Here's the first one, please search for sdb1 in that paste.  menuentry 'Ubuntu 12.04.5 LTS (12.04) (on /dev/sdb1)' --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os $menuentry_id_option 'osprober-gnulinux-simple-8dbfcc40-072f-41a2-bcc1-7ee82509a109' {
[16:18] <A_F_K> (clueless)running apt-get upgrade and i'm getting asked about the email service; i don't use it and don't intend to and can't figure out how to x out of it(lol) what do i do
[16:20] <redbeardt> .. Anyone know what qemu means when a device driver spits out "Invalid ROM contents", say, for your GPU, into dmesg?
[16:20] <redbeardt> er shit, nevermind the bit about qemu. I'm trying to ask a general question to get some direction
[16:20] <ikonia> redbeardt: try to control the langauge please
[16:20] <redbeardt> ikonia: sorry
[16:21] <ikonia> redbeardt: not a problem
[16:22] <nacc> redbeardt: do you need to pass a romfile for that device?
[16:22] <nacc> redbeardt: err, ROM image as file
[16:23] <DannyGhoul> can i get some help? i get "destination host unreachable" when i try to ping my gateway on my wifi
[16:23] <redbeardt> nacc: Some people have done that to get around my issue. I don't know where to get such a file though.
[16:24] <redbeardt> nacc: .. or even what such a file does
[16:24] <ikonia> redbeardt: why dont you give us the exact real problem
[16:24] <ikonia> rather than "say for your graphics card" give us the exact real details
[16:24] <apb1963_> DannyGhoul: Is your gateway a local address or a WAN address?
[16:25] <nacc> redbeardt: i think most people get them from https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/
[16:26] <DannyGhoul> apb1963_ how do i know that?
[16:26] <Bohemus> Any way to install ubuntu without a bootloader and just use EFISTUB to boot on an EFI system?
[16:26] <apb1963_> DannyGhoul: by the IP address... what is it?
[16:27] <redbeardt> ikonia, nacc: alright well my GPU is an Nvidia 940m and I want to pass it through to a qemu vm. As far as I can tell the iommu grouping is all good now since qemu no longer complains of it, but qemu complains that it cannot read the device which is my GPU and to check dmesg, wherein vfio-pci states "Invalid ROM contents" for that device
[16:27] <redbeardt> nacc: thanks ill take a look
[16:27] <ikonia> redbeardt: ok - so the key thing here is it is a virtual passthrough
[16:27] <DannyGhoul>  apb1963- : 192.1xx.x.x
[16:28] <Jordan_U> Bohemus: The easiest way to accomplish that would just be to allow the installer to install grub, then remove grub-efi-amd64 after installation, and remove the entry created for grub using efibootmgr. You'll need to learn efibootmgr to create entries for your kernel stubs anyway (and you will have to manually created new entries as you get new kernels).
[16:28] <jhutchins_wk> redbeardt: I believe that what you actually have is a virtualized GPU provided by XEN.
[16:29] <ikonia> why would it be provided by xen when he's using kvm ?
[16:29] <ikonia> or qemu even
[16:29] <Bohemus> Jordan_U: That makes sense, good idea. Thanks.
[16:29] <Jordan_U> Bohemus: You're welcome.
[16:29] <jhutchins_wk> ikonia: I'm not sure why I assumed xen, but whatever hypervisor he's using.
[16:29] <ikonia> jhutchins_wk: so he's just told us that he's using a physical card with a device pass through using qemu
[16:30] <jhutchins_wk> ikonia: Ok, nevermind, you help him.
[16:30] <ikonia> jhutchins_wk: I'm just wondering what you're saying
[16:30] <apb1963_> Jordan_U: Not sure if you saw my last message above?
[16:31] <apb1963_> DannyGhoul: That's a local address.  So... it should just work.  What is your machine's IP?  Also local?
[16:32] <faekjarz> Hi! I'm either too stupid or too stubborn to memorize how to use useradd to add a user to secondary groups. I mean it's all about listing the user behind the group in /etc/group, right? Or does useradd _anything_ else?
[16:32] <DannyGhoul>  apb1963- : yeah also local
[16:32] <ikonia> faekjarz: usermod
[16:33] <ikonia> faekjarz: if you're creating a user, useradd -g and -G
[16:33] <ikonia> faekjarz: man useradd / man usermod
[16:33] <brunch875> I'm interested in this question too, since pinging the default gateway gets me no response even though I'm connected to the internet ☺
[16:33] <redbeardt> ikonia: if you don't mind me asking, what's the alternative to a virtual passthrough, and what makes this virtual?
[16:33] <apb1963_> DannyGhoul: you need to verify they're on the same subnet.... the easiest way to do that is to not be paranoid about it and show the addresses. :)
[16:33] <ikonia> redbeardt: so you're giving your machine direct hardware access,
[16:33] <ikonia> redbeardt: however your guest OS must be aware/configured to use this hardware too
[16:34] <ikonia> brunch875: ping is not a valid test
[16:34] <faekjarz> ikonia: oh, now it's usermod, haha, a'ight :D
[16:34] <ikonia> ping is just icmp echo response
[16:34] <ikonia> faekjarz: now ? it's always been useradd/usermod
[16:34] <brunch875> how else could you test this?
[16:34] <ikonia> useradd to create a new user, usermod to modify a user
[16:34] <ikonia> brunch875: what are you trying to test ?
[16:35] <Jordan_U> apb1963_: I did, but unforutnately I don't have enough time at the moment to take a close look at your boot info script output. Basically, what you want to check is that all three grub.cfg files listed in the output contain references to bb14697c-8b03-4633-aa43-1ba49abad874 , which is the UUID of your 16.04 partition. If that is the case, then you should be able to boot to 16.04 no matter what grub.cfg
[16:35] <brunch875> well... a response from the router really
[16:35] <Jordan_U> is being read at boot. Once booted into 16.04 I would recommend running "sudo dpkg-reconfigure --frontend=text grub-pc" and configure grub-pc to be installed to sda, sdb, and sdc (but *no* partitions like sda1) so that there is no question of what grub.cfg is in use (16.04's grub and grub.cfg will then be used no matter what drive your BIOS boots from).
[16:35] <DannyGhoul>  apb1963- : i got 192.168.0.x for both ip and gateway
[16:35] <ikonia> brunch875: for what function ?
[16:35] <ikonia> brunch875: why do you want/need a response from the router ?
[16:35] <brunch875> to check if it's actually connected to it
[16:35] <ikonia> brunch875: do you have a valid IP ?
[16:35] <brunch875> ifconfig states so
[16:35] <ikonia> brunch875: then you have made a dhcp request and the router has responded
[16:36] <apb1963_> Jordan_U: awesome!  Thank you!
[16:36] <brunch875> I guess it was a silly question :p
[16:36] <ikonia> brunch875: and you use the dns service
[16:36] <faekjarz> ikonia: well, maybe it's this distro hopping thing …there are also useradd and adduser (thanks for the tipp)
[16:36] <redbeardt> ikonia: ohhhh.. the fact is that i'm doing this to attempt to get around an issue wherein ubuntu stopped playing nice with my 940m about 2 weeks back after an update. Since the device is not working properly on the host, is that what prevents it from working properly on the guest?
[16:36] <ikonia> faekjarz: useradd / usermod are the same across every distro
[16:36] <ikonia> redbeardt: if the host can't use it - how do you expect the guest to use it ?
[16:37] <apb1963_> DannyGhoul: ok that's good then... so that's not the issue...  Not sure.. wifi is not my expertise.... you'll get better answers in #networking I suspect.
[16:37] <faekjarz> ikonia: ok, i learned something ;)
[16:37] <DannyGhoul>  apb1963- :ok i'll try thanx
[16:38] <redbeardt> ikonia: I hoped there was some sort of magic to this funky intel VT-d tech that would essentially give the vm 'direct access' to the GPU, allowing the vm to handle the device almost entirely.
[16:38] <ikonia> redbeardt: so that is sort of what's happening now
[16:39] <Aesir> names
[16:41] <redbeardt> ikonia: i'm afraid i don't understand your meaning
[16:41] <ikonia> redbeardt: so you are passing through the device directly to the guest
[16:41] <ikonia> redbeardt: the host is just controlling that access
[16:41] <zergov> Anybody have slow boot issue using ubuntu 16.04 Gnome ? Here is the log of dmesg (check > line 616 ) http://pastebin.com/aph51sNp
[16:42] <A_F_K> hi I was running apt-get upgrade on ubuntu 14.04
[16:42] <A_F_K> and i stopped the upgrade
[16:42] <A_F_K> now i'm getting this
[16:42] <A_F_K> root@server:~# sudo apt-get upgrade
[16:42] <A_F_K> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[16:42] <A_F_K> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[16:43] <OerHeks> !paste > A_F_K
[16:43] <ikonia> !aptlock | A_F_K
[16:43] <zergov> err 790 *
[16:43] <redbeardt> ikonia: I guess all I can glean from this is that said host-managed-access is not sufficiently removed from controlling the GPU that it can pass through it through and let the vm handle things like drivers
[16:44] <ikonia> redbeardt: what OS are you passing it through to
[16:44] <redbeardt> ikonia: none yet, i haven't gone ahead to install an OS in the vm yet because of this error
[16:44] <ikonia> redbeardt: where are you getting that error ?
