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mate|69793hi, i can't add back the clock on the panel since I updated today00:02
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kul9194943270hello there!01:33
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* johnc4510 asks if anyone else lost their panel calendar/clock with last set of updates that included libmateweather-common & libmateweather1 ?02:22
johnc4510happened to both my machines02:22
MateyBot<lukefromdc> 1JTAA7JPD: Getting data back from any formerly bootable device starts with mounting it from another running system. If it won't mount you just found out why it won't boot. In that case make a backup image of the whole device with "dd" first, that's because fixing or trying to fix the filesystem with fsck can eat some or even most of the data if it03:09
MateyBotfails. Having done so you can try to repair the filesystem with fsck. if fsck fails and you get pages and pages of scrolling text, use the backup you made of the device to recover data from it using tools like foremost and photorec, You'd me amazed what you get back, though some long files like video files that have been fragmented may come back in segments of03:09
MateyBotwhich only those attached to the file headers can still be opened.  I once recovered a whole bunch of video that way after accidently deleting the second half of a load of video files (1st half had been copied twice and the second not at all...), and got enough back to finish the edited video in question.03:09
MateyBot<lukefromdc> 1JTAA7JPD: If you get lucky and that unbootable file system is still mountable, just copy everything you want from it after mounting. If the OS is the problem is the fs is good, you have a good storage disk but no device is ever trustworthy with the only copy of anything important03:11
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pra23Hi I am new to linux, I am using ubuntu-mate 16.04 from last June, I always keep my system updated, Last night I updated few applications, after a reboot, the Clock/Calender Applet on my top  panel disappeared. I tried to add the applet manually (by right clicking on the panel and selecting 'add to panel'), But it did not work on both top and bottom panel.04:40
pra23these are the apps I updated last night.04:41
pra23libappstream-glib8:amd64 (0.5.13-1ubuntu2, 0.5.13-1ubuntu3), libmateweather-common:amd64 (1.14.1-1~xenial1.1, 1.14.3-1~xenial1.0), libmateweather1:amd64 (1.14.1-1~xenial1.1, 1.14.3-1~xenial1.0), accountsservice:amd64 (0.6.40-2ubuntu11.1, 0.6.40-2ubuntu11.2), libaccountsservice0:amd64 (0.6.40-2ubuntu11.1, 0.6.40-2ubuntu11.2)04:41
olscumpypra23: try switching layouts in mate-tweak-tool04:41
olscumpyit's in control center, or run it by name with alt f204:42
olscumpysorry, just mate-tweak04:42
pra23I tried different lay-outs. even switched the windows managers. did not work.04:43
olscumpyhmm, hang out and perhaps someone more experienced will have an idea. that's an odd issue and I've not seen anything like that04:44
pra23thanks man for trying.04:45
olscumpyo704:45
olscumpyhaha you know what... my irc client has a clock built in to one of its bars04:46
olscumpyyou could try out weechat04:46
olscumpyit's very texty, terminal based, though04:46
olscumpypra23: did you try in #ubuntu ? mate is an official flavour, so they can help you there too04:53
pra23@olscumpy No, lets try that.04:55
alkisgpra23: does it happen in the guest session? i.e. is it a user issue, or a system issue?04:57
pra23I just log into the guest account. same thing there. no clock applet.05:01
alkisgpra23: then you need to restore the correct package versions05:02
alkisgHow did you update the applets, from some ppa?05:02
pra23yeah.It showed on my update manager.05:04
alkisgUse ppa-purge to remove the ppa then05:04
alkisgAnd, don't trust all PPAs in the future :)05:05
alkisg libmateweather 1.12.1-105:05
alkisgThat's what xenial has by default05:06
johnc4510alkisg: i just updated from cli with apt-get..i have no ppa's except libreoffice05:23
alkisgjohnc4510: who are you? :)05:24
alkisgI was talking to pra23...05:24
johnc4510sorry...if you look above alkisg you will see i posted this first05:24
alkisgAh, ok, didn't see that05:25
johnc4510np05:25
alkisgjohnc4510: what's the output of this command? apt policy libmateweather-common | nc termbin.com 999905:25
johnc4510hang on05:25
johnc4510WARNING: apt does not have a stable CLI interface. Use with caution in scripts.05:27
johnc4510http://termbin.com/kqwt05:27
alkisgjohnc4510: see that ppa there?05:27
alkisgThat's the problem05:27
johnc4510the http is a ppa?05:27
pra23@alkisg I already my desktop environment to mate 1.14.1 via official mate-xenial ppa, if i purge the ppa, my mate-desktop would automaticaaly fallback to 1.12  ??05:28
alkisgapt policy libmateweather-common05:28
alkisglibmateweather-common:  Installed: 1.12.1-1  Candidate: 1.12.1-105:28
