[00:02] <mate|69793> hi, i can't add back the clock on the panel since I updated today
[01:33] <kul9194943270> hello there!
[01:43] <kul9194943270> have a nice day
[02:22]  * johnc4510 asks if anyone else lost their panel calendar/clock with last set of updates that included libmateweather-common & libmateweather1 ?
[02:22] <johnc4510> happened to both my machines
 1JTAA7JPD: Getting data back from any formerly bootable device starts with mounting it from another running system. If it won't mount you just found out why it won't boot. In that case make a backup image of the whole device with "dd" first, that's because fixing or trying to fix the filesystem with fsck can eat some or even most of the data if it
[03:09] <MateyBot> fails. Having done so you can try to repair the filesystem with fsck. if fsck fails and you get pages and pages of scrolling text, use the backup you made of the device to recover data from it using tools like foremost and photorec, You'd me amazed what you get back, though some long files like video files that have been fragmented may come back in segments of
[03:09] <MateyBot> which only those attached to the file headers can still be opened.  I once recovered a whole bunch of video that way after accidently deleting the second half of a load of video files (1st half had been copied twice and the second not at all...), and got enough back to finish the edited video in question.
 1JTAA7JPD: If you get lucky and that unbootable file system is still mountable, just copy everything you want from it after mounting. If the OS is the problem is the fs is good, you have a good storage disk but no device is ever trustworthy with the only copy of anything important
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[04:40] <pra23> Hi I am new to linux, I am using ubuntu-mate 16.04 from last June, I always keep my system updated, Last night I updated few applications, after a reboot, the Clock/Calender Applet on my top  panel disappeared. I tried to add the applet manually (by right clicking on the panel and selecting 'add to panel'), But it did not work on both top and bottom panel.
[04:41] <pra23> these are the apps I updated last night.
[04:41] <pra23> libappstream-glib8:amd64 (0.5.13-1ubuntu2, 0.5.13-1ubuntu3), libmateweather-common:amd64 (1.14.1-1~xenial1.1, 1.14.3-1~xenial1.0), libmateweather1:amd64 (1.14.1-1~xenial1.1, 1.14.3-1~xenial1.0), accountsservice:amd64 (0.6.40-2ubuntu11.1, 0.6.40-2ubuntu11.2), libaccountsservice0:amd64 (0.6.40-2ubuntu11.1, 0.6.40-2ubuntu11.2)
[04:41] <olscumpy> pra23: try switching layouts in mate-tweak-tool
[04:42] <olscumpy> it's in control center, or run it by name with alt f2
[04:42] <olscumpy> sorry, just mate-tweak
[04:43] <pra23> I tried different lay-outs. even switched the windows managers. did not work.
[04:44] <olscumpy> hmm, hang out and perhaps someone more experienced will have an idea. that's an odd issue and I've not seen anything like that
[04:45] <pra23> thanks man for trying.
[04:45] <olscumpy> o7
[04:46] <olscumpy> haha you know what... my irc client has a clock built in to one of its bars
[04:46] <olscumpy> you could try out weechat
[04:46] <olscumpy> it's very texty, terminal based, though
[04:53] <olscumpy> pra23: did you try in #ubuntu ? mate is an official flavour, so they can help you there too
[04:55] <pra23> @olscumpy No, lets try that.
[04:57] <alkisg> pra23: does it happen in the guest session? i.e. is it a user issue, or a system issue?
[05:01] <pra23> I just log into the guest account. same thing there. no clock applet.
[05:02] <alkisg> pra23: then you need to restore the correct package versions
[05:02] <alkisg> How did you update the applets, from some ppa?
[05:04] <pra23> yeah.It showed on my update manager.
[05:04] <alkisg> Use ppa-purge to remove the ppa then
[05:05] <alkisg> And, don't trust all PPAs in the future :)
[05:05] <alkisg>  libmateweather 1.12.1-1
[05:06] <alkisg> That's what xenial has by default
[05:23] <johnc4510> alkisg: i just updated from cli with apt-get..i have no ppa's except libreoffice
[05:24] <alkisg> johnc4510: who are you? :)
[05:24] <alkisg> I was talking to pra23...