[16:45] <redbeardt> ikonia: in the terminal from which i run qemu, immediately after qemu starts up
[16:45] <ikonia> redbeardt: is that a fatal error or a warning ?
[16:46] <redbeardt> ikonia: i suppose it's a warning, it even tells me how to skip the ROM probe with an argument i can pass to qemu
[16:46] <ikonia> ok....so you don't care then, what you do care is that the guest OS can use it
[16:47] <Jordan_U> apb1963_: You're welcome :)
[16:47] <zergov> Anybody have slow boot issue using ubuntu 16.04 Gnome ? Here is the log of dmesg (check > line 616 ) http://pastebin.com/aph51sNp
[16:47] <redbeardt> ikonia: hm ok, then i'll go ahead with an install and see how I go! thanks for your help :)
[16:47] <zergov> My boottime is > 30 secd
[16:47] <A_F_K> how do I choose no configuration on Postfix?
[16:48] <zergov> It looks like an issue with xhci_hcd
[16:48] <A_F_K> It's not letting me do anything
[16:48] <ducasse> zergov: can you pastebin output of 'systemd-analyze blame'?
[16:49] <zergov> alright inc
[16:49] <ducasse> A_F_K: i don't remember if 'none' is one of the options, but 'local only' is. try 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure postfix'
[16:50] <zergov> ducasse: http://pastebin.com/SRExyTvF there you go !
[16:51] <ducasse> !pm | A_F_K
[16:51] <A_F_K> how do I get past this lol: http://i.imgur.com/DjDfIM8.png
[16:51] <A_F_K> I want to select no configuration(if that's what you choose if you don't want the service)
[16:51] <ducasse> A_F_K: press 'space' or enter to select ok, then use tab on the next menu.
[16:52] <A_F_K> lmao thanks so much
[16:52] <A_F_K> would it be better to select Local only or No configuration if I don't want to use the service
[16:52] <ducasse> zergov: you are right, it seems like a problem with the usb kernel modules. i have no idea how to deal with that on a mac, though.
[16:53] <ducasse> A_F_K: if you're not going to use it, select no config. you can change it later if you want.
[16:53] <Exodious> is it possible to install nethunter on ubuntu?
[16:54] <zergov> Well, I guess I can deal with it for now, maybe it will get fixed in future release. I had default 16.04 and did not have any issue.
[16:54] <ducasse> zergov: what kind of mac is this, exactly?
[16:55] <Exodious> nobody knows?
[16:56] <rdn> hello boys
[16:56] <zergov> ducasse: MacBookPro12,1
[16:57] <ducasse> zergov: seems others also have this problem: http://askubuntu.com/questions/784937/slow-boot-after-update-xhci-hcd-problems
[16:57] <bakirelived> hey, is there anyone that uses cryptsetup here that can help me?
[16:57] <zergov> yup, I checked online but I did not found any way to fix the problem :/
[16:58] <ducasse> zergov: me neither. have you considered filing a bug? you could link to that page to show others are also affected.
[16:59] <faxn> So i have been using lsblk to get HDD info, however I noticed that after wiping a disk, it's still showing the old allocation data. Whats should I be doing to get current info from drive?
[16:59] <faxn> like partitions, gpt info, filesystem....
[17:01] <zergov> ducasse: I just found something, I am going to test it first. If it does not work, I will fill a bug.
[17:01] <zergov> brb
[17:04] <Jakey3> can someone explain what uids and gids are
[17:04] <apb1963_> Jordan_U: I checked the first grub.cfg ... and the uuid is not there.  I don't know what to do from here.
[17:04] <beastwick> hi, when doing an install from source with cmake, is it possible to be more specific with where LIB files should go? I can set the prefix to like /usr, but I need the lib files to go into /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu
[17:04] <ducasse> Jakey3: user id and group id
[17:05] <Jakey3> ducasse, thanks subuid ?
[17:05] <Jakey3> subuids
[17:05] <Jakey3> these are child processes ?
[17:06] <Jakey3> of the uids?
[17:06] <ducasse> Jakey3: http://man7.org/linux/man-pages//man5/subuid.5.html
[17:06] <Jakey3> np find the man page
[17:07] <Jakey3> sure
[17:07] <zergov> ducasse: no dice
[17:07] <ducasse> zergov: ok, then i would file a bug. sine it worked with earlier kernels it is clearly a regression.
[17:07] <ducasse> *since
[17:08] <zergov> ducasse: I never opened a bug before .. I just do this on the website ?
[17:08] <zergov> nvm
[17:08] <zergov> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs
[17:08] <zergov> Ill read this
[17:08] <ducasse> zergov: 'ubuntu-bug linux-image-generic'
[17:09] <OerHeks> register/login on launchpad :-)
[17:09] <ducasse> that, too :)
[17:17] <terrible> hello
[17:26] <arno_> vous utilisez quoi pour gerer les commentaires?
[17:26] <arno_> sorry, wrong channel
[17:31] <apb1963_> OK, i have installed 16.04 on /dev/sdb1 ... I used fdisk to change the boot flag from /dev/sda2 to sdb1, as sda2 contains 14.04.  It not only doesn't boot, but it doesn't show in the boot menu.  I tried to follow this link without much luck, my files don't match what's described here: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/installation-guide/i386/ch05s01.html#boot-initrd    Some bootscript info:http://paste.ubuntu.com/23150734/  Not sure where to go from
[17:31] <apb1963_> here.
[17:32] <Jakey3> i get the following error when i try and create an lxc unprivalleged container
[17:32] <Jakey3> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/23151057/
[17:32] <ducasse> apb1963_: linux doesn't care about the boot flag, so that does not matter
[17:32] <Jakey3> can someone shed some light on it
[17:32] <kraz0r_> hello
[17:33] <duckx0r> Can someone tell me if you get an SSL error with Chrome or Chrome-based browsers on Ubuntu when going to https://epcreservation.expediapartnercentral.com ? I get an error on Debian.
[17:33] <kraz0r_> i need help with a shell file.. i always get an error :( http://pastebin.com/HgEtD2cq    -------------- and this is my log: http://pastebin.com/TggjqkDq
[17:33] <ducasse> Jakey3: are you a member of lxc group?
[17:34] <Bashing-om> apb1963_: " Your search - http://paste.ubuntu.com/23150734 - did not match any documents.
[17:34] <Jakey3> let me check
[17:34] <Jakey3> duckx0r, on chromium i dont
[17:35] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: that's odd... it comes up for me.
[17:35] <duckx0r> Jakey3, Thanks.
[17:35] <ducasse> duckx0r: this is not #debian
[17:35] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: perhaps it's because you're searching for it instead of just opening it?
[17:35] <duckx0r> ducasse, Your point?
[17:35] <ducasse> duckx0r: should be obvious.
[17:35] <duckx0r> ducasse, Not really.
[17:35] <Bashing-om> apb1963_: Yeah got it ! /./reading .
[17:36] <duckx0r> ducasse, I'm wondering if the error occurs in Ubuntu too, or if it's something that occurs only on Debian. That's why I came here.
[17:40] <kraz0r_> could someone take a look on my not working shell file? log said syntaxerror row 17 but i dont find it: http://pastebin.com/HgEtD2cq
[17:40] <fomafdl> whats the difference between google-chrome and google-chrome-stable?
[17:41] <apb1963_> kraz0r_: I'm guessing this line is missing a closing quote: export qPathToStartScript="/home/steam/steamcmd/steamapps/common/qlds/run_serve$
[17:42] <apb1963_> and also a variable to go with the $
[17:42] <duckx0r> fomafdl, Stable has been tested more and should be more free of bugs
[17:42] <kraz0r_> ty i will take a look
[17:43] <fomafdl> most extensions will support stable?
[17:43] <ducasse> apb1963_: that line looks like it was cut off in a bad copy/paste on a too narrow terminal
[17:43] <apb1963_> kraz0r_: that's line 9 by the way.
[17:43] <apb1963_> ducasse: yes, exactly
[17:43] <fomafdl> because i'm not really using chrome
[17:43] <fomafdl> just downloaded it because some websites doesn't function well in ff :|
[17:43] <MelRay> Hey everyone is it possible doing a live usb  install to setup LVM to use 2 physical disks which are installed in my desktop?
[17:44] <MelRay> *desktop pc*
[17:44] <Jakey3> ducasse, they are not
[17:44] <apb1963_> kraz0r_: go back to the original you copied it from... take a look at what you deleted by accident... or didn't add properly when you copied & pasted.
[17:45] <Jakey3> but i dont see anywhere that they have to be in the ubuntu guide https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/lxc.html
[17:45] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: any revelations?
[17:46] <apb1963_> MelRay: I would expect so, but I've never used LVM.  But yeah... that's my understanding of what it's designed to do... among other things.
[17:46] <ducasse> Jakey3: it was just a guess, i may be thinking of lxd
[17:46] <apb1963_> MelRay: A live usb install isn't any different from any other kind of install when it comes to LVM I would expect.
[17:47] <Jakey3> ducasse, ok
[17:47] <apb1963_> MelRay: If this solution has helped you, please mark it as "Resolved".  :p
[17:47] <apb1963_> and vote for it too :)
[17:48] <kraz0r_> BIG THX apb1963_ youre the best
[17:48] <apb1963_> am I?  am I really?  That's mighty nice of you to say.
