[04:42] <fishcooker> is 2x2 desktop possible on lubuntu?
[04:43] <tsimonq2> fishcooker: 2x2 in what way?
[04:43] <tsimonq2> pixels?
[04:44] <fishcooker> 2 rows 2 columns
[04:44] <fishcooker> here 1x4 columns
[04:44] <tsimonq2> I'm not sure what unit we're talking about here
[04:44] <tsimonq2> desktop icons?
[04:45] <fishcooker> workspace rather than desktop i think should i http://superuser.com/questions/347528/openbox-make-4-desktops-2x2
[05:35] <lynorian> fishcooker, I don't think so unless you write your own panel plugin or something
[13:29] <Oglien> Hi
[13:30] <Oglien> i got an issue with my new install of lubuntu
[13:31] <Oglien> Abiword twinkle, it is hard to look at it and work with it
[13:39] <Oglien> anyone ?
[13:40] <leszek> Oglien: not sure what you mean. Do you have a screenshot if its a graphical issue
[13:44] <Oglien> it does not appear on screenshot, but it's like abiword is too weak to refresh the view when i hit a letter
[13:47] <leszek> Oglien: and the issue only appears in Abiword and no other application (so isn't a general graphiccard/driver issue ?)
[13:49] <Oglien> firefox is ok, i think it's just abiword. I tried to uninstall and install it, it's the same
[13:50] <leszek> Oglien: but isn't the famous flickering of the borders of the page ? Or is it this ?
[13:51] <leszek> Oglien: to make sure that it isn't this issue try starting abiword with GTK_THEME=Adwaita abiword and see if it works better
[13:51] <leszek> If it is then its the famous flickering theming issue
[13:52] <Oglien> yes it's the border of the page (i'm not sure that i understand all Usay, i don't gave a good english
[14:00] <Oglien> how do we solve this issue ?
[14:09] <leszek> Oglien: you need to start abiword with the command GTK_THEME=Adwaita abiword everytime
[14:09] <leszek> so go to your /usr/share/applications/abiword.desktop file and change the exec line not only to execute abiword but  GTK_THEME=Adwaita abiword and save that file (needs root rights /sudo to modify this file)
[14:29] <Oglien> ok,
[14:30] <Oglien> leszek: what do i have to write after "exec=" ?
[14:30] <leszek> GTK_THEME=Adwaita abiword
[14:33] <barnseybscuk> Currently I am using Ubuntu 16.04, just wondering if anyone thinks lubuntu is better.
[14:38] <Oglien> leszek: I don't understand, with "exec=gtk_theme=adwaita abiword" it does not work
[14:41] <leszek> Oglien: exec="GTK_THEME=Adwaita abiword" with quotation marks please and case sensitive
[14:41] <Oglien> ok
[14:42] <Oglien> still no...
[14:42] <leszek> what error message ?
[14:42] <Oglien> it's in french, i try to translate : Error : Desktop entry fil invalid
[14:49] <Oglien> leszek: i don't know if that help
[14:57] <leszek> hmm... then lets do it this way create a new file in /usr/bin called abiword.sh (as root) and enter in it
[14:57] <leszek> GTK_THEME=Adwaita abiword $*
[14:57] <leszek> save the file and make it executable
[14:57] <leszek> replace the exec line with
[14:57] <leszek> exec=abiword.sh
[14:57] <leszek> and save that file aswell
[15:01] <Oglien> \o/
[15:01] <Oglien> It works !!!!
[15:01] <Oglien> leszek: you're my god ! ^
[15:01] <Oglien> ^^
[15:01] <leszek> :)
[15:09] <Oglien> leszek: Maybe U could help me with theprinter now... ^^
[15:10] <Oglien> I have a network printer, i can't install with the same driver that works on my other pc on ubuntu, it does'nt work, it says "filter failed"
[15:13] <leszek> Oglien: which printer model ?
[15:14] <Oglien> canon ir adv c2220
[15:14] <leszek> hmm... did you choose the correct driver ? Is foomatic-db installed ?
[15:16] <Oglien> i don't know for foomatic-db, i have cuips!? i think it's the correct driver, when i try another one and i print i got "if you can read this, you are using wrong driver for your printer"
[15:17] <leszek> Try installing foomatic-db it provides some other printer drivers aswell. And make sure to have cups-filters installed.
[15:17] <Oglien> ok i try that
[15:17] <leszek> Usually I don't use network printers but plug them via usb which 99 times out of 100 works plug and play
[15:18] <Oglien> yes, but, i work in a school, so we have lot of pc, so i don't have choice !
[15:26] <Oglien> leszek: nothing works
[15:31] <Oglien> and cups-filters is up to date
[15:45] <Oglien> hell yeah i did it !!!!
[15:45] <Oglien> thx U leszek
[15:49] <leszek> :)
[18:10] <sgo11> hi, are icons of plugin type "dhcpcdui", "bluetooth", "volumealsa" in lxpanel hardcoded somewhere? how can I find which image files they are using? thanks.