[05:24] <johnc4510> sorry...if you look above alkisg you will see i posted this first
[05:25] <alkisg> Ah, ok, didn't see that
[05:25] <johnc4510> np
[05:25] <alkisg> johnc4510: what's the output of this command? apt policy libmateweather-common | nc termbin.com 9999
[05:25] <johnc4510> hang on
[05:27] <johnc4510> WARNING: apt does not have a stable CLI interface. Use with caution in scripts.
[05:27] <johnc4510> http://termbin.com/kqwt
[05:27] <alkisg> johnc4510: see that ppa there?
[05:27] <alkisg> That's the problem
[05:27] <johnc4510> the http is a ppa?
[05:28] <pra23> @alkisg I already my desktop environment to mate 1.14.1 via official mate-xenial ppa, if i purge the ppa, my mate-desktop would automaticaaly fallback to 1.12  ??
[05:28] <alkisg> apt policy libmateweather-common
[05:28] <alkisg> libmateweather-common:  Installed: 1.12.1-1  Candidate: 1.12.1-1
[05:28] <alkisg>   Version table:
[05:28] <alkisg>  *** 1.12.1-1 500
[05:28] <alkisg>         500 http://gr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial/universe i386 Packages
[05:28] <alkisg>         100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
[05:28] <pra23> *updated
[05:28] <alkisg> pra23: no, it won't, you need ppa-purge for that
[05:28] <alkisg> flexiondotorg: did you notice that regression ^ ?
[05:28] <pra23> okay let's try that.
[05:29] <alkisg> pra23: wait for a while in case flexiondotorg answers
[05:29] <johnc4510> alkisg: i don't recognize that ppa...lookimg
[05:29] <alkisg> I think he's the one maintaining it, he might send an update to fix it
[05:29] <alkisg> He might wake up in a few hours though, not immediately
[05:29] <pra23> okay
[05:30] <alkisg> In general, for more stable systems, I think it's best to only have the ubuntu sources active
[05:30] <alkisg> johnc4510: this is the ppa that you have: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mate-dev/+archive/ubuntu/xenial-mate
[05:31] <alkisg> I.e. it's the "official" ppa to get mate 1.14 in ubuntu 16.04
[05:31] <johnc4510> alkisg: k...so i need to take it out?
[05:31] <alkisg> But PPAs don't go through the normal ubuntu channels, so they have no regression testing, SRUs etc
[05:31] <alkisg> Normally I would say yes, but in this case, the PPA maintainer is also a mate developer
[05:31] <alkisg> ...so you could wait a bit in case flexiondotorg fixes it
[05:32] <johnc4510> ah..k..so wait around and see...np...
[05:32] <alkisg> I guess he'll send an update to fix it when he sees the issue
[05:33] <johnc4510> that's what i figured
[05:33] <johnc4510> :)
[05:33] <johnc4510> alkisg: sorry i jumped in back there
[05:33] <alkisg> johnc4510: no problem at all; I just didn't realize that you had the same issue
[05:33] <johnc4510> i had been checking back every so often
[05:34] <johnc4510> cool
[05:40] <johnc4510> ah..i bet that ppa is from upgrading to mate 1.14.1
[05:42] <johnc4510> i usually don't do that, but i was having troubles with the nm-applet crashing
[09:44] <pra23> I just got update libmateweather-common1.14.3~1. Now every thing is normal.
[11:03] <danboid> flexiondotorg: Are you 'ere?
[11:03] <danboid> gryphon: Good band!
[11:04] <danboid> flexiondotorg: I have a suggestion to improve your wonder distro
[11:05] <danboid> I thought I might try and get some rt feedback before I chuck it on yr forum instead
[11:11] <mate|27496> hello
[11:11] <mate|27496> is there any body ere ,
[11:11] <mate|27496> here*
[11:11] <alkisg> !ask
[11:11] <mate|27496> i really need some help
[11:12] <devin_> I am trying to run Steam on my system but it won't start. I am running AMD and I was wondering why it isn't working.
[11:12] <mate|27496> i just install ubunto 16.04 so  can i know if there are any thing can help me to install ts 3 on it ,
[11:12] <mate|27496> i just install ubunto 16.04 so  can i know if there are any thing can help me to install ts 3 on it , sOME HELP PLZ ,
[11:13] <alkisg> What is ts? teamspeak?
[11:14] <danboid> mate|27496: Go mumble!