[17:48] <faxn> after using dd to wipe disk, how do you verify that the gpt has been removed? lsblk shows old data
[17:49] <MelRay> apb1963: Actually I know all of what you said however I'm looking for guidance on how to actually select both /dev/sda and /dev/sdb during the installation of ubuntu so when the ubuntu-vg group gets created it included both of those physical disks..yeah
[17:49] <kraz0r_> thank you for youre help, my linux skill arent mighty enough to find this stupid error myself :(
[17:50] <ducasse> MelRay: if you want to set up lvm over several disks you should probably install from the server image
[17:51] <MelRay> ducasse: ubuntu-server you are talking about? I see no options in the gui installer to select both..only one or the other..not sure the server version would be any different other than no gui installer?
[17:52] <ducasse> MelRay: trust me, it is quite different, with options to configure lvm and mdadm raid.
[17:52] <SmitH_> Hi guys
[17:52] <SmitH_> How do I install ubuntu on an USB SSD
[17:53] <SmitH_> ?search
[17:53] <Bashing-om> apb1963_: What are you able to boot presently ? Were me I would clean up all those old unused kernels, and change the device identifiers " /dev/sdc1 /mnt/d " to UUIDs . the device ID can change ,, the UUID will not change .
[17:54] <fomafdl> SmitH_: it's possible to boot from it?
[17:55] <fomafdl> if you can boot using it, I think it's the same as everything else
[17:55] <akik> SmitH_: you can boot ubuntu off an usb stick or an usb hd
[17:56] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: I believe I can boot them all, except for the 16.04
[17:56] <SmitH_> akik, shoould I use unetbootin?
[17:56] <akik> SmitH_: how ever you want to create the boot media
[17:57] <akik> SmitH_: on windows use rufus, on linux use dd
[17:58] <MelRay> ducasse: I said nothing about RAID only asking about LVM...and since there would only be two physical disks it would only be Raid 0 which ain't all that great...now if I had 4 physical disks and wanted Raid 10 then that would be different where I get parity/striping and more...
[17:58] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: I think the problem might simply be the label  for that menuentry is wrong.
[17:58] <ducasse> MelRay: i only mentioned mdadm raid to illustrate that the server installer can do things the desktop installer can't
[17:59] <apb1963_> I'm going to try booting that entry now (for 12) and see if 16 comes up.
[17:59] <MelRay> ducasse: Ahhh got ya..sorry now I see your point
[18:00] <ducasse> MelRay: it's a very different beast if you need special disk configuration for example, and lets you do manual package selection too.
[18:00] <akik> MelRay: there's the option to create a mirror in lvm
[18:01] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: Black screen :(
[18:01] <MelRay> ducasse and akik thank you I will move that direction then...thanks so much for your help!
[18:01] <Jakey3> ducasse, I found out the reason, for some reason using SU misplaces the UID of the original user. So if you ssh in directly as that user it works
[18:02] <Jakey3> https://www.stgraber.org/2014/01/17/lxc-1-0-unprivileged-containers/
[18:02] <Jakey3> in the comments
[18:03] <ducasse> Jakey3: aha, you didn't mention su was involved :)
[18:04] <Jakey3> :)
[18:04] <ducasse> Jakey3: i can't tell you exactly what happens, though, it's bitten me too in the past.
[18:05] <Bashing-om> apb1963_: What you often run into multu booting is a recursion effect in the boot loader . My solition ( I boot 5 'buntu's _ is to only have my primary system controlling boot . All others I have disabled 30_os-prober .
[18:07] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: How does one do that?
[18:09] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: I can't boot at all now.  I'm getting the infamous Dell reboot cycle and I don't even get to grub.. hell... it's not staying on long enough to even light up the monitor.  Maybe it needs to cool off.
[18:10] <Bashing-om> apb1963_: A lot of time and effort .. ask me ,, been there ,, took me weeks to figure it out . Takes effort to rebuild the grub.cfg of the primary operating system .. In my use case it works very very well .
[18:11] <terrible> it is possible make a program run in the background when im in the tty?
[18:12] <ducasse> terrible: 'program &'
[18:12] <Bashing-om> apb1963_: Have a read: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MaintenanceFreeCustomGrub2Screen . Cavsfan's solution works really well .
[18:13] <Aesir> set
[18:13] <terrible> ducasse: look what i get [1]+  Segmentation fault      (core dumped) deluge
[18:14] <terrible> ducasse: the program i want to run is the torrent called deluge
[18:14] <ducasse> terrible: are you trying to run this from a console or a terminal window in x?
[18:16] <jhutchins_wk> terrible: Client: http://dev.deluge-torrent.org/wiki/UserGuide/ThinClient
[18:16] <jhutchins_wk> terrible: Service: http://dev.deluge-torrent.org/wiki/UserGuide/Service
[18:16] <terrible> ducasse: from the console tty right now im working in the console tty but i want to run the program deluge while i still working in the tty
[18:17] <SchrodingersScat> is there a way to clear/wipe the display?  I have some video that has frozen into my x11 and I'd like to learn how to clear that
[18:18] <terrible> jhutchins_wk: i need a client for that??
[18:18] <ducasse> terrible: deluge is an x program, you need to set up environment variables so it will connect to your x server. it won't run without an x server to connect to. are you thinking of deluged/deluge-cli?
[18:20] <apb1963_> Bashing-om: thank you.  that guide is exactly what I was looking for.
[18:23] <terrible> ducasse: ok it is easy to set up an environment variables for deluge because i not a expert in linux?
[18:23] <ducasse> terrible: if x is running, why not just run it from an x terminal window?
[18:25] <terrible> ducasse: to tell the true sometime i get so lazy to switch to the x server i think deluge & will be my best bet :)
[18:26] <puchogenzo> hi guys
[18:26] <L_1> hi bro
[18:26] <SmitH_> so
[18:27] <SmitH_> to install a bootable ubuntu on my ssd
[18:27] <SmitH_> I just copy the image I would use with dd
[18:27] <ducasse> terrible: that's a terrible reason ;) set DISPLAY to your display number, probably :0.0 and XAUTHORITY to point to your .Xauthority file, probably in your homedir.
[18:27] <SmitH_> using gnome-disks
[18:27] <akik> SmitH_: no you need to create a boot media
[18:28] <akik> SmitH_: either an usb stick or a dvd
[18:28] <OerHeks> SmitH_, that would only be possible if you have grub installed already, isoboot.
[18:28] <SchrodingersScat> hmm, locking the screen and unlocking worked, but for how long?
[18:28] <SmitH_> so it's possible but not obvious
[18:28] <SmitH_> I'm intrigued
[18:29] <ducasse> SchrodingersScat: have you tried switching workspaces, or switching to a console and back?
[18:30] <OerHeks> else pxe boot
[18:30] <SchrodingersScat> ducasse: it's a VM if that matters.  I'll try both of those next time.
[18:31] <miguel> Hello
[18:31] <ducasse> SchrodingersScat: my display gets corrupted by a bug sometimes, switching to console and back fixes it. dunno about vm, those tend to just work...
[18:31] <L_1> I need make usb booting ubuntu i386 and amd64... on UEFI and BIOS Legacy in same USB . Possible?
[18:32] <apb1963_> SmitH_: See if cp bootimage.iso /dev/sda  where you fill in proper values for device and bootimage.  Not, you copy to /dev/sda NOT /dev/sda1, etc.  Device must NOT be mounted when you copy it.  You can mount it after the copy and verify it by eye.
[18:32] <terrible> ducasse: lol i now but it is safe to mess around with the environnment variables without having any problem because like a told you before im not a expert here?
[18:32] <SchrodingersScat> ducasse: originally I thought it was maybe opengl being weird, which it does do strange stuff, like if a video window is behind a terminal emulator then the video shows through.  Tried changing video driver to x11, got rid of that always being visible behind other windows, but still glitched on me, i'll keep you posted
[18:33] <apb1963_> SmitH_: sorry... some typos in that.  Let me know if it's not clear.
[18:33] <SmitH_> I know how to use dd
[18:33] <ducasse> terrible: depends on which variables you mess with, with these two the worst you can do is that it still won't connect to the server.
[18:34] <L_1> anyone help me make USB boot both in UEFI and BIOS?
[18:34] <SmitH_> I don't know what else I need
[18:34] <sgo11> hi, I am just wondering, if I use ecryptfs-setup-private to setup the encryption directory and then remove .ecryptfs/ directory, is that easy to recover?
[18:34] <SmitH_> L_1, good luck
[18:34] <L_1> SmitH_: kkk
[18:34] <SchrodingersScat> sgo11: I wouldn't think so, I think that's where it stores the actual files.  If you did this i would stop touching the disk asap
[18:35] <apb1963_> SmitH_: <OerHeks> SmitH_, that would only be possible if you have grub installed already, isoboot.
[18:35] <L_1> SmitH_: not possible?
[18:35] <ducasse> sgo11: no, that would be nearly impossible
 else pxe bootSmitH_:
[18:35] <sgo11> SchrodingersScat, no, that directory just stores Private.mnt Private.sig etc..
[18:35] <sgo11> ducasse, why not? if I know my password.