[18:14] <wxl> you might want to review the lxde wiki on this subject, sgo11. http://wiki.lxde.org/en/LXPanel
[18:14] <sgo11> wxl, I read it. no information about my question. thanks.
[18:14] <wxl> sure there is
[18:15] <sgo11> wxl, really? which part? let me read again... I read that page more than 10 times...
[18:15] <sgo11> roughly only.
[18:16] <wxl> http://wiki.lxde.org/en/LXPanel#Panels
[18:17] <wxl> any icons used in lxpanel are defined by the icons package
[18:17] <wxl> !info lubuntu-lxpanel-icons
[18:17] <wxl> you could loook at file locations there
[18:17] <wxl> here's more in theming http://wiki.lxde.org/en/LXPanel_Theming
[18:27] <sgo11> wxl, I read them. maybe I am too stupid. I still don't get which image files are using for my input method, network, volumealsa. It's easy to find .desktop icons. it's easy to find icons in the launchbar. but I can't find icons in the right side of the lxpanel. I don't know how to call them, maybe indicators?
[18:29] <wxl> sgo11: consult http://wiki.lxde.org/en/LXPanel_Theming
[18:29] <wxl> let me explain for you
[18:29] <wxl> (not trying to give you the RTFM treatment)
[18:29] <wxl> the key is:
[18:29] <wxl> Themes are associated with profiles, so they must be located in the used profile directory. They're searched in the locations set in the environment variables $XDG_CONFIG_HOME first, and then (from left to right) in $XDG_CONFIG_DIRS
[18:30] <wxl> $XDG_CONFIG_HOME is usually ~/.config
[18:30] <wxl> $XDG_CONFIG_DIRS is usually /etc/xdg
[18:31] <wxl> so if we look at lxpanel in both of those we should find the panels and configuration files
[18:31] <sgo11> i checked .config/lxpanel files. I checked my gtk-2.0/gtkrc file.
[18:32] <wxl> since ~/.config/lxpanel is pretty much empty, that leaves us to look at /etc/xdg
[18:33] <sgo11> wxl, the only place I haven't checked is /etc/xdg. I am checking them now.
[18:34] <wxl> you'll see some pointing to /usr/share/lxpanel/images in there
[18:34] <wxl> and if you look at the list of files for lubuntu-lxpanel-icons, you'll see that's where they're getting installed to
[18:37] <sgo11> wxl, thanks for your help. but I kinda give up. I found nothing related to my input method icon, network icon, volumealsa icon. no config file is defining them. no icons are the same as the ones shown in my lxpanel. I am getting crazy to find those icons in one week already.
[18:38] <wxl> sgo11: in that case, they're probably hardcoded into the plugin itself :/
[18:38] <sgo11> wxl, if that is the case, which source file I can read? I can read .c files. but I don't know which files to read. thanks.
[18:39] <wxl> this may be instructive, sgo11 http://wiki.lxde.org/en/How_to_write_plugins_for_LXPanel
[18:41] <sgo11> wxl, thanks. I will try to read those source files.
[18:42] <wxl> sgo11: https://git.lxde.org/gitweb/?p=debian/lxpanel.git;a=blob;f=plugins/volumealsa/volumealsa.c;h=5683be10cc7ae6b2405125c84346d2972e2b651c;hb=HEAD
[18:43] <wxl> sgo11: i think this is the input manager https://git.lxde.org/gitweb/?p=debian/lxpanel.git;a=tree;f=plugins/xkb;h=61d3438364b00475e8077377e62cbc2dbd63a607;hb=HEAD
[18:44] <sgo11> wxl, thanks a lot. I am checking them now.
[18:44] <wxl> you'll have to try netstat or netstatus for networking https://git.lxde.org/gitweb/?p=debian/lxpanel.git;a=tree;f=plugins;hb=HEAD
[18:46] <wxl> sgo11: here's the downstream code in ubuntu https://code.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lxpanel
[18:47] <sgo11> wxl, thanks.
[18:49] <wxl> sgo11: np. sorry i don't have the direct answer for you. you might try the artwork team https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-art
[18:50] <wxl> sgo11: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Documentation also *MAY* help
[18:51] <sgo11> wxl, ok. thanks a lot for your help. :)
[19:10] <sgo11> ok. I figured out my input method icons are using /usr/share/fcitx/skin/ .... it's not using any lxpanel config or gtkrc config files.
[19:28] <wxl> sgo11: i guess that makes sense considering that *IS* the input manager. it's likely that this just uses xdg standards.
[19:30] <sgo11> wxl, thanks.  I thought input method was the same as type volumealsa etc.. I just realized that it was tray type, so they are using their own skin.
[19:32] <wxl> sgo11: i'm glad i'm not too picky about the way things look. that stuff would drive me crazy XD
[19:33] <sgo11> wxl, ^_^