[11:26] <flexiondotorg> danboid, o/
[11:30] <danboid> flexiondotorg: Hi
[11:30] <olscumpy> how would I go about figuring which package(s) Mint uses to hibernate, so that I can start using those in Ubuntu? attempting to hibernate does weird and wrong things on here since switching
[11:31] <flexiondotorg> olscumpy, Search the Ubuntu wiki, it is documented there.
[11:31] <danboid> flexiondotorg: I've noticed both MInt and Atergos MATE have a menu search feature integrated by default. How about adding this into Ubuntu MATE?
[11:31] <flexiondotorg> danboid, Find MATE Tweak, enable the advanced menu :-)
[11:32] <flexiondotorg> MATE Tweak is installed be default in Ubuntu MATE.
[11:32] <olscumpy> ^ mate-tweak is amazing, yes
[11:32] <danboid> flexiondotorg: Oh great! I didn't spot that! Why is it not enabled by default? Is it a bit expensive, memory wise or smt?
[11:33] <flexiondotorg> danboid, Because the default Ubuntu MATE can run on anything.
[11:33] <flexiondotorg> But MATE Tweak can turn on what you like, to suit your work flow and hardware.
[11:34] <danboid> Did I hear you say VLC is being dropped for mpv? I'd def. advocate that
[11:38] <olscumpy> ah, "encrypted swap" is probably the problem. I still wonder if maybe I can copy over the good way that mint handled hibernation
[11:47] <alkisg> flexiondotorg: sudo xdg-mime query default text/plain ==> checks /etc/gnome/defaults.list and returns "gedit.desktop". Isn't there some proper way to make it return "pluma.desktop"?
[11:48] <flexiondotorg> xdg stuff (largely) don't know about MATE :-(
[11:48] <alkisg> For users, it checks the XDG* variables and properly picks pluma, but not for root, where those vars aren't there
[11:49] <flexiondotorg> danboid, I'm considering switching from VLC to gnome-mpv.
[11:49] <alkisg> On the other hand, xfce and lxde don't have such issues...
[11:49] <alkisg> xdg-mime does have code for mate...
[12:01] <milan> hi all
[12:01] <milan> just installed 16.04
[12:01] <milan> does anyone know how I can change the color of the prompt in tilda?
[12:07] <milan> anyone?
[13:35] <m4bs> hi
[13:36] <m4bs> anyone/
[13:36] <m4bs> ?
[13:40] <gtm110> heloo
[13:40] <gtm110> hello
[13:42] <m4bs> hello..
[14:10] <gtm110> hello
[14:11] <Akuli> hello gtm110
[14:12] <gtm110> hi Akuli
[14:12] <gtm110> chat in here ?
[14:13] <Akuli> yes
[14:14] <gtm110> Akuli: where u from ?
[14:22] <gtm110> hello
[14:59] <johnc4510> thx for the libmateweather fixes...btw, this mate release is great and has brought me back to ubuntu
[15:06] <ubuntu-mate> Hi. Trying to install ubuntu mate. Getting something like, "You need 8.6 GB disk space to install ubuntu mate. This system has 0 b"
[15:07] <ouroumov> Hi ubuntu-mate
[15:08] <ouroumov> ubuntu-mate, what's the hardware like? You can get a good spec list by opening the terminal using CTRL+ALT+T and then typing: inxi -AMCDSNGI
[15:08] <ouroumov> Please post output to pastebin.com
[15:08] <ouroumov> Or on: https://paste.debian.net/
[15:10] <Akuli> or:   inxi -AMCDSNGI | netcat termbin.com 9999
[15:12] <ubuntu-mate> Thanks - even I the antithesis of a code warrior can see amajor problem in the output. HDD~NA( - ). This is where I hope you tell me I have it all wrong.
[15:12] <Akuli> lsblk | netcat termbin.com 9999
[15:18] <ubuntu-mate> output at paste.debian.net/816082
[15:22] <ouroumov> ubuntu-mate, it's a dash -AMC...
[15:22] <ouroumov> Not an underscore
[15:23] <ouroumov> ubuntu-mate, please also provide the output of the lsblk command Akuli gave you.
[15:24] <Akuli> hmm :D
[15:24] <ouroumov> crap
[15:37] <ubuntu-mate> Hi. Back again. Got disconnected and have missed any replies since 15:18:50. Have checked that there is a HDD in place.