[18:36] <sgo11> SchrodingersScat, the actual encrypted files are stored in ~/.Private
[18:36] <apb1963_> so I think my mamaboard might be fried... my monitor doesn't even get a signal anymore
[18:36] <SchrodingersScat> oh, k
[18:37] <ducasse> sgo11: it also has your wrapped passphrase, do you have a copy of your unwrapped passphrase?
[18:37] <sgo11> ducasse, I input the unwrapped passphrase by hand, the passphrase is just in my head.
[18:38] <terrible> ducasse: who wont connect to the server? the program deluge? or what?
[18:38] <ducasse> sgo11: then i would think you are ok
[18:38] <sgo11> I am just wondering how important the files Private.mnt  Private.sig  wrapped-passphrase are. and how to generate them easily.
[18:38] <ducasse> terrible: deluged won't connect to the x server
[18:40] <terrible> ducasse: ok i get it and thank for the help
[18:40] <ducasse> sgo11: Private.mnt just points to where the ecryptfs should be mounted, it seems
[18:42] <sgo11> ducasse, yeah, I am wondering if they can be generated by some commands automatically. there are two lines in Private.sig. I am not sure if the second one is important or not and if the file can be generated.
[18:43] <b100s> hi2all
[18:44] <b100s> is it possible to install .rpm by rpm utility on ubuntu 14.04 ?
[18:44] <Bashing-om> !alien | b100s
[18:45] <ducasse> sgo11: no idea, sorry. there's a ton of ectptfs-* man pages, and most of them are light on info...
[18:47] <b100s> Bashing-om, hmm.. let me put out my though: if i have rpm utility on my system, why i cant use it to install?
[18:47] <ducasse> b100s: don't install rpm packages as-is, it's a bad idea.
[18:47] <b100s> answer is not supported is not what i expect : ) i mean, what obstacle it?
[18:47] <OerHeks> the rpm's are written for a different branch of linux. next generation snap and flatpack will be both usable
[18:48] <b100s> rpm is just archive and berkley DB, what can be a problem to use it?
[18:48] <OerHeks> double orchestra of packagemanagment, great
[18:48] <Bashing-om> b100s: could be a lof of reasons why not. maybe 'alien' can not check/resolve dependencies ??
[18:49] <OerHeks> it is not supported.
[18:49] <ducasse> b100s: why do you want to do this in the first place?
[18:49] <OerHeks> you *can* retrieve files that are not available.
[18:49] <b100s> sometimes i want to do thing just because want to do it : )
[18:49] <ducasse> b100s: still a terrible idea.
[18:50] <b100s> ducasse, dont thing so. it can be impossible or hard to do, but still not terrible.
[18:50] <OerHeks> try it out with libc :-D
[18:50] <ducasse> b100s: if you want to break your system, go ahead. just don't come back here for support when it does.
[18:51] <b100s> but main thing is: i want to understand why. so let go through it step by step. rpm take spec and try to put files to them place. what can be wrong on that step?
[18:52] <OerHeks> again: try it out with libc :-D
[18:52] <ducasse> b100s: take this to #ubuntu-offtopic or ##linux please, we're here to help people with actual problems.
[18:52] <OerHeks> the error will give a clue
[18:55] <b100s> OerHeks, ) ducasse, that is a problem strongly relative to #ubuntu because i want to do "thing" under ubuntu. how important thing is strictly mine decision and you can help or not help, but that place, i think, is right one for ask that kind of question, IMO
[18:56] <ducasse> b100s: "sometimes i want to do thing just because want to do it" = "not an actual problem"
[18:56] <OerHeks> Yes, your decision, but offtopic.
[18:57] <nacc> b100s: put another way, this is the official ubuntu support channel. What you are describing is not supported. Therefore it is offtopic.
[18:57] <Bashing-om> b100s: And you are looking at a bag of worms, that might mislead others .
[18:59] <Ntemis> hello guys
[18:59] <b100s> ducasse, bad, bad guy :) actuality(for me) of problem determined only by me and have no any link with why that problem is born. nacc , that s right, can be a good reason to stop speak about it.
[18:59] <OerHeks> again, you *can* retrieve files from rpm that are not available  as source/deb format. what you do with it, if it works, fine.
[18:59] <Ntemis> i just copied 300gb of data into another hdd and i need to make sure everything went ok before i delete
[18:59] <Ntemis> how i can do that?
[19:00] <OerHeks> Ntemis, 33333diff the folders?
[19:00] <OerHeks> or likely you would see errors if there is something wrong.
[19:01] <Ntemis> 33333diff is an app?
[19:01] <adamc> another Mid 2007 MAcbook restored thanks to Ubuntu! :) did not want to throw this laptop out as now this is my media server :)
[19:01] <Bashing-om> Ntemis: One way is with md5sum verification , See: ' man md5sum ' .
[19:01] <OerHeks> oeps > diff
[19:01] <Ntemis> OerHeks: i saw my data corruption once before evn if they went ok
[19:01] <OerHeks> diff -r <directory1> <directory2>
[19:01] <Ntemis> even
[19:02] <Ntemis> diff will hash compare every file and dir too?
[19:02] <OerHeks> yes, and joey gives the filename compare example http://askubuntu.com/questions/421712/comparing-the-contents-of-two-directories
[19:02] <OerHeks> and more filters ..
[19:03] <Ntemis> nice ans easy thanks
[19:03] <Ntemis> and
[19:04] <Ntemis> how long will be for 300gb?
[19:04] <Ntemis> just started the proccess and doesnt have an output
[19:04] <OerHeks> depends, internal/external? or both internal, same drive or dual?
[19:05] <Ntemis> 1 usb ext other internal
[19:05] <rif> heloo
[19:05] <rif> anyone here ?
[19:05] <OerHeks> blocksize and filesizes .. 5 minutes or so?
[19:05] <Ntemis> too many i can guess
[19:05] <Ntemis> OerHeks: that was for rif
[19:06] <sgo11> ducasse, I think I figured it out. I simply mv .Private to somewhere else. and then run ecryptfs-setup-private again. finally, rmdir .Private and mv my old .Private back. that's all. the .ecryptfs will be created automatically by the command ecryptfs-setup-private.
[19:06] <Ntemis> i can see this Only in /media/demetris/wbfs2fat: .Trash-1000
[19:06] <Ntemis> lol
[19:09] <Bashing-om> Ntemis: Where did the external drive get mounted to ? ' mount ' may give a different mount point than "media" ??
[19:09] <Ntemis> Bashing-om: both mounted in /media
[19:10] <ducasse> sgo11: ok, and it then mounts without problems?
[19:10] <sgo11> ducasse, yeah.
[19:11] <pffffffft> I'm hitch-hiking a NICE truck to France.
[19:11]  * pffffffft is triggered!
[19:15] <Era> Uh I need help with OpenJDK 8
[19:16] <nacc> Era: please describe your problem in more detail
[19:17] <Era> I installed openjdk-8-jdk to run Minecraft, whenever I try to launch it through the right click context menu however it just doesnt do anything
[19:17] <Era> No entry in htop either
[19:18] <nacc> Era: can you run it from the terminal and see what, if any, errors it reports (minecraft, i guess)
[19:18] <Era> I dont know the command for it, could you tell me what it is please?
[19:18] <nacc> Era: i don't run minecraft, so I have no idea... where did you install minecraft from?
[19:19] <Era> Extracted it from zip
[19:19] <Era> It works plenty fine on my 2nd machine
[19:19] <Era> So its not the file itself, atleast in my opinion
[19:19] <morti> does it have something like launcher.jar?
[19:19] <Era> Yes it does.
[19:19] <morti> try running java -jar launcher.jar in the terminal
[19:20] <nacc> morti: thanks
[19:20] <Era> It says the program Java can be found in the following packages, then lists a few packages
[19:20] <nacc> oh you installed the jdk, Era ?
[19:20] <nacc> you need the jre, i think
[19:20] <Era> I did
[19:20] <Era> jre as well
[19:20] <Era> I've installed any and all jre packages
[19:21] <morti> nacc: no problem :)
[19:22] <ShaggyInc> hi
[19:22] <ShaggyInc> is there any way for the unity launcher to only show apps on the current workspace?
[19:23] <ioria> Era, dpkg -l openjdk-8-jre
[19:23] <nacc> Era: 16.04, right?
[19:23] <Era> Yes, 16.04
[19:24] <Era> Should I up the output to hastebin?
[19:24] <ioria> Era,  it shows 'ii' ?
[19:24] <Era> Yes
[19:25] <ioria> Era,   and you get "the program Java can be found in the following packages" ?
[19:25] <nacc> Era: could you pastebin taht output and `dpkg -l openjdk-8-jre-headless` ?
[19:25] <nacc> Era: and does `which java` report anything?
[19:26] <Era> which java does not report anything
[19:26] <Era> http://hastebin.com/erevocizic.pas
[19:26] <nacc> Era: and can you pastebin the full ouput from when you tried to run java?
[19:26] <nacc> ah you did :)
[19:27] <Era> http://hastebin.com/nabeyaxiye.1c
[19:28] <ioria> Era,  java --version
[19:28] <morti> Doesn't ubuntu have update-alternatives command, which allows you to set which package you want to use? Maybe this would help?
[19:28] <Era> Same as above, Java can be found in packages
[19:29] <morti> maybe just sudo update-alternatives --config java will do
[19:29] <nacc> Era: `ls -ahl /usr/bin/java` ?