alkisg  Version table:05:28
alkisg *** 1.12.1-1 50005:28
alkisg        500 http://gr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial/universe i386 Packages05:28
alkisg        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status05:28
pra23*updated05:28
alkisgpra23: no, it won't, you need ppa-purge for that05:28
alkisgflexiondotorg: did you notice that regression ^ ?05:28
pra23okay let's try that.05:28
alkisgpra23: wait for a while in case flexiondotorg answers05:29
johnc4510alkisg: i don't recognize that ppa...lookimg05:29
alkisgI think he's the one maintaining it, he might send an update to fix it05:29
alkisgHe might wake up in a few hours though, not immediately05:29
pra23okay05:29
alkisgIn general, for more stable systems, I think it's best to only have the ubuntu sources active05:30
alkisgjohnc4510: this is the ppa that you have: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mate-dev/+archive/ubuntu/xenial-mate05:30
alkisgI.e. it's the "official" ppa to get mate 1.14 in ubuntu 16.0405:31
johnc4510alkisg: k...so i need to take it out?05:31
alkisgBut PPAs don't go through the normal ubuntu channels, so they have no regression testing, SRUs etc05:31
alkisgNormally I would say yes, but in this case, the PPA maintainer is also a mate developer05:31
alkisg...so you could wait a bit in case flexiondotorg fixes it05:31
johnc4510ah..k..so wait around and see...np...05:32
alkisgI guess he'll send an update to fix it when he sees the issue05:32
johnc4510that's what i figured05:33
johnc4510:)05:33
johnc4510alkisg: sorry i jumped in back there05:33
alkisgjohnc4510: no problem at all; I just didn't realize that you had the same issue05:33
johnc4510i had been checking back every so often05:33
johnc4510cool05:34
johnc4510ah..i bet that ppa is from upgrading to mate 1.14.105:40
johnc4510i usually don't do that, but i was having troubles with the nm-applet crashing05:42
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pra23I just got update libmateweather-common1.14.3~1. Now every thing is normal.09:44
danboidflexiondotorg: Are you 'ere?11:03
danboidgryphon: Good band!11:03
danboidflexiondotorg: I have a suggestion to improve your wonder distro11:04
danboidI thought I might try and get some rt feedback before I chuck it on yr forum instead11:05
mate|27496hello11:11
mate|27496is there any body ere ,11:11
mate|27496here*11:11
alkisg!ask11:11
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience11:11
mate|27496i really need some help11:11
devin_I am trying to run Steam on my system but it won't start. I am running AMD and I was wondering why it isn't working.11:12
mate|27496i just install ubunto 16.04 so  can i know if there are any thing can help me to install ts 3 on it ,11:12
mate|27496i just install ubunto 16.04 so  can i know if there are any thing can help me to install ts 3 on it , sOME HELP PLZ ,11:12
alkisgWhat is ts? teamspeak?11:13
danboidmate|27496: Go mumble!11:14
flexiondotorgdanboid, o/11:26
danboidflexiondotorg: Hi11:30
olscumpyhow would I go about figuring which package(s) Mint uses to hibernate, so that I can start using those in Ubuntu? attempting to hibernate does weird and wrong things on here since switching11:30
flexiondotorgolscumpy, Search the Ubuntu wiki, it is documented there.11:31
danboidflexiondotorg: I've noticed both MInt and Atergos MATE have a menu search feature integrated by default. How about adding this into Ubuntu MATE?11:31
flexiondotorgdanboid, Find MATE Tweak, enable the advanced menu :-)11:31
flexiondotorgMATE Tweak is installed be default in Ubuntu MATE.11:32
olscumpy^ mate-tweak is amazing, yes11:32
danboidflexiondotorg: Oh great! I didn't spot that! Why is it not enabled by default? Is it a bit expensive, memory wise or smt?11:32
flexiondotorgdanboid, Because the default Ubuntu MATE can run on anything.11:33
flexiondotorgBut MATE Tweak can turn on what you like, to suit your work flow and hardware.11:33
danboidDid I hear you say VLC is being dropped for mpv? I'd def. advocate that11:34
olscumpyah, "encrypted swap" is probably the problem. I still wonder if maybe I can copy over the good way that mint handled hibernation11:38
alkisgflexiondotorg: sudo xdg-mime query default text/plain ==> checks /etc/gnome/defaults.list and returns "gedit.desktop". Isn't there some proper way to make it return "pluma.desktop"?11:47
flexiondotorgxdg stuff (largely) don't know about MATE :-(11:48
alkisgFor users, it checks the XDG* variables and properly picks pluma, but not for root, where those vars aren't there11:48
flexiondotorgdanboid, I'm considering switching from VLC to gnome-mpv.11:49
alkisgOn the other hand, xfce and lxde don't have such issues...11:49
alkisgxdg-mime does have code for mate...11:49
milanhi all12:01
milanjust installed 16.0412:01
milandoes anyone know how I can change the color of the prompt in tilda?12:01
