[06:13] <splashing> 16.10 use linux kernel 4.7
[06:13] <splashing> ???
[18:19] <nedstark> i see cinnamon works ok, is there every going to be a cinnamon iso?
[18:41] <dax> if someone starts a cinnamon flavor, which they have yet to do
[18:42] <dax> if they don't... no
[18:56] <nedstark> oh, i see now, the maintainers of ubuntu's cinnamon packages are debian people
[20:35] <zzarr> hello! a quick question, will Mir/Unity8 be default on 16.10?
[20:42] <k1l_> no
[20:44] <zzarr> will Mir/Unity8 be usable (have full support for X-applications)?
[20:47] <k1l_> they are working on it with libertine
[20:48] <zzarr> I really hope they fix so that environments like Steam works nice in libertine
[20:49] <ikonia> I suspect that will be one of the failure areas
[20:49] <k1l_> uh steam
[20:49] <ikonia> more so when you look at how little is used as a native linux game
[20:49] <zzarr> does libertine support multi-window applications now?
[20:49] <k1l_> steam is a pain on old xorg. i dont see hope running it on a new xserver in a sandbox for old xserver doing its old 32bit windows stuff.
[20:51] <zzarr> so basically Valve should redesign Steam and make a Mir version of it
[20:51] <k1l_> the hope is, that all the games stuff will run natively on mir/wayland with proper driver support.
[20:51] <zzarr> I hope that happenes
[20:51] <zzarr> yea
[20:52] <k1l_> i guess that will happen one year after the year of the linux desktop ;p
[20:54] <ikonia> no-one will make mir versions
[20:54] <ikonia> people are focused on wayland, other than canonical
[20:55] <zzarr> I havent launched Mir/Unity8 in a while on my computer, it was few weeks ago... back then I noticed that the apps scope was gone
[20:55] <zzarr> is it back in some form if I launch it now?
[20:57] <k1l_> zzarr: just test it. unity8/mir is already in use on smartphones and tablets running ubuntu-touch.
[20:58] <k1l_> most times it depends on your video drivers. intel cards will work.
[20:58] <zzarr> I have had a MX4 for a bit over a year :)
[20:58] <zzarr> I have an Intel card
[21:10] <zzarr> bye