[19:29] <Era> Nothing to configure
[19:29] <nacc> morti: yeah but it shoudl already have been invoked if it needed to be (aiui)
[19:30] <Era> `lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 22 Sep  8 23:39 /usr/bin/java -> /etc/alternatives/java
[19:30] <Era> `
[19:30] <morti> nacc: well, it was worth a shot :)
[19:30] <nacc> Era: ok, what is your $PATH set to ?
[19:30] <nacc> Era: e.g. `echo $PATH` ?
[19:31] <Era> `/home/eragera/bin:/home/eragera/.local/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games:/usr/local/games:/snap/bin`
[19:32] <nacc> Era: hrm, ok, `ls -ahl /etc/alternatives/java` ?
[19:32] <Era> `lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 42 Sep  8 23:39 /etc/alternatives/java -> /usr/lib/jvm/java-9-openjdk-amd64/bin/java`
[19:32] <nacc> ah ha
[19:33] <nacc> ok it's odd that update-alternatives didn't see that, though
[19:33] <Era> I see the problem
[19:33] <nacc> morti: ioria: normally, it should have, right?
[19:33] <ioria> yep
[19:33] <Era> Derp, I forgot to mention that openjdk-9-jdk install failed because a dpkg error
[19:34] <nacc> ah yes, don't use it
[19:34] <ioria> okkk
[19:34] <Era> I removed it
[19:34] <Era> installed 8
[19:34] <Era> I thought it would have been fine -_-"
[19:34] <jhutchins_wk> How can I find out what version of alsa is current on Ubuntu if I don't have an ubutu installation?
[19:34] <ioria> Era, dpkg -l | grep openjdk-9*
[19:34] <ioria> sorry
[19:34] <ducasse> jhutchins_wk: packages.ubuntu.com
[19:34] <jhutchins_wk> ducasse: thx
[19:35] <nacc> !info alsa-base xenial | jhutchins_wk
[19:35] <Era> `rc  openjdk-9-jre-headless:amd64          9~b114-0ubuntu1                                             amd64        OpenJDK Java runtime, using Hotspot JIT (headless)`
[19:35] <nacc> jhutchins_wk: or similar if you konw the package name
[19:35] <ioria> Era, from Oraclae ?
[19:35] <ioria> *Oracle
[19:35] <Era> No, Havent installed anything oracle yet, only openjdk
[19:35] <nacc> ioria: no, it's in the archive, but doesn't work (iirc)
[19:36] <ioria> nacc, i see
[19:36] <nacc> it doesn't release officially until next year anyways
[19:36] <nacc> i've seen others hit similar problems, though
[19:36] <ioria> !info openjdk-9-jre-headless
[19:37] <ioria> Era, from the ubu repo ?
[19:37] <nacc> LP: #1584118
[19:37] <Era> Yes
[19:37] <ioria> Era  sudo apt-get purge  openjdk-9-jre-headless
[19:38] <Era> `dpkg: warning: while removing openjdk-9-jre-headless:amd64, directory '/usr/lib/jvm/java-9-openjdk-amd64/lib/amd64/server' not empty so not removed`
[19:38] <gabriel_awe> wow
[19:38] <gabriel_awe> stay the f away of jdk9
[19:38] <gabriel_awe> it crashes a lot of stuff
[19:38] <Era> Yea well I didnt know that -_-""
[19:39] <gabriel_awe> honestly even 8 hurts
[19:39] <gabriel_awe> xD
[19:39] <Era> How am I supposed to run minecraft then...
[19:39] <gabriel_awe> The issue is that they deprecated some stuff in the last versions, but instead of dealing with the exeptions the programs simply crash and burn
[19:39] <gabriel_awe> install 7
[19:39] <gabriel_awe> you shouldn't note much of a difference
[19:39] <Era> 7 isnt in the repo tho?
[19:39] <gabriel_awe> yes it is
[19:39] <gabriel_awe> even 6 is in the repo
[19:39] <ioria> Era,  la -al
[19:40] <ioria> Era,  la -al /usr/lib/jvm/java-9-openjdk-amd64/lib/amd64/server
[19:40] <Era> it only shows me 8 and 9
[19:40] <ioria> Era,   sorry, ls -al /usr/lib/jvm/java-9-openjdk-amd64/lib/amd64/server
[19:40] <gabriel_awe> du an aptitude search jdk
[19:40] <gabriel_awe> then unisntall the 9 and install the 7 or 6
[19:41] <nacc> gabriel_awe: 16.04 doese not have 6 or 7
[19:41] <zyepto> hi
[19:41] <gabriel_awe> dude
[19:41] <Era> http://hastebin.com/onavocelew.hs
[19:41] <gabriel_awe> I'm running 16.04 with 6
[19:41] <gabriel_awe> And I did it all with aptitude
[19:41] <nacc> !info openjdk-6-jre xenial
[19:41] <nacc> !info openjdk-7-jre xenial
[19:41] <gabriel_awe> wait
[19:41] <nacc> gabriel_awe: are you usinga  PPA?
[19:41] <zyepto> hi
[19:41] <gabriel_awe> yep xD
[19:42] <gabriel_awe> sorry ! My bad
[19:42] <nacc> gabriel_awe: np :)
[19:42] <Era> Posted the output of ls -al
[19:42] <ioria> Era,  try to mv that file ... if no avail restore it
[19:43] <gabriel_awe> I would add the ppa, remove the 9 and then install the 7
[19:43] <gabriel_awe> it's what I did and the .jar woek perfect
[19:44] <Era> should I try to move just the classes.jsa or the whole OpenJDK 9 dir?
[19:44] <gabriel_awe> Sorry, gotta run, but that should work. Otherwise open the configuration of the file and comment the line that is giving you trouble (seems to wrk depending on th issue)
[19:44] <ioria> Era,  just the file
[19:45] <Era> Done
[19:45] <Era> Now what?
[19:45] <ioria> Era,  purge again
[19:45] <Era> not installed, so not removed
[19:45] <ioria> Era,  no other errors ?
[19:46] <Era> no
[19:46] <Era> Should I try running MC again?
[19:46] <ioria> Era,  apt-cache policy openjdk-9-jre-headless
[19:47] <Era> http://hastebin.com/tametawobi.sm
[19:48] <ioria> Era,  apt-cache policy openjdk-8-jre-headless
[19:48] <daku_> hopefully a quick question: what level of black magic would I need to use to know why databases don't show up in "show databases". I KNOW there are wordpress databases there but they seem to not be showing up. (Website works so I know they're there)
[19:48] <Era> http://hastebin.com/heteluqoye.avrasm
[19:48] <ioria> Era,  java --version
[19:49] <Era> Same as before
[19:49] <Era> Java can be found in following packages etc
[19:50] <ioria> Era,  which java
[19:50] <Era> no output
[19:52] <nacc> did the alternative get updated?
[19:52] <Era> It did not
[19:52] <Era> Should I do it manually
[19:53] <Era> would rm'ing `/usr/lib/jvm/java-9-openjdk-amd64/bin/java` break more than fix?
[19:53] <ioria> Era,  /usr/bin/java
[19:53] <ioria> Era,  ls /usr/bin/java
[19:54] <Era> `/usr/bin/java`
[19:54] <ioria> Era,  ls -l /usr/bin/java
[19:55] <Era> `lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 22 Sep  8 23:39 /usr/bin/java -> /etc/alternatives/java`
[19:56] <mstf> hi everybady
[19:56] <ioria> Era,  java -version
[19:56] <nacc> so i'm guessing because i got distracted, but i think /etc/alternatives/java need to be updated to point to /usr/lib/jvm/java-8-openjdk-amd64/bin/java
[19:56] <Era> same as before
[19:56] <mstf> tuk var mi
[19:57] <Era> Should I remove /usr/lib/jvm/java-9-openjdk-amd64/
[19:57] <Guest37490> il aurait un canal irc sure hexchat ubuntu ou d autre canal francais je vient seulement de commencer ici lol
[19:57] <ioria> Era,  sudo update-alternatives --config java
[19:58] <Era> http://hastebin.com/ufojuwuqoy.vhdl
[20:00] <ioria> Era,  maybe purge 8 as well, and install default-jre
[20:00] <Era> Uh, Okay
[20:02] <Era> Done
[20:02] <ioria> Era,  java -version
[20:02] <Era> installing default-jre, a sec
[20:02] <Era> this will take a while
[20:02] <Era> my net isnt the best out there
[20:04] <ioria> Era,  you're not 32 bit right ?
[20:04] <Era> No, 64bit
[20:06] <squig> death to 32 bit
[20:08] <wmlulo> hello
[20:09] <Era> ioria, Done
[20:09] <ioria> Era,  java -version
[20:09] <elisa87> can someone help me with this? http://stackoverflow.com/questions/39398918/postgresql-9-4-ubuntu-15-10-could-not-load-pg-hba-conf?noredirect=1#comment66124666_39398918
[20:09] <Era> Uh Hastebin isnt loading so
[20:09] <Era> it returns stuff now
[20:10] <MonkeyDust> elisa87  what's the output of   cat /etc/issue
[20:10] <Era> http://www.hastebin.com/kezevuhahe.hs
[20:10] <ioria> Era,  it's ok
[20:10] <elisa87> MonkeyDust: Ubuntu 15.10 \n \l
[20:10] <Era> It works now?