milananyone?12:07
m4bshi13:35
m4bsanyone/13:36
m4bs?13:36
gtm110heloo13:40
gtm110hello13:40
m4bshello..13:42
gtm110hello14:10
Akulihello gtm11014:11
gtm110hi Akuli14:12
gtm110chat in here ?14:12
Akuliyes14:13
gtm110Akuli: where u from ?14:14
gtm110hello14:22
johnc4510thx for the libmateweather fixes...btw, this mate release is great and has brought me back to ubuntu14:59
ubuntu-mateHi. Trying to install ubuntu mate. Getting something like, "You need 8.6 GB disk space to install ubuntu mate. This system has 0 b"15:06
ouroumovHi ubuntu-mate15:07
ouroumovubuntu-mate, what's the hardware like? You can get a good spec list by opening the terminal using CTRL+ALT+T and then typing: inxi -AMCDSNGI15:08
ouroumovPlease post output to pastebin.com15:08
ouroumovOr on: https://paste.debian.net/15:08
Akulior:   inxi -AMCDSNGI | netcat termbin.com 999915:10
ubuntu-mateThanks - even I the antithesis of a code warrior can see amajor problem in the output. HDD~NA( - ). This is where I hope you tell me I have it all wrong.15:12
Akulilsblk | netcat termbin.com 999915:12
ubuntu-mateoutput at paste.debian.net/81608215:18
ouroumovubuntu-mate, it's a dash -AMC...15:22
ouroumovNot an underscore15:22
ouroumovubuntu-mate, please also provide the output of the lsblk command Akuli gave you.15:23
Akulihmm :D15:24
ouroumovcrap15:24
ubuntu-mateHi. Back again. Got disconnected and have missed any replies since 15:18:50. Have checked that there is a HDD in place.15:37
ubuntu-mateOutput at output at paste.debian.net/81608215:37
Akuli<ouroumov> ubuntu-mate, it's a dash -AMC...15:52
Akuli<ouroumov> Not an underscore15:52
ouroumovubuntu-mate, please also provide the output of: lsblk | netcat termbin.com 999915:53
ubuntu-matethanks ouroumove:  paste.debian.net/81609115:56
Akulithere we  go, its not detecting your hard drive. do you have windows 10 installed on it?15:59
ubuntu-mateProbably not - unsure - probably windows 8 (?)  the HDD was "wiped" using an unknown method after the computer was hacked.16:06
ubuntu-matenot looking to dual boot.16:06
ouroumovubuntu-mate, if you start gparted from the live session, does it see the internal drive?16:09
Akuliif lsblk doesn't see it its basically not going to be seen16:09
ouroumovAlso, I hope the "unknown method" wasn't a powerful magnet.16:09
Akuliubuntu-mate, what does this say?   echo /dev/sd*16:10
ubuntu-mateoutput is /dev/sd*16:13
ouroumovnah16:15
ouroumovWell damn16:16
ouroumovAny chance the drive was deactivated in the BIOS?16:16
ubuntu-mate@ouroumov gparted does not see the internal drive. thanks for your help people. will check bios for deactivation. then see if windows system restore actually goes anywhere. bye for now.16:17
ouroumovI'm in the process of installing Fedora 24, never did so before.16:20
ouroumovBoy is it painful.16:20
ouroumovI see the Ubuntu installer in a new light16:20
ouroumovAlso awesomely the system updater showed errors when I tried to do the update after install, had to switch to terminal16:21
ouroumovWeirdly, terminal does not open when one hits "CTRL+ALT+T"16:21
ouroumovI found a mouse to go hit the terminal icon16:22
Akulii guess you can set up a custom keyboard shortcut16:25
Akuliis fedora's installed text-based or gui?16:25
ouroumovgui16:25
Akuliawful gui sounds indeed awful...16:26
ubuntu-mate_hi16:54
Akulihi ubuntu-mate_16:54
ubuntu-mate_how can change my name16:55
dudemanin chat?17:23
dudemanin chat /nick *new nicname*17:24
SonikkuAmericadudeman: That person is gone, bro :(17:25
dudemanin mate: system>administration>users & groups>next to your username press change17:25
dudemanoh whoops17:25
dudemanlol17:25
dudemanhow goes it?17:26
dudemanwhat is this desktop.TS4WNY?17:46
dudemani created a launcher on my desktop and it added this in addition to the launcher17:46
ma__rchey, guys… what's the benefit of using "apt" over "apt-get"? they do the same thing, right?20:42
alkisgNewer, unified stuff20:44
alkisgInstead of apt-cache and apt-get...20:44
ma__rcalright... but using apt-get, apt-cache etc does the same as "apt install", "apt find", and so on, right?20:45
ma__rcstill need to adopt the new mindset and installed some stuff the "old" way :D20:46
alkisgI think in some cases the parameters are not *exactly* equivalent20:47
alkisgLike, apt-get dist-upgrade vs apt full-upgrade20:47
alkisgor apt-get upgrade vs apt upgrade20:47
ma__rcokay, well... i re-migrated to ubuntu just a few minutes ago and the first thing i did was "apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade" – returned with no errors whatsoever20:49
mate|90852hi, there are no videos on youtube to add shortcutf for 3rd party software21:09
mate|90852i was wondering if anyone could help me21:09
Skywalkerhey23:03
Skywalkerdead in here tonight23:04
rahtgazor busy23:05
dudemantrue23:25
mate|79989problema con caja en la ultima actualizacion23:34

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