[15:37] <ubuntu-mate> Output at output at paste.debian.net/816082
 ubuntu-mate, it's a dash -AMC...
 Not an underscore
[15:53] <ouroumov> ubuntu-mate, please also provide the output of: lsblk | netcat termbin.com 9999
[15:56] <ubuntu-mate> thanks ouroumove:  paste.debian.net/816091
[15:59] <Akuli> there we  go, its not detecting your hard drive. do you have windows 10 installed on it?
[16:06] <ubuntu-mate> Probably not - unsure - probably windows 8 (?)  the HDD was "wiped" using an unknown method after the computer was hacked.
[16:06] <ubuntu-mate> not looking to dual boot.
[16:09] <ouroumov> ubuntu-mate, if you start gparted from the live session, does it see the internal drive?
[16:09] <Akuli> if lsblk doesn't see it its basically not going to be seen
[16:09] <ouroumov> Also, I hope the "unknown method" wasn't a powerful magnet.
[16:10] <Akuli> ubuntu-mate, what does this say?   echo /dev/sd*
[16:13] <ubuntu-mate> output is /dev/sd*
[16:15] <ouroumov> nah
[16:16] <ouroumov> Well damn
[16:16] <ouroumov> Any chance the drive was deactivated in the BIOS?
[16:17] <ubuntu-mate> @ouroumov gparted does not see the internal drive. thanks for your help people. will check bios for deactivation. then see if windows system restore actually goes anywhere. bye for now.
[16:20] <ouroumov> I'm in the process of installing Fedora 24, never did so before.
[16:20] <ouroumov> Boy is it painful.
[16:20] <ouroumov> I see the Ubuntu installer in a new light
[16:21] <ouroumov> Also awesomely the system updater showed errors when I tried to do the update after install, had to switch to terminal
[16:21] <ouroumov> Weirdly, terminal does not open when one hits "CTRL+ALT+T"
[16:22] <ouroumov> I found a mouse to go hit the terminal icon
[16:25] <Akuli> i guess you can set up a custom keyboard shortcut
[16:25] <Akuli> is fedora's installed text-based or gui?
[16:25] <ouroumov> gui
[16:26] <Akuli> awful gui sounds indeed awful...
[16:54] <ubuntu-mate_> hi
[16:54] <Akuli> hi ubuntu-mate_
[16:55] <ubuntu-mate_> how can change my name
[17:23] <dudeman> in chat?
[17:24] <dudeman> in chat /nick *new nicname*
[17:25] <SonikkuAmerica> dudeman: That person is gone, bro :(
[17:25] <dudeman> in mate: system>administration>users & groups>next to your username press change
[17:25] <dudeman> oh whoops
[17:25] <dudeman> lol
[17:26] <dudeman> how goes it?
[17:46] <dudeman> what is this desktop.TS4WNY?
[17:46] <dudeman> i created a launcher on my desktop and it added this in addition to the launcher
[20:42] <ma__rc> hey, guys… what's the benefit of using "apt" over "apt-get"? they do the same thing, right?
[20:44] <alkisg> Newer, unified stuff
[20:44] <alkisg> Instead of apt-cache and apt-get...
[20:45] <ma__rc> alright... but using apt-get, apt-cache etc does the same as "apt install", "apt find", and so on, right?
[20:46] <ma__rc> still need to adopt the new mindset and installed some stuff the "old" way :D
[20:47] <alkisg> I think in some cases the parameters are not *exactly* equivalent
[20:47] <alkisg> Like, apt-get dist-upgrade vs apt full-upgrade
[20:47] <alkisg> or apt-get upgrade vs apt upgrade
[20:49] <ma__rc> okay, well... i re-migrated to ubuntu just a few minutes ago and the first thing i did was "apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade" – returned with no errors whatsoever
[21:09] <mate|90852> hi, there are no videos on youtube to add shortcutf for 3rd party software
[21:09] <mate|90852> i was wondering if anyone could help me
[23:03] <Skywalker> hey
[23:04] <Skywalker> dead in here tonight
[23:05] <rahtgaz> or busy
[23:25] <dudeman> true
[23:34] <mate|79989> problema con caja en la ultima actualizacion