[20:10] <MonkeyDust> elisa87   is dead, that'qs why nothing works
[20:11] <ioria> Era,  which java
[20:11] <Era> `/usr/bin/java`
[20:11] <ioria> Era,  seems ok
[20:11] <Era> Look at that, it launched
[20:11] <Era> Thanks for all the help
[20:12] <elisa87> MonkeyDust: why it doesn't work?
[20:12] <ioria> Era,  good, have fun
[20:12] <MonkeyDust> elisa87  because 15.10 is !eol
[20:12] <forzanapoli76> !list
[20:12] <k1l> elisa87: upgrade to 16.04 asap
[20:13] <MonkeyDust> !15.10 > elisa87
[20:24] <Arexss> hey guys is there any of you that passed the comptia security+?
[20:29] <gzoo> I created a Link to a shell script in a subfolder under my $HOME. If I place the Link on my desktop and run it it runs in the wrong folder so it won't work
[20:30] <gzoo> (runs on Desktop instead of the $HOME/subfolder)
[20:30] <pffffffft> do you know what I hate most about negros (including sand niggers and hispanics) and homosexuals? Their tendencies to rape, kill and steal. This is because of their low IQ and their lack of foresight. Women and niggers are at the same level intellectually and are inferior in every way. That's why the jews and the dirty white racist male pigs are trying to mix racially.
[20:39] <bebeautiful> http://www.renegadebroadcasting.com/firestarter-radio-building-resistance-8-30-16/
[20:58] <Arexss> hey guys is there any of you that passed the comptia security+?
[21:00] <MonkeyDust> Arexss  that's for #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:02] <megaJohn> Noobish Question: So far I've only installed packages (on to you ubuntu) from the default ubuntu repository. However, for my academic work, I really want to install Mendeley -- commonly used software. Is this wise??
[21:25] <Gibbs> Hi, I'm having an issue with Ubuntu Server 12.04.5 LTS
[21:26] <silvian> Hi Gibbs
[21:26] <Gibbs> Could anyone help me figure out the problem? The server stays up, but my website goes down for a period of a few to 15 minutes.
[21:26] <silvian> what's the issue?
[21:27] <silvian> ok what webserver or servlet container do you use?
[21:27] <silvian> apache?
[21:27] <Gibbs> Yes
[21:27] <silvian> which version?
[21:27] <Gibbs> Hold on
[21:27] <Gibbs> 2.2.22
[21:28] <silvian> ok
[21:28] <silvian> anything weird in the error logs?
[21:28] <silvian> usually in apache home /logs/error.log
[21:28] <silvian> or access.log
[21:28] <Gibbs> I had an issue ever since the server had some maintenance and I thought it was just that they're doing something, but now they've been done for over a week and there's still random unresponsiveness to the website.
[21:29] <Elvis4357> f**k i got a blue screen
[21:29] <silvian> yeah that is weird
[21:29] <Gibbs> That's the thing, I didn't see anything strange there. Except a blank space during that time.
[21:30] <k1l> Gibbs: running out of ram? does the server hardware has issues? did you look at syslog in /var7log ?
[21:30] <silvian> i'm thinking what does your usual server runtime process activity look like
[21:30] <silvian> have a look at top
[21:30] <Gibbs> Let me double check that log
[21:30] <silvian> or install htop which is quite nice
[21:31] <mikodo> I've decided on using ubiguity to encypt the drive (dm-crypt) for my next install, (first time). Does anyone know if ubiquity allows for minimizing the size of Swap?
[21:32]  * Elvis4357 slaps cadeskywalker around a bit with a large trout
[21:33] <silvian> i wonder Gibbs if your server's free memory is running low
[21:33] <Gibbs> Looks like it ran this at the time of crash: cd / && run-parts --report /etc/cron.hourly
[21:33] <silvian> or there are more processes taking up CPU time
[21:33] <Gibbs> Memory usage is only 8%
[21:33] <silvian> ok
[21:33] <Gibbs> System load 0.35
[21:33] <silvian> no that can't be the issue then
[21:33] <silvian> everything seems fine
[21:34] <silvian> you only have to start to worry if system load goes over 5.0
[21:34] <silvian> and stays above 5.0
[21:35] <Gibbs> Hmm I checked and another cron hourly job ran around a different "crash" time. The server stays up, but website crashes.
[21:36] <silvian> what exactly is that cron job doing i wonder
[21:36] <silvian> run-parts
[21:36] <Gibbs> ?
[21:37] <silvian> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/trusty/man8/run-parts.8.html
[21:37] <silvian> have a look at that... why does that job run?
[21:38] <Gibbs> CMD (cd / && run-parts --report /etc/cron.hourly)
[21:38] <Gibbs> That was in cron.log
[21:38] <veil__> Hello all, having a small dependency/candidate issue. Here's the link to my problem posted on reddit since I can't fully post here, if you can help please PM
[21:38] <veil__> https://www.reddit.com/r/computers/comments/51snte/dependancy_issue_with_linux_installation_of/
[21:39] <OerHeks> veil__, i don't do pm, 14.10 is EOL, dead
[21:39] <silvian> can you see your crontab?
[21:39] <veil__> Sorry, new to linux. Come back alive and explain lmfao.
[21:39] <Gibbs> sure, hold on
[21:39] <OerHeks> upgrade 14.10 > 15.04 > 15.10 > 16.04 LTS... or just reinstall
[21:39] <silvian> do you have access to the crontab to see exactly what is scheduled
[21:39] <OerHeks> veil, good troll, succes
[21:39] <Gibbs> I was just looking at it and I changed it because it was running a php script but the directory was wrong
[21:40] <silvian> ok and you don't have other cron jobs running as other users on teh system or as root that coincide with the time of the crashes no?
[21:40] <Gibbs> 1 2 * * * sudo -u www-data /usr/bin/php "/home/folder/public_html/another_folder/cron.php" "password"
[21:41] <silvian> if it does something super intensive and hogs up all the resources in that time it could slow down your site hosting
[21:41] <Gibbs> I do have an SQL backup script running every night
[21:41] <Gibbs> But the crashes happen at random times
[21:41] <silvian> yeah no that's not it
[21:41] <Gibbs> Even during daytime
[21:41] <silvian> rihgt
[21:41] <Gibbs> Seems totally random
[21:41] <silvian> yeah it is
[21:41] <silvian> weird
[21:41] <Gibbs> But luckily been mostly at night
[21:42] <silvian> i would keep an eye and maybe record access logs for a week perhaps
[21:42] <silvian> then grep through them for matchin re occuring ip addresses
[21:42] <Gibbs> I ran crontab -e to check the cron jobs, is there a possibility there's more somewhere else?
[21:43] <Gibbs> I have access logs running all the time
[21:43] <silvian> yeah it depends what user you use crontab for
[21:43] <Gibbs> as root
[21:43] <silvian> you can say sudo su && crontab -l for root
[21:43] <silvian> if you are root
[21:43] <silvian> then you can say crontab -l -u user
[21:43] <silvian> to see other user's cron jobs on the system
[21:44] <Gibbs> Ok, looks like nothing else on only user either
[21:44] <veil__> I've tried to update, and it wont fetch and I have ubunutu  hard installed, will I have rewrite on partition?
[21:45] <silvian> anyway i was saying the guys i was helping with site hosting... i noticed someone attempted a DDoS type attack and the frequent reoccurance of about 4-5 IP addresses was an indication of something nasty. They kept hitting the page up to 50 times in a minute on average. But luckily it wasn't enough to take the site down, was just running slower.
[21:45] <Gibbs> I'm checking the access log
[21:46] <k1l> veil__: what is the output of "lsb_release -sd"?
[21:46] <dStruct> veil__: that error looks like it's for trying to install on Debian?
[21:46] <Gibbs> Hmm, ok
[21:46] <veil__> 14.10
[21:46] <k1l> veil__: 14.10 is dead long time.
[21:47] <k1l> dead over a year now.
[21:47] <veil__> Not sure exactly what you mean? Should wipe and install 16. whatever then?
[21:47] <k1l> veil__: your only chance now is doing 3 OS upgrades to 16.04 or install 16.04 over the 14.10.
[21:47] <dStruct> veil__: you should be able to apt-get dist-upgrade to the most current version usually
[21:47] <k1l> dStruct: veil__ ubuntu doesnt use apt-get to upgrade to a new ubuntu release
[21:47] <veil__> didn't work.
[21:48] <veil__> tried earlier.
[21:48] <k1l> veil__: the fastest solution is to do a reinstall of 16.04
[21:48] <veil__> Okay, I can install over old part. right?
[21:48] <veil__> no problems?
[21:49] <Gibbs> There's many IP addresses during the time of the issue, but the same one's are accessing many files when the website loads, that's all. I don't see something alarming...
[21:49] <k1l> veil__: yes
[21:49] <dStruct> k1l: when did apt-get dist-upgrade stop being an option?
[21:49] <veil__> Okay, just making sure. Thanks I'll go do that now.
[21:49] <k1l> dStruct: right from the start? ubuntu uses update-manager on gui or do-release-upgrade on cli
[21:50] <dax> (not right from the start, but it was like a decade ago)
[21:50] <Gibbs> silvian: Nothing strange in access log afaik. Is there any other log or anything else I could check to find out what happened?
[21:50] <dStruct> k1l: dunno, I've always used sudo apt-get dist-upgrade, but maybe that won't go past the version I'm currently on, I'll have to check that
[21:50] <k1l> i am not sure about the first ubuntus.
[21:51] <ultrixx> hi! anyone with a 4k monitor here? i would like to know if ubuntu ui/fonts look good on a 4k monitor
[21:51] <k1l> dStruct: that method with changing the sources.list will still work since apt wokrs with that. but ubuntus upgrader do handle the PPAs etc. so that is the supported ubuntu way.
[21:52] <dStruct> k1l: ahh gotcha, ok then that makes sense
[21:54] <janopineda> j
[21:54] <slicktux> k
[21:54] <janopineda> hola
[21:54] <slicktux> aloha
[21:55] <slicktux> yo know poquito espanoll
[21:55] <janopineda> me too
[21:55] <nuno_nunes> !es
[21:55] <nuno_nunes> hi goodnigt for all :)
[21:56] <janopineda> after here
[21:56] <slicktux> 0.0
[21:56] <silvian> Gibbs: hmm the only other thing i could think of is whatever web framework you are using
[21:56] <nuno_nunes> !pt
[21:56] <nuno_nunes> !jp
[21:56] <silvian> if your web application has other logs outside of apache
[21:56] <nuno_nunes> :)
[21:56] <slicktux> !ru
[21:57] <Gibbs> silvian: For example, Expressionengine?
[21:57] <janopineda> ?
[21:58] <silvian> Gibbs: not familiar with it... is it a PHP based framework?
[21:58] <Gibbs> It's a CMS based on PHP
[21:58] <janopineda> oki
[21:58] <Gibbs> silvian: Do you think this could have to do with updating PHP?
[21:58] <silvian> ah right similar to Joomla, Wordpress etc
[21:59] <silvian> oh hold on
[21:59] <silvian> didn't think of that
[21:59] <silvian> which PHP version are you running
[21:59] <silvian> and are you running apache 2.2.22 with the right php modules for that version?
[21:59] <Gibbs> 5.3.10
[21:59] <silvian> when you update PHP you need to update php modules
[22:00] <silvian> accordingly and re build apache with the correct module
[22:00] <silvian> 5.3.10? that is ancient :P
[22:00] <Gibbs> silvian: I only ever ran "apt-get update && apt-get upgrade"
[22:00] <rany> I use Sophos for my servers, is that a good choice?
[22:00] <Gibbs> silvian: Well, my code might be ancient too...
[22:00] <silvian> really and they don't offer you a later version than 5.3?
[22:01] <silvian> from apt-get
[22:01] <Gibbs> silvian: I'm afraid my code might stop working if I update
[22:01] <Gibbs> silvian: let me see
[22:01] <rany> It is a paid product BTW
[22:02] <rany> Not open-source like the community likes it, but I think it is good.
[22:02] <Gibbs> silvian: no, they don't offer any newer version
[22:02] <rany> Does anyone think my option was a bad one?
[22:02] <silvian> Gibbs: yeah fair enough
[22:02] <silvian> but whatever version they offer it should be the stable
[22:02] <silvian> release
[22:02] <rany> Should have i just setup a cron and used clamav instead?
[22:03] <silvian> it is weird
[22:03] <Gibbs> yeah :/
[22:03] <silvian> my only concern is Expressionengine and the databse it uses
[22:03] <silvian> assuming it uses one
[22:04] <silvian> if the connection between that and the db drops for whatever reason
[22:04] <silvian> that could stop expression engine from service the pages then
[22:04] <silvian> and it wouldn't be apache's fault and it wouldn't show up in the error logs
[22:04] <Gibbs> It uses SQL
[22:04] <silvian> MySQL?
[22:04] <Gibbs> yes
[22:06] <Gibbs> silvian: Oh, but no
[22:06] <silvian> if you installed MySQL from apt-get then i reckon there should be logging in /var/log/mysql/
[22:06] <silvian> what sort of log files do you have there?
[22:06] <Gibbs> silvian: I have a separate "system" running that's just pure PHP and not through Expressionengine and that doesn't work either.
[22:07] <silvian> you mean separate virtual hosts service different web content
[22:07] <Gibbs> silvian: Yes, I checked the logs now but they're empty.
[22:07] <silvian> and they both suffer from same issue during the same time it happens
[22:07] <Gibbs> silvian: No, same host but not Expressionengine. Just PHP.
[22:08] <silvian> yeah mysql log files probably log only errors and they get rolled over quickly
[22:08] <Gibbs> silvian: Yeah
[22:08] <Gibbs> silvian: Both suffer from the issue
[22:08] <Gibbs> silvian: There's lots of .gz files in mysql logs, but I have no clue how to read them.
[22:09] <silvian> yeah so apache server here is doing something... that or the combination of apache version and php version you're running
[22:09] <silvian> oh they are gzip
[22:09] <Gibbs> silvian: The .log are empty
[22:09] <silvian> they get rolled over and archived
[22:09] <silvian> you have to run
[22:09] <Gibbs> silvian: Hmm ok
[22:09] <silvian> gunzip your.gz file
[22:09] <silvian> to unzip it
[22:09] <silvian> then you can do maybe view file.log
[22:10] <Gibbs> silvian: Weird. I did, but .log.1 is empty as well
[22:10] <Gibbs> silvian: And .2
[22:10] <silvian> log for what
[22:10] <silvian> mysql?
[22:10] <nacc> silvian: you can just use `zless` fwiw
[22:11] <Gibbs> silvian: Yes, error.log
[22:11] <silvian> yeah so that's not been loggin any erros
[22:11] <silvian> cool
[22:11] <genii> nacc: Beat me to it, was going to mention that and zcat
[22:11] <Gibbs> silvian: Mysql log is empty as well
[22:11] <Gibbs> silvian: log.1 I mean
[22:12] <Gibbs> silvian: And .2
[22:12] <Gibbs> silvian: Wonder why it's making these gzips if the logging is disabled...
[22:12] <silvian> no its not disabled but it hasn't logged any errors
[22:13] <silvian> so it zipped empty log files during the scheduled process
[22:13] <Gibbs> silvian: Anyway, should I do some checking about PHP and Apache?
[22:13] <silvian> Gibbs: I would try perhaps to post a question on Stack overflow
[22:13] <silvian> or similar forums
[22:13] <silvian> with exact version of PHP and apache
[22:13] <Gibbs> silvian: Hmm, ok good idea
[22:13] <silvian> and the php module installed
[22:13] <silvian> and see if someone else experienced similar issues
[22:14] <silvian> maybe mention the CMS framework you're using
[22:14] <Gibbs> silvian: How do I see the modules? I have practically 0 experience on Linux
[22:14] <silvian> we ran through the obvious steps here to try to find the root cause here
[22:15] <silvian> Gibbs: there is usually a php.ini file
[22:15] <silvian> let me remember where its located.. usually under /usr/local
[22:15] <silvian> or /usr/share/lib
[22:15] <silvian> somewhere
[22:16] <silvian> hmm no ubuntu it says its in /etc/php5/apache2
[22:16] <silvian> if there is such a directory on your system
[22:16] <silvian> try that first
[22:16] <squinty> install mlocate -> locate php.ini  in terminal
[22:16] <silvian> or try what squinty suggested yeah
[22:16] <Gibbs> Yep, found it
[22:16] <silvian> cool
[22:17] <Gibbs> at /etc/php5/apache2
[22:17] <silvian> yeah do view php.ini
[22:17] <silvian> then in view you can use the /
[22:17] <Gibbs> viewing
[22:17] <silvian> to search keywords
[22:18] <silvian> like apache
[22:18] <silvian> see what modules it has
[22:18] <silvian> to escape from view
[22:18] <silvian> you press escape then : and then q
[22:18] <silvian> hit enter
[22:18] <Gibbs> I'm using nano
[22:18] <Gibbs> But anyway
[22:18] <silvian> or yeah cool
[22:18] <silvian> whichever you love the most :D
[22:18] <Gibbs> Hmm
[22:19] <Gibbs> This file is huge
[22:20] <silvian> yeah all modules extensions and their configurations  should be in there
[22:21] <angel_> hi
[22:21] <Gibbs> silvian: Should I search for extensions?
[22:21] <Gibbs> silvian: I found module settings
[22:22] <silvian> yeah that will give you the path to each extension
[22:22] <silvian> cool
[22:22] <silvian> if they have ; before exension= whatever
[22:22] <silvian> ; is comment in php.ini
[22:23] <silvian> so that means that line is commented out
[22:23] <silvian> which means that module is not enabled
[22:23] <silvian> so you can disregard those with ;
[22:23] <Grorco> Hi can you have ubuntu act as a wireless ap and a server at the same time?
[22:24] <silvian> Anyway Gibbs hopefully this has been somewhat helpful and will get you the information you need when posting a question on stack overflow and get nearer to the root cause here.
[22:25] <Grorco> I want to make a login page for the wireless ap, but last night I noticed I couldn't share a folder with samba
[22:25] <Gibbs> silvian: Yeah, I think this really helped to get to the bottom of this. I really appreciate it mate.
[22:25] <silvian> Its a tricky one and it might not be a single component here causing the issue but a combination of the things you run together
[22:25] <silvian> Gibbs: No problem... glad we can help a bit :)
[22:25] <Gibbs> silvian: Yeah probably. So strange it started suddenly after over 1 year of no problems...
[22:25] <tomreyn> what Gibbs  needs is better monitoring
[22:26] <silvian> yeah somethig has changed
[22:26] <Gibbs> tomreyn: You're probably right, any suggestions on what to use?
[22:27] <Gibbs> silvian: Must've been something about server config when they did maintenance or maybe I happened to run updates around the same time.
[22:27] <silvian> be it verion of php or new module installed or perhaps upgrading php but without the right module installed and running in apache. Could be combination of reasons here.
[22:27] <tux_> Hey guys .. just installed Ubuntu Trusty on a old computer (AMD Turion64) .. ubuntu shows to run smoothly which is cool but NetworkManager shows only WEP encription for me, not WPA ..  I dont think this is a HW limitation, I'm trying to get it updated after this fresh install but any idea?
[22:27] <silvian> Gibbs: or server config in other places yeah
[22:28] <Skip> .
[22:28] <silvian> its a tough one to nail down you have to think of even changes over time
[22:28] <silvian> silly question... but was apache restarted after the php update? :P
[22:28] <Gibbs> silvian: True, I think it's not an easy issue... Was thinking of trying to move to another server, but not sure if that would help at all.
[22:28] <tomreyn> Gibbs: munin or http://my-netdata.io/ ... or one of the many others ;)
[22:28] <Gibbs> silvian: Yes, several times, most recently today.
[22:29] <silvian> yeah cool
[22:29] <silvian> the only thing crossing my mind is that apache will not pick up latest module configs/installs unless it is rebooted
[22:29] <silvian> so it will run with old ones precached in mem
[22:29] <Gibbs> tomreyn: Thanks, I'll check those out
[22:30] <Skip> hi guys
[22:30] <Gibbs> silvian: Ah, I see. I did reboot the whole server after update though.
[22:30] <Skip> new here, just trying out hex
[22:30] <Gibbs> Thanks for all your help guys, I'll try to figure something out.
[22:30] <silvian> Gibbs: yeah maybe upgrading to latest Ubuntu 16.04 LTS might give you access to latest apache/php but again be mindful if you're running old code/framework that could have other impact on backwards compatibility/support. You'll have to check the php support pages and release docs to see.
[22:30] <Gibbs> Thanks silvian
[22:30] <Skip> what server u using gibbs
[22:31] <silvian> Gibbs: You're welcome :)
[22:31] <Gibbs> Skip: Ubuntu 12.04.5 LTS
[22:31] <Skip> im on 14.04
[22:31] <Skip> lts
[22:32] <Skip> studying fir lfCS
[22:32] <Gibbs> Silvian: Yeah I'm afraid it will wreck my code. Seems more logical at this point to keep this release.
[22:32] <Skip> yeah
[22:32] <silvian> too right :)
[22:32] <Gibbs> Ok, cheers guys. Maybe I'll be back someday and let you know how it went.
[22:32] <Skip> anybody here taken that test
[22:34] <silvian> cool :)
[22:40] <Surfer2010> Is there a ubuntu picture server which can write tags to the file itself instead of writing it to a database?
[22:41] <tux_> has anybody already seen this issue? Fresh Trusty, network manager shows only WEP encryption ?
[22:41] <k1l> tux_: is it a very old wifi card?
[22:42] <dax> if the card supports wpa, my next guess would be broken wpa_supplicant install/integration
[22:42] <tux_> it's old, a turion64 laptop .. it's back from 2010 ..
[22:42] <dax> no idea how to diagnose it tho
[22:43] <LukeLR> but it should support wpa if it's from 2010
[22:43] <tux_> not that old tough
[22:43] <LukeLR> especially if you have used wpa on it before
[22:43] <LukeLR> maybe you should re-install wpa_supplicant
[22:43] <tux_> its a fresh install running updates now.. lets see if once done, it fixes
[22:44] <k1l> tux_: can you show the line in lspci that is that wifi card?
[22:48] <tux_> ethernet controller: Qualcomm Atheros ar242x / ar542x Wireless network adapter (pci-express) (rev 01)
[22:52] <Grorco> anyone know how to share a file from a ubuntu computer setup as a wireless ap?
[22:52] <Om4rSinC4ra> people join and quit....  nothing else.
[22:53] <k1l> tux_: you can run "nm-tool" and see what wireless properties the hardware and driver offer
[22:53] <k1l> !quietirc | Om4rSinC4ra
[22:55] <gde33> how configure ubuntu to focus applications when things are send there?
[22:56] <gde33> like if I open an url/torrent/video/textfile etc I would want to be looking at it
[23:16] <tux_> Grorco, what kind of share? File share, I use samba ... media stream, can't remember the name I was using, but there's lots of options
[23:17] <tux_> minidlna, that's what I used to use
[23:24] <menno> hi guys
[23:24] <menno>  find /STORAGE2/TV -print -type f -mtime +2 -delete | grep -i '.*[.]torrent'
[23:24] <menno> would this delete two days old torrent files or more? :D
[23:24] <dax> no, it would delete every file older than 2 days in that directory
[23:24] <menno> oh fuck
[23:25] <dax> quite
[23:25] <menno> how should the command be?
[23:25] <dax> you probably want the -name or -iname tests for find, see man find
[23:34] <Bashing-om> menno: Great tutorial on find: http://mywiki.wooledge.org/UsingFind .
[23:37] <menno> @dax also in subdirs?
[23:37] <menno>  find /STORAGE2/TV -print -type f -mtime +2 -delete | grep -i '.*[.]torrent'
[23:38] <nacc> menno: i think you are misapprehending what the grep is doing
[23:38] <nacc> menno: find will finish (including the delete) for each file found before outputing to the pipe
[23:39] <nacc> aiui
[23:39] <nacc> menno: what do you think the grep is doing?
[23:40] <menno> Hmm first idea was to select it, but I know it will only show a list , a selection of what is generated lets say by the find command
[23:40] <menno> so the find would return every file in that dir /STORAGE2/TV (no subdirs?) that are older than 2 days....
[23:41] <menno> and than grep would give me some verbose output of files that fill the requirement of *.torrent
[23:41] <menno> out of all the files that are deleted
[23:41] <menno> which isnt what I wanted :)
[23:41] <menno> I just try to grasp now
[23:41] <menno> what I deleted....
[23:42] <nacc> menno: find will recurse the path you provide, so it does include subdirs
[23:42] <menno> so i deleted quite some stuff....
[23:42] <menno> I did break it off by a ctrl c
[23:42] <menno> but still
[23:43] <menno> all files in subdirs were aged >2 days so
[23:43] <nacc> menno: it's hard to say, you deleted anything htat could be found under /STORAGE/TV that was 2 days old or more
[23:43] <menno> but not folders right?
[23:43] <menno> I did give it a -type f
[23:43] <nacc> menno: yes, any file, sorry
[23:43] <menno> ?
[23:43] <menno> so to see what I deleted
[23:43] <menno> I still see empty dirs...?
[23:43] <nacc> menno: um, how can you see what you deleted?
[23:44] <nacc> menno: you deleted it
[23:44] <menno> not the dirs...
[23:44] <menno> so i see empty folders
[23:44] <menno> if I understand correctly
[23:44] <nacc> do you see empty folders? that doesn't seem like a question for me?
[23:45] <nacc> menno: you won't be able to see what was deleted with a find command using a find command, as the files are now deleted.
[23:45] <menno> I know but since I used -type f
[23:45] <menno> I haven deleted any folder
[23:45] <menno> just its contents in files aged >2 days
[23:46] <menno> So lets say I had / STORAGE2/TV/LALA/thisfileisolderhtan2.days
[23:46] <menno> I wouldnt be able to find traces of /thisfileisolderthan2.days
[23:46] <menno> but I would still see the folder /STORAGE2/TV/LALA
[23:47] <nacc> menno: agreed.
[23:47] <menno> yup
[23:48] <menno> i got it
[23:48] <menno> I did a ls -ltr
[23:48] <menno> and
[23:48] <menno> drwxrwxrwx  2 root root  4096 Sep  9 01:07 Welcome.to.Rio
[23:48] <menno> I lost a great docu
[23:48] <menno> but thats it !
[23:48] <menno> thank god
[23:49] <menno> what do you think about this try
[23:49] <menno> find /STORAGE2/TV/*/*/ -name *.torrent -mtime +2 -type f -delete
[23:49] <menno> hope this fixes my previous error :D
[23:49] <nacc> i would suggest you stop passing -delete until you know you are only `find`'ing the files you care about
[23:49] <Grorco> tux_, samba doesn't work :( I'm not sure if its because I'm using the laptop as an ap or what
[23:50] <linuxperia> Hi all. I have xenial ubuntu bootstraped os and every time i try to use nmcli network manager to establish a connection my dns somehow is not working or better not changing to my desired dns name servers aka 8.8.8.8 no mater what i do in /etc/network/interfaces /etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf or /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf nothing changes the dns servers from 127.0.1.1 to 8.8.8.8  I kindly ask anyone to please help me with this very str
[23:50] <linuxperia> ange dns problem everytime i use nmcli to establish a connection! thank you in advance for any help!
[23:59] <Jordan_U> linuxperia: Having your DNS server set to 127.0.1.1 just means that you're using dnsmasq, which is itself likely correctly using 8.8.8.